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What's your opinion
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on that? Well
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it's definitely true because
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he's, I mean we
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talked about this before but it's like that
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Bob Marley said is that everybody
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is going to hurt you, especially the people
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that you love. Everybody you love is going
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to hurt you. some way shape
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or form and the key
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is to find which people are worth
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suffering for and that's what They're
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talking about in that clip is that
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He's like you're a bitch. You're a pain in
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my ass and I know I'm an arrogant dickhead
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But that's how relationships are and you're supposed to
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call me out when I'm being an arrogant asshole
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or a dickhead And I'm gonna
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call you out when you're being an insufferable
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bitch or an insufferable cunt, right? And
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you know, that's that's what love is the communicate
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to the other person ideally in
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a loving way, right? not fighting
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but communicating and pointing
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out that the way the other person is
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treating you or their behavior is inappropriate. Yeah,
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and Talking in
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a calm manner. I mean granted that's Hollywood and
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it gets hyped up, but I Mean
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relationships are messy and sometimes people get excited and
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their feelings, you know, they get their panties in
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a wah they get their feelings all wrapped up
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and They react based
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upon their feelings and so you got to be able
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to Say things that are
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truthful, but they're not very nice and it's
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gonna hurt the other person's feelings but if
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they're doing things that are Out
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of line or inappropriate you have to tell them
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even if it hurts their feelings or it's gonna
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make Make them cry or
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it's an unpleasant uncomfortable truth Yeah because
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that's one thing that women love about us
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guys and love about men is that
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we have the confidence to tell you
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what we're Really thinking or what we
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think of you or your behavior or
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the way you've treated us versus
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just going oh everything's great because we're worried
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to upset you and Potentially
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lose you yeah And the
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reality is is women have to know that
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if they push a guy too far We'll
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walk and we'll never fucking look back. Right?
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Like if you cross that line Women
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gotta know they gotta be able to feel that they gotta be able
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to feel that I've I Literally, I'm
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probably never gonna hear from this dude again Unless
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I pick up the phone and call him or go see
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him or apologize, right? and if she's willing to
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let you go then Well, she
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really didn't care enough to change your behavior That's
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okay. That's gonna happen sometimes. Yeah, sometimes
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people their personalities don't jive or they're
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not compatible or they don't really get
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along And they don't
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care for one another enough They don't like each
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other enough to want to change or to do
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the things that a person wants to do. Mm-hmm
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You got to lay it all out there and they can
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either say yay or nay Yeah, the idea
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is to keep on working together, you
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know The whole idea is to be
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together, stay together and get better and
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healthy not to just run away at
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any little Inconvenience, you
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know, that's not love if you love someone
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you're gonna tell them when they're wrong when
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they're right and what you can Do together
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as a team to figure
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it all out But
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yeah, I saw that video and I was just like
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I love this because it's so true
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like I'm
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gonna tell you things you don't like it might
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sound hurtful. You might not like it, but it's
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coming out of love It's not hate. I'm not
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trying to hurt your feelings I'm just
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trying to be honest and truthful because I care about
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you and I don't know
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that video just made me feel like Oh, I love this.
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This is like a definition of
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love that I would like to have in the
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future You know, what's interesting about
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that scene is that it starts out. I mean, we
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don't I don't know the whole context I haven't seen
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that movie in over 20 years whenever
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it came out But
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she's basically I'm leaving you're being a jerk
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and I'm leaving Yeah, you know, he's upset
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her and she's you know, gonna storm off
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and he's like you shouldn't leave.
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Let's talk it out Let's work it out. Right
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and it reminded me of I
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had a girlfriend of mine. We just moved in
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together and Got
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our house all together and everything and and I
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don't know what it was about but I She
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got upset started crying. She's like, that's it. I
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believe I'm going home Like
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she's packing to start a pack a bag
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and like she's gonna just leave and go
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back to her parents house I'm just thinking number one.
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It's like that's kind of embarrassing Because
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we need to be able to work our problems out
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between her and I and I just get mad
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and leave and go back to mom and dad. So
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I was just like, we need to sit and talk.
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I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I'm not trying
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to hurt your feelings. It wasn't my intent. But what
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you did upset me. We
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ended up talking and working things out. So
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I think the
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reason why I brought that up is
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because sometimes women will suggest the end
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of the relationship or
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suggest space or suggest that you
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need time apart. Not
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because they really want that, but because they want
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to see does he care enough about me to
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tell me to stay or is he just going
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to let me go? And
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if he lets you go, well, then you assume that he
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doesn't give a shit. But if he's like, no, I want
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you to stay. Let's talk and work it out. In
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other words, she's making it easy for the guy to tap
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out and go, yeah, see you later. Don't let the door
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hit you in the ass on your way out. So
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it's not a real big deal that you're disagreeing over. You're
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like, I don't want you to leave. I don't need
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space. I don't want to break. Yeah,
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like we're butting heads on something and we need
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to work it out. We need to talk it out. And
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a good woman will do that. A
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woman who's a train wrecking a lunatic will be like, no,
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screw you. And then she'll take off and you won't hear
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from her for three or four days. And
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then she'll calm down and then get in touch.
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And then when I act like nothing ever happened, I want
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to talk about it. Yeah. There
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are women out there that are like that. You'll never be
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able to work out any differences. You'll just have to deal
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with silent treatment for three or four days. And
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then she'll come back and expect you to just sweep
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it under the rug like nothing ever happened. And
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it's, that's not adult communication. I don't want
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to be in a relationship with somebody that
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behaves that way. Right. And I think some
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people don't realize in the
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moment that whatever you're fighting about
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might be just so little, but
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the way it's like being blown out of
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proportion, it starts becoming something bigger and bigger
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and bigger. And then you're in this whole
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rut where you're just like, I don't
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think it's ever going to get better. But
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then when you realize, what are we really arguing
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about? What are we fighting over? tiniest
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little thing. So it's like it
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could be so simple, so easy to
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figure things out, but stubborn people. It's
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probably even your damn toothpaste in a sink,
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Caroline. Right. And that turns into, oh,
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but you're dirty. You see, you don't clean,
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you don't respect me. Pick your towels up
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off the bathroom floor, Caroline. Like
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I don't know. Your hair is everywhere. Your hair's
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all in my sink. Then it turns
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into a conversation. Well, really, I just don't like
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the person you are. And then boom,
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that's a whole new argument. New fight,
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wait, you don't like me. What are
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we going to do? It's like stick
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to what really matters in the
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moment. And it's your relationship, how you want
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to get better and come together so you
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can just move on and be happy. Dilly
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beloved, we are gathered here today to
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come together, to
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come together as a couple in the holy
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matrimony. And
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this scene, they were actually arguing. She
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was leaving because she already left him
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the first time he was broke and
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she was a millionaire, rich, from a
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rich family. But she
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still loved him, even though he couldn't afford
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anything. And he realized that her life
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was going to keep moving on. And he felt
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that he was going to hold her back because
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she was going to Harvard or something like that.
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And in New York, and they were in like North
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Carolina or something. And she was like, you can come
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with me, come, come with me to New York. And
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he's like, what am I going to do in New
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York? And she was like, be with me. And
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he was just like, no. And that's when he realized I need to
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let this girl go. So he said, I think
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you're better off without me. And it broke her heart because
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she was just like, I don't care how much money I
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have, how much money you have, I just want to be
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with you. But that tells me that you're
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not confident, you know, you're not secure as a
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man. She ended up leaving to
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New York. And then that same day that
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she was flying away, he realized, what am
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I doing? I'm an idiot. That's the love
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of my life. And he runs back to
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her house and she's already gone. And
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he doesn't see her ever again. He sends her
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letters and then the mom. Like
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those are the letters so that she doesn't find
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them in years pass by she meets someone new
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Then she finds out that he's doing better
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that he's working. He has money He's
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successful and comes back and
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he's with the same attitude Just insecure and
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not sure if he's the man for her
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and that's when that happened She's
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like, you know, I'm just gonna leave and then he realized I just
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want to fight for you You know, I want to be with you
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well part of her leaving is You
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know, it's like what I was talking about
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before it's it's a test she didn't really
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want to leave She's not intent
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on leaving. She's saying that in
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hopes that he fights
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for if you will which is
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him basically saying Get your
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ass back here. Let's talk. Let's work this out. I
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don't want you going anywhere. It's like not a big
10:47
deal Let's just talk this out. Right and
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so that's you know, that scene reminds me
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of that, you know a Conversation
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I had with a girlfriend that had just moved
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in with me and we butted
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headed to about something She got so upset. She's you know
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packing a bag to go back to her parents house. I
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was like, it's ridiculous I didn't let her
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go but I did have a Situation
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years later with a girl. I was
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really super in love with and I was still learning this stuff
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and she was like well, maybe we need some time
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apart and you need to think about things and how
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you feel about things and and I
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heard all that and we caught me off guard and I
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was like Well,
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that's what you really want to do I don't really
11:27
want any space and I was
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like, okay And
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then I don't know it's like four four or
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five days later I still hadn't heard from her
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He's really fucking pissed and
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I later heard this from her brother. It's like
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after I hung up with her. She's like Oh
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And It led to a series
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of events that ultimately ended the
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relationship. It was because it's like I had
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done it with somebody else
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I had been with. I did the right thing,
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but with this one, and I, because I really
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loved her, I still hadn't connected all the dots
12:07
at the time. Yeah. The stuff that I teach
12:09
now. I was like, okay. I
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let her go, even though I didn't really want
12:13
her to go. And she was just, she
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was making it easy for me to dip out.
12:18
Right. And the way she took it was like, I didn't
12:20
want to be with her anymore. And
12:22
you didn't think to like, call her late. You were
12:24
waiting on her to reach out to you? Yeah,
12:26
I just figured, well, cause she's like, well, we
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should take some time apart and so you can
12:31
see how you feel about things. Yeah. And
12:33
I was like, okay. She wants
12:35
time apart. It's kind of like
12:37
when a woman says fine, it's fine, Cory. It's
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not fine. Yeah, I know. So you
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have, you know, so I
12:44
had, twice, I had a situation like that
12:46
one time. I did everything
12:48
right. And another time I completely fucked up and it
12:50
ended my relationship with somebody who was one of the,
12:52
one of the loves of my life at the time.
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Who broke contacts? Or
12:59
was contact ever broken or that just, you
13:01
guys ended indefinitely? I think,
13:04
well, I don't think we spoke. I think I
13:06
went, it was like the next,
13:08
it was like a week and a half later, I went to her cousin's
13:10
wedding and she was there. Cause that was where we
13:12
were both going to go, but obviously we didn't go together. And,
13:16
you know, we ended up sitting together
13:18
at dinner and, you know,
13:20
her brother and I were talking, he's like,
13:22
dude, you're fucking up. And
13:25
then I told him my side of the story would happen. And
13:27
he's like, oh, I didn't know that. Cause obviously she told him
13:29
her, her question. But at the end of the day, things
13:32
didn't really click. Some, you know, some
13:34
things happened after that. Some things she
13:37
didn't said, some things I didn't said.
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And then ultimately it ended, but it
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wasn't until years later, when I
13:43
looked back, I was like, ah, totally
13:46
saw where I had fucked up. And
13:48
that experience of getting burned like that
13:50
or losing a relationship like this, like
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Over the last 20 something years I've been doing
13:56
this, I've helped countless dudes with that to not
13:58
make the same mistake I did. The
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road marriage together or their relationship or
14:03
whatever is like. Also, they teach. I've
14:05
I've been. Up the mountain
14:07
down the mound fallen down the mountain been
14:09
the top of the man found out again
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as like when you. You finally
14:14
learned something and you connect enough the
14:16
dots. It's like he kind of get
14:18
through the. The. Shadow
14:20
of the Valley of Death if you will. Get.
14:23
There Now it's like you know how to
14:25
do it and then you can teach other
14:28
people rather. land mines are that will wreck
14:30
their relationship and you get him through the
14:32
minefield my and get him to the promised
14:34
land where they need to be and
14:36
so even all as things happen were. Very.
14:39
Unpleasant and break up Zoc and that
14:41
one really hurt. Bad hits like I
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learned a lot from it and me
14:45
a better man at all. The girlfriends
14:47
I've had since in got the benefit
14:50
of that and then novices. Tens.
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Of thousands of phone session clients if
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you have email with and. Millions.
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Of people around the world over over last
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twenty years and learn the stuff now and
15:01
it's help them so. You need experiences
15:03
like that in order to grow unless you
15:05
never know to the say. So
15:08
benefited you. A hurt that it means you
15:10
grow. As a painful lesson, pain as
15:12
life change age and it's slice way of saying
15:14
that what you're doing is wrong way. And.
15:17
Either you can keep on going in that routine or
15:19
to make a change. His.
15:23
Part of it was I was learn
15:25
the balance between pursuing too much in
15:27
the Not Enough and in that case
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they didn't pursue a not center here.
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And then it led to see into
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the relationship. I was too much of
15:36
a cold.
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