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1:27

I'm just telling you right

1:29

now, if I start hooking up for the 24 year

1:31

old TikToker, it is Chris and have a Larry's fault.

1:35

Wait, I could see

1:37

that for you. I'm not a country one, but

1:39

I could. I wouldn't be shocked. I need a

1:41

general temperature check. Are you guys feeling

1:44

the way about this that I am, which is I am loving

1:46

this for her and I cannot get enough of the content.

1:49

Obviously we'll get into the whole thing,

1:51

but like just full transparency. This last

1:53

week I have been on a meditation

1:56

retreat in Mexico, like literally barely on

1:58

my phone. Oh, off

2:00

the grid. And. Imagine

2:02

coming out of a two and a half hour

2:05

meditation. Opening your phone thirty minutes later to

2:07

Kristin Cavallari Dating this twenty four year old

2:09

Country tic toc her from Montana. Is

2:12

now with a while they to be me.

2:14

The difference of. Like how I think

2:17

we both feel that this is a single most

2:19

excited about it. You obviously a little bit more

2:21

than I am, just they think that you generally

2:23

like. Are. A little bit more excited

2:25

about pressing have Laurie that I am. Not that

2:27

I'm not invested, but I think there's a slight

2:29

difference there are. The difference is I saw this

2:31

and I was. It makes sense and you saw

2:33

this new like oh my god. That

2:36

we're totally. Aligned and it making sense. I

2:38

mean it makes so my sense that I can't

2:40

believe it hasn't happened sooner. I think year earlier

2:42

point though. Yes, you know. I.

2:44

Think the way you cells it. Let's say

2:46

the O C one Tree Hill is the

2:48

way that I felt about Laguna Beach like

2:51

at Suny system have. Laurie was just the

2:53

oh gee cool girl and the ceiling that

2:55

I had about her then has never entirely

2:57

last. like I don't think a day will

2:59

come whine.kind of interested in what she's up

3:01

to. and so for me it's not the

3:03

fact that she's dating this twenty. Four year

3:06

old like country tic toc or

3:08

who makes singing videos and avoid

3:10

group called. The Montana boys, that is

3:12

all. Whatever is the we see announced

3:14

it being the most Kristin Cavallari way

3:16

ever. Like a full blown grid post,

3:18

he makes me happy immediately after featured

3:20

in his Tic Tacs Immediately after you

3:22

know, tic toc saying fuck the haters

3:24

like it is so on brand in

3:26

a way that makes you feel like

3:28

you know what so much has changed

3:30

in this world that it's so good

3:32

to know that the Kristin Cavallari we

3:34

knew back in the day has remained

3:36

the same. So. I was

3:38

gonna say that I think that it's

3:41

really comforting fall on premises to play

3:43

wouldn't necessarily say it's the same on

3:45

brand said it was when we were

3:48

growing up with are like some really

3:50

appreciate oppressing have Laurie is that she

3:52

had one brands when we were growing

3:55

up. it was the oh geez cool

3:57

girl Like everything you just said and.

4:00

she has grown with her brand, but

4:02

it's almost turned into its own thing.

4:04

We're like, you know, if

4:06

we were watching Laguna Beach, however,

4:08

many years ago, and she was dating a 24 year

4:11

old boy from Montana, we would have been like,

4:13

oh, that's so off brand of her to be

4:15

dating a country boy. But now it's like, Oh,

4:17

of course, Kristin Cavallari is like in Cabo doing

4:20

TikTok videos with a Montana boy who's 24

4:22

years old. Like how unbelievably on brand?

4:25

Wait, I want to clarify. The brand I'm

4:27

talking about is the general concept of not

4:29

giving a single fuck what anyone has to

4:31

say about what she does. The

4:34

specifics certainly have changed, you know,

4:36

the factors that we're dealing with. Absolutely. But

4:39

the thing that has remained constant over all

4:41

of these years is truly doing what she

4:43

wants, when she wants, and really

4:45

just simply not caring if anyone has something to

4:48

say about it. And that certainly

4:50

is something that came after the J Cutler

4:52

divorce, which I think was the best thing

4:54

for both of them. But obviously out

4:56

of the two of them, the one I care the most

4:58

about in terms of positive effect that had

5:01

on them was certainly her. But wait, can we pause

5:03

for a second? Cause I feel like we got a

5:05

little ahead of ourselves. Can we backtrack and explain the

5:07

situation? Cause I feel like potentially not everybody is as

5:10

still then as we are. Right. I

5:12

guess some could consider this niche to me.

5:14

It is so not niche, but I understand that

5:17

potential classification. So let me just give a

5:19

little recap in case you are confused about

5:21

what's going on. So a

5:23

week ago, last Tuesday, Chris and Cavallari posts

5:25

a selfie on Instagram with this very

5:27

hot young guy with

5:30

the caption, he makes me happy. Immediately,

5:32

the internet goes fucking crazy. A

5:35

lot of people seeing that didn't at first glance

5:37

know who he was. They just could tell he

5:39

looked young and hot and were very curious. However,

5:42

there were a subset of people that knew exactly who

5:44

he was because they had seen his content on Tik

5:46

TOK. So who is he?

5:48

His name is Mark Estes. He's 24 years old.

5:51

And You may have seen his videos because

5:54

he is part of a group called the

5:56

Montana Boys. It's him and his three friends,

5:58

Caleb and Cade. Five hundred

6:00

and forty thousand followers least the time

6:02

the recording this episode and he basically

6:04

do the tae to tick tock content

6:07

that the Ot Tic Tucker's went viral

6:09

for. so dancing with thinking videos that

6:11

I guess the Salander, the general umbrella

6:13

of Thirst Tracks they are you know,

6:15

Country Boys. They also have a clothing

6:17

line called Belmont Acres Clothing that they

6:19

promote but that's kind of their whole

6:21

stick to see first post that photo

6:23

Internet goes. Wild. everyone's like holy shit.

6:27

Seat. And post the ticked off also them

6:29

in Cabo kind of singing, kissing he lists or

6:31

ah. And. Then a

6:33

few days later, his. Boy Group: the

6:35

Montana. Boys post a video of

6:37

them singing to jason audience she's

6:40

country and christened comes in at

6:42

the end. important. You know it's I'm sure

6:44

many of you clocked at first glance. This video

6:46

was filmed in Heard Nashville. So.

6:49

Then as the internet is is going wild

6:51

over this specifically about the age gap against

6:53

she's thirty seven, he's twenty four She posted

6:55

Tic Toc live thinking to the audio this

6:57

like so it he gonna do about it

6:59

are you gonna arrest near going to give

7:01

me a ticket and she makes the caps

7:03

and when they're all. Up in arms that I'm

7:06

dating a twenty four year old and. And.

7:09

See. A lesson and before

7:11

we like get into any of the discussion

7:13

I know that the man had of what

7:15

is the deal. I didn't know about

7:17

that meeting like I wasn't following them. I could

7:19

never just pulled out the term Montana Boys that

7:21

I had definitely seen him on my for you

7:23

these before like when I saw the photo of

7:26

them as ugly I know that guy from somewhere

7:28

but I didn't immediately know where I knew them

7:30

from right? It wasn't immediately similar of sorry ass

7:32

and I had to because for a second was

7:34

like and I'm missing something here but I get

7:36

obviously makes sense that. I

7:39

think have a laurie seat. As said, a little bit

7:41

more country than my and his. right?

7:43

I mean, he's. Objective

7:45

Li very hard know. Yes,

7:47

I just see society fourth, which is not

7:49

a criticism of their age death. it's a

7:51

criticism of twenty. Four Your old man. But

7:54

see is like this is.

7:58

So. into

8:00

about the situation, meaning like into her vibe

8:02

about it. She's not coming on

8:04

here saying this is her husband. This is

8:06

a hot young guy who she's obviously having

8:09

a great time with who she clearly enjoys

8:11

enough as a person to like, actually spend

8:13

time with. And she is

8:15

so unconcerned with the potential negative

8:17

feedback or, you know, people

8:19

potentially having something to say when this inevitably

8:21

doesn't work out, that she wants to

8:23

post it because in this moment, she's happy,

8:26

she doesn't have another consideration. And that is

8:28

just the type of like, not

8:30

giving a fuck attitude that I can

8:32

appreciate. I can too, which

8:34

is kind of what I was saying before, like,

8:36

Kristen Cavallari, not giving a fuck is nothing new.

8:38

But the divorce of Jay Cutler certainly ushered in

8:41

like a new meaning of not giving a fuck.

8:43

And I think that's exactly what we're seeing here.

8:46

But I also think that, listen,

8:49

I don't know the intonauts of their relationship

8:51

in terms of Kristen and Jay, but from

8:53

what I saw, the aftermath

8:55

of a marriage to Jay Cutler would

8:57

certainly lead one to want to have

9:00

just a fun time with a hot

9:02

guy in Cabo. That's how I feel.

9:04

Well, first of all, keep in mind, her

9:06

and Jay Cutler announced their split initially in

9:09

April 2020. And then the divorce was finalized

9:11

June 2022. So it's not

9:13

like this was so long ago, it's still

9:15

relatively recent that, you know, she is completely

9:17

separate from him. And I would

9:19

go as far as to say, the aftermath

9:22

of any divorce that is messy, probably makes you

9:24

want to say, yeah, fuck it, let me go

9:26

to Cabo with a hot 24 year old. I

9:28

think specifically it being a divorce from Jay

9:30

Cutler, who, from a

9:32

lot of what we saw was relatively

9:34

unbearable, probably just amplifies

9:36

that. Yeah, I think so too.

9:38

You know, what's funny though, is when we were

9:40

doing the love is blind episode, obviously, we were

9:42

talking about how so much

9:45

of COVID for us, especially in those early

9:48

days was defined by our obsession with love

9:50

is blind and also with Tiger King. The

9:52

Chris and Cavalry Jay Cutler divorce was a

9:54

big one too. Like that was early on

9:57

that was April 2020. And I remember.

10:00

sitting downstairs in my house during COVID,

10:02

doing that episode with you, and

10:06

not us being necessarily shocked,

10:08

but us being so fucking

10:10

intrigued. So intrigued, one

10:12

because always intrigued whatever Christian

10:14

Cavallari is doing, specifically because from the

10:17

outside though, it seemed picture perfect. It

10:19

was giving a little Eric and Jesse

10:21

James Decker vibes. Okay, so

10:23

I understand how you could arrive at

10:25

that conclusion. To me, it never seemed

10:27

like that. To me, it seemed, and

10:29

maybe it's because I've always found him

10:31

to be unbearable, and so my automatic

10:33

assumption was that she probably had to

10:35

on some level too. It

10:38

seemed more like she was putting on

10:40

a front and she wasn't gonna let

10:42

any criticism enter their relationship,

10:44

and if somebody was coming at them,

10:46

she was going to defend that institution,

10:49

but she never really, I

10:51

don't know if she necessarily meant it with her

10:53

whole chest, but also that could be me protecting,

10:55

because I always was like, how is she

10:58

doing this essentially? Two

11:00

things, one, I think there's a part

11:02

of me that has blocked out that relationship so much

11:04

that I actually don't think I can give a completely

11:06

accurate response to what you just said, because I don't

11:08

remember what it felt like when they were together and

11:10

how she was at that time. Like

11:13

of course I could go back, but I don't remember how

11:15

I felt viewing the content as it was

11:17

happening, because I just so think in like

11:19

the post-Shake Color era. Second of

11:21

all, I just have to say, when you

11:23

mentioned Love is Blind, that was one of

11:25

the most fun I've ever had recording a

11:27

podcast episode. I have to tell

11:29

you, and I meant to say this to you, I actually

11:31

think that this is how I thought we were going to

11:33

start the episode. I was really thinking

11:36

about it as I was watching the next set

11:38

of episodes, which I think we're going to recap

11:40

all together with the finale. When

11:42

we were deciding to do that episode, I

11:44

was really concerned that we were jumping the

11:47

gun a little bit and doing a set

11:49

of episodes instead of waiting for

11:51

the entire thing to come out and then retapping

11:53

all the whole season. I am

11:56

so glad that we decided to do it

11:58

the way that we did, because I... think

12:00

having that break and digesting those first

12:02

couple of episodes and then understanding everybody

12:04

at play was so important for the

12:06

next stage of our analysis. Like I

12:08

am so glad that we got to

12:11

take everybody for who they were at

12:13

the early stage not have any outside

12:15

influences in terms of the

12:17

next stage of being able to talk about

12:19

it and now we can go into this

12:21

next part the next couple of episodes and

12:23

the finale with like almost a fresh

12:25

start. Aside from like

12:28

ability to analyze just from a

12:30

time perspective there's no way we would

12:32

have been able to fit everything into one. I

12:35

mean by the way and

12:37

I we're not getting into this I know

12:39

we are waiting to do this when we

12:41

record it Wednesday night to hopefully release Thursday.

12:43

Spoiler or surprise. But just

12:46

that conversation alone between Trevor and Chelsea at the lake

12:48

day are you fucking kidding me I could do an

12:50

episode on just that. The

12:53

lake day as a whole was

12:56

one of the crazier things I have ever

12:58

seen fever dream fever dream.

13:02

I can't because I have so much

13:04

to say about Chelsea and Jimmy that

13:06

I'm actually bursting at the scene and

13:08

something that I forgot which I

13:10

don't think I realized until I was watching the last episode

13:12

is that. I think I've

13:15

been watching this from the lens of like well

13:17

of course only Johnny and Amy are left together

13:19

like of course only Johnny and Amy get married

13:21

we don't know like playing a G could perfectly

13:23

end up married Chelsea and Jimmy could end up

13:25

married for all we know we don't know yet.

13:28

I mean technically no we don't know yet I also

13:30

I'm just telling you we're going

13:32

to have to potentially use a different word for Jeremy

13:35

because even the sound of that name triggers

13:37

my fight or flight. You know what

13:39

it is like. I

13:41

think everything how much time you got everything but

13:43

I was telling you recently I had like a

13:45

conversation with somebody I was like oh it's so

13:48

weird when you're like talking to a sociopath and

13:50

like the sound of their voice is like oh

13:52

you're a sociopath that is exactly how I feel

13:54

about Jeremy. It actually has nothing to do with

13:56

the bullshit that comes out of his mouth which

13:58

like is all bullshit. his

14:00

voice is so unnerving in a way

14:02

I didn't know was possible. Yeah,

14:04

I think unnerving is probably putting it lightly. You

14:06

know what? Let's put

14:08

a pin in this because I do

14:11

not trust either of us to not just fully

14:14

go in and we don't even have a love is blind outline

14:16

in front of us. So like, let's

14:18

pause and really fucking go for it

14:21

when we record Wednesday night. Just

14:23

be for yourself. I got it on my phone. How

14:27

are we so lucky to get this content? No? I

14:29

don't know. But I was watching it at home

14:31

though. And my mom was listening to me and

14:33

she's a big bachelor watcher. And she

14:36

was so deeply offended that I was

14:38

sitting there watching love is blind and

14:40

like enthralled by it. And she can't

14:43

get me to watch consistently the bachelor. They're like, sometimes

14:45

I'll watch it with her when I'm home, but she

14:47

wants me to be like as addicted as she is.

14:50

And she was looking at me like, I want

14:52

to say like what literal disgust you were like

14:55

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14:58

just don't get it. I

15:00

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15:02

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new episodes of love is blind is like some of

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15:13

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18:55

cannot tell you with 100% certainty that

18:57

anything we are going to say is

18:59

factual, meaning I can

19:01

tell you what the articles say, but I

19:04

don't have anything around the pulse in terms

19:06

of how real this

19:08

is. And I know that's kind of a weird way

19:10

to preface a news segment, but I

19:12

just feel like I have to say that because I

19:15

really don't know with this one. I

19:17

also feel like an important caveat

19:19

is like typically when we do this, right,

19:21

where we come on and we're like, we're really not sure if

19:23

this is legit, but let's fuck around and pretend for

19:26

the sake of a story. Like this

19:28

isn't one of those, you know what I

19:30

mean? Like I would rather pretend this isn't

19:32

real, but

19:34

like A, the fact that nobody has

19:36

come out and like denied

19:38

it yet is leading me to believe that there's some

19:40

truth behind it. And two, it's

19:43

not that I want to discuss this

19:45

necessarily. Like I typically

19:47

would in one where we're kind of like, okay, like

19:49

we're not sure, but let's fuck around. It's not that.

19:51

I just think it's too crazy to not. Well,

19:54

that's kind of how I feel. Like it's just

19:56

too wild to not specifically because it's not like

19:58

this is just one rumor that you you read

20:00

in the Star magazine at the

20:02

grocery checkout. Like this is literally

20:04

People magazine reporting this, you know? So

20:07

I think as long as

20:09

we approach it with like, we don't really know how legit

20:12

this is, let's have at it. So

20:15

wait, hold on. Something that's

20:17

really cracking me up as you're talking, I literally have

20:19

tears in my head. The

20:21

idea of somebody listening to this section and

20:24

having literally no idea what we're talking about,

20:26

which is certainly possible that somebody could come

20:28

on this podcast, listening to it and be

20:30

like, what the fuck are they about to

20:32

say? Like I actually feel like

20:34

whatever you think we're about to say, if

20:36

you don't know this story is like, I

20:39

wish I was you experiencing this headline

20:41

for the first time. It's

20:44

debatably weirder than what you're expecting, right?

20:47

I mean, I certainly, let's just say it. Okay.

20:49

Okay. Okay. Sorry. Long

20:53

intro for two headlines. Okay.

20:57

So let me

20:59

take you back to March 1st when People magazine

21:01

reports the headline. Noah

21:04

Cyrus and Dominic Purcell were quote, seeing

21:06

each other prior to mom Tish Cyrus

21:08

marrying the actor source. Okay.

21:10

I'm just going to read you these few lines. Noah

21:13

Cyrus and Dominic Purcell had been seeing each other

21:15

and ended things before he entered a relationship with

21:17

her mom, Tish Cyrus. A source

21:19

tells people on Friday that Noah 24 quote was offended.

21:23

Her mother 56 married

21:25

the prison break actor 54 after he and

21:27

the singer had previously hooked up.

21:30

Quote no one Dominic were seeing each other in

21:32

a friends with benefits way off and on. They

21:34

stopped seeing each other. And then Tish started something

21:36

up. Tish knew he had been seeing

21:38

Noah though. No one Purcell had

21:41

stopped seeing each other when his relationship with Tish

21:43

started. The source claims quote, Tish never gave Noah

21:45

the chance to talk about all of this before

21:47

they got married. Just

21:50

for clarification, we are talking about Miley's

21:53

mother, Tish Cyrus, her

21:55

new husband, actor Dominic Purcell and

21:57

her daughter Noah Cyrus. So

21:59

what this, The article is saying is that one of

22:01

the reasons behind this very public feud that

22:04

has been going on within the Cyrus family,

22:06

as you remember, Noah and one of her

22:08

siblings did not go to Tisha's wedding to

22:10

Dominic, is because, according to what this article

22:12

is alleging, Noah had a

22:14

relationship with him, aka her

22:16

mom's husband, prior to her mom. Just

22:20

like a moment to process, okay? Wait.

22:23

Two days later, March

22:25

3rd, People Magazine reports Miley Cyrus had,

22:27

quote, no idea about dating drama surrounding

22:29

mom Tish and sister Noah. It

22:32

says, Miley Cyrus is unaware of any

22:34

alleged drama surrounding her sister Noah Cyrus,

22:36

mother Tish Cyrus, and her mom's new

22:38

husband, Dominic Purcell, a source tell People

22:40

exclusively. Quote, Miley had no

22:42

idea about the drama with Dominic, no idea at all.

22:44

She confronts her mom about it. She thinks it's a

22:46

strange situation, but she loves her mom and wants her

22:48

to be happy. Just

22:50

one more time, for purposes of painting a picture, Noah is

22:53

24, her mom Tish is 56, and

22:56

her mom's husband Dominic is 54. This

22:58

is one of the crazier stories I've ever heard. I

23:02

still in this moment can't believe it's legit. Like

23:04

I am choosing to believe that it is not

23:06

real until proven otherwise, yet I still want to

23:08

discuss it, considering that it could be.

23:12

Well, I just think if it's not real,

23:14

that's the kind of thing that Tish Cyrus

23:16

comes out and says these reports are absolutely

23:18

not true. So the

23:20

fact that that hasn't happened is, I

23:23

don't know, it's leading me to believe that there is

23:25

something here. It's just, you know what? It's a

23:27

very specific story for somebody to come

23:29

up with on their own. Right

23:32

up to me, I'm like, the creativity

23:34

is unmatched. This is false.

23:37

The other thing here is that, first

23:41

of all, I don't believe that Miley didn't know, but on

23:44

top of that, I also don't believe that

23:46

this is the only thing. Like

23:48

there is clearly a lot of other issues going

23:50

on. And this is maybe

23:52

the main issue. This is maybe the straw

23:55

that broke the camel's back in terms of

23:57

familial relationship, but like there's

23:59

gotta be. other stuff going on here too,

24:01

because let's say for argument's sake, Miley

24:04

really didn't know about this, but she's just

24:06

at her mom's wedding, her sister isn't there,

24:08

and she's like, wonder why that is, no

24:10

idea. And then all of a sudden this

24:13

news story is rigged, she's like, oh, okay,

24:15

that makes sense. Like, that obviously isn't how

24:17

this played out. No, there's no

24:19

way that that's how it went down, if any of

24:22

this is hypothetically true. I also, despite what many articles

24:24

say, if you're asking me, I certainly

24:26

think there are other factors at play that caused

24:29

a rift. This

24:32

is just the last thing I was ever

24:34

expecting. Like, talk about the last headline you

24:36

were ever expecting to read, that Noah Cyrus

24:38

is pissed at her mom because she basically

24:41

stole her boyfriend or

24:43

fling of 30 years older and

24:45

then married him. That's fucking

24:47

nuts. And also, then the

24:49

question is, let's just for one second, I

24:51

know we said we weren't going to do this, but just for the

24:53

purpose of this conversation, assume that this is true. I

24:56

then asked myself, okay, is there a world in

24:58

which Tish didn't know that Noah

25:00

was seeing him, which again

25:02

feels really specific that they would both go

25:04

for the same guy, but just trying to

25:06

put my head in this headspace. And then

25:08

second of all, isn't

25:11

that something that would be so

25:13

deeply unappealing? Like, wouldn't the sheer fact that he

25:15

was dating your daughter who's 30 years younger than

25:17

him be enough to turn you off to ever

25:20

wanting to date him? I know

25:23

it's crazy. It's like, how are we even talking about

25:25

this? I don't know how to

25:27

talk about it because I feel like typically you

25:29

and I are so excited to come on and

25:31

talk about family dynamics and analyze the situation from

25:34

every angle. I don't know how to talk about

25:36

this in any sort of way that like, forget

25:38

about remotely makes sense, but like, would remotely

25:41

benefit from my opinion if I even had

25:43

one. I just think this whole thing is

25:45

so crazy. It's like, here's a couple of

25:47

scenarios. You

25:50

date and marry the guy that your daughter

25:52

was dating and you knew about it.

25:54

Crazy. You date and marry

25:56

the guy that your daughter was dating or hooking up

25:58

with and you didn't know about it. And now

26:00

you're in very true somebody who did not

26:02

disclose the information that they

26:05

had a situation with their

26:07

daughter three you happen

26:09

to have the exact same type as

26:12

your Mom, like how'd everybody

26:14

need and also I'm pretty sure she

26:16

said in the episode of call her

26:18

daddy that He was her

26:20

hall pass during her marriage with Billy. So what

26:22

you hooked up with your mom's hall pass and

26:24

then she married him It's

26:26

like what that's like if I hooked up with Donny Osmond and my

26:29

mom married him Really

26:34

fucking with me Julie, I don't know how I've never

26:36

I don't know if I've ever felt This

26:39

lack of an ability to talk about something

26:41

even remotely eloquently on a podcast. I don't

26:43

know what to say I'm truly at a

26:45

loss for words because every scenario is weirder

26:47

than the next Even even in

26:49

its most simplest form the fact that this is

26:51

a headline like let's say this really is totally

26:54

false Who the fuck comes up

26:56

with this? Right how like I would

26:58

have never been able to come up with even

27:00

something remotely this weird, which is like How

27:03

are you gonna live out a scenario if it

27:05

is true that somebody couldn't even have remotely come up

27:07

with and I don't even know And this is so

27:09

weird. It's really bizarre guys. What

27:11

do you think? Do you feel that there's any truth

27:13

to this? I mean By

27:19

the way I

27:25

Just picture like Noah and tish

27:28

watching prison break together And it's

27:30

like oh if we could just go back in

27:32

time and not turn on season one episode on

27:34

a prison break on Netflix Like we'd be a

27:36

family. That is honestly one of the craziest sentences

27:39

that has ever come out of my mouth Prison

27:42

ring is literally ripping families

27:44

apart for my sanity. I'm

27:46

believing that this is untrue for

27:48

like so many reasons but primarily because I

27:51

just I think too highly of tish

27:53

I That's

27:55

my we crazy there crazy things

27:57

believe how to call her daddy Right,

28:00

if you're Alex Kuevira, you're like, wait a

28:03

damn minute. I'm very intrigued by

28:05

the whole dynamic of the Cyrus family. That's

28:08

my thing with this whole thing too is prior

28:11

to this coming out, I was very,

28:13

very curious like to, you know,

28:15

we grew up with Miley and Billy on the same

28:17

show together. Obviously that was such an

28:19

example of father daughter relationship that we knew for so

28:21

many years. And so in our mind, to

28:24

have them no longer on speaking term was

28:26

crazy enough as is. And then you add

28:28

in the dynamic of the siblings that's speaking

28:30

and Miley and Noah, who were once really,

28:32

really close, not talking and them not attending

28:35

each individual parents wedding in different bunches

28:38

of siblings. Like all of that is

28:40

insane as is. And so I've been

28:42

incredibly intrigued this entire time as to

28:44

what could have caused that. And

28:47

again, I go back to the point of it

28:49

can't just be this because there's too many dynamics

28:51

at play for this to be the only thing

28:54

involved. So the

28:56

fact that there are other things involved

28:58

and this is a piece of the

29:01

puzzle and not like the entire family

29:03

drama is the craziest aspects of the

29:05

entire thing. Like there's more than this.

29:08

Right. Like, what was that? What

29:10

was the oxyclic? What's the name? Billy

29:12

Mays. But wait, there's more. Yeah, that's

29:15

he is losing it up there right now. RIP.

29:22

Remember, you'd be a blessing. I miss him. I

29:24

forgot about that. Yeah, I know. Well,

29:27

never thought Tish Cyrus would make you think of

29:29

oxy clean, huh? I

29:31

was just watching the clip of Tana and

29:34

Brooke and Jake Shane talking about

29:36

like, remembering people they didn't know was dead were

29:38

dead. And that's exactly how I felt. The clip

29:40

that you send me of Tana and Brooke, Brooke

29:42

is like, you know, sometimes it's like we're

29:45

really riffing and then you just say something. And

29:47

I'm like, no, what was what were

29:49

they talking about? Fucking Jake.

29:52

But it was about Drake. No, it was about Drake's day. And

29:54

they were like talking about something. They were

29:56

talking about like, like their feelings on like a guy with

29:59

like a really big dick. In. General.

30:02

Advice for you know, like you're looking at it, would

30:04

you feel like a little turd? All else. Is

30:07

I believe are really. Really good. The news is legally

30:10

no longer release you and I was a bad

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I sentence you to decide Bielema, You align eye

30:14

on a surly in those contests like a lot

30:16

of times we're talking and then you're on a

30:18

meditation or three and I'm like no more flies.

30:27

With a says even listening to the podcast

30:29

for Law Now there are two things you

30:31

probably know about me. The first is that

30:33

I need die hard. Oh geez given said

30:35

like they're literally the times we had to

30:37

pause recording because certain product that they. Need

30:39

to buy. And second of all you know

30:41

historically I kind of this never wear a

30:43

bra. So what we're talking about years kind

30:45

of merging those two things because blizzard other

30:47

the on a steel. I'm never going to

30:49

be a daily bra. Were not the car

30:51

sir me never has and never will be.

30:53

However, there was recently been more events. I

30:55

had a lot of weddings and just. There.

30:58

Sometimes you gotta wear a bra and when

31:00

I tell you skims is seeing the game

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for me because as seem comfort that I

31:04

talk about with the underwear in the lounge

31:06

where they did that with their brows and

31:08

recently in the past. Month I've worn these sets

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everybody t shirt brought and the know show balcon

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abroad and were that one to a wedding and

31:14

or address and like it was the first time

31:16

in my life Worth number one. I. Was it

31:18

miserable? and second of all I didn't have

31:20

moments like immediately wanna take it off which

31:22

I'm telling is a foreign concept for me

31:24

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31:26

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32:44

I bring up something else? Of course.

32:47

Do you think that Timmy and Kylie broke up? What

32:50

makes you say that? Do

32:55

you expect her to be the Dune premiere? Yeah,

32:57

like her complete lack of anything

32:59

surrounding Dune. Dune too, I

33:02

feel like is bigger than Wonka and we

33:04

saw her at a couple of the Wonka premieres,

33:06

not at them like red carpet wise.

33:08

Just, you know, here's a picture

33:10

of Kylie Jenner leaving the Wonka after party.

33:12

Here's Kylie Jenner in London. Like nothing

33:15

with Dune really. You're going to pass up the opportunity

33:17

to hang out with that cast. I mean, it's certainly

33:19

possible, but I hadn't thought that until you said it.

33:21

I guess I'm just so used to going through long

33:24

periods of time where we get zero

33:26

to no content that it actually doesn't feel so out

33:28

of the norm for me. I think

33:30

they're broken up. I just have a feeling. Wow.

33:34

Okay, hot take. I really, really hope you're

33:36

wrong for our sake. I

33:38

hope we're wrong too, because I feel

33:41

like we've gotten such amazing content of them. But

33:43

in my mind, it was like, okay, this is

33:45

the beginning and we're going to get so much

33:47

more. And so I would hate for it to

33:49

be over before it ever really started strictly content

33:51

wise, obviously for their sake too, of course, you

33:54

know, an necessary caveat, but content wise, like I

33:56

would hate for it to be truly over before

33:58

we ever really got the big. show.

34:01

But the one thing that I find comfort in

34:03

in both of them is that there is always

34:05

going to be that next person who will probably

34:07

be, I don't want to say equally

34:09

as exciting, this was kind of a thing of

34:11

its own, but certainly worthy of discussion and analysis.

34:14

So if they are broken up,

34:16

I feel like I can come to terms

34:18

with it knowing that whatever is

34:20

next is going to be fun as well. Well, I

34:22

think my response to that if we're looking at it, like, admittedly

34:25

only from the most superficial angle ever, which is

34:27

just content wise and like, removing whatever

34:29

may be going on with them just this

34:32

for purposes of this one conversation like, I

34:35

both feel fully sure that whoever

34:38

Kylie dates will be a holy

34:41

shit moment and certainly prompt a conversation.

34:44

I do think though the specific

34:46

reaction to Timothy was unique. Like

34:49

I do that is something that can never be

34:51

recreated. It's similar to Kim and Pete. Like

34:53

I'm not saying she couldn't date someone or

34:56

would be like, holy fuck, pretty much anyone

34:58

she did, I guess would be like that.

35:00

But nothing would compare to Timothy and Kylie

35:03

at Beyonce or the US Open. Like that

35:05

was a very specific brand of reaction to

35:07

celebrity coupling. And I

35:09

wouldn't even disrespect it by trying to compare it. Of

35:12

course not. Of course not. It was its own

35:14

thing. And when I were talking about it in

35:16

the past 10, we don't even know if it

35:18

is you have really just like gotten you on

35:20

board with this. You know, you

35:22

have it. You have it. You have it. I'm

35:24

doing it for purposes of the conversation, but I

35:27

don't think so. And I again, like

35:29

you could absolutely be right. I just don't

35:32

think that that's the case. If it

35:34

is the case, Kylie

35:36

intimacy was certainly its own thing.

35:38

It's exactly like Kim and Pete

35:40

never to be replicated again. But

35:42

I think we keep experiencing over

35:44

and over again is like there

35:48

is something that is inherently

35:50

more newsworthy and headline making

35:53

and exciting and worthy of

35:56

deep, deep analysis and obsessing over and

35:58

all of those things. that comes

36:01

specifically from somebody unexpected dating

36:03

specifically a cardashian so as

36:05

long as Kylie or

36:07

Kim or Chloe please soon date

36:09

somebody that's a little bit unexpected

36:11

We will always have that element

36:13

involved. Yes, of course. There's a

36:15

baseline of of freak out that

36:17

will exist I actually wanted to

36:19

say to you. I don't

36:21

have the link. I don't remember what podcast it was

36:23

but french, Montana was on

36:25

some podcasts and the host basically asked him

36:27

like what do you think about those

36:29

Kardashian women kind of like Alluding to

36:32

the Kardashian curse or you know how it is

36:34

to be a man Dating

36:36

the women in that family and he

36:39

came back really defensive of them. He was like,

36:41

no, no They are really

36:43

powerful women. They have given

36:45

me nothing but love always gave me nothing but

36:47

love I seek him all the time. I just

36:49

saw Chloe like I have nothing but good things

36:52

to say about them and That's

36:54

other people's shit. It was a response that

36:56

I was like, you know what if I was Chloe watching this I'd feel

36:58

really Satisfied with that response.

37:01

I think so too and I think that tends to

37:03

be a pattern, right? Like it's usually

37:05

the people who have been in their lives that

37:08

say the most positive things about them Even if

37:10

they're not together, it's the people that have never

37:12

really Been

37:14

involved with them that are out there

37:17

talking the most shit. But wait also while we're on

37:19

the subject of X's Kendall

37:21

and Devin potentially back together question mark

37:24

Yeah, so this was an article from people the

37:26

headline was Kendall Jenner and Devin Booker are slowly

37:28

navigating a restart to their romance 15

37:31

months after split Quote two months after

37:33

the model 28 split from bad bunny after

37:35

less than a year of dating a source tells people

37:37

that she and Booker 27

37:39

are definitely quote slowly navigating a restart

37:42

the pair dated for two years before quietly breaking up in

37:44

November 2022 And the

37:46

quote that was given at the time was from a source

37:48

that said both have incredibly busy schedules right now with their

37:50

careers And they decided to make that a priority So

37:53

generally speaking it was never the vibe that there

37:55

was like some crazy bad blood other than you

37:58

know some potential jealousy

38:00

from Devon side about the bad bunny

38:02

relationship. But like it

38:04

always had the vibe of that that door maybe being

38:06

open. I don't know. I mean, this would

38:08

not surprise me in the slightest,

38:11

especially because it seemed

38:13

from the outside world. And I have

38:15

no idea how real this is that like the

38:17

bad bunny relationship and the Devon relationship could not

38:20

have been more different. And that the bad bunny

38:22

one was something that came into her life for

38:24

a certain period of time gave her that experience

38:26

was really fun. And

38:29

maybe some could say it

38:31

had the perception of being more exciting. But like

38:33

that wasn't the long term one, whereas Devon, maybe

38:36

it appeared to be like a little bit more

38:38

mellow, but maybe, you

38:40

know, had more long term potential. I don't know.

38:42

Again, I say this, I don't mean it in a

38:44

fucked up way. It's just my truth. Like, I

38:46

don't really care that much one way or another. I'm

38:48

happy for her. If she's happy, I'm never going to

38:51

have the same enthusiasm I have over a Kylie relationship.

38:53

It's so funny, because I was just about

38:55

to say, you know what, when we were

38:58

talking about this a minute ago, I said

39:00

any unlikely pairing with Kylie, Chloe and Kim

39:02

is going to be worthy of analysis and

39:05

worthy of discussion and give us

39:07

a moment. I

39:10

feel like I undercut

39:12

Kendall in that situation, not with Devon.

39:14

The bad bunny Kendall relationship was a

39:16

lot of fun. And I truly enjoyed

39:18

every single moment of it. And I

39:20

wouldn't necessarily say it was worthy of

39:23

analysis, but it was certainly worthy of

39:25

discussion. And I think that when those

39:27

pictures came out of them together, the

39:29

first couple of times, the first date

39:31

with Justin and Haley, like I was

39:33

so excited to see that. So I

39:36

don't mean to discount that. No, I

39:38

think that's fair. But I also think

39:40

that's like so bad bunny specific, you know,

39:42

of course, of course. It's

39:45

so funny. I was talking to someone this week who is so

39:48

not in tune with pop culture, like just

39:50

truly has absolutely no interest. And typically when

39:52

someone says that, you know,

39:54

they have some baseline knowledge of like the Kardashians, right?

39:57

So even if it's against their will, they knew that

39:59

Kim and Pete were dating or they know that

40:01

Kylie and Timothy is dating and they

40:03

approach it with zero enthusiasm, but like

40:05

somehow against their will, it has entered

40:07

their consciousness. And

40:11

I was talking to someone about Courtney,

40:14

I said something and she was like, Oh,

40:16

she's dating the

40:18

tattoo guy. And

40:20

I was like, Oh, okay, had

40:23

this moment of just not knowing exactly how to

40:25

respond. And I started to ask a question, which

40:28

I don't even know what the question was going

40:30

to be. I just needed to ask about like,

40:32

how are we so living in two different worlds?

40:35

And she starts to see me ask the question. She goes, so

40:37

what do I do for fun? And I was

40:40

like, yeah, I was like, what

40:42

are your hobbies? Like I, it's that I

40:44

literally like lost the ability to formulate a

40:47

sentence because I was so caught off guard

40:49

with me feeling like, holy shit, I invest

40:51

so much time and interest and given yes,

40:53

it is my career into like, literally

40:56

the intricacies of like Penelope and North's

40:58

dynamic. Meanwhile, this girl truly did not

41:00

know, first of all, Travis Barker, but

41:02

second of all, that Courtney was even

41:04

married to him. Like, and I don't

41:06

know, it was just one

41:08

of the most jarring moments I've had in

41:10

a while, because I guess so much of

41:12

the people we interact with about this stuff,

41:15

like maybe aren't as well versus us, like

41:17

certainly care. And it was almost like very

41:19

humbling. You know? Okay, so here's my thing.

41:21

Like, I understand exactly what you're saying, because

41:23

I have had a lot of interactions like

41:25

that in my life, too. And the conclusion that

41:27

I come to every time is like, I

41:30

just constantly feel like I'm being

41:33

bullshitted by these people. Like, it's

41:35

one thing to not know the

41:37

niche stuff. You know what, it's even

41:39

one thing to not know, like, what

41:41

we consider to be pretty common celebrity

41:44

drama, I don't even mean Kardashian specific.

41:46

But when they come at me and they're like, Oh, yeah, she

41:48

was a

41:51

she was married to who was that that rapper?

41:53

I'm like, I feel like

41:55

you're trying to prove a point. Like, I feel

41:57

like you're purposely pretending that you don't know these

41:59

things. like because how

42:02

you know what I mean like okay

42:04

I understand if it's one thing where

42:07

you're not like going out of your

42:09

way to absorb celebrity news but celebrity

42:11

news makes its way into everybody's orbit

42:14

one way or another like if you're watching the

42:16

news celebrity news is a part of the regular news

42:18

it comes up if you're on Twitter if you're on

42:20

Instagram if you're on Facebook like these articles pop up

42:22

people are talking about it people talk about it in

42:24

life like I just

42:26

always feel like if you

42:29

have really successfully avoided every

42:31

ounce of very very common celebrity

42:34

knowledge like you gotta go

42:36

out of your way to a certain extent to do

42:38

that and like to me I'm like I

42:40

just think you're kind of lying okay I

42:42

have certainly had interactions with people where it the

42:44

lack of knowledge feels almost

42:47

performative this one was just

42:49

not that it was like 100,000% so deeply authentic

42:51

and it was just so interesting

42:55

like I think my reaction

42:57

to it my involuntary reaction was really interesting

43:00

I almost like lost my ability to effectively

43:02

communicate I understand that you know I noticed

43:04

it was like men a lot like dad's like anybody

43:06

over the age of like 40 50

43:08

who you're conversing with and they're like oh

43:11

I had no idea I'm like

43:13

yes you did like you're a normal guy

43:15

who absorbs normal news like I know you're

43:17

bullshitting me right now but also dads can

43:19

sometimes do the reverse

43:21

where they're so excited to tell you that

43:24

they know information like when my dad will hit

43:26

us like of course I know Clint he's married

43:28

to Travis Baca my dad does

43:30

that to me because he's like really

43:32

like he loves Apple News he loves

43:34

telling me two things anything he saw

43:36

in Apple News where he didn't actually

43:38

read the article he only saw the

43:41

headline and anything

43:43

that was sent on NPR the only time I ever

43:45

hear the words NPR is when my dad comes out

43:47

of the car and it's

43:50

always so delayed like it is always

43:52

something that I heard about like five

43:54

days ago it's like almost like when your friend sends you

43:56

a meme or a TikTok and you have to pretend that

43:58

you haven't seen it because it's just too

44:00

often that you've said like, I've already seen this. Like, that's

44:02

what I have to do with my dad. Like sometimes I

44:04

throw a bone and I'm like, oh my God, really? I

44:06

didn't know that. And he's like, I know you knew that.

44:08

I just like wanted to tell you anyway. The

44:12

throwing of the bone is so important. I don't

44:14

pretend that I didn't know, but I always am

44:17

like equally as enthusiastic every

44:19

time that he knows. Right. You

44:21

know, like you got it, it's positive reinforcement. I

44:24

never want there to be a day where he

44:26

stops telling me a celebrity fact that he found

44:28

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so as we know, last Friday, Rihanna

46:32

performed in India and this was part

46:34

of the three day pre-wedding celebration for

46:36

the son of Indian billionaire Mukesh Ambani.

46:39

He's the richest man in India and the 10th richest man

46:41

in the world with a net worth of about $112 billion.

46:45

For context, in 2018, Beyonce

46:48

performed at his daughter's wedding. So like they

46:51

are not fucking around when it comes to entertainment. According

46:54

to TMZ, just because the financial logistics

46:56

are interesting, Rihanna was reportedly paid $6

46:58

million for the appearance. Obviously

47:00

anytime Rihanna performs, it's a big deal because

47:02

she hasn't had a full concert in eight

47:04

years and then she hasn't had a public

47:07

performance since the Super Bowl last year. But

47:09

then what came out after the fact is

47:11

that this guy Mukesh Ambani just acquired the

47:13

rights to Sephora India last year. So

47:16

more likely than not, this has some sort of a

47:18

business tie, obviously with Fenty being

47:20

distributed in Sephora India, all of that.

47:22

It was just so interesting, like the progression

47:24

of events here because anytime Rihanna

47:27

performed, it's a story because it happens unfortunately

47:29

so infrequently. It's like we all wanted to

47:31

watch it. And then also it was like,

47:33

wait, this is probably just a means to an end for

47:35

her. One of the crazier things

47:37

I've ever heard in my life was the

47:39

fact that this was just part of the

47:41

three day free wedding celebration and the Rihanna

47:43

performance wasn't even for the actual wedding. There's

47:47

money and then there's money, you know? No.

47:50

It is impossible to

47:53

comprehend, but I was

47:55

truly obsessed with every

47:57

single video that was coming out. I

48:00

think I saw that performance from

48:02

every video, from every angle. I

48:05

saw the discussion about the zoom in

48:07

shot of her doing all of the lights where it

48:09

zooms out and everybody thought it was an Android because

48:11

of the quality of the camera. And then the guy

48:13

had to prove that it was taken on a 13

48:15

Pro Max iPhone. Like

48:18

all of that. I have seen every

48:20

ounce of discussion, every ounce of content,

48:22

every ounce of video that has to

48:24

do with Rihanna, including the

48:27

non-performance stuff. I was just living for this

48:29

because we don't get this from Rihanna. No,

48:31

we don't get this for Rihanna at all.

48:33

And it was so funny because obviously

48:36

fans of Rihanna's music, of course,

48:38

have had this collective frustration for the past

48:40

however many years of like, we are

48:42

so happy for you with what you built

48:45

with Fenty. We think it's incredible, but also like,

48:47

hey, don't forget about us. And then you have

48:49

this moment where you're like, oh my God, she's

48:51

performing. Maybe

48:54

this is going to signal some sort of a

48:56

music comeback. And then it's like, oh, no, no,

48:58

no, she was just doing this for Fenty's benefit.

49:00

And you're like, wow, really got played there. You

49:03

really do your own. Yeah, really do your

49:05

own. Like I say that while using

49:07

the Matchstick highlighter. By the

49:10

way, the thing with Fenty, you can

49:12

only be so mad because it is

49:14

such a truly incredible product. I

49:16

do think that with the Super Bowl, with this

49:19

performance, we are certainly ushering in a new age

49:22

of music. I

49:25

don't think it will be on any of

49:28

the timelines any of us were hoping for,

49:30

but I certainly think that we will one

49:32

day get our nine. Like I have not

49:34

lost hope on that. I saw a video

49:36

where somebody was asking ASAP Rocky

49:38

like when's Rihanna's album coming? And he's like, she's working

49:40

on it. And the tweet was like, get you a

49:42

man that will lie for you. Yeah,

49:47

I fucking love them together. My excitement for

49:49

them together has not faded. Actually, it's only

49:51

grown. I agree. It is

49:53

grown actually, factually. Yeah. It wasn't

49:55

fully on board, I don't think in the beginning. He

49:58

just adores her in a way that I find

50:00

to be so endearing because it doesn't have that

50:02

energy of like putting her so

50:04

high in a pedestal that it creates this

50:06

kind of, what I actually think turns into almost

50:08

like a toxic dynamic. It's like

50:11

he feels obviously worthy of

50:14

being with her. Like he's not lacking his own

50:16

confidence in that, although he is also

50:18

in constant awe of the fact that he gets

50:20

to be. Well, I would say that's

50:22

very similar to the dynamic that we've seen so far

50:24

of Travis and Taylor. Yeah, I

50:27

think that's fair. It's like very confident in

50:29

who they are, what they bring to the

50:31

table, and simultaneously in all of their partner

50:33

and everything they bring to the table. I

50:35

totally agree. And I think that what

50:37

you're picking up on is there's a

50:39

very toxic trait, I feel like,

50:41

that men have when they

50:43

claim to be with a woman that

50:45

like they can't believe they got where

50:47

it's like very self-deprecating and not like

50:49

a positive self-deprecating way and like a

50:52

toxic self-deprecating way where it almost excuses

50:54

a lot of their behavior. It's like,

50:56

oh, you don't deserve this. You shouldn't be with a

50:58

guy like me. I

51:01

think that when we hear the kind of

51:03

like pedestal thing or like can't believe he's

51:05

with her, that's sometimes where our mind goes

51:07

to. But I

51:09

think that what we're seeing here is clearly

51:12

the example of like, that is not automatically

51:14

a negative. It's only a negative when the

51:16

person uses it to excuse toxic behavior. Yes.

51:20

And I would say generally speaking when someone tells

51:22

you, you are just so incredible

51:24

and I'm so undeserving of you, believe them.

51:27

True. Like if you don't like

51:29

that, yeah, no need to

51:31

sit around and convince you of something because that's how

51:33

you feel about what you can bring me. I'm certainly not

51:35

going to be waiting here to find out. No,

51:38

that's true. By the way, just one Taylor and

51:40

Travis thing. We're not even a Taylor and Travis

51:42

thing, just a Travis specific thing. The

51:44

video of him crying while Jason

51:46

is crying announcing his retirement really

51:48

fucking got me today. That's

51:50

another one. Like, why am I

51:52

also now crying at Jason Kelsey's

51:54

retirement announcement? Like

51:57

prior to him and Taylor, that's

51:59

just. not content I would have

52:01

ever consumed. Meanwhile, now here I am

52:03

weeping. Right. I don't understand

52:06

how he ended up here. I specifically do not

52:08

understand how I ended up here. The only thing

52:10

that I can make sense of is I

52:12

often would cry anytime I saw a

52:15

grown man crying. So exact to me

52:17

I can understand, but

52:20

the understanding of why I am crying

52:22

and what this means and who is

52:24

affected, what is going on? No,

52:27

a lot of layers there. Truly a life comes

52:29

at you fast moment, truly. All

52:32

right, is there anything else that you would like to

52:34

mention? I think that's it.

52:37

I think so too. Well, we love you guys. Thank

52:39

you for listening and letting us do this. And we'll

52:41

see you later this week for Motherfucking

52:44

Love is Blind. I am

52:46

so excited. I'm so excited.