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0:00

Politics without the soap

0:02

opera with unfiltered constitutional

0:04

conservative truth

0:06

The conservative review with Daniel Burns

0:09

And welcome back fellow American patriots

0:11

and Minamin standing at the ready To

0:14

fight for our life liberty and property

0:16

and everything that matters But

0:19

most importantly the truth the

0:21

whole truth and nothing but the truth

0:24

so help us God here for

0:26

a brand new week July 17th it is Monday and

0:29

I

0:30

Did not want to do today's show there are

0:33

so much to cover. We've covered

0:35

over the last couple of weeks everything from budget

0:38

to legislation and inflation

0:41

economy

0:42

obviously medical freedom obviously

0:44

immigration and the border

0:47

the tranny stuff everything that matters and

0:50

we're gonna continue doing that and

0:52

Frankly, you know Friday's show really

0:55

was was terrific if you haven't heard it we

0:57

discussed With dr. Paul

0:59

Merrick alternative cancer treatments

1:01

the truth about cancer Increasingly

1:03

I might get into things like that because

1:06

politics has become so insufferable But

1:08

today we will do in a political show raw

1:11

politics more than policy

1:14

because

1:15

there's a lot of falsehood going going

1:17

around a couple months ago

1:20

clearly a dark switch

1:23

has been flipped in

1:24

people who call themselves based

1:27

conservative media Right-leaning

1:29

media America first media. Whatever

1:31

name you want to use. It's all repackaged

1:34

as the same Failure we've been

1:36

dealing with since Reagan the

1:39

Bush's Dole McCain

1:41

Romney and then Trump it's all the same

1:43

thing you put a little bit more flourish on it

1:46

but it's the same thing

1:48

and my concern here has

1:50

nothing to do with DeSantis I

1:53

Couldn't care less. He's been around for a couple

1:55

months as a presidential candidate. It's

1:58

not him in a vacuum. It's not even the

2:00

concern about Trump being a distraction

2:03

and a subversive force and idol-worshiping

2:06

force that gets our people to support

2:09

bad things that we wouldn't otherwise support. I mean

2:12

that is a big part of it but it's even worse than

2:14

that.

2:14

It's even if tomorrow, I

2:17

want to make this clear, the Trump versus the

2:19

Santa thing is bringing this out to

2:21

the forefront,

2:23

but if the two of them would walk off

2:25

into the sunset tomorrow,

2:28

okay, they'd walk off and

2:30

you never hear from either of them again. We

2:33

would have this same problem

2:36

because if you get the analogy, it's

2:39

turtles all the way down or

2:41

maybe aptly put, it's Kerry lakes

2:44

all the way down, it's grift all

2:46

the way down, there will be more after that

2:49

because the entire movement

2:51

that's called the

2:53

conservative ink, MAGA ink, whatever new

2:56

flavor you make it, it is built

2:58

on a lie. It

3:01

is built on a lack of regard

3:03

for results and the very

3:06

values they claim to espouse.

3:08

There's nothing different about today's America

3:11

First MAGA turning, whatever

3:13

they call that convention they held in Florida

3:16

over the weekend, toilet paper USA. It's

3:19

the same thing as CPAC, just they'll

3:21

have today's rhetoric that

3:24

sounds more, you know, hardcore relative

3:27

to the issues we face than five years

3:29

ago at CPAC, but it's the same

3:31

idea that when it comes to the issues

3:34

that matter, in the way they matter, at the time

3:36

they matter, they don't care, they're

3:38

either indifferent or downright on the other side.

3:41

Those who are actually working towards the primaries

3:43

and the legislation that makes a difference, they're scoffed

3:46

and ignored or sometimes opposed

3:50

and it's all about groupiness, who's cool,

3:52

if you're in with the cool kids, then it's

3:54

all conservative, it's all great, even if

3:56

it's antithetical to it. Homosexuality,

3:59

philandering, you. You name it, it's all good. Andrew

4:01

Tate is now the big hero. And

4:04

conversely, you could do everything

4:06

you espoused and said you wanted, and

4:09

now you're a dirtbag. That's the problem.

4:12

And I know it's a little bit dark, but we

4:14

need a little bit of Jeremiah here. And

4:17

that's what I'm gonna start out with. We're

4:20

in a Jeremiah chapter two moment.

4:22

And I'm just gonna kind of skip

4:25

around

4:26

and read from different passages

4:30

to introduce

4:31

kind of an overall look at

4:34

what we saw

4:35

from Tucker

4:36

and Iowa Summit, the

4:39

Iowa Family Leaders Summit with the candidates

4:41

forum,

4:42

the toilet paper USA thing, and

4:45

just the general,

4:47

almost near unanimous commentariat.

4:51

Some people call themselves

4:54

right leaning, and they're nothing more than just

4:56

Republicans. That's what it is. Even

4:58

the ones that say, oh, the Republican Party is terrible. And

5:01

you know what? It's the ones that say what

5:03

I say. They say what we say.

5:05

We're gonna die. They're doing this. It's

5:07

terrible. The government's like a bunch of Nazis. It

5:10

is. And then conservative Inc is a

5:12

failure. The Republican Party is a failure and we're sick

5:14

of them. This is the new right. It's

5:16

those people who are the worst. Because

5:19

they claim to be on the side of God

5:22

and strive for that and strive for the

5:24

truth. And they're the ones that

5:26

are subverting it the most. You

5:29

know, I just want to say before we get into Jeremiah,

5:31

I'm doing like a intro of the intro of

5:33

the intro and I apologize because

5:36

there's too much to say.

5:38

But everyone's like, ha ha ha, Tucker

5:40

slaughtered Mike Pence. And I'm like, first

5:43

of all, there was nothing to slaughter. I mean,

5:46

everyone knew he stood for that.

5:48

And everyone knew where Mike Pence stood

5:51

on those issues before. They know now he

5:53

had zero chance of getting anywhere before and he

5:55

has zero chance of getting anywhere now. And

5:59

he's not gonna get any support.

6:02

But there's something interesting, two points I want to

6:04

make, while Mike Pence

6:06

will never go anywhere in a presidential election.

6:09

The supermajority, no

6:12

strike that, near unanimity

6:14

of opinion among GOP

6:16

statewide elected officials.

6:21

From Mitch McConnell to Kevin McCarthy

6:23

to every senator, to almost every senator,

6:26

minus six or seven or so,

6:29

almost every governor, really everyone I believe except

6:31

for DeSantis has this view on Ukraine.

6:34

Like

6:36

we talked about on Friday, about 70, 75 percent

6:39

of House members, they

6:41

have Mike

6:43

Pence's view and that is not going

6:45

to change. And there's a reason it's not,

6:48

because of the subversion of the very people

6:50

who say they're against that. But

6:53

there's something stronger.

6:55

I actually admire Mike

6:58

Pence in a funny way.

7:00

The same way, and I said this at the time about Jeb

7:02

Bush too. They don't pander,

7:05

they don't lie, they

7:07

don't bear false witness.

7:09

They will say openly, I don't

7:12

give a darn about the forgotten American

7:14

and I care about Ukraine more. They are very

7:17

open about that. And you

7:20

know, it says in Zachariah you

7:22

should love

7:23

truth and peace.

7:25

Truth is placed there before

7:28

peace because you can't have peace until

7:30

you have truth.

7:32

And we could have peace and come to

7:34

a resolution. If the entire

7:36

subversion was people like Mike Pence,

7:39

we could come to a resolution and move on

7:41

because they're honest. And

7:44

they're honest and they don't try to hide from it

7:46

and to their credit, and you know, 95% of

7:49

Republican voters

7:51

will not buy into that.

7:53

But the worst are the people

7:56

that claim to be so, you

7:59

know,

7:59

appalled by that view on that

8:02

issue and the ten other important issues and We're

8:06

sick of these weenie republicans and

8:08

we want to fight and ba ba ba

8:10

ba and we're sick of the grooming

8:13

but then we're fine with Bruce Jenner

8:15

those

8:16

people that claim to know

8:18

God and Spitting

8:21

his face.

8:22

They are the worst

8:24

and that's what Jeremiah 2 is all

8:26

about So says the Lord

8:30

What wrong did your forefathers find in

8:33

me that they distance themselves from me

8:35

and they went after futility and themselves

8:38

became feudal

8:40

boy. Is that a

8:41

description of

8:43

this fake manga Inc the

8:46

last number of years They

8:49

didn't say where is the Lord who brought us

8:51

up from the land of Egypt let us through the desert Land

8:54

of the plains and pits and the land of

8:56

waste and darkness where no man passed

9:01

The priest did not say where is the Lord and

9:04

those who hold on to the Torah

9:06

did not know me and

9:08

The rulers rebelled against me those

9:10

who held on to it

9:12

They grant I am the I

9:14

am America first. I am for you.

9:16

I am the one I am your revenge We

9:20

are the new Beast

9:23

Awakened

9:25

right wing

9:28

They rebelled against me more than anyone

9:30

else and

9:32

the prophets prophesied by bail

9:34

and

9:35

Followed what does not avail and

9:38

God says therefore I will contend with you

9:44

And there's an interesting part of going

9:47

on to the rebuke Verse

9:52

Does a nation exchange a God although they are

9:54

not gods

9:55

yet my nation exchanged their glory for

9:58

what does not avail and again And

10:00

what that means in my tradition,

10:02

these and their similar verses throughout the Bible

10:04

in several places,

10:06

that God's saying, you're the chosen

10:09

people. You know me, you see me, you

10:11

know the truth. Why

10:14

can't you believe in me with

10:17

as much

10:18

intrepidness and purity

10:22

as the pagans? Because that's what you had. You had

10:24

the Jews and the pagans. The

10:26

pagans believe in their God. Do

10:30

they, and it's not like they swap

10:32

their, you know, the different gods swap this one for another one.

10:35

No, they held on to their tradition.

10:37

And that's where we are. I

10:40

love the Democrats. They don't budge.

10:43

Everything they do comports

10:47

with what they want, with their

10:49

outcomes. And likewise for Mitch

10:51

McConnell and Mike Pence and these type of guys, they're

10:54

not subversive. They're actually pretty open about

10:56

what they believe in. There's a couple of

10:58

issues maybe they disagree with the Democrats on. Other

11:01

than that, it's just servicing their donors and their

11:03

industries and everything they do is consistent

11:05

with that. The worst

11:07

are those who claim to reject that.

11:10

But then do it, embrace

11:13

the worst behaviors, values,

11:16

and outcomes of the left.

11:19

And then repackage it as if it's God's

11:21

word.

11:23

Those are the worst people.

11:25

There's a lot of people who make fun out of

11:28

John Federman.

11:29

Oh, he's a vegetable. Look at him. Look

11:32

at what

11:33

he's saying. And

11:34

you know,

11:35

you listen to Trump's interviews

11:38

and they literally sound like John Federman. Except

11:40

there's one difference. There's

11:42

one difference.

11:44

As much as we make fun out of Federman,

11:48

as much as he could barely walk

11:50

and think and move,

11:52

has he ever one time

11:55

mistakenly scored

11:57

points for the other team, carried the ball

11:59

in the wrong end zone. Has he ever raised

12:02

his hand at the Senate well and

12:05

voted in a way contrary to

12:07

his stated beliefs and

12:09

the people

12:10

he claims to represent?

12:12

Never. And it never will happen. Because

12:15

you know whether it's him or he has a staff

12:17

they make sure he is oriented.

12:19

It's not like he is so crazy at some

12:21

point he'll vote the wrong way, vote for a conservative

12:24

thing or against a liberal think no.

12:27

And despite his crazy rhetoric 90%

12:29

of the time it's gibberish 10%

12:32

it kind of hints to

12:34

some sort of liberal view but he

12:37

never accidentally espouses a conservative

12:40

view. And I find that

12:42

something amazing. John

12:46

Fetterman is more lucid

12:48

and committed to

12:51

his stated idolatry than

12:55

our most lucid and smartest

12:58

most aggressive articulate conservative

13:01

media figure adheres

13:04

to his stated

13:06

ideology. It's

13:09

a Jeremiah 2 moment.

13:11

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13:13

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14:26

God continues. Oh,

14:28

heavens be astonished about this and storm.

14:32

Become very desolate, says the Lord, for

14:34

my people have committed two evils. They

14:36

have forsaken me, the spring of living water

14:38

is to dig for themselves cisterns, broken

14:41

cisterns that do not hold water.

14:43

And that's what

14:45

it is. You just put yourself into things

14:47

that prima facie

14:49

are failing. Show me the results. Where

14:52

are we better off on a single issue?

14:59

And verse 19,

15:01

your evil will chastise you and

15:05

your backslidings will reprove you.

15:10

And you shall know and see that your forsaking the Lord

15:13

your God is evil and bitter. And

15:16

fear of me was not upon you, says the Lord, God

15:18

of hosts.

15:23

How do you say I have

15:24

not been defiled?

15:26

I have not gone after the bale.

15:30

See your way in the valley, know what

15:32

you have done,

15:34

like a swift young camel clinging

15:36

to our ways.

15:42

And folks, just one more point

15:45

I wanna start with. Verse 27,

15:50

they say to the wood, you are my father

15:52

and to the stone, you bore us.

15:55

Met the thwomp, for

15:58

they turned to me, their nape and neck.

15:59

not their face. And at the time of their

16:02

misfortune, they say, arise and save

16:04

us.

16:05

Now where are your gods that you

16:07

have made for yourself? Let them get

16:09

up if they will save you at the time

16:11

of your misfortune. For as many

16:13

as your cities were your gods, O Judea.

16:18

And I could pretty much end there.

16:21

And you know what I'm talking about. But I'll get

16:23

into the specifics.

16:25

Again, I want to make it clear. I

16:27

don't care if you're like,

16:30

you're in conservative media like, oh my gosh, this

16:33

is where it's at. Everyone's been bought off.

16:35

I'm scared. Oh my gosh, I don't want

16:37

to I want to be part of the group.

16:39

And I'm gonna I'm gonna endorse Trump. I

16:42

don't care. That

16:44

is so small

16:47

of a factor in the scheme of things. As

16:50

I've said so many times.

16:53

If we had a movement

16:56

working every second

16:59

on the down the ballot primaries, particularly

17:02

on the governors

17:03

and the state legislative sessions, and

17:06

Congress and the McCarthy fight and all that

17:08

stuff.

17:10

It wouldn't even matter.

17:11

You want to support Trump, he supports the Sanders.

17:14

This guy wants to support the the new

17:17

Rama Swamp guy that came out of nowhere,

17:20

very strategically.

17:22

Whatever it doesn't matter if

17:24

we're legitimate and honest to each other

17:26

about what we believe and are consistent

17:29

in that.

17:30

In fact, many of us were hoping

17:32

and thought

17:34

that great, this is the time that we get

17:37

attention everyone is vying for our vote.

17:39

So everyone's gonna run to the right and you know,

17:41

we're in good shape. Let the best man

17:43

win.

17:46

But that only presupposes

17:50

that we believe in something and they're gonna pander

17:52

to those beliefs. But what

17:54

if we or at least the people with the loudest

17:56

voices perceived as representing

17:59

our side in this country?

17:59

country

18:01

don't believe in anything. Other

18:04

than groupiness, click servitism

18:06

with a CK and a QU,

18:08

a

18:09

click,

18:10

the groupiness, and just, I

18:12

want

18:13

my career,

18:14

I don't care about outcomes. Well

18:16

then that's a different story.

18:18

Then you get the primary we have now, where

18:21

there is no truth, nothing

18:23

matters.

18:25

You could have a man that promotes Disney,

18:28

dumps on the boycott of Bud Light, dumps

18:31

on the heartbeat bill even in a red state,

18:33

promotes Bruce Jenner, the original

18:36

groomer, argues against

18:38

bathroom bills. Even

18:42

on the issues he's good like we saw with Ukraine with

18:44

Maria Bartiromo yesterday, all over

18:46

the place sounds retarded. Literally

18:52

gets up there and says the vaccine

18:54

saved millions of lives at

18:56

a time when that's such a big issue and

19:00

it is all good. Doesn't

19:03

draw even the gentlest and mildest

19:06

rebuke or at least the reaffirmation

19:08

from these people, well look, to be clear

19:10

I don't agree with that, we need to fight it, but you know I still

19:12

like Trump for whatever reason. I don't care,

19:14

I'd be fine with that. But

19:18

it's this full lockdown, look I

19:20

expected

19:22

when DeSantis announced he'd run I expected

19:24

guys to sit in the background like be like

19:27

oh they're both good like not wanting

19:29

to take a side even though it's very clear. And

19:33

obviously the real like the more decrepit

19:36

half would side with Trump, but

19:38

what I did not expect

19:40

is that it's not just a decrepit but all

19:43

of them and to this degree that

19:45

everything this man does, no

19:47

matter how egregious on policy, demeanor,

19:50

behavior, bearing false witness, associations,

19:54

it is all good. You could

19:57

duck out of the debates

19:58

and it is all... good

20:01

things you wouldn't tolerate for anyone else it

20:03

is all good and then

20:06

conversely the man

20:09

that there is no one probably in

20:11

a century who has done that degree

20:14

in a state and I don't care

20:17

me you know you want to say that maybe should wait to 2028 I'm

20:19

not so into him I'd still rather

20:21

Trump I'm fine with that I don't

20:23

care

20:26

but what we all agreed upon until a

20:28

few months ago these are stated

20:30

beliefs is that that was the paradigm

20:33

that we need every other governor to be held up

20:35

to so we actually get get stuff

20:37

done

20:39

now he is trash

20:42

he is may as well be Bob Dole

20:45

that my friends is a problem

20:48

not just because of the lies

20:51

you're telling about Trump and DeSantis but

20:53

what that portends

20:55

going forward

20:56

even if the two of them

20:59

cease to exist

21:02

so let's let's go through some of this

21:05

let's start with Tucker

21:07

and the reason Tucker is so important is because

21:09

he's being touted as

21:12

let's face it he is being

21:15

groomed to be the heir of

21:17

Trump now whether that means he might they

21:19

will one day might run for president or not

21:21

I'm not necessarily saying that that's true

21:24

but whether he does or not that's immaterial that

21:26

he is going to be the undisputed kind

21:29

of maybe rush limbot is hey day but maybe

21:31

even more

21:33

that he is go whatever he says

21:36

is like the gold standard of what we

21:38

should believe

21:39

and care about what he cares about

21:42

is what we should care about what he doesn't care about

21:44

is that a sight out of mind okay

21:47

and it's already like that but that's that's clearly

21:49

what's happening so

21:51

this man's behavior needs to be

21:53

vetted and scrutinized if he

21:55

is going to be what represents us

21:59

and

22:01

The behavior that took place,

22:05

you know, I was warning you last week,

22:07

I was starting to get the feeling like there's something

22:09

not right with him. I noticed a pattern

22:12

of things. And by the

22:14

way, mind you, we had, there's endless texts

22:17

and quotes that are now because of the Dominion

22:19

lawsuits that Tucker

22:22

saying that Trump is

22:24

autistic, he's retarded, he doesn't

22:26

know anything, he's a demonic force, he's a dark

22:28

force. Everything

22:31

you and I know to be true, he

22:33

knew and espoused privately

22:35

and knows to this day.

22:38

And

22:40

yet,

22:42

what he has orchestrated is a clear

22:44

pattern of appalling

22:46

behavior that taken together is designed

22:49

to perfectly screw DeSantis,

22:52

perfectly elevate Trump, meaning the

22:55

other candidates that are non-Trump

22:57

and DeSantis, it's very strategic who

22:59

he gives a hard time, who he does it in a way

23:02

that

23:05

will get the outcome that is the most

23:07

beneficial to his career. He

23:09

wants to make sure, see this thing, he

23:11

wants to support Trump despite

23:13

everything he knows because he thinks

23:16

he's reading the tea leaves and in his mind,

23:18

it's most likely Trump's going to win the primary, it's

23:20

most likely he'll lose the general. And

23:23

therefore, Tucker is slated to inherit

23:25

his base. So why alienate

23:28

any of his supporters and told

23:30

that? That's clearly the calculus.

23:33

Again, we, you and I are never the calculus.

23:36

It's always someone's career. Never

23:38

forget that. If you earn more than a certain amount

23:41

of money in this business, inevitably

23:43

that becomes, whether they admit it to themselves

23:45

or not, that becomes their primary focus.

23:49

So that's where Tucker is

23:51

coming from. Now,

23:54

again, I don't care. Despite everything you

23:56

said, you want to endorse it and support it,

23:59

but it's this no- that it's all

24:01

good.

24:04

So this man is like, yeah, I grilled

24:06

the candidates.

24:08

Let's talk about Iowa. I grilled the candidates.

24:12

Now, most of them,

24:14

actually pretty much all except for one, which

24:16

is DeSantis, he actually really didn't.

24:18

And that's fine, he was very friendly, and you

24:20

know, you want to have a chilled

24:21

out, sit down, let them talk. I have

24:23

no problem with that, but it's funny that the grillers, Tucker,

24:26

I hear all this, Tucker took it to the next level.

24:28

Like you look at the questions, there

24:30

was nothing novel there. It's weird.

24:32

You listen to one of my interviews, it's much

24:35

more hard-hitting, even with a friendly.

24:38

But it's weird, but okay, but

24:41

it's fine. I mean, I don't expect that, but

24:43

don't lie about what you're doing.

24:46

But then there was one man who didn't show

24:49

up, the most important

24:51

person, meaning if you believe the primary

24:53

is basically over and he's gonna win. So

24:56

all the more so, he is a hundred times

24:58

more relevant than anyone else. Even

25:01

the biggest idol worshipper of Trump, if

25:03

you call yourself America first, sovereignty,

25:06

you know,

25:07

new right,

25:09

based, in any way,

25:12

you have to concede there are certain critical

25:14

things that are very concerning about his behavior,

25:16

his

25:17

consistency, his focus, his ideology

25:20

on certain issues,

25:22

his ability to have personnel the right people

25:24

around him,

25:25

the fact that it's basically either Laura Loomer or

25:27

Lindsey Graham. There's no sane

25:30

based people around him. They're

25:32

either establishment or, if you want to call them

25:34

based, they're loony

25:37

and belong in a mental institute or morally

25:39

corrupt. There

25:41

are some important questions that need to be

25:43

asked of him.

25:45

And not just asked in an interview, but in

25:48

a setting,

25:49

in an early state,

25:51

that's like a forum with other candidates there.

25:58

Now, typically in this industry,

26:00

People's support for a candidate is defined

26:03

by whether they kissed their ring. Not whether

26:05

it's the right thing to do, but whether they kissed their ring.

26:07

But in this case, so strong

26:09

is the idolatry of Trump.

26:12

That Trump could piss and shirk

26:14

Tucker himself, who

26:16

the last couple weeks has basically endorsed

26:19

him and he still doesn't show up and

26:21

Tucker has not a word to say. And

26:24

then his supporters, you had this Congresswoman

26:26

Luna at the toilet paper USA and

26:28

then Kerry Lake has been saying this all over the

26:30

place. These

26:32

cowardly candidates like Chris Christie, who

26:35

didn't show up. Chris Christie is irrelevant.

26:38

Your man didn't show up. There's no self-awareness

26:41

or perhaps there is. They're

26:44

so up his ass that they think the rules

26:46

don't apply to him. And

26:49

they literally all got up there. All

26:51

these commentators.

26:53

Mr. Trump is very busy.

26:55

He had a conflict of schedule.

26:59

Yeah, there's no evidence he did. That's first of all, it's

27:01

made up. But three days

27:03

ago, his senior adviser, Jason Miller

27:05

said, quote, he is unlikely,

27:08

unquote,

27:09

to come to any of the debates. So

27:13

you can't speculate made up excuses

27:16

for not showing up to the Tucker summit

27:19

because you have to view it

27:21

in the broader context

27:23

of what he clearly said that he is not coming.

27:26

So at the same time, they say, oh, we had a

27:28

conflict. But then they also

27:31

hint to, well, he's way ahead. This was an opportunity

27:33

to not overwhelm the event

27:35

and allow other people. What are you talking about?

27:39

Nothing says populism like I am owed

27:41

the nomination. And I don't

27:43

have to stand before the people side by side

27:46

with other candidates and debate.

27:49

That should be I don't care where you

27:51

are on

27:52

the spectrum. That should be unacceptable.

27:56

At least gently say, hey, Trump, you would have done

27:58

great. We wish he could have been. there. Come

28:01

on, you should come.

28:03

Even gently nothing. You

28:06

know, some people are saying was a big mistake for him not

28:09

to come and it would be a mistake not to come

28:11

to the real debates. Actually,

28:13

I think Jason Miller, his senior advisor

28:15

is right. If I were advising him, it's

28:19

douchebaggery.

28:21

But pure advice, I'd

28:23

say you're right.

28:25

Because he only has what to lose

28:27

from it not to gain politically.

28:30

And now

28:31

the rub against it is yeah, but whatever

28:34

you would gain by not having DeSantis

28:36

have an opportunity to get the better

28:38

of you would be washed away that you're going

28:40

to be slaughtered for the cowardice

28:43

of not showing up.

28:44

But no, what my colleagues

28:46

in this business have demonstrated is

28:49

they are so bankrupt, they

28:51

will all cover for him. He could not show

28:53

up to a single debate and be like, that was a smart

28:56

move. You know,

28:58

he allowed the other candidates to have

29:00

some time.

29:02

There is nothing this man could

29:04

do that

29:05

will draw even mild

29:08

rebuke. It's worse than it's ever been even

29:10

the last eight years. Generally, when he

29:12

get off message, we have you know, at least certain number

29:14

of people like hey, come on, come on Trump, you know,

29:17

that's ridiculous.

29:18

Now it is on complete

29:20

lockdown. It's worse than ever.

29:25

So that's the first

29:27

thing.

29:29

And by the way, it's like it's worse than Jeremiah

29:31

two. See, back then it was like you

29:33

talk to a stone that doesn't answer you here,

29:36

your idol does talk to you

29:39

and says contrary to the

29:42

very premise

29:43

of why you freakin worship him. And

29:46

yet you still worship him.

29:48

What the hell? All

29:53

right, you know,

29:54

I promised myself, I

29:56

can't make a promise because I'm on the verge

29:58

of breaking it but I won't say words that

30:00

my wife wouldn't want to hear. We'll

30:04

try to get through the rest without that.

30:08

So that's a pretty big moment,

30:10

that in itself, but I'm not done yet. You put

30:12

it all together.

30:14

Now, if you notice that Tucker just

30:17

grilled the candidates,

30:19

no he didn't.

30:21

He strategically, the only

30:23

ones he had a heavy discussion with

30:26

were the two most irrelevant

30:28

ones,

30:29

which is Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson.

30:33

Mike Pence on Ukraine

30:36

was already fully out in the open.

30:38

Tucker didn't expose anything more.

30:41

Mike Pence to his credit is very open

30:43

about that. There was nothing exposed.

30:46

So there was nothing new, there was no new ground

30:48

plowed there

30:49

and Asa Hutchinson,

30:51

they finished their debate that they had two

30:53

years ago over the trainee stuff. Everyone knows

30:55

that and more importantly the two of them are irrelevant.

30:58

They're not going anywhere.

31:00

You start getting to Nikki,

31:02

he was a little bit more friendly too. She's

31:04

a now she's not going anywhere,

31:07

but she's playing the game like where

31:09

is Asa and

31:10

Pence are directly against Trump. So

31:13

Nikki's playing a little bit of a soft double

31:15

game. Now, she's irrelevant, but

31:17

the idea is to have her chip away a few

31:20

points from DeSantis, but

31:22

even more so is Tim Scott who

31:24

got even more softballs and Scott

31:27

made a fool out of himself.

31:30

He looked like a complete clown,

31:34

but Scott again, he's not going anywhere either,

31:37

but he's viewed as if you don't know his

31:39

record,

31:40

like you know some conservatives who want to move on from

31:42

Trump might, you know, again siphon off a few

31:44

more points.

31:45

Nothing

31:46

and then Vivek was just like, oh

31:48

my gosh, Slobberfest, no

31:51

questions about his past, his

31:53

pimping mass and social distancing

31:56

in the vaccines, especially given his biomedical

31:58

background with his company. He's pushing such

32:01

bad surveillance

32:03

technology that even our government didn't accept

32:05

it. He was an advisor to Mike DeWine.

32:08

It's like being an advisor to Hitler during the Third

32:10

Reich. That's the equivalent of being an advisor

32:12

to Mike DeWine on COVID

32:15

during the Fourth Reich. The worst Republican governor.

32:18

No questions.

32:21

And he got to do his whole like, he's kind of like

32:23

a Barack Obama, this hopey

32:25

change. Oh, I'm going to go into a D plus 50

32:28

district, South

32:30

Chicago, the Bronx, and I'm going to

32:32

convert people.

32:34

That's why he was so vehemently against national

32:37

divorce, because he's building a brand

32:39

off of, I'm going to go into like the

32:42

hardcore Democrat areas and debate. See,

32:45

if you're trying to win and do something and

32:47

actually change civilization, we're

32:49

struggling to get to the 50 yard line. You

32:51

could barely win a national election. The notion

32:53

you're going to win at the 90, 95 is absurd, nor

32:57

do we need to do it. It's so not cost

32:59

efficient.

33:00

I'll never forget, by the way,

33:03

where I live. So

33:05

I mean, I don't live in the district, but nearby one of the Baltimore

33:08

area districts is

33:10

you had this woman two cycles ago running Kimberly

33:13

Klychik.

33:14

And she was like a black conservative,

33:17

and she would like walk down the street, like

33:19

in high heels and say, yeah,

33:22

like why are you guys voting Democrat? And they and

33:24

it went viral. And she got tons of

33:27

money, because that's what click servatism

33:29

is. There

33:30

was nothing behind it, by the way, was a typical kind

33:32

of like Trump fake fakeness, no

33:35

substance, but it was like, yeah, the black conservative

33:37

type of thing.

33:38

And

33:39

all my colleagues were in mourning

33:41

when she literally,

33:43

typically, the Republican nominee

33:46

in that district gets like, I want to say 33%.

33:50

And she literally did not move it one digit,

33:53

whatever it was. And

33:55

I could have told them that it's just like, has nothing

33:57

to do with, oh, you run a black female candidate,

33:59

whatever. That's how they vote and you're

34:01

just not gonna change that. You're just, I mean,

34:03

it's a waste of time. I

34:05

mean, that's why we need national divorce. People don't realize

34:08

like, yeah, I know it's not very like hope

34:10

and changey and soaring rhetoric.

34:13

Oh no, we don't give up on

34:15

an inch of America. Like, but that's

34:18

bull crap and you know it. But that's,

34:20

but if you're trying to build a brand

34:23

and become a grifter, then

34:25

it's a great shtick.

34:27

And all these conservative media, he is

34:30

unanimously, oh, he's the best thing

34:32

because they don't wanna look like they're just promoting Trump.

34:35

So the comedic relief now is

34:37

praise Vivek, praise RFK

34:40

in order to distract and suck out oxygen

34:42

from DeSantis and help Trump. See,

34:45

what's fundamentally dishonest about this whole Vivek

34:47

love fest is if you take, see,

34:50

we know he's a fraud, but if you believe

34:52

in what he's saying face value, he's

34:54

articulate, he's smart, he's specific,

34:56

he's saying everything we want, he's

34:59

very telegenic and

35:02

on paper sounds like he actually could appeal

35:04

to young people. So then why wouldn't you vote

35:07

for Vivek over

35:08

Trump?

35:10

See, ask them that question. Whenever you find

35:12

a Trump or sitting and promoting Vivek, so

35:14

vote for Vivek. He's

35:16

much more electable, doesn't have all the scandals,

35:19

hasn't turned people off.

35:22

He's not abrasive, he's

35:24

just the opposite. And

35:27

on paper, I actually think he would appeal to

35:29

people. Think if he ever got in there, he'd be a fraud,

35:32

but

35:33

if you don't believe what I believe,

35:36

then in their paradigm,

35:39

if you care about winning an election, they

35:42

are openly saying he is more consistently

35:45

conservative and based than Trump,

35:48

he is more articulate.

35:49

I mean, that's obvious. I mean, Trump sounds

35:51

like Federman. He's

35:53

fresh, he's new, he's young.

35:57

Why wouldn't you support Vivek? The answer

35:59

is it's a fraud.

35:59

It's all a setup

36:02

to promote Trump.

36:04

It's a complete lie. So

36:07

that's why Tucker slobbered all

36:09

over him. Then he gets

36:12

to DeSantis. And I

36:14

want to make it very clear, a couple things. Except

36:18

for one thing I'm going to mention where he bore

36:20

false witness and lied. I didn't

36:22

mind the interview. I thought it was great. And I

36:25

think it could have even been more intense. And

36:27

I think that's what needs to be demanded of everyone,

36:29

including Mitt the Tomp.

36:33

But if Trump actually came, he wouldn't have done it.

36:36

To start saying, like, now, typically,

36:39

an affable interview,

36:42

the way you would do it, and Tucker's

36:44

style, what he's known for, would

36:46

be something like this. Generally very

36:48

friendly, just let the guy talk, what do you

36:50

bow, what makes you tick. But then you have

36:53

one question that's like kind of the typical

36:56

flip-flop thing. Well, wait, you're a candidate, you say

36:58

this, but then now you're saying that,

37:00

which one is it?

37:02

And you would have strategically picked one

37:04

for each one.

37:05

For example, and this would have

37:07

been so on brand with Tim Scott.

37:10

And by the way, Tucker

37:12

has crushed him before when

37:14

he wasn't a foil for Trump. He

37:17

crushed him on the criminal justice deform and

37:20

Floyd. And Tim Scott

37:22

has the nerve to get up there and say criminals

37:24

should be locked up when his whole career

37:27

has been working with how Kim Jeffries and

37:29

the most radical jailbreak organizations

37:32

on that. That would have been so on brand

37:34

for Tucker, didn't ask him.

37:38

Vivek,

37:39

the question would have been, very

37:42

simply, you

37:45

know, you now say

37:47

all this, all the mandates were bad and this is bad, but you are all

37:49

into masks. He

37:51

was very obnoxious about it, by the way, months,

37:54

years after the truth was known, saying

37:56

why are conservatives opposed to masks? wouldn't

38:01

ask him about that. In

38:03

fact, COVID was never brought up

38:05

one time.

38:07

Okay, starts off right

38:10

away and hits him with, would you sign

38:12

a

38:12

heartbeat bill as president? So right away

38:15

giving him like, now,

38:16

and he answered beautifully. But

38:19

I'm just saying like, that is a tough question, because we

38:22

are taking on water politically. There

38:25

is a question about doing it nationally, whatever,

38:27

you know, if

38:28

it you know, the cost benefit analysis, I'm not giving

38:30

an opinion on it. I'm just saying, right away, you give

38:32

him a heavy question. But that that's, that's legit.

38:35

And I want to make it clear, I am not whining.

38:37

I actually think DeSantis came out and had a good

38:39

weekend in Iowa.

38:41

But my point, my point is,

38:44

I'm not about DeSantis. I

38:46

think he had a good weekend did well. And I think it served

38:48

him well. I

38:51

mean, he's not still in a precarious situation.

38:54

But he's better off than he was before. I think

38:57

it really resonated in Iowa. And

38:59

I think he was the star of the show, despite

39:01

the conservative media pimping Vivek. And

39:05

everyone, everyone agrees to that.

39:09

My problem is what this portends

39:11

for the future.

39:14

So then he goes on to Ukraine.

39:16

Now,

39:18

there has been this myth that has been perpetuated

39:21

all along. What happens now is,

39:23

and I want to give a little bit of an introduction

39:25

to this. I

39:28

started seeing these people like Laura loomer putting

39:31

out terrible things about DeSantis out of nowhere.

39:33

And this Alex Bruce, which I never heard of him. And

39:37

I never I ignored it, because I know I

39:39

didn't feel it is fair to

39:41

tag Trump supporters with Laura loomer.

39:44

She is

39:45

unstable, needs, you know, help,

39:48

you know, has issues. And, you know, it's fine.

39:51

You can't have some random person on Twitter, you know,

39:54

somehow defining Trump

39:57

people. And I feel that's very unfair.

39:59

over time, I started noticing

40:02

that

40:03

a good number of the stuff she was putting

40:05

out, it

40:06

started filtering in to more

40:08

so-called mainstream conservative voices

40:11

and some level. And they start

40:13

saying things that are just wrong. Like I'll

40:15

get an email, Daniel, why is Paul

40:18

Ryan supporting Ron DeSantis?

40:19

I'm like, what

40:21

the hell are you talking about? But you repeat

40:24

a lie so many times, it becomes

40:26

true. By the way, it's not just that Trump

40:28

supported everything from Paul Ryan

40:31

while DeSantis co-founded the

40:33

Freedom Caucus as a reaction

40:35

to Paul Ryan. I want to give you a story

40:38

that I don't think I've ever

40:40

said before, but

40:42

it just will demonstrate how severe this

40:45

bearing a false witness is and

40:47

how disgusting it is.

40:50

So

40:51

you go back 2014,

40:55

2015, my relationship with DeSantis in Congress

40:58

was kind of similar to what my relationship

41:00

is with someone like an Andy Biggs, a Chip Roy,

41:02

a Dan Bishop, Thomas Massey,

41:06

where I'd constantly try to text them and

41:08

be in touch like, hey, this is going down,

41:11

what are we going to do about this legislative strategy? And

41:14

I worked very hard in it was

41:17

a Christmas break of 2014 going to 2015 to get rid of

41:21

John Boehner. In fact, during that two

41:23

week where everyone takes off, I didn't

41:25

stop working. I worked harder than ever. So

41:27

working the phones, trying to call. So

41:30

inevitably, you know, who would

41:32

I call a guy like Ron DeSantis? He was

41:35

congressman at the time to get

41:37

rid of, you know, to join the fight.

41:41

And Ron at the time and no one's this

41:43

is not public and I'm gonna make it public.

41:46

Ron at the time and I don't remember if it was

41:48

a call or a text.

41:51

And he said

41:53

to me, he said, Daniel, there's something

41:56

you're missing.

41:57

And he did not join the fight. And here's why.

41:59

He

42:01

said, John Boehner, this is already four

42:03

years into him, he said he's been so repudiated,

42:06

nobody in the conference has respect for

42:08

him. He's kind of a dead man walking.

42:11

He says, whereas if you get rid of him,

42:14

at the end of the day, we could complain

42:17

about Boehner all we want, but Boehner

42:19

is a mere reflection of the conference,

42:22

which sucks. Like, the

42:24

problem with the Republican Party is the Republican Party. And that's

42:26

why he ultimately left Congress. He

42:29

felt you can get nothing done there. And he wanted

42:31

to be his own man as an executive in Florida. And

42:33

it was the right decision, right? It was

42:35

one of the best decisions ever made, that

42:37

he took that risk, he could have a safe district,

42:39

he could have stayed in there forever. But what

42:42

was the purpose?

42:44

He's like,

42:45

you're just gonna get another one. And who are

42:47

you gonna get? He said,

42:48

I promise you, you're gonna get Paul Ryan.

42:51

And he said, and now everyone's a big hero.

42:53

Oh, Paul Ryan's hero. But back then,

42:56

oh,

42:56

every all the Jim Jordans of

42:58

the world, they would slobber over him. So

43:00

he would be able to enact

43:02

the bad stuff with much more

43:05

political gravitas and political

43:08

capital. And he was like, I'm telling you,

43:10

but you know, I was so into the importance

43:12

of getting rid of Boehner, I still like I didn't take it to

43:14

heart. Well, you know, we actually failed

43:17

and we didn't get rid of Boehner. But a couple

43:19

months later, it reached a boiling point,

43:21

and he was pushed out without even a vote.

43:24

And guess what happened?

43:25

Paul Ryan became speaker.

43:27

And he was right. And I just bring

43:29

that up to say because all

43:31

these people are like, you know, maybe

43:34

because there's one or two donors that also donated

43:36

to Paul Ryan, but that's inevitable. So

43:39

somehow, you know, oh, like

43:41

this guy opposed them before it was cool.

43:44

When years later, Trump till the

43:46

very last day of Paul Ryan speakership

43:49

affirmed everything he did. And there's a whole

43:51

montage of all the praise. He actually

43:53

said Paul Ryan is like wine, it grows

43:56

on you. But

43:58

but again, facts don't.

43:59

matter. That's my problem.

44:02

It's a fact-free zone.

44:05

It doesn't freaking matter.

44:08

It doesn't matter.

44:10

So

44:11

anyway, they've been perpetuating

44:14

this lie that DeSantis

44:16

is kind of wishy-washy on

44:18

Ukraine. He's flip-flopped. He's

44:21

gone back. He's really a neocon.

44:23

He needs to clarify his position. And then

44:26

all the sheep

44:28

in Animal Farm. So the chant

44:31

went down to all these voices. And

44:36

I asked him, I was like, when did

44:38

he ever go back? I never heard that.

44:42

So what happened was they created this false

44:44

premise that he was really a neocon

44:47

and then put out the base

44:49

statement saying it's just a territorial dispute

44:52

over ethnically Russian areas that we really

44:54

can't hold and shouldn't get involved with. It's not in our national

44:57

interest. But then

44:59

he went back on it.

45:01

And in reality, anyone who knows

45:03

him,

45:05

he was one of the earlier voices

45:08

among the more Reagan conservatives,

45:11

as opposed to like Iran-Paul or really

45:13

a Democrat that became a Republican, more

45:16

of a traditional conservative that started moving away

45:18

from this business. And he was like, we cannot

45:20

referee these Sunni Shia things. And as

45:23

he said many times, he said at Tucker's Forum,

45:25

he says as a soldier, he was literally

45:27

the only one who of the candidates, he

45:30

was in Anbar Province, this

45:32

whole, you know, refereeing Sunni

45:34

Shias in the worst time. He was there like,

45:37

it was really bad. He was there during

45:39

the worst times. So

45:42

he's like, I learned that like this whole thing

45:44

is a boondoggle. And it's

45:46

the same thing here that you have. We're trying

45:48

to have the Ukrainians hold Crimea

45:51

and Donuts. That's why often he'll spell out

45:53

if you notice, he'll spell out those two specifically,

45:56

because they're Russian ethnic areas

45:58

and you're just professional.

45:59

the same. His

46:01

his his position

46:03

has been abundantly clear. Like,

46:06

well, he doesn't talk about enough. Well, every town

46:08

hall he's asked about it. And he

46:10

said there's a bunch of clips.

46:12

Right. But okay, but they perpetuated

46:15

this lie. So they all start repeating

46:17

it.

46:19

Now what happened? What happened was

46:22

he he

46:24

was asked

46:26

the neocons went nuts when he

46:28

said that. So the neocons said he's

46:31

pro Putin.

46:32

So DeSantis just said in the Piers

46:34

Morgan interview, he's like, No, I'm not

46:36

pro pro

46:37

Putin. I think he's a war criminal. But

46:41

again, that's it. Nonetheless, it doesn't negate.

46:44

Yeah, I think he's a bit now. Honestly,

46:47

the more I think about Ukraine, I actually

46:49

think he's he's almost justified

46:51

in what he did. I actually disagree with that

46:53

statement. But be it as a may that

46:56

does not negate the fact that yeah,

46:59

he's a bad dude, but it's not in our

47:01

interest.

47:03

Tucker goes

47:05

up to DeSantis and says,

47:08

Hey, you know, so on the one hand, you said that's

47:10

not in our interest. But then on the other hand,

47:14

you said Putin's a war criminal.

47:16

And it really is in our national interest. He

47:19

added on a second clause, meaning

47:21

this one thing that you

47:23

kind of like use a different word to paraphrase

47:25

someone. But here you can't mistaken it.

47:27

And Tucker was always very good about that.

47:30

He added on a

47:31

statement that did not exist. And

47:34

I'm telling you, coupled with all these other observations

47:37

that is coming from and headed

47:39

to a very dark place.

47:42

And look, DeSantis very gently said, Well, the second

47:45

half I never said, and he gave a

47:47

very coherent statement on what

47:49

sort of statecraft he would use to

47:52

pressure a piece.

47:54

Trump, of course, the next day with

47:56

Maria Bartiromo says this retarded thing

47:58

that I'm gonna threaten to arm.

48:00

Zelensky Moore and how

48:02

that's gonna force Putin

48:04

so he sounds like Lindsey Graham but that's not even the

48:06

point the point is he said Zelensky

48:08

is an honorable man who has said a lot of good things

48:11

about me. Tucker himself

48:13

has recognized

48:16

that flattery is one of his biggest

48:18

weaknesses. That is a huge

48:21

problem both national security for

48:23

like you know everyone around the world but domestically

48:26

with the Democrats and left they know

48:29

how to flatter him and that's how they got him

48:31

to pass the first step act which Tucker

48:33

claims to have opposed. This

48:36

is what I can't handle

48:39

and of course nothing no questions

48:41

Trump needs to clarify his position nothing

48:44

and then he was asked about what you would do about the

48:46

weaponization of the FBI like he's literally

48:49

indicted this

48:50

is his issue and he starts

48:52

talking about

48:54

the real estate the building of

48:56

the FBI

48:57

like yeah some people wanted to move it out some people

48:59

that's

49:00

what I'm saying even now he

49:02

sounds retarded

49:05

and none of my colleagues will demand any clarification

49:09

and again if you think he's a fait accompli

49:11

all the more so he is

49:14

the most relevant candidate that needs

49:16

to be held to the highest standard

49:20

that's what bothers me

49:22

again I I don't I don't

49:24

mind a rigorous

49:27

interview of DeSantis I think he could have made it

49:29

more rigorous frankly and

49:31

brought out more nuance I would have liked him to press

49:33

him on

49:34

you know the the prep act and things

49:36

like that

49:38

but don't lie

49:39

there are certain rules we don't believe

49:42

in

49:43

bearing false witness and

49:45

that really was dirty

49:47

because he snuck it in and

49:50

that made all the difference and he knows it

49:54

click servatism you're

49:58

either popular or you you're not.

50:02

What matters now is whether you are in

50:04

with the right click, not whether you fight for

50:06

the right things.

50:08

So you could be Bruce Jenner, but

50:10

if you saddle up to Trump, you're great. You

50:13

could have done the greatest things for us, but if you don't, you're

50:16

dirt.

50:17

And you need to be dehumanized. I'm

50:20

telling you at this pace,

50:23

in another couple weeks,

50:24

the mainstream legacy fake conservative

50:27

talkers at the top 50 of the iTunes

50:29

charts

50:31

will

50:32

begin pushing this

50:34

Laura Loomer,

50:35

Casey DeSantis faked her cancer. I'm

50:37

just waiting for that. I'm

50:41

waiting for that.

50:43

But this is the thing. It's like now suddenly

50:45

Kim Reynolds is dirt. But

50:49

Kristi Noem, who's backing Trump,

50:52

could screw us and that's fine. And

50:54

no one will use their clout to stand up for

50:56

the South Dakota landowners.

51:00

This is what bothers me. It's

51:04

disgusting.

51:09

And it's like the

51:11

other thing is Trump set out his

51:13

toilet paper USA speech. I'm

51:16

gonna defund

51:17

all schools that have vaccine mandates.

51:20

That issues are a that issues already over with,

51:22

but be

51:22

he was president.

51:25

And he you know, now you didn't

51:27

have the vaccines yet when he was president, but you

51:29

had parallel, which is even stronger. You

51:31

had the shutdown and he actually promised

51:34

in the summer

51:36

of 2020 to not fund the schools that were

51:39

shutting down. And

51:43

we begged him I wrote endless

51:44

columns. Not only did

51:46

he

51:47

not cut off funding in the regular appropriations

51:50

for the September CR in 2020, but

51:52

he then

51:54

signed 82 billion

51:57

in additional funding for K through 12 and Universities

52:01

plus another 5 billion discretionary

52:03

fund

52:04

for the

52:05

governors

52:07

rewarding them for the lockdown

52:09

and a lot of the money was to fund Zoom

52:11

school. It's not

52:13

just that, oh, he was president and he had

52:16

the opportunity to do it and didn't do it. He

52:18

did the opposite. And

52:20

this is not some retroactive oppo research

52:23

that, you know, Daniel is on Google

52:26

trying to find it. I lived it. I wrote

52:28

about it. I spoke about it. What

52:31

am I supposed to do? Erase

52:33

from my mind my legislative knowledge? There's

52:38

something about fighting almost

52:40

every major primary congressional,

52:42

senate, governor that matter.

52:45

Every budget bill, every important

52:47

piece of legislation, every important idea

52:49

over the last 15 years.

52:52

I have a long memory.

52:53

This is not even long ago.

52:56

Facts simply don't

52:59

matter.

53:00

If you're in with the cool kids, Andrew

53:02

Tate,

53:03

a disgusting pornographer, is

53:06

now, that was Tucker's first interview.

53:09

Because you find some quasi-cultural

53:11

dirtbag that says one thing critiquing

53:13

the elites that we like, and it's

53:15

like, boom, nothing matters. Because

53:18

we ourselves have no beliefs, so we

53:20

have to glum onto every piece of trash

53:23

that we find. That's

53:26

the state

53:27

of the conservative movement.

53:32

It's like, and again,

53:34

it's like facts don't matter with Trump. I

53:37

had this conversation with a friend of mine.

53:40

Medical freedom movement, by the way.

53:42

One of the big guys, and he's onto

53:45

RFK, but then funny, he admits to

53:47

me later, I'm concerned about his wife. I'm

53:49

like, yeah, no kidding. If he actually

53:51

were in a position of power, not just the head of

53:53

an NGO, he'd

53:55

be a lot more reluctant, and indeed, he actually

53:58

offered it on his own and said, to save the world. in a

54:00

conversation told me he'd take a sledgehammer

54:02

to the NIH. She said, I would do more of a scalpel.

54:06

He's not who you think he is. I'm not saying he's not an ally.

54:09

You could be an ally with people on an issue. I'm proud

54:11

to do it and I have.

54:12

And Children's Health Defense Fund has promoted

54:15

my work. It's fine, but don't

54:17

suddenly, see, when you have a movement,

54:20

you can work with an adjacent movement, but

54:22

we don't have a core. So we just

54:24

sell ourselves out to the next person. But

54:26

anyway,

54:27

then this guy's like, yeah, I'm not so into dissent,

54:29

I don't know. And then I was like, what

54:32

about Trump?

54:33

And then I finally did, and you know,

54:36

I say all these things, it's indefensible. He

54:38

can't defend his position.

54:39

Then he finally says, yeah, but you know what Daniel, who

54:41

cares anyway, it's more important that we fix

54:44

things down the ballot, like getting rid

54:46

of McCarthy and Rona McDaniel. And

54:48

I was like, are you

54:49

trolling me? Do you

54:51

know that Trump, at the moment

54:53

that they were teetering, we almost

54:55

got rid of both of them. He was

54:57

the decisive factor in keeping McCarthy

55:00

and McDaniel.

55:01

And he's like, oh, I didn't know that. Well,

55:04

Daniel, you know politics. I'm

55:07

not into politics. But I was like, what do you mean you're not

55:09

into politics? You know what the F you

55:11

wanna know.

55:12

If you're not into politics, who not

55:15

into politics knows who Rona McDaniel

55:17

is?

55:18

No, you wouldn't know

55:19

who she is and that she's a problem to conservatives.

55:22

You wouldn't know that.

55:24

The answer is you're a reflection

55:27

of what conservative media tells you

55:29

to know.

55:30

And that's how conservative media, my friends,

55:33

is subverting and rotting the core

55:35

of our people worse than the left. I respect

55:38

the left.

55:40

They fight for what they believe in.

55:42

We openly subvert.

55:44

We claim to know God and

55:47

then piss on him.

55:50

It's disgusting.

55:53

And always a day late dollar short. They're always

55:55

glumming onto the issues that we

55:57

hear we're fighting from day one, whether it's

55:59

COVID.

55:59

whether it's Ukraine, whether

56:02

it's the border, the fentanyl. I did

56:04

a whole series in 2017-2018 on

56:07

fentanyl was not an opioid crisis

56:09

like prescription, it was

56:11

a border jailbreak driven crisis. While

56:14

by the way the very commentators that

56:16

are now crying about fentanyl are the

56:18

ones that supported criminal justice to form.

56:21

Including by the way the one who ran

56:23

the toilet paper USA

56:26

meeting there

56:29

promoted criminal justice to form

56:32

and now suddenly it was all that that's the

56:35

the establishment DeSantis is establishing

56:37

DeSantis is fighting the Koch brothers

56:39

the only

56:40

one of all 50 governors

56:43

on crime

56:44

and you bought into it and

56:47

you bought and people that were neo-cons

56:50

until three minutes ago were pimping

56:52

Ukraine till three minutes ago by the way now it's like

56:54

oh DeSantis is not strong enough on

56:56

it.

56:57

What the hell?

56:59

And now Megyn Kelly is

57:02

somehow a rehabilitated voice. She

57:05

is the reason

57:06

she was the Tucker prime time spot

57:08

for a decade. She is the reason

57:11

last decade that we were so decrepit and

57:14

now she's like Fox News sucks. I

57:16

love all these people that made their career on Fox

57:19

all these guests and now that that

57:21

grift is over and there's a new like orbit

57:24

of MAGA grift so they've moved on

57:26

to that but it's the

57:27

same movement. And

57:29

that's my bottom line There's

57:33

nothing new about this How

57:36

do you think despite on paper most

57:39

conservatives being one way? Year

57:42

after year we elevated the

57:45

worst rhinos to the highest

57:47

honor of being the leader of the party and

57:49

the presidential nominee

57:50

Bush senior Bush junior

57:53

Dole McCain Romney

57:56

This is the same thing. There's nothing different.

57:58

It's just people

57:59

finally got old with the old demeanor,

58:02

so they came in with a new thing that,

58:05

you know, there's this whole thing that conservatives

58:08

have been passive and stupid,

58:10

we need to be aggressive. And again,

58:12

they take a valid point, but then they

58:15

miss the point. It's like the idiot who, you

58:17

know, looks at someone pointing to the moon, they focus

58:19

on the finger, rather than the moon. So

58:22

it's like,

58:23

to them the point is not, so you need to aggressively

58:25

defend your prerogatives and get outcomes. Like,

58:28

be nasty. Just like,

58:30

you're fat, you're ugly. Like

58:33

just say, so they now worship

58:36

like shock jock things, so you're

58:38

defined by, oh, if

58:40

you say like, yeah,

58:42

I grabbed the women and I like the whole Andrew

58:44

Tate thing, man, you know, like,

58:47

because it's all about cutting through taboos.

58:49

So you're not allowed to say things. But there's a difference

58:52

between you're not allowed to say the vaccine causes

58:54

death and we'll say the vaccines of bioweapon versus

58:57

like, okay, I'm going to break the decorum of

58:59

like, say, just

59:01

needlessly be

59:02

nasty to people.

59:04

Like, okay, what is a was that get

59:06

us, especially if you're horrible on policy

59:09

and outcomes. And be like,

59:11

is that a virtue is like, is that something that

59:13

we should now be happy with? It's

59:17

funny, you have all these unmarried philandering

59:20

and those are the ones who aren't homosexual people

59:23

throughout the Trump orbit. And when I say

59:25

that, I don't mean average people, I just want to

59:27

vote for the guy. I'm talking about these

59:29

grifters.

59:30

They're calling all of our people

59:33

homosexuals who are married with kids.

59:36

And it's the funniest thing. But

59:39

you know, that's the psychology behind that is obvious.

59:42

But this is my bottom line. This

59:45

is my bottom line. This

59:47

is not about the scientists, not even about Trump.

59:51

It's about if we don't affirmatively

59:54

have beliefs,

59:56

row in a boat towards a lighthouse of

59:58

what we want.

59:59

We're just gonna get fake reactionary

1:00:02

populism that comes in a full

1:00:05

circle like it always does in history. You

1:00:07

read Animal Farm and you land

1:00:09

in the same place. You are just

1:00:12

as decrepit and disgusting

1:00:15

as the people you claim to be fighting.

1:00:18

And you gain nothing.

1:00:20

Except that you yourself

1:00:23

are now okay

1:00:25

with that behavior because you

1:00:27

put your groupie stamp on it.

1:00:30

You make open borders great again.

1:00:33

You make homosexuality great again. You even

1:00:35

make tranny grooming Bruce Gender

1:00:37

great again.

1:00:39

It's all good!

1:00:41

As long as you stand for the right

1:00:43

cult,

1:00:44

it is all good. So

1:00:47

long as it's Metta Thwomp

1:00:49

who said it. Or the next iteration because

1:00:51

again it wasn't Metta Thwomp. It was

1:00:53

the same thing. We have to beat the Democrats so we need Bob

1:00:56

Dole. See, there's

1:00:58

a crisis of intellect. There's a crisis

1:01:01

of values and there's a crisis of energy

1:01:03

and initiative. There's laziness

1:01:05

among the conservative chattering class.

1:01:08

What they it's no different

1:01:10

back in the day. It was like, oh my gosh, we've got to beat

1:01:13

Bill Clinton. Let's just get the most well-known

1:01:15

name that has the money, Bob Dole.

1:01:18

No one wants to try to work for something.

1:01:21

Same thing in 2000. Oh my gosh, eight years

1:01:24

of Clinton. Let's just get a bush. Let's just get a bush.

1:01:27

It was the same thing again and again. Mitt Romney

1:01:30

is the next in line.

1:01:31

Trump is no he's the next in line.

1:01:33

He's owed it. He's the one with the name.

1:01:35

He already a little. We don't want any mess. And

1:01:37

he let's just nominate him.

1:01:40

They act like it's some sort of new based

1:01:43

reawakening. It's bull crap. It's the same old.

1:01:47

And it's going to continue happening

1:01:50

that we elevate the loudest voice. So

1:01:54

it will be the next person, Kerry Lake.

1:01:57

Oh, yeah, yeah, we need to move away from

1:01:59

the culture.

1:01:59

War but the media is terrible

1:02:02

and we're lecture was stolen

1:02:05

and then when it comes to policy it's like wait

1:02:08

what it's all good

1:02:11

it is all good you know I always

1:02:14

love this VVV thing I'm not a politician

1:02:16

I hate that line dude if you're

1:02:18

running you're a politician stop the lie the

1:02:21

worst are the ones that never were in office

1:02:24

and don't have a clue like

1:02:26

the fake populace

1:02:27

the minute they're in there Kevin McCarthy

1:02:30

puts his arm around them and

1:02:32

is like oh we have the greatest spending cuts

1:02:34

ever and they're like oh really I'm gonna vote

1:02:36

for yes you're gonna vote for it

1:02:38

whereas the best guys are kind of like the

1:02:40

lawyer state legislatures that were

1:02:43

awesome in the legislature they come to Congress they

1:02:45

get the game

1:02:46

but you could officially call them oh you're a career politician

1:02:49

but that's bull that's

1:02:52

a superficial stupid point

1:02:55

when you elevate superficiality over

1:02:57

substance

1:02:58

this is what you get my friends and

1:03:01

that's just the way it is let

1:03:04

me know if you agree disagree Daniel Horowitz at start

1:03:06

mail calm always appreciate it we're

1:03:08

gonna get back to the issues tomorrow

1:03:10

because I'm pretty much burnt out from this so I'm

1:03:13

just gonna focus on what I could focus on and we'll

1:03:15

let the chips fall where they are till

1:03:18

then God bless y'all

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