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Hey listeners, it's Carter I am

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so excited to tell you about

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an incredible true crime podcast. The

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Just Wrapped Up. It's the latest

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season, the podcast is called Stolen

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and this season host Connie Walker

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travels to the Navajo Nation to

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investigate the case of to missing

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women. She even in bed with

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the police and family searching for

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them and in the process she

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uncovers ways in which these two

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women stories might be connected and.

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Why the line between missing and

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murdered his often so difficult to

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prove. We've. Been fascinated with

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this story and I know you obsess

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over this podcast as much as we

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have. Will share the first

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episode here. Now if you enjoy

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it, make sure to check out

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the entire season and past seasons

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on Spotify or wherever you get

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your podcasts. This

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episode contains descriptions of violence

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please take care while listening.

1:06

Joanne. Be gay was trying to fall

1:08

asleep. It was

1:10

the middle of the night on June Fifteenth.

1:12

Twenty Twenty One. She. Was home

1:14

alone in her small house in a remote

1:16

corner of the Navajo Nation. Suddenly,

1:19

Joanne was startled by a loud

1:21

sound coming from the front door.

1:24

It. Sounded like someone was trying to get in.

1:28

She ran to hide a moment

1:30

before hearing her door being kicked

1:32

open. Then.

1:35

A. Man walked into her house. Every

1:39

time I hear this story I can

1:42

help put myself in Joanne shoes. This

1:44

is one of my worst fears. Being.

1:47

Woken in the middle of the night by an

1:49

intruder. Would. Happen next

1:52

Change Joanne life. And.

1:54

The life of her family. Some

1:56

of the details are still a mystery,

1:58

but here's what I. In able to

2:00

piece together. Joanne

2:03

was afraid. She listened in the

2:06

darkness as the man walks through

2:08

her kitchen and started rummaging through

2:10

her cupboards. Shared

2:13

a soda can crack open and the.

2:15

Man take a long step. After

2:18

he finished it, he twisted the cap off a

2:21

bottle of gate or ate and drank that to.

2:24

So am was hiding in her room,

2:27

terrified the man would find her. I

2:31

don't know how long see head but

2:33

eventually she heard him walk out of

2:35

the door. He kicked open. When

2:39

she felt it was safe she

2:41

looked out her window. She could

2:43

make out a man slight seeger

2:45

walking away. To

2:48

Emrys for her phone and call the police

2:51

for help. She told them

2:53

about the intruder. And

2:55

then she waited. And waited.

3:02

An hour later to land was

3:04

still waiting. When she heard a

3:06

sound from the house next door. For

3:09

her mother Ella made the gay

3:11

lived. It

3:13

was around three thirty in the morning

3:15

and her mother's track had just started

3:18

up. She wants to pull out of

3:20

the yard, through the metal gate and

3:22

off down the red dirt road. I

3:27

would her mom. Be leaving in the middle of the

3:29

night. Joanne

3:34

called her mom for down. There

3:36

was no answer. She texted nothing.

3:40

To call the police again And twenty

3:42

minutes later, this finally so that. That

3:45

it was too late. Allah

3:48

made the gay was gone. And

3:51

was never seen again. I'm

3:57

Connie Walker from thoughtfully.

4:01

Dolan Trouble in Sweetwater.

4:17

Catholic with her comeback.

4:24

This is home of our may

4:26

be gave her house is a

4:28

long blue wouldn't rectangle on a

4:30

foundation of cinder block to sits

4:32

atop a stretch of dusty read

4:35

earth in Sweetwater Arizona. I

4:38

came here after hearing about enemies

4:40

disappearance. For nice Sarah

4:42

seen Warren is showing me around

4:44

yes this is suspicious A hogan.

4:46

Her husband and her son girl

4:48

and her her son in laws.

4:50

they help fill this. This

4:53

is my first time on the Navajo Nation.

4:56

In. Even though it's in the middle of the

4:58

United States, And. Surprised at how remote

5:00

it feel. The. Navajo

5:02

Nation is home to the dentist

5:04

people and it's the largest reservation

5:06

in the country. It

5:08

covers most of the northeast corner

5:10

of Arizona and dips into New

5:12

Mexico and Youtube. For. A

5:15

The landscape here feels

5:17

almost other worldly. This.

5:19

Vast stretches of desert and red

5:21

rock the seem to unspool in

5:23

every direction. It's

5:26

beautiful. Hello Eleanor! Live here!

5:29

On. Her norm: forty

5:31

one years old, For her for

5:33

your home. Is

5:37

the Chris sunny day in late

5:39

October? Twenty Twenty two. At this

5:41

point our may have been missing

5:43

for almost a year and a

5:45

half in. this is where she

5:47

disappeared. From. Thirteen

5:50

points out a small house about fifty

5:52

yards away. Her

5:56

arm daughter lives in the schoolhouse are here. Don't

6:01

have no clue about. I

6:04

can see the window Joanne would have looked

6:06

out of when she saw her mom's truck

6:09

driving away in the middle of the night.

6:13

On their trucks there. Are discovered that these

6:15

and and there's no there's evidence. Or

6:19

stepping on to Elements. Pretty,

6:21

it feels like we could

6:23

be stepping back in Time

6:25

aside, The houses are when see green

6:27

pickup. Truck in nearby pretender

6:29

a tree. Is a

6:31

Chevy Impala convertible. That looks

6:33

like a from the nineteen Sixty. So

6:36

this is my aunties classic car. I

6:40

remember her driving this before: whore, younger, Ella.

6:45

May with sixty two years old when

6:48

she went missing. She lived in Sweetwater

6:50

her whole life. But

6:52

she and other local call this

6:54

tiny community by it's another honing

6:56

possibly can. L.

6:58

M. A. mostly spoke Navajo. English

7:00

was her second language. Athena

7:04

photo of Allah May from the

7:06

local trading post. She's holding up

7:08

one of the pictorial rugs she

7:11

was known for, depicting traditional Navajo

7:13

life, farming family, and the desert

7:15

landscape. I've heard

7:18

Ella May was quiet and you can

7:20

almost see it in the photograph. see

7:22

small, only five feet tall with straight

7:24

brown hair. They graze a bit at

7:26

her temples. She's wearing

7:28

a pair of tinted glasses and not

7:31

looking directly into the camera lens. Elam

7:34

his family says she stayed close to

7:37

home. See. Only ever took

7:39

one trip to St. Louis when she

7:41

was a kid in an Indian boarding

7:43

school. She. Looked a

7:45

quiet life under the radar. Until.

7:48

She went missing. Since.

7:51

Then she's become one of the most

7:53

high profile cases of missing or murdered

7:55

indigenous women in the Us. Photos

7:58

of L A may have been said.

8:00

That these are times when social media

8:02

in stories about her have been in

8:04

People Magazine and The New York Times.

8:08

How. Did one woman's disappearance from

8:10

this isolated communities get so

8:12

much attention? It's. In

8:14

large part due to her nice Serafin. When.

8:18

I meet her at L Mais house. She's

8:20

wearing a hoodie with a red hand print

8:22

on it that says Unite The Missing. Justice.

8:25

For the murdered. I have to

8:27

be doing some for my aunt and order

8:29

for me to feel better she's been doing

8:32

would she can to help bring attention to

8:34

l Amazed case. She. Even walked

8:36

over two. Thousand miles from the

8:38

Navajo Nation to Washington D C.

8:41

to raise awareness about Allah. May.

8:44

She. Went through fifteen pairs of sneakers.

8:46

it took her almost four months.

8:49

This is not to sorry for my at. this

8:51

is for me, my kids, my family are still

8:53

doing it justice. I've reported on

8:56

missing and murdered indigenous people for years

8:58

in L A may have gotten the

9:00

level of attention I almost never see.

9:03

Not just because of thera things effort.

9:06

I think it's partly because in general

9:08

there's more attention being paid to stories

9:10

about indigenous people. But. I

9:12

also think it's because of who Ella

9:14

May is. The. First time

9:17

I saw her missing persons poster

9:19

I was immediately drawn in. Because

9:21

of her aides. Or. Implicit

9:24

vulnerability. I

9:26

look at her and see the elders in

9:28

my life who live alone in our communities.

9:30

The thought of someone coming to their door

9:32

in the middle of the night? Shook.

9:35

Me: Seemed almost

9:37

unfathomable. The mystery

9:39

of her disappearance, the lot of

9:41

answers compelled me to come here

9:43

to try to find out what

9:45

happened to L. May be gay.

9:49

Surfing tells me there's a five

9:52

thousand dollar reward for information about

9:54

L Mais case. But. She

9:56

doesn't think it's going to make a difference. Money

9:59

is that gonna? Get anybody

10:01

to talk here. Know. They

10:04

probably do want the money. They just want to

10:07

know that there's nothing. Be retaliation. I

10:10

think that there will be more leads coming in, as

10:12

if they had a lot of confidence in our police

10:14

officers if they were to call and city minister here.

10:17

But A no three Four hours. From

10:20

his be dead and. They

10:22

know they know enough reason why nobody's up coming

10:24

forward. It seems like Sarah

10:26

seen as say that even if someone

10:28

here knows something that could help solve

10:31

elements case, he might be afraid to

10:33

say it. Sweetwater.

10:35

Is forty five minutes from the nearest

10:37

police station and the night. Ella me

10:39

went missing. It. Took them an hour

10:41

and a half and two phone calls. To

10:43

respond. With has

10:46

any neighbors of the there anything know

10:48

I think office already have been. Lose

10:51

Anything. That somebody is. Guess how?

10:53

he heard you know something? Answer

10:55

seems says there are other reasons why

10:58

people don't. Want. To come forward. I

11:01

don't say anything because they're inside of

11:03

their houses. Not a condition to be

11:05

have anybody live in in some of

11:07

these houses and didn't want to be

11:09

questions so. Just to see them from

11:11

more questioning in their that Kentucky

11:13

to school opened. A door been be like

11:15

we don't know anything. I

11:18

remember the start of the pandemic. reading

11:20

about how hard the Navajo Nation was

11:22

hit by. Cole Said. The. High

11:25

death toll was in part due to

11:27

lack of infrastructure. Basic. Things

11:29

many of us take for granted are

11:31

not be given him. One

11:33

in three people living on the Navajo

11:35

Nation don't have indoor plumbing. I

11:38

can see power. Lines in the distance, but

11:40

they don't reach L amazed. Something.

11:43

Tells me that L M A

11:45

lives here without running water or

11:47

electricity for forty years. She.

11:50

Had just installed a solar panel

11:52

months before she went missing. I.

11:55

Grew up using an oil lamp. We.

11:57

Had one oil lamp I think. We.

11:59

Have five. Over it. My. Mom's

12:01

we've been or my homework. You.

12:03

Know we gotta make a decision.

12:06

What's more important? Girl. Pick

12:08

A is the oldest of elements three

12:10

kids. He. Lives in Denver now. Do.

12:13

You remember when you found out your mom was missing?

12:15

You. Know my first instinct is what

12:17

do you mean she's missing? She doesn't

12:20

just go missing, She just doesn't go

12:22

leave and not say anything. Gerald

12:24

remembers the last time he talked

12:26

to his mom just three days

12:28

before she disappeared. That.

12:30

Saturday I talk to her. Saturday.

12:33

Night. Just like a normal conversation

12:35

we've had before asking about the

12:37

kids. You know about the weather,

12:40

how it is up here versus

12:42

down there. You know

12:44

she same fine. After

12:46

her husband died and her children

12:48

moved out, Allah May lives here

12:51

alone. Did. Your

12:53

mom feel safe. By herself,

12:55

at home, I

12:57

don't I don't think she felt safe

13:00

and a house honestly because. She.

13:02

Has a security door. On.

13:05

Installed. And then on

13:07

the inside of the house. She.

13:09

Has this board dislike and. Three.

13:12

Quarter and supply word or particle

13:14

board that she slides in front

13:17

of the door. After the

13:19

doors locked. So.

13:21

That just tells me that I don't

13:23

think she felt safe because. That's.

13:26

Barricade and herself. And

13:28

the home. His. Mom put plywood

13:30

in front of her door at night. We've.

13:33

Heard that she wouldn't drive after. Dark the

13:35

she slept with pepper spray by her

13:37

bed. She. Was careful and

13:39

aware. This. Is not just

13:41

some person that was out there

13:44

asking for trouble or making trouble.

13:46

You. Know. When. He got the call

13:48

that his mom was missing. Gerald.

13:50

Got in his car and drove to Sweetwater.

13:53

I got their Wednesday morning. He

13:55

says it almost immediately. He was

13:58

concerned. With the way police were handled. The

14:00

investigation. And I'd I

14:02

pull them aside. we talk, they updated

14:04

me what was going on and stuff.

14:07

The Navajo Police are the largest tribal

14:10

police force in North. America. They.

14:12

Have jurisdiction over the entire

14:15

Navajo Nation or twenty seven

14:17

thousand square miles. Sweetwater.

14:20

Where L M A lives is

14:22

in the Zebra District in. Their

14:24

officers responded to the call about

14:26

her disappearance. And. I was

14:28

frustrated and mad at same time because

14:30

when I learned at the the two

14:33

officers that showed up. Leaving.

14:35

Leaving the scene without com making contact,

14:37

a phone call, a pickup truck, or

14:40

my mom. That piss me off. When.

14:42

To Navajo Nation Police officers responded

14:45

that night it wasn't immediately clear

14:47

to them that Ella Me was

14:49

missing or that a crime had

14:51

been committed. So. Dell says

14:53

they didn't stay salon. That.

14:56

He wonders if they had with things have

14:58

been different. You. Know that they

15:00

could have stuck around for an extra

15:02

hour to the some. Could a team

15:04

of you know they sit of take

15:06

that off, locked the door, or have

15:09

a officer on sites that could have

15:11

potentially help solve something. But.

15:13

Nope. Police

15:15

didn't return into later that morning

15:18

after her family called them again.

15:21

They had gone into L M S Health

15:23

and saw that her purse and wallet had

15:25

been left behind. This

15:27

is when the search for Lm A

15:30

truly began. Seven hours after her truck

15:32

and drove off in the middle of

15:34

the night, Her

15:36

family believes crucial time was

15:38

last that setback the investigation and

15:41

strains their relationship with the

15:43

police and the very start. You

15:45

know that fly To this day I can't

15:47

stand she wrote Police Department. As

15:51

news about L amazed disappearance began

15:53

to spread, the picture of what

15:55

may have happened to her. Became

15:58

clearer and clearer. Because

16:02

of their miss trust the police. The

16:04

day after L M A went missing

16:06

her family started. Trying to piece

16:08

things together on their own. beginning.

16:11

With a break in a dylan's head. And

16:15

so what it says they happened that night. She said

16:17

she was the Santa go to sleep. She woke up

16:19

the man. Or door that kicked open. I

16:23

that Sarah seen about this because Joanne

16:25

didn't want to be interviewed. She said

16:27

she's been struggling with what happened to

16:29

her mom and it was too difficult

16:31

to talk about. To.

16:33

Land whole the family she didn't know who

16:35

broke into her house. The. First

16:37

clue they danced about who it

16:40

might be was from L M.

16:42

A sister Cecilia, Curly and her

16:44

boyfriend Leonard Tolls. They.

16:46

Were all gathered at Elements House.

16:49

When. Leonard said something about his

16:51

son Preston that surprise them. When

16:54

they came by his dad Preston's that

16:56

said, a Navajo that it better not

16:58

be Preston and what I expected. Preston

17:01

told his leonard's twenty two year old

17:03

son. He was new

17:05

to Sweetwater. Most of our my family

17:07

had never even heard of him. Leonard.

17:10

Told them that Preston had come to

17:12

stay with him and Cecilia to the

17:14

couple of weeks earlier. And

17:17

that one girl, right? Well where is he

17:19

missed? What were their? If he were have been.

17:22

Because. He was nowhere to be found

17:24

at that point where you are betting person?

17:26

No no we didn't We didn't really suspect

17:29

it was pressed the we're just trying to

17:31

find him. Leonard. And

17:33

Cecilia said the last time they

17:35

had seen Preston was a few

17:37

hours before Allah may disappear. They

17:41

had gone with Preston to do laundry

17:43

and towns to sit. Preston was drinking

17:45

and under drive home. He started fighting

17:47

with his dad. When.

17:50

He turned physical they kicked Preston out

17:52

of the vehicles and left him. When.

17:59

I travel. Sweetwater. I got lost

18:01

on the way. A. Maze

18:03

of unmarked dirt roads lead to L

18:05

a Maze house but you kinda have

18:07

to know where you're going. The.

18:10

Odds that someone would just happened upon

18:12

it seem low. Leonard.

18:14

And Cecilia said they left Preston on

18:17

the side of the road at night,

18:19

about eleven miles from L A Maze

18:21

House. If he was new to

18:23

the area, How. Could he have ended

18:25

up their. Presidents.

18:28

Dad is a handyman type of

18:31

guy. Supposedly saw him and his

18:33

dad at six or repaired. The.

18:36

Door on my mom's house. This

18:38

was two weeks before and and

18:40

I think this the first time

18:42

he's met my mom. Didn't

18:46

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profile picture is a cell see. If

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you told me he was in high

20:36

school, I believe his face is young.

20:38

His dark hair is tucked under a

20:41

backwards baseball caps and he's wearing an

20:43

unsafe to blue hoodie and a surplus

20:45

underneath. Like he's trying. To sell off

20:47

his stomach. He has kind

20:49

of a goofy expression on his face. It's

20:52

hard to square this image with what I

20:55

learned when I looked up his criminal record.

20:58

Preston has been arrested more than a

21:00

dozen times and has been in and

21:02

out of jail for most of his

21:04

adult life. He's. Been

21:06

charged with burglary, aggravated

21:08

battery, damaging property, and

21:11

assaults. In.

21:13

The days following elements

21:15

disappearance, police conducted interviews

21:17

and started receiving reports.

21:20

That. Preston had been seen driving had

21:22

think. That he.

21:25

Says for nothing. elderly Navajo woman.

21:28

Please. Have now identified a person of interest

21:30

in the disappearance: a sixty two year old

21:32

Ella, the gay who tonight in in. Two.

21:36

Days after Ella May went missing. Class.

21:38

And was named a person of interest in

21:40

her disappearance. And

21:42

later that same day. Navajo.

21:45

Police arrested Preston. Not

21:48

for anything related to element. But.

21:50

For violating his probation. In.

21:55

Missing persons cases. Every day,

21:57

every hour, every minute counts.

22:00

In trying to find that person alive.

22:02

With Preston in custody Lm his

22:04

family was hopeful that they could

22:07

find her before it was too

22:09

late. Area.

22:24

After visiting L a maze house thera seen

22:26

took me on a tour. Of sweetwater.

22:29

When. Elements Truck Laughter Health the night

22:32

she disappeared. It would have travelled on

22:34

one of these dirt road. Or

22:39

area. Therapy

22:44

points out the window. There isn't

22:46

much out here. Except for

22:49

some wild horses grazing on whatever they can

22:51

find in the. There

22:53

are mountains in the distance, but all around

22:55

us is open desert. Rid

23:07

of Somebody. Evidence Somebody.

23:11

From where. After

23:19

Preston was arrested, elements family waited

23:22

for news from police, but they

23:24

also kept looking for her. Off

23:28

for road. It

23:32

was summer and on some days the

23:35

temperatures soar to over a hundred degrees.

23:38

They never found L. A man

23:40

with surfing says they did find

23:42

something that they thought could be

23:44

related to her disappearance. Of

23:48

is that where my as a

23:50

list of that will pick Mellon

23:52

that was surfing points out a

23:54

small mountain in the distant way

23:56

out there they came across the

23:58

tower and. Apparently.

24:22

You seen see me. Other

24:24

researchers focused heavily on this

24:26

area because police told her

24:28

that's where they were looking.

24:31

After talking to Preston. All.

24:34

Over there this get her to lose it. He

24:37

dropped my aunt us. Over

24:39

here in this area said the.

24:41

Police. Ever Tell you work where they think

24:44

the truck ended up. The

24:46

Well when they played eyes

24:48

asking for investigator I'm he

24:50

said that he. Got

24:53

rid of the in Albuquerque is what he

24:55

said with Christmas told them I guess. That's

24:58

not all Preston told them. I

25:01

would find out that police had

25:03

more evidence pointing depressants than the

25:05

family even realized, and they had

25:07

it soon after Ella May disappeared.

25:12

Police. Found Preston's close Assert pants

25:15

and underwear all with blood on

25:17

them. in an interview with law

25:19

enforcement. Preston said he was with

25:22

our me that night. That

25:24

he drove with her in her trunk. He

25:27

said they had a site and that he

25:29

snapped. He told them he

25:32

lost control and hit ella made

25:34

multiple times in the sense. And

25:37

that he dropped her off on the side

25:39

of the road somewhere in Sweetwater. He

25:41

said she appeared to be unconscious, and

25:43

that he might have hit her harder

25:45

than he intended. Ultimately,

25:48

press and said that Ella

25:50

May was probably dead when

25:52

he left her. Despite.

25:57

All this. Pressure.

26:00

Why didn't cards in L a maze

26:02

disappearance? Of. They tell us where

26:04

is the continue ongoing investigation and we

26:06

can't announce anything to the public. I

26:09

think this is the damn excuse that

26:11

they follow and they don't do nothing.

26:17

I came here hoping to. Find out what

26:19

happened to our may be gay

26:21

but now I also wanna know

26:23

what happened with her case. Why

26:25

does it take police so long

26:27

to respond? The night our May

26:29

went missing. And. Wiser

26:31

disappearance still unsolved with

26:33

everything that press and

26:36

told investigators. This

26:39

season on stolen trouble in

26:41

Sweetwater. as a person

26:43

lock on the rug over there and sitting

26:45

guess of as the some his we have

26:47

tested with that he also said. In

26:51

his he wants to try to help find her.

26:54

Investigating l A Maze

26:56

disappearance. Leads me

26:58

to a tangled web of

27:01

violence in retaliation across generations.

27:04

People go missing over there all

27:06

the time and the cops are

27:09

not doing nothing about it for

27:11

people. Feel the only way to

27:13

get justice is to take matters

27:15

into their own. How we ended in

27:17

pursuit found in her own at this

27:19

point As you sure who are with

27:22

be goes the don't Little Sam Sam

27:24

is her a like I know who

27:26

did it. And I could easily go over

27:28

there and just get rid of him. around.

27:30

here is the as he gets it that

27:32

we go places where people don't wanna go.

27:35

To jail with you do with his human skull.

27:38

People know using the away with.

27:40

Murder up there. Stolen

27:48

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