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Now onto the episode.

0:33

Carol Hutto turned six in nineteen

0:35

seventy six. She lived in

0:37

Largo, Florida with her parents and her brother,

0:39

Jerry. Carol was considered

0:41

a friendly person by most everyone who knew

0:43

her.

0:45

On December thirteenth, she told her

0:47

mother that she would be back in couple of hours

0:49

and headed to a friend's house.

0:53

Carol didn't stay with her friend-in-law, claiming

0:56

she was headed to a nearby drugstore. Carol

0:58

asked her friend to tell her parents should be

1:00

back in ten minutes if they happen to call.

1:04

She wasn't back in ten minutes, and

1:06

she didn't return home in a couple of hours.

1:10

Carol Hutto never came home

1:12

again because the sixteen year

1:14

old girl had been murdered.

1:20

From a and e, this is

1:22

cold case vials. When

1:28

Carol didn't come home, her mother

1:30

Norma was understandably worried.

1:34

I knew when Carol didn't come home

1:37

in a couple hours like she said,

1:39

I'll be back. I won't be going long.

1:42

I knew that something was wrong.

1:46

Her brother, Jerry, had been out on the

1:48

same evening and was surprised to find

1:50

his parents away and worried about Carol

1:53

when he got home. He was way

1:55

past curfew and was surprised he wasn't in trouble.

1:57

This is Carol's brother, Jerry,

2:00

She never not that

2:02

I can really remember ever got in trouble for

2:05

not coming home. Or calling

2:07

in when she was not gonna be there

2:09

when she was supposed to be.

2:11

Norma and Jerry went out to search for Carol.

2:14

They talked with their friends and visited the places

2:16

she liked to hang out, but they

2:18

didn't find her. Carol's

2:20

mother, Norma, then called the police,

2:23

She said there's nothing we can do. Girls

2:25

run away all the time. I

2:27

tried to tell her that Carol

2:30

didn't run away. She had

2:32

nothing to run away

2:33

from. She was

2:35

happy. She didn't have any problems.

2:39

When Carol still wasn't home the next morning,

2:42

Jerry walked down their street, hoping

2:44

to find some kind of clue. He

2:47

walked all the way to the end where there was a house

2:49

under construction with a big lake behind

2:51

it.

2:53

And I just kinda glanced out at the lake

2:56

and I saw some clothes and

2:58

a raincoat, and then

3:00

I believe one shoe, it

3:03

was over in this area right here. They

3:06

were floating in the water. So

3:08

I turned and I started

3:10

looking closer and I looked

3:12

down and that's when I I saw her

3:15

face down in the water with the

3:18

cement blocks on top of her. Jerry

3:22

ran back home, shocked by what he had seen.

3:25

He didn't quite know what to do or say.

3:28

How do you tell your parents that

3:30

their baby daughters in the lake

3:32

face down? You just can't do it.

3:36

Norma Patel, Jerry was upset. And

3:39

I said Jerry, what's wrong? And he

3:41

just stared. And

3:44

I gotta hope to him and I

3:45

said, Jerry, what's wrong? And he said,

3:48

we gotta go, daddy. We gotta kill her.

3:53

Jerry's parents called the police and then

3:56

followed him to the lake. Seventeen

3:58

year old Jerry showed the police where he had

4:00

found his sister's

4:01

body. We

4:03

went down there and I showed the officer, and

4:07

that's when my world come crashing

4:09

down. I mean, just totally come

4:12

crashing down. The

4:14

police immediately considered Jerry suspects.

4:17

He had a few prior run ins with the law, besides

4:19

being the person who found Carol's

4:20

body. I wasn't a

4:23

goodie, goodie kid. I mean, I did things

4:25

wrong. You know, all kids do

4:27

stupid things.

4:28

So I think maybe that's, you know, why they

4:31

looked at me. Jerry

4:33

told the police he had been with his girlfriend

4:35

until really late. When he

4:37

came home, he had gone past the lake where Carol's

4:39

body had been discovered. For

4:41

Jerry, it was a tragic coincidence,

4:44

but the police considered it a red flag.

4:47

Jerry became their number one suspect. They

4:50

came right out and told me I did it. They know I

4:52

did it. And It's like any

4:54

interrogation. They

4:57

they try to wear you down. They try to make

4:59

you go ahead and confess. And I

5:01

didn't do

5:01

this. I wasn't going to

5:04

confess to something like that

5:06

I didn't do. Jerry

5:09

was taken in for questioning. And Carol's

5:11

body was sent to the coroner for an autopsy.

5:14

The coroner determined that Carol had been

5:16

strangled. She passed out

5:18

but didn't die.

5:19

She also had a large burn on her thigh.

5:22

And the most sickening discovery was

5:24

that Carol was still alive when she was put in

5:26

the

5:26

water. The coroner

5:29

collected four hairs that didn't match the

5:31

victim. The hairs were compared to

5:33

Jerry, but the results were

5:35

considered

5:35

inconclusive. Jerry

5:37

was free to go. A

5:39

lot of my friends quit talking to me

5:42

and I made new friends and honestly

5:44

I did, but a lot of the people that I

5:46

knew

5:48

they wanted nothing to do with

5:50

me. Norma

5:52

Hutto didn't believe Jerry had killed Carol.

5:55

But she wasn't getting any help or

5:57

answers from the

5:57

investigators. I wanted

6:01

answers. I needed answers. The

6:03

whole family needed answers, but

6:05

we weren't getting any. Every

6:07

time that you

6:09

asked something or you started something,

6:12

it fell right back to Jerry.

6:16

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6:18

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In March of nineteen ninety four, almost

7:55

twenty years after Carol had been murdered.

7:58

Officer Brad Hoyse was injured in a work

8:00

accident. He was assigned a desk

8:02

job that felt like he was just pushing paper

8:04

around. So he asked permission to

8:06

review the cold case files. The

8:08

oldest of those files was the murder of

8:10

Carol Hutto. So Hoye's

8:12

read through the original file and started

8:14

to ask

8:15

questions. This is officer Hoye's.

8:18

For what I could tell the the entire focus of

8:20

the investigation, was the

8:22

half brother that that found

8:25

Carol's body. And

8:28

I really couldn't find a reason

8:30

why at the time.

8:32

It's called tunnel vision, when

8:34

investigators focus on a single

8:36

suspect and ignore all other possible

8:38

leads. While

8:39

looking at the file, Huawei found

8:41

one of those leads he believed was

8:43

overlooked. Carol's diary.

8:46

So I opened it up and it it

8:48

begins about a month before her

8:50

death.

8:51

And I'm thinking, there's gotta

8:53

be something in here that tells us at

8:56

least leads us to a suspect because

8:58

this this is more than likely a crime

9:00

that that was committed by someone she

9:02

knows and was relatively

9:04

comfortable

9:04

with. A few

9:07

pages into the diary, Hoyes

9:09

read about Carol's secret boyfriend, Jimmy

9:12

Kim, her classmates. Carol

9:14

also wrote that they often met by the lake

9:16

where her body was discovered.

9:19

I finally got to a point where

9:22

it said I met Jimmy at the

9:24

lake, and

9:26

it just was too close to home. You know

9:28

what I mean? That's where her body was founded and

9:30

was right next to the

9:31

house. So we believe it know, the crime occurred

9:33

in. Boys

9:35

called his fellow detective Mike Short

9:37

and told him about the diary entries.

9:39

This is detective

9:40

Short. So it was a

9:43

surprise to actually find

9:45

out that she is speaking

9:47

about an individual in a

9:49

manner that established they had a relationship.

9:53

And her desire to be with him

9:55

and the fact that he treated

9:57

her oftentimes not very well

9:59

and how she felt about that,

10:01

places they would go. How they would

10:03

meet, sneaking out, avoiding a

10:05

fact that anybody knows knew they were meeting.

10:07

The

10:08

detectives believed that Carol had identified

10:10

her killer. But they didn't have

10:12

any physical evidence. They

10:14

dug further into the original investigation and

10:17

found an interview of Jimmy

10:19

King done in nineteen seventy

10:20

six. Was identified as

10:22

a friend of

10:23

Carol's. Ken

10:24

denied seeing or speaking to the victim

10:27

on the night she was

10:28

murdered. Eighteen

10:29

years later though, the cold case

10:31

detectives uncovered a discrepancy

10:33

between Kim's statement and the

10:35

family statement to the police. When

10:38

the investigator interviewed the Hutto

10:41

family, they informed the investigator

10:43

that on the night care went missing.

10:45

She received a phone call from Jimmy

10:47

Kim. When Jimmy Kim was

10:49

asked about that in nineteen seventy six

10:51

during his interview,

10:53

he denied ever calling Carol on

10:55

the night she went missing.

10:58

Despite the fact that Jimmy had denied having

11:00

contact with Carol on the night she was

11:02

murdered, Norma, Carol's

11:04

mother, distinctly remember talking with

11:06

him. I answered

11:08

the phone and he said,

11:11

missus Hutto, this is Jim. Can I

11:13

speak to Carol? And I

11:15

said, yes. Just a minute. And they talked for

11:17

a little bit. And then

11:19

they hung up in shortly,

11:23

maybe fifteen minutes. He called again,

11:25

and she told him she was

11:27

leaving. The

11:28

detectives wanted to speak with Jimmy King.

11:31

The only issue was, finding

11:34

him.

11:36

In July

11:38

of nineteen ninety four, the detectives

11:41

found Jimmy King on a naval base

11:43

in Connecticut working as a petty officer on

11:45

a navy submarine. Investigator

11:47

Mike Short, travel to the base to

11:49

interview Ken. Here's some audio

11:51

from that interview.

11:52

But she wasn't dating anybody that

11:54

you knew have been or, you know, seeing somebody

11:57

or having any interest like, I don't know if

11:59

she's seen anybody really steady or anything with

12:01

that. You know? We used to hang around a lot,

12:03

but don't think I remember. Can you tell me anything

12:05

at all about her? I mean,

12:07

I don't remember why. I don't

12:10

remember the area. The

12:12

detective showed Kim the excerpts from

12:14

Carol's diary that mentioned him and

12:16

the lake.

12:17

The fact that she had a diary

12:20

surprised him and then to read

12:22

excerpts, Carol's words, things that

12:24

she wrote about him and the

12:26

way he treated her obviously

12:28

affected him.

12:30

Then they asked if maybe he wanted to rethink

12:33

his story. I

12:35

don't honestly know what

12:37

happened to her.

12:38

What I

12:39

wanna know is with two of you together and

12:41

I

12:41

And was she okay when you left? That's

12:44

what I

12:44

wanna know. Yes.

12:48

He admitted that he had been with Carol

12:50

on the night she went missing.

12:52

That was a significant

12:54

admission. And we knew at that

12:56

time we had our suspect Detective

13:01

Short believed that Jimmy Kim had killed

13:03

Carol, but he needed physical

13:05

evidence to connect him to the crime

13:06

scene. He went back through the

13:08

original evidence and discovered the

13:10

unidentified hairs. Even though

13:12

DNA testing had developed immensely from

13:14

the time of the original investigation, a

13:17

DNA profile wouldn't be useful without a sample

13:19

of the suspect's DNA for comparison.

13:23

Detective Shore asked the naval criminal investigative

13:25

service better known as

13:27

NCIS, for help executing a

13:29

warrant for Kim's

13:29

DNA. He wanted to make the most of

13:32

the time they had him in custody.

13:33

If we're going to service

13:36

Earthworm on Jimmy Kent,

13:38

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13:40

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On July fifteenth, nineteen ninety

15:30

eight, after issuing a warrant and

15:32

collecting a blood sample, detective

15:34

Short was asked to wait outside an interrogation

15:35

room. While NTIS

15:38

investigators, Tanna Simos and

15:40

Dave Early, interrogated petty

15:42

officer Jim

15:42

King. A

15:43

SIMOS IN EARLY STARTED WITH THE HARD

15:46

QUESTIONS DURING THEIR INTERGATION. JEM,

15:49

NOT ONLY ME, BUT REALLY THE CONSENSUS

15:52

AS EVERYONE IS REALLY WITHOUT doubt

15:54

you're responsible for what happened to

15:56

Carol. We can place

15:58

you at spots. Okay?

16:01

And, unfortunately, for you, the spots we

16:03

can place you at, there's no

16:05

other conclusion you can come to,

16:07

and you were there when certain events

16:08

occurred. To be honest with you. For

16:10

half an hour, Kinsat quietly as

16:12

the investigators narrowed down his options.

16:14

Admit that the murder was an accident

16:17

or by

16:18

silence, admit that he had intentionally killed

16:20

Carol. What I'm trying to tell is, you're

16:22

focused on the wrong thing. Okay.

16:25

You're focused on the wrong thing. You're sitting out in

16:27

your yard. And you this tree

16:29

growing, and it looks like it's dying. And and

16:31

you're saying, man, it's helping to

16:33

wake up one day and that tree falls in the

16:35

house. And I'm telling you, look

16:37

behind you because there's a freaking

16:39

rottweiler. Okay? And it's about the bite in the

16:41

ass.

16:43

Alright? You need to focus. You're

16:45

you're ready to put this behind you? It's

16:48

time. It's

16:48

time for everybody. It's simple, Jim. You're

16:51

sorry, or you didn't intentionally? That's all

16:53

I'm asking. I don't need

16:54

Tim. Are you sorry you killed Carol?

16:57

That's all I'm asking Tim. You're sorry,

16:59

aren't

16:59

you? I

17:01

can

17:01

say, you're sorry, Jim. That's all it's gonna

17:03

take. We know that you didn't need to

17:05

do this to happen. Did you? You didn't do it

17:07

intentionally. Did you? It was a mistake.

17:10

Right? You didn't plan

17:11

it? Jim? It's

17:14

a mistake. Wasn't it Jim? It's

17:17

an accident. That's what

17:19

we need to explain for us

17:21

to just try to get it out.

17:25

Despite the lack of physical evidence, The

17:28

agents were able to convince Kim

17:30

to confess.

17:31

He wiped

17:32

away his tears and explained how

17:34

he had killed Carol.

17:36

And it was an

17:36

accident. You know, the

17:39

reason I

17:39

went to the lake was to try to

17:41

cover it up. I understand something else.

17:44

We don't understand, Jim. We don't understand

17:46

that. How did she get hurt in the house?

17:49

We were playing

17:52

around and or

17:55

chasing each other. She tripped itself.

17:58

Okay. What happened there?

18:01

She's unconscious.

18:03

I didn't hear a heartbeat or

18:06

anything. Okay. covered

18:10

up, like, it was something else or somebody

18:12

else. What did you do

18:13

then? I

18:17

wanna

18:17

took her clothes off. K.

18:19

To grow above the length. What'd

18:21

you do if

18:22

you're down by the light? To

18:27

put her in the water, but I just put

18:29

with the rocks on top of her and I took

18:32

off.

18:32

Okay. Despite

18:36

Jimmy Kim's

18:40

tears, the detectives still believed he

18:42

was lying. The autopsy pointed to

18:44

injuries consistent with blunt force

18:46

trauma and

18:46

strangulation, not an accidental

18:49

fall.

18:49

Ken was

18:50

charged with and convicted.

18:53

On case number ninety 812339I

18:56

do adjudicate mister Ken guilty. I send

18:58

some life in prison without the possibility

19:00

of parole for twenty five

19:03

years.

19:05

Norma Hutto doesn't think any amount of

19:08

time served a satisfactory.

19:10

It won't bring her daughter back.

19:12

Now I don't

19:14

think he should ever get out of prison. He

19:16

didn't give

19:16

her the chance to get

19:19

out of the lake. So I don't think he should

19:21

ever get out. He

19:24

took my baby

19:26

he took my only daughter.

19:30

And for

19:30

that, I

19:31

think he should stay where he is. For the

19:34

rest of his life.

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