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Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe

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and you're listening to Climbing in Heels

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for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration

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and of course fun. This

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week, I attended the Daily front Row Fashion

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Los Angeles Awards. It was the

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most beautiful evening honoring some of the best

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and brightest talent in the fashion industry.

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So I wanted to give you a little sneak peek inside

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of the event. There were some incredible

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looks and some of your favorite celebs

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were in attendance.

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So let's get right into it.

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Hello, Rachel zo, Hello,

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how has your week been.

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I'm very sleepy. I need to do I

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need to interview.

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A sleep specialist. I yeah,

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but.

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I'm just not going to do it. That's the thing.

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I'm going to get all the advice in the world. I know all

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the things you're not supposed to be on your phone. She

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is a shutdown any electronic for at least

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an hour before a bat even two hours.

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And there's like ritual.

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I mean, the only thing I do that tracks is

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I drink him and meal tea before bed. Yeah,

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but I saw the only good habit

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Casey this morning was like, you sound a

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little better today, did you sleep. I'm like one thirty.

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She's like on a Tuesday cool. I

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was like yeah, but the two nights before it was three

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thirty. I think until May thirteenth. I'm just this

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is my this is my jam. I'm just going to take

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what I can get.

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I would have like bloodshot. I speaking of like

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sounding, I don't look very good. My like allergy

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sinuses are like fully mid fully

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rearing.

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Their head, babe. I mean my kids

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have been sneezing my throat. I'm

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yeah, I didn't even.

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Go to Coachella or stagecoach.

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I feel like I've been in the desert.

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No, I know. I think everything La

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finally stopped raining every

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other day, and I think super

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thing went into bloom super bloom. Yeah,

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not into it and us allergy suffering.

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I'm into it because it's beautiful.

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Yeah, unless my roses are crashing

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right now and

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Roger's throat is okay.

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A few things that are going on before we jump into talking

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about the daily front Row

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Fashion Los Angeles Worse, which

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you attended on Sunday with you. Yes,

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You're a day you brought me as your plus

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one, which was so exciting. Something's

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happening in the fashion world.

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Did you, by chance see.

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The Ralph Lauren Fall Holiday.

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I honestly did not see

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all of it. I did see Christy Turlington,

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yes, walking, I was gonna say, your buddy

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opened.

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She's so magical looking.

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Gorgeous to a billy Joel

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saw. Yes, it's all

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the elements that would make a Rachel

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Zoe favorite fashion show. But

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the clothes looked incredible. I

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mean again, it's Ralph

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Laurence, so iconic, so true

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to the aesthetic of the brand. I

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think he walked

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out with Ricky at the end, always gave

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a little way. It's just very endearing

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to see a legendary designer

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still like at the top

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of their game.

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Yeah, truly at the top.

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It's I have to say, it's pretty incredible

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because I have to say, like I

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would argue that being a fashion designers

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up there in the top five

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most difficult

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professions one could ever choose.

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And it is not for the faint of heart, It is not.

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It is so difficult.

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It used to be somewhat formulaic.

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There was there was a there was a way that

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you knew how to win

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at the game. And now none

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of those rules apply anymore. None

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and right.

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Whenshion calendar as a business

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is all all over the place now and.

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No one stays on calendar.

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Like when I started, there

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was pretty much nobody

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that would show off a calendar because

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because it was dictated it was it was

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solely dependent on when the buyers

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and the fashion editors and stylists were

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coming in for the shows, and that

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it was predicated solely on that. And now

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because of the Internet, it literally

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doesn't matter when anyone

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shows, and deliveries take obviously

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much shorter people do drops,

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like the method in which you even.

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Deliver clothes to the stores is different.

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So yes, to not tangent,

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the entire fashion calendar has kind of

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gone, you know, out the window for the most

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part. Sure, Mark Jacobs does

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not show during fashion week, right, he shows

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like two weeks before or a week before. But

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honestly the show is quintessential

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Ralph Lauren, so it is true

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to his American

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I mean, I think he's the definition of American

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luxury. And I think, you know, he always

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does some beating, a little

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sparkle at the end, always

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like gorgeous like hammered satin

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flip dresses with like beautiful

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Kashmer sweaters, and cowboy

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hats and you know, and always.

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Like the silk skirt with like the like yummy

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cashmere.

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It's so beautiful. It never gets old, does

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doesn't It doesn't get old.

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It's so gorgeous.

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And I think, you know, truthfully, when you think of American

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luxury, it's like it's this, it

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is, and it's really just like

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I think of all the Ralph Lauren shows that I've attended

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in my life, and truthfully,

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like if I had to reimagine, it would

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probably look like the one he showed in New York yesterday.

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Yeah, you know, there's a little bit of like suede

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bomber jackets and suiting.

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And what I do love about Ralph is that

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for as long as I can remember, he

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was showing women in suits and tuxedos.

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Yeah, on the runway, not just commercially.

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And I love that because I think for him, he

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just really celebrates women and knows like

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women are powerful and they should show

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their power and when they're in a room, they.

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Too should be in a suit.

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And you know, I think Diane Keaton

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like almost exclusively worse Ralph Lauren.

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I mean, yeah, that's amazing.

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I mean I think like her character Annie Hall

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is like so iconic

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and so her yes,

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Like it's almost like you can't

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differentiate between the two. But

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yeah, I think the suiting is always beautiful. His

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use of Denome in an elevated way is

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like the most iconic you know.

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And don't be wrong, don't don't get me wrong, it's

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it spent.

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Yep dollar signs. But

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then at the end of the show, he came out with his wife Fricky

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and always how long have they been

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married? Do you know?

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Long before?

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I was like a very long time,

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Like I'm with

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my parents' age. Yeah, time

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that ye've been married, and definitely up there, and

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she's so beautiful and she's and

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like I just always picture them like they

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like he walks out on stage, but I kind of

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always see him like on a horse.

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To me, Ralph is on a horse, Yeah, but.

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Like leaning on a fence next

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to a horse.

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Yes. And And the thing about Ralph

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Laura and I do want to touch on this because it

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really does relate very much to climbing and heels.

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I think I think Ralph Lauren

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when I think of American

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luxury and when I all my younger

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friends that are designers are aspiring

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designers. The first thing they

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say when I talk to them for the first time,

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I want.

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Okay, who are your heroes?

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Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren,

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Ralp Lauren because Ralp Lurin and I think probably

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in Italy the designers probably say

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Georgie RMANI, you know, because

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I think that he is the depiction

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of literally

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American luxury, but beyond American

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luxury, He's the American dream. Yes,

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and I think like he started as a tie salesman

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on a street corner in Manhattan, and you

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know, was not a trained designer,

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right.

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But there's a beautiful documentary about him.

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Oh my god, it's so good.

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It's very good, so good. If you guys are

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interested, you should watch. It's just the premiere

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of that history.

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Yeah. History is really incredible too. It is

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the American dream, which is incredible.

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Okay.

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In other fashion news, yes, you attended

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the Daily front Row Los Angeles Fashion

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Awards, the eighth annual Daily

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front Row Awards. And let's

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get into it.

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I want to start with by.

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Your luke, what were you wearing.

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I was wearing a

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dress by my very dear friend, one of

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my loves who I've known my entire career

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jam Bautista Valley, and

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if you have not heard of sham Batista Valley,

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you must because he

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truly is one of the most brilliant designers out

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there, yep. Who makes the most dreamy,

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fantasy, magical

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gowns ever. He shows cature

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every season. He used

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to be Creve director of Bungo and

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then his own label and has been

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doing that for twenty years.

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And he's incredible. He dresses all sorts of royalty.

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Yep. I'm very low bro for him,

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but I wear a lot

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of sham Batista. Typically find myself

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in Oscar de la Rena yep or Jean

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Batista because they

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have a sort of vintagey

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seventies but also feminine

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book glamorous with a bit of an edge, usually

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metallics. There's feathers, there's sequence, there's

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glamor.

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There's glamor in there's slimmer.

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Yeah, there's glammer.

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It's not sleek and minimal, no and

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modern. No, it's very glamorous, and

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there's there's a touch of something like retro.

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And why not on a Sunday get in full

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gold Leme? Why not full

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gold Leme? Why not you look

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stunning beautiful.

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You ran into some to some friends.

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Well, I were.

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There, you know it.

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The fun thing for me about going to

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something like the Daily front Row is I

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definitely was at the first one. I think I've

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been at a few of them in between. But

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what's so nice is, you

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know, having come up in this industry, you

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know, it's only.

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Over the last few years that.

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The talent behind the scenes

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is celebrated and honored. And I

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think for me to be able to watch,

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you know, these sort of newer

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talents, I mean legendary

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iconic talents like Bob Mackie,

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but a Deer Aberge who is one

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of the very first hairstylists

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that I worked with with one of my very first

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celebrity clients over

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twenty years ago, and we collaborated.

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I probably collaborated more with a Deer than any other hairstylist

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in my career and we've remained

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friends forever. And I think like watching

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him winning so many awards,

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and for those of you that have not heard of

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him, he literally is transformative

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in women's lives. From Nicole

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Kibman, Charlie's Theron, Christian

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Store, Marian Cotillard and Hath

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the way you name it, you name

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it, but the thing is, you

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know it's funny. Jennifer Garner was

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presenting him with the award, in the way she spoke

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about him was so right

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on, because a deer and I

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would literally when we were doing a look

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for whether it was Anne Hathaway or Jen

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Gardner, whomever we were working with, Karen

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Knightley, we literally would

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talk about it for weeks

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and we would have tear sheets, and we

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would have meetings and we would like

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and then Jen would come in and be like, what are

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you crazy people talking about?

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I just made Piscotti like, she's

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like you.

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And so I think for me to have

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that experience with someone who

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cared as much as I did was so

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inspiring and fun for me, Yes, because

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you don't feel alone on an island, and so to

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see a deer still doing that and

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the way that he does it and the way that.

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He cares, it's

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unreal.

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What he has done for Kristen Stewart, I

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know, because he can take a woman

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with literally almost like a shaved

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head and somehow

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make nineteen hairstyles.

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I'm very elevated. I know. He's incredible.

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So it's a gift.

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It's it's nice too.

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I think you calling to

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mind. His willingness to collaborate,

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I think is something that was a standout

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when Jennifer was talking about him.

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And his work.

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It's like he's very

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involved, as you mentioned, but also very

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very collaborative

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with a stylist and with a makeup artist to

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create a sort of uniformed story

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for an actor, which is really really cool. He

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was amazing. Well, we can't talk

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about the awards on Sunday

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without talking about Doja

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Cat.

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Yeah, Doja Cat was really

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cool and her stylist did

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like chic bedroom lounge

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weear with like a sleep eye

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mask up in his hair and

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like silk short pjs.

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It was it was a luck. And then

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Doja Cat was wearing

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a massive, like

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mink coat to the floor.

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I'm going to assume it was fau and

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what was under it.

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No, she was wearing tight and

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she had like briefs and a brawlette,

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right, That's what it looked like.

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So she was sort of bare.

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They did this sort of lingerie PJ vibe

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and luggage.

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By the way, she was carrying like a vintage

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She.

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Literally was carrying two massive

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vintage suitcases. And I

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remember because we were sitting like a few

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seats over and I'm looking At'm like, did

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someone bring luggage? Like is someone getting

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on a plane after the show.

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That's funny.

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And then she went up and gave a really funny

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speech. But again, like Brett

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Brett, I again, I thinks

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I think a relationship between

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a stylist and an artist

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should never be underestimated

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or underappreciated because it

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is so intimate. Yes, and he won

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Music Stylist, He won Music Stylist

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of the Year, Brett Brett,

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Brett Brett. And he was so sweet.

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He actually gave me a shout out up on stage. She was

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a love but he was hilarious. I

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mean, the whole night was really funny and endearing.

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I love shows like that because it's

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not so uptight

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and serious and structured. And

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I think when you do a show that's celebrating creative

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people, you can't you can't

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put.

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Too much structure around it.

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No, you know. And they were great.

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They were a great dynamic duo.

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And I have so much love and appreciation

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for the relationship, a great relationship

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between an artist and a stylist.

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Totally.

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It was really fun to see them. You also bumped

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into Lisa Renna.

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Yes, Lisa Renna, you have. I don't think you've seen Lisa

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in a minute, right, Well I did.

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I've actually seen her quite a bit because

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she is out and about with her daughter Cristantly,

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Emilia and Hamlin

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and she you know, it's wild

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like I've known her girls since they were

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very little.

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I mean, I think the girls came

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with Lisa to one of our events before. I

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don't remember what it was.

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She walked in one of my shows, That's what it was. Oh,

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I'm eighteen. I want to say, that's right

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in pre COVID, and it's like pre COVID.

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I know.

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Amelia Gray one Model

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of the Year Daily Front, so Lisa

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and Harry here there.

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Her speech was so cool, it was so cute.

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And Katie Grand, another

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legend in my life and career, presented

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Amilia with Model of the Year. And

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Katie Grand for those of you that don't know, is

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iconic. She is responsible for

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discovering countless talent

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in the fashion world. She is

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the creative force and partner

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who has worked alongside Mark Jacobs

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for as long as I know him. She

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styled every one of his shows

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for Mark I mean she's

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a force. She has her own magazines

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in the UK, she has creative directed.

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I was going to say, where did she start her career too,

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No, I want to.

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See she a fashion editor. I want to see British

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Vogue. But it

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was definitely like she's

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really cool. Yeah, she's

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like now she has like the perfect magazine.

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Before that, it was like, I

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mean I know everything she's ever done.

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I mean like, yeah, she's just she's a force.

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And basically Amelia was saying to her when

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she got the award, you me, you

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really were the person who made

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her career turn a corner correct to

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massive success.

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Correct. And by the way, I'd like to note

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that.

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There are people in fashion

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who have that power of really

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like finding talent

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and discovering them. It was Love Magazine,

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I love Love Magazine, okay, okay,

16:51

which was one of my favorites. She shot me for it

16:53

a few times. But she

16:56

is someone who takes chances. She

16:59

is someone who part of my French

17:01

but doesn't give fuck all what people

17:03

think, what people say. She doesn't

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get caught up in the

17:07

nonsense.

17:08

Ever.

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She was always nice to me. Yeah,

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best friends with Mark Jacobs and always

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was his like creative partner in his shows

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and they're very like minded and.

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It was cool to get to meet her.

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Yeah, she's amazing.

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Yeah, she was funny.

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Oh, she's so funny.

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But similar to.

17:25

Like Karen Reitfield, who was

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the editor of French Folkue for many years,

17:30

certain people and she had put I

17:32

believe Kim Kardashian on the cover of

17:34

French Vogue and she was the first person

17:37

to put Kim in

17:40

fashion.

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Wow.

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Yeah, and say she's

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no joke. Yeah, you know if

17:46

I remember correctly, because it was like a huge deal,

17:48

right, you know, yep.

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And then Kim I think, was on the cover of American

17:52

Bookue with Kanye at the time.

17:54

Yes, yeah, but I'm sure, yeah,

17:57

I think French Folgue did come first.

17:59

I'm almost posit. I Karen put her

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on the cover first, and everyone was like, whoa, oh.

18:03

My gosh, what are you doing?

18:04

What do I think, like the queen of

18:07

fashion fashion? Yeah, is

18:09

putting pop culture.

18:10

Right on the front cover. Yeah. Well, speaking

18:13

of everyone's favorite Kardashian, Chris

18:16

Jenner was there the queen and

18:19

I hate to tell our listeners, I wasn't

18:21

quite close enough to eavesdrop on your conversation.

18:24

I was kind of like, you know, standing back, googly

18:27

eyed at all the other amazing people there.

18:29

But what did you and Chris talk

18:31

about? I don't know you were chatty.

18:34

You know what, Chris and I have friends for so

18:36

long.

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Yeah. I have always adored her.

18:39

I've always loved her. I've always respected

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her. She's always been funny as

18:43

f Yeah, she is such

18:46

a good friend. Like to all

18:49

who are lucky enough to be in Chris's

18:52

orbit, She's everything

18:54

that you dream Chris Jenner to be. And

18:56

long before she was Chris Jenner, she was this person.

18:59

Yeah. And she's

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just a very kind, caring, loyal,

19:05

beyond loyal. It's

19:08

funny, like she's just all the things. Yeah,

19:10

and you know, we share

19:12

a very dear mutual friend, d

19:15

hill Figure, who

19:18

also a friend of the Magical Angel,

19:21

married to Tommy hill Figure. And you

19:23

know, I think, I don't know,

19:26

she's just a real like girls girl. She's

19:28

just she just is amazing. And I think so

19:30

every time I see her, it's just safe, it's comfortable.

19:33

We just catch up and you know,

19:35

we just we just shoot the chisel.

19:37

Yeah, you know, between the two of you, I

19:40

certainly have enough kids to talk about herself. She has

19:42

more Oh my gosh, her grandkid

19:44

count it's really high. I don't

19:47

even know we'd have to count, but it's it's

19:50

she's got a lot of she's busy, she's got a lot of

19:52

grand kids.

19:53

My favorite fun fact about Chris actually

19:55

is every post she does, because poor Chris,

19:58

she has so many grand children and

20:00

so many children that at

20:03

least three times a week she's

20:05

doing a birthday post to a kid

20:07

or a grandchild.

20:08

I think I thought that sounds like the birthday calendar

20:10

must be crazy.

20:11

And she's so sweet. She even posts

20:14

for exes of hers

20:17

yeah and so and then plus

20:20

all of her girlfriends so, and

20:22

I find what's so endearing about her

20:25

is she still posts a little

20:27

bit like a tween. She'll say

20:30

you're the most You're the best friend,

20:33

sister, mother, daughter,

20:37

like, you know, like aunt.

20:40

She'll list out like comma, kamma, kamma,

20:42

comma, and.

20:43

She's just like and I'm so blessed, and you

20:45

know that she means everywhere totally

20:48

and like, to me, that's one of like the

20:50

most endearing and one of the things I

20:52

just truly love most about her.

20:54

Yeah, I don't know and she looks

20:56

damn good.

20:56

I was gonna say she also looked gorgeous.

20:58

She looks.

20:59

She really does, absolutely flawless.

21:02

And why don't you tell everybody why Chris was there?

21:04

Who was she awarding?

21:05

Oh?

21:05

Speaking of it's good to be Chris's friend.

21:08

Yeah, she was awarding one of her very

21:10

best friends. Uh, Anastasia,

21:15

who is the number one, the

21:18

number one eyebrow

21:21

artist. Yep. But she

21:23

actually was winning, I believe, Entrepreneur

21:26

of the Year. No, it was a beauty award.

21:28

It was a beauty Yeah, beauty entrepreneur. I

21:30

don't know, Beauty brand of the Year.

21:31

I think it was.

21:32

But Anastasia really

21:36

has lived the American dream.

21:39

She is a force if I have ever

21:41

known one. When I moved to LA

21:43

in two thousand and three and I

21:46

started working with some of the biggest

21:48

actresses in Holywood and

21:50

actors and now actually the technical

21:53

term is actor actor actors

21:55

actor.

21:56

Female or male. They

21:59

would not.

22:02

Go to a big event without the

22:04

very first person they saw being

22:06

Anasasia, right, because she made

22:08

their brows epically more amazing.

22:11

And she

22:14

really chose something niche,

22:17

but something brilliant and to be honest, in

22:20

the world of beauty we're living in. Eyebrows

22:22

probably take precedence over like

22:25

lashes at this point.

22:26

I mean, eyebrows are such a.

22:28

Thing because they change your face,

22:30

right, and she literally changed your face.

22:32

Was the like beauty pioneer to

22:34

go, I'm going to pick this one, huh, this

22:37

one part of a beauty routine

22:39

and just be the best at it. But

22:42

she did, and her

22:44

business has sploded into a million

22:46

other things.

22:46

But even beyond that, Like I'm

22:49

not kidding, when I met, like how

22:51

I met her in the early two

22:53

thousands was she would literally get

22:57

a ride from someone I

22:59

want to say it's her daughter, but she would

23:01

go from house to house starting

23:03

at seven in the morning and do

23:05

the brows of every one of my clients

23:08

and beyond, because no one could start anything

23:10

unless the brows were Anasasia.

23:12

And that was how I met her. It

23:14

was the most mind blowing thing. And then

23:18

she.

23:20

Unearthed her

23:23

cosmetic line.

23:24

Yeah, and it has absolutely

23:27

exploded to monumental yep,

23:30

like monstrous proportions.

23:32

She literally she has one

23:34

of the biggest beauty brands in the world.

23:35

Yeah, she has like a multi billion dollar brand, and

23:37

so she's a true success story. And again,

23:40

similar to Chris, and it makes sense why they're

23:42

so close. She is insanely

23:45

loyal and she is a girl's girl, and

23:47

she is the American dream.

23:48

She works.

23:50

It's like what Rogery says when

23:52

people ask why I was successful over

23:54

other stylists, and Roger Roy says, she outworked

23:56

everybody. I would say that about Anasasia.

23:58

I would say that about Chris Jenner. I would

24:00

say that A dear two, a

24:02

deer two. And Anna Sausia. She

24:06

hustled, she wore, She literally

24:10

came to this country. What did she say at fifteen or

24:12

something with your thing?

24:13

Yeah, so you know, English was

24:15

her second language, and by the way, I learned

24:17

English. You know. Yeah, she's She's

24:19

incredible. She very deserving of

24:21

her award.

24:23

So nice to see these people win.

24:24

Amazing success story.

24:28

Speaking of hard workers.

24:29

You were called upon to present

24:32

an award to a stylist

24:34

named Aaron Walsh and she

24:36

won Style.

24:37

Curator of the Year.

24:39

Yep, so tell

24:41

us a little bit about.

24:42

Aaron well Erin

24:44

is a sweetheart.

24:45

Yes, she is. She u

24:48

we share an agent and Aarin

24:51

funny enough, had

24:54

like we had met each other a couple of times over

24:57

the years in passing yep.

24:59

But I didn't really know her at all.

25:02

I remember her coming up to me being very

25:04

timid years ago, like pre COVID,

25:07

and she was super sweet. And then

25:10

we sat next to each other at the Fashion

25:12

Trust dinner a year ago and

25:15

she literally for the whole night just

25:18

was like like I've

25:21

watched you, I've looked up to you know, she couldn't have been more

25:23

gracious and kind about

25:27

you know, I guess just how

25:29

she has looked

25:31

at my career in my own and whatever, but like just

25:34

so gracious and so sweet. Yep.

25:37

And I just remember leaving that night going, what a

25:40

sweetheart? What like an angel?

25:42

And I think for me coming off so much

25:44

like so many vindictive

25:47

people in this industry, I

25:49

think when I meet genuinely kind people,

25:51

you're like, it's like that person.

25:53

Like when I moved to LA and I walked into a supermarket

25:56

and they started packing my bags and I was like,

25:58

what's going on?

25:59

I was like questioning.

26:00

I was confused, But Erin is

26:02

a love and so now

26:04

we've become friendly and she's

26:06

she's a doll. And she reached

26:08

out to me about presenting

26:11

her this award, and so

26:14

I said yes because it just felt it couldn't

26:16

say no because I feel, you

26:19

know, and and

26:21

Erin.

26:21

Not to cut you off, but Erin is also very

26:24

very successful and working with a ton of clients

26:27

like you did, and also has three children,

26:29

has three little little ones, which

26:32

is right,

26:35

which can It's no joke. I mean that's

26:37

that's a lot on her plate.

26:39

And not sure why when I when I presented

26:42

to her, where I

26:44

went to in my head with my speech

26:47

was it's

26:50

you see the highlight rill of being a stylist,

26:52

yep. But the work and the

26:54

hours and the dedication and

26:57

what you miss the sacrifice.

27:00

This sacrifice is real,

27:03

you know. And I don't think

27:05

that should ever be underestimated and underappreciated.

27:09

Honestly.

27:10

Yeah, I think especially when you have children,

27:13

because these stylists are leaving their

27:15

kids and it's not easy.

27:18

It's not easy to ever leave your kids. But I think

27:20

stylist hours are not working hours.

27:22

No, they're any hour. Yeah, they're

27:25

all hours.

27:25

It's quite opposite from a typical nine to

27:27

five, you might say, but yeah,

27:30

no, talking about a deserving, very deserving

27:32

stylist and a very hard working stylist. I mean she got

27:34

on a red eye and flew to New York right after

27:36

the award show to be with a client

27:38

for press day. So I mean's she's

27:40

in the grind yep and the grind

27:42

working hard yep. Well, I want to talk

27:44

about a very important

27:47

figure in fashion that won the Lifetime

27:49

Achievement Award. Stylist

27:52

La Roach presented him with

27:54

the Lifetime Achievement Award.

27:56

To Bob Mackie. Yep.

27:58

That was crazy crazy.

28:01

They so also for our listeners,

28:03

there's going to be a

28:06

Bob Mackie documentary coming out. They didn't

28:08

tell us the date, no, because I don't think they've

28:10

finished it quite yet, but they

28:12

basically played for everybody in the audience

28:14

like a little three minute sizzle teaser of

28:18

the documentary.

28:18

And it looks insane.

28:20

Yeah, it looks so good.

28:23

So tell us about Bob Mackie from your lens.

28:25

I mean, Bob Mackie is He's

28:28

just unreal. I mean, Bob Mackie is, like,

28:30

what do you think of when someone says.

28:32

Bob Mackie Share Share?

28:33

Yeah, I also think of Goldie Cony

28:36

because she has worn a ton of Bob Mackie.

28:38

I think of Carol Burnett.

28:39

Yeah, I think I think of Dolly Parton

28:42

With Dolly Parton, I mean you just

28:44

think of the absolute

28:47

pinnacle of glamour and sparkle

28:49

and like and icons,

28:52

and I think, listen for

28:54

me. When I think of like stand

28:56

out star talent and designers,

29:00

I think about designers

29:03

that love women. Yeah, designers

29:05

that hold women in

29:07

a place of almost

29:10

like royalty, in a way where it's sort

29:12

of like, you know who's like the honestly like

29:14

Michael Cores. Like Michael

29:16

Cores if you talk to him,

29:19

he loves women right like he

29:21

meaning he wants them to

29:24

look and feel their best at

29:26

any age of anybody, type

29:29

of any style. Michael has

29:31

a gift to make an eighty five year old woman

29:33

feel as magical and glamorous as

29:35

that twenty five year old woman. Yes, and

29:38

so there's always an appreciation I have

29:41

for designers that you can clearly see

29:44

do this because

29:46

they admire and hold

29:48

women in a special place that they

29:51

feel they should be on this pedestal of

29:54

this sort of power and a

29:57

sort of a sense of sort

29:59

of real goal.

30:00

Miss And it doesn't mean royalty.

30:02

It just means she could be wearing that Kashmir turtleneck

30:04

and a pair of trousers like in the world of

30:06

Ralph Lauren totally right. But she's

30:09

but she's everything, and she should

30:12

feel like she's everything, and

30:14

she's first, not second.

30:16

And so with Bob.

30:18

Mackie, you can tell

30:20

that he's obsessed with

30:24

women dressing up. And

30:26

he talked about that, and he talked

30:29

about the fact that as a society,

30:31

how important it is to still have a

30:34

culture in some way

30:37

that wants to dress up. Yes, and

30:39

that is how I feel, and that is how

30:41

I live and probably why I love Europe so

30:43

much, because people still dress

30:45

up right, and la is a very

30:48

casual place where you can get away with wearing

30:50

a pair of polished jeans and like a blazer

30:53

to a black tipe. You could totally.

30:56

It wouldn't be the dream, but you could. Yeah, some

30:58

have tried. Some tried, and

31:00

so I think, you know, I

31:04

think, I think listening to Bob Mackie

31:06

like speak about it was beyond.

31:09

Really cool, really really iconic

31:12

and very very cool.

31:13

Do you own some Bob Mackie's.

31:14

Yes, I owned several Bob

31:16

Makys.

31:17

Not enough. I'm trying to.

31:18

I'd like to own more.

31:19

Sure what we all the one that

31:22

you loved the most awarded the In Style

31:24

Awards. Long sleeve comes

31:26

to the ankle, gold white

31:30

and silver, Yes, with like a mock

31:32

neck.

31:32

I wore to InStyle.

31:33

Yes, that's beautiful. I love it. It's heavy,

31:36

Yeah, very heavy. His dresses are like.

31:38

That's where I was going to say, too, And also like

31:40

shout out to Share Diana Ross.

31:43

Yes, forget on

31:45

stage performing bouncing around, jumping

31:47

around in these super heavy

31:50

Yes garments.

31:52

They are so heavy and in SHARE's

31:54

case, ahead piece, Oh my.

31:56

Gosh, that's amazing, the Iconic

31:58

Share Academy Awards. It's

32:00

like black feather head

32:02

piece, open mid drift

32:05

of course, squin top,

32:08

long skirt that's in the documentary,

32:10

that was in the little teaser that they showed us that

32:12

moment, which is incredible. But I just think it's

32:14

amazing that Bob Mackie has a career that

32:16

has literally run

32:19

the test of time. From amazing legendary

32:21

performer, entertainer, comedian Carol

32:24

Burnett to Miley Cyrus

32:26

literally just wore Bob MCIs at the Grammy

32:29

for her performance.

32:30

So it's like, this.

32:32

Man and his talent is truly

32:35

timeless, agreed, And there's literally

32:37

something for every every

32:39

generation. Agreed, which

32:42

is just really unheard of these

32:44

days, I think.

32:45

And I hope it continues, Like I hope that his archives,

32:48

you know, he obviously opened it opened up his

32:50

archives for this film, Yes, and for

32:52

Sindeia yes, and for Miley.

32:55

I mean, I think he still wants to be seen.

32:57

Yeah, God, bless what do you feel

32:59

about changing

33:02

gears? Here?

33:03

La Roach is obviously styling Senda and

33:06

she's on this major press tour for a

33:08

movie called Challengers, which is about

33:10

a professional tennis player. So

33:12

everyone is sort of gearing

33:15

up for like barbiecore Tennis

33:17

Corp. Will

33:20

we be seeing Rachel Zoe in any tennis cour this

33:22

spring?

33:23

No, no, you won't, but you

33:25

might be through the tennis racket with my kids.

33:29

No, no sweater tied around

33:31

your.

33:32

Sure, sure after your nefe

33:35

sure. Fun fact. I was a

33:37

tennis player and one all sorts of trophies

33:39

as a tennis player, and you did until

33:41

I was fifteen.

33:42

What happened at fifteen?

33:43

I had a boyfriend, gone,

33:46

we're sports. I met the love of my life.

33:49

I quit piano art loves.

33:52

Hush your mouth, Roger, don't listen to right?

33:56

Could the love of my the first

33:58

love very guy.

34:00

There you go, So you forgot the tennis

34:02

racket. But what I mean it's okay? So

34:05

what did you wear to play tennis then?

34:06

In your teens? I think I was wearing a lot

34:08

of fila where I think I was like in

34:11

a full.

34:11

Luck yeah, like a tennis skirts.

34:14

Yeah, yeah, okay, I was into it.

34:16

So you can tennis core, but William

34:19

I can.

34:19

But I think now and unless I have a racket

34:21

in my hand, I most definitely the last

34:23

time I was on a court, which I think was this summer,

34:26

I was in a wedge.

34:27

I was in like a y Cel wedge cap.

34:29

Snap.

34:30

I think I'm going to be on the ground.

34:32

No, you can't.

34:33

You know, Kius asked me to hit with.

34:34

Him and there was no way.

34:35

I was saying no, right, I mean, yeah, you

34:37

want to participate with the kids, but maybe take

34:40

the wedges off.

34:40

Yeah next time.

34:41

Yeah, that court is hot.

34:43

Man.

34:45

I got to bring a sneaker.

34:46

We gotta, I don't know, yeah, we got to figure

34:48

out a sneaker for you. I know. It's

34:50

like saying bad words.

34:51

Do you feel very flat? Very

34:54

flat?

34:55

Yeah? What's any more tea that you have

34:57

about the Award show?

35:00

Other good goss. I mean it was

35:02

you know, I thought listening to Amelia was

35:04

really funny, Yeah, because I

35:06

think she was taking humor in herself, like I've

35:08

never won an award, so

35:11

this is a first. And then Jen

35:14

Gardner's speech was also really funny.

35:16

I mean, listen, Jen is you

35:18

know.

35:19

I've known Jen twenty one

35:22

years now, and from

35:24

the day I met her, I

35:27

laughed so hard, and people and interviews

35:29

would just be like, what's a fun factor, What's

35:31

the thing we don't know about Jen Garner? And I'm

35:33

like, she isn't arguably the funniest person

35:36

I know. She is the funniest

35:38

person I know. And she

35:40

got on stage and delivered that speech

35:43

as if she was doing it a comedy

35:45

sketch, but like she was speaking from her heart,

35:47

you know.

35:48

So Jim was amazing.

35:51

Oh, we have to say the

35:53

show was m seed by a comedian

35:55

and Australia Adian Celeste Barber.

35:57

Hilarious. She's so funny.

36:00

I've been following her on Instagram for so

36:03

long. She did,

36:06

and she reminded everybody of that. She played

36:08

a video of a of a funny little

36:10

skit she did with Tom Ford to

36:13

start the evening.

36:13

And she's hilarious.

36:14

So if you don't know of Celeste Barber or

36:16

follow her, you should because she's epically

36:18

funny.

36:19

I want to make it.

36:19

Her career is just like skyrocketing.

36:22

Make it.

36:23

I know. I wish Tom Ford would have been there. That would have

36:25

been Bob Mackie and Tom Ward in the

36:27

same room. Might have combusted.

36:30

Too much greatness.

36:31

He's living his best life. He sold his company.

36:34

He deserves it. He deserves to live

36:36

his best.

36:36

Life right now, right off into the sunset.

36:39

He never will He's going to keep now.

36:40

He's a virgo. It's a disease.

36:44

And on that note, we

36:46

will wrap it up.

36:48

But thanks for listening. Well, thank talk to you

36:50

guys. LI also let us

36:52

know for me, I think it would be so

36:54

fun if you guys would DM

36:56

us what guests you would love me

36:58

to interview. That would be great. I

37:01

would love to hear that.

37:02

Yeah, keep the guest suggestions coming because

37:04

we have a few things in the pipeline that I won't

37:06

spoil now, but we'd love to hear what you guys

37:08

want to want to hear. So

37:11

we'll talk to you soon.

37:12

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