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Today is Thursday, February the 8th.

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Except for that it's not, it's actually the first, but you're hearing this

1:09

on the 8th. So if

1:11

anything happened between the first and the 8th, we

1:14

should know about it. We don't know about it yet. So

1:16

don't hold it against us. Well, yeah,

1:18

or if the Atlantic shut down

1:20

between now and then. They

1:23

rename it the Pacific, you know, we didn't know. All

1:25

right, so today is our long form. Although,

1:28

Tom, I will point this out. I will

1:30

point this out. One of

1:32

the articles that I posted on our notes recently

1:37

was I had posted it and I,

1:39

and I, we went there today and

1:41

when you clicked on it, it

1:43

was gone. And that's because

1:45

the entire news site failed. The

1:48

entire news site failed. The

1:50

news site is no longer there. It doesn't

1:52

exist anymore. I got the story from a

1:54

place called the messenger and it's literally gone

1:56

now. And I only got it because it

1:58

had a link to. Fox News article and

2:01

I didn't want to have to scan all the

2:03

way down to the Fox News article. I wanted

2:05

to get their headlines so that I could click

2:07

on the Fox News article and read the piece,

2:09

but instead it's just fucking gone. Right. Yeah.

2:12

And like I will say, when I did the notes, I tried

2:14

to find, even if I found a story on Fox,

2:16

I would find it somewhere else because I

2:19

don't want to put as often as I can avoid it.

2:22

I don't want to put a Fox link in our show notes. Exactly.

2:24

So, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. The YO,

2:26

I think. Yeah, just fucking folded. I

2:28

think the Atlantic will be around. I

2:31

feel maybe it'll still be. I hope.

2:34

I don't know. I'm a subscriber. I'm

2:36

doing my part. Yeah. Like

2:38

they've got our dollars. So the January, February issue

2:40

of the Atlantic is

2:42

a two month issue and it

2:44

is what happens if Trump wins?

2:47

And it is a series of about a

2:49

dozen or so articles that really point

2:52

by point illustrates in

2:54

very practical terms, I think

2:56

generally what what's going to happen.

2:58

Like what would be the down? What would be the

3:00

effect of this? And the evidence

3:02

broadly that these articles use is a historical.

3:08

Right. What happened last time? Yeah.

3:11

And B, what has he fucking said he'll

3:13

do? Yeah. Right. What's

3:16

he what's he what is and what has he written down? What plans

3:18

does he have? So and I bring that up at the start because

3:21

I think it's an important starting point to begin

3:23

our conversation that this is not

3:26

pure speculation. Right. This

3:29

is not just like, ah, you know, you can't really know. Well,

3:32

I mean, I think you could have bought that in 2016, but in 2024,

3:34

you can't sell that

3:38

to me anymore. It's

3:40

also not hyperbole. Right. Like,

3:42

like there are going to be some things that

3:45

I think when I read these, they

3:47

didn't feel like they were hyperbolic, but some people

3:49

may take it as such. And I think all

3:52

you have to do is read where they're citing. Right. Right.

3:56

What are they citing? What are they talking about when they talk about, you

3:58

know, the things that he's planning on doing? And

4:00

you think well that doesn't seem right you just look

4:02

at what he did already and most of the stuff

4:04

They cite especially the stuff in these articles. He's

4:06

already done or at the end of his

4:08

presidency. That's where he was Exactly

4:11

exactly. So let's start

4:13

with this article Loyalists

4:16

lapdogs and cronies and a second Trump

4:18

term there would be no adults in

4:20

the room So even that headline adults

4:23

in the room the adults in the

4:25

room Phrase

4:28

is a phrase that comes from former

4:30

Trump administration officials Who

4:33

lamented the lack of adults in the room?

4:36

And they said basically that there

4:38

had to be an adult in the

4:40

room to restrain Donald Trump From

4:43

the crazy shit. He was trying to do

4:45

from 2016 to 2020 So

4:49

and there were always these restraining forces

4:51

in the prior administration Yeah,

4:54

and they talk very specifically of

4:56

the people he was very excited

4:59

to get they they hand wave

5:01

away The Steve Bannon's

5:03

and the Michael Flynn's and they say

5:05

those people are not you know They're

5:07

not the the best and the

5:09

brightest anyway, they were sick of things, right? But

5:12

the people that he was excited to get

5:14

on his staff Mathis

5:16

he was excited to get Rex

5:18

Tillerson You know when these people

5:21

came on to his staff and they

5:23

became part of his cabinet He was

5:25

excited to get him because they had

5:28

impressive provenance, right? They came to him

5:30

from a place where other

5:32

people had looked up to them Some of them were in

5:34

industry Titans of industry, you know

5:36

other people had you know, clearly

5:38

Mathis was a four-star general So

5:40

like that's an important guy who

5:43

he wanted to make sure was

5:45

his secretary of defense So

5:47

these people are are Important

5:49

to him as

5:51

a show price, right? This is

5:53

his his beautiful car that he's

5:55

able to get this is Everything

5:57

is about him. Right? Who can I? get

6:00

in this position and how does it

6:02

reflect on me? Because everything

6:05

is about him. It's not about making

6:07

the nation the best nation it can

6:09

be, getting the best and the brightest

6:11

or the most advanced in that particular

6:14

portion of government or somebody

6:16

who has really interesting ideas who hasn't had

6:18

a shot yet. No, instead it's just like

6:20

how does this reflect on me? And

6:23

you could see that in his

6:25

hires, who he hired. Those

6:27

people for the most part were gone and

6:29

washed out within two or three years because

6:32

most of those people were not sycophants. They

6:34

weren't just taking what Trump was giving. They

6:36

would push back and say, no, I don't

6:38

want to do that. Or they would argue

6:40

with him or whatever. And he would

6:42

eventually fire him or they would eventually

6:44

resign. And what you were left with

6:46

in the last year of his presidency

6:48

was a clown car full of sycophants.

6:51

That's what it was for the most part.

6:53

There was one or two people in there

6:55

that weren't. For the most part, it was

6:57

a clown car full of sycophants. And this

6:59

article is saying, expect that again.

7:01

You're not going to get any good hires

7:03

this time. All those people jumped ship. You

7:06

know, I was just listening the other day

7:08

to a breakdown of his book,

7:10

The Art of the Deal. And there's

7:13

something in it that struck me and I thought it was apropos

7:15

to this conversation. And that is that like previously

7:17

when he was a developer, a

7:19

real estate developer, Trump's

7:22

sort of like unwritten motto

7:24

was to manage by hiring the

7:26

best people and to

7:29

let those people if you hired

7:31

the best people and the most of the

7:33

people that were the best experts that they

7:35

would naturally produce the best result. Now,

7:38

if you're managing something,

7:40

that's not actually the world's worst

7:43

way to manage. Right. So

7:45

if I'm managing a company and my ethos

7:47

is, look, I'm not actually going to be

7:49

the decision maker, but

7:52

what I'm going to do is hire the

7:54

best, brightest people. And I'm going to turn

7:56

over decision making to those people. There

7:59

are worse ways to run a company. That's actually not

8:01

too much different. I'll raise my hand That's not too

8:03

much different than the way that I

8:05

manage the business that I work for in my

8:07

day-to-day life, right? So I try to I'm not

8:09

the guy who knows how to do anything there

8:12

I'm just a guy who helps make sure that the

8:14

right people know how to do the right things

8:16

and I'm good at that piece of It but

8:18

that's not what being a fucking president is

8:22

right, there is a huge fucking difference

8:24

here and his

8:26

judgment on best people is Is

8:30

clearly lacking like he is not

8:32

good at picking the best people

8:34

He is also very willing to

8:36

throw those good and best people

8:39

Under the bus when they don't embrace

8:42

his vision and that's the other important

8:44

thing that like is a distinctive point

8:46

here Is that you know if

8:48

you are a manager or a leader who

8:50

manages by hiring the best people you are

8:52

still responsible For creating the

8:54

vision right you are creating the roadmap

8:56

that all of those people Point their

8:59

efforts toward the problem

9:01

is like all of his efforts are

9:03

pointed toward shitty evil

9:05

short-sighted ill thought-out policy positions

9:08

sure like 40 of the

9:11

44 cabinet secretaries from

9:14

his 2016 to 2020 presidential

9:17

administration only four of

9:19

them one in 11 Less

9:22

than 10 percent have

9:24

endorsed him for his new presidential

9:26

bid Fully 40

9:28

out of 44 are

9:31

like hey, I worked there

9:33

that guy sucks When

9:35

like all of your fucking former close

9:37

advisors are just like not

9:40

that dude that dude fucking sucks That's

9:43

damning. That's absolutely damning You

9:45

know some of those people they just

9:47

stopped seeing eye to eye to him while they were

9:49

still working there And absolutely right so some of those

9:51

people They didn't they were

9:53

never gonna be one of these people

9:55

who endorsed him But some of those

9:58

people guaranteed finished his administration

10:00

out. They rolled out till the

10:02

end with him. And if

10:04

you can only get four of those people

10:06

on board, and these, I mean,

10:08

Tom, he still had a mostly full administration,

10:11

don't get me wrong, a couple of those jobs

10:13

were in interim people because they left because of

10:15

January 6th, but there were still people that were

10:17

working for him. Oh yeah. They still had, you

10:20

know, only four of them? Yeah. That's, of

10:23

all the things that we should be paying

10:25

attention to, that's one that you should be

10:27

looking at and being like, well why is

10:29

that? Why did they do that? Why won't

10:32

they endorse him? They know behind closed doors

10:34

this guy's an absolute schmuck and he doesn't

10:36

know what he's doing. He's literally, he's

10:38

just watching Fox News and throwing ketchup

10:40

against the wall. And like, let's talk

10:42

about some of the people that Trump

10:45

is floating or are being floated

10:47

potentially for high-level positions in a

10:49

new administration because it will give

10:51

you a flavor of the genuine

10:54

incompetence of these folks,

10:56

right? So Stephen Miller.

10:59

Yeah. Stephen Miller is one of

11:01

the worst people that's ever crawled

11:04

around on two legs. He

11:06

is a piece of fucking primordial

11:08

ooze presenting himself as a man

11:10

in a suit. Stephen

11:12

Miller's a monster. And he's done, and

11:15

he's, he's done more for

11:17

anti-immigration causes than, than

11:20

a hundred years of, of presidents. He's

11:23

the architect of title 42. Like

11:25

he's the one who found, I mean, title

11:28

42 is like this weird loophole they found

11:30

that they can then just keep people out

11:32

of the country. All they have to do

11:34

is just blame COVID. And then they can

11:36

create these really draconian laws and, and, and

11:38

use this particular piece

11:41

of legislation that's on the books to then

11:43

force people away, you know, legitimate asylum seekers.

11:46

And it's not made for that, but they

11:48

went out of the way to do it.

11:50

And then they did a bunch of shit. Like I've

11:52

been paying attention to immigration stuff. I did this other

11:54

podcast, lawful assembly with a, with a friend of mine,

11:56

Craig, and Craig was a law professor at the university

11:58

I was working at. And he and I

12:00

used to talk about this stuff on a previous show

12:03

that we were doing for the university. And I knew

12:05

about this Title 42 stuff, you

12:07

know, a couple years ago. And what they

12:09

would do is they would have these moments

12:11

where the government has to

12:13

tell you when they're gonna be changing some of

12:16

these rules. They let people sort of weigh in.

12:18

They say, we're gonna be making some changes to

12:20

the rules. Now's your opportunity to comment

12:23

on these rules. And so lawyers across

12:25

the country, if they're plugged in, can

12:27

get an opportunity to comment on these

12:29

things. But so can the public. And

12:32

you would have no idea that these

12:34

comments were open unless you were plugged into

12:36

these immigration networks. You never heard about it

12:38

on this television. You never heard about it

12:41

anywhere else. The only way I ever heard

12:43

about it was Craig. The only reason I

12:45

ever knew that stuff was ever happening was

12:47

because Craig, and it's like they're opening

12:49

the gate to just be like, shh, don't say anything. They're gonna

12:51

just open it just for a second. And then we're just gonna

12:53

close it as quickly. And that's what they did. They

12:56

did a ton of stuff under the radar without

12:58

letting anyone know. And then they were changing

13:01

these laws, taking all the

13:03

comments in, and then just changing the laws. This

13:06

guy literally is the worst thing

13:08

to happen to immigration in a long time. He's

13:10

an awful person. And like he is the champion

13:12

of the family separation policy. Absolutely.

13:14

The family separation policy, where like

13:17

it was the policy of the

13:19

prior administration to literally rip families

13:21

apart as a way to cause

13:23

a maximum amount of suffering as

13:26

a disincentive to other people

13:30

to not come over and seek

13:32

asylum through the asylum process. They

13:34

were just like literally creating that this

13:36

guy, by the way, is being

13:38

floated in a new administration.

13:40

So, you know, just to give

13:42

a flavor of who this guy

13:45

is, in a second Trump term,

13:47

he is likely to get significant

13:49

influence, perhaps be named head of

13:52

Immigrations and Custom Enforcement, possibly Secretary

13:54

of Homeland Security, or Chief

13:56

of Staff. The other thing too, that I want

13:58

to point out, know, I think

14:01

you and I know that they were doing

14:03

that to cause harm, right? They're doing that

14:05

very specific thing, separating people to cause harm.

14:07

And the reason why you and I know that is because Jeff

14:09

Sessions literally said that out loud. Right?

14:11

Like he said that in a

14:14

press conference, he said, we are

14:16

separating families as a deterrent. Like

14:18

he said that out loud. So

14:20

they are, these are people who

14:22

cross the desert looking like these

14:24

are people who cross an entire

14:26

country, maybe several countries looking for a

14:29

way to get away from the horrible

14:31

situation they're in looking for asylum. And

14:33

what we did was we say, cool.

14:35

Yeah, I'm just going to take your

14:37

baby. Yeah.

14:39

It's this and this guy who

14:41

created that was the champion for that, who stood

14:43

for that guy's going to be the fucking White

14:45

House chief of staff or that guy's

14:47

going to be the head of immigration or that guy's

14:49

going to be Homeland security or Homeland secretary. The

14:52

Richard Grenell, ambassador

14:55

to Germany in 2018. He's

14:57

a fucking Twitter, Twitter troll. That's

14:59

who he is. He's a fucking Twitter

15:02

stronger to fucking federal judgeships. So why

15:04

wouldn't he point a Twitter troll to

15:06

fucking some other thing? This is a

15:09

guy who is very likely to become

15:11

attorney general. He's

15:13

a fucking Twitter troll, man. That's what he

15:15

is. He's a guy. The Germans were basically

15:17

like, we don't want to work with this

15:19

guy anymore. This guy is

15:22

incompetent. Yeah. Like Germany

15:24

like that is a key European ally for

15:26

the United States. He became diplomat in 2018

15:29

and Germany was like, we're like, they're throwing up

15:31

their hands. Like we can't fucking work with that

15:33

guy. This motherfucker is going to be the attorney

15:36

general, man. No, they're saying

15:38

that he would be, uh, he wouldn't

15:40

be the attorney general. The attorney general

15:42

ones that they were suggesting were different

15:44

people. They're saying Mike Lee, Josh Holly.

15:47

They also suggested Jeffrey Clark. I think for

15:49

him, they were saying that he might be

15:51

a somebody who, uh, is,

15:53

uh, involved in as an

15:55

ambassador in Europe. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Let

15:57

me double check. Let me go. I

16:00

was misreading my scan as I scanned back through

16:02

it. So Secretary of State Secretary

16:04

of State even even a war is

16:06

that worse than I thought it's Secretary of State. It's worse

16:09

than you That's worse than I thought it's worse than you

16:11

thought. Yeah, this yeah, and then yeah

16:13

So he was an ambassador before he

16:15

might be Secretary of State now But the

16:17

other like I said the other like think

16:19

of how awful it would be to have

16:21

Attorney General who's Ted Cruz like

16:25

Up to the podium each day We're

16:29

separating people at the border man, I'm going

16:31

to kink Like

16:34

yeah, but then Jeff Jeffrey Clark's another

16:37

one that I'm just like are you fucking

16:39

kidding me that guy's fucking he's gonna be

16:41

on trial In Georgia. Yeah, these are criminals.

16:43

This is a this is a list of

16:46

people who've been fucking indicted like this

16:50

The Attorney General shortlist includes Ted

16:52

Cruz Mike Lee and Josh Hawley

16:55

along with Jeffrey Clark Holy

16:57

shit, that is like yeah, that

17:00

is a list of evil villains like that

17:02

Like they all live together in bunk beds

17:05

in a fucking volcano lower. Are

17:07

you kidding me? Yeah,

17:10

man, yeah somebody gets to lay on on

17:12

Ted cuz he can form into anything Forming

17:15

the mattress he just turns

17:17

in and then they just lay on Ted

17:19

together But that Rama Swamy guy is gonna

17:21

get a fucking high level mention Rama Swamy.

17:23

Yeah, Rama Swamy. There's a possibility He could

17:25

it that I love this to United he

17:28

could be the ambassador for the United Nation

17:30

Reasonings that he's a good talk. I read

17:32

that I love when Trump is

17:34

like he's a good talker He's

17:36

going at the word is a good talker. He's

17:38

got the talking going on. Yeah, I'm talking.

17:40

He's got them talking talking

17:43

good genuinely a Horror

17:45

of all the people because of

17:48

all the things we mentioned do not do

17:50

not mistake that what will happen Is is

17:52

he's gonna get a pile of sycophants? Yeah,

17:54

who are in competence to run this nation

17:56

and they're either gonna run it badly in

17:59

an evil way or Incompetently,

18:02

that's your choice. I mean that's like this is where we

18:04

sit This is it in a place where either they're

18:06

gonna be actively being evil

18:08

or they're gonna be completely in common And that's why

18:10

I wanted to start with this story as the lead-in

18:13

Because what I think this story and we'll

18:15

go through the next three stories What I

18:17

think this story lays the groundwork for is

18:19

that? Unlike in the prior

18:21

2016 administration. There are

18:23

no Restraining forces.

18:26

Yeah on the governors off

18:28

the engines Yep, governor's

18:30

off governor's are off. That's exactly right. Yep.

18:32

You can just you can just fucking it's

18:34

gonna be all gas No breaks straight

18:37

off a fucking cliff if he gets so so

18:39

the the idea that I think a lot of

18:41

people had in 2016 was You

18:44

know, oh, I mean he says this but he won't really do it

18:46

He says this but they won't let him do it, you know Oh

18:49

cooler heads will prevail and to

18:51

some degree in 2016

18:54

through 2020 there were times when very

18:56

clearly that was the truth and Those

18:59

people got fucking fired in

19:02

large part for putting the government

19:04

left Where they left and they're not coming

19:06

back So what's gonna happen next

19:09

is the worst people a bunch

19:11

of sycophantic? Yes people a bunch of

19:13

people who are architects of misery They

19:17

are gonna be the leaders of

19:19

the free world there. You're gonna have so so let's

19:22

let's launch into our Our

19:24

next story about what happens if Trump wins.

19:26

This is a story called Trump

19:28

will abandon NATO and I

19:31

love that they pull no punches. It

19:33

doesn't say might If

19:37

Trump wins Trump will abandon NATO He's

19:40

definitely gonna do it. He doesn't he doesn't find

19:42

any value in it. There's been

19:44

obvious links to him I mean

19:47

when we talk about a link to him in Putin just

19:49

look at how he acquiesces Yeah, right I'm not talking about

19:51

just forget all other stuff right forget

19:54

about everything else forget about anything that

19:56

has maybe a possible connection

19:58

between the two or that You know,

20:00

he was getting Russian money from somewhere

20:02

or whatever. Don't think about any of that

20:04

stuff. Just think about how he defers to

20:06

him even in public. Remember when

20:09

he came out when Putin was and him had

20:11

that conversation. He said, well, he did say he

20:13

didn't do that. I'm sure I can trust a

20:15

tax KGB guy. I mean, he said he didn't

20:17

say it. He must not die. I

20:19

looked into his eyes and I saw a very honorable

20:21

man. This guy, this fucking

20:23

art of the deal fucking huckster has

20:25

no idea that he's being manipulated by

20:28

Putin. And then it happens every single

20:30

time and he would and he does

20:32

not want to piss Putin off. He's

20:34

shown time and time again. He won't stand up

20:36

to him. So what would happen if he was

20:38

in office right now? Well, I certainly wouldn't be

20:40

any Ukraine aid that I mean, there wouldn't be

20:42

any of that. So we would

20:44

be in a position right now where Putin would

20:47

have his choice at what he wants to

20:49

go after next because this would already be

20:51

his. So we're in a position

20:53

if he gets in there, his, do

20:55

you think he cares at all about him? He doesn't care about

20:57

NATO. He give a fuck. He doesn't care

20:59

at all. In fact, what he was complaining about

21:02

was how much money we have to spend.

21:04

You know, that's exactly why. Trump's

21:07

big fucking talking point, which is a

21:09

bullshit talking point, was that European countries

21:11

weren't paying their freight on

21:13

NATO and the United States was paying a

21:16

disproportionate share of NATO. So it's a bad

21:18

deal and we should just get the fuck

21:20

out of NATO. And it was

21:22

founded in 1949 after the after

21:25

after the Second World War. So

21:27

we could say, all right, look, there

21:29

is now a rising threat coming

21:32

from the Soviet Union. We

21:34

don't ever want to have a land war in

21:36

fucking Europe again. We've got

21:39

to avoid that. We've got to bind

21:41

ourselves together. It is a

21:43

75 year long or thereabouts military

21:45

alliance founded on the principle that

21:47

an attack on one NATO nation

21:49

is an attack on all

21:51

NATO nations. And that

21:54

restraining force has in large

21:56

part kept the peace between

21:58

Eastern and Western Europe even

22:01

during high-tension moments like the

22:03

fall of the Soviet Union

22:05

and the establishment of the

22:07

Russian state. As the

22:09

Russian state has sought expressly

22:11

and out loud to rebuild

22:13

the Soviet Union, what

22:16

they want is to, and I'm saying

22:18

this because it's what they fucking said,

22:20

right? So this is speculation. This isn't

22:22

the Tom Curry thinks this might be

22:24

what's true. This is what was fucking

22:26

said by Putin, right? He wants to

22:28

reestablish the dominance of the former Soviet

22:30

Union by recapturing former Soviet territories. He

22:33

will not stop at Ukraine. And

22:35

make no mistake, like if NATO falls,

22:38

Ukraine immediately falls. And Belarus gets sucked

22:40

up in there too. And why the

22:42

fuck not invade Poland while we're at

22:44

it? What is Poland going to do

22:46

to stop, right? The

22:48

imperialistic designs of

22:50

Russia are out there. They're

22:53

out loud. They are not a

22:55

matter of speculation. They're a matter

22:57

of current and active warfare. The

23:01

idea that we could pull out of

23:03

fucking NATO would be

23:06

a humanitarian and economic tragedy.

23:09

It's a fucking world war, man. It's

23:11

a fucking world war. You

23:13

pull out of that, he has... You

23:17

pull out, the red carpet goes down.

23:19

That's right. It is literally

23:21

an invitation for him to do

23:24

whatever he wants. This

23:26

is... This would be...

23:29

Again, we're talking

23:31

about interior

23:34

United States policy in the previous story, right?

23:36

Because a lot of those jobs happen to

23:38

be interior jobs. But

23:41

think about not just who

23:43

he's going to... What he's

23:45

going to do with NATO in this

23:48

situation. Think about the people he'd hire

23:50

that would then push this anti-NATO policy

23:52

throughout all

23:54

the ambassadorships that he has. Think about

23:57

the different relationships that he can ruin.

24:00

He doesn't have qualified, good people in

24:02

those positions. He kicks people out and

24:04

puts up sycophants who want to fucking

24:06

start fights with other nations. We've

24:09

had long traditions of being friendly

24:11

with. I mean, he could ruin so

24:13

much of our foreign policy in

24:15

four years. He could literally just burn

24:17

it all. Yeah.

24:21

And from this article, I just want to read this from this

24:23

article, so I think this is worth saying. During

24:27

Trump's time in office, the withdrawal from NATO never happened. That

24:29

was because somebody was always there to talk him out of

24:31

it. This is why I want to read that first article

24:33

first. Bolton, John Bolton, says

24:36

he did. Jim Mattis, John Kelly,

24:38

Rex Tillerson, Mike Pompeo, and even

24:40

Mike Pence are thought to have

24:42

also done so. So

24:45

it never changed his mind. They basically all were

24:47

like, you can't do it now, you can't do

24:49

it now, you can't do it now, you can't

24:52

do it now. There's no one, he is not

24:54

going to hire people who tell him honest things

24:57

in the second administration. He is not going

24:59

to hire people who in any way do

25:01

not support his fucking worldview. We know this

25:03

because he said so. Right.

25:06

Again, not speculation. So he's

25:09

going to fucking pull out of NATO, man. He's

25:11

going to pull out of NATO. And then all

25:13

of the European forces are going to

25:15

say, well, fuck, without the United States,

25:17

who's the big swing and dick, we

25:19

all have to take our forces and

25:21

bring them home to protect our own

25:23

borders. They know Europe no longer than

25:25

has the luxury of uniting

25:27

together to support one another because

25:30

they're all fractions now. You know

25:32

what I mean? They're all smaller

25:34

because they don't have the big

25:36

gun behind them. This

25:39

also has implications in the East

25:41

with China and Taiwan. Again,

25:44

China and Taiwan would

25:46

not, Taiwan is not a part of

25:48

NATO. I understand that. But again, there

25:50

is a sense, a global and international

25:53

sense that the United

25:55

States has military ally ships

25:57

that I can call upon.

26:00

in times of crisis and

26:02

build these coalitions. If

26:04

we damage those relationships, we cannot

26:06

build up on those ally

26:09

ships, we can't build coalitions. So it's not

26:11

like it's just a problem in Eastern Western

26:14

Europe, this would also be a problem in

26:16

the East with China. Because

26:18

China's expressly said they want to take

26:20

back Taiwan and we're just like hanging

26:22

out with fucking battleships and fucking aircraft

26:24

carriers, providing a restraining force. But like

26:26

if we stop doing that shit, yeah,

26:29

Trump leads, Trump pulls them all out. Trump's gonna pull those guys

26:31

out of there. And like China's gonna

26:34

take over fucking Taiwan, like it's almost

26:36

a guarantee. Like there

26:38

would be without NATO and

26:40

the United States' attachment with

26:43

NATO, there is a strong

26:45

likelihood of fraction and chaos

26:47

and international war and

26:50

economic crisis. This

26:53

guy isn't just a force of chaos

26:55

here in the States, he's a force

26:57

of chaos for the entire fucking world,

26:59

man. He is genuinely the fucking, he's

27:01

the fly in the ointment for the

27:03

whole thing. He throws the whole thing

27:05

off of the stability of the entire

27:07

globe. And not just, we're gonna talk

27:09

about a couple stories later, we're gonna

27:11

talk about a climate change story. The

27:14

entire globe hinges on this next election. This

27:16

isn't just us, this is the whole globe

27:18

it hinges on. There's like a hundred ways,

27:20

let's talk about that next article, because there

27:23

are like a hundred ways why

27:25

genuinely the 2024 election is

27:27

existential. That

27:30

is not an exaggeration. In

27:33

this particular article, the one about the fucking climate

27:35

change, they talk about in the very beginning, they're

27:37

talking about how they had to fucking go

27:39

and start pulling data and

27:42

collecting data that they knew that

27:44

Trump was gonna try to hide or try to

27:46

pull down as soon as

27:48

he took office. That leads people to

27:51

believe that it has evidence of climate

27:53

change. And he did, he very much as

27:55

soon as he took office, he not only

27:57

gutted the EPA, only

28:00

change pulled us out of the Paris

28:02

Accords but did a whole bunch of

28:04

other things in policy to try to

28:06

gut any kind of environmental anything, pushed

28:08

away from green energy, tried to fight

28:11

California when they wanted to go

28:13

with more fuel efficient cars, tried

28:15

to spend his whole fucking goddamn

28:17

presidency arguing about fucking low flow

28:19

toilets in the lower ed. And

28:23

then he very much pulled every

28:26

fucking bit of data off the

28:28

fucking website because he immediately on

28:30

the website for the EPA and

28:32

for the White House, he fucking

28:35

scrubbed it about environmental concerns immediately

28:37

as soon as he took office

28:39

because that is his

28:42

absolutely, you will never get a

28:45

piece of him or a piece of

28:47

his administration to push anywhere that is

28:50

conservationist in any way. That's not gonna

28:52

happen. So if he goes in, again,

28:54

it's all gas, no brakes. And can

28:56

the world take an all gas, no

28:58

brakes for more use of Trump when

29:01

it comes to this sort of thing? Yeah. And

29:04

like from this article, I think this is a great point. I want to read this direct. Pulling

29:06

out of the Paris agreements might be

29:09

a largely symbolic move, but it could

29:11

have a domino effect. India, Indonesia, Brazil,

29:13

if they see that the US is

29:15

not acting, it will be easy for

29:17

conservative politicians in those countries to say,

29:20

those big rich guys aren't doing anything. Why

29:22

should we? That's super fucking

29:24

true. What

29:27

we do, the world has a

29:29

tendency to follow or feel pressured

29:31

by. And in each

29:34

of those countries named India, Indonesia, Brazil,

29:36

you have really fucking

29:39

conservative governments, man. And

29:41

we have real issues across the globe

29:43

that need to be addressed in terms

29:45

of climate change. It's not just the

29:47

United States pulling out of the Paris

29:50

agreement. It would essentially collapse the whole

29:52

agreement. So it's

29:54

not just like, oh, we're not doing this.

29:56

The whole agreement would basically fucking fall apart.

30:00

If we don't act on climate change

30:02

in the next four years, what we're gonna then, we're gonna do,

30:04

oh, we will promise we'll do it in four more. And then

30:07

we'll promise we'll do it in four more. We're

30:09

just not gonna fucking do it. We're just

30:11

not gonna do it. And if we

30:13

don't do it, we're fucked. We're

30:15

seriously, absolutely fucked.

30:18

The only thing so far in climate

30:20

change that the science has gotten wrong

30:23

is they have underestimated the speed and

30:25

the effect. Speed. That's it. They've

30:28

underestimated the speed and the effect. They've

30:30

not gotten it wrong in terms of

30:33

what's going to happen. Just like, geez, we thought we'd

30:35

have longer. And then we keep finding out, like, nope,

30:37

we don't have longer. We have less time than we

30:39

said. We thought we'd have 100 years. We don't have

30:41

100 years. We don't have even close to

30:43

100 years. And 100 years is a

30:45

fucking blink of an eye. If you've got like, I

30:49

think about this with my kids. And

30:51

I tell my kids flat out, don't have

30:53

fucking kids, man. Because the math

30:55

doesn't make sense. Because like, my

30:57

son who's born in 2006, if he lives to 80 years, he dies

30:59

in 2086. If

31:03

he has kids when he's 30 like I did, and

31:05

that kid's lived, he'll have a kid at 30, and

31:10

that kid lives, let's say, 80 years, his

31:12

kid's gonna live till 2116. And

31:16

I'm supposed to look out at the world and say, I

31:18

think the world is gonna be a great place for you

31:20

to live in 2086. Where

31:23

I think it's gonna be a great place for you

31:25

to bring kids into the world, you know,

31:27

and they're gonna be a part of the world beginning in

31:29

2036. They'll come of age

31:31

in what, 2054? They'll

31:34

come of age at 18? They'll go through

31:36

college, let's say, at 2058? And

31:39

I think I'm gonna be able to look those kids in

31:41

the eye and say, yeah, I think the world will be

31:43

worth living in. I think it's gonna be hard, man. I

31:45

mean, if you're not fucking just rich, it's gonna be hard.

31:48

Really hard. I was

31:50

watching a video by, they

31:54

were interviewing Brian Cox. I don't know if you

31:56

know who that is, but he's a physicist and

31:59

really smart guy. I mean, he's talking about

32:01

all kinds of like different things and the

32:04

existential threat that we pose to

32:06

ourselves is one of the, that's

32:08

one of the pieces of the

32:12

Drake equation, right? So one of

32:14

the pieces is what happens when

32:16

we, you

32:18

know, when these societies that the Drake

32:21

equation is trying to find extraterrestrial life

32:23

and several of those equations, several pieces

32:25

of that equation have to do with

32:28

why is it so hard to see that?

32:30

Why is it so hard to find life

32:32

in the universe? And what happens

32:34

is there's a possibility that you get

32:37

to a certain point and

32:39

you wipe yourself out. Right? Like

32:41

you get to a point where there's, you

32:43

know, the possibility of

32:45

a, you know, a pathogen that

32:48

you create or

32:50

you don't pay attention to. There's

32:52

a possibility of nuclear annihilation. There's

32:54

a possibility of, you know, all

32:56

these, you know, a war that,

33:00

or a man-made climate change that

33:02

we basically, you know, create an

33:04

environment that we can no longer

33:06

live in. And he's talking about it.

33:08

And one of the things he said was, you know,

33:11

I wish every single leader in the world

33:14

could go up into space and see

33:16

the world from space and

33:18

just look at the world and then look

33:21

out at that blackness. And

33:23

then hopefully that they realize that,

33:25

you know, we could be

33:27

the only intelligent life in this

33:29

galaxy. That's a possibility, right? And

33:32

we're gonna wipe ourselves

33:35

out. Like your

33:37

decision-making needs to be more

33:39

broad and it

33:41

needs to take more things into consideration when

33:43

you're in this position of power. And

33:47

we're so short-sighted as a species

33:49

that we keep doing these bad

33:51

things because we just don't, we

33:53

can't look ahead. When

33:55

you talk about climate change and you talk about stuff that's

33:58

gonna happen in 20 years, literally no one will live. listen

34:00

to you, nobody cares, nobody gives a

34:02

shit. And we need to change how

34:04

we think about that. We're not, we

34:06

don't have a plan on how to

34:08

change how we think about it. We

34:11

have a bunch of ideas on things that we can

34:13

do that can maybe change

34:15

the world, but now you've gotta

34:17

get a lot of the people, the older people

34:19

who are in charge on board with them and

34:22

none of them are. And let me tell you,

34:24

Trump sure is fucking. Trump is not. And I

34:26

wanna read again directly from the article. So

34:30

there are very, very influential fossil

34:32

fuel led groups such as the

34:34

Heritage Foundation and the American First

34:37

Policy Institute. And they are right

34:39

now building a battle plan to

34:42

block electricity grid updates that would

34:44

allow for solar and wind expansion.

34:48

They are building a plan to

34:50

make sure that our grids do

34:53

not get updated to allow

34:55

for clean energy sources to be

34:57

funneled into the fucking grid because

35:00

they are owned by fossil fuel

35:02

companies. Yep. Like

35:04

we are at this intensely frustrating

35:07

point where we might technologically be

35:10

approaching the ability to beat this

35:12

thing. If we would just

35:14

treat this like what it is, if

35:16

we would just say, hey, why don't we

35:18

all get together and decide that we shouldn't

35:20

fucking ruin the only earth that we have,

35:22

the only home that we have to live

35:24

on? Instead, it's like we're

35:26

getting together and we're saying, why don't

35:29

we commit slow motion suicide and

35:32

jerk off to money while we do it? Why

35:34

don't we wrap our fucking dicks in

35:37

dollar bills and then kill ourselves by

35:40

drinking a fucking gallon of kerosene? There

35:43

are things that we can do and we're

35:45

aggressively, that's what I mean, like we are

35:47

blocking electrical grid updates so

35:49

that we can't fix the problem.

35:52

We are getting

35:54

in the way of California passing

35:56

their own car pollution standards because

35:58

their car pollution standards. would

36:00

greatly influence all the vehicles made and

36:02

manufactured here in the states, which would

36:05

damage, again, the fossil fuel industry. So

36:07

we are actually infringing

36:09

upon states' rights in order to

36:12

make sure that that state doesn't

36:14

do something that doesn't fucking enrich

36:16

BPMico, or doesn't enrich Shell Oil,

36:19

or doesn't enrich, you know, whatever

36:21

all these other motherfuckers, right? None

36:23

of those guys have our best

36:26

interests at heart. They have concentrated

36:28

PR campaigns to lie to us,

36:31

to make this slow motion

36:34

suicide seem like something that's in

36:36

our best interest. It's objectively not.

36:39

It is objectively not. We are going

36:41

to gut the Clean Power Divisions of

36:43

the Department of Energy. We are going

36:45

to gut the EPA. This

36:47

is what's going to happen. We are going

36:49

to set ourselves, in four years, we'll set ourselves back

36:51

20 years. We

36:53

really will. Because it's so easy

36:55

to break things, man. We let people

36:58

make decisions that they will

37:00

not have to live to see the consequences of. It's

37:02

fucking right. Man, what

37:05

we need is an

37:07

influx of younger people in government

37:09

who will live to see the

37:11

consequences of their actions on these

37:14

things. You know, because

37:16

Trump's going to be dead in 15 years, you

37:18

know, he's not going to be around in 15

37:20

years. The people that are in

37:22

government, Mitch McConnell, he's going to live another 15 years.

37:25

Mitch McConnell's not going to live another 15. The generians

37:27

don't give a shit, they'll be dead. And I'll

37:29

tell you, you know, fucking Chuck Grassley's not going to

37:31

live another 10 years. Joe

37:34

Biden probably won't live another 10 years. These

37:36

are the people who are in charge

37:38

of what's happening right now. They're not

37:40

going to live past 10 years. So

37:43

it doesn't matter. Like, put somebody in

37:45

charge who's in their 40s, who's

37:47

got to look out after at another possible

37:49

40 years of life and

37:51

be like, okay, I

37:53

need to I need to think about how I'm

37:56

making these decisions for

37:58

40 years in the future. Because

38:01

nobody's making those decisions like that now.

38:03

Yeah, man. Let's talk about this next

38:05

article, the last one that we're gonna talk about today. The

38:08

specter of family separation. Donald

38:10

Trump and his allies have

38:12

promised to restore their draconian,

38:14

zero-tolerance immigration policy. Cecil,

38:17

I know you and Craig talk a lot about

38:19

immigration on your show, Lawful Assembly, and

38:21

it's an issue that's near and dear to your heart.

38:24

The Trump administration's immigration

38:27

policies would be

38:29

based entirely in cruelty. This

38:33

is bad policy, even if

38:35

your goal is to reduce the flow of

38:40

migrant asylum seekers, this

38:43

does not accomplish that goal. The

38:46

only thing this accomplishes is

38:48

it accomplishes cruelty for

38:50

photo ops to appeal to bigots.

38:54

That's exactly it. I wanna read a piece of this. It

38:56

says, if given another chance to realize his goal,

38:59

Stephen Miller, who we talked about earlier, that

39:01

evil hobgoblin, has essentially boasted

39:03

in recent interviews that he

39:05

would move even faster and

39:07

more forcefully. And Trump, who's

39:09

been campaigning on the promise

39:12

to finish the job he

39:14

started on immigration policy, would

39:16

fairly assume if he's reelected

39:18

that harsh restrictions in that

39:20

arena are precisely what the

39:22

American people want. Following

39:25

the Eisenhower model, we will

39:27

carry out the largest

39:29

domestic deportation operation in

39:32

American history, end quote. He declared

39:34

in a speech in Iowa in

39:36

September, referring to 1954's

39:38

offensively titled Operation Wetback, under

39:43

which hundreds of thousands

39:45

of people with Mexican ancestry

39:48

were deported, including some who

39:50

were American citizens. Here's the

39:52

thing that people don't understand.

39:54

This happens all the time.

39:56

We start creating these shitty.

40:00

rules these shitty policies these

40:02

these essentially stop and frisk

40:04

for migrants and What

40:06

you do is you wind up

40:08

hurting not just that vulnerable population

40:11

But you also hurt American citizens

40:14

very often American citizens are the

40:16

people who are attacked by this

40:18

and they're the ones like Look

40:20

at this. They're fucking deported actual

40:22

American citizens This is this is

40:25

our country's heritage has happened before

40:27

What we need to do is step away

40:30

from that and never let it happen again

40:32

But Trump is like, you know what? We're

40:34

gonna make America great again from back before

40:36

segregation for real What is astonishing to

40:38

me? Is it during segregation not black?

40:45

You know what I meant I

40:47

am astonished Cecil that there is

40:49

a growing contingent of Latin

40:52

American voters Backing

40:54

Trump. Yeah, man when Trump

40:56

immigration policy mimics the 1954

40:59

policy called Operation wetback Yep,

41:03

it is. He has just

41:05

it out now racist man. He

41:07

they're looking for people who look

41:09

foreign They're looking for people

41:11

who just look Foreign,

41:13

that's not a criteria man

41:15

in a multicultural nation What

41:17

the fuck does look foreign

41:19

even fucking mean it means

41:21

nothing It means racism will

41:24

be ensconced as policy as

41:26

policy They're talking about and

41:28

this is just straight up

41:30

like from like the talking points

41:32

from Trump and other key fixtures

41:35

in his office They are going

41:37

to reinstate family separation They are

41:39

going to mobilize the DEA the

41:41

FBI and the National Guard along

41:43

with ICE agents to make arrests

41:46

They are and you mentioned this before

41:48

they are gonna reimpose the pandemic related

41:50

expulsion policy known as title 42 They

41:54

are going to expand the use of

41:56

military style camps to house people who

41:58

are caught up in these enforcement

42:00

drag nets. Again, these are

42:02

largely asylum seekers. These are

42:04

not criminals. They have,

42:07

they're going to screen

42:10

people, screen potential

42:12

immigrants for Marxist views

42:15

before allowing them entry. They are going

42:18

to use the Alien and Sedition Act

42:20

in service of deportations. They are going

42:22

to invoke the Insurrection Act to allow

42:25

them to deploy the US military on

42:28

the border. They're going to use a

42:30

naval blockade between the United States and

42:32

Latin America to fight the drug trade

42:34

as if that has fucking anything at

42:37

all to do with immigration. Spoiler,

42:39

it fucking doesn't. That

42:42

is a fucking red herring. The whole

42:44

drug structure comes through

42:46

ports and entry. 90% of the drugs come

42:48

through ports and entry. It's just

42:50

a stupid thing to

42:53

think. And if you don't think he's going

42:55

to mobilize the border patrol, I will remind

42:57

you of a time

42:59

during the George Floyd protests

43:01

where he mobilized the border

43:04

patrol and black vans to

43:06

abduct people in Portland. So

43:08

I don't know if you remember that.

43:11

I remember that. He had mobilized the

43:13

fucking border patrol, which is America's largest

43:15

police force, to become his essential, essentially

43:18

his jackbooted thugs to drive

43:21

around wherever he wanted and abduct people

43:23

off the street. So if you don't

43:25

think that's going to happen in the last

43:27

year of his presidency, he already did that.

43:29

He's just going to be doing it to

43:31

a group of people that his

43:33

constituency wants to see hurt.

43:35

That's it. That's

43:37

the entirety of Trump's draw to them.

43:39

His entirety Trump's draw is, if you

43:41

can hurt the people I don't like, then

43:44

I will like you. He's going to trigger

43:46

the libs. He's going to go after the

43:48

immigrants. And that's going to make me happy. It's

43:50

not going to make me anything else. He's going

43:52

to burn the world down around me. He's going

43:54

to surround himself in sycophants. The world's going

43:56

to fall to shit because we're going to pull out

43:58

of all of our obligations. Throughout the

44:00

world, but guess what he made those

44:02

people mad and that's enough. That's it.

44:05

That's it We if we have a

44:07

troll in chief, we will get

44:09

troll results and that is

44:11

a value percent I you know to wrap

44:13

up this episode I want to

44:15

read the title and the blurb for

44:18

the articles we didn't get to because

44:20

this is not a Fraction

44:23

of the damage that would be done by

44:25

a 2024 presidential election win

44:27

by Donald Trump again It's fucking

44:29

existential. It is genuinely

44:31

existential. So There's

44:34

an article called how Trump gets away with it I've

44:36

read this whole issue if elected

44:38

if reelected rather he would use the powers

44:40

of the presidency to invade justice and Punish

44:43

his enemies again, we know that cuz he

44:45

fucking said it fucking said said

44:47

that out loud, right? Four

44:49

more years of unchecked misogyny

44:52

in a second Trump term women

44:54

would once again be targets again

44:57

He targets women as a matter of course Trump

45:00

Trump has attacked women from

45:02

the moment. He's opened his mouth on

45:04

the political stage and he has never Stopped

45:08

doing it 51% of the population.

45:10

He has no fucking respect for and

45:12

doesn't see his people President

45:16

Xi the Chinese president

45:18

wants Trump to win a second Trump

45:20

term will allow China to cement its

45:22

grip on the developing world 100%

45:25

yes, that is true Corruption unbound

45:27

Donald Trump and his cronies left

45:29

his first administration with a playbook

45:31

for self enrichment in his second

45:34

term He enriched himself to the

45:36

tunes of tens of millions of

45:38

dollars through his administration

45:41

Trump's polarization of science is bad for

45:43

everyone this article a reelected Donald Trump

45:46

would continue to attack studies that stand

45:48

in the way of his agenda And

45:51

to make support for scientific inquiry a

45:53

tribal belief. We saw that during the

45:55

pandemic We saw the

45:58

erosion of the public in

46:00

science and medicine as a

46:03

stated institutionalized goal of the

46:05

Trump administration in 2020. Is

46:09

journalism ready? The press has repeatedly

46:11

fallen into Donald Trump's traps. A

46:13

second term could render journalism irrelevant.

46:16

Very very true. A MAGA judiciary.

46:18

In a second term Donald Trump would

46:20

appoint more judges who do not care

46:23

about and follow the law. The

46:26

Proud Boys love a winner. A

46:28

second Trump term would validate the

46:30

violent ideologies of far-right extremists and

46:32

allow them to escape legal jeopardy.

46:34

He said he is going to

46:36

pardon these white nationalist

46:39

racists. A plan

46:41

to outlaw abortion everywhere. You and I

46:43

talked about this earlier before the show.

46:45

Trump has a plan to outlaw

46:47

abortion by enforcement of the

46:50

Comstock Act which would get

46:52

rid of abortion in Illinois

46:54

and California and Massachusetts and

46:57

all the blue enclaves. We

46:59

are not safe. The

47:01

truth won't matter if reelected Donald

47:03

Trump will once again churn out

47:06

absurdity and outrage with factory efficiency.

47:08

Civil rights undone. How Trump could

47:10

unwind generations of civil rights progress.

47:13

A war on blue America in a

47:15

second term Trump would punish the cities

47:18

and states that don't support him. Again

47:20

he said this out loud. Yep, Donald

47:22

Trump versus American history. He has promised

47:24

to impose his harmful erroneous claims on

47:26

school curricula in a second term. Trump's

47:29

plan to police gender. His campaign is

47:32

promising a more repressive and dangerous America.

47:34

He will build a military loyal to

47:36

Trump. In 2020 the armed

47:38

forces were a bulwark against Trump's

47:40

anti-democratic designs. Changing that would

47:43

be a priority of his second term. What

47:46

will happen to the American psyche if Trump is

47:48

reelected? Our bodies are not designed to handle this

47:50

kind of chronic stress. There's

47:54

two more. I just look guys this

47:57

is go out and buy the issue. of

48:00

the Atlantic and read it. We just covered

48:02

a piece of it, a chunk of it, a

48:04

small piece of it. This is

48:06

not hyperbole. I think this is like

48:09

the most urgent. This is why I'm like,

48:12

this is why I get crazy about

48:15

really talking about this election as

48:18

a pragmatic issue, where

48:20

we can't afford to be like, well, you know, like,

48:22

I don't like Biden. Look, I don't like everything Biden

48:24

does either. I don't care. The

48:26

choices between Trump and Biden, I

48:29

don't care if you dislike Biden. You can't

48:31

both sides this shit. Not

48:34

this time. The problem

48:36

is that at a certain point, when

48:38

it is existential, you

48:41

have to release some of your

48:43

grip on idealism. And, you

48:45

know, you and I were talking ahead

48:47

of time when you were saying, you

48:49

know, if you don't vote for Biden,

48:51

some people think that you're somehow punishing

48:53

Biden, that that is a punishment. Biden's

48:55

going to go home and just be

48:57

rich and die. That's the if he

48:59

doesn't win, you are the one who

49:01

loses. Nobody, like everybody loses,

49:04

right? It's not just Biden. And

49:06

it's not just punishing Biden because

49:08

you're not punishing him really

49:10

directly. He just lost the presidential thing.

49:12

You're the one who's hurting yourself. You're

49:14

shooting yourself in the foot. This one

49:16

is so like, I'm an idealist at

49:18

heart. And I and I sympathize with

49:21

idealism. I really do. But I recognize,

49:23

too, there's sometimes you've got to push

49:25

that in the back and say, no,

49:28

this is a crisis that needs to

49:30

be handled. Now, let's handle it. And

49:32

then we can start working on our

49:34

idealism. Let's work on idealism grassroots.

49:37

Let's work on idealism mid-size. Let's work

49:39

on idealism in state. And let's work on

49:41

getting rid of this guy forever. And then

49:43

let's start to shift that idealism up to

49:45

the up to the White House. But if

49:47

you don't do that and you think, well,

49:49

I just want to not participate, man,

49:52

we're in for a real, real rude awakening

49:54

when he gets I mean, there

49:57

is no there is no four years after.

50:00

to this? I don't even know why. I

50:02

don't either. And like, there's an idea that

50:04

like, if the Democrats lose to Trump, that

50:06

the Democrats will go home, and they will

50:08

self reflect, and they'll see the things they

50:10

did wrong, and they'll realize that a more

50:12

progressive agenda is really what America wants. And

50:14

then four years later, they'll show up with

50:17

a more progressive America. And

50:19

I understand that, like broad

50:21

strategic concept, as far as

50:23

proving using your vote,

50:25

and hurting their chances of making them

50:27

do that self reflection. Just not this

50:30

time. If you don't

50:32

know Trump is different, you're not

50:34

paying attention. He showed

50:36

you for four years in 2016, do

50:39

we not remember the chaos of the summer

50:41

of 2020? Do

50:43

we not remember the chaos and

50:45

the violence, and the

50:48

fear and the incompetency and

50:50

the corruption and the near

50:52

destruction of the American democratic

50:54

state? Like, is that something that like,

50:57

you think maybe won't happen

50:59

for something something reasons this time? Yeah,

51:01

like, yeah, I get the idea to

51:04

say like, fuck those guys, let's put

51:06

the right people in charge. Let's send

51:09

them packing so they can lick their wounds

51:11

and come back to us better. I get

51:13

that I do. Not this time, though. Not

51:16

this time. Not with Trump. He's different. He's

51:19

different. Read this. This is read this. Read this. Don't

51:22

you don't want you don't want another

51:24

pandemic. Like, nothing else happens. You don't

51:26

want another pandemic to happen while that

51:28

guy's in office because he fucking couldn't

51:31

find his ass with two hands during

51:33

a crisis. Any single crisis that man

51:35

will fold like a fucking chair. He

51:37

will just fold it. He was so bad during

51:41

that entire entire process. You

51:44

just have to think back to how terrible

51:46

he was. This is a guy telling people we

51:49

need to put disinfectant in their body.

51:51

Yeah, man. That's how he handled

51:53

a fucking pandemic. So and that's

51:55

just one aspect of it. It was

51:57

a pandemic that on easy mode. Yeah.

52:00

One man who genuinely this

52:02

is an existential go. By.

52:12

Faster. Wrap it up for this week. We're

52:14

going back on Monday or be sorted soon

52:16

in our will. We're going to leave you

52:18

though, like we always do with the skeptics.

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