0:00

Are you saying you faked with

0:02

me ?

0:02

Yeah , I

0:04

just can't say it oh

0:07

.

0:07

Oh , oh , so cool , I can't wrong

0:09

. Now you're single .

0:10

What do you know about sexual relations

0:12

?

0:13

Is it true that if you don't use it , you

0:15

use it ?

0:16

I'm a little worried about being a slut . You're

0:18

listening to the Come With Us podcast , talking

0:21

the good , the kinky and the ugly . Here

0:23

are your hosts , beth and Erin

0:25

.

0:29

Hey , there are all you holes , polls , everything in

0:31

between . Welcome to Come With Us podcast . I

0:33

am Erin Again this week . No

0:35

, beth Darling , she is still

0:38

out grieving for the loss of

0:40

her daughter . If you didn't check out last week's

0:42

episode with Dr Stephanie Sigler , I

0:44

highly suggest you do . We got

0:46

pretty deep , talking about

0:48

mental health and grieving the loss

0:50

of a loved one and just

0:52

all the kind of stuff that Beth is going through

0:54

right now after losing her daughter . But

0:58

yeah , feel free to go check it out . It

1:00

should be episode 155 out there . I don't

1:02

know if I have them completely numbered , but I'll get around

1:04

to that . Today we

1:06

have a guest that we've had on before , a

1:08

friend of the show , one that we

1:11

had gotten some feedback saying hey , we

1:13

want an update , what's going on ? So

1:16

Vivian Rose was on with us . So

1:18

let's see , about two years ago she was

1:20

actually in studio with us Back

1:22

when Tina was on the show with us as well

1:24

, and because

1:27

I'm trying to make sure we keep

1:29

putting out content and stuff like that , I texted

1:31

her and said hey , been a couple of weeks

1:33

since you and I have talked , but it's

1:36

been a couple of years since our listeners have found out . So

1:38

you want to come on and talk to us and kind

1:40

of update us on what's going on with you and the SSBBW

1:44

modeling world and squashing world

1:46

and face-sitting and all that fun stuff . And she happily

1:49

said yes , so joining

1:51

me now . Vivian Rose , model

1:53

extraordinaire . Her camera's not

1:55

on , so if you're watching on YouTube

1:58

right now , sorry you don't get to see the

2:00

live and in-person face of Vivian

2:02

because she's recovering . Apparently a

2:04

lot of stuff was going around during the holidays and everybody

2:06

got sick Luckily not me . I don't know

2:09

why , so knock on wood there . But

2:11

, vivian , how you been .

2:13

Oh , I'm wonderful . I'm tickled to be called

2:15

a friend of the show .

2:16

Oh yeah , of course you're a friend of the show we loved

2:19

having you on and it was a blast then and

2:22

it's gonna be a blast now . So

2:25

, like I said , it's been about

2:27

two years . The

2:30

Amazon Prime show that you were on

2:32

had just

2:34

come out , or was just about to come out , when

2:36

we recorded with you . That's

2:38

right . That was what 2021

2:41

, I believe Late 2021 maybe

2:43

yeah gosh , it

2:46

was like yesterday and seven years ago

2:48

. Yeah , so

2:50

what have you been up to ? Kind of give us a little

2:52

rundown . What

2:56

has the modeling and squashing

2:58

face-sitting world brought you

3:00

in the last 365

3:03

plus days ?

3:06

You know , it's coming from every angle , it's

3:08

all kinds of different stuff . It's just

3:10

being a body positive big girl

3:13

and being a squishing

3:15

smothering goddess . I've been

3:17

traveling a lot , of course , and

3:20

I stay gone for like one

3:22

or two or three months and

3:24

then come back home and do absolutely

3:26

nothing for about a month and

3:28

forget I even do this . I'm

3:31

in vacation mode right now , yeah .

3:33

So you live like kind of like a touring band

3:35

does Like a band will go out on tour for

3:37

about 90 days , 120 days

3:39

, you know . Go out there , sell the merch

3:41

, play the show , sell some albums and then

3:43

go home , kind of look at each other and

3:45

go , okay , I don't want to be around you anymore , I

3:48

just kind of want to sit and hang out . You know , be with my

3:50

family .

3:51

Yeah .

3:52

That's crazy . That's I'm

3:55

assuming . You probably would

3:57

have , I'd probably guess , four

3:59

or five total work trips every

4:01

year where you just kind of disappear from

4:04

your hometown .

4:06

Yeah , yeah , it's . Yeah

4:08

, that's about right . Yeah , I guess I'll get

4:10

pretty much usually the East coast lined

4:12

up and then just go disappear for

4:14

a while until there's no demand and everybody's

4:17

tired of me , and then come back home

4:19

and blow the dugs .

4:21

Fair enough , I mean , that doesn't sound like

4:23

a bad way , do you ? Is it

4:25

a lot of flying , or is it just driving Like you get

4:27

in the car and roll when

4:29

you ?

4:29

line up , I get in the car and roll .

4:31

Okay , wow , that's a lot

4:33

of driving Like I'm one who

4:35

loves to drive . I love road trips . I

4:37

used to live in Nashville , so I would make the run from Houston

4:40

to Nashville a couple of few

4:42

times a year easily and it would

4:44

be easy and I had blasts

4:46

. But I just three months of just driving

4:49

on the road , stopping for a few days . Driving on the road

4:51

, stopping for a few days , that sounds hectic

4:53

.

4:55

It can be sometimes , but honestly

4:59

I've learned things as I've

5:01

gone about my personal preferences

5:03

. So there'll be

5:06

places where I do sit for like a

5:08

week or two . Usually it's New York . So

5:10

I'll put New York in the middle of a

5:12

couple of two or three day visits

5:14

and then stay in New York for like

5:16

two weeks and then I'm dying

5:18

to go again . So I

5:20

get back in the car , yeah .

5:22

And see , I've only been to New York once and it was for work , and

5:24

it was for like when I go out of town

5:26

on work , I'm there for like 38 hours . So

5:28

I don't get to do much

5:31

of the sightseeing , if at all .

5:33

Oh , my goodness .

5:34

Like I have friends who go to New York and they're like

5:36

, oh , it's the coolest thing ever , you got to love it , you got

5:38

to love it . And I'm like , okay , but

5:40

I don't have time , and there are much

5:42

. I'm more of an out or like mountains

5:45

and away from humans kind of person . So

5:47

if I'm going to go , on vacation . It's Colorado

5:50

or I mean I have friends in Colorado so

5:52

I go there just to see them and their kids . But

5:55

like the Hill Country here in Texas or

5:57

the beach or something like that , like New York just sounds

5:59

so packed and

6:01

there's just so many people , it would

6:03

piss me off , I have a feeling .

6:06

Well , I think you can find your

6:08

bubble . But yes

6:10

, new York is always

6:12

bustling and always energetic

6:15

. There's always something going on . I

6:18

love it , but would never

6:20

want to live there .

6:21

Fair enough . Yeah , I have one friend who went there

6:23

for a like three day visit

6:26

years ago and came back and

6:28

the day he got back was like I'm moving to New

6:30

York . And I was like what

6:32

? And I was probably six

6:35

or seven years older than him , oh

6:37

, I still am . He's still alive , thankfully . And

6:40

he was like I'm moving , and he was 22 at

6:42

the time and I was , you know , 28

6:44

, but you know , been around the block a little

6:46

bit more than he had , not saying I

6:48

experienced a whole lot , but I was like have you put thought into

6:50

this ? He goes , yep , I'm moving . There was a thought

6:53

about it the whole flight back , and I was like , okay

6:55

, and so we talked about it and he had

6:58

a whole plan . He was like by the end of this year

7:00

I will be living in New York . And

7:02

he had like a whole map of like I

7:04

need to do this , this and this .

7:07

And I was like okay well , good

7:09

for you .

7:10

And I was like but I know his personality

7:12

and his personality probably

7:14

at first I was like you're not going to get along with New York

7:16

. He was like I don't care , I like the city better

7:19

than I like the people screw them . So

7:22

that's how he ended up there . So congrats to him . I mean he's

7:24

still killing it up there . He moved

7:26

up there and had had was working

7:28

three or four jobs in the media spear

7:31

all at the same time and was killing it Wow

7:34

.

7:35

But yeah Well , there's something special

7:37

to finding , to discovering that when

7:40

you find it and you don't immediately

7:42

jump on it , it sits inside

7:45

you and festers . As a creative , I feel

7:47

this .

7:48

Yeah , okay

7:50

, because I'm from Houston and

7:52

you've been to Houston and

7:54

you love New York . I didn't know if

7:56

you wanted to tell people you were from Houston as well .

7:59

Absolutely , I'm in Houston .

8:01

I don't know if we want to talk about the biases

8:04

, but better food scene New York or

8:06

Houston .

8:08

Oh Houston . Okay , I just want to make

8:10

sure but if there were any

8:12

two Fraternal

8:16

twins , that

8:18

would be Houston and New York . We

8:21

are now currently what ? The food capital

8:24

. The diversity is just amazing

8:26

, but New York is just older

8:29

at it , I guess .

8:30

Yeah , it's older at it

8:32

, I mean they . The thing is

8:34

is like Houston

8:36

is to me like the city , that you

8:39

don't go there for the glitz and glam of money . You go

8:41

there because you love to make like having

8:43

known a lot of people in the culinary world

8:45

of Houston , like you either lived

8:48

here or you moved here because you

8:50

went . You know what I want

8:52

to . I'm really good at what I do and I want to show

8:54

it off . I don't need the . I don't need

8:56

a , and you know so many celebrity

8:59

chefs that people see on you know food network

9:01

or HG TV or whatever the hell

9:03

it is . They have agents , just

9:05

like a singer , just like a model , just

9:08

like your favorite football player . They

9:10

have an agent that works to get them on TV

9:12

and get them in people's howlums all

9:14

the time , so that you know they become more of a

9:16

brand in Houston . It's a lot of . I

9:19

don't need an agent . I'm gonna let my food speak for myself .

9:21

Have at it exactly , and they do

9:23

it so well , it's more

9:26

like . So . Like New York is

9:28

YouTube shorts of eating and Houston

9:31

is like the full video , because

9:33

we're so sprawling and we build out

9:36

where New York builds on top of everything . You

9:38

know you have seven layers and here's the

9:40

landfill , then there's the apartment , then

9:43

there's the restaurant on top In

9:45

the roof . Yeah we have yeah

9:48

, we have those More and more

9:50

of those ambiance restaurants coming up

9:52

, and there was one I just looked at

9:54

yesterday . The roof is just

9:56

gorgeous , I mean the ceiling is just gorgeous

9:58

. And I went to that French restaurant

10:01

, annabelle's , recently and

10:03

they have this just whole World

10:05

on the root of the ceiling of the restaurant

10:08

that they change out throughout the

10:10

the year . So we we

10:12

do a whole experience around the dining

10:14

and what we do is eat

10:17

. So we sit and we

10:19

spread and we relax and gorge

10:21

.

10:24

Very cool , very cool . I have to check that place out . So

10:28

in traveling you said you

10:30

like to divide things up by region . When

10:34

you're traveling , is it more meeting

10:36

fans , is it more like modeling

10:38

and photo shoots and shooting content

10:40

, or is it kind of just ? You

10:42

know six and one half dozen of the other .

10:45

The nature has changed as I've gone . When

10:48

I first started out it was just

10:50

, I mean , like practice wise

10:52

I was . I was new at it and

10:55

I was taking a stab and figuring out what I

10:57

liked . So it was go

10:59

where the requests were and

11:03

Spend a couple of days

11:05

, actually find out that that was too

11:07

long . So what I do is

11:09

I kind of compile all the requests that

11:11

I get in my email for sessions and Go

11:14

there and then from there I know that the trip

11:16

is at least paid for and I

11:20

can play with whatever else is available

11:22

. So fan meets I really haven't

11:25

done , but I'm getting

11:27

more open to that now . Photography

11:30

it depends on the city . If

11:33

it's like Baltimore , for example , photos

11:36

by Phelps , is there

11:38

a girl cat photo ? So I'll definitely

11:40

spend more time there because he's there and

11:43

shoot . So

11:45

it depends on the city entirely .

11:47

Oh , I know girl cat photo they followed , I

11:49

think after we released with you . They followed us on

11:51

Twitter . So then we fall back

11:54

. They like Primarily

11:56

deal with curvy or plus size

11:58

, you know , voluptuous models , correct ?

12:01

Mm-hmm , yeah , and he has

12:03

his , his flavor Girl

12:05

cat . So he's three different . He's avalanque

12:07

, creative arts , girl cat photo

12:10

and photos by Phelps . And

12:13

Girl cat photo actually started

12:15

with me and Anna marks , so

12:18

we were the first and he has

12:21

his particular style . He's a

12:23

little more low light , not

12:25

Photoshopping

12:28

out things . You know , seeing

12:30

cellulite , seeing Marks

12:33

, that kind of thing . So he's

12:35

really the one that I cut my confidence

12:37

chops on photography wise interesting

12:40

.

12:40

Yes , see , that's mm-hmm . Like I know

12:42

there is artistic differences

12:44

between photographers , but oh

12:47

yeah , like all of the nitty-gritty

12:49

of lighting and all those

12:51

crazy details Just makes my head spin

12:53

because you can change

12:55

it 2% from one thing and all

12:57

of a sudden the photo looks completely different . It's anybody

13:00

who does take pictures for a living , or you

13:02

know I've got family members who

13:04

did it for a , for a college major

13:07

. Like that's ridiculous

13:09

, like I it makes . Yeah

13:11

, just and they say the same thing about me with audio

13:13

and sound , because they'll look at me and I'll sit

13:15

there with like a two-hour piece of audio and I'll get

13:17

it cut down , packaged ready to go

13:20

within , you know , an hour . Um

13:22

, and they'll look at me and be like how

13:25

you know , that's what I do

13:27

, your ways . I

13:29

could . I could teach you how , depending on what

13:31

kind of sound you want to go for and what I mean

13:33

. We talked about audio a little bit off

13:36

the air . I'll peel back the curtain . You said you

13:38

wanted an order , a microphone , because you wanted

13:40

to do more voice stuff . What kind of voice stuff would you were

13:42

you interested in ?

13:44

Well , that's , that's . I mean not listening

13:46

to me right now because I sound like a trucker , but

13:49

uh , I , I don't know , I something

13:51

with voice . When I did my first

13:53

podcast I was in love like I . I

13:56

went home feeling like your brother did

13:58

about new york and

14:00

it was just voice things , you know , just talking

14:02

to people , just talking .

14:05

Very cool . Yeah , I know that . Uh , beth

14:07

and I have been working on getting somebody on . There are

14:09

apps all over the place now

14:11

that do um , like

14:14

coaching . Like I

14:17

want to say it's not sex coaching , but

14:19

like a play-by-play of , like a uh

14:22

for people who Want

14:24

more creativity but also don't feel like

14:26

they're too creative , I guess , um

14:28

, there are apps out there that I've now

14:31

come across that I'm working on trying to get somebody

14:33

who runs them or works on them , where

14:35

it's like a step-by-step play-by-play

14:38

of some Sexy

14:40

unknown voice . You put it on

14:42

for you and your partner and they tell you what

14:44

to do and you do it , and so it's . I

14:46

love that . It's almost like a simon says

14:48

without the simon says part of

14:51

. Oh , let me be your girl like yeah

14:53

, uh , so I'll have to send

14:55

those apps to you and you'll have to look at it , because you've got

14:57

the voice for it . It would work

14:59

really well and I can help you . I

15:01

mean , you're in hues and I can help you get set up with good

15:04

equipment and everything like that . You make it sound all

15:06

nice and professional .

15:08

Oh that would be awesome . Me and beth

15:10

um , off

15:12

behind the curtain and then a little bit on

15:14

, um talked a little bit about

15:16

, just you know , coaching people because

15:19

what I was making . So

15:21

I have recorded , of course

15:23

, sex tapes , quote unquote , um

15:27

, but I shared them with a friend

15:29

and I don't , I don't

15:31

remember the impetus , but anyways , she

15:33

, she found it beneficial . It

15:36

wasn't a dirty thing , because she

15:38

was a bigger body and she

15:40

was trying to understand how to , you

15:43

know , have intimacy

15:45

with her partner and the logistics

15:47

of doing that around . You

15:49

know , a bigger body . So I

15:52

think that there's there's a world for that

15:54

, there's a need for that .

15:56

There is and I , I keep . Uh

15:58

, I love beth . I can't wait to get her

16:00

, get her back , because

16:02

I my heart goes out to her . Yeah

16:04

, we're all praying for . I know our listeners

16:06

. We've gotten emails and and you know

16:08

social media interaction , stuff like that saying you

16:10

know , hey , I'm praying for for beth . Uh

16:13

, just pass along my , my , my sympathies and

16:15

my condolences . Uh

16:17

, but we we all do , and

16:19

I mean I wouldn't be here without her , so

16:21

this , this podcast wouldn't exist without

16:24

her . So I'm gonna do my best to kind of , I

16:26

guess , keep it limping along until until

16:29

we get her back . But you

16:31

and I talked about that a couple , like a year ago or

16:33

so , just texting about stuff like that

16:35

, where you know . She has she

16:37

has sexy ed school and all that stuff . You

16:40

bring a different flavor to it

16:42

. That you know . You know , hey , she teaches

16:44

. She teaches women how to or , well

16:46

, men too how to give blowjobs and how

16:48

Men and women how to eat pussy like can't

16:50

, like a champion . You could teach

16:53

plenty of people . You know Face sitting

16:55

, squashing , all that fun stuff .

16:58

Even more of it . Just having

17:00

the conversation at all , I think , probably

17:03

Improves

17:05

your game Tenfold

17:07

, because people don't talk about it or they're embarrassed

17:10

to ask , and and it

17:12

opens up a whole world when you learn that , oh

17:14

, the pleasure can be

17:16

like this I , I've been missing out

17:18

, oh , let's talk more .

17:20

Yeah , exactly . Um

17:22

, so , speaking of squashing

17:24

and stuff like that , because you said you told me

17:26

, uh , off the air , you know that's , that's

17:29

what you've been doing on some of your , your travels

17:31

and stuff , um , walk

17:34

me through it a little bit , because it's not

17:37

something I'm familiar with . Uh , I

17:39

mean other than the , the , you know shorts

17:42

and pictures that you post on . Uh , you

17:44

post on social media , mostly twitter , because twitter

17:46

or x or whatever you call it , doesn't

17:48

have really content . Hey

17:50

, we're gonna ban you from putting up , you

17:53

know , pictures of a of a woman's ass

17:55

or something like that . Like , uh , like

17:57

instagram and stuff does .

18:00

So my , I think my trips are ultimately

18:03

the . The goal is

18:05

those sessions and

18:08

um , walking you through like

18:10

what one is . They kind of run the

18:12

gamut as far as

18:14

why people

18:17

like what they like and what it is

18:19

they like . I mean , even just about sitting

18:21

on a face Um , there

18:24

are like seven different reasons that

18:26

someone can like it , but it's all along

18:28

the line of femdom , it's all along the

18:30

line of enjoying

18:32

the mass , uh

18:35

, or just in general , loving

18:37

a big beautiful woman

18:39

and wanting her in your

18:41

proximity and having her to yourself

18:44

. So Gotcha

18:46

?

18:47

uh , yeah , there's

18:49

been a . I spent a lot of time on reddit

18:51

when I'm not working , uh , and

18:54

some of the the reddits that deal

18:56

with you know the sexier side of life is

18:58

, at least once a week there's a post

19:00

of women going Guys , when

19:03

you say you want us to sit on your face , like

19:05

I , I'm gonna kill you . Like

19:07

, what do you want me ? Like ? What do you mean

19:09

? Like , stop thinking . Like you're not . There's

19:11

no way . You're being literal . And there are

19:13

mountains and mountains of comments of guys going

19:16

yep , if I die , I die . Like that

19:18

being buried beneath a woman's

19:20

ass sounds the perfect way to go and I

19:22

mean I'm not gonna say it hasn't crossed my mind . It doesn't

19:24

sound horrible to me . At

19:27

the same time , like there is

19:29

a whole world of people out there who just

19:31

look at it and go what ? That that's

19:33

an expect . For some reason , a lot

19:35

of them are women who go that that's

19:37

what you want like , and think

19:39

that guys are are being

19:41

facetious or being over the top

19:44

or stuff like that yeah

19:46

, well , I mean , I can imagine

19:48

the trauma of Someone

19:51

saying they want something .

19:53

I mean you

19:55

working through your fears about

19:58

it doing it , and then they freak

20:00

that's a scar

20:02

. But I

20:05

, I mean , I mean I'm over

20:07

400 pounds and I

20:10

have not killed a single person . I

20:12

haven't even maimed a single person and

20:15

, trust me , I have given it

20:17

my all and if I can

20:19

do it , you'll be fine .

20:21

I mean Fair

20:24

enough , yeah . So how

20:26

About halfway through

20:28

here ? How does like one go about

20:30

, like when somebody wants

20:32

to book a Squashing or face

20:34

sitting or whatever you want to call it session

20:37

with you ? Like walk us through

20:39

the whole thing , start to finish all that fun

20:41

stuff . As much detail as you want to

20:43

give , basically .

20:44

Sure , sure , um . In general , we

20:47

all Use our social

20:50

media to advertise in some way . Instagram

20:52

, of course , is pretty heavily

20:54

censored , so it's kind of an illusion , uh

20:57

, to what we do . So it's

20:59

just the travel schedule and

21:02

then maybe a picture of me

21:04

and , like Amazon , amanda , if we're going to be in

21:06

the same city , or me and Aston

21:08

Martin if we're going to be in the same city . We

21:12

give you our travel dates and

21:14

our email and we ask you to email

21:17

us if you're interested in booking a session . We

21:19

also advertise on Twitter

21:22

. Twitter is a little more explicit

21:25

, I guess you can say so we , you know , I'll put it . Yeah

21:29

, so I can put a picture of me sitting

21:32

on top of somebody and

21:34

you can't see anything but their thumb

21:36

. You know sticking out , saying you know

21:38

thumbs out .

21:39

Yeah .

21:40

So you email . I also advertise on

21:42

Trist . It's a TRYST

21:45

, it's a website , tristlink . And

21:49

we say that we're in the city and

21:52

people go on there and they search the

21:54

city , they search for SSBBW

21:56

, they search for FEMDOM

21:58

or whatever , and

22:00

email us . And

22:02

then from there I say you

22:05

know I'm going to be here

22:07

, this is what I require . I

22:09

ask for a 50% deposit . I

22:12

host in my hotel and

22:15

be respectful

22:17

or I'll kick your ass . Fair enough .

22:20

Very cool , Like

22:22

what kind of ? You might not want to answer

22:25

this or you might , you know , there might be some like NDA

22:27

that everybody signs , but what kind

22:29

of ? I'm guessing it's

22:31

mostly men , I don't know have

22:33

you ever had a female . It's all men , okay , it's all

22:36

men .

22:36

I have not , though I'm open to it . I think women

22:38

are a little more afraid .

22:40

Fair enough Of

22:42

the men that you've , you know that you meet , that

22:44

do this , like when you're out there traveling , because

22:47

it's not just you , Like you said , there's , you

22:49

know , models and models and models and plenty

22:51

of women who do it . Like what

22:53

kind of fate , like what kind of what ?

22:54

kind of a Democrat .

22:56

Yeah , like what are we looking at ? Like what

22:59

kind of a guide . If you saw in it

23:01

sitting at a bar , would you go ? Bet

23:03

you 50 bucks I could get her . I've

23:05

had an email from that guy

23:07

just by .

23:09

You know what ? I actually have

23:11

tried that and that's something that crosses

23:13

my mind . When they walk in the door , it

23:15

runs the gamut . When I first

23:18

started out I thought I knew and

23:20

I didn't . I was so wrong . I've

23:22

had these huge

23:25

, 65 big boys

23:28

walk in the door and then I've had

23:30

these little tiny , you know five

23:32

, one skinny

23:35

, nervous little guys come in . I've

23:38

had perfectly normal , like blue

23:41

colored , bricklayer , new Yorker

23:43

kind of guys , and

23:45

the only thing that

23:47

kind of differs is maybe

23:50

what they like about it , okay

23:52

, what it is they're seeking when you're there , and

23:57

sometimes even that is

23:59

not predictable . So

24:01

it really runs the gamut and I asked

24:03

them a lot of like

24:05

the origins of their kink or

24:07

you know where do you think you started liking

24:10

something like this ? And and , for

24:12

example , one said that when his

24:14

teacher would discipline him in

24:16

, I think , kindergarten , you know

24:18

, she would hold him down by sitting on him . One

24:22

said he was he had like you know

24:24

, because I guess he was a

24:26

frenetic little thing and he

24:28

ran around everywhere , so she held him down

24:30

by sitting down on him .

24:32

That's like a hundred percent inappropriate for a teacher

24:34

to do to a student . That

24:37

was , that was .

24:37

That's still kind of back

24:40

, when they still had corporal punishment .

24:42

Yeah , I mean there , that that

24:44

is . You bring it up . I mean there

24:46

are people who developed a spank

24:48

kink for stuff

24:51

like that because that was you know what what would happen in

24:53

school . You know you're bad , you get whacked

24:55

with a ruler , you get you know swatted with a paddle

24:57

, kind of thing .

24:58

But that's something I found out . I didn't

25:00

know . I like doing .

25:02

Really .

25:03

Someone made me a paddle .

25:05

So you like the spanking or being spanked

25:07

?

25:08

Oh don't , don't spank me you okay , okay

25:11

. No , I mean , you know personal

25:13

life maybe yes , but not too much . It's

25:15

not a submissive

25:17

. You know daddy's going to punish you thing

25:19

, because I'll kick your ass . But

25:22

yeah , I've definitely become more dominant doing

25:24

this .

25:25

Okay , so , basically .

25:27

So , so there's that and then one guy told

25:29

me , like he was , he was wrestling with

25:31

his cousin as a kid and

25:33

there was this point where

25:35

I guess she

25:38

sat on him in such a way that it

25:40

stimulated his little boy bits and

25:43

so he associates that . And it

25:45

wasn't about the cousin , it wasn't anything

25:47

family gross , it's

25:49

just you know it's a body part

25:51

and you know it

25:54

functions healthy and you

25:57

found out he liked that .

25:59

Interesting . All right , yeah , are

26:02

most of your like this is going to sound

26:04

weird , or I'm not trying to call anybody out or anything like that

26:07

Are they mostly like single men

26:09

or some of them , married ? Are they , you know ? Are there

26:11

married ones who have their , their significant other's

26:13

blessing , or ones that are you know ? Like you can tell

26:15

, they're trying to kind of keep things under wraps .

26:20

I think that they're

26:24

largely single guys . I

26:27

don't ask too much about it because I

26:30

like to have a plausible deniability

26:32

, because I do have

26:34

a moral compass and and I don't want

26:36

to , you know , walk around with

26:38

that karma , yeah . But

26:41

at the same time I

26:43

I do feel I am a

26:45

service and

26:47

it is

26:50

something that I've thought

26:52

about long and hard to try to understand

26:54

from every angle . And

26:56

if someone were to ask the very

26:58

things that I do for work in

27:01

a personal relationship , I think I'd feel like a freak . So

27:06

I get why they would come to me

27:08

as opposed to their wives , because there

27:10

is that Madonna

27:13

whore complex that prevails among

27:15

women and a lot

27:18

of men . You know , they can't see their wife as this and that

27:20

and

27:22

that's that duality that

27:24

I think is a time

27:27

long challenge , you know .

27:29

Yeah , so Interesting .

27:32

That makes sense ?

27:33

No , no , cool All right , I

27:36

mean , yeah , I mean it's like I said

27:38

, it's stuff that we I've seen posted on our

27:40

social media is when I'm trying to I need to be

27:42

better about posting stuff , but you

27:44

know that's going through and

27:46

trying to find , you know , find guests , find topics , find stuff

27:48

we want to talk about . See

27:51

you promoting your stuff all the time and that

27:54

was more of my curiosity and I

27:56

don't know how many of our listeners are curious , curious

27:58

about it . But hey , they got a rundown

28:00

.

28:03

Yep , email me . Yeah , you know it

28:05

runs the gamut , it's

28:11

not . You know that's not the only things I do , because

28:13

I can't have possibly done everything

28:16

. And even Amazon Amanda

28:18

, who's been doing this for 20 years , she hasn't done

28:20

everything . So I am an

28:22

infinitely curious person and I want

28:24

to expand my

28:26

knowledge of what is the key , what people

28:28

are interested in , and so

28:31

I welcome emails and questions too , as

28:33

long as you're not wasting my time .

28:35

Yeah , see , I remember when you brought

28:37

, when you'd said her name to me , I was

28:40

like man , I know that name . Why do I know that ? Why do I know

28:42

that name ? She was on Comedy Central

28:44

. What now is probably a decade

28:46

ago , with with Daniel

28:49

Tosh on Tosh.0 . And

28:51

so like that was . That

28:53

was . I heard the name when you said it

28:55

to me one time and I was like I

28:57

know the name , I like what , and so

28:59

then I had to rack my brain for days and days and

29:02

finally I just like Googled it

29:04

and I googled her and

29:06

stuff like that and then threw enough YouTube

29:08

scrolling like oh hey , she was

29:10

on with Daniel Tosh , that's why I know the name , that's

29:12

okay , kind

29:15

of thing . So

29:17

it was how often ? Sorry

29:20

, I'm gonna go off the side from what I was about

29:22

to ask you , but like , how often do you work with her

29:24

?

29:26

There . There isn't a frequency

29:29

to give you a how often , but

29:31

we do text and try

29:33

to be in the same city , or

29:36

at least I try to be in the same

29:38

with her . We will be . We'll be in Seattle

29:41

together in January .

29:43

Oh , very cool . And we're working on

29:45

being in Seattle coming in

29:47

January . There's a At

29:49

a period that on okay , you

29:53

said Amanda's gonna be there . There's Aston

29:56

Martin , you said .

29:57

Oh , yeah , yeah , I'll be . There are obviously .

30:00

I mean , I've been , there are plenty of actual

30:02

cars like that , but she's

30:05

actually a model , correct ? She's model like you . She

30:08

is a porn star . Oh wow , she's full

30:10

of port , so You're

30:13

not gonna like Again

30:15

if I , if I step on your toes here , tell me

30:17

, no , bring it . What would you classify

30:20

yourself as versus what you

30:22

know ? Amanda or Aston , or any of them

30:24

, would be ?

30:26

So Amanda and I came to this conclusion

30:28

in an Uber Because we

30:30

were riding to a restaurant in San Francisco

30:32

and the guy was asking what we do and

30:35

we were particularly giggly . I don't know why

30:37

, but we're fetish models . That's

30:39

what we are .

30:40

Okay , so you Vivian

30:44

Rose , fetish model Aston Martin .

30:47

I , okay , okay but

30:50

I am bringing her over

30:52

to the world of face-sitting .

30:56

I .

30:56

I have a feeling if there's gonna be a person

30:59

that you know , bring her over and get

31:01

her to enjoy it , it would be you you

31:04

know she , I Guess

31:06

you know when she and I have conversations

31:08

I'm Remembering

31:12

through her how I used

31:14

to be about the concept , because

31:16

there are things that I now like

31:18

, accept and allow , as

31:20

far as the fetish

31:23

of being my size or

31:25

the fetish of doing certain things and certain

31:27

things that men ask of you in

31:29

a session . She

31:33

is just Getting

31:36

into it and she's just learning

31:38

that she kind of likes it and that it's

31:40

okay and it doesn't make her

31:42

feel Like

31:44

a fetish or like a freak . You know she , she

31:47

still has some issues around that . Yeah so

31:49

, but she's starting to love the face-sitting part

31:51

. And man , when we're in a city together

31:53

, the demands for that are insane

31:56

.

31:56

Oh , I bet . But

31:58

they want us to face it each other and

32:00

I'm like Fair

32:03

enough , but so , before

32:05

we get you out of here , you're

32:07

talking about body positive positivity and

32:09

you know , even talking about you know Aston

32:12

kind of coming into her own with that kind of stuff

32:14

. You were in a book recently , right

32:17

?

32:17

Oh , so I was . He

32:20

was a professor at Marion University

32:22

at the time and now he's somewhere else

32:24

, but he started this project

32:27

for a book fatphobia

32:30

, body positivity

32:32

and social media's impact on it

32:35

and he interviewed

32:37

a handful of us Girls

32:40

that are out there in whatever capacity

32:42

you know , doing body positivity

32:45

photography , the Instagrams

32:47

with the talking about the issues that

32:49

we experience in our bodies , and

32:51

that is , excuse

32:55

me , culminating . This month

32:57

, I believe that they

32:59

will be finally publishing . It found

33:02

a publisher and it will be made

33:04

into a whole bookie book .

33:06

Very cool . Yeah , you'll have to send it

33:08

to send us the details when it comes out and we'll have

33:10

. We'll post it on social media as well .

33:12

Very cool .

33:13

It's interested in it .

33:15

There's also a couple of . So I

33:17

worked with Julia shoots in LA . She's

33:20

a wonderful , amazing

33:22

Swedish photographer who lives

33:24

in LA now and and she's

33:27

put out I think it's three different

33:29

coffee table books and

33:32

I think at one point

33:34

one of them is going to be at available

33:36

at the MoMA . I'll have to get more details

33:38

, but Julia shoots I'm

33:41

in her three books . She did one that was

33:43

all around kind

33:45

of a pop star

33:47

photographer photography style

33:51

and and it's Dom's

33:53

and their subs and so

33:56

that's . That's pretty interesting and it's all just photography

33:59

. So I'll

34:01

find the information on that . I think that'll

34:03

be very cool to see very cool .

34:07

Well , I thank you for being here with us

34:09

today . I

34:12

know Beth misses you . We'll have you on

34:14

again when , when everything you know

34:16

we get back to you to full strength here

34:19

, because I know she misses you and

34:21

because you live in the same city as us , will

34:23

actually , you know , be in the same room hang

34:25

out . We had some listeners who said

34:27

you know , because what was ? 85 inches

34:30

around . Yeah

34:32

, 84 , 85 , we had emails

34:34

in and stuff , when you were on the first

34:36

time and said , hey , what you know , you

34:38

guys are talking about this , this large

34:41

and beautiful woman and I came to

34:43

YouTube because I was listening and then I wanted to see

34:45

. You know what I'm trying to get my mind

34:47

to wrap 85 inches around

34:50

and you never stand up and show

34:52

off . So we'll do something in person

34:54

when people can get a better

34:56

, better idea . But

34:58

also go follow Vivian on

35:00

Twitter , facebook , instagram . What are all of those

35:02

?

35:04

So on Twitter I'm BBW

35:06

Vivian Rose . On

35:09

Instagram I'm the Vivian

35:11

Rose , and and those

35:13

. Those are the basics . I try to

35:15

keep the Vivian Rose as

35:18

the theme .

35:19

Gotcha . Okay , well , cool

35:22

, there you go . I'll post

35:24

those links to your socials as well in the

35:26

in the show notes

35:28

, all that stuff . And

35:30

then if anybody wants to get in contact with you

35:32

or questions about you know , squashing

35:35

body positivity , stuff like that

35:37

, we did a whole Beth and I did

35:39

a whole episode About six

35:41

months ago or so about a guy emailed

35:44

in said you know , my wife , she

35:46

, you know she's had kids and now she's she

35:48

feels Unsexy . So how do

35:51

I bring out that body Body positivity ? That

35:53

was there when we first started dating kind of thing , and so we

35:55

do it into that a little bit . So

35:58

, but yeah , so anybody

36:00

who interested want to find out , go

36:02

check out Vivian Rose on Twitter , instagram

36:04

, all that fun stuff . Like I said , sit

36:06

down there in the show notes , feel free to go , click

36:09

and explore and learn . You

36:12

might find something that you're interested in

36:14

that you didn't . You know , talk

36:16

about finding things all the time that , oh

36:18

hey , never occurred to me that

36:21

you might be interested in .

36:24

Feel free to email me to you .

36:26

Cool , I'll put that down in the show notes as well . Thank

36:31

you for being here with us . I appreciate it . Holds

36:34

polls . Guys , girls , everybody . Feel

36:36

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36:38

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36:41

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36:43

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36:45

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36:48

this thing running . If you have any topics

36:50

you want to dive into , guess you're

36:52

interested in models . You

36:55

know I'm not gonna promise I can get

36:57

you know Kate Upton or anybody like that

37:00

on the show , but if you have a

37:02

somebody you follow in the sexy world that you want an

37:04

opinion on or you want to hear from , email

37:07

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37:09

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37:12

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37:15

in case there's somebody out there who goes oh , I'm

37:17

interested in this and I haven't heard anybody talk about it . So

37:20

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37:22

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37:24

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37:26

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37:29

, go for it . Thank

37:31

you for listening . We will be back here next week

37:33

. Keep praying for Beth and her family as

37:35

they they grieve the loss of

37:37

kaya Ambivian

37:40

. Thank you for being here and . Next

37:43

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37:47

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37:51

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37:54

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37:58

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38:00

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