This recording is from the second day of the Second Biennial Law and Society in Africa Conference, held in Cairo 1-3 April 2019.The session was a conversation between Professor Mark Massoud from the University of California, Heba Khalil from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Smith Ouma from the Centre for Law and Global Justice at Cardiff University, and Jameelah Omar, Omowamiwa Kolawole and Ruth Nekura Lekakeny from the University of Cape Town.