In this episode, I had the opportunity to sit down with my friend Robin Wang who is the owner of Stokers Fine Pancakes in Melbourne. We discussed how he and his team has been dealing with the COVID-19 lockdown, the differences between traditional and modern methods of promoting a business. We also talked about how important between doing something you are passionate about and something just for the money. Of course, being two Taiwanese we also touched on our experiences growing up in Australia. I hope you enjoy this episode of Coffee or Tea Podcast!