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and everything that matters But
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most importantly the truth the
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whole truth and nothing but the truth
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so help us God here for
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a brand new week July 17th it is Monday and
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I
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Did not want to do today's show there are
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so much to cover. We've covered
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over the last couple of weeks everything from budget
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to legislation and inflation
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economy
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obviously medical freedom obviously
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immigration and the border
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the tranny stuff everything that matters and
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we're gonna continue doing that and
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Frankly, you know Friday's show really
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was was terrific if you haven't heard it we
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discussed With dr. Paul
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Merrick alternative cancer treatments
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the truth about cancer Increasingly
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I might get into things like that because
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politics has become so insufferable But
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today we will do in a political show raw
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politics more than policy
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because
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there's a lot of falsehood going going
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around a couple months ago
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clearly a dark switch
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has been flipped in
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people who call themselves based
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conservative media Right-leaning
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media America first media. Whatever
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name you want to use. It's all repackaged
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as the same Failure we've been
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dealing with since Reagan the
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Bush's Dole McCain
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Romney and then Trump it's all the same
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thing you put a little bit more flourish on it
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but it's the same thing
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and my concern here has
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nothing to do with DeSantis I
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Couldn't care less. He's been around for a couple
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months as a presidential candidate. It's
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not him in a vacuum. It's not even the
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concern about Trump being a distraction
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and a subversive force and idol-worshiping
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force that gets our people to support
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bad things that we wouldn't otherwise support. I mean
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that is a big part of it but it's even worse than
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that.
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It's even if tomorrow, I
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want to make this clear, the Trump versus the
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Santa thing is bringing this out to
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the forefront,
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but if the two of them would walk off
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into the sunset tomorrow,
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okay, they'd walk off and
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you never hear from either of them again. We
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would have this same problem
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because if you get the analogy, it's
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turtles all the way down or
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maybe aptly put, it's Kerry lakes
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all the way down, it's grift all
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the way down, there will be more after that
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because the entire movement
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that's called the
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conservative ink, MAGA ink, whatever new
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flavor you make it, it is built
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on a lie. It
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is built on a lack of regard
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for results and the very
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values they claim to espouse.
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There's nothing different about today's America
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First MAGA turning, whatever
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they call that convention they held in Florida
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over the weekend, toilet paper USA. It's
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the same thing as CPAC, just they'll
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have today's rhetoric that
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sounds more, you know, hardcore relative
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to the issues we face than five years
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ago at CPAC, but it's the same
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idea that when it comes to the issues
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that matter, in the way they matter, at the time
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they matter, they don't care, they're
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either indifferent or downright on the other side.
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Those who are actually working towards the primaries
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and the legislation that makes a difference, they're scoffed
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and ignored or sometimes opposed
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and it's all about groupiness, who's cool,
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if you're in with the cool kids, then it's
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all conservative, it's all great, even if
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it's antithetical to it. Homosexuality,
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philandering, you. You name it, it's all good. Andrew
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Tate is now the big hero. And
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conversely, you could do everything
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you espoused and said you wanted, and
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now you're a dirtbag. That's the problem.
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And I know it's a little bit dark, but we
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need a little bit of Jeremiah here. And
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that's what I'm gonna start out with. We're
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in a Jeremiah chapter two moment.
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And I'm just gonna kind of skip
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around
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and read from different passages
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to introduce
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kind of an overall look at
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what we saw
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from Tucker
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and Iowa Summit, the
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Iowa Family Leaders Summit with the candidates
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forum,
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the toilet paper USA thing, and
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just the general,
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almost near unanimous commentariat.
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Some people call themselves
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right leaning, and they're nothing more than just
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Republicans. That's what it is. Even
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the ones that say, oh, the Republican Party is terrible. And
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you know what? It's the ones that say what
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I say. They say what we say.
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We're gonna die. They're doing this. It's
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terrible. The government's like a bunch of Nazis. It
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is. And then conservative Inc is a
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failure. The Republican Party is a failure and we're sick
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of them. This is the new right. It's
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those people who are the worst. Because
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they claim to be on the side of God
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and strive for that and strive for the
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truth. And they're the ones that
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are subverting it the most. You
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know, I just want to say before we get into Jeremiah,
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I'm doing like a intro of the intro of
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the intro and I apologize because
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there's too much to say.
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But everyone's like, ha ha ha, Tucker
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slaughtered Mike Pence. And I'm like, first
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of all, there was nothing to slaughter. I mean,
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everyone knew he stood for that.
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And everyone knew where Mike Pence stood
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on those issues before. They know now he
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had zero chance of getting anywhere before and he
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has zero chance of getting anywhere now. And
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he's not gonna get any support.
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But there's something interesting, two points I want to
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make, while Mike Pence
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will never go anywhere in a presidential election.
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The supermajority, no
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strike that, near unanimity
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of opinion among GOP
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statewide elected officials.
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From Mitch McConnell to Kevin McCarthy
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to every senator, to almost every senator,
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minus six or seven or so,
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almost every governor, really everyone I believe except
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for DeSantis has this view on Ukraine.
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Like
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we talked about on Friday, about 70, 75 percent
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of House members, they
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have Mike
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Pence's view and that is not going
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to change. And there's a reason it's not,
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because of the subversion of the very people
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who say they're against that. But
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there's something stronger.
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I actually admire Mike
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Pence in a funny way.
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The same way, and I said this at the time about Jeb
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Bush too. They don't pander,
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they don't lie, they
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don't bear false witness.
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They will say openly, I don't
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give a darn about the forgotten American
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and I care about Ukraine more. They are very
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open about that. And you
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know, it says in Zachariah you
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should love
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truth and peace.
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Truth is placed there before
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peace because you can't have peace until
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you have truth.
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And we could have peace and come to
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a resolution. If the entire
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subversion was people like Mike Pence,
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we could come to a resolution and move on
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because they're honest. And
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they're honest and they don't try to hide from it
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and to their credit, and you know, 95% of
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Republican voters
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will not buy into that.
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But the worst are the people
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that claim to be so, you
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know,
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appalled by that view on that
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issue and the ten other important issues and We're
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sick of these weenie republicans and
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we want to fight and ba ba ba
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ba and we're sick of the grooming
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but then we're fine with Bruce Jenner
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those
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people that claim to know
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God and Spitting
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his face.
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They are the worst
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and that's what Jeremiah 2 is all
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about So says the Lord
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What wrong did your forefathers find in
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me that they distance themselves from me
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and they went after futility and themselves
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became feudal
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boy. Is that a
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description of
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this fake manga Inc the
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last number of years They
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didn't say where is the Lord who brought us
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up from the land of Egypt let us through the desert Land
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of the plains and pits and the land of
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waste and darkness where no man passed
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The priest did not say where is the Lord and
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those who hold on to the Torah
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did not know me and
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The rulers rebelled against me those
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who held on to it
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They grant I am the I
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am America first. I am for you.
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I am the one I am your revenge We
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are the new Beast
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Awakened
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right wing
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They rebelled against me more than anyone
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else and
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the prophets prophesied by bail
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and
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Followed what does not avail and
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God says therefore I will contend with you
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And there's an interesting part of going
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on to the rebuke Verse
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Does a nation exchange a God although they are
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not gods
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yet my nation exchanged their glory for
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what does not avail and again And
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what that means in my tradition,
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these and their similar verses throughout the Bible
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in several places,
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that God's saying, you're the chosen
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people. You know me, you see me, you
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know the truth. Why
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can't you believe in me with
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as much
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intrepidness and purity
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as the pagans? Because that's what you had. You had
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the Jews and the pagans. The
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pagans believe in their God. Do
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they, and it's not like they swap
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their, you know, the different gods swap this one for another one.
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No, they held on to their tradition.
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And that's where we are. I
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love the Democrats. They don't budge.
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Everything they do comports
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with what they want, with their
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outcomes. And likewise for Mitch
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McConnell and Mike Pence and these type of guys, they're
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not subversive. They're actually pretty open about
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what they believe in. There's a couple of
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issues maybe they disagree with the Democrats on. Other
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than that, it's just servicing their donors and their
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industries and everything they do is consistent
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with that. The worst
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are those who claim to reject that.
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But then do it, embrace
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the worst behaviors, values,
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and outcomes of the left.
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And then repackage it as if it's God's
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word.
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Those are the worst people.
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There's a lot of people who make fun out of
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John Federman.
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Oh, he's a vegetable. Look at him. Look
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at what
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he's saying. And
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you know,
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you listen to Trump's interviews
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and they literally sound like John Federman. Except
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there's one difference. There's
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one difference.
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As much as we make fun out of Federman,
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as much as he could barely walk
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and think and move,
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has he ever one time
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mistakenly scored
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points for the other team, carried the ball
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in the wrong end zone. Has he ever raised
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his hand at the Senate well and
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voted in a way contrary to
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his stated beliefs and
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the people
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he claims to represent?
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Never. And it never will happen. Because
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you know whether it's him or he has a staff
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they make sure he is oriented.
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It's not like he is so crazy at some
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point he'll vote the wrong way, vote for a conservative
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thing or against a liberal think no.
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And despite his crazy rhetoric 90%
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of the time it's gibberish 10%
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it kind of hints to
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some sort of liberal view but he
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never accidentally espouses a conservative
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view. And I find that
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something amazing. John
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Fetterman is more lucid
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and committed to
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his stated idolatry than
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our most lucid and smartest
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most aggressive articulate conservative
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media figure adheres
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to his stated
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ideology. It's
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a Jeremiah 2 moment.
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the gunk of this fake movement. So
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God continues. Oh,
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heavens be astonished about this and storm.
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Become very desolate, says the Lord, for
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my people have committed two evils. They
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have forsaken me, the spring of living water
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is to dig for themselves cisterns, broken
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cisterns that do not hold water.
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And that's what
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it is. You just put yourself into things
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that prima facie
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are failing. Show me the results. Where
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are we better off on a single issue?
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And verse 19,
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your evil will chastise you and
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your backslidings will reprove you.
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And you shall know and see that your forsaking the Lord
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your God is evil and bitter. And
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fear of me was not upon you, says the Lord, God
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of hosts.
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How do you say I have
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not been defiled?
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I have not gone after the bale.
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See your way in the valley, know what
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you have done,
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like a swift young camel clinging
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to our ways.
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And folks, just one more point
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I wanna start with. Verse 27,
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they say to the wood, you are my father
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and to the stone, you bore us.
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Met the thwomp, for
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they turned to me, their nape and neck.
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not their face. And at the time of their
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misfortune, they say, arise and save
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us.
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Now where are your gods that you
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have made for yourself? Let them get
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up if they will save you at the time
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of your misfortune. For as many
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as your cities were your gods, O Judea.
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And I could pretty much end there.
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And you know what I'm talking about. But I'll get
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into the specifics.
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Again, I want to make it clear. I
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don't care if you're like,
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you're in conservative media like, oh my gosh, this
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is where it's at. Everyone's been bought off.
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I'm scared. Oh my gosh, I don't want
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to I want to be part of the group.
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And I'm gonna I'm gonna endorse Trump. I
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don't care. That
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is so small
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of a factor in the scheme of things. As
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I've said so many times.
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If we had a movement
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working every second
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on the down the ballot primaries, particularly
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on the governors
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and the state legislative sessions, and
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Congress and the McCarthy fight and all that
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stuff.
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It wouldn't even matter.
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You want to support Trump, he supports the Sanders.
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This guy wants to support the the new
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Rama Swamp guy that came out of nowhere,
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very strategically.
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Whatever it doesn't matter if
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we're legitimate and honest to each other
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about what we believe and are consistent
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in that.
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In fact, many of us were hoping
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and thought
17:34
that great, this is the time that we get
17:37
attention everyone is vying for our vote.
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So everyone's gonna run to the right and you know,
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we're in good shape. Let the best man
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win.
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But that only presupposes
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that we believe in something and they're gonna pander
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to those beliefs. But what
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if we or at least the people with the loudest
17:56
voices perceived as representing
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our side in this country?
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country
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don't believe in anything. Other
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than groupiness, click servitism
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with a CK and a QU,
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a
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click,
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the groupiness, and just, I
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want
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my career,
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I don't care about outcomes. Well
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then that's a different story.
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Then you get the primary we have now, where
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there is no truth, nothing
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matters.
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You could have a man that promotes Disney,
18:28
dumps on the boycott of Bud Light, dumps
18:31
on the heartbeat bill even in a red state,
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promotes Bruce Jenner, the original
18:36
groomer, argues against
18:38
bathroom bills. Even
18:42
on the issues he's good like we saw with Ukraine with
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Maria Bartiromo yesterday, all over
18:46
the place sounds retarded. Literally
18:52
gets up there and says the vaccine
18:54
saved millions of lives at
18:56
a time when that's such a big issue and
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it is all good. Doesn't
19:03
draw even the gentlest and mildest
19:06
rebuke or at least the reaffirmation
19:08
from these people, well look, to be clear
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I don't agree with that, we need to fight it, but you know I still
19:12
like Trump for whatever reason. I don't care,
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I'd be fine with that. But
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it's this full lockdown, look I
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expected
19:22
when DeSantis announced he'd run I expected
19:24
guys to sit in the background like be like
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oh they're both good like not wanting
19:29
to take a side even though it's very clear. And
19:33
obviously the real like the more decrepit
19:36
half would side with Trump, but
19:38
what I did not expect
19:40
is that it's not just a decrepit but all
19:43
of them and to this degree that
19:45
everything this man does, no
19:47
matter how egregious on policy, demeanor,
19:50
behavior, bearing false witness, associations,
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it is all good. You could
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duck out of the debates
19:58
and it is all... good
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things you wouldn't tolerate for anyone else it
20:03
is all good and then
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conversely the man
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that there is no one probably in
20:11
a century who has done that degree
20:14
in a state and I don't care
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me you know you want to say that maybe should wait to 2028 I'm
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not so into him I'd still rather
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Trump I'm fine with that I don't
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care
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but what we all agreed upon until a
20:28
few months ago these are stated
20:30
beliefs is that that was the paradigm
20:33
that we need every other governor to be held up
20:35
to so we actually get get stuff
20:37
done
20:39
now he is trash
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he is may as well be Bob Dole
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that my friends is a problem
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not just because of the lies
20:51
you're telling about Trump and DeSantis but
20:53
what that portends
20:55
going forward
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even if the two of them
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cease to exist
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so let's let's go through some of this
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let's start with Tucker
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and the reason Tucker is so important is because
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he's being touted as
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let's face it he is being
21:15
groomed to be the heir of
21:17
Trump now whether that means he might they
21:19
will one day might run for president or not
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I'm not necessarily saying that that's true
21:24
but whether he does or not that's immaterial that
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he is going to be the undisputed kind
21:29
of maybe rush limbot is hey day but maybe
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even more
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that he is go whatever he says
21:36
is like the gold standard of what we
21:38
should believe
21:39
and care about what he cares about
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is what we should care about what he doesn't care about
21:44
is that a sight out of mind okay
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and it's already like that but that's that's clearly
21:49
what's happening so
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this man's behavior needs to be
21:53
vetted and scrutinized if he
21:55
is going to be what represents us
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and
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The behavior that took place,
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you know, I was warning you last week,
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I was starting to get the feeling like there's something
22:09
not right with him. I noticed a pattern
22:12
of things. And by the
22:14
way, mind you, we had, there's endless texts
22:17
and quotes that are now because of the Dominion
22:19
lawsuits that Tucker
22:22
saying that Trump is
22:24
autistic, he's retarded, he doesn't
22:26
know anything, he's a demonic force, he's a dark
22:28
force. Everything
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you and I know to be true, he
22:33
knew and espoused privately
22:35
and knows to this day.
22:38
And
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yet,
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what he has orchestrated is a clear
22:44
pattern of appalling
22:46
behavior that taken together is designed
22:49
to perfectly screw DeSantis,
22:52
perfectly elevate Trump, meaning the
22:55
other candidates that are non-Trump
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and DeSantis, it's very strategic who
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he gives a hard time, who he does it in a way
23:02
that
23:05
will get the outcome that is the most
23:07
beneficial to his career. He
23:09
wants to make sure, see this thing, he
23:11
wants to support Trump despite
23:13
everything he knows because he thinks
23:16
he's reading the tea leaves and in his mind,
23:18
it's most likely Trump's going to win the primary, it's
23:20
most likely he'll lose the general. And
23:23
therefore, Tucker is slated to inherit
23:25
his base. So why alienate
23:28
any of his supporters and told
23:30
that? That's clearly the calculus.
23:33
Again, we, you and I are never the calculus.
23:36
It's always someone's career. Never
23:38
forget that. If you earn more than a certain amount
23:41
of money in this business, inevitably
23:43
that becomes, whether they admit it to themselves
23:45
or not, that becomes their primary focus.
23:49
So that's where Tucker is
23:51
coming from. Now,
23:54
again, I don't care. Despite everything you
23:56
said, you want to endorse it and support it,
23:59
but it's this no- that it's all
24:01
good.
24:04
So this man is like, yeah, I grilled
24:06
the candidates.
24:08
Let's talk about Iowa. I grilled the candidates.
24:12
Now, most of them,
24:14
actually pretty much all except for one, which
24:16
is DeSantis, he actually really didn't.
24:18
And that's fine, he was very friendly, and you
24:20
know, you want to have a chilled
24:21
out, sit down, let them talk. I have
24:23
no problem with that, but it's funny that the grillers, Tucker,
24:26
I hear all this, Tucker took it to the next level.
24:28
Like you look at the questions, there
24:30
was nothing novel there. It's weird.
24:32
You listen to one of my interviews, it's much
24:35
more hard-hitting, even with a friendly.
24:38
But it's weird, but okay, but
24:41
it's fine. I mean, I don't expect that, but
24:43
don't lie about what you're doing.
24:46
But then there was one man who didn't show
24:49
up, the most important
24:51
person, meaning if you believe the primary
24:53
is basically over and he's gonna win. So
24:56
all the more so, he is a hundred times
24:58
more relevant than anyone else. Even
25:01
the biggest idol worshipper of Trump, if
25:03
you call yourself America first, sovereignty,
25:06
you know,
25:07
new right,
25:09
based, in any way,
25:12
you have to concede there are certain critical
25:14
things that are very concerning about his behavior,
25:16
his
25:17
consistency, his focus, his ideology
25:20
on certain issues,
25:22
his ability to have personnel the right people
25:24
around him,
25:25
the fact that it's basically either Laura Loomer or
25:27
Lindsey Graham. There's no sane
25:30
based people around him. They're
25:32
either establishment or, if you want to call them
25:34
based, they're loony
25:37
and belong in a mental institute or morally
25:39
corrupt. There
25:41
are some important questions that need to be
25:43
asked of him.
25:45
And not just asked in an interview, but in
25:48
a setting,
25:49
in an early state,
25:51
that's like a forum with other candidates there.
25:58
Now, typically in this industry,
26:00
People's support for a candidate is defined
26:03
by whether they kissed their ring. Not whether
26:05
it's the right thing to do, but whether they kissed their ring.
26:07
But in this case, so strong
26:09
is the idolatry of Trump.
26:12
That Trump could piss and shirk
26:14
Tucker himself, who
26:16
the last couple weeks has basically endorsed
26:19
him and he still doesn't show up and
26:21
Tucker has not a word to say. And
26:24
then his supporters, you had this Congresswoman
26:26
Luna at the toilet paper USA and
26:28
then Kerry Lake has been saying this all over the
26:30
place. These
26:32
cowardly candidates like Chris Christie, who
26:35
didn't show up. Chris Christie is irrelevant.
26:38
Your man didn't show up. There's no self-awareness
26:41
or perhaps there is. They're
26:44
so up his ass that they think the rules
26:46
don't apply to him. And
26:49
they literally all got up there. All
26:51
these commentators.
26:53
Mr. Trump is very busy.
26:55
He had a conflict of schedule.
26:59
Yeah, there's no evidence he did. That's first of all, it's
27:01
made up. But three days
27:03
ago, his senior adviser, Jason Miller
27:05
said, quote, he is unlikely,
27:08
unquote,
27:09
to come to any of the debates. So
27:13
you can't speculate made up excuses
27:16
for not showing up to the Tucker summit
27:19
because you have to view it
27:21
in the broader context
27:23
of what he clearly said that he is not coming.
27:26
So at the same time, they say, oh, we had a
27:28
conflict. But then they also
27:31
hint to, well, he's way ahead. This was an opportunity
27:33
to not overwhelm the event
27:35
and allow other people. What are you talking about?
27:39
Nothing says populism like I am owed
27:41
the nomination. And I don't
27:43
have to stand before the people side by side
27:46
with other candidates and debate.
27:49
That should be I don't care where you
27:51
are on
27:52
the spectrum. That should be unacceptable.
27:56
At least gently say, hey, Trump, you would have done
27:58
great. We wish he could have been. there. Come
28:01
on, you should come.
28:03
Even gently nothing. You
28:06
know, some people are saying was a big mistake for him not
28:09
to come and it would be a mistake not to come
28:11
to the real debates. Actually,
28:13
I think Jason Miller, his senior advisor
28:15
is right. If I were advising him, it's
28:19
douchebaggery.
28:21
But pure advice, I'd
28:23
say you're right.
28:25
Because he only has what to lose
28:27
from it not to gain politically.
28:30
And now
28:31
the rub against it is yeah, but whatever
28:34
you would gain by not having DeSantis
28:36
have an opportunity to get the better
28:38
of you would be washed away that you're going
28:40
to be slaughtered for the cowardice
28:43
of not showing up.
28:44
But no, what my colleagues
28:46
in this business have demonstrated is
28:49
they are so bankrupt, they
28:51
will all cover for him. He could not show
28:53
up to a single debate and be like, that was a smart
28:56
move. You know,
28:58
he allowed the other candidates to have
29:00
some time.
29:02
There is nothing this man could
29:04
do that
29:05
will draw even mild
29:08
rebuke. It's worse than it's ever been even
29:10
the last eight years. Generally, when he
29:12
get off message, we have you know, at least certain number
29:14
of people like hey, come on, come on Trump, you know,
29:17
that's ridiculous.
29:18
Now it is on complete
29:20
lockdown. It's worse than ever.
29:25
So that's the first
29:27
thing.
29:29
And by the way, it's like it's worse than Jeremiah
29:31
two. See, back then it was like you
29:33
talk to a stone that doesn't answer you here,
29:36
your idol does talk to you
29:39
and says contrary to the
29:42
very premise
29:43
of why you freakin worship him. And
29:46
yet you still worship him.
29:48
What the hell? All
29:53
right, you know,
29:54
I promised myself, I
29:56
can't make a promise because I'm on the verge
29:58
of breaking it but I won't say words that
30:00
my wife wouldn't want to hear. We'll
30:04
try to get through the rest without that.
30:08
So that's a pretty big moment,
30:10
that in itself, but I'm not done yet. You put
30:12
it all together.
30:14
Now, if you notice that Tucker just
30:17
grilled the candidates,
30:19
no he didn't.
30:21
He strategically, the only
30:23
ones he had a heavy discussion with
30:26
were the two most irrelevant
30:28
ones,
30:29
which is Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson.
30:33
Mike Pence on Ukraine
30:36
was already fully out in the open.
30:38
Tucker didn't expose anything more.
30:41
Mike Pence to his credit is very open
30:43
about that. There was nothing exposed.
30:46
So there was nothing new, there was no new ground
30:48
plowed there
30:49
and Asa Hutchinson,
30:51
they finished their debate that they had two
30:53
years ago over the trainee stuff. Everyone knows
30:55
that and more importantly the two of them are irrelevant.
30:58
They're not going anywhere.
31:00
You start getting to Nikki,
31:02
he was a little bit more friendly too. She's
31:04
a now she's not going anywhere,
31:07
but she's playing the game like where
31:09
is Asa and
31:10
Pence are directly against Trump. So
31:13
Nikki's playing a little bit of a soft double
31:15
game. Now, she's irrelevant, but
31:17
the idea is to have her chip away a few
31:20
points from DeSantis, but
31:22
even more so is Tim Scott who
31:24
got even more softballs and Scott
31:27
made a fool out of himself.
31:30
He looked like a complete clown,
31:34
but Scott again, he's not going anywhere either,
31:37
but he's viewed as if you don't know his
31:39
record,
31:40
like you know some conservatives who want to move on from
31:42
Trump might, you know, again siphon off a few
31:44
more points.
31:45
Nothing
31:46
and then Vivek was just like, oh
31:48
my gosh, Slobberfest, no
31:51
questions about his past, his
31:53
pimping mass and social distancing
31:56
in the vaccines, especially given his biomedical
31:58
background with his company. He's pushing such
32:01
bad surveillance
32:03
technology that even our government didn't accept
32:05
it. He was an advisor to Mike DeWine.
32:08
It's like being an advisor to Hitler during the Third
32:10
Reich. That's the equivalent of being an advisor
32:12
to Mike DeWine on COVID
32:15
during the Fourth Reich. The worst Republican governor.
32:18
No questions.
32:21
And he got to do his whole like, he's kind of like
32:23
a Barack Obama, this hopey
32:25
change. Oh, I'm going to go into a D plus 50
32:28
district, South
32:30
Chicago, the Bronx, and I'm going to
32:32
convert people.
32:34
That's why he was so vehemently against national
32:37
divorce, because he's building a brand
32:39
off of, I'm going to go into like the
32:42
hardcore Democrat areas and debate. See,
32:45
if you're trying to win and do something and
32:47
actually change civilization, we're
32:49
struggling to get to the 50 yard line. You
32:51
could barely win a national election. The notion
32:53
you're going to win at the 90, 95 is absurd, nor
32:57
do we need to do it. It's so not cost
32:59
efficient.
33:00
I'll never forget, by the way,
33:03
where I live. So
33:05
I mean, I don't live in the district, but nearby one of the Baltimore
33:08
area districts is
33:10
you had this woman two cycles ago running Kimberly
33:13
Klychik.
33:14
And she was like a black conservative,
33:17
and she would like walk down the street, like
33:19
in high heels and say, yeah,
33:22
like why are you guys voting Democrat? And they and
33:24
it went viral. And she got tons of
33:27
money, because that's what click servatism
33:29
is. There
33:30
was nothing behind it, by the way, was a typical kind
33:32
of like Trump fake fakeness, no
33:35
substance, but it was like, yeah, the black conservative
33:37
type of thing.
33:38
And
33:39
all my colleagues were in mourning
33:41
when she literally,
33:43
typically, the Republican nominee
33:46
in that district gets like, I want to say 33%.
33:50
And she literally did not move it one digit,
33:53
whatever it was. And
33:55
I could have told them that it's just like, has nothing
33:57
to do with, oh, you run a black female candidate,
33:59
whatever. That's how they vote and you're
34:01
just not gonna change that. You're just, I mean,
34:03
it's a waste of time. I
34:05
mean, that's why we need national divorce. People don't realize
34:08
like, yeah, I know it's not very like hope
34:10
and changey and soaring rhetoric.
34:13
Oh no, we don't give up on
34:15
an inch of America. Like, but that's
34:18
bull crap and you know it. But that's,
34:20
but if you're trying to build a brand
34:23
and become a grifter, then
34:25
it's a great shtick.
34:27
And all these conservative media, he is
34:30
unanimously, oh, he's the best thing
34:32
because they don't wanna look like they're just promoting Trump.
34:35
So the comedic relief now is
34:37
praise Vivek, praise RFK
34:40
in order to distract and suck out oxygen
34:42
from DeSantis and help Trump. See,
34:45
what's fundamentally dishonest about this whole Vivek
34:47
love fest is if you take, see,
34:50
we know he's a fraud, but if you believe
34:52
in what he's saying face value, he's
34:54
articulate, he's smart, he's specific,
34:56
he's saying everything we want, he's
34:59
very telegenic and
35:02
on paper sounds like he actually could appeal
35:04
to young people. So then why wouldn't you vote
35:07
for Vivek over
35:08
Trump?
35:10
See, ask them that question. Whenever you find
35:12
a Trump or sitting and promoting Vivek, so
35:14
vote for Vivek. He's
35:16
much more electable, doesn't have all the scandals,
35:19
hasn't turned people off.
35:22
He's not abrasive, he's
35:24
just the opposite. And
35:27
on paper, I actually think he would appeal to
35:29
people. Think if he ever got in there, he'd be a fraud,
35:32
but
35:33
if you don't believe what I believe,
35:36
then in their paradigm,
35:39
if you care about winning an election, they
35:42
are openly saying he is more consistently
35:45
conservative and based than Trump,
35:48
he is more articulate.
35:49
I mean, that's obvious. I mean, Trump sounds
35:51
like Federman. He's
35:53
fresh, he's new, he's young.
35:57
Why wouldn't you support Vivek? The answer
35:59
is it's a fraud.
35:59
It's all a setup
36:02
to promote Trump.
36:04
It's a complete lie. So
36:07
that's why Tucker slobbered all
36:09
over him. Then he gets
36:12
to DeSantis. And I
36:14
want to make it very clear, a couple things. Except
36:18
for one thing I'm going to mention where he bore
36:20
false witness and lied. I didn't
36:22
mind the interview. I thought it was great. And I
36:25
think it could have even been more intense. And
36:27
I think that's what needs to be demanded of everyone,
36:29
including Mitt the Tomp.
36:33
But if Trump actually came, he wouldn't have done it.
36:36
To start saying, like, now, typically,
36:39
an affable interview,
36:42
the way you would do it, and Tucker's
36:44
style, what he's known for, would
36:46
be something like this. Generally very
36:48
friendly, just let the guy talk, what do you
36:50
bow, what makes you tick. But then you have
36:53
one question that's like kind of the typical
36:56
flip-flop thing. Well, wait, you're a candidate, you say
36:58
this, but then now you're saying that,
37:00
which one is it?
37:02
And you would have strategically picked one
37:04
for each one.
37:05
For example, and this would have
37:07
been so on brand with Tim Scott.
37:10
And by the way, Tucker
37:12
has crushed him before when
37:14
he wasn't a foil for Trump. He
37:17
crushed him on the criminal justice deform and
37:20
Floyd. And Tim Scott
37:22
has the nerve to get up there and say criminals
37:24
should be locked up when his whole career
37:27
has been working with how Kim Jeffries and
37:29
the most radical jailbreak organizations
37:32
on that. That would have been so on brand
37:34
for Tucker, didn't ask him.
37:38
Vivek,
37:39
the question would have been, very
37:42
simply, you
37:45
know, you now say
37:47
all this, all the mandates were bad and this is bad, but you are all
37:49
into masks. He
37:51
was very obnoxious about it, by the way, months,
37:54
years after the truth was known, saying
37:56
why are conservatives opposed to masks? wouldn't
38:01
ask him about that. In
38:03
fact, COVID was never brought up
38:05
one time.
38:07
Okay, starts off right
38:10
away and hits him with, would you sign
38:12
a
38:12
heartbeat bill as president? So right away
38:15
giving him like, now,
38:16
and he answered beautifully. But
38:19
I'm just saying like, that is a tough question, because we
38:22
are taking on water politically. There
38:25
is a question about doing it nationally, whatever,
38:27
you know, if
38:28
it you know, the cost benefit analysis, I'm not giving
38:30
an opinion on it. I'm just saying, right away, you give
38:32
him a heavy question. But that that's, that's legit.
38:35
And I want to make it clear, I am not whining.
38:37
I actually think DeSantis came out and had a good
38:39
weekend in Iowa.
38:41
But my point, my point is,
38:44
I'm not about DeSantis. I
38:46
think he had a good weekend did well. And I think it served
38:48
him well. I
38:51
mean, he's not still in a precarious situation.
38:54
But he's better off than he was before. I think
38:57
it really resonated in Iowa. And
38:59
I think he was the star of the show, despite
39:01
the conservative media pimping Vivek. And
39:05
everyone, everyone agrees to that.
39:09
My problem is what this portends
39:11
for the future.
39:14
So then he goes on to Ukraine.
39:16
Now,
39:18
there has been this myth that has been perpetuated
39:21
all along. What happens now is,
39:23
and I want to give a little bit of an introduction
39:25
to this. I
39:28
started seeing these people like Laura loomer putting
39:31
out terrible things about DeSantis out of nowhere.
39:33
And this Alex Bruce, which I never heard of him. And
39:37
I never I ignored it, because I know I
39:39
didn't feel it is fair to
39:41
tag Trump supporters with Laura loomer.
39:44
She is
39:45
unstable, needs, you know, help,
39:48
you know, has issues. And, you know, it's fine.
39:51
You can't have some random person on Twitter, you know,
39:54
somehow defining Trump
39:57
people. And I feel that's very unfair.
39:59
over time, I started noticing
40:02
that
40:03
a good number of the stuff she was putting
40:05
out, it
40:06
started filtering in to more
40:08
so-called mainstream conservative voices
40:11
and some level. And they start
40:13
saying things that are just wrong. Like I'll
40:15
get an email, Daniel, why is Paul
40:18
Ryan supporting Ron DeSantis?
40:19
I'm like, what
40:21
the hell are you talking about? But you repeat
40:24
a lie so many times, it becomes
40:26
true. By the way, it's not just that Trump
40:28
supported everything from Paul Ryan
40:31
while DeSantis co-founded the
40:33
Freedom Caucus as a reaction
40:35
to Paul Ryan. I want to give you a story
40:38
that I don't think I've ever
40:40
said before, but
40:42
it just will demonstrate how severe this
40:45
bearing a false witness is and
40:47
how disgusting it is.
40:50
So
40:51
you go back 2014,
40:55
2015, my relationship with DeSantis in Congress
40:58
was kind of similar to what my relationship
41:00
is with someone like an Andy Biggs, a Chip Roy,
41:02
a Dan Bishop, Thomas Massey,
41:06
where I'd constantly try to text them and
41:08
be in touch like, hey, this is going down,
41:11
what are we going to do about this legislative strategy? And
41:14
I worked very hard in it was
41:17
a Christmas break of 2014 going to 2015 to get rid of
41:21
John Boehner. In fact, during that two
41:23
week where everyone takes off, I didn't
41:25
stop working. I worked harder than ever. So
41:27
working the phones, trying to call. So
41:30
inevitably, you know, who would
41:32
I call a guy like Ron DeSantis? He was
41:35
congressman at the time to get
41:37
rid of, you know, to join the fight.
41:41
And Ron at the time and no one's this
41:43
is not public and I'm gonna make it public.
41:46
Ron at the time and I don't remember if it was
41:48
a call or a text.
41:51
And he said
41:53
to me, he said, Daniel, there's something
41:56
you're missing.
41:57
And he did not join the fight. And here's why.
41:59
He
42:01
said, John Boehner, this is already four
42:03
years into him, he said he's been so repudiated,
42:06
nobody in the conference has respect for
42:08
him. He's kind of a dead man walking.
42:11
He says, whereas if you get rid of him,
42:14
at the end of the day, we could complain
42:17
about Boehner all we want, but Boehner
42:19
is a mere reflection of the conference,
42:22
which sucks. Like, the
42:24
problem with the Republican Party is the Republican Party. And that's
42:26
why he ultimately left Congress. He
42:29
felt you can get nothing done there. And he wanted
42:31
to be his own man as an executive in Florida. And
42:33
it was the right decision, right? It was
42:35
one of the best decisions ever made, that
42:37
he took that risk, he could have a safe district,
42:39
he could have stayed in there forever. But what
42:42
was the purpose?
42:44
He's like,
42:45
you're just gonna get another one. And who are
42:47
you gonna get? He said,
42:48
I promise you, you're gonna get Paul Ryan.
42:51
And he said, and now everyone's a big hero.
42:53
Oh, Paul Ryan's hero. But back then,
42:56
oh,
42:56
every all the Jim Jordans of
42:58
the world, they would slobber over him. So
43:00
he would be able to enact
43:02
the bad stuff with much more
43:05
political gravitas and political
43:08
capital. And he was like, I'm telling you,
43:10
but you know, I was so into the importance
43:12
of getting rid of Boehner, I still like I didn't take it to
43:14
heart. Well, you know, we actually failed
43:17
and we didn't get rid of Boehner. But a couple
43:19
months later, it reached a boiling point,
43:21
and he was pushed out without even a vote.
43:24
And guess what happened?
43:25
Paul Ryan became speaker.
43:27
And he was right. And I just bring
43:29
that up to say because all
43:31
these people are like, you know, maybe
43:34
because there's one or two donors that also donated
43:36
to Paul Ryan, but that's inevitable. So
43:39
somehow, you know, oh, like
43:41
this guy opposed them before it was cool.
43:44
When years later, Trump till the
43:46
very last day of Paul Ryan speakership
43:49
affirmed everything he did. And there's a whole
43:51
montage of all the praise. He actually
43:53
said Paul Ryan is like wine, it grows
43:56
on you. But
43:58
but again, facts don't.
43:59
matter. That's my problem.
44:02
It's a fact-free zone.
44:05
It doesn't freaking matter.
44:08
It doesn't matter.
44:10
So
44:11
anyway, they've been perpetuating
44:14
this lie that DeSantis
44:16
is kind of wishy-washy on
44:18
Ukraine. He's flip-flopped. He's
44:21
gone back. He's really a neocon.
44:23
He needs to clarify his position. And then
44:26
all the sheep
44:28
in Animal Farm. So the chant
44:31
went down to all these voices. And
44:36
I asked him, I was like, when did
44:38
he ever go back? I never heard that.
44:42
So what happened was they created this false
44:44
premise that he was really a neocon
44:47
and then put out the base
44:49
statement saying it's just a territorial dispute
44:52
over ethnically Russian areas that we really
44:54
can't hold and shouldn't get involved with. It's not in our national
44:57
interest. But then
44:59
he went back on it.
45:01
And in reality, anyone who knows
45:03
him,
45:05
he was one of the earlier voices
45:08
among the more Reagan conservatives,
45:11
as opposed to like Iran-Paul or really
45:13
a Democrat that became a Republican, more
45:16
of a traditional conservative that started moving away
45:18
from this business. And he was like, we cannot
45:20
referee these Sunni Shia things. And as
45:23
he said many times, he said at Tucker's Forum,
45:25
he says as a soldier, he was literally
45:27
the only one who of the candidates, he
45:30
was in Anbar Province, this
45:32
whole, you know, refereeing Sunni
45:34
Shias in the worst time. He was there like,
45:37
it was really bad. He was there during
45:39
the worst times. So
45:42
he's like, I learned that like this whole thing
45:44
is a boondoggle. And it's
45:46
the same thing here that you have. We're trying
45:48
to have the Ukrainians hold Crimea
45:51
and Donuts. That's why often he'll spell out
45:53
if you notice, he'll spell out those two specifically,
45:56
because they're Russian ethnic areas
45:58
and you're just professional.
45:59
the same. His
46:01
his his position
46:03
has been abundantly clear. Like,
46:06
well, he doesn't talk about enough. Well, every town
46:08
hall he's asked about it. And he
46:10
said there's a bunch of clips.
46:12
Right. But okay, but they perpetuated
46:15
this lie. So they all start repeating
46:17
it.
46:19
Now what happened? What happened was
46:22
he he
46:24
was asked
46:26
the neocons went nuts when he
46:28
said that. So the neocons said he's
46:31
pro Putin.
46:32
So DeSantis just said in the Piers
46:34
Morgan interview, he's like, No, I'm not
46:36
pro pro
46:37
Putin. I think he's a war criminal. But
46:41
again, that's it. Nonetheless, it doesn't negate.
46:44
Yeah, I think he's a bit now. Honestly,
46:47
the more I think about Ukraine, I actually
46:49
think he's he's almost justified
46:51
in what he did. I actually disagree with that
46:53
statement. But be it as a may that
46:56
does not negate the fact that yeah,
46:59
he's a bad dude, but it's not in our
47:01
interest.
47:03
Tucker goes
47:05
up to DeSantis and says,
47:08
Hey, you know, so on the one hand, you said that's
47:10
not in our interest. But then on the other hand,
47:14
you said Putin's a war criminal.
47:16
And it really is in our national interest. He
47:19
added on a second clause, meaning
47:21
this one thing that you
47:23
kind of like use a different word to paraphrase
47:25
someone. But here you can't mistaken it.
47:27
And Tucker was always very good about that.
47:30
He added on a
47:31
statement that did not exist. And
47:34
I'm telling you, coupled with all these other observations
47:37
that is coming from and headed
47:39
to a very dark place.
47:42
And look, DeSantis very gently said, Well, the second
47:45
half I never said, and he gave a
47:47
very coherent statement on what
47:49
sort of statecraft he would use to
47:52
pressure a piece.
47:54
Trump, of course, the next day with
47:56
Maria Bartiromo says this retarded thing
47:58
that I'm gonna threaten to arm.
48:00
Zelensky Moore and how
48:02
that's gonna force Putin
48:04
so he sounds like Lindsey Graham but that's not even the
48:06
point the point is he said Zelensky
48:08
is an honorable man who has said a lot of good things
48:11
about me. Tucker himself
48:13
has recognized
48:16
that flattery is one of his biggest
48:18
weaknesses. That is a huge
48:21
problem both national security for
48:23
like you know everyone around the world but domestically
48:26
with the Democrats and left they know
48:29
how to flatter him and that's how they got him
48:31
to pass the first step act which Tucker
48:33
claims to have opposed. This
48:36
is what I can't handle
48:39
and of course nothing no questions
48:41
Trump needs to clarify his position nothing
48:44
and then he was asked about what you would do about the
48:46
weaponization of the FBI like he's literally
48:49
indicted this
48:50
is his issue and he starts
48:52
talking about
48:54
the real estate the building of
48:56
the FBI
48:57
like yeah some people wanted to move it out some people
48:59
that's
49:00
what I'm saying even now he
49:02
sounds retarded
49:05
and none of my colleagues will demand any clarification
49:09
and again if you think he's a fait accompli
49:11
all the more so he is
49:14
the most relevant candidate that needs
49:16
to be held to the highest standard
49:20
that's what bothers me
49:22
again I I don't I don't
49:24
mind a rigorous
49:27
interview of DeSantis I think he could have made it
49:29
more rigorous frankly and
49:31
brought out more nuance I would have liked him to press
49:33
him on
49:34
you know the the prep act and things
49:36
like that
49:38
but don't lie
49:39
there are certain rules we don't believe
49:42
in
49:43
bearing false witness and
49:45
that really was dirty
49:47
because he snuck it in and
49:50
that made all the difference and he knows it
49:54
click servatism you're
49:58
either popular or you you're not.
50:02
What matters now is whether you are in
50:04
with the right click, not whether you fight for
50:06
the right things.
50:08
So you could be Bruce Jenner, but
50:10
if you saddle up to Trump, you're great. You
50:13
could have done the greatest things for us, but if you don't, you're
50:16
dirt.
50:17
And you need to be dehumanized. I'm
50:20
telling you at this pace,
50:23
in another couple weeks,
50:24
the mainstream legacy fake conservative
50:27
talkers at the top 50 of the iTunes
50:29
charts
50:31
will
50:32
begin pushing this
50:34
Laura Loomer,
50:35
Casey DeSantis faked her cancer. I'm
50:37
just waiting for that. I'm
50:41
waiting for that.
50:43
But this is the thing. It's like now suddenly
50:45
Kim Reynolds is dirt. But
50:49
Kristi Noem, who's backing Trump,
50:52
could screw us and that's fine. And
50:54
no one will use their clout to stand up for
50:56
the South Dakota landowners.
51:00
This is what bothers me. It's
51:04
disgusting.
51:09
And it's like the
51:11
other thing is Trump set out his
51:13
toilet paper USA speech. I'm
51:16
gonna defund
51:17
all schools that have vaccine mandates.
51:20
That issues are a that issues already over with,
51:22
but be
51:22
he was president.
51:25
And he you know, now you didn't
51:27
have the vaccines yet when he was president, but you
51:29
had parallel, which is even stronger. You
51:31
had the shutdown and he actually promised
51:34
in the summer
51:36
of 2020 to not fund the schools that were
51:39
shutting down. And
51:43
we begged him I wrote endless
51:44
columns. Not only did
51:46
he
51:47
not cut off funding in the regular appropriations
51:50
for the September CR in 2020, but
51:52
he then
51:54
signed 82 billion
51:57
in additional funding for K through 12 and Universities
52:01
plus another 5 billion discretionary
52:03
fund
52:04
for the
52:05
governors
52:07
rewarding them for the lockdown
52:09
and a lot of the money was to fund Zoom
52:11
school. It's not
52:13
just that, oh, he was president and he had
52:16
the opportunity to do it and didn't do it. He
52:18
did the opposite. And
52:20
this is not some retroactive oppo research
52:23
that, you know, Daniel is on Google
52:26
trying to find it. I lived it. I wrote
52:28
about it. I spoke about it. What
52:31
am I supposed to do? Erase
52:33
from my mind my legislative knowledge? There's
52:38
something about fighting almost
52:40
every major primary congressional,
52:42
senate, governor that matter.
52:45
Every budget bill, every important
52:47
piece of legislation, every important idea
52:49
over the last 15 years.
52:52
I have a long memory.
52:53
This is not even long ago.
52:56
Facts simply don't
52:59
matter.
53:00
If you're in with the cool kids, Andrew
53:02
Tate,
53:03
a disgusting pornographer, is
53:06
now, that was Tucker's first interview.
53:09
Because you find some quasi-cultural
53:11
dirtbag that says one thing critiquing
53:13
the elites that we like, and it's
53:15
like, boom, nothing matters. Because
53:18
we ourselves have no beliefs, so we
53:20
have to glum onto every piece of trash
53:23
that we find. That's
53:26
the state
53:27
of the conservative movement.
53:32
It's like, and again,
53:34
it's like facts don't matter with Trump. I
53:37
had this conversation with a friend of mine.
53:40
Medical freedom movement, by the way.
53:42
One of the big guys, and he's onto
53:45
RFK, but then funny, he admits to
53:47
me later, I'm concerned about his wife. I'm
53:49
like, yeah, no kidding. If he actually
53:51
were in a position of power, not just the head of
53:53
an NGO, he'd
53:55
be a lot more reluctant, and indeed, he actually
53:58
offered it on his own and said, to save the world. in a
54:00
conversation told me he'd take a sledgehammer
54:02
to the NIH. She said, I would do more of a scalpel.
54:06
He's not who you think he is. I'm not saying he's not an ally.
54:09
You could be an ally with people on an issue. I'm proud
54:11
to do it and I have.
54:12
And Children's Health Defense Fund has promoted
54:15
my work. It's fine, but don't
54:17
suddenly, see, when you have a movement,
54:20
you can work with an adjacent movement, but
54:22
we don't have a core. So we just
54:24
sell ourselves out to the next person. But
54:26
anyway,
54:27
then this guy's like, yeah, I'm not so into dissent,
54:29
I don't know. And then I was like, what
54:32
about Trump?
54:33
And then I finally did, and you know,
54:36
I say all these things, it's indefensible. He
54:38
can't defend his position.
54:39
Then he finally says, yeah, but you know what Daniel, who
54:41
cares anyway, it's more important that we fix
54:44
things down the ballot, like getting rid
54:46
of McCarthy and Rona McDaniel. And
54:48
I was like, are you
54:49
trolling me? Do you
54:51
know that Trump, at the moment
54:53
that they were teetering, we almost
54:55
got rid of both of them. He was
54:57
the decisive factor in keeping McCarthy
55:00
and McDaniel.
55:01
And he's like, oh, I didn't know that. Well,
55:04
Daniel, you know politics. I'm
55:07
not into politics. But I was like, what do you mean you're not
55:09
into politics? You know what the F you
55:11
wanna know.
55:12
If you're not into politics, who not
55:15
into politics knows who Rona McDaniel
55:17
is?
55:18
No, you wouldn't know
55:19
who she is and that she's a problem to conservatives.
55:22
You wouldn't know that.
55:24
The answer is you're a reflection
55:27
of what conservative media tells you
55:29
to know.
55:30
And that's how conservative media, my friends,
55:33
is subverting and rotting the core
55:35
of our people worse than the left. I respect
55:38
the left.
55:40
They fight for what they believe in.
55:42
We openly subvert.
55:44
We claim to know God and
55:47
then piss on him.
55:50
It's disgusting.
55:53
And always a day late dollar short. They're always
55:55
glumming onto the issues that we
55:57
hear we're fighting from day one, whether it's
55:59
COVID.
55:59
whether it's Ukraine, whether
56:02
it's the border, the fentanyl. I did
56:04
a whole series in 2017-2018 on
56:07
fentanyl was not an opioid crisis
56:09
like prescription, it was
56:11
a border jailbreak driven crisis. While
56:14
by the way the very commentators that
56:16
are now crying about fentanyl are the
56:18
ones that supported criminal justice to form.
56:21
Including by the way the one who ran
56:23
the toilet paper USA
56:26
meeting there
56:29
promoted criminal justice to form
56:32
and now suddenly it was all that that's the
56:35
the establishment DeSantis is establishing
56:37
DeSantis is fighting the Koch brothers
56:39
the only
56:40
one of all 50 governors
56:43
on crime
56:44
and you bought into it and
56:47
you bought and people that were neo-cons
56:50
until three minutes ago were pimping
56:52
Ukraine till three minutes ago by the way now it's like
56:54
oh DeSantis is not strong enough on
56:56
it.
56:57
What the hell?
56:59
And now Megyn Kelly is
57:02
somehow a rehabilitated voice. She
57:05
is the reason
57:06
she was the Tucker prime time spot
57:08
for a decade. She is the reason
57:11
last decade that we were so decrepit and
57:14
now she's like Fox News sucks. I
57:16
love all these people that made their career on Fox
57:19
all these guests and now that that
57:21
grift is over and there's a new like orbit
57:24
of MAGA grift so they've moved on
57:26
to that but it's the
57:27
same movement. And
57:29
that's my bottom line There's
57:33
nothing new about this How
57:36
do you think despite on paper most
57:39
conservatives being one way? Year
57:42
after year we elevated the
57:45
worst rhinos to the highest
57:47
honor of being the leader of the party and
57:49
the presidential nominee
57:50
Bush senior Bush junior
57:53
Dole McCain Romney
57:56
This is the same thing. There's nothing different.
57:58
It's just people
57:59
finally got old with the old demeanor,
58:02
so they came in with a new thing that,
58:05
you know, there's this whole thing that conservatives
58:08
have been passive and stupid,
58:10
we need to be aggressive. And again,
58:12
they take a valid point, but then they
58:15
miss the point. It's like the idiot who, you
58:17
know, looks at someone pointing to the moon, they focus
58:19
on the finger, rather than the moon. So
58:22
it's like,
58:23
to them the point is not, so you need to aggressively
58:25
defend your prerogatives and get outcomes. Like,
58:28
be nasty. Just like,
58:30
you're fat, you're ugly. Like
58:33
just say, so they now worship
58:36
like shock jock things, so you're
58:38
defined by, oh, if
58:40
you say like, yeah,
58:42
I grabbed the women and I like the whole Andrew
58:44
Tate thing, man, you know, like,
58:47
because it's all about cutting through taboos.
58:49
So you're not allowed to say things. But there's a difference
58:52
between you're not allowed to say the vaccine causes
58:54
death and we'll say the vaccines of bioweapon versus
58:57
like, okay, I'm going to break the decorum of
58:59
like, say, just
59:01
needlessly be
59:02
nasty to people.
59:04
Like, okay, what is a was that get
59:06
us, especially if you're horrible on policy
59:09
and outcomes. And be like,
59:11
is that a virtue is like, is that something that
59:13
we should now be happy with? It's
59:17
funny, you have all these unmarried philandering
59:20
and those are the ones who aren't homosexual people
59:23
throughout the Trump orbit. And when I say
59:25
that, I don't mean average people, I just want to
59:27
vote for the guy. I'm talking about these
59:29
grifters.
59:30
They're calling all of our people
59:33
homosexuals who are married with kids.
59:36
And it's the funniest thing. But
59:39
you know, that's the psychology behind that is obvious.
59:42
But this is my bottom line. This
59:45
is my bottom line. This
59:47
is not about the scientists, not even about Trump.
59:51
It's about if we don't affirmatively
59:54
have beliefs,
59:56
row in a boat towards a lighthouse of
59:58
what we want.
59:59
We're just gonna get fake reactionary
1:00:02
populism that comes in a full
1:00:05
circle like it always does in history. You
1:00:07
read Animal Farm and you land
1:00:09
in the same place. You are just
1:00:12
as decrepit and disgusting
1:00:15
as the people you claim to be fighting.
1:00:18
And you gain nothing.
1:00:20
Except that you yourself
1:00:23
are now okay
1:00:25
with that behavior because you
1:00:27
put your groupie stamp on it.
1:00:30
You make open borders great again.
1:00:33
You make homosexuality great again. You even
1:00:35
make tranny grooming Bruce Gender
1:00:37
great again.
1:00:39
It's all good!
1:00:41
As long as you stand for the right
1:00:43
cult,
1:00:44
it is all good. So
1:00:47
long as it's Metta Thwomp
1:00:49
who said it. Or the next iteration because
1:00:51
again it wasn't Metta Thwomp. It was
1:00:53
the same thing. We have to beat the Democrats so we need Bob
1:00:56
Dole. See, there's
1:00:58
a crisis of intellect. There's a crisis
1:01:01
of values and there's a crisis of energy
1:01:03
and initiative. There's laziness
1:01:05
among the conservative chattering class.
1:01:08
What they it's no different
1:01:10
back in the day. It was like, oh my gosh, we've got to beat
1:01:13
Bill Clinton. Let's just get the most well-known
1:01:15
name that has the money, Bob Dole.
1:01:18
No one wants to try to work for something.
1:01:21
Same thing in 2000. Oh my gosh, eight years
1:01:24
of Clinton. Let's just get a bush. Let's just get a bush.
1:01:27
It was the same thing again and again. Mitt Romney
1:01:30
is the next in line.
1:01:31
Trump is no he's the next in line.
1:01:33
He's owed it. He's the one with the name.
1:01:35
He already a little. We don't want any mess. And
1:01:37
he let's just nominate him.
1:01:40
They act like it's some sort of new based
1:01:43
reawakening. It's bull crap. It's the same old.
1:01:47
And it's going to continue happening
1:01:50
that we elevate the loudest voice. So
1:01:54
it will be the next person, Kerry Lake.
1:01:57
Oh, yeah, yeah, we need to move away from
1:01:59
the culture.
1:01:59
War but the media is terrible
1:02:02
and we're lecture was stolen
1:02:05
and then when it comes to policy it's like wait
1:02:08
what it's all good
1:02:11
it is all good you know I always
1:02:14
love this VVV thing I'm not a politician
1:02:16
I hate that line dude if you're
1:02:18
running you're a politician stop the lie the
1:02:21
worst are the ones that never were in office
1:02:24
and don't have a clue like
1:02:26
the fake populace
1:02:27
the minute they're in there Kevin McCarthy
1:02:30
puts his arm around them and
1:02:32
is like oh we have the greatest spending cuts
1:02:34
ever and they're like oh really I'm gonna vote
1:02:36
for yes you're gonna vote for it
1:02:38
whereas the best guys are kind of like the
1:02:40
lawyer state legislatures that were
1:02:43
awesome in the legislature they come to Congress they
1:02:45
get the game
1:02:46
but you could officially call them oh you're a career politician
1:02:49
but that's bull that's
1:02:52
a superficial stupid point
1:02:55
when you elevate superficiality over
1:02:57
substance
1:02:58
this is what you get my friends and
1:03:01
that's just the way it is let
1:03:04
me know if you agree disagree Daniel Horowitz at start
1:03:06
mail calm always appreciate it we're
1:03:08
gonna get back to the issues tomorrow
1:03:10
because I'm pretty much burnt out from this so I'm
1:03:13
just gonna focus on what I could focus on and we'll
1:03:15
let the chips fall where they are till
1:03:18
then God bless y'all
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