We're joined by Michael Hobbes, podcasting brother and journalist for the Huffington Post, for a wide ranging episode centred on his recent article 'S**thole' Countries Have Handled The Coronavirus Better Than The United States. Covered: - Why are places like Vietnam objectively handling the Corona better than the US and UK?- Why do people get so racist when reminded about it?- What is it about modern authoritarians that makes them so bad at public health crises?

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