Had the pleasure to speak with Shawn and Roger about their meditation experiences, thoughts about psychedelics and the models they use to map spiritual progress.
Their website: https://meditative.dev/web/
Website: http://www.lauritzm.com/
Donations: https://www.paypal.me/lauritzmq
00:00:00 - Intro
00:05:09 - How they got started with meditation
00:09:00 - What's a good vision for the path?
00:14:45 - Their current practices
00:20:00 - What makes the selfless perspective so pleasant
00:24:40 - How the sense of self is constructed
00:31:45 - Models of the path
00:35:30 - The role of emotions and joy in meditation
00:42:30 - Retreats vs. everyday practice
00:50:55 - Low doses of psychedelics and practice
01:04:30 - Projects Shawn and Roger are currently working on
01:19:08 - Jhana practice
01:26:16 - Final thoughts, links and resources
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