On Episode 4: Makers, hosts Massiel Bobadilla and Justina Martino have a conversation with Alejandra and Luis Magana of Echeri Ceramics. Alejandra and Luis discuss what it's like to run a business with your spouse, how Echeri was born, and how their personal and ancestral histories inform their ceramic wares. We also chat about the importance of purchasing from local makers and we each share a few of our favorites. The makers and small businesses mentioned in this episode include: Echeri Ceramics (echericeramics.com), Cru Chocolate (cruchocolate.com), Electric Sun Creatives (electricsuncreatives.com), Lindsey M Dillon Ceramics (lindseymdillon.com), URB APOTHECARY (urbapothecary.com), Pachamama Coffee (pachamamacoffee.com), SUPERFUN (superfun.space), Tula in Bloom (tulainbloom.com), Merry Mack (merrymackinblack.com), and Meg Myers Glass (megmyersglass.com).