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143: Freeing Britney, Will's Goodwill Obsession, and Gender Selection

Released Thursday, 11th February 2021
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143: Freeing Britney, Will's Goodwill Obsession, and Gender Selection

143: Freeing Britney, Will's Goodwill Obsession, and Gender Selection

143: Freeing Britney, Will's Goodwill Obsession, and Gender Selection

143: Freeing Britney, Will's Goodwill Obsession, and Gender Selection

Thursday, 11th February 2021
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0:07

Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Copy

0:10

Columbus podcast. Good morning.

0:13

Good morning. I have I'm I know it sounds like I'm may or may not be on crack, but I'm actually just on coffee and I'm not really excited about the coffee conversation.

0:24

We're about to have, because I got Wawa coffee, which I haven't had in forever and my lid wouldn't stay on.

0:31

So I kept like almost willing it the entire time I was drinking it.

0:36

That is really unfortunate. You know, I hate does my voice sound like a boy right now?

0:42

No, but it sounds a little like, are you sick?

0:45

Do you have Rona? No

0:46

stop spreading rumors.

0:48

No,

0:48

I

0:48

didn't

0:48

have

0:48

anything

0:48

to

0:48

drink

0:48

this

0:48

morning

0:48

until

0:48

like

0:48

a

0:48

few

0:48

minutes

0:56

ago. And so maybe my throat just dry and sounding a little boy ish, but anyhow, back to the coffee, it's very unfortunate when situations like that happen, you know, like when things just go wrong.

1:11

Yeah, yeah. 100%. Like we know what else went wrong this morning.

1:14

I had bought Buddha a new bed.

1:16

He's the, the, I was gonna call him the queen, but he's the King of, he rips up his bed.

1:22

Like I can't keep a bed for him for some reason.

1:25

And I bought him a new one and it came yesterday.

1:28

Literally took it out of the package at probably like five o'clock last night.

1:32

And this morning I came downstairs and it was completely ripped to shreds.

1:37

So that was a nice little thing.

1:39

Oh

1:39

my

1:42

God. Imagine honestly, can we talk about that for a second?

1:45

Because what is it like having dogs that are as big as humans?

1:49

Because I can't relate and can't imagine, Well,

1:54

I love it sometimes because he just feels like he's a person like he's I just love him so much.

2:00

And then, well, karma, she's a bitch.

2:04

Like she's a huge bitch.

2:05

So she's like, she's good.

2:08

She's great. But she's, she doesn't like men.

2:11

And so she's just like me and dog horn, but they're just shut up.

2:16

Cause they're so like, I just feel like they're very cuddly and like loving and then gizmos just he's little and he's like Della and he's well, I'm lying.

2:30

He's a really cuddly too. Is Della cuddly?

2:32

Like will she cuddled? Yeah, No

2:33

honey, no, no, no, honey.

2:38

She Doesn't cuddle.

2:39

She is like a, Percher

2:41

like, yeah, she gets on the top of the furniture and she lays there and she doesn't want to be bothered.

2:48

She doesn't want to be touched.

2:49

And she does this weird thing.

2:51

I actually wanted to ask all the pet parents on here, if their animals do this, I feel like cats probably do.

2:57

But when you like talk to Della in a sweet voice, she starts stretching her body out, like so that she can get like more attention.

3:07

And then she stretches like her back legs out.

3:10

I'll take a video of this, but like every single time.

3:13

So it's got to be something that she does, like when she's getting affection.

3:17

She like, she like, she stretches.

3:21

Yeah. That's so interesting. I need to see a video of this.

3:24

I love when she smiles. That's my favorite thing.

3:26

And I just, I need you to frame a picture of her smiling because that is amazing.

3:31

She she's the funniest, but yeah, I couldn't imagine cuddling with a dog.

3:38

That's as big as a horse. Yeah.

3:40

That's Like cuddling a person. That's why I love it so much.

3:43

I love that. You love that. And I love all of the people on here that have big dogs.

3:48

I got bit by a big dog whenever.

3:51

Well, it was no really, I guess like border Collie.

3:56

That's not a big dog. Well, It felt like it was big to me, but we're talking about, I was in fourth grade, I think.

4:03

So it probably was like big then, but yeah, I got bit by a border Collie and it like drugged me and ripped my blue jeans and I was so upset about it.

4:17

Not only was I like afraid, but I was upset to go home.

4:20

Like I would be in trouble because my pants were ripped and like I was bleeding everywhere and obviously that's a completely irrational, like why would I be in trouble for that?

4:30

But I just remember like, feeling like that.

4:33

And I just wonder if big dogs aren't a thing for me because of that.

4:38

Right, right, right, right. Yeah. I could see that.

4:40

I could totally see that I've never talked to any animal.

4:43

No, I was going to say, I mean, my mom had a cat when I was a kid and his name was Sergeant pepper and he was an indoor cat.

4:51

And I used to drag a blanket behind me when I would get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.

4:58

Because in the middle of the night, if he saw me walking, he'd like attack me.

5:03

But like he wasn't doing it because he was, he wasn't doing it to be a Dick.

5:08

He was doing it because he's a cat, you know, like, yes.

5:11

But I would just, I learned to drag the, either a towel or a blanket behind me to go to the bathroom.

5:18

But other than that, no, I've never actually been attacked by an animal.

5:21

So I can't really, and that's, I could see how fucking scary and terrifying that would be So

5:26

terrifying. And then when dogs like come up to me, we'll be like at the park and they'll try to come up and Jackson loves any dogs.

5:33

And I don't know.

5:34

At what age did you start teaching your boys?

5:37

Like not to approach other people's dogs.

5:39

Because I feel like for Jackson, he started doing, he started trying to do it like maybe two years ago and we had to have that conversation and that, you know, it was like the era of why.

5:51

Well, why don't I approach the dog and wide So

5:54

far? I haven't had to explain to my kids only because they they're not dog people.

5:59

They aren't no, like, they're not like Lincoln actually ju like hobby texted me the other day.

6:05

And Lincoln was bawling his eyes out about bear, but he was, you know, bear was there when he was born.

6:11

Other than like bear.

6:13

They're just not interested in dogs.

6:15

Like at all. None of them.

6:17

Wow. That's so interesting.

6:19

Yeah. It's they don't, they don't care.

6:22

And they have dogs at all. Like hobby has a dog, Joe and V have two dogs, Lux.

6:29

His dad's family has dogs.

6:30

Like, but Lux is like the most interested out of all of them.

6:34

But definitely still just not like, if we didn't have any, they wouldn't Care

6:38

and lugs might be his age too.

6:41

Like just curious and wanting to be into everything at this moment in time.

6:46

So. Right, right. You know, it could be a little bit of that too.

6:49

Yeah. We had to have the conversation about approaching other people's dogs.

6:52

And when dogs come up to me at parks or whatever, I always like jump back because I'm like afraid and how to think it's like a natural reaction to do that.

7:03

And then I always feel bad because I'm like, I don't want people to think that I think they're dogs mean or whatever, but literally anytime I see a border Collie, forget it, like freaking forget it.

7:15

Not a thing. Cats are not a thing for me.

7:18

Jackson loves all animals.

7:20

He loves cats. He loves dogs.

7:22

We would have a zoo at this house.

7:24

He

7:24

just

7:24

loves

7:27

it. Like he wants a big dog. He's like, mom, I want a dog where I can ride on its back.

7:31

And like, my that's a horse, honey.

7:33

Like that's not, that's not a dog and it's not happening at our house.

7:43

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7:47

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10:21

Anyhow. So what else is going on in your life?

10:24

Okay. There's well, a lot, but also there's just so many other things that I want to talk about that have been going on like pop culture and like current events, like the free Brittany stuff, the Robin hood app situation.

10:37

And then I read yesterday that P Diddy was suing Sean, John, which I thought that P Diddy's name was Sean, John.

10:44

And I thought that he owned it too.

10:46

When I read that.

10:47

And then I don't know what else that we were going to talk about.

10:52

I know that you were trying to watch the, the other JonBenet Ramsey thing.

10:56

Was there another documentary that you were, Yeah,

10:59

so I didn't want to spend a whole bunch of time on the Jon Benet Ramsey thing, just because we covered it.

11:03

So in depth, in the last episode and a million times, because we're just so invested, but I did watch the action Googled

11:11

her H the house last night, like I couldn't stop.

11:13

You did. Yeah. I went up for sale in 2008, 2009 and 2014.

11:18

There is someone living there and it's like completely remodeled.

11:23

But yeah, I was looking at, I was looking at the floor plan.

11:26

I wanted to tour it. I thought maybe it was like a thing, but someone lives there.

11:31

So Actually people send us messages of where you can do like an online tour of the house.

11:39

So maybe I can send you the link and see if it works.

11:43

Like I didn't look or anything. Cause it's just not something I wouldn't look, but that would probably freak me out.

11:49

But anyhow, yeah.

11:51

So did discovery plus did a documentary on JonBenet Ramsey too.

11:57

And over the weekend I told will.

12:00

I was like, Hey, can you put on discovery plus for me so I can watch the JonBenet Ramsey thing.

12:04

And he was like, I swear to you if I hear about this case one more time.

12:09

And I'm like, Oh wow, will you go back to your office?

12:13

Because if so, then I'm going to keep talking and talking about no, I'm just kidding.

12:17

But no, he was like, I swear, I can't listen to this anymore.

12:21

I can't watch this anymore.

12:23

You're obsessed. You're too invested, blah, blah, blah.

12:25

This is never going to get solved you and kill whack jobs and whatever.

12:31

Tell him to say it to my face. Yeah. Say it, say it to her face.

12:34

And then the sad thing is, is he probably would.

12:36

And then I

12:38

love you. We'll stop. Don't call me a whack job.

12:41

He, It

12:42

was like, Lindsay, this is ridiculous that you're making me pay four 99 a month just to get discovery plus so that you can watch this one documentary.

12:49

And so that brings me back to the point before I say about the documentary, we have literally like 19 streaming services and it proves your point of yes, you can cancel cable, but you're probably going to end up paying similar amount to have all the different streams, to be able to watch the different things.

13:08

And it's just hard when you see stuff being so followed like in the media or, you know, on Instagram and it's like this documentary coming out and whatever, and then you don't have the stream and it just is so easy to download it and get it that I'm like, Oh, wow.

13:26

You know, for four 99, it's basically like apps on your phone that you pay for except like on your TV.

13:32

And I'm all about it.

13:35

And kale is going to have all my logins and probably hacked me.

13:41

So I,

13:43

but I did watch the free Brittany movement on the New York times thing, which was on Hulu.

13:49

And I did use your login for that Before

13:53

we get into that, I just wanted to say that it was really interesting to me that the, the discovery plus documentary definitely more so followed the intruder conspiracy or theory, whatever you want to call it.

14:10

It definitely like followed more of that.

14:12

And a lot of things made, made sense to me, but I just can't get past like certain stuff.

14:18

Like we talked on the last episode and then also like more of the side following like the da and the grand jury and like all of that stuff.

14:30

So I did find that it was interesting and there was like different information, a lot of information, obviously recycled, but, but different information.

14:38

And following the one theory, like it was kind of sticking to that and eliminating it kept reiterating and eliminating the fact that it would have, would have, or could been the parents.

14:52

So yeah, I'm still sticking to, it was just, I,

14:58

I think about it a lot, probably more than an average person thinks about like a crime.

15:04

Like it's probably abnormal, but wow.

15:08

Yeah. A little bit. I don't, I can't get past.

15:12

And that's why, like, when people like in your regular life, when you think about like a lie that they've told or whatever, like certain things just don't add up, but you know, at the end of the day that they still lied, like, that's how I feel about like JonBenet's case.

15:27

Like I just feel like, yeah, there's a little bit of weird things that don't add up, but at the end of the day, like the parents still did it.

15:33

Well, the mom probably still did it.

15:35

I just can't get past the ransom note and I cannot get past the outfits not being changed.

15:43

And like, there's just like too many things where like, yes I can.

15:46

And I see how someone would come to the conclusion that maybe an intruder came in, but like the cobwebs and the window and stuff that we talked about last time.

15:53

Like I just, I can't, I can't bring myself to think anything else.

15:57

I just can't Me either.

15:59

So basically if you watch the discovery plus documentary, you will either now be convinced that it was an intruder or you will be like still too much evidence that is against that theory.

16:14

So anyhow, then kale texts me this weekend and she's like, you have to watch, what is it called?

16:22

I, it was, I thought it was like free Brittany.

16:25

I don't know it was on the New York times, like show they had a series and they focus, Oh, it's called framing, Brittany Spears.

16:32

It's called framing, Brittany spirits. It's a New York times series where they do a different episode each week.

16:39

And episode six was on the free Brittany Spears movement.

16:43

Yes. Well, with that being said, I then take a bath, kale texts me when I'm in the bath.

16:51

And I'm like, they didn't make me go down this rabbit hole where I'm like, okay, in my new house, I'm going to put a TV above my bathtub because I spent an enormous amount of time in the bath.

17:02

I could get like an hour show in while I'm also taking a bath and killed two birds with one stone.

17:08

Anyhow, not really important.

17:10

I get out and I turn on this, this documentary.

17:17

And honestly, I don't know this whole time I've gone back and forth on this, like, okay, free Brit free Brittany movement, whatever crazy.

17:29

This is just outlandish, whatever.

17:33

But then there's been times that I'm like, okay, there could be some validity to this.

17:37

And then after watching that documentary, to me, there is enough that draws the conclusion that there, like, I don't know if you would call it like foul play or whatever, But

17:52

yeah. Like abuse, conservatorship Abuse.

17:55

Yes. I believe that that is going on.

17:58

And I just can't get past the fact, if you are an adult that has earning potential, that can go to a job or jobs or, you know, whatever, I don't believe that you should be under that type of conservatorship.

18:21

I agree. I, and if you, if you watch the episode in the beginning, one of the first things, I think it was Felicia, which the whole time watching it was really like, I was ha it was like nostalgia.

18:33

Like I was like, Oh, wow. Like I remember as a child, like seeing pictures in magazines and in the little album, I'm like, remember those album things that they had in the CD case where you could take it out and like open it up.

18:45

And it was like 12 images, like a, like a little booklet magazines with Felicia and Brittany.

18:53

And I always, like, I knew who Felicia was too, because I was heavily in, like, I was invested like Brittany Spears, baby.

18:58

One more time. All of that.

18:59

So when they interviewed her, I think it was her that said one of the first things that Jamie spear said was my daughter is going to be so rich.

19:08

She's going to buy me a boat.

19:09

So that right there was a red flag for me because it was to me right off the bat.

19:15

Her dad was invested in the money in the dollar signs.

19:19

And so that was a huge turnoff and red flag.

19:22

And then later on, like if she, she, it stated in the documentary that she knew, at some point, I want to say it was after her first or her second son was born.

19:33

She knew that she wasn't going to be able to fight the conservatorship.

19:35

She knew that, but she said that she just didn't want her dad to be the one that is the conservator.

19:43

She just, that was the one thing that she asked for.

19:45

I will say, I don't understand to this day, even after watching the episode, I don't understand why her family like her mom, her sister, her brother, why they're not speaking out more on re on her behalf.

19:59

And then I know that Jamie Lynn Spears was getting a lot of shit for, she was the trustee of who, of her, her revokable trust or something like that.

20:10

I also have a rural workable trust, and I have a trustee and things like that.

20:13

I do not pay this person. That's not somebody that I pay.

20:16

It's someone who will have control of, you know, the money for wherever my kids are so that whoever, you know, if something were to happen to me, the person taking care of my kids could go to the trustee and say, Hey, you know, these are the expenses, you know, Isaac or Lincoln or Lux or creed, whatever the case may be.

20:34

You know, this is, these are the expenses.

20:37

Can I have X amount of dollars? And then the trustee would, would give them money.

20:40

Does that make sense? So I think there for people who don't know, like there's like an estate plan and things like that, I don't know why then Jamie Lynn removed herself.

20:51

And I know that she was trying to move money.

20:54

I want to say out of the conservatorship and out of Brittany's control to like move it out of her control.

21:02

I think something along those lines, but like, why are they, why are they not fighting?

21:06

Are speaking against Jamie Spears if they don't agree with it.

21:09

Because at one point in the, in the episode, it was like, Brittany's mom says something about like wanting to have some control over her daughter, you know, giving her some freedom and, and she wants to see her happy and things like that.

21:22

And then you turn around and then they're like holding hands, coming out of the courthouse.

21:26

Like, I don't understand.

21:27

There's a couple of things in the dynamic.

21:29

Okay, go ahead.

21:31

So

21:31

let's

21:31

back

21:31

up

21:31

a

21:31

little

21:35

bit. Okay.

21:35

None

21:35

of

21:35

us,

21:35

anyone

21:35

who's

21:35

listening,

21:35

probably

21:35

I

21:35

would

21:35

say

21:35

unless

21:35

you're

21:35

like

21:35

Kim

21:35

Kardashian,

21:35

but

21:35

definitely

21:35

us

21:35

can

21:35

not

21:35

relate

21:35

to

21:35

the

21:35

level

21:35

of

21:35

fame

21:35

that

21:35

she

21:35

experienced

21:35

as

21:35

she

21:35

experienced

21:53

it. Right. And I think that with that comes a lot of change.

21:59

She came from a small town, she blew up, she was performing in malls and then literally she was selling out concerts and arenas.

22:09

Like that's a lot of change to go through, definitely developmentally, but like from an emotional standpoint, a mental standpoint, and then to be having paparazzi following you and wanting to know your every move.

22:28

That's where I feel like it took a term, this the paparazzi and, and I media, the media really did her so dirty.

22:36

And that I think that they needed to focus more on that.

22:39

Like just the mental health aspect when you're constantly in interviews and seeing yourself in magazines being bashed and everything is negative.

22:46

And then to me, Justin Timberlake completely took advantage of the situation and, and played a part in that.

22:55

I think that that was the turning point.

22:59

The point that I want to make here is that none of us can relate to that level of fame and the mental warfare that she was going through when dealing with it.

23:14

And I think that it's very easy to sit back and say, and judge people that you see online, or, you know, an, a list celebrity or whatever, because I mean, I'm guilty of it.

23:27

I've used the Brittany Spears, umbrella, GIF, or Jif, whatever you want to call it, I've used it.

23:35

And now I feel completely horrible after watching that documentary because it's really predatory behavior.

23:40

And a lot of these things that people are going through, whether it be a custody battle or just general normal life things that are blown up to the max because of who they are.

23:53

And it's spread all over every tabloid that pictures of her were going for millions of dollars.

24:00

There was just so much that I, I could understand why someone, I can completely understand why she went off the, You

24:10

had a breaking point, Oh, I'll all a hundred P like I, and that was something that I was saying to you too, where like, when we were texting about it was, I can't understand.

24:19

We, neither of us can understand that magnitude of fame, but I've, I've experienced it on a very, a fraction of a fraction of her scale.

24:27

And it's like, I've hit my breaking point because of, of the things that have been said about me that are untrue and the things that have been blown about me that are untrue.

24:35

I can only, I can't even imagine what she was going through.

24:38

I mean, her, her custody stuff, you know, her breaking point with wanting to shave her head.

24:43

She doesn't have a good relationship with her dad and he's wanting to take control of her life.

24:46

Like I cannot imagine people using her fame against her, like what bruh, Justin Timberlake did and just all of it.

24:56

And then her dad wants to turn around and have a conservatorship, but then she's able to do four more albums, four more tours she's able to do what was the documentary that MTV released, where she talks about the conservatorship.

25:10

It was behind the scenes or something like Brittany spheres behind the scenes or something.

25:17

Yeah. Well, Oh, also before I forget about this point I wanted to make is that when, when there's a lot of money that is involved and people around you haven't seen it.

25:33

I

25:33

think

25:33

that

25:33

that,

25:33

and,

25:33

and

25:33

people

25:33

would

25:33

have

25:33

an

25:33

agenda

25:33

and

25:33

easily

25:33

be

25:33

able

25:33

to,

25:33

like

25:33

in

25:33

her

25:33

dad's

25:33

case

25:33

easily

25:33

be

25:33

able

25:33

to

25:33

prove

25:33

she

25:33

is

25:48

crazy. She is incompetent.

25:51

She is not capable.

25:52

She is a detriment to herself or to society.

25:58

There

25:58

was

25:58

a

25:58

enough

25:58

agenda,

25:58

financial

25:58

agenda

25:58

behind

26:05

it. And I can't get over the fact of the boat, you know, and then him trying to press this conservatorship to use that as leverage, to control all of her finances, that would be a really sad life kill.

26:19

I think, I think though, on the documentary and correct me if I'm wrong, I think she gets either one or one and a half percent of her earnings.

26:27

And that's like her allowance.

26:30

And I'm sure the, if you heard from the other side, it would be, Oh, she gets one and a half percent of her earnings because anything more would a detriment to herself or whatever.

26:45

Nowhere in that documentary, did it prove that by her having access to more money, that, that caused the problems?

26:54

What it showed to me was that her not having the protection that she should have needed when it came to paparazzi, when it came to the rising fame, that was the issue.

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I think she, She had more, a little bit more guidance.

30:56

I mean, that was the peak of, I feel like paparazzi and like really selling someone's struggles for profit.

31:03

You know what I mean? Like that was really when first.

31:06

Sure. And can you imagine kale, someone like a Joe, Joe seawall or Selena Gomez or whatever, going into an interview like Brittany was interviewed and these male correspondents or Reporters

31:23

about her virginity, Can

31:26

you imagine in today's time if that happened?

31:30

Oh my God, no, I would be I, no, no, not now.

31:34

Not today. No people are advocate advocating for, for, for those things to not happen.

31:41

Now they didn't, Brittany didn't have that.

31:42

And there was an interview where Justin Timberlake got on the radio and they flat out, asked him, did you fuck Britney Spears?

31:50

And he like, doesn't know how to ask.

31:51

And he doesn't defend her and he doesn't, you know what I mean?

31:54

And he went at that time, he was just coming off of, you know, in sync and trying to get his solo career off the ground and took advantage of someone so vulnerable in such a, and I don't think that anyone put two and two together at the time.

32:09

And obviously we didn't either because we all use the Brittany Spears, Jeff, and, you know, literally said I was, I was gonna pull hot polar Britney Spears and shaved my own head off at the worst time of my life.

32:20

You know what I mean? And, and nobody put two and two together.

32:22

It's just so fucking heartbreaking.

32:24

And you know, what's even worse is that, I guess it was last year when I was going on her Instagram, like what the fuck is going on with Brittany?

32:32

Like her Instagram is like, she's just not herself.

32:35

It's like, she's I don't. And I'm, this is an assumption.

32:37

And what is the word?

32:40

Not an assumption, an observation that her Instagram is just like, I don't know if she's medicated, if her mental health has just deteriorated that much.

32:50

But I went on that was last year when I was like, what the fuck is going on?

32:54

And then this year yesterday, I went on her Instagram and she has a video on her feed of kinetic sand.

33:04

Okay. And it's, she has it in a ball and she puts her finger in it.

33:07

And then it like, kind of like falls apart.

33:09

And the caption is I do this about two hours a day.

33:12

I'm

33:12

sad

33:12

for

33:17

her. Like, I'm, I feel horrible.

33:19

I feel like when you're think about the people in, like in a mental health hospital that are just being medicated and they're not actually being helped.

33:29

Do you know what I mean? Remember when we had the episode of Rachel, where she went to Provo Canyon, Canyon school, and she said that they don't even, like, they don't even give her real therapy and help.

33:40

They literally just drugged her. Like they just gave her meds.

33:43

But I think that that is society today, But

33:46

that's not like Brittany is, if she's capable, she's she refused to work until her dad was removed from the conservatorship conservator, which speaks fucking volumes.

33:56

Like she's not asking for much, she's saying that she it's.

33:59

Okay. Well, I'm not saying she said it's okay, but she understood that she couldn't fight it.

34:03

She couldn't go against it. She's willing to work and to continue making money because she's obviously fucking capable.

34:09

But then to see, to know that, and then to hear that she's like basically confined to her own house most of the time.

34:16

And then she's playing with kinetic sand for two hours a day, and then she posts about it.

34:20

Like, there's something wrong there There's

34:23

something very wrong. And I want to join like the, the free Brittany movement, because something is very wrong.

34:31

And I feel like as a, as a woman that we do have a voice and we can speak up that it's it's wrong.

34:40

And there needs to be more awareness around that.

34:46

And the mental health aspect, just in general, people do not understand.

34:50

And we can't understand to like an alias level, how, you know, how she is, but the mental toll that it takes on a human being and why someone who has ever had any form of fame or notoriety or whatever you want to call it probably has signed themselves up for a lifetime of therapy and problems that have come from that.

35:17

I

35:17

think

35:17

that

35:17

that's

35:17

a

35:17

very

35:17

important

35:17

point

35:17

to

35:17

make

35:17

that

35:17

she,

35:17

no

35:17

matter

35:17

if

35:17

her

35:17

conservatorship

35:17

ever

35:17

gets

35:17

turned

35:17

over

35:17

or

35:17

whatever,

35:17

because

35:17

of

35:17

what

35:17

she

35:17

faced

35:17

with

35:17

the

35:17

media

35:17

tabloids

35:17

just

35:17

general

35:17

public,

35:17

the

35:17

people

35:17

in

35:17

the

35:17

business,

35:17

like

35:17

Justin

35:17

Timberlake,

35:17

those

35:17

types

35:17

of

35:17

things

35:17

she

35:17

is

35:17

going

35:17

to

35:17

struggle

35:17

with

35:17

and

35:17

have

35:17

repercussions

35:17

from

35:17

that

35:17

stuff

35:17

for

35:17

the

35:17

rest

35:17

of

35:17

her

35:51

life.

35:53

I, I could not, I still can't wrap my head around watching interviews of her as a young girl and a young woman to now her Instagram, like the videos of her on her Instagram, you know what I mean?

36:07

Like the comparison of who she was and who she is today.

36:11

And I don't blame her one bit.

36:14

Like I don't, none of this was her fault, in my opinion, Like

36:18

her voice completely change.

36:21

Let her face everything about her space, her face, everything that she said, like, even the video that she just posted about the Superbowl, like, she's not the same.

36:30

Like it's, I just, it's so fucking, it's heartbreaking.

36:35

Like, and we don't even know her. Imagine the people that are close to her and do they see it the same way that we do?

36:40

Is it on a greater scale or a lesser scale?

36:43

Or do they think, Oh, that's just Brittany. You know what I mean?

36:45

Where it's like, no, that's not just Brittany.

36:47

That's what the fucking public and everyone around her did to her because nobody knew how to handle what she was going through.

36:54

And To

36:56

that point, though, you said that you don't understand why other people in her family, like isn't speaking up, like her sister, her mom, whatever, this is just a complete speculation.

37:07

My thoughts on that were I'm wondering if her estate or business has some type of like gag order or a non-disclosure to where no one in the family can speak on the issues regarding Brittany publicly.

37:34

Yeah. I mean, that definitely makes sense, but definitely makes sense.

37:36

It just, I guess it, it just sucks from, I

37:42

mean, it sucks from, from Perspective.

37:44

I can imagine it sucks for that, like their heart justice heart.

37:48

Yeah, you're right. It's just, And

37:52

though, from other situations that I think a lot of people that are, I'm trying to figure out how to say this properly without divulging too much.

38:12

I

38:12

think

38:12

that

38:12

when

38:12

you

38:12

are

38:12

media

38:12

followed

38:12

and

38:12

that

38:12

there

38:12

is

38:12

an

38:12

agenda

38:12

to

38:12

be

38:12

pressed

38:12

or

38:12

whatever,

38:12

that

38:12

if

38:12

other

38:12

people

38:12

have

38:12

a

38:12

benefit

38:12

in

38:12

this

38:12

situation,

38:12

they

38:12

might

38:12

be

38:12

less

38:12

likely

38:12

to

38:12

speak

38:12

knowing

38:12

that

38:12

there

38:12

could

38:12

be

38:12

ramifications

38:12

against

38:12

them

38:12

financially

38:12

or

38:43

whatever. So they're going to take the financial benefit versus doing the right thing.

38:50

Does that make sense? Okay. Yes.

38:52

Okay. So in that way, there may or may not be money involved.

38:58

Yes. Cause I know that Jamie Lynn was saying that she hasn't received a dime from her sister and, and I'm not here to decide whether she has her, she hasn't, but that was one thing, you know, she basically said that she, you know, believes in her sister and that nobody has room to talk about it and you know, you're right.

39:17

She, she may very well just not be able to, and, you know, it's, it sucks, but I mean, maybe it's in the best interest.

39:23

I don't know. It's just, it's so heartbreaking to see from just a fan's perspective.

39:28

And I, I, I hope that people aren't like in her family saying, you know, all that's just Brittany or, you know, I'm just going off of the interviews.

39:37

I've seen of her as a young woman and a young girl versus Instagram posts now are I can't like, I it's so sad and it feels like a mystery.

39:49

Like it's like an eerie, weird mystery.

39:52

And it's fucking heartbreaking.

39:55

I also just wonder, this is, this is truly just like a question.

39:59

I

39:59

wonder

39:59

if

39:59

a

39:59

little

39:59

bit

39:59

of

39:59

North

39:59

and

39:59

South

39:59

comes

39:59

into

39:59

play

39:59

in

39:59

this

39:59

situation

39:59

because

39:59

dads

39:59

to

39:59

me

39:59

and

39:59

the

39:59

South

39:59

are

39:59

very

39:59

controlling

39:59

in

40:14

general. Like the, and especially with her Of

40:20

a man, like taking care of the family and having the final say and things like that, is that what you mean?

40:27

Yeah. And especially when it comes to their daughters and stuff.

40:30

And so I just wonder if part of the upbringing of where they're from, would it, you know, being from the South has anything to do to do with it.

40:44

Like maybe her dad is like a very controlling Southern man.

40:47

And like, I do think that men in the South, and this could just be a complete stereotype that I'm saying, but I do, I tend to find men or dads and the South being a lot crazier than people or dads from the North.

41:09

I

41:09

don't

41:12

know. You brought up the point that if that was a situation with your kids or whatever, that you would hope that one of your boys or your boys would be able to speak out, like if they wanted to.

41:23

And yes, I agree with you, but also you're not like a controlling narcissistic asshole.

41:35

Oh, I'm not.

41:36

Cause there's rumors that I am so, okay.

41:40

I'm glad that the rumors are that, But

41:45

just from knowing you personally, that couldn't be further from, from the truth.

41:51

So I think that you can make that you have that perspective because you aren't that, does that make sense?

41:58

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I just think the whole thing is so sad and I, I, I hope that everyone that's close to Brittany is really doing everything they can.

42:06

Cause I can't imagine, you know, feeling, I, I just, I cannot, I don't even want to say too much cause I don't want to say the wrong thing.

42:13

You know what I mean? Like I don't want to say something that is going to make it more like, are we contributing to the struggle, the struggles that she's facing right now by talking about it, like, I don't even want to do more D you know what I mean?

42:27

So I just, I want to be careful with the things that I say in the way that I word things.

42:30

Cause I don't want to say anything that could potentially cause her more harm.

42:35

Not that she cares about this fucking podcast.

42:39

You're definitely not listening to this, but I'm just saying like, I

42:43

feel horrible first, But please Brittany do listen to us also.

42:48

Yeah. Moving on from this though.

42:51

I have to tell you something that is so freaking funny.

42:54

The pictures that I got in my DMS from last week of people, would their kids with their clothes looking insane coming from like a custody exchange or whatever it's called.

43:10

Like what do y'all call that?

43:11

Not a custody exchange or is that like, yeah.

43:15

Yeah. Oh, okay. So like that or kids coming back from their grandparents, it's like the blue jeans are ripped.

43:21

There's like mud everywhere.

43:22

They might be wearing two different shoes.

43:25

Like the pictures that I got were so fricking funny.

43:29

That's so funny. I love that.

43:31

I definitely, I think I want them to look nice.

43:35

We talked about this. I wanted them to look nice, but I it's so funny if you've, if you've ever been on Tik TOK and you see the videos, it's like how my mother-in-law dresses, my kid and how I dress her or how my husband or my ex dress is my kid and how I dress him.

43:50

It's like literally two different words.

43:54

That's so it's so funny to me because I can't relate in the fact of like a custody exchange or anything like that.

44:02

However, when I get pictures, like for example, if we're traveling for the podcast or something and we're together and I get a picture of Jackson and what he's wearing, I'm like, where did those clothes even come from?

44:13

Like, I've never seen them.

44:15

Like, we're going to we'll find them Like

44:17

having him, you know, taking them out to lunch in the ugliest outfit.

44:21

Yes. And it drives me nuts, but I'm just like, okay, that's just a battle that I'm not going to fight because he's taking care of him.

44:28

He's fed.

44:29

He might not be like Wayne Jackson.

44:32

Think about it. Does he like the outfit? Does he not care?

44:35

Like does he, Oh

44:37

gosh. So the other day I went to Lake Jackson's clothes out for school and I went into his bathroom and there was like this weird outfit in there.

44:46

And I was just like, what is going on?

44:48

Like hoop Here.

44:50

And it was just like Jeans

44:52

that I had never seen before. And Jackson doesn't really like jeans.

44:56

And I don't know if anyone else's kids are like, this Hates

45:00

them. Isaac, Isaac and Lincoln bolt hate jeans.

45:03

Okay. So they only want to wear joggers all the time.

45:06

I'm assuming? Yes. All the time. Yes. All the time.

45:08

Same. So there are blue jeans in there and I'm like, first of all, where did these even come from?

45:16

And Will's like notorious for going to Goodwill and like buying stuff and not telling me not like clothes for Jackson or anything like that.

45:25

But he might, like, I might find a little like knickknack and the garage or something.

45:30

And it's because Wilson to Goodwill's in my mind, I'm thinking, why made me do that?

45:35

No.

45:38

What kind of knickknacks is he getting from Goodwill and why are they in the garage There

45:43

in the garage? Because he knows that I'm going to be like, why are you bringing junk into the house?

45:47

Like I take things to Goodwill and he brings things home from Goodwill.

45:50

Well,

45:50

I

45:50

don't

45:50

want

45:50

to

45:50

know

45:50

what

45:50

he's

45:50

buying

45:55

Like golf clubs.

45:57

Okay. I've got a funny story about that actually. But anyway, the blue jeans were laying in there and then there was like this shirt that was too small.

46:03

It was like an under Armour shirt that was like a dry fit shirt.

46:07

And it had like American flag or something on the front, definitely something that you would wear like in the summertime.

46:12

First of all, it was short sleeves and it was just like, okay, a dry fit under Armour shirt really doesn't go with these blue jeans.

46:20

Like it's a two totally different looks trying to be put together.

46:23

So either Jackson did this, which I don't believe because he doesn't like blue jeans or have no idea why we'll do this.

46:31

So

46:31

I

46:31

went

46:34

Like put the stuff back on his dresser and got out an actual outfit and put it in his bathroom.

46:38

And Jackson thinks it's so funny whenever I like start going in on will about his lack of fashion.

46:47

Wait, Jackson laughs about it. Oh, Like

46:50

hysterically, because I'll be like, you have no fashion sense.

46:53

Like, I don't know who told you that this goes together.

46:56

Like this looks terrible.

46:57

Where did these things even come from?

46:59

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47:08

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Tell you the story though, about Goodwill. So will told me that he went to Goodwill like a couple of weeks ago and that he found this golf club and he was like, Oh, like, I can repurpose this and like, make it nice.

49:17

And whatever Golf

49:20

club, like for golfing or for something.

49:23

Yeah. Unsure to be honest, like he said, the golf now, like not really like, so what The

49:29

fuck are you repurposing a golf club with?

49:31

I don't know. I think it's truly to see if he can do it, like to see if he can like re grip it, like, like He

49:39

wanted to do a project. Okay.

49:42

Okay. But this gets good. So then I like go in my basement and I find fingernail Polish down there that like doesn't belong to me.

49:52

So I'm like, who's is this and like, I didn't want to start asking questions because you know, sometimes when you start asking questions, you get answers that you don't want.

50:03

So sometimes it's just like best not to go there.

50:06

Yeah. But it was like a white fingernail Polish, a red fingernail, Polish, and a blue fingernail Polish.

50:11

And I was like, okay, clearly it looks like somebody who was painting their nails for the 4th of July, but definitely not.

50:18

And these were ones that looked like they were maybe like dollar store brand or something.

50:23

So it was like, okay, this definitely looks like something will Bob, but why would he be buying Polish?

50:27

Like I have so many questions.

50:29

So then he goes to Goodwill and he bought this golf club and then he bought some kind of like, like re grip stuff so that he could like regroup it.

50:39

Well then apparently he got into an altercation with like some workers at Goodwill.

50:47

Okay. Supposedly We'll

50:50

knows like when they put stuff out and when they don't and why.

50:56

Okay. And so he said, I know that they just like got a whole thing of golf clubs, but they just put like one out and whenever it gets gone, they'll go and put the other one out until like, so they always have a golf club or something.

51:10

And I'm like, well, that's just like a weird theory, but like whatever.

51:12

So will says he gets in trouble because he walked in the back of Goodwill.

51:17

Can you imagine this?

51:20

It's like six foot, four guy walking back to the stock room of Goodwill.

51:25

Oh

51:25

my

51:27

God. And I'm like, what? In the actual house Hell

51:29

is like going on.

51:30

So he says that the people like start yelling at him and stuff saying that he can't be back there.

51:35

And he was like, well, I know that there's like the other golf clubs back here or whatever.

51:39

So I want to be able to get them.

51:41

And the guy was like, well, we put stuff out whenever we get it.

51:44

And we'll was like, no, like you definitely didn't, there's more golf clubs back here.

51:49

And I want to get them. And we'll was like, I'm pretty sure they just wanted to keep them for themselves.

51:55

Like they probably the people who work at Goodwill probably see the good stuff come in and they just keep it and like, they don't put it out.

52:01

And I'm like, first of all, the fact that you're arguing with people who work at Goodwill and like the stock people at Goodwill, I'm pretty sure they don't have any investment.

52:10

And like what's coming in there. First of all, secondly, again, same question that you have.

52:16

Why is, will buying golf clubs?

52:17

Third, the fingernail Polish was for when he was like redoing these golf clubs on the like part where you hit it'll have like a brand or whatever, and they have like a color on there.

52:32

And so he was painting.

52:39

Can you imagine this?

52:41

No. Y w there's other paint to use?

52:45

Why was he using nail Polish dollar store?

52:48

Now, first of all, I have so many questions that I really want to get him on the podcast.

52:54

Like I want to know how he got invested in Goodwill.

52:57

I want to know how often he goes.

52:59

I want to know what kinds of things he buys or where he looks for.

53:03

I

53:03

just,

53:03

I

53:03

have

53:03

a

53:03

lot

53:03

of

53:07

questions. He says that they have like a lot of stuff, a lot of like really good stuff.

53:12

Oh, I know plenty of people that get like really, really good stuff at Goodwill.

53:15

Like, I'm, I don't doubt it, but like what, what does we'll look for?

53:21

But I'm not that type of shopper, you know what I mean? Like I couldn't go into Goodwill and like, Oh yeah, I can make that into a gym.

53:28

Well, right. Like, we're just like, not those types of like, I, I'm not, I'm not creative in that way.

53:32

Like, I, I went through a phase where I was wanting to like go to what Goodwill and like repurpose furniture.

53:37

And then I realized I was horrible at it and I just didn't stay better.

53:43

We all been through that phase. I wonder how many people who are listening to this have also been through that phase and then realize like, okay, this is just not for me.

53:50

Like totally not for me.

53:51

I hope, I hope I'm not the only one.

53:54

Well, I know for a fact, you're not because I also was that person.

53:58

I was thinking I was going to be a repurposer that I was going to, you know, like make all these gyms and I did nothing, but fuck everything up.

54:05

So that's what happened there.

54:10

I always, Oh, and then like, occasionally I'll see, will wearing like something that I've never seen before.

54:18

And I'm like, that's interesting.

54:20

Like where did you get that?

54:24

And he literally like sneaks It

54:26

in the laundry somehow. And I don't know, and it gets washed and it came from Goodwill And

54:31

I'm like, He

54:34

goes all the time, kill. I swear to you, like, this is like in his free time.

54:37

And he has it.

54:45

I'm just like, Literally I could probably be going to the gym, no lie.

54:49

And this man would be like, I could pass by Goodwill and probably find his truck there at any given time.

54:56

So does he take Jackson ever on the absolutely actually Jackson, the biggest accident that Jackson's ever had?

55:03

He bust his chin open at Goodwill because will, was letting him play with like ride on toys at Goodwill.

55:11

And I'm like Goodwill people that like work there regularly when they see you guys coming, they probably are like, Oh fuck.

55:19

Oh,

55:19

I

55:21

bet. Can you imagine like, will it is not, it is not rare for him to want to wake up early on a Saturday morning, take Jackson to Bojangles and get breakfast.

55:33

And then the Jangles, what does that, do you guys have that?

55:37

No, I don't like it, but it's kind of like, do y'all have Popeye's chicken Popeye's okay.

55:44

So Bojangles is kind of like Louie Louisiana style.

55:47

I think it is, but they have breakfast biscuits and like stuff like that and fried chicken.

55:54

And so they go there. Sometimes Jackson actually hates it, but will loves it.

55:59

So they'll sometimes do that like really early on a Saturday morning and then just like go and sit in the Goodwill parking lot until freaking Goodwill opens shut up.

56:07

I'm not making it up. And I'm just like, Oh my God, like, Can

56:11

you give Jackson like a GoPro or something to document one of their trips to Goodwill?

56:17

Oh yeah. He would actually, I need to see this.

56:21

Like I, I just need to see like what they, what catches their eye, like what they're interested in, how many things, like, I just have so many questions.

56:29

Like I I'm so interested How

56:33

many people that are listening to this are like all time thrifter hours.

56:37

Cause I think that that is I

56:39

envy people who are me to fucking thrift or is that fine?

56:42

Good shit like that go.

56:44

I don't know that I, I'm not a person that can like look through things.

56:48

Like I just don't like to do. I don't even like to go shopping in a regular store.

56:51

That's organized.

56:51

And like w w all of those things, like, I just don't want to go shopping.

56:56

I'm not a shopper. Like, if I was good at it, I would do it.

57:00

Yeah. I've just, but I'm not like I'm not going to look through things and like, do all of that, but I've seen people get some really good stuff at Goodwill.

57:09

Like what, like what kind of things probably better than golf clubs.

57:12

I'm sure. So I actually saw, I watched, I follow this girl on Tik TOK and she's planning her wedding and she found she's buying all of her girls, bridesmaids, dresses, but she found, and she tries all of them on.

57:27

And like, she has like a holistic that she's going with.

57:30

And she like updates everyone. And she found one of her dresses for $4 at Goodwill.

57:34

And it's actually really, really pretty. I'll send you the video.

57:36

Oh my God. I need video evidence of this.

57:39

And I need everyone to write into us and tell us, like, if you're an ultimate thrifter, if your husband is like an avid Goodwill shopper, and then I'll determine if I'm just married to a psycho or like a normal person moving on, moving on from that.

57:59

Okay. Since we are so into like American crimes and whatever, I did see this crazy thing.

58:07

And I just have to get all of y'all's perspective on this, because I feel a type of way about it.

58:13

So I don't know if you saw that Casey Anthony was going to be doing a documentary about her daughter's death.

58:23

Yes. And it said that she will be an executive producer and they're calling it like an authorized documentary and it will cause an authorized documentary unsure.

58:35

But

58:35

it

58:35

basically

58:35

said

58:35

that

58:35

she

58:35

will

58:35

offer

58:35

her

58:35

viewpoint

58:35

of

58:35

the

58:35

gruesome

58:35

death

58:35

of

58:35

her

58:35

two

58:35

year

58:35

old

58:45

Caylee. And the co-executive producer was saying that she's finally ready to like clear her name, bring justice and shed like a different light.

58:59

And that producer other producers on the show are quoted saying that many of the revelations will be shocking.

59:08

So a couple of things on this, if she is an executive producer of this there's financial benefit for her to do this.

59:18

Correct. And so I have a really hard on people like who I would say that I feel have committed crimes that are so gruesome, like this to pad their pockets benefit.

59:38

Yes. By watching it. But also it's something that I want to cover.

59:40

So like how, Oh, a hundred percent.

59:42

I don't know. And that's so hard.

59:44

Cause I totally hear you. It's like OJ Simpson's book.

59:47

If I had done it, this is what I would have done kind of thing.

59:49

We all know, Oh, Jay fucking did it.

59:52

There's no other fucking explanation. But yet here we are reading his goddamn book and supporting him and filling his pockets.

59:57

I, I hear you must acquit.

1:00:02

Yeah. No, but it, it, he, he did it and I don't, you can't convince me otherwise.

1:00:07

So I, the same thing, like I'm highly invested and I need to watch, I need to watch this documentary, but also don't want to give her, I

1:00:20

just feel like it's one of those things that if you watch it, you're silently supporting it.

1:00:29

Yeah. Right. Like, but also I want to watch it because I followed the case so heavily.

1:00:36

Yeah. Same. That it would be not natural for me not to watch it.

1:00:41

Even though my standpoint is I don't want her to financially benefit from any of this.

1:00:45

And I find it to be sickening.

1:00:48

I would really like to know how much she's making to do this documentary.

1:00:51

Because I feel if you want to clear your name and you really didn't do it and you, you know, there's so, so many shocking revelations, then you should be willing to do it without being, finding, having financial gain.

1:01:05

I agree. I definitely agree. Or there's just between her OJ Simpson and Patsy Ramsey.

1:01:14

Like they all, I don't know.

1:01:17

I can't, but you're right. I mean, it wouldn't, I I'm going to watch it and that's, it sucks.

1:01:22

It sucks when you're like between a rock and a hard place.

1:01:24

Like you want to know what she's going to say to potentially clear her name, but at the end, I don't think that anything, she says, whatever revelations, you know, they think are going to sway us.

1:01:35

There's no way that I would, I'm going to be swayed.

1:01:39

There's also no way that I'm going to be swayed, but also I'm going to watch it.

1:01:44

I just want to know, Was

1:01:46

the air and was it on Netflix or what is it on?

1:01:49

So if it's, if they've released an air date or anything like that, I can do some more research.

1:01:55

Yeah. I did read something about it. And I want to say maybe it was on like an advertisement somewhere.

1:02:00

I don't remember where I saw it or when I saw it was recently, but I did see that.

1:02:04

And I was like, what the hell? Like what the, I didn't know that she was going to be an executive producer.

1:02:08

I thought she was going to be interviewed. I mean, how does this woman live?

1:02:11

Where does she live? How is she living?

1:02:13

Did she change her name? Like, I mean, I know that people tried to kill her after she was acquitted or whatever, but like, how do you live after that?

1:02:23

Like where do you, how do you live a normal life?

1:02:26

That's why I'm so interested in just seeing what she has.

1:02:29

Not that I really care what she has to say.

1:02:31

I just want to hear what she has to say, because I think it's something I say it's like important to my life.

1:02:37

I have watched so much of everything of that story, like unfold and just followed it so heavily that it would be really weird for me not to watch it.

1:02:47

So I just want to know like how other people feel about that, you know, is it, is it silently supporting, is it being informed?

1:02:56

Like, is it, what, what do you consider it?

1:03:00

Because I'm a little bit conflicted on it.

1:03:02

But then in other news, probably the last thing that we have time for today is a question for you.

1:03:09

Kale, someone wrote in and said, I'm curious how each of you feel about gender selection.

1:03:15

I have two daughters and would love to have a son, but I'm wondering what you feel about it morally, financially and ethically.

1:03:21

I've gotten a lot of pushback from my family when spoken about it, but there is no guarantee as we all know that even three or four more children would give me a boy as much as I love my girls.

1:03:30

I'm not sure I can be six kids, deep waiting for a little guy to join our family.

1:03:35

I would love your feedback and thoughts.

1:03:37

Thanks so much. I don't have many friends working multiple jobs and as a mom with very young kids and love that, I feel that I have girlfriends listening to your podcast.

1:03:46

So I

1:03:49

have a lot to say about this. And it's crazy that someone asked that after I told you what I'm doing, Lindsay.

1:03:54

So as everyone that listens to this knows I have four boys.

1:04:01

I made an appointment for March 9th where I'm going, that's my initial appointment to go through the process, to have my eggs frozen.

1:04:11

And that being said, when if, if, and when the time comes, you know, if I want to get married later on or have another child later on, you know, that would be the way that I want to do it.

1:04:28

Just because I don't know what type of health I'll be in at that point, or if I'll be able to conceive naturally, because I've had trouble in the past.

1:04:34

And you know, some things with my heavy periods have led me to go in this direction.

1:04:40

And

1:04:40

I

1:04:40

was

1:04:40

informed

1:04:40

by

1:04:44

Lindsay. And just knowing that I would be able to essentially pick the genders based on the healthiest embryos.

1:04:49

I, why wouldn't I do gender selection?

1:04:52

You know what I mean? Like why wouldn't, I, I don't care what people would have to say about it.

1:04:58

I don't care if they fail to me. I don't think there's ethically anything wrong with it.

1:05:02

I don't think there's anything morally wrong with it.

1:05:03

I think that the people that are feeling like it's, you know, not what God chose or whatever.

1:05:10

I mean, I'm sure there are a ton of things in the, in their lives that God didn't wouldn't have chosen for them.

1:05:15

But they, you sin differently than you.

1:05:18

I just, I feel like you should not consider anyone else's opinion on this.

1:05:21

This is something that is up to you and only you and your doctor.

1:05:24

And I personally don't see anything wrong with it.

1:05:28

I don't see anything ethically wrong with it.

1:05:29

I don't.

1:05:30

How

1:05:30

do

1:05:30

you

1:05:30

feel

1:05:32

Lindsay? Like, I don't know what more I can say if, you know, if, if they, if they come back to me, you know, in five years, 10 years, if I wanna have another child and they tell me, Oh, you have two healthy girl embryos and two healthy boys.

1:05:46

Which ones do you think I'm going to pick?

1:05:48

Well, right, because I'm gonna pick the girl ones.

1:05:52

And my point to you, I didn't know if you were going to share that information.

1:05:56

So I didn't want to like say anything, but when you crave so much to have a girl, it would be when you're already going through that whole process already it's to me, I see why people say that ethically, you shouldn't do gender selection because of your religious beliefs, whatever.

1:06:21

However, I have some people that are very close to me who have gone through IVF and who did do gender selection.

1:06:31

And I don't think any differently of them.

1:06:35

And quite honestly, you're going through a science process anyway.

1:06:39

It's not a natural process.

1:06:40

And so for that reason alone, I think that just negates the whole argument of if it's wrong or right.

1:06:49

I think that The

1:06:51

alternative you're going to keep trying to have kids until you have a girl.

1:06:54

And then you have three kids that you essentially, I'm not saying that you didn't want them or that they don't, you don't love them.

1:06:59

But that would be like me.

1:07:01

You know, I want to have a girl so bad that I'm willing to have six kids to get to the seventh child.

1:07:07

That's finally a girl. I mean, what's the alternative to me.

1:07:10

I feel like, why not just go through the process to pick the girl?

1:07:16

And then I don't bring three Other

1:07:18

children into this world by drying.

1:07:23

Right? So to me, which one is more, do you know what I'm saying?

1:07:26

Like we live in a generation where it's, it's scientifically possible to go through a process, to have a baby that you didn't quote unquote, naturally conceive.

1:07:35

So if you have that also ability to choose the gender, why I just don't see why you wouldn't.

1:07:41

So I feel like at the end of the day, you're the one feeding your kids, not your, mother-in-law not your mother-in-law's cousins, brothers, sisters, boyfriend.

1:07:48

Like none of these people are feeding your kids and you're taking care of them.

1:07:53

You're living with them. You have to raise them.

1:07:54

And while they are a part of that, they're not the ones that are there day in and day out.

1:07:59

So do what you want and what makes you happy.

1:08:01

That's how I feel. I mean, at the end of the day, we're all going, we're all your mother-in-law or whoever your mom, your sister, they're all going to do what they want to do with their families.

1:08:10

And, you know, maybe stop offering your opinion on their life and maybe they'll do they'll suit and stop offering opinion on yours.

1:08:16

I don't know. I won or maybe just don't fucking tell them how about that.

1:08:20

Yeah, I was. And I don't, I'm not saying it to be, I'm not saying it in a bitchy way.

1:08:24

It's like, okay, if you want to have negative opinions about every single thing I'm doing, I just, I'm not telling you anything anymore.

1:08:31

I think that's like the motto for 2021 is just like, don't tell anybody anything and just do what makes you feel happy and complete and whatever, because to be perfectly honest, I don't really feel like any man, any other woman, any, whatever should have any control of what a woman does with her body and what dishes, what decisions that she makes.

1:08:59

And I think that, like I said, you're already going through a scientific process anyway, and that's just a perk of it.

1:09:07

And so, you know, with that being said, you know, then you run into the, okay, well obviously somebody is choosing, right?

1:09:17

Because if you're going through the IVF process anyway, a doctor's not going to choose to implant an unhealthy embryo.

1:09:24

So there's already a selection process and there to begin with.

1:09:30

So to me, it's not that big of a deal.

1:09:32

And I just think, I think it's so insane that we have access to science and that way that, that can be chosen.

1:09:44

Yeah. Like it didn't say Such

1:09:46

a good point. You're already going through the scientific process.

1:09:49

Like, I don't know, pick one friend that you're, you're able to, you're able to trust and, and doesn't judge you and you feel safe with and let you know, because you always need that one person that you can talk to about certain things, pick that one person you trust or right into our podcast so we can discuss it for you.

1:10:06

And then just don't tell the other people the rest.

1:10:08

Cause that's your, that's your choice.

1:10:10

I'm your prerogative. And I support, I

1:10:13

also support. So anyhow, well, what are you doing for the rest of the day?

1:10:16

Anything fun.

1:10:19

I'm filming a scene and then I'm gonna take my dog to the vet at three o'clock.

1:10:25

So that's fun. I feel like nothing's wrong with him?

1:10:27

Just to check Always at the vet at the doctor, at the barbershop, at the dentist, the dentist don't rheumatologists.

1:10:37

Like does it ever end?

1:10:40

No, never, never, never.

1:10:43

Oh. Oh. I also just wanted to say that I don't have Frank pants in my bushes anymore and my house is complete and it feels so good.

1:10:55

Yes. Oh my God. It feels so good.

1:10:57

I spent the whole day cleaning yesterday and just like getting all of my stuff in order I put together gift bags for something that we have coming up for coffee combos and just like, yes, it felt so good to just like have my stuff in a place.

1:11:11

But anyway.

1:11:14

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1:11:16

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Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode

0:09

of Comcast podcast. Good

0:12

morning. Good morning. I have

0:15

I'm I know it sounds like I may or

0:17

may not be on crack, but I'm actually

0:19

just on coffee. Yeah. And

0:22

I'm not really excited about the coffee

0:24

conversation we're about have because I

0:27

got Wawa Coffee, which I haven't had in forever,

0:30

and my lid wouldn't stay on. So I kept, like,

0:32

almost Will's it the entire

0:35

time. I was drinking it. That

0:37

is really unfortunate. You know, I hate does my voice sound like a boy right You know, I hate Does

0:40

my voice sound like a boy right now? No.

0:43

But it sounds a little, like, Are

0:45

you sick? Do you have Rona? No.

0:47

Stop spreading rumors. No.

0:53

I didn't anything to drink this morning until,

0:55

like, a few minutes ago. And so

0:57

maybe my throat just

1:00

dries and sounding a little boyish. But

1:03

Right. -- anyhow, back to the coffee, it's

1:05

very unfortunate when situations

1:08

like that happen. You know, like, when things just go

1:10

wrong? Yeah. Yeah. One hundred

1:12

percent. Like, we know what else went wrong this morning.

1:15

I had bought Buddha a new bed.

1:17

He's the the I was gonna call him McQueen, but

1:19

he's the king of he

1:22

rips up his bed. It's like I can't keep a

1:24

bed for him for some reason. And

1:26

I bought them a new one, and it came yesterday,

1:29

literally took it out of the package at probably,

1:31

like, five o'clock last night. And this

1:34

morning, I came downstairs and it was completely

1:37

ripped to shreds. So that was a nice little

1:39

thing. Oh

1:42

my god. I can't imagine honestly,

1:44

can we talk about that for a second? Because what

1:46

is it like having dogs that

1:48

are as big as humans? Because I

1:51

can't late and can't imagine. Well,

1:54

I love it sometimes because he

1:56

just feels like he's a person. Like he's

1:59

I just love them so much. And

2:01

then, well, Carma, she's

2:04

a bitch. Like, she's a huge bitch.

2:07

So she's Lindsie's She's

2:09

great, but she's she doesn't like men.

2:11

And so she's just like me and dog warm.

2:14

But they're just shut it up

2:17

because they're so like, I just feel like they're

2:20

very cuddly and, like, loving.

2:23

And then Gizmos just he's little.

2:26

And he's like, Bella, and he's

2:29

well, I'm lying. He's really cuddly too. Is Bella

2:32

cuddly? Like, will she cuddle you guys? No,

2:34

honey. No. No? Said

2:37

no, honey. She

2:39

doesn't cuddle. She is, like,

2:41

a perchy cat Like, yeah.

2:43

She gets on the top of the furniture, and

2:46

she lays there, and she doesn't wanna be bothered, she

2:48

doesn't wanna be touched, And she does

2:50

this weird thing. I actually wanted to ask all the pet parents on here, if their animals do this, I feel like cats probably I actually wanted to

2:52

ask all the pet parents on here if

2:55

their animals do this. I feel like cats probably

2:57

do. But when you like,

2:59

talk to Bella in a sweet voice, she

3:03

starts stretching her body

3:05

out, like, so that she can get a like,

3:07

more attention and then she stretches like

3:09

her back legs out. I'll take a video of this,

3:11

but like every single time.

3:13

So it's got to be something

3:16

that she does. Like, when she's getting affection, she

3:19

like she like she stretches. Yeah.

3:22

That's so interesting. I need to see a video this.

3:24

I love when she smiles. That's my favorite thing.

3:26

And I just I need you to frame

3:28

a picture of her smiling because that is

3:30

amazing. She she's the

3:32

funny biggest. But, yeah, I couldn't imagine

3:36

cuddling with a

3:38

dog. It's as big as horse. Yeah.

3:40

Oh, it's like cuddling a person. That's why I love it

3:42

so much. I love that

3:45

you love that. And I love all of the people on here that have big And I love all of the people on

3:47

here that have big dogs. I

3:50

got bit by a big dog whenever it

3:52

was -- No. -- really, I guess, like,

3:54

border collie. That's

3:57

not a big dog. Well, it felt like

3:59

it was big to me, but we're talking about

4:02

I was in fourth grade, I think.

4:04

So -- Yeah. -- it probably was, like, even

4:06

fourth grade. Big then. Mhmm.

4:09

But, yeah, I got bit by a border

4:11

collie and it, like, dragged me and

4:13

ripped my blue jeans. And I was

4:16

so upset about it. Not only was I,

4:18

like, afraid, but I was upset to go

4:20

home. Like, I would be in

4:22

trouble because my pants were ripped

4:24

and, like, I was bleeding everywhere.

4:26

And obviously, that's completely irrational.

4:29

Like, why would I be in trouble for that? But

4:31

I just remember, like, feeling like that.

4:34

And I just wonder if big dogs

4:36

aren't a thing for me because of that.

4:38

Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I could see that. I

4:41

could totally see that. Have you ever been attacked

4:43

by an animal? No. I was gonna say I

4:45

mean, my mom had a cat when I was

4:47

a kid and his name was sergeant Pepper and

4:49

he was

4:51

an indoor cat and I used to drag

4:54

a blanket behind

4:57

me when I would get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.

4:59

Because in the middle of the night, if he saw me

5:01

walking. He'd, like, attack

5:03

me. But, like, he wasn't doing it

5:05

because he was he

5:07

wasn't doing it to be a dick. He was doing

5:09

it because he's cat, you know? Like,

5:12

yes. But I would just I learned to drag

5:14

the the the either a

5:16

towel or a blanket behind me to go to the bathroom.

5:18

But other than that, no, I've never actually been

5:20

attacked by an animal. So I I can't relate,

5:23

and that's I could see how fucking scary and terrifying

5:25

that would be. So terrifying. And then

5:27

when dogs, like, come up to me, Will's

5:30

like, at the park, and they'll try to come up in

5:32

Jackson loves any dogs. And

5:34

I don't know at what age did

5:36

you start teaching your boys, like, not to

5:38

approach other people's dogs? Because I feel like for

5:40

Jackson, he started doing he started trying

5:42

to do it like, maybe

5:44

two years ago and we had to have that conversation.

5:48

And that, you know, it was, like, the

5:50

era of Why? Well,

5:52

why don't I approach the dog? And why? And

5:54

so far, I haven't had to explain

5:56

that to my kids only because they they're not

5:59

dog people. They aren't? No.

6:01

Like, they're not like, Lincoln

6:04

actually jut like, Hobby texted me the other

6:06

day, and Lincoln was balling his out about

6:08

bear, but he was, you know, bear

6:10

was there when he was born. Other than,

6:12

like, bear, they're just

6:14

not interested in doll. Dogs like at None

6:16

of them. Wow. That's so interesting.

6:20

Yeah. It's they don't, they don't they don't they don't

6:22

care. And they have dogs at all like Hadi

6:24

has a dog Joe

6:26

and V have two dogs. Luxe's

6:29

dad's family has dogs, like but

6:32

Luxe is, like, the most interested at all

6:34

of them, but definitely still just

6:36

not. Like, if we didn't have any, they

6:38

wouldn't care. And Lux might be

6:40

his age too, like, just curious and

6:43

wanting to be into everything at this moment

6:45

in time. So -- Right. Right. You know, could

6:47

be a little bit of that too. Yeah. We had

6:49

to have the conversation about approaching other

6:51

people's dogs. And when dogs

6:53

come up to me at parks or whatever,

6:55

I always, like, jump back

6:58

because I'm, you know, like, afraid.

7:00

And I don't think it's like a natural reaction

7:03

to that. Right. Yeah. And then I always

7:05

feel bad because I'm like, don't want people

7:07

to think that I think their dogs mean or

7:09

whatever, but literally anytime I

7:12

see border collie, forget it, like

7:14

freaking forget it. Not a

7:16

thing. Cats are not a thing for

7:18

me. Jackson loves all animals. He loves

7:21

He loves cats. He loves dogs. We would

7:23

have a zoo at this house. He

7:27

just loves it. Like he wants a big he wants a big dog. He's

7:29

like, mom, I want a dog where I can ride on its back

7:31

and, like, like, that's a

7:33

horse, honey. Like, that's not that's

7:35

not a dog and and it's not happening at our house.

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Anyhow. So what else is going on in your so what else is going

10:23

on in your life? Okay. There's

10:26

well, a lot, but also there's just

10:28

so many other things that I wanna talk

10:30

about that have been going on, like, pop

10:32

culture and, like, current events, like,

10:35

the free Britney stuff, the Robinhood app

10:37

situation, and then I read yesterday

10:40

that P didi was suing Sean

10:42

John, which I thought that P didi's name was

10:44

Sean John, and I thought that he owned it.

10:46

Me too. Weird when I read that. And

10:49

then I don't know what else

10:51

that we were gonna talk about. I know that you were trying

10:53

to watch the the other jominee

10:56

Ramsey thing. Was there another documentary

10:58

that you were gonna watch? Yeah. So I didn't wanna spend

11:00

a whole bunch of time on the jominee Ramsey thing,

11:02

just because we covered it. So in-depth a

11:04

lot of times -- Yeah. -- episode in million

11:06

times because we're just so invested. But

11:09

I did watch I actually Googled her the

11:12

house last night? Like, I couldn't stop.

11:14

You did? Yeah. I went up for

11:16

sale in two thousand eight, two thousand nine, and

11:18

two thousand fourteen. There is someone living

11:20

there. And it's like

11:22

completely remodeled. But, yeah, I was

11:24

looking at I was looking at the floor plan. I I wanted

11:27

to tour it. I thought maybe it was like a thing, but someone lives I thought maybe was like a

11:29

thing, but someone lives there. Will's,

11:32

people send us messages of

11:35

where you can do, like, an online

11:38

tour of the house. So maybe

11:41

I can send you the link and see if it works.

11:43

Like, I didn't look or anything because it's just

11:46

not something I wouldn't look, but

11:48

that would probably freak me out. But anyhow

11:51

yeah. So did Discovery

11:54

Plus did a documentary on

11:56

John Benéramzi too. And

11:58

over the weekend, I told Will, I was like,

12:00

hey, can you put on Discovery Plus for me? So

12:02

I can watch the John Benéramzi thing. And he was like, I swear to you if I hear about this case one more and

12:04

he was like, I swear to you if I hear

12:07

about this case one more

12:09

time. And I'm like,

12:11

oh, wow. Will you go back to your office? Because

12:14

if so, But I'm gonna keep

12:16

talking. Keep talking about no. I'm just kidding. But

12:19

no. He was like, I swear, I can't listen

12:21

to this anymore. I can't watch this anymore.

12:23

You're obsessed. You're to invest it blah blah

12:26

blah. This is never gonna get solved. Do you and

12:28

Kail, whack jobs, and whatever. Tell

12:31

them to say it to my face. Yeah. Say

12:33

it say it to her face. And then

12:35

sad thing is as he probably would. And then

12:38

I love love you, Stop. Don't call me a

12:41

whack job. He then

12:43

was like This is ridiculous that you're making

12:45

me pay four ninety nine a month just to get

12:47

discover three plus so that you can watch this one

12:49

documentary. And so that brings

12:52

me back to the point before

12:54

I say about the documentary, we have

12:56

literally, like, nineteen streaming services,

12:59

and it proves your point of,

13:01

yes, you can cancel cable, but you're probably

13:03

gonna end up paying similar

13:05

amount to have all the different streams to be

13:08

able to watch the different things. And it's just hard

13:10

when you see stuff being

13:12

so followed like in the media or,

13:14

you know, on Instagram Lindsie's this documentary

13:17

coming out and whatever and then you don't

13:19

have the stream and it just is so

13:21

easy to download it and

13:23

get it, that I'm

13:25

like, oh, wow. You know, for four ninety nine.

13:28

It's basically, like, apps on

13:30

your phone that you pay for except, like, on

13:32

your TV. And -- Right. --

13:35

I'm all about it. And Kail gonna

13:37

have all my login and probably

13:40

hacked me. So I didn't

13:43

I, but I did watch the free Brittany movement on the New York times thing, which was on but I did watch the

13:45

free Britney movement

13:47

on the New York Times thing, which was on

13:50

Hulu, and I did use your login

13:52

for that. Will's, before we get into that,

13:54

I just wanted to say that it

13:56

was really interesting to me that

13:59

the discovery plus documentary definitely

14:02

more so followed the

14:06

intruder, conspiracy,

14:09

or theory, whatever you wanna call it. definitely,

14:11

like, followed more of that. And

14:14

a lot of things made made sense

14:16

to me, but I just can't get past, like,

14:18

certain stuff. Like we talked on the last episode, and

14:22

also, like, more of the

14:24

side following, like, the d

14:26

a. And the

14:28

grand jury and, like, all of that stuff.

14:31

So I did find that it was interesting and there

14:33

was, like, different information a

14:35

lot of information obviously recycled, but

14:37

but different information and following

14:40

the one theory. Like, it was sticking

14:43

to that and eliminating.

14:46

It kept reiterating and eliminating the

14:48

fact that it would have or

14:50

could have been the parents.

14:53

So, yeah, I'm still

14:56

sticking to it was You know,

14:59

I I think about it a lot,

15:01

probably more than an average person thinks

15:03

about, like, a crime. Like,

15:05

it's probably abnormal. But Wack

15:08

job. Yeah. A little bit.

15:10

I don't I can't get

15:12

past. And that's why, like, when people,

15:15

like, in your regular life, when you think about,

15:17

like, a lie that they've told or whatever, like, certain

15:19

things just don't that up, but, you know, at the end of

15:21

the day that they still lied. Like, that's

15:24

how I feel about, like, John

15:26

Monet's case. Like, I just feel like, yeah,

15:28

there's a little bit of weird

15:30

things that donut up, but at the end of the day, like, the

15:32

parents still did it. Well, the mom probably

15:34

still did it. I just can't get past

15:37

the ransom note and I cannot get past

15:39

the outfits

15:43

not being changed. And, like, there's just, like,

15:45

too many things where, like, yes, I couldn't and

15:47

I see how someone would come the conclusion that

15:49

maybe an intruder came in, but, like, the

15:51

cobble's in the window and stuff that we talked about last

15:53

time, like, I just I can't I can't

15:55

bring myself to think anything else. I

15:57

just can't me either. So basically,

16:00

if you watch the Discovery Plus

16:03

documentary, you

16:06

will either now be convinced

16:08

that was an intruder or you

16:10

will be, like, still too much

16:12

evidence that is against that story.

16:15

So anyhow, then

16:17

Kayle texted me this weekend, and

16:19

she's like, you have to watch. What is it

16:22

For It was I

16:24

thought it was, like, free Britney. I don't

16:26

know. It was on the New York Times, like, show.

16:28

They have a series, and they focus,

16:30

oh, it's called framing Britney Spears. It's

16:32

called framing Britney Spears. It's a New York

16:34

Times series

16:37

where they do a different episode each

16:39

week and episode six was on

16:41

the free Britney Spears movement. Yes.

16:44

Well, with that being said,

16:49

I then take a bath. Kail me when I'm

16:51

in the bath. And I'm like, then

16:53

it makes me go down this rabbit hole where I'm like,

16:55

Kail. In my new house, I'm going

16:58

to put a TV above my bathtub

17:00

because I spend an enormous amount of time in

17:02

the bath, I could get like

17:04

an hour show in while I'm

17:06

also taking a bath and killed two birds with

17:08

one stone. Anyhow, not really

17:10

important. I get out

17:14

can I turn on one more this

17:16

this documentary? And, honestly,

17:21

I don't know. This whole time, I've gone

17:23

back and forth on this, like, okay,

17:26

free Britney movement, whatever. Crazy.

17:30

This is just outlandish. Whatever.

17:33

But then there's been times that I'm like,

17:36

Kail, there could be some validity to this.

17:38

And then after watching that

17:41

documentary, to me, there

17:43

is enough that

17:47

draws the conclusion that there

17:49

is, like, I don't know if you would call like,

17:51

foul play or whatever, but Yeah. Like abuse,

17:53

conservatorship abuse. Yes.

17:56

I believe that that

17:58

is going on. And I

18:01

just can't get past the fact if you

18:03

are an adult

18:06

that has earning potential

18:09

that can go

18:12

to a job or jobs or, you know,

18:14

whatever. I

18:16

don't believe that you should be

18:18

under that type of conservatorship. I

18:21

agree. I and if you if you

18:23

watched the episode in the beginning,

18:27

one of the first things I think it was Felicia,

18:29

which the whole time watching it was

18:31

really like, I was I was, like, nostalgia. Like,

18:33

I was, like, oh, wow. Like, I remember as

18:36

a child, like, seeing pictures and

18:38

magazines and in a little album.

18:41

Like, remember those album things that they had in

18:43

the CD case where you could take it out and, like,

18:45

open it up and it was, like, twelve images

18:47

-- Yes. -- like a like a little booklet

18:49

-- Yes. -- magazines with

18:52

Felicia and Britney, and I always like,

18:54

I knew who Felicia was too because I was heavily

18:56

in like, I was invested. Like, Britney Spears,

18:58

baby one more time, all of that. So

19:01

when they interviewed her, I think it

19:03

was her that said one of the first

19:05

things that Jamie Spears said was

19:07

my daughter's gonna be so rich. She's gonna buy

19:09

me a boat. So that right

19:11

there was a red flag for me because it was

19:13

to to me right off the bat. Her

19:16

dad was invested in the money

19:18

in the dollar signs. And so that was a

19:20

huge, like, turn off in red flag. And

19:22

then later on, like,

19:25

if she she it stated in the documentary

19:28

that she knew at at some

19:30

point, I wanna say it was after her first her second

19:32

son was born. She knew that she wasn't gonna be able to

19:34

fight the conservatorship. She knew that.

19:37

But she said

19:39

that she just didn't want her dad to be

19:41

the one that is the conservator.

19:43

She just that was the one thing that she asked

19:45

for. I will say, I

19:47

don't understand to this day even after

19:50

watch in the episode. I don't understand why

19:52

her family, like her mom,

19:54

her her sister, her brother, why they're not

19:56

speaking out more. On

19:59

re on her behalf. And then I know that Jamie

20:01

Limb Spears was getting a lot of shit for

20:04

she was the trustee of who of

20:06

her her

20:08

revocable trust or something like that. I

20:10

also have a revocable trust and I have a trustee

20:13

and things like that. I do not pay this person.

20:15

That's not somebody that I pay. It's someone who

20:18

will have control of, you

20:20

know, the money for wherever my kids

20:22

are so that whoever, you know, if something were to happen

20:25

to me, the person

20:27

taking care of my kids could go to the trustee and

20:29

say, hey, you know, these are the expenses,

20:31

you know, Isaac or Lincoln or Lux or Creed,

20:33

whatever the case may be. You

20:35

know, this is these are the expenses. Can I

20:37

have x amount of dollars? And then the trustee would

20:39

would give the money. Does that make sense? Yes. So

20:43

I think they're for people who don't

20:45

know, like, there's, like, an estate plan

20:47

and things like that. I don't know why

20:50

then Jamie removed herself. And I

20:52

know that she was trying to move money,

20:55

I wanna say, out of the conservatorship and

20:58

out of Britney's Convos, to,

21:01

like, move it out of her control, I think,

21:03

something along those lines. But, like, why are

21:05

they why are they not fighting or speaking against

21:07

Jamie Spears if they don't agree with

21:09

it? Because at one point, in the

21:11

in the episode, it was like Britney's

21:14

mom says something about, like, wanting to have

21:16

some control over her daughter you

21:19

know, giving her some freedom and and she wants

21:21

to see her happy and things like that. And then

21:23

in you turn around and then they're, like,

21:25

holding hands coming out of the court Like, I don't understand

21:28

There's a couple things. Dynamic. Okay.

21:31

Go ahead. Go ahead. So Let's

21:34

back up a little bit. K? Okay. None of us, anyone who's listening, probably I would say unless you're like Kim Kardashian, but definitely us can not relate to the level of fame that she experienced as she experienced

21:38

None of us, anyone who's

21:40

listening? Probably, I would say,

21:42

unless you're like Kail Kardashian. But

21:45

definitely us cannot relate to

21:48

the level of fame that she

21:50

experienced actually, when she experienced

21:53

it. Right. And I

21:55

think that when

21:57

that comes a lot

21:59

of change. She came from a small town.

22:02

She blew up.

22:04

She was performing in Will's. And then

22:07

literally, she was selling out Convos and

22:09

arenas. Like, that's

22:11

a lot of change to go through definitely

22:16

developmentally, but, like, from an emotional standpoint,

22:19

a mental standpoint. And

22:22

then to be having paparazzi

22:24

following you and wanting to know your every

22:27

move. That's where I feel like it

22:29

took a turn. Does the the paparazzi

22:31

and and an media.

22:34

The media really did her

22:36

so dirty. And that think that they needed to

22:38

focus more on that, like, just the mental health

22:40

aspect when you're constantly in interviews and

22:43

seeing yourself in magazines being bashed

22:45

and everything is negative

22:47

and then to me, Justin Timberlake,

22:50

completely took advantage of the situation and

22:54

and played a part in that. I

22:56

think that that was a turning point.

22:59

The point that I want to make here is that none of us can relate to that level of fame and the mental warfare that she was going through when dealing with point that I wanna make here is

23:02

that none of us can

23:04

relate to that level of fame. Mhmm.

23:07

And the

23:09

mental warfare that she

23:12

was going through when dealing with

23:14

it. And I think that

23:17

it's very easy to sit back and

23:20

say, and judge people

23:22

that you see online or, you know,

23:24

an A List celebrity or whatever because, I

23:26

mean, I'm guilty of it. I've used the Britney

23:28

Spears umbrella GIF,

23:31

you know, or GIF, whatever you wanna call it.

23:33

Right. I've used it, and now I

23:35

feel completely horrible after watching

23:38

documentary because it's really predatory behavior.

23:41

And a lot of these things that people

23:43

are going through, whether it be like custody

23:45

battle or just

23:48

general normal life things

23:50

that are blown up to the max because

23:52

of who they are and it's spread

23:55

all over every tabloid that

23:58

pictures of her were going for millions

24:00

of dollars. There was just so

24:02

much that I

24:05

I could understand why somewhat

24:07

I can completely understand why she

24:09

went off the You had a breaking point, Oh, I'll all a hundred P like I, and that was something that I was saying to you too, where like, when we were texting about it was, I can't had a breaking

24:11

point. 0AA hundred like,

24:14

I and that was something that I was saying to

24:16

you too. Like, when we were texting about it was,

24:18

I can't understand we neither of us can

24:20

understand that magnitude of fame. But

24:23

I've I've experienced it on a very a

24:25

fraction of a fraction of her Kail,

24:28

and it's like, I've hit my

24:30

breaking point because of of the things that have been

24:32

said about me that are untrue and the things that have been

24:34

known about me that are untrue. I can only I can't

24:36

even imagine what she was going through. I

24:38

mean, her her custody

24:40

stuff, you know, her breaking point with wanting to

24:42

shave her head. She doesn't have good relationship

24:44

with her dad Lindsie's wanting to take control of her

24:47

life. Like, I cannot imagine people

24:49

using her fame against

24:51

her, like, what Bra Justin

24:54

Timberlake did and just all

24:56

of it. And then her dad wants to turn around

24:58

and have a conservatorship, but

25:00

then she's able to do four more

25:02

albums four more tours. She's able to

25:04

do what was the documentary that

25:07

MTV released where

25:10

she talks about the conservatorship? It was

25:13

behind the scenes or something? Like Britney

25:15

Spears behind the scenes or something? Yeah.

25:18

Will's, also, before

25:20

I forget about this point I wanted to make,

25:23

is that when

25:27

when there's a lot of money that

25:29

is involved and people

25:32

around you haven't seen it. I

25:36

think that that and

25:38

and people would have an agenda

25:41

and easily be able to, like

25:43

in her dad's case, easily

25:45

be able to prove she is crazy.

25:49

She is incompetent.

25:52

She is not capable. She is

25:56

a detriment to herself or to

25:58

society, there

26:01

was enough agenda financial

26:04

agenda behind it, and I can't get over

26:07

the fact of the vote. You know? And then

26:09

him trying to press this conservatorship to

26:13

use that as leverage, to control

26:16

all of her finances. That would be

26:18

a really sad life kill. I

26:21

think though on the documentary, uncorrect

26:23

me if I'm wrong. I think she gets either one or

26:25

one and a half percent of her earnings,

26:28

and that's, like, her allowance. And

26:30

I'm sure the if

26:33

you heard from the other side, it

26:35

would be, oh, she gets one and

26:38

half percent of her

26:40

earnings because anything more

26:42

would be a detriment to herself or

26:45

whatever. Nowhere in

26:48

that documentary did it prove that

26:50

by her having access to more money,

26:53

that that caused the problems. What it showed

26:55

to me was that her

26:59

not having the protection that she should have needed

27:01

when it came to paparazzi, when it came to

27:03

the rising fame, that was the

27:06

the issue. Yes. Agreed.

27:09

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think she had she had more a little bit more

30:56

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30:59

of I feel like paparazzi

31:01

and, like, really selling someone's struggles for

31:03

profit. You know what I mean? Like, that was really

31:05

when for sure. And

31:07

can you imagine, Kail, someone

31:11

like a Jojo Sewa or

31:14

Selena Gomez or whatever going

31:17

into an interview, like Britney

31:19

was interviewed and these male

31:22

correspondents or or

31:24

asks about her virginity? Can

31:26

you imagine in today's time if

31:29

that happened? Oh my

31:31

god. No. I would be I

31:33

no. No. Not now. Not today.

31:36

No. People are advocating for for

31:39

for those things to not happen now. They didn't

31:42

Britney didn't have that. And there was

31:44

an interview where Justin Timberlake got on

31:46

the radio and they flat

31:48

out asked him, did you fuck Brittany Spears?

31:50

And he, like, doesn't know how to ask, and he doesn't

31:52

defend her, and he doesn't You know what I mean? And he went at that time, he was just coming off of, you know, in sync and trying to get his solo career off the ground and took advantage of someone so vulnerable in such a, and I don't think that anyone put two and two together at the

31:54

mean? And he at that time, he was just coming

31:56

off of, you know, in sync and trying

31:58

to get his solo career off the ground

32:01

and took advantage of someone so

32:03

vulnerable and such a and I don't think

32:05

that anyone put

32:08

two and two together at the time. And, obviously, we

32:10

didn't either because we all used the Britney Spears

32:12

GIF and, you know, literally

32:15

said I was I was gonna pull up Britney

32:17

Spears and shave my own head off at the worst time of

32:20

my life. You know what I mean? And and nobody put two

32:22

and two together. It's just so fucking

32:24

heartbreaking. And you know what's even worse

32:26

is that I guess it was

32:28

last year when I was going on her Instagram,

32:30

like, what the fuck is going on with Britney? Like, her

32:32

Instagram is, like,

32:34

she's just not herself. It's like she's I don't and

32:37

I'm this is an assumption and what

32:39

is the word? Not an assumption. An

32:42

observation that her

32:44

Instagram is just, like, I don't

32:46

know if she's medicated, if her mental health

32:48

has just deteriorated that much. But

32:52

I went on that was last year when I was, like,

32:54

what the fuck is going on. And then this

32:56

year yesterday, I went on her

32:58

Instagram and she has a video on her

33:00

feed of

33:03

kinetic sand. Kail.

33:05

And it's she has it in a ball and she puts

33:07

her finger in it, and then it, like, kind of, like,

33:09

falls apart. And the caption is,

33:11

I do this about two hours a day. I'm

33:17

sad for her. Like, I'm I feel

33:19

horrible. I feel like when you're think

33:21

about the people in like

33:25

in a mental health hospital that are just being

33:27

medicated and they're not actually being helped.

33:30

Do you know what I mean? Remember when we had

33:32

the episode of Rachel where she went to

33:35

Provo Canyon school, and she said

33:37

that they don't even like, they don't even give

33:39

her real therapy and help. They literally just drug

33:41

her. Like, they just gave her meds. That's

33:44

literally not a society today. I

33:46

think But that's not like, Britney is if she

33:48

is capable to she's she to work

33:50

until her dad was removed from

33:53

the conservators. Which speaks volume. Which

33:55

speaks fucking volumes. Like she's not asking for much, she's saying that she She's not

33:57

asking for much. She's saying that she it's okay.

33:59

Well, I'm not saying she said it's Kail, but she

34:02

understood that she couldn't fight it. She couldn't go against

34:04

it. She's willing to work and to continue

34:06

making money because she's obviously fucking

34:09

capable. But then to see to

34:11

to know that and then to hear that she's,

34:13

like, basically confined to her own house

34:15

most of the time. And then she's playing with

34:17

kinetic sand for two hours a day, and then

34:19

she posts about it. Like, There's something

34:21

wrong there. There's something very something

34:23

very wrong, and I

34:26

want to join, like, the

34:29

the free Britney movement because something

34:31

is very wrong and I feel like as

34:33

a as a woman that

34:36

we do have a voice and we

34:38

can't speak up that it's

34:40

it's wrong and there needs

34:42

to be more

34:44

awareness around that

34:46

and mental health aspect just in

34:49

general, people do not understand. And we can't understand to like an alias level, how, you know, how she is, but the mental toll that it takes on a human being and why someone who has ever had any form of fame or notoriety or whatever you want to call it probably has signed themselves up for a lifetime of therapy and problems that have come from and

34:51

we can't understand till like an a list

34:53

level how, you know, how she is.

34:56

But the mental toll

34:59

that it takes on

35:02

a human being and why someone

35:04

who has ever had any form

35:06

of fame or notoriety or whatever

35:09

you wanna call it, probably

35:11

have signed themselves up for a lifetime

35:14

of therapy and

35:16

problems that have come from that. I

35:20

think that that's a very important point

35:23

to make that she

35:27

no matter if her conservatorship ever

35:29

gets turned over or whatever because

35:31

of what she faced with

35:34

the media tablets, just

35:38

in general public, the people

35:40

in the business, like, Justin Timber, like,

35:43

those types of things she is going to struggle

35:46

with and have

35:48

repercussions from that stuff

35:51

for the rest of her life. I

35:55

could not I still can't

35:57

wrap my head around watching interviews

35:59

of her as a young girl and a

36:02

young woman to now her

36:04

Instagram, like the videos of her on her

36:06

Instagram. You know what I mean? Like the comparison

36:08

of who she was and who she

36:10

is today, and I

36:13

don't blame her one bit. Like, I

36:15

don't none of this was her call in

36:17

my opinion. Well, Will was, like, her

36:19

voice completely changed -- Her voice.

36:21

-- like her face. Everything about her face.

36:23

Her voice. The everything

36:25

that she Kail, like, even the video that she just posted

36:28

about the Super Bowl, like, she's

36:30

not the same, like, it's

36:33

I just it's so fucking it's heartbreaking. Like, and we don't even know

36:35

like and we don't even know her. Imagine the people

36:37

that are close to her, and do they see it the

36:39

same way that we do? Or is

36:41

it on a greater scale or a lesser scale?

36:43

Or do they think, oh, that's just Britney. You know what I

36:45

mean? Where it's like, no. That's not just That's

36:48

what the fucking public and everyone around

36:50

her did to her because nobody knew how to handle

36:54

what she was going through. And To that point, though, you said that you don't understand why other people in her family, like isn't speaking up, like her sister, her mom, whatever, this is just a complete

36:57

that point, though, you said

36:59

that you don't understand why other people

37:01

in her family, like, isn't speaking up, like, her

37:03

sister, her mom, whatever. This

37:05

is just a complete speculation.

37:09

My thoughts on that were

37:11

I'm wondering if her

37:14

estate or business

37:20

has some type of, like, gag order

37:22

or nondisclosure to where

37:24

no one in the family can speak

37:28

on the issues regarding

37:30

Britney publicly? Yeah. I mean, that definitely makes sense, but definitely makes

37:34

I mean, that definitely makes sense, but definitely

37:36

sense. It just I guess

37:39

it it just sucks from I

37:42

mean, it sucks from from our

37:44

perspective. I can imagine it sucks for

37:46

that. Like, their heart justice heart. Yeah. You're right.

37:49

And I it's just

37:51

stay at it from though from

37:53

other situations

37:58

that I

38:02

think a lot of people that

38:05

are I'm trying to figure out how to

38:07

say this properly without diverging

38:12

too much. I

38:14

think that when you are media

38:17

followed and that there is

38:19

an agenda to be pressed

38:22

or whatever that if

38:26

other people have a benefit

38:29

in the situation, they

38:32

might be less likely to

38:34

speak out knowing that there could

38:36

be ramifications against

38:39

them financially or

38:43

whatever. So they're gonna take the financial benefit

38:47

versus doing

38:49

the right thing. Does that make sense? Okay.

38:52

Yes. Okay. So in that way, there may

38:54

or may not be money

38:57

involved? Yes. Because I know

38:59

that Jamie Lindsie's saying

39:01

that she hasn't received a dime from her sister.

39:03

And and I'm not

39:05

here to decide whether she has or she hasn't,

39:07

but that was one thing

39:10

you know, she basically said that she, you know, believes

39:12

in her sister and that nobody has room

39:14

to talk about it. And, you

39:17

know, you're right. She may Will's,

39:19

just not be able to. And,

39:21

you know, it's it sucks. But, I mean, maybe it's

39:23

in the best interest. I don't know. It's just it's

39:25

so heartbreaking to see from just

39:27

a fan's perspective. And III

39:30

hope that people aren't, like, in her family

39:32

saying, you know, all that's just Britney or, you

39:34

know, I'm just going

39:37

off of the interviews I've seen of her

39:39

as a young woman and a young girl versus

39:41

the Instagram post now are

39:45

I can't. Like, I it's so sad.

39:47

And I and it it feels like a mystery.

39:49

Like, it's like an eerie weird

39:52

mystery and it's fucking heartbreaking. I also just wonder, this is, this is truly just like a

39:55

I also just

39:57

wonder, this is this is truly just like

39:59

a question I

40:02

wonder if a

40:04

little bit of north and south comes

40:06

into play in this situation because

40:09

dads to me in the south are

40:11

very controlling

40:14

in general. Like the and

40:19

I especially was very tired of

40:21

a man, like, taking care of

40:23

family and having the final say and things

40:25

like that. Is that what you mean? Yeah. And

40:27

especially when it comes to their

40:29

daughters and stuff, and so I just

40:32

wonder if part of

40:34

the upbringing of where they're from

40:39

with, you know, being from the south

40:41

has anything to do to

40:44

do with it. Like, maybe her dad is

40:46

like a very controlling southern man. And,

40:48

like, I do

40:50

think that men in the south and and this

40:52

could just be a

40:55

complete stereotype

40:58

that I'm saying, but I do I

41:01

tend to find men or dads

41:03

in the south being a lot crazier

41:06

than people

41:09

or dads from the north. I

41:11

don't know, but you brought up point that if

41:13

that was a situation with your kids or

41:16

whatever, that you

41:18

would hope that one

41:20

of your boys or your boys would be able to speak

41:22

out, like, if they wanted to. And,

41:26

yes, I agree with you, but also you're

41:28

not like, controlling

41:32

narcissist sick asshole? Oh,

41:36

I'm not. Because there's rumors

41:38

that I am. So Okay. Will's,

41:40

I'm glad that the rumors are that, glad that the rumors are

41:42

that. But

41:45

just from Yeah. I've done knowing you personally,

41:48

that couldn't be further from from

41:51

the truth. So I think that

41:53

you can make that per you have that perspective

41:55

because you aren't that. Does that

41:57

make sense? Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

42:00

I just think the whole thing is so sad and

42:02

III hope that everyone

42:04

that's close to Britney is really doing everything they

42:06

can because I can't imagine, you know,

42:09

feeling I I just I cannot I

42:11

don't even wanna say too much because I don't wanna say the

42:13

wrong thing. You know what I mean? Like, I don't wanna say

42:17

something that is gonna make it more

42:20

like, are we contributing to

42:22

the struggle the struggles that she's facing

42:25

right now by talking about it? Like, I don't even wanna

42:27

do more you know what I mean? So I just I wanna be

42:29

careful with the things that I in a way that I word things,

42:31

so they don't wanna say anything

42:33

that could potentially cause her more harm, not that

42:35

she cares about this fucking podcast. You get what

42:37

I mean. I'm dead. You're definitely not listening to this, but I'm just saying like, definitely

42:40

not listening to this, but I'm just saying,

42:42

like, I feel horrible for

42:44

her. So But please, Britney, do

42:46

listen to us. Also yeah.

42:50

Moving on from this, though, I have to

42:52

tell you something that is so freaking

42:54

funny. The pictures that

42:57

I got in my DMs from

43:00

last week of people with their

43:02

kids, with their clothes looking insane

43:05

coming from, like, a custody exchange

43:08

or whatever it's Kail,

43:10

like, what do you all call that? Not

43:12

a custody exchange biller. Is that like how this

43:15

is? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Oh, okay.

43:17

So, like, that or kids coming back from their

43:19

grandparents, it's like, the blue jeans are

43:21

ripped. There's, like, mud everywhere. They

43:24

might be wearing two different shoes. Like, the

43:26

pictures that I got were so freaking

43:28

funny. That's so

43:30

funny. I love that. I

43:32

definitely I I

43:34

want them to look nice. We talked about this.

43:37

I want them to look nice, but I it's so

43:39

funny if you've if you've ever been on TikTok

43:41

and you see the videos, it's like, how my

43:43

mother-in-law dresses my kid and

43:45

how I dress her? Are there -- Really? --

43:47

how my husband or my ex dresses

43:49

my kid and how I dress him. It's literally

43:52

two different worlds. That's so

43:55

it's so funny to me because I

43:58

can't relate in the fact of, like, a

44:01

custody exchange or anything like that.

44:04

However, when I get pictures like,

44:06

for example, if we're traveling for the podcast

44:08

or something and we're together and I get a picture

44:10

of Jackson and what he's wearing, I'm like, where

44:12

did those clothes even come from? Like, I've never

44:14

seen them. Like, we're gonna Will find

44:17

that Will's, like, having him, you know, taking

44:19

him out to lunch in the ugliest outfit. Yes.

44:21

And it drives me nuts, but just like, Kail,

44:24

that's just in battle that I'm not gonna

44:26

fight because he's taking care of him. He's

44:30

fed he might not be playing Jackson,

44:32

think about it. Does he like the outfit? Does he

44:35

not care? Like, does he oh

44:37

gosh. So the other day,

44:39

I went to lay sections closeout

44:42

for school. And I went into his

44:44

bathroom, and there was like this weird outfit

44:46

in there. And I was just like, what is going

44:48

on? Like, who put this here? And

44:51

was just like jeans that I

44:53

had never seen before in Jackson doesn't

44:55

really like jeans and I don't know

44:57

if anyone else's kids are like No.

44:59

I just hates them. Isaac Isaac

45:02

and Lincoln Bolt hate jeans. Okay.

45:04

So they only wanna wear joggers all the time. I'm I'm

45:06

a say Yes. the time -- Yes. -- all the time.

45:08

Same. So there

45:11

are BlueJeans in there, and I'm

45:13

like, first of all, where

45:15

did these even come from? And Will's like

45:17

notorious for going

45:19

to goodwill and like buying stuff

45:21

stuff and not telling me, not

45:24

like clothes or jacks or anything like that, but

45:26

he might like, I might find a little, like,

45:28

nicknack in the garage or something, and

45:30

it's because we'll been a good will. So in my

45:32

mind, I'm thinking, why? Mayes

45:34

do that? I don't know. Like,

45:38

what kind of nicknacks is he getting from Will's?

45:40

And why are they in the garage? They're

45:43

in the garage because he knows that I'm gonna

45:45

be, like, are you bringing junk into the house?

45:47

Like, I take things to goodwill and he brings

45:49

things home from goodwill. I

45:53

just wanna know what he's buying like

45:56

golf clubs. Kail. I've got funny

45:58

story about that actually. But anyway,

46:00

the blue jeans were laying in there and then there was

46:02

like the shirt that was too small. It was like an

46:04

Under Armour shirt that was like a dry fit

46:07

shirt. And it had, like,

46:09

American flag or something on Definitely something

46:11

that you would wear, like, in the summertime. First of all,

46:13

it was short sleeves. And it

46:15

was just like, Kail. dry

46:17

fit under armor shirt really doesn't go with

46:19

these BlueJeans. Like, it's a two

46:21

totally different looks trying to be put together.

46:24

So either Jackson did this, which

46:26

I don't believe because he doesn't like BlueJeans or

46:29

have no idea why Will did this. So

46:33

I wouldn't just like put the stuff back on his

46:35

dresser and got out an actual outfit

46:37

and put it in his bathroom. And Jackson

46:40

thinks it's so funny whenever I,

46:42

like, start going in on Will's about his

46:44

lack of fashion. Wait.

46:48

Jackson laughs about it. Oh, like,

46:50

hysterically. Because I'll be like,

46:52

you have no fashions in like, I

46:54

don't know who told you that this goes together,

46:56

like, this looks terrible, where do these

46:59

things even come from? Blah blah. So Anyway,

47:02

basically, Will's as Jackson

47:04

like a Jackass, and I'm

47:08

not here for it. funny.

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49:04

me tell you the story, though, about goodwill. So

49:07

Will told me that he went to Will's, like, a couple

49:09

of weeks ago and that he

49:12

around this golf club and he was

49:14

like, oh, like, I can repurpose this

49:16

and, like, make it nice and whatever.

49:19

Repurpose Golf Club,

49:21

like, for golfing or for something else?

49:23

Unsure, to be honest. Like, he

49:25

says it's golf? No.

49:27

Like, not really. Like, So what The fuck are you repurposing a golf club the fuck are you repurposing

49:30

golf club with? I don't know. I think it's truly

49:33

to see if he can do it.

49:35

Like to see if he can, like, regrip it

49:38

like Like, he wanted

49:40

to do project. Okay. Okay.

49:42

But this gets good. So then

49:45

I, like, go with my basement. And

49:47

I find fingernail

49:50

polish down there that, like, doesn't belong

49:52

to me. So I'm like, who's

49:56

is this? And, like, I didn't wanna start

49:58

asking questions because, you know, sometimes

50:00

when you start asking questions, you get answers

50:02

that you don't want. So sometimes it's just like best

50:05

not to go there. So not. Yeah. But

50:07

it was like a white fingernail polish,

50:09

a red fingernail polish, and a blue fingernail

50:11

polish. And I was like, Kail. It clearly looks like somebody

50:13

was painting their nails for the fourth of July. But

50:18

definitely not. And these were ones

50:20

that looks like they were maybe, like, dollar

50:22

store brand or something. So I was like, Kail. This

50:24

definitely looks like something will evolve. But would he

50:26

be buying fingernail polish? Like, I

50:28

have so many questions. So

50:30

then he goes to goodwill and

50:33

he bought this golf club, and

50:35

then he bought some kind of, like,

50:38

regroup stuff so that he could, like, regroup

50:40

it. Will's, apparently, he got into

50:42

an altercation with, like, some workers

50:44

at goodwill. Okay.

50:48

Because supposedly, Will's

50:51

knows, like, when they put stuff out

50:53

and when they don't. And

50:55

so why okay. And so he said,

50:57

I know that they just

51:00

like, got a whole thing of golf clubs,

51:02

but they just put, like, one out and whenever it

51:04

gets gone, they'll go and put the other one out.

51:07

And until, like so they always have

51:09

a golf club or something. And I'm like, well, that's just

51:11

like a weird theory, but, like, whatever. So

51:14

Will says he gets in trouble because he walked in

51:16

the back of goodwill. Can you imagine this?

51:20

This is like six foot forward guy

51:22

walking stocked. In the stock

51:24

room of goodwill. Oh

51:27

my god. And I'm like, when the actual

51:29

hell is like going he

51:31

says that the people, like, start yelling at him

51:34

and stuff saying that he can't be back there. And

51:36

he was, like, well, I know that there's, like, the other golf

51:38

clubs back here or whatever. So I wanna of

51:40

people to get them. And the guy

51:42

was like, well, we put stuff out whenever we

51:44

get it, and Will was like, no. Like,

51:46

you definitely didn't. There's more golf

51:49

clubs back here and I wanna get them. And

51:53

Will was like, I'm pretty sure they just wanted to

51:55

keep them for themselves. Like, they probably

51:57

people who work at goodwill probably see the good stuff

51:59

come in and they just keep it and, like, they don't put it

52:01

out. And I'm, like, first of all, the fact that you're arguing

52:04

with people who work at goodwill and,

52:06

like, the stock

52:08

people. goodwill, I'm pretty sure they don't have any

52:10

investment in like what's coming in there first

52:12

of all. Secondly, Again,

52:15

same question that you have, why is Will's

52:17

golf clubs? Third, the fingernail

52:19

polish? Was for

52:22

when he was, like, redoing these

52:24

golf clubs on

52:26

the, like, part where you hit, it'll

52:28

have, like, a brand or whatever. And

52:31

they have, like, a color on there and

52:33

so he was painting them.

52:39

Can you imagine you imagine this? No.

52:42

Why there's other paint

52:45

to use. Why was he using nail

52:47

ish. Don't don't know. I

52:50

have so many questions that I really want

52:52

to get him on the podcast. Like,

52:54

I wanna know how he got invested

52:56

in goodwill. I wanna know

52:59

how often he goes. I wanna know what

53:01

kinds of things he buys or what he looks

53:03

for. I

53:06

just I have a lot of questions. He says

53:08

that they have, like, a lot of stuff.

53:10

A lot of, like, really good stuff. Oh,

53:12

I know plenty of people that get, like, really, really

53:14

good stuff at goodwill. Like, I'm

53:17

I don't doubt it, but, like, what

53:19

what does Will's look for? But I'm not that type of shopper, you know what I not

53:21

that type of shopper. You know what I mean? Like, I

53:23

couldn't go into goodwill and be like, oh,

53:25

yeah. I can't make that into a gym.

53:28

Like Well, right. Like, we're just, like, not

53:30

those type like, I I'm not I'm not creative

53:32

in that way. Like, I I went through a phase where

53:34

I was wanting to, like, go to

53:36

goodwill and, like, repurpose furniture, and then I

53:38

realized I was horrible at it, and I just

53:40

didn't say better. Have

53:43

all been through that phase? I wonder how many people

53:45

who are listening to this have also been through

53:47

that phase and then realized, like, Kail, this is

53:49

just not for me. Like, like, totally

53:51

not for me. I hope

53:53

I hope I'm not the only one. Well,

53:56

I know for a fact you're not because I also

53:58

was that person. I was thinking I was going to be a repurposer that I was going to, you know, like make all these gyms and I did nothing, but fuck everything was thinking I was going to

54:00

be a repurpose her that I was gonna, you know,

54:02

like, make all these gyms and I

54:04

did nothing but fuck everything up. So

54:09

that's what happened there. I

54:12

always oh. And then, like, occasionally,

54:14

I'll see wearing like something that

54:17

I've never seen before. And I'm

54:19

like, that's interesting.

54:21

Like, where did you get that? And

54:24

he literally, like, sneaks it in the laundry

54:27

somehow, and I don't know. And

54:29

it gets washed, and it came from goodwill.

54:31

And I'm like -- Oh. --

54:33

but he goes all the time, Kail. I swear to you.

54:35

Like, this is -- Like, in his free time,

54:38

and he has a lot of it. Just

54:41

a lot. I'm

54:46

just literally, I could probably

54:48

be going to the gym. No lie. And

54:50

this man would be, like,

54:52

I could pass by goodwill and probably find

54:54

his truck there at any given time. So

54:57

does he take Jackson ever on his side? Absolutely.

54:59

Actually, Jackson, the biggest

55:02

accident that Jackson's ever had. He busted

55:04

his chin open at goodwill. Because

55:07

Will was letting him play

55:09

with, like, ride on toys at goodwill.

55:11

And I'm, like, goodwill people that,

55:14

like, work there

55:16

regularly. When they see you guys coming, they

55:18

probably are like, oh, fuck. Oh,

55:21

I bet. Can you imagine? Like,

55:24

it is not it is not

55:27

rare for him to wanna

55:29

wake up early on a Saturday, more ring. Take Jackson

55:31

to Bojangles and

55:33

get breakfast and then Bojangles.

55:36

What is that? Do you guys have that? No.

55:39

I don't like it, but it's kind of, like,

55:41

do y'all have popeyes? Yeah.

55:43

Do y'all have popeyes? Okay. So Bojangles

55:45

is kind of, like, Louis Louisiana. Style,

55:48

I think it is, but they have breakfast

55:51

biscuits and, like, stuff like that, and

55:54

fried chicken. Until they go

55:56

there, sometimes Jackson actually hates it,

55:58

but Will loves it. So they'll

56:00

sometimes do that, like, really early on a Saturday

56:02

morning and then just, like, go and sit in the goodwill

56:04

parking lot until freaking goodwill opens.

56:07

Shut up. I'm not making it up,

56:09

and I'm just like, oh my god. Like,

56:11

can you give Jackson

56:13

like a GoPro or something? To document

56:16

one of their trips to goodwill. Oh,

56:18

yeah. He would actually I loved

56:21

I need to see this. Like, I I

56:23

just need to see, like, what they what

56:25

catches their eye, like, what they're interested in,

56:27

how many thing like, I just have so many

56:29

questions. Like, I I'm

56:32

so interested. How many people that are listening to this are like all time thrifter many people that

56:34

are listening to this are like all time

56:36

thrifters? Because I think that that is

56:39

I envy people who are me to fucking thrift or is that people who are -- Me too. -- fucking

56:42

thrifters, that find good shit, like,

56:44

that go. I don't know that

56:46

I I'm not a person that can, like, look through

56:48

things. Like, I just don't like to do don't even like to

56:50

go shopping in regular store that's organized. And,

56:53

like, all of those say, like, I just don't wanna

56:56

go shopping. I'm not proper. Like, if

56:58

I was doing that, I would do it. Yeah.

57:00

I just but I'm not like, I'm not gonna

57:02

look through things and, like, do all of that.

57:04

But I've seen people get some really good

57:06

stuff at goodwill. Like,

57:09

what, like, what kind of things probably

57:12

better than golf clubs, I'm sure. Well

57:14

So I actually saw, I watched, I follow this girl on Tik TOK and she's planning her wedding and she found she's buying all of her girls, bridesmaids, dresses, but she found, and she tries all of them so I actually saw I

57:17

watched I followed this girl on TikTok, and she's

57:19

planning her wedding. And she found

57:22

she's buying all of her Will's' bridesmaid's

57:24

dresses, but she found and she

57:26

tries all of them on. And, like, she has,

57:28

like, a whole aesthetic that she's going with. And she like updates and she, like, updates

57:31

everyone. And she found one of her dresses

57:33

for four dollars at Goodwill. And it's actually really, really and it's actually

57:35

really really pretty. I'll send you the video. Oh

57:37

my god. I need video evidence of need video evidence

57:39

of this, and I need everyone to

57:42

write into us and tell us, like, if you're an ultimate

57:44

thrifter, if your husband is like

57:46

an avid Will's And

57:51

then I'll determine if I'm just married to a psycho

57:53

or like a normal person. Moving

57:57

on, moving on from that? Okay. Since we are so into like American crimes and whatever, I did see this crazy

58:00

Since we are so into, like, American

58:03

Crimes and whatever, I

58:06

did see this crazy thing and I

58:08

just have to get all of y'all's

58:10

perspective on this because I

58:12

feel a type of way about it. So

58:15

I don't know if you saw that Casey Anthony

58:17

was going to be doing a

58:20

documentary about her daughter's death?

58:23

Yes. And it said that

58:25

she will be an executive producer and

58:28

they're calling it, like, an authorized documentary

58:32

and it Will's an authorized documentary

58:35

unsure. But

58:39

it basically said that she will offer

58:41

her viewpoint of the gruesome

58:43

death of her two year old, Caylee. And the co-executive producer was saying that she's finally ready to like clear her name, bring justice and shed like a different

58:46

And the

58:49

co executive producer was

58:52

saying that she's finally ready to, like, clear

58:54

her name, bring justice, and

58:58

shed, like, a different light. And

59:01

that's producer other

59:03

producers on the show are

59:05

quoted saying that many of the

59:07

revelations will be shocking. So

59:10

a couple of things on this. If

59:13

she is an executive producer of this, there's

59:15

financial benefit for her to do this.

59:18

Correct. And so I have a really

59:20

hard time on

59:23

people like who

59:27

I would say that I feel have committed

59:30

crimes. That

59:33

are so gruesome like this to

59:36

pad their Potentially benefit. Yes.

59:38

By watching it. But also it's something that I want to but also it's something that I wanna

59:40

cover. So, like, how Oh, a hundred percent.

59:43

I don't know. And that's so hard because I totally

59:45

hear you. It's like o j Simpson's book. If I

59:47

had done it, is what I would have done kinda thing.

59:49

Yes. We all know. O j fucking did

59:52

it. There's no other fucking it. There's no other fucking explanation, but

59:54

yet here we are reading his goddamn book and

59:56

supporting him and and filling his pocket. I

59:58

I hear you. Love didn't fit,

1:00:00

must quit. Yeah.

1:00:02

No. But it it he

1:00:05

he did it. And I don't you can't convince

1:00:07

me otherwise. So the

1:00:10

same thing, like, I'm

1:00:12

highly invested and I need to

1:00:15

watch I need to watch this documentary, but

1:00:17

also don't want to give her

1:00:20

I just feel like it's one of those things

1:00:22

that if you watch it,

1:00:25

you're silently supporting it.

1:00:29

Yeah. Right? Like, but

1:00:31

also I wanna watch it

1:00:33

because I followed the case so heavily.

1:00:36

Yeah. Same. That it would be

1:00:39

not natural for me not to watch it. Even though my standpoint is I don't want her to financially benefit from any of even

1:00:41

though my standpoint is I don't

1:00:43

want her to financially benefit from any

1:00:45

of this. And I find it to

1:00:47

be sickening. I would really

1:00:49

like to know how much she's making to do this

1:00:51

documentary because I

1:00:54

feel if you wanna clear your name and you really

1:00:56

didn't do it and you, you know, there's

1:00:58

so so many shocking revelations, then you should

1:01:01

be willing to do it without being finding having

1:01:03

financial Kail. I agree.

1:01:05

I definitely agree. And there's just

1:01:08

between her

1:01:12

OJ Simpson and Patsy Ramsey,

1:01:14

like, they all I

1:01:17

don't know. I can't. But you're right. I mean, I

1:01:19

I wouldn't I I'm gonna watch it, and that's

1:01:22

it sucks. It sucks when you're, like, between a

1:01:24

rock and a hard place. Like, you wanna know what

1:01:26

she's gonna say to potentially clear

1:01:28

her name. But at the end,

1:01:30

I don't think that anything she says, whatever

1:01:32

revelations you know, they think are

1:01:35

gonna sway us. There's no way

1:01:37

that I would I'm gonna be swayed. There's

1:01:39

also no way that I'm gonna be

1:01:41

swayed, but also I'm

1:01:44

going to watch it. I just

1:01:46

want What is it here? And is it on Netflix?

1:01:48

Or what is it on? I don't know if it's

1:01:50

if they've released an air date or anything

1:01:52

like that, I can do some more reads

1:01:54

I did reads. Yeah. I did read something

1:01:56

about it, and I wanna say maybe it was on,

1:01:59

like, an advert Hizeman somewhere.

1:02:01

I don't remember where I saw it or when I saw it was

1:02:03

recently, but I did see that. And was like,

1:02:05

what the hell? Like, what the I didn't know that

1:02:07

gonna be an executive producer. I thought she was gonna be interviewed.

1:02:10

I mean, how does this woman live? Where does she live?

1:02:12

How is she living? Did she change her name?

1:02:15

Like, I mean, I know people tried

1:02:17

to kill her after she was acquitted or whatever.

1:02:20

But, like, how do you live after

1:02:23

that? Like, where do you How

1:02:25

do you live a normal life? That's why I'm so

1:02:27

interested in just seeing what she has. Not that I really care what she has to not that

1:02:29

I really care what she has to say.

1:02:31

I just wanna hear what she has to say because

1:02:33

I think it's something

1:02:36

I say it's like important to life. I

1:02:38

have watched so much of everything

1:02:42

of that story, like, unfold just followed

1:02:44

it so heavily that it would be really

1:02:46

weird for me not to watch it. So I just wanna

1:02:48

know, like, how other people

1:02:50

feel about that you know, is

1:02:52

it is it silently supporting?

1:02:55

Is it being informed? Like, is it

1:02:58

what what do you consider

1:03:00

it? Because I'm a little bit conflicted on because I'm a little bit conflicted on

1:03:02

it. But then in

1:03:04

other news, probably the last thing that we have

1:03:06

time for today is

1:03:09

a question for you, Kail.

1:03:11

Someone wrote in and said, I'm curious

1:03:14

how each of you feel about gender selection I

1:03:16

have two daughters and would love to have a son, but

1:03:18

I'm wondering what you feel about it morally, financially,

1:03:21

and ethically. I've gotten a lot of pushback

1:03:23

my family when spoken about it, but there is no

1:03:25

guarantee as we all know that even

1:03:27

three or four more children would give me a boy

1:03:29

as much as I love my Will's. I'm not sure I

1:03:31

can be six kids deep, waiting for

1:03:33

a little guy to join our family. I would

1:03:35

love your feedback and thoughts. Thanks so much.

1:03:38

don't have many friends working multiple

1:03:41

jobs and as a mom with very

1:03:43

young kids and love that I feel that I have

1:03:45

girlfriends listening to your podcast. So

1:03:49

I have a lot to say about have a lot to say about this. And it's crazy that someone asked that after I told you what I'm doing, and it's

1:03:51

crazy that someone asked that after

1:03:53

I told you what I'm doing, So So

1:03:58

as everyone that listens to this nose, I have

1:04:00

four boys. I made

1:04:05

an appointment for March ninth where

1:04:07

I'm going, that's my initial appointment

1:04:09

to go through the process, to have my eggs

1:04:11

frozen. And

1:04:14

that being said, when

1:04:17

if if and when the time comes,

1:04:20

you know, if I wanna get married later on,

1:04:22

or have another child later on, you

1:04:26

know, that would be the way that I want to

1:04:28

do it just because I don't know

1:04:30

what type of health I'll be in at that point or if

1:04:32

I'll be able to conceive naturally because I've had

1:04:34

trouble in the past and know,

1:04:37

some things with my heavy periods have led

1:04:39

me to go in this direction. And

1:04:42

I was informed by Lindsay

1:04:45

and just knowing that I would be able to

1:04:47

essentially pick the genders based on the healthiest

1:04:49

embryos. I why

1:04:52

wouldn't I do gender selection? You know what I mean?

1:04:54

Like, why wouldn't I? I don't

1:04:56

care what people would have to say about

1:04:58

it. I don't care if they fail to I don't care if they I to me, I don't

1:05:00

think there's ethically anything wrong with it. I don't

1:05:02

think there's anything morally wrong with it. I

1:05:04

think that the people that are feeling

1:05:07

like it's, you know, not what God chose

1:05:09

or whatever. I mean, I'm sure there

1:05:12

are a ton of things in in their lives that God

1:05:14

didn't wouldn't have chosen for them,

1:05:16

but they, you know, sin differently than you.

1:05:18

I just I feel like you should not consider

1:05:20

anyone else's opinion on this. This is something

1:05:22

that is up to you and only you and your

1:05:24

doctor. And I personally

1:05:26

don't see anything wrong with it. I don't see anything

1:05:29

ethically wrong with it. I don't how

1:05:32

do you feel, Lindsie? Like, I don't know what

1:05:35

what more can say if, you know, if if

1:05:37

they if they come back to me, you know,

1:05:39

in five years, ten years, if I wanna have other child,

1:05:41

and they tell me, oh, you have two

1:05:44

healthy girl embryos and two

1:05:46

healthy boys. Which ones do you think I'm gonna

1:05:48

pick? Well, right because I'm

1:05:50

gonna pick the girl ones. And

1:05:53

my point to you, I didn't know if you were gonna

1:05:55

share that information, so I didn't wanna, like, say

1:05:57

anything, but when

1:06:00

you crave so much to have

1:06:04

a girl, it would be when

1:06:06

you're already going through that whole process already.

1:06:10

It's to me,

1:06:12

I see why people say that ethically,

1:06:16

you shouldn't do gender selection because

1:06:20

of your religious beliefs, whatever.

1:06:23

However, I have some

1:06:26

people that are very close to me

1:06:28

who have gone through IVF and

1:06:30

who did do gender selection. And

1:06:33

I don't think any differently of

1:06:35

them and quite honestly, you're

1:06:38

going through a science process anyway. It's

1:06:40

not a natural process. And so -- Right. --

1:06:42

for that reason, alone. I think that

1:06:44

just negates the whole argument

1:06:47

of if it's

1:06:49

wrong or right. I think that Well,

1:06:51

what's the alternative? You're gonna keep trying to

1:06:53

have kids until you have a girl and then you have

1:06:55

three kids that you essentially I'm not saying that you didn't

1:06:57

want them or that they don't you don't love them, but

1:07:00

that would be like me you

1:07:02

know, I wanna have a girl

1:07:04

so bad that I'm willing to have six kids

1:07:06

to get to the seven child that's finally a girl.

1:07:09

I mean, what's the alternative? To me, I

1:07:11

feel like why not

1:07:13

just go through the process

1:07:15

to pick the girl and then I don't bring three

1:07:18

other children into this world

1:07:21

by trying to have a girl. Right.

1:07:24

So to me, which one is more do you know

1:07:26

what I'm saying? Like, we have we live in a direct generation

1:07:28

where it's it's scientifically possible

1:07:31

to go through a process to have a baby

1:07:33

that you didn't quote unquote naturally conceive.

1:07:36

So if you have that also ability to

1:07:39

choose the gender, why I just don't see why you

1:07:41

wouldn't. So I feel like at the end of the

1:07:43

day, you're the one feeding your kids, not your

1:07:45

mother-in-law, not your mother-in-law's cousins

1:07:47

brothers to year's boyfriend. Like, none

1:07:50

of these people are feeding your kids and you're

1:07:52

taking care of them, you're living with them, you have to

1:07:54

raise them. And while they are a part of

1:07:56

that, they're not the ones that are their day

1:07:58

in and day out. So do what you want and what

1:08:00

makes you happy. That's how I feel. I

1:08:02

mean, at the end of the day, we're all going we're

1:08:05

all your mother-in-law or

1:08:07

whoever your mom, your sister. They're all gonna

1:08:09

do what they wanna do with their families and,

1:08:11

you know, maybe stop offering your opinion on their

1:08:14

life maybe they'll do they'll follow suit and stop offering

1:08:16

opinion on yours. I don't know. I won't or

1:08:18

maybe just don't fucking tell them. How about

1:08:20

that? Yeah. I was and I don't

1:08:22

I'm not saying it to be I'm not saying it in a bitchy

1:08:24

way. It's like, Kail, if you wanna have negative opinions

1:08:26

about every single thing I'm doing, I just I'm

1:08:28

not telling you anything anymore. I

1:08:31

think that's, like, the motto for

1:08:33

twenty twenty one. It's just, like,

1:08:35

don't tell anybody anything and just do what

1:08:38

makes everybody feel happy

1:08:40

and complete and whatever. Because to be

1:08:42

perfectly honest, I

1:08:45

don't really feel like any man,

1:08:49

any other woman, any whatever

1:08:51

should have, any control of

1:08:54

what a woman does with

1:08:56

her body and what decision what decisions

1:08:58

that she makes. And I think

1:09:01

that like I said, you're already going through

1:09:03

a scientific process anyway. And

1:09:05

that's just a good point. Perk of it.

1:09:07

And so -- Mhmm. -- you know, with

1:09:09

that being said, you

1:09:12

know, then you run into the okay.

1:09:14

Well, obviously, somebody's

1:09:17

choosing. right? Because if you're going through the IVF process anyway, a doctor's not going to choose to implant an unhealthy Right? Because if you're going through the IVF

1:09:19

process anyway, a doctor's not

1:09:21

going to choose to implant an unhealthy

1:09:24

embryo. So there's

1:09:26

already a selection process

1:09:29

in there to begin with. So to me,

1:09:31

it's not that big of deal. And

1:09:34

I just think I think it's so in

1:09:37

saying that we have access

1:09:39

to science in that way that

1:09:42

that can be chosen. Yeah.

1:09:44

Like, it's insane. That's such such

1:09:47

a good point. You're already going through the scientific

1:09:49

process. Like, don't know, pick

1:09:51

one friend that you're you're able to you're able

1:09:53

to trust and and doesn't judge you

1:09:56

and you feel safe with and let you know, because you

1:09:58

always you need that one person that you can talk to

1:10:00

about certain things, pick that

1:10:02

one person you trust or write into our

1:10:04

podcast, so we could discuss it for you.

1:10:07

And then just don't tell the other people the rest because

1:10:09

that's your that's your choice and your prerogative

1:10:12

and I support. I also also

1:10:14

support So anyhow, well, what are you doing

1:10:16

for the rest of the day? Anything fun? I'm

1:10:19

filming a scene, and

1:10:21

then I'm gonna take

1:10:23

my dog to the vet at three o'clock, so that's

1:10:25

fun. I feel like nothing's wrong with him just to check

1:10:27

up. Always at the vet, at the

1:10:30

doctor, at the

1:10:33

barber shop at the dermatologist

1:10:36

or the dentist? Any dermatologist? Like,

1:10:39

does it ever end? No.

1:10:41

Never. Never. Never. 00I

1:10:44

also just wanted to say that

1:10:48

I don't have frying pans in my bushes anymore.

1:10:51

And my house is complete and it feels

1:10:53

so good. It's so good. Yes. Oh

1:10:56

my god. It feels so good. I

1:10:58

spent the whole day cleaning yesterday

1:11:01

and just, like, getting all of my stuff in order.

1:11:03

I put together gift bags for something that we have

1:11:05

coming up for coffee combos and just like, yes.

1:11:08

It felt so good to just, like, have

1:11:10

my stuff in a place. But

1:11:13

anyway, Kail. Well, that's all we

1:11:15

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