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Dr. Janice, may I call you

2:37

Dr. Janice? First

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of all, I love your leather jacket. You look very

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cool. Thank you. And I'm curious,

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where are you right now? Miami Beach. Oh,

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you're in Miami, okay. I was

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congratulate you on living in Miami. That's very nice. Well,

3:02

it was a very worthwhile decision. Yes,

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I think so. And Dr. Janice, what

3:06

kind of doctor are you? What

3:08

kind of doctor? That's what

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I usually ask people when I meet them. What kind of

3:12

doctor do you think I am? I'm a sex therapist. Hell

3:16

yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, she is. No,

3:19

that's like. I try not to tell people too

3:21

much, you know, like on a plane because then they'll

3:23

speak to me for hours. Right.

3:26

That's okay. No, exactly. I

3:28

think it's probably akin to telling

3:30

someone you're a dermatologist because everyone then wants

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to show you, hey, what is

3:35

this on my arm? What do you think?

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And they just, basically they want free advice

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and that's what you would get if you

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are sharing an airplane seat with someone and

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they find out you're a sex therapist, suddenly

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they're asking you all about sex. Yes,

3:48

and I told my kids to wear hazmat

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suits when they listen to this because

3:52

I said, I'm going, wherever you go,

3:54

I will go with you. Well, fortunately,

3:57

Dr. Janice, this is

3:59

a very upstanding podcast. Wait

4:01

a minute, I was listening to

4:03

you, I was listening, by the way,

4:05

I have to say hello to David, because I see

4:07

it's David, not Matt. But anyway, I

4:09

was listening just to kind of refresh my mind,

4:11

and what did I come across? Your

4:14

fantastic discussion about Santa

4:17

Claus' pornography. Oh my God,

4:19

that's scarred, I remember that.

4:22

I can't remember it. And

4:24

his wife, Sandra Claus,

4:27

and how he kept asking her to get onto

4:29

his North Pole. Yes. Wow.

4:32

Remember when I said this is a high class podcast? I

4:35

was talking about a different podcast, a

4:37

history podcast I listened to. That's right.

4:40

But, okay, so you're a sex therapist,

4:42

you've been doing this for a while,

4:45

and tell me, okay,

4:47

I'm going to try and cut to the chase here. Most

4:50

people when they come and talk to you, what

4:52

do you think the big issue is, societally,

4:54

among people, what's the big hang up that

4:56

people have about sex? Have you seen a

4:59

trend? Do you think there's a

5:01

common problem that most couples have or most

5:03

people have? Oh, we're going to go serious.

5:05

Okay, by the way, I teach, I train

5:07

sex therapists. That's my main thing. But,

5:10

the biggest issue, the biggest problem people

5:12

have are expectations, because most people these

5:15

days learn about sex

5:17

from pornography. And

5:19

that is not real. That's

5:22

scripted adult entertainment. There's

5:24

a great place for it.

5:26

It's fantastic. But, that's not

5:28

how sex goes. Right. It's

5:31

not someone comes to the door with a

5:33

pizza and they

5:35

say, it's got extra sausage, and

5:37

then music starts to play. Well,

5:40

you're talking about the block. I

5:43

think she's talking about the actual sex

5:45

that happened. Oh, and what is... Oh,

5:47

okay. Do you mean the

5:50

duration? No, because he thinks that's real so

5:52

much. It's real. Yeah, I

5:54

have found, much to

5:56

my horror and shock, that most

5:58

pizza delivery people... just deliver the

6:01

pizza and then you pay

6:03

and they leave. You didn't do anything weird, right?

6:06

Well I asked them does it have extra

6:08

sausage and they said you didn't even order

6:10

sausage Mr. Orion and I've got to go.

6:13

I've got seven more Domino's deliveries to make

6:15

and so I'm

6:17

just always confused. That's

6:19

how my expectations are not met but my

6:22

question for you is, is it about

6:25

what is it that porn is

6:27

doing? Is it porn,

6:30

the sex act seems to happen instantly

6:32

and last for hours because there's these

6:34

different montages? It's

6:36

instant. All partners

6:38

have orgasms. There's no hair

6:40

in the wrong places. There's no people falling

6:43

off the bed. There's no stopping in the

6:45

middle because you changed your mind. There's

6:47

no, I, you know. Do

6:50

people ever, I mean my thing is I stop in the middle

6:52

sometimes because I forget what I'm doing. Oh

6:54

no. It's not changed my mind. Okay.

6:58

And I think I'm at the bank. Oh

7:00

no. That's not okay. Well no, it's

7:02

a problem I have. This is peculiar

7:04

to me. Uh huh. Okay. Alright.

7:08

And sometimes I'm at the bank and I think well anyway that's

7:10

a whole other thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

7:12

We have to pay so many people off. I

7:15

know. So, what's

7:17

been in the paper? So

7:20

anyway, Dr. Janice, so

7:22

yes, the expectations are, expectations are

7:24

all off the charts because people

7:27

are watching porn and they think

7:29

that's real. And I would guess that

7:31

this is mostly a problem for young people.

7:33

That young people, long before

7:35

they've had sex for the first time,

7:37

they've watched stuff online and they think

7:39

they have to be an athlete. That

7:43

sex is this instant athletic

7:45

thing that lasts forever and

7:49

involves all these contortions and it's intimidating to

7:51

them, right? Well, not just for

7:53

young people. People who think that they

7:55

won't be able to sense by someone. Oh,

7:58

they think, you know, there's, there is. corn

8:00

with older people too. But there's, it's

8:02

just everyone has a notion who watches

8:06

a lot of corn that, you

8:08

know, first of all, a lot of times they're disappointed with

8:10

their partner. They don't, you know, people,

8:12

a lot of people don't look great with their clothes up.

8:15

So, especially been in

8:17

a relationship for a while and your

8:19

partner's body has changed. There's

8:21

a whole mindset that has to

8:24

go into how do you keep the

8:26

romance going when you both don't look

8:28

like you're 24 anymore. Right. And

8:30

that takes a little work, especially if you want

8:32

to stay, you know, with that

8:34

one partner and stay, you know, not

8:36

bring other partners into the relation, into

8:39

the, your sex play. Hello. So, yeah,

8:41

no, let's talk about that. Let's talk about bringing

8:43

other people in. Oh, what? Okay. Well,

8:46

listen, Dr. Janice brought it up, so I'm allowed

8:48

to follow that line of questioning. All right. I

8:50

think the court, does the court allow it? The

8:52

court allows it. Thank you. Okay. So,

8:55

Dr. Janice, bringing

8:57

someone else into the equation, that's a

9:00

mind-blower to me. I've, you know, never

9:02

thought about that. I would never do

9:04

that. It goes against

9:06

everything in my personal belief system.

9:09

But man, is it an intriguing

9:11

concept because I don't understand how someone brings that

9:13

up in the first place. How does someone say,

9:15

hey, I want you to

9:18

meet a pal of mine. His name's Oscar. You know, like, how do

9:20

they, how do they, how does that come up?

9:22

How do, how do couples get to that point? You

9:25

know, it really, it really needs

9:27

to be a conversation and not, hey,

9:30

look who's with me. Can we?

9:32

You know, I want to say,

9:34

the times I've tried it, I've

9:36

just shown up with someone. Oh

9:38

no. Yeah, my car broke down

9:40

on the 405 right near Sepulveda

9:42

and look who I met. But

9:44

does the person you bring know what

9:47

they're coming or is he? No idea. No

9:49

idea. They're new in America. Oh

9:51

no. Yeah. They're from Portugal. Welcome

9:53

to America. They're from Portugal. They

9:55

thought I was bringing them

9:59

to a hotel. It's all, look, I'm

10:01

not even above board about it, but

10:03

do you work at all with people

10:06

that are into bondage, sadomasochism,

10:08

all that kind of stuff? Well, I

10:11

train therapists to

10:13

work with people who do that. But

10:15

the thing is, I wanna tell you,

10:17

BDSM people, this whole bondage dominance issue

10:20

with whips and chains and a variety of

10:22

different key things, and on and on and

10:24

on, they talk about

10:26

it, they negotiate before they get into

10:29

sex play. They say, what

10:32

do you like? What's your safe word?

10:34

What, where can I touch you? Where

10:36

can't I touch you? They have conversations.

10:38

Whereas the average individual

10:40

who doesn't do that, doesn't have a conversation. So

10:42

you're nervous the entire time, I don't want them

10:45

to touch me here, but I don't know them

10:47

that well, I don't wanna tell them this. You

10:50

know, there's so much that goes in that

10:52

could be cleared up if you talked about

10:54

it. And that's one thing we could

10:56

learn from the BDSM community

10:58

is to talk about it before it

11:01

happens. You weren't talking about that kind of

11:03

stuff. I come from a

11:05

culture where none of this is discussed. You don't

11:07

talk about anything. You just get through life and

11:09

get to the grave as fast as you can.

11:11

No. And get

11:13

to rotten. Get to rotten. Get

11:16

to motoring. What,

11:19

are there special, when you're talking to

11:21

someone or instructing someone on how to

11:23

teach somebody, are there certain tools that

11:25

you use? Are they, did you ever

11:27

use any kind

11:29

of puppets? Puppets, props, are there things

11:31

like that that help? Sure,

11:34

well people, first of all, I'm

11:37

not against porn. I think

11:40

couples who want to watch porn together and

11:42

have a lot of fun and make that

11:44

part of the activity could

11:47

have a blast. As long

11:49

as they know that that's entertainment that they're

11:52

enjoying together, they can act it out together.

11:54

So there's a use for it actually, which

11:56

is a very funny, one

11:58

of my favorite porn things. that

12:00

I watched with my husband who will be mortified that

12:02

I'm saying this but it was this

12:05

corn from Czechoslovakia so they weren't

12:07

even speaking English it had very

12:09

bad subtitles who cares about that

12:11

but it was a guy and

12:13

he was telling his girlfriend that

12:15

they needed a crock pot and

12:18

this apparently this guy in a

12:20

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12:23

pot if he could sleep with

12:25

his girlfriend so she

12:27

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12:30

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12:32

meanwhile that guy starts chipping his

12:34

girlfriend and he's sitting there next

12:36

to the bed holding the crock

12:39

pot. Wait a minute this is the

12:41

plot of that Robert Redford Demi

12:43

Moore movie Indecent Proposal and that

12:45

was that was that was a

12:48

million dollars and the Czech

12:52

the Czechoslovakian equivalent

12:54

is a crock

12:56

pot so

12:59

Woody Harrelson would be in the corner hugging

13:02

a crock pot while

13:04

a Czech guy is doing it with

13:06

Demi Moore in Indecent

13:08

Proposal Czechoslovakia. You

13:11

know it's funny because I'm producing a

13:13

movie about a sex therapy topic a

13:15

very unique type of sex therapy I

13:17

would love to have the budget of

13:19

the crock pot I'm telling you that'll

13:22

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13:24

need to check out Czech porn we have to

13:26

you know

13:30

and specifically the subset of it Czech crock

13:32

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13:34

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13:36

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13:38

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13:40

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13:43

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13:45

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18:48

you used puppets, diagrams? Well,

18:51

yeah, all of the above. I mean,

18:53

there's a lot of people, a lot of

18:56

females, you know. In

18:59

my world, we call them, you know, vulva

19:02

and vagina possessors, owners,

19:05

who don't know what their body looks like from

19:07

the waist down because they never looked. So

19:10

we help them get to know who they are by

19:13

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19:15

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19:18

toys, vibrators, lots

19:21

of things because the bedroom should be fun. And

19:24

a lot of times it turns into a

19:26

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19:29

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19:31

accusations. Oh, you got it. Oh,

19:34

no, I might thank you much. No one's

19:36

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19:39

chiming in. We

19:42

brought a puppet into our bedroom. It was a ventriloquist dump.

19:44

Oh, no. And

19:46

it got out of control fast. What did you do with it? His

19:48

name was Mr. Chuckles. Oh, no. He

19:50

was out of control. He was a freak. Who

19:52

was controlling Mr. Chuckles? You

19:56

know, I thought I was, and then Mr. Chuckles

19:58

just took over. And

20:00

then it ended up, I was out at the pool house by myself.

20:03

Awwww. Yeah, I lived there for three months. Mr.

20:06

Chuckles just took over. Mr.

20:08

Chuckles brought a crackpot. Yeah. Your

20:11

kids started calling him dad. Yeah, exactly. I

20:13

know Mr. Chuckles is great. Mr.

20:17

Chuckles just drove

20:20

me to my college interview. Listen,

20:23

it happens. We have to also tell some people

20:26

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20:28

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20:32

And I. Listen,

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20:37

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20:39

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20:44

man and I have to just cut to

20:46

the chase. I demand to know, how do

20:48

you use a gingerbread man? I demand to

20:50

know. You demand to know. No,

20:52

because talk about communication. If

20:54

your people can't communicate what their needs

20:56

and wants are, what you can

20:59

have them do is take the outline of

21:01

a gingerbread person, you know, remember those. And

21:05

one partner has a sheet,

21:07

the other one has a sheet, and they each color

21:09

it in wherever they

21:11

color green, their partner

21:13

can touch them without asking. Go for

21:16

it. Where they color

21:18

yellow, please ask. I

21:20

might say yes. I might say no. And

21:22

red is absolutely don't touch me. And

21:24

that way, if you know that day,

21:27

for example, you actually don't want your

21:29

feet touched. They're very sensitive, your techwish

21:31

that distracts you. You don't

21:33

have to sit there and kind of tense up, oh

21:36

my gosh, you know, this person's got to touch my

21:38

feet, don't touch my feet. You know,

21:40

you can relax because it's all agreed upon with

21:42

the picture. Right. Then

21:44

it turns out your lover is colorblind. Oh, no.

21:48

Then you have another issue. So

21:51

it's not a gingerbread cookie. It's the

21:53

outline of a gingerbread man. So you're upset about it not

21:56

being a cookie. I just was hoping it would be a

21:58

cookie. Oh, okay. But

22:00

it could. Be a cookie. they could do the colors

22:02

and they can eat the cookie. Your and the

22:04

browns and could be different colors and so

22:07

this is real. Oh you know has been

22:09

a cookie? Yeah definitely. To do that without

22:11

a doubt, And. It's it's all for worried.

22:13

Touching has are different color for probing.

22:15

For probing, you realize. Well as

22:17

such as if you know up and

22:19

go inside than you can like put

22:21

a note you know read inside just.

22:23

I would post its on my body

22:25

supposed yeah I have a poster that

22:27

I did they served by the way

22:29

posts it's or grade give like why

22:31

use a cookie or anything when you

22:33

can just put messages on your actual

22:35

bodies that I do not answer edited

22:37

out the yeah yeah through not answer

22:39

no touching my that they were written

22:42

all over he realizes that stay off

22:44

the beauty of Libel sign down there

22:46

like a say off the grass. And

22:49

I may have gone too far out. Rbs:

22:51

Hey please! Tweet

22:55

about me or that affect us are

22:57

a little squatting dogs as ago the

22:59

monsters and over it. Is

23:02

my are said. That

23:05

agenda as I think. nothing sexier than

23:08

good laughs and comedy. Thing:

23:12

you got the cookie you've got. The.

23:15

Poor If you can make fun of

23:17

it and enjoy together. That's dressing

23:19

up as find a role. Players

23:21

find the other thing to understand

23:23

the expectations. In. Several.

23:26

Peace. Owners man tents

23:29

and function differently. In

23:31

the course of the central process

23:33

than women do. Men: Are

23:36

very much focused on getting the touchdowns

23:38

the should be the our goals and

23:40

the kind of claim to and the

23:42

orgasm in and cigarette in my eyes

23:44

and we used to believe that women

23:46

were like that too. but we now

23:48

but understand that women. Enter into

23:51

it in more of a circle. And

23:54

to the circle they could

23:56

for example answers sexual activity.

23:59

Or without the. Because

24:01

they want current poor. Because they want

24:04

to. Make the comfort

24:06

their partner and give. That person

24:08

the gift of having sexual

24:10

expression. But what happens with

24:12

women? As a lot of times

24:14

once they get involved. They. Do

24:17

get turned down whereas. The guy gets to

24:19

then goes a woman might not be turned

24:21

down and started to get turned on. Or.

24:24

She may get distracted. Can have a woman

24:26

has what we call breaks and accelerators you

24:29

might be in the middle of sucks at

24:31

all the fun you remember? you forgot to

24:33

pack lunches for the kids tomorrow and

24:35

I'll send you lose interest. I mean it's

24:37

it's a real different thing for the typical

24:40

female. But. I should have a

24:42

young man. are men are about to, You know.

24:45

Was. It Larry the cable guy says

24:47

get er done You know it's like

24:50

as I sat at work at a

24:52

very focused on we're going to do

24:54

this and it's gonna happen and then

24:56

I'm You know there's gonna be an

24:58

orgasm and you know it's a very

25:01

intense forty seconds and from start to

25:03

finish up by. Here's. A But here's the

25:05

thing. Is if

25:07

the theme of features the same

25:09

way suit the women as an

25:11

orgasm. Men tend to feel that

25:14

it was a failed activity, right?

25:16

So that's where you get the

25:18

women lying about orgasm. Going. Well I

25:20

am not a during my single years many

25:22

times it would and with woman saying that

25:24

was assailed. Your

25:26

activities and. Now I want to say that

25:29

they what that was assailed actively lie. That I

25:31

heard of that phrase many scientists is

25:33

that it was a failed activity along

25:36

like a robot A but I don't

25:38

know and trust him. I dollars of

25:40

sailboat assess assess. Yeah so now I

25:42

was just of course a. Woman: Can

25:45

have a good time. Even if she

25:47

doesn't orgasm she might have a really

25:49

enjoy being together. Be really enjoyed the

25:51

conversation, the laugh in the title in

25:53

the attention and send out a good

25:55

time. I didn't organism but. I.

25:58

Wouldn't mind. Doing. This again. I

26:01

wouldn't mind doing nothing to go out

26:03

and are. You

26:06

know how you are married forty two

26:08

years in a while. I wouldn't mind

26:11

doing this again. So yeah, that's very

26:13

nice Now I think you're It's refreshing

26:15

to talk to you. You know people

26:18

have some nice know people myself included.

26:20

You know we're this so much serve.

26:23

People. Get so hung up on it and

26:25

I'm yeah. it's very nice. very nice to

26:27

talk to someone who to says hey, we're

26:29

human, This is what's happening. I'm.

26:32

You know I like. It. Is. Good said. You

26:35

were human and this is what's

26:37

happening. Nine And and I am

26:39

I not. Every time you hear

26:41

you your words like the diner

26:43

vulva, You know, uterus? Or Blake for

26:45

leave you with things are Italian card. Users

26:48

survey I go. Little I

26:50

get all I know was you know what?

26:53

but also another women want guys going around

26:55

you know, throw in those terms about. Their

26:58

their clinical term, there's nothing

27:00

wrong with that. They're very

27:02

ooo. None at all Know I was

27:04

asked you you are married to the

27:06

have to tax tax cuts easy on

27:08

his i'm wrong kind of his own

27:10

anyway. ah that just because as in

27:13

Tom. whenever I. Have

27:15

you been married yet? Ah, both of very

27:17

attractive young couple. Maybe you have things that

27:19

you'd like to talk about right now. With.

27:22

With Doctor Janice I I mean it's

27:24

more time management This is a specific

27:26

about that he has. she has, she

27:28

has twin yes and I'll tell you

27:31

I love my rise to and I

27:33

love these kids on their godfather. But

27:35

there are there monsters sutra, lunar and

27:37

a father marauding or after twat their

27:39

toddlers. None of their i am saying

27:41

that with great affection. Okay, I'm a

27:43

surfer. They're always in the background when

27:45

I'm assuming the sona destroying things with

27:47

hammers. otherwise be able to manners Rather

27:50

hilarious. I love your kids are but

27:52

I'm. Yeah, we think time management would

27:54

be the problem is. how would I ever

27:56

either. Yeah, so so that's another

27:58

misconception is people think. Syracuse

28:00

to be spontaneous because that's what they see.

28:02

It is wonderful porn movies and that's what

28:05

they believe is the ideal and the really

28:07

the best sex is planned on. You know

28:09

when the kids are gonna be asleep or

28:11

they're sleeping over some rough or you and

28:14

your husband goal and had denied out at

28:16

a hotel. Gas when you got me

28:18

like it better be like me that

28:20

you gotta have a plan on not

28:22

I'm not. You have to have the

28:24

English and a America does and the

28:26

friends would bother of and you all

28:28

have to take the beats you know

28:30

and worry that gonna be loss of

28:32

life especially the first couple of ways

28:34

was gonna take the ground. You've got

28:36

a whole the ground got to get

28:38

into hedgerow come country of Sussex we've

28:41

gotta make sure that I you know

28:43

eventually you get down into the maiden

28:45

countryside of of friends. You

28:47

know, before those and you've gotta make sure that

28:49

you do it before the Luftwaffe of the news.

28:51

There's a very are a number of a clip

28:53

of what? Yeah, This is exactly yeah. Exactly what

28:55

I'm always yelling at my wife. It's like. D

28:57

Day Yeah yes, some

28:59

sexy talk just as

29:01

good. So sassy! Cries. Every

29:03

day for two hours. Yeah, I don't blame her.

29:06

Arm Dungeness I'm a job question for me

29:08

is or way I can help You do

29:10

have. A question of a question

29:12

for everybody. Eminently day that so

29:14

is it was I guess today.

29:17

Yeah, hotel. I'm. Teaching actually

29:19

tomorrow two of them for for

29:22

the surface similar be censored This

29:24

if I invited you. Ah

29:26

so an hour. And more

29:28

thrilling maps and sat here all day

29:31

then to come to class tomorrow. To

29:34

speak to my sex therapy. Students.

29:36

What would you teach them? About

29:39

this and I love that I don't have to get involved. You guys

29:41

go ahead. sort of. What would you said? A five? I

29:43

mean, and I know we're not. I

29:46

and sort of the me to so you. Have

29:48

just before she was married a. Sauna

29:52

was quite the Bruins adventurous how by

29:54

Mike the. Only

29:56

way you're on a little a little

29:58

it out on a soft that. No

30:05

real. America that porn and sets

30:07

the your proof warrant. There is a

30:09

porn video I found I talked about

30:11

it on this before it's it's a

30:13

system for peace and so there's all

30:15

these like fun things so I would

30:17

If I was a guest lecture I

30:20

would come in and I would talk

30:22

about like you know pod locking and

30:24

you know the sistine things Even though

30:26

I'm not an expert on those I'm

30:28

definitely not. But also you know like

30:30

those acts of people do let's say

30:32

you know the Angry Pirate and the

30:34

Cleveland steamers in South. Lake. I

30:36

was to be a guest lecture on know the

30:38

even know I'm not well versed in that. I

30:41

apologize for calling her an

30:43

adventurous in any way. You

30:45

just rattled off Cleveland Steamer

30:47

Popeye presented as. Api

30:50

three bags Superman Secret! I

30:52

mean. Even know what? Alicia

30:54

I don't know cause I go you go

30:56

out every any that. I'm. Really, really

30:59

nervous. I know you're You're like buttoned

31:01

up because you're Catholic, but I'm from

31:03

immigrant parents. This is very intense for

31:05

me. The top of this. So anyway,

31:07

I would like to do it. Urban

31:09

Dictionary deep dive if I was your

31:11

guess lanka? David Us or I was,

31:13

I would absolutely like Ten David Hop American

31:15

Way to rest both. A music video we

31:18

watched oh. I forgot the name of it has

31:20

the like that. Would be a fun one to sell

31:22

everyone. It would be. I wish we could figure

31:24

it out. And music. It was like number three.

31:26

Yeah, I was on. Like. Vultures popped and music

31:29

videos of the year of from like this

31:31

is but an Idling really makes a very

31:33

make a hong in the background he i

31:35

am they look it up the of your

31:37

phone oh man up someplace. Connie you talking

31:39

about restrictive background. They happened to be

31:41

an orthodox Jewish woman. Throw

31:44

that one and you know why. Because

31:46

if there is a lot of similarities

31:48

are taught to House of Air, Defense

31:50

of Air Movement will do it. So

31:52

you can tell you some of my

31:55

pet cats intimate conversations with Dr. Jekyll.

31:57

I have no, I believe there are

31:59

many. Similarities between the orthodox Jewish

32:01

community and are very strict temple art. An

32:03

Irish can I was isn't know you Oh

32:06

without a doubt the I know how are

32:08

you want to share? I was trying to

32:10

make a nice interesting cause. I'm

32:14

sorry I'm sorry So know when I

32:16

imply that you you know near you

32:18

know was an adventurous or and had

32:20

some adventures I that was totally out

32:22

of line and then you went into

32:24

naming your favorite i think videos. Captain

32:28

Mcnulty is Skylark. Funny.

32:30

Idea, I do I, but I don't care for

32:32

you and I've never done any of those things

32:34

I can say that like I, you know what

32:36

I said. Adventurous. I meant like

32:38

you. You read widely like a

32:40

scholar. okay, but your taste in

32:43

your active boy. Logo Those of us have

32:45

a little of the up a little blue. Atlanta he

32:47

died. I find them how. The Mayor

32:49

by Brendan Mcclain. Yes, that's that's and

32:52

it's something you're recommending. How Severe By

32:54

Brennan Mcclain? What? Listen us some read

32:56

fodder. For. Your talk tomorrow with your

32:58

very own steal one at the topic

33:01

for ten minutes. Another one I want

33:03

to teach a looks. Ah well I

33:05

I was so happy that I wasn't

33:07

included. I know that I'm I'm putting

33:09

you on the smile. Really excited to

33:11

not have to say anything. ah I

33:13

think I would sort of talk about

33:15

how erotic it can be just to

33:17

keep your clothes on. The must. Be

33:21

a know that would send me and said have

33:23

rooms and each many different book. I think that

33:25

is the height of eroticism and I think people.

33:27

Taking this whole nudity thing too

33:29

far, nudity just leads to trouble.

33:32

I say no Nudity. That's.

33:34

My mom, trunk and unknowing

33:36

suspects had the actually. When

33:40

oh it. And I'm close right

33:42

now and I'm in a high

33:45

status erotic fervor. So. Well

33:48

as. And a film say

33:50

oh no I am now

33:52

is a sesame nothing's. Happening

33:54

saying I am with my Mind he

33:57

began as David. With that brings to

33:59

mind this. Got

34:01

more and Janice mind.

34:03

So in other. Know

34:08

what? At one of my. Mentors,

34:10

Sex Therapist. She was a pastor's wife

34:13

and became a surrogate partner in what

34:15

that is. A pastor? There

34:17

were any came a surrogate partner. Okay, go

34:19

ahead see someone who is not your partner.

34:22

There's. The. Sex Therapist as

34:24

a to therapy. We knew

34:26

someone who's that a four year old

34:28

virgin carefully to even be knew someone.

34:30

Never choose seven and spectrum someone was

34:33

a lot of trauma. They can't just

34:35

go out and use your advice and

34:37

go date. They're. Terrified. so

34:39

what you do we should get a certain

34:41

the partner and as someone who practice let

34:43

them. Oh and happy we had a

34:45

person to stay silent. Don't have only our

34:48

faces, I don't have the. Sarah.

34:51

I've asked you know the tattoo now

34:53

but I. I I have five

34:55

hundred. Is that still have sex with this

34:57

person? They will have serious. Doubts it's

35:00

supervise. The whole process is

35:02

under the supervision of. The

35:04

therapist therapist meets we. Do

35:06

time to. Be

35:09

a few seasons. What

35:13

happens next where they do. To

35:15

next and their next session and

35:17

are they didn't might include and

35:19

to parse. Yeah but even

35:21

includes in ours is it

35:23

Play Goal. A

35:26

while for sides legal action business there. I

35:28

have a. Crowd that's a good question that has

35:30

identified as I am a serious. It's

35:33

it's. consider that because it's

35:35

with consenting adults. And.

35:39

It's for the purpose. Reputedly

35:42

to Israel is one country

35:44

that actually taste for the

35:46

therapy. On my Xinhua

35:48

someone's. I'm sick, injured, lost a

35:50

limb served as turned to themselves.

35:52

can connect with other people anymore.

35:54

Their self esteem is in the

35:56

basement. And you can get them with a

35:59

certain. Carnival. Bring them back

36:01

out. Learn how to use their body when

36:03

smile or even have some change in their genders.

36:05

and they don't really understand their body and are

36:07

not ready to go out and day because they

36:09

don't really know what to do. You.

36:12

Can work on a vaseline. It's like

36:14

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36:16

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36:18

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