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Hey

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everybody, welcome back to Cooperstuff.

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Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you

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had an awesome day, hopefully

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with your family, with the people you love.

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For those of you who had to work through Thanksgiving,

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God bless you. I had the day off

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and I'm back to work now too. That's just the way it goes.

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But I hope you had a great time with the people you love.

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It is Black Friday,

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as you know. We're announcing a

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sale on the book and on Cooperstuff.

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I'm going to tell you all about that in a second. I also

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want to give you some personal

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thoughts. I've got a lot of things that,

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to me, there's a lot in my mind

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that has come out in the last week that

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I think is really important. It's maybe

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to do with the book, my thoughts on things.

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We're going to get into that and I really want to share that.

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I think that we are, in

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some ways, things are maybe worse than I even

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knew. Is that fair to say? I think it's fair to say.

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Let's jump straight in to Cooperstuff. I think what

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I want to do is tell you about the book sale. So

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for the people who don't want to sit here and hear me chat

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and you don't care what I have to say or don't have

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time to hear me about the culture and

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the thoughts about the book, we'll get that out

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of the way. Here we go. It's

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Black Friday. For the next few days until

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Monday, we are running free shipping

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on my brand new book. Here's what it looks like.

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Wimpy, Weak, and Woke. Yes,

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the title alone is triggering

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the nation apparently. It's quite

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bizarre, but it's really

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good. You're going to love the book. So what

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you got to do, you go to johnlcooper.com.

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You use the code WWW23. 23 stands

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for the year. See

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how that works? You're going to get free shipping

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not only on the book, but you're going to get free shipping

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on anything in the Cooperstuff

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store. So go do that. I

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got to give you a few other things just so you know though

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because I want to make sure that people

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understand what's up. We are.

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selling the hardcover on there

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now as well. Hardcovers however

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are limited edition. They're probably

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going to be gone within the next 10 to 14 days. So if you

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want a hardcover you

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need to go do it because we're not going to be printing more. They were

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always going to be limited edition. I think it's only a couple of

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thousand if I remember. So go do

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that and they are available now on their

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own. Alright. Secondly,

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if you want the book for Christmas, you

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want to get it as a gift for somebody for Christmas and

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spoiler alert you do want to get it as

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a gift for somebody especially

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people that are like hey

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I don't understand what's happening in culture. Why

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is this stuff happening? This is insane. How

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can I push back? What can we do to create

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a positive vision for the future?

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Then you need to get this book for that person. Maybe it's

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a parent. Maybe it's somebody in college. Maybe

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it's somebody that's getting ready to go to college and they don't understand

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what in the world is going on. You need to do that. If

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you want to get that for Christmas, you need

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to order it sooner than later because the

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downside of self-publishing is

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that you can't always get everything done as

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quickly as you want to. There's not the machine. In

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other words, we have limited qualities. We're still

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printing them so don't not get it

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but if you want it guaranteed for Christmas, I really

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think it would be best if you would go.

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If you're planning on getting it anyway, you should do it sooner than

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later. That's what I'm saying. Go and

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get the book. www23

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is the code you need to get for free

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shipping. It's a good deal. Now

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let's move on. I want to tell you a little bit about

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the book but before I tell you about

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the book, I want to tell you about some of the pushback

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that I'm getting. It's really

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important you guys and I think that

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it's very telling. I'm

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not going to be all hyper negative but I got

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a lot of negative things to say. Why don't I tell you the

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positive first? Here's the positive

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thing. I believe

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with all my heart that

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God wants people

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to come to Him. I believe that

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God does not want to see civilization. civilizations

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destroyed. I believe God

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wants to do revival in America. I

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believe that. I believe God wants to do revival all

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around the earth. I believe

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God wants the gospel message,

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the good news that Jesus, the

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Son of God, came

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to earth, died on a cross, rose

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from the dead, ascended

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to heaven, is at the right hand of the Father, and

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forgives us for our sins and made away

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so that I can have a relationship

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with God, that I am no longer

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separated from God. My sin is not

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keeping me away from God.

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I want that message to go out. I believe

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God wants that message to go out. And here's

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what I believe. I believe if the church

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was to act like the church and

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live holy, let me

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tell you exactly what I mean when I say that, because I don't

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know about you. I am awfully tired of hearing

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people on the internet just say cryptic

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things like, say what you mean. I don't know what you

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mean, which is why I say

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things so clearly, by the way. I don't think you're helping

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people when you give all these cryptic messages.

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You may seem nice, and maybe it would

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seem nicer than Cooper subseems

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because there's a whole thing going around we're talking about that

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I'm super mean, and John's yelling

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at people. I just don't think it's nice not

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to say what you mean. I can't stand it. So

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let's not be cryptic. What do I mean when I say the church be

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the church? I mean

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we are supposed to be salt and light.

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What is salt and light? Salt and light doesn't mean that

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you're just Mr. Nice Pants all the time. Everywhere

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we go people are like, oh they're so bubbly

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and friendly and there's like bubbles and rainbows.

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That's not what salt and light means. Salt

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has to do with holiness. That means

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that God's people care about

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holiness. That's

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what it means. Being sanctified. Living

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like Jesus. Dealing with

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sin inside the church. Not

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compromising the faith. Not

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saying, yeah we have a church full of people.

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that are sexually immoral and it's not that

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big of a deal because that's how much we love people.

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That's not what the church is supposed to be. The

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church is supposed to have grace for

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people who are in sin. We are supposed to be

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a clarion call to those people to

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accept the gospel, but the gospel is

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a gospel of power. Whoo,

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hallelujah. It is a gospel of power

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that transforms your life. God

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gives you a brand new heart. God

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gives you a brand new nature. That nature

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now has a bent towards

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wanting to do righteous things. Before

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that nature, you had a sinful nature,

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which has a bent towards wanting to do unrighteous

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and sinful stuff, stuff that's evil. Well,

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the Holy Spirit comes inside of you. You

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give your life to Christ, you are saved. He

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gives you this new heart, this new nature.

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The Holy Spirit comes inside of you, sanctifies

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you, and now he gives

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me the desire and the power

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to live a holy life.

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Now we're not talking about perfectionism. I'm not saying

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you're never gonna sin again. I'm not saying

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you're never gonna want to sin again. I'm saying

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that you begin to have these new desires to

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please God and you want to obey

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God. And through the power

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of the Spirit, you have the ability to

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fight sin like you couldn't fight sin

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before. A church that

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is dead serious about holiness

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is going to, I believe, set

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the stage for true revival. Because,

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now I'm not saying we can make God

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do a revival. That's in the providence of God.

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All of that's true. But it is a

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prerequisite or a, it's

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like a precondition. When

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we look into history, into revivals, a precondition

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for revivals is a church that

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is talking about repentance and

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holiness because the gospel

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is a gospel of power. And if there's no

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power to transform your life, then

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there's something wrong with the gospel message.

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that is being preached. The Bible

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says it like this, that they have a form

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of religion, but denying its

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power. That's what the Bible says. A form

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of religion, which means a form of religion.

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What do I do? I get dressed up, I go to church, and

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I say all the right stuff, but it lacks

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the power. How do I know it lacks the power? Because

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the night before church and the night after

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church, I'm back watching pornography.

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I'm back at the clubs doing things I shouldn't

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be doing. I'm back stealing

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from my clients at your business or

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stealing from your employer or treating

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your wife terribly or whatever

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stuff you do that you know is sinful.

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You're back doing that stuff because

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your gospel lacks the power

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to recreate you. You see? So

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the positive is this. I think

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that we could see revival. I

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believe that the church would get serious about holiness.

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How do we know it's holy? Well, we have the Bible.

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We have the written Word of God. God tells us how to live.

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We read the Word of God. We apply it to our

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lives. That's how you do what is holy. That's

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how you please the Lord. Jesus Himself says,

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if you love me, keep my commandments.

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How do I know if I love God? Are you keeping His commandments?

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None of us loves God like we ought because

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all of us still sin. No

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perfect people. We need perfect

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people out there. No, no perfect people. So

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none of us loves God as we ought. But

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if you are walking with Jesus, then

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little by little by little, day by day,

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year by year, you look back and you go,

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oh, wow, I'm obeying Christ more

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now than I did last year, which

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means I am growing in my love

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for Jesus Christ. That's what

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we want. I believe that could happen.

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I believe that could happen in America in

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a culture that is so evil and

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loves wickedness and

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celebrates Satan kind of literally

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actually take the word kind of out

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of that literally.

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Literally,

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now praises Satan, praises

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evil things, praises dark things, praises

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evil things and calls them virtuous.

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Hello, like the prophet Isaiah says, what

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are those who call evil good and good evil? That's

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what it says in the book of Isaiah. That's the

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2020s, bro. That's what we're living in. I

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think God wants to do a change. I think

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God can do a change. I actually don't

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even think it would be that hard.

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We just need the church to live

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like the church. That's what it means to be salt. In

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case you don't know what that metaphor is when

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Jesus says you're the salt of the earth, what

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it has to do with is purification. You

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use salt to purify

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meat. You use salt to preserve meat, things

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like that. And so what he's saying is that

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the people of God are supposed to

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be in society sort of pushing

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back against the darkness, pushing back

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against evil, preserving the culture

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so it doesn't get as absolutely depraved

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as it could possibly be. In the 2020s,

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a large section of the evangelical church

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believes that salt is not

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about preserving the culture.

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They think that salt just means that we're

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supposed to taste super duper good to the world.

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Now, is there an element of the saltiness

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that we are supposed to be flavorful

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in society as well? I actually do

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think that that is a part of what

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our Lord means when he says that. I think

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if I've understood it correctly, and I don't

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think I'm the only one, I think this is

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historically accurate, I hope, from

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theologians, as I believe that

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Christ made it primarily to preserve

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salt to preserve, but also there's

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a secondary, but you're also meant there

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to be flavorful, to taste

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good. In other words, when people see

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the fruit of living for Jesus,

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some people are going to say that fruit tastes good,

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and I want to know where they got it from.

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That is evangelism. That is evangelism by

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showing you my good works, and some will

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say... That is from the Lord, right?

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That John and Corey have a great

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marriage. That fruit tastes good. Where does that come from?

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That is part of being salt. I believe

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that's a secondary meaning of that. But

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what the church has done in the 2020s is

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changed the definition of that good

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fruit. And it no longer means living

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a life and

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showing the world what true

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good fruit tastes like. It means being

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super nice to everybody, no matter how

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absolutely evil they are.

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Never mentioned the wickedness they're doing because

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then you won't taste salty to people. I

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think that's actually an inversion of what Christ meant.

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Moving on. That's the good news.

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That's the positive side. John, give me a positive

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message after Thanksgiving. That's

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the only positive message you're gonna get on this episode.

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Now let's jump into some

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of the things that I gotta be honest. I'm

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completely shocked at

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the level of vitriol

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that I am receiving over literally

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the title of my book. I

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did not see this coming. Number one, I am

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not complaining about the vitriol. Number two,

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I'm not saying, oh, people being so mean

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to me. Not in any way, not

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the point. I'm ready for whatever

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comes. I believe I've written a book

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that has a lot of truth in it. If people think

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that it's not, I invite them,

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as I always do, to send

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me a comment and tell me why you don't think it's true,

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why you disagree. Here's the reason

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I am so shocked. You

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guys, it's a title. Wimpy, weak,

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and woke. It's a title. People

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haven't even read the book, and they are freaking

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out. Let me tell you how dangerous

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this is. We have a society

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that literally cannot

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hear anything, or

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A, we ought to be able to hear something we disagree

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with without going full rage.

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We really should. We should

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be able to hear something we disagree with without

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going full rage, like

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going on and telling somebody to go blank

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themselves. You ought to be able to hear

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something you disagree with, but it's worse

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than that, you guys. It is worse than

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that. We're talking about a society

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that doesn't even know what

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I mean when I say wimpy, weak, and woke,

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and is going full rage, but

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it gets worse than that. A

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lot of these messages are from

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professing Christians, so we

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have a generation or

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a culture, maybe. I'm not sure

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if it's confided to a generation or

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if it's intergenerational. I don't know. A

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culture of Christians

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who do not know what I'm talking

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about, don't want to know what I'm

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talking about, but are so enraged

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at it that they have

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gone completely mad and delusional.

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How do I know they don't know what I'm talking about? Because

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there's almost no criticism about

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what I'm actually stating.

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If you remember,

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I saw people freaking out, jumping

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to conclusions about what I mean by wimpy, weak,

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and woke. So what do I do? I say, you know what?

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I'm going to give you, for free,

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the opening chapter of the book where I

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define what wimpy,

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what weak, and what woke means in the book, how

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I define it. So there will be no questions

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about what I mean. Then if

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you disagree, you can comment and say, I

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actually think that's wrong. This is why

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it hurts my feelings. This is why I think it's

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mean. This is why I think the Bible doesn't agree

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with you. Send me a comment. I

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invited that. Gave it out

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for free. Almost

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no one took advantage of it. On

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Instagram, I put it out and I said, hey, I

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know people are upset about the wimpy, weak, woke thing. I'm

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not really sure why. I wonder if they don't understand what I mean. All

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you got to do for free. Go listen.

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Send me a comment. If you disagree with me, let me know why. I'm

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curious. I had a grand total

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of... 47 comments,

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none of which are dealing with

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the actual meat of the

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issue. You know what that says to me? That

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says to me that we are

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at a time of mass

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hysteria, mass delusion,

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where people literally

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can't critically think. We've

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lost the ability to critically think and say, okay, I'm

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going to try to hear what you have to say, see

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if I can understand where you're coming from, then

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I can critically think about it and see if

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I disagree or if I agree. Instead,

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and again, I'm not complaining about this. What

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I'm saying is, is you guys, I actually

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think this book is way more relevant

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than I even thought it was because

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if Christians lose the ability to critically

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think and to make biblical arguments

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against something, then

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we're in a really bad place. I'm not suggesting

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that there are no biblical arguments about what I wrote.

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How arrogant would that be? There's probably some

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really good biblical arguments that

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say that I'm wrong. Send them to me.

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Send them to me. Maybe I'll learn something.

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Maybe I'll be like, that's actually a pretty good point.

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Maybe I should say that a little differently. I've done that

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a lot. That's

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got me actually more concerned

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than I thought I would. What are the criticisms?

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Here's the criticisms. Wimpy,

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weak, and woke. You're so mean. John, you

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don't even care about people with mental health issues anymore.

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What does mental health have to do with this

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book? Literally nothing. It

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literally has nothing to do with this book. The

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only thing that I can imagine is what they're saying

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is that somebody who is wrestling

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with mental health, which by the way, everybody

17:46

knows, I care deeply about.

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I would say if I have a place in my heart,

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a soft place in my heart for people,

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I would say

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the number

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one priority of mine. In

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my heart for people are people struggling

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with depression, loneliness, suicidal

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thoughts, suicidal ideation. That's

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my people. I love you. I have

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no idea why this book title, Wimpy, Weak

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and Woke, has anything to do with that. It's

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actually kind of like crazy. If

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you listen to the introduction chapter of

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my book, which I'm giving for free, all you

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got to do go to johnlcooper.com.

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You sign up on the mailing list. They're going to send

18:25

you a link. You can listen to it for free.

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You see the way that I define it. Being

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wimpy, weak and woke is not saying

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to somebody, you're a sissy. You're

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weak. Why are you such a wimpy person? That's

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not even what it's about. It's an ideology.

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It's a way of seeing the world.

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I start the book in chapter one, telling

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my own stories about how I have

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been wimpy, how I have

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been weak. In other words,

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it's not about you wimpy, you're a sissy.

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You're this. I'm saying, no, it's an ideology.

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It's a way of seeing the world that

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is actually harmful to yourself.

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I want you to not be wimpy, weak

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and woke. I want you to be strong

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and I want you to be courageous in

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the truth. I want you to love truth. I

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want you to abide in the truth. I

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want you to be strong. So I start

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my story. Let me give you an example of why

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I was weak. So you understand what I mean. Being

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weak in my definition, in

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the introduction that you can listen to for free,

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so you don't have to assume a whole bunch of things.

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It's a crazy time when people won't even listen to

19:31

something for free before. So

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they know what you mean before they begin

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to attack you for a thing. I

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don't know. Maybe I'm old school. In

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my generation, I always like to like, know

19:43

what it is I'm yelling about so that I don't look

19:45

like a complete idiot on the back

19:47

end. But

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hey, we're in the delusional 2020s.

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Here's what it means to be weak. In fact, let me just look it

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up in the book. I'll just read it here.

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Let's find this. Here we

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go. I'm reading straight from the book. page 18.

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It's in the introduction. I gave it out for

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free. Page 18. We

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have become... Notice, by the way, I didn't

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say you are. I said

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we have become... I'm talking about our culture. I'm

20:14

talking about the zeitgeist of what we're living in in

20:16

2020s. I'm giving a

20:18

cultural analysis. You

20:20

may disagree with that cultural analysis. You might

20:23

say, John, I think you're absolutely wrong. In fact,

20:25

I really hate your point of view. I hate

20:27

your worldview. That would actually be fine.

20:31

It's not enough to say, this is so mean,

20:33

Jesus would hate this. Expound,

20:35

honest to God. So notice, I say, we have

20:38

become, not you, we. It's

20:41

because I'm so inclusive and tolerant. You

20:43

see, we have become, number one,

20:46

weak. What does it mean to be weak? Am I saying you're

20:48

a sissy and you can't do any push-ups,

20:50

you lazy moron? No.

20:52

What do I mean when I say weak? Theologically

20:55

and philosophically, we have become weak. Hello.

20:58

We're

21:00

not using our brains. What does this mean? We

21:03

ought to recognize that these utopias

21:05

are false and antithetical to

21:07

the gospel. That's it. That's what I mean when I

21:09

say weak. Why do I say that John Cooper

21:11

was weak for a long time? I was weak because

21:15

I believed in Christ. I believed

21:17

in the Bible, but I still thought

21:19

that we didn't need to go to the Bible to answer

21:22

every little single thing on earth. It was like,

21:24

guys, come on. We're living on a planet. God

21:27

gave us a brain to use. Jesus

21:30

is not concerned with economics

21:32

and politics and how you raise your kids

21:35

or how you do discipline. He's not concerned

21:37

about those things. Quit being so overly

21:39

spiritual. I used to think a little bit

21:41

like that, not fully like that. I'm

21:45

being honest. I wasn't fully that way,

21:47

but I was enough that way I didn't

21:49

really go to the Bible to look for

21:51

Christ to meet literally my

21:54

every single need, my every single

21:56

question in life. I didn't do that. I

21:59

was weak. had a weak understanding

22:02

or maybe you might even say a low view of scripture

22:05

in that sense. You see? So

22:07

I was weak. I tell you my story. What

22:09

do I mean by wimpy? Am I saying you're

22:11

a wimp and you're pathetic and you're never going

22:13

to amount to anything you sissy. I hope your

22:15

mental health gets worse. No. I

22:18

say we have become wimpy by constantly

22:21

apologizing for God's character

22:24

and his word and by trying to make peace

22:26

with the world's philosophies. That's

22:28

it. Let me ask you a question.

22:31

If you disagree, send me a comment. Do

22:33

you kind of agree with that? Do

22:35

you think that it could possibly be true

22:38

that in general that the

22:40

Christian church in America

22:42

has become a little bit wimpy

22:44

and we kind of apologize for

22:47

God's character? I mean seriously.

22:50

Like I said, the number one most

22:52

famous pastor in America, Andy

22:54

Stanley. I'm sorry some of you guys go to Andy Stanley's church.

22:58

God bless you. We're not brothers in Christ. I

23:00

don't know Andy Stanley personally, but

23:03

I am criticizing this statement. There's

23:05

several statements actually. This statement

23:08

he makes, as I have told you, he

23:10

says we need to unhitch from

23:12

all things Old Testament because

23:16

the Old Testament is a stumbling block

23:18

to people coming to the faith. Why?

23:21

Because he says the God of the Old Testament is,

23:23

what's the word he uses? The God of the Old Testament

23:25

can be summed up by hatred

23:29

for enemies. But the New Testament,

23:31

actually I don't think he said the God of the Old Testament. I'm sorry.

23:34

I think what he said is the Old Testament can be summarized

23:37

by hatred for enemy, for God's enemies.

23:41

The New Testament can be summed up by saying

23:44

love for enemies. Guys, that's

23:46

a problem. In other words, be careful

23:48

of the Old Testament because that God kind

23:50

of hated people and he's kind of mean and

23:53

we have to apologize for a lot of that.

23:55

So instead of apologizing for it,

23:57

just say, yeah, yeah, we're unhitching. That

24:00

kind of sounds like not

24:03

right. It kind of sounds like

24:05

you're apologizing for God's character. I'm

24:07

not saying 80 Stanley's a wimp. I'm saying

24:09

that is a wimpy ideology.

24:12

And I say this is a way of seeing

24:15

the world that is wimpy, weak and woe. It's

24:17

weak because we're not using our brains to

24:19

understand that these things are against the gospel.

24:21

So we don't have a high enough view of scripture. So

24:23

we're thinking in a weak manner. We

24:26

are wimpy because we are apologizing

24:29

for the character of the living

24:32

God. Think about that.

24:35

I'm just going to tell you for my for my for

24:37

my you know for me. I

24:41

have enough of a fear of God. There's

24:44

a theologian Charles Hodge. I believe

24:46

that calls God's holiness. He calls God's holiness

24:50

the awful majestic holiness

24:52

of God because his holiness

24:54

is too awful to him. Imagine that's

24:57

how high he is and that's

24:59

how low we are. That's how

25:01

low we should see ourselves to come

25:04

into the presence of the awful

25:06

majestic holiness of God.

25:09

I've got too much of fear of God to start saying I'm going

25:12

to apologize for his holiness. Tell

25:14

me that we don't do that. The church is doing

25:16

that in every area. We

25:19

do it with sex and gender

25:21

with biblical sexuality. We do

25:23

it with the existence of hell. Hello.

25:28

We do it with when it comes to we do it comes

25:30

to everything. I don't even give the examples. I

25:32

think you know this. She

25:34

whiz that's what it means to be wimpy. It's

25:37

an it's a way of thinking. I'm not

25:39

attacking a person for being a pathetic

25:42

loser. I don't know why people would assume

25:44

that it's amazing to me. What

25:46

do I mean when I say woke this is the one people

25:49

have gone apoplectic. You're

25:51

using the word woken you have American flag. You're

25:53

a Christian nationalist that wants to. Somebody

25:58

actually was yelling. about that. So

26:00

I answered them on Insta,

26:04

actually on Jim Ledger's page, and

26:06

this person, I said, this isn't, this

26:08

book isn't even about politics. This is

26:10

not a political book. I know people

26:12

know that because people have read it, they've called me, tell

26:14

me am I wrong, if you've read the book, tell me

26:16

if I'm wrong, does it sound like a, like a political

26:19

book? Like in other words, is this a go Republican

26:21

Party book? No. Is this

26:23

a MAGA book? No. It talks

26:26

about political vision, but this is not like

26:28

about that. It's insane to me. So

26:31

I comment, I say, this book isn't even about

26:33

politics. There is some things about

26:35

political vision, but it's about morality.

26:37

It's a, about a political moral

26:40

vision of where we're going. The person replied

26:43

to me, oh, it, you use the

26:45

word woke and you have an American flag and

26:47

now you act like it isn't political. You're such an idiot.

26:50

It's absolutely insane. Anyway,

26:53

so what do I mean when I say woke? What people,

26:56

some people, well, being woke just means that

26:58

you love people. I'm woke, so I'm done. I'm never

27:00

listening to your music again. Well, I

27:02

get the definition of woke in the book, bro.

27:04

All you got to do is have enough,

27:08

a thick enough skin to hear

27:10

a word that you might not like

27:13

and to see the way that someone is defining

27:15

it before you lose your mind. So

27:18

what do I mean by woke? I say we

27:21

have become woke by

27:23

replacing biblical justice with critical

27:26

social justice that demands, listen

27:28

to this, that demands absolute justice

27:30

in the present. Meated by imperfect

27:33

people with limited knowledge in

27:35

a world that the Bible tells us will remain

27:37

imperfect until Christ returns. What

27:39

do I mean by absolute justice? This is the problem with

27:41

wokeness. Wokeness is

27:44

built on a presupposition of humanism

27:47

that mankind is possible of

27:49

reaching perfection and

27:51

bringing absolute justice to the world.

27:53

What is absolute justice? Absolute justice

27:56

means making all of the wrong things

27:58

right. Let me ask you

28:00

a question. Do you think that humans are

28:03

capable in our fallen nature

28:05

and our limited knowledge? Like

28:08

we don't know anything. The smartest

28:10

human being on planet has such limited

28:12

knowledge of all facts and

28:15

all knowledge and the mind

28:17

of God that the most intelligent

28:19

person in the world would never

28:21

be able to figure out how to bring

28:24

absolute justice to the planet. How

28:27

are you going to bring absolute justice and

28:29

fix what was broken with chateau

28:31

slavery? Seriously. How

28:35

are you going to do that? There's no way to do that.

28:37

How are you going to bring absolute, perfect

28:40

justice for what

28:42

the Nazis did to the Jews? There's

28:45

no way to do this. No one knows how

28:47

to do this. How are you going to bring absolute

28:50

justice to the person who

28:52

has been a victim of sexual abuse?

28:56

Then in his life, he gets so messed

28:58

up and he gets so confused, he

29:00

ends up taking that abuse out on

29:02

somebody else and abusing someone

29:04

else. On and on and on down

29:07

the train goes molestation,

29:09

abuse, sexual immorality, assault.

29:13

Who is going to bring absolute justice

29:16

to all of these things? No

29:18

one, if your kid

29:20

was murdered by somebody

29:23

who comes to your house and murders your kid and

29:27

you want absolute justice, well,

29:32

no matter what happens, let's

29:34

say that person gets convicted, goes to

29:36

jail forever, let's say that person

29:38

even gets the death penalty, whatever in your

29:41

mind justice would be. Are

29:44

you ever going to feel good

29:46

again? I

29:49

mean that literally. I

29:52

believe in healing. I believe that

29:54

Jesus Christ and the work of the Spirit

29:56

can put your life back together again. I

29:59

believe. of that. I'm talking about outside

30:02

of the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit.

30:05

What is going to bring perfect justice to your situation?

30:07

Because that person going to jail forever

30:11

probably doesn't actually make

30:14

you, it doesn't

30:16

make all the wrong things right. You

30:18

see what I'm saying? You say, well, there

30:20

needs to be justice. Okay. What

30:23

do you think could ever be done that's going to ever make

30:25

you feel like, oh good, now all the wrong things

30:27

are right. And now I feel pretty good. Now

30:29

we can move on with my life and things, things are

30:31

perfect. There's no such thing as justice,

30:34

full absolute justice in

30:37

this life. It, it

30:39

doesn't exist. That's

30:42

why we say that Jesus Christ is the only

30:44

perfect judge. He's

30:47

the one who is worthy to open the scrolls. He's

30:50

the only one. Sorry, not sorry.

30:53

That's what being woke is. I

30:56

realize other people have different definitions, but

30:58

it's not as if I've made up my own and

31:00

it's my own particular unique definition that

31:02

I'm using to confuse people. A lot

31:05

of people have this definition of what it means

31:07

to be woke. Wokeness

31:10

is an entire totalizing

31:12

worldview and it sets

31:15

everything up in life. You could call it a grand narrative.

31:17

That's what I talk about in my book. The postmoderns,

31:20

they don't like grand narratives. What's a grand narrative? A

31:22

grand narrative is

31:25

a way of explaining the

31:27

entire world and encapsulates every

31:29

aspect of life. And the postmoderns really

31:32

hate grand narratives. They're always yelling about grand narratives.

31:34

Why? Because Christianity is a, has

31:36

a grand narrative. What's Christianity's grand

31:38

narrative? There is a world created

31:41

by a God. He tells me who

31:43

I am, where I belong in

31:45

his world, how I am to

31:48

live in his world. What is moral? What is right and

31:50

wrong? What's the purpose of life? That's a grand

31:52

narrative. Wokeness has a grand narrative

31:54

as well. And it's grand narrative

31:56

is that every single thing at

31:59

total encapsulation, Congratulations a totalizing

32:02

ideology that there is

32:04

nothing in this world except

32:07

for power That's all there

32:09

is it is power Every

32:12

interaction power every

32:14

conversation with a person on the street. Hey, how's it going

32:16

down there? That is an exercise

32:18

of power You go to the gas station.

32:21

I want $20 on pump 3 and I want to stick

32:23

a gum That's an exercise of power.

32:26

Someone is getting their power stolen and

32:28

someone is victimizing someone

32:30

else Every you

32:33

wake up in the morning you make the coffee you're victimizing

32:36

someone somewhere is

32:39

literally that it is literally

32:41

that totalizing and Everything

32:44

is oppressors and oppressed. Let

32:46

me give you an example because you might be going. Okay, that's

32:48

abstract But I guess a this is what wokeness

32:50

does When I make coffee,

32:53

how am I how am I? Victimizing someone

32:55

else. Well, let me ask you a question. Are there people

32:57

in life that don't have coffee makers as nice as yours

33:00

What kind of coffee maker do you have? Is

33:03

it $30 coffee maker or do you have one of those

33:05

like rich people ones? It's like $100 or

33:08

I don't actually almost coffee makers are but I hope you

33:10

get my point Insert

33:13

dollar amount of how much a nice coffee

33:15

maker cost Oh, you have one of the cheap

33:17

ones or you have one of the nice ones because there's a lot

33:19

of people It can't afford the nice ones. So

33:21

how did you afford it because you stole

33:23

money from other people? That's literally

33:26

the way This works because it

33:28

is a mark see it is from Karl Marx.

33:30

Oh Well,

33:32

well you let's keep going let's keep

33:35

going how many let's

33:37

break you up into social groups by

33:39

color How many white people have the

33:41

expense of coffee makers and how many

33:44

people of color have the cheap coffee makers?

33:47

You see where we're going? Hello,

33:49

how many educated people have the expense of coffee

33:52

maker? How many have the cheap

33:54

one now? Let's keep moving on Okay, you

33:56

have a cheap coffee maker. Well, guess what? How

33:59

many people and? other countries can afford

34:01

a cheap coffee maker. It certainly

34:04

can't afford the expensive one, but they can't afford

34:06

the cheap one either, but you have the cheap

34:08

one. Why? Because you're wealthy because

34:10

you live in America. You live in a wealthy country. How

34:12

did you get wealthy? By stealing money from

34:14

other countries. It just goes

34:17

on and on and on and on. You get down to

34:19

the poorest person on planet

34:21

earth that can barely afford

34:23

to eat once a day or

34:26

once a week. And who are they oppressing,

34:28

John? Well they're oppressing the earth.

34:32

This is where all the climate environmentalism stuff

34:34

comes in. Everything

34:37

in life is oppressing someone.

34:40

The unwanted unborn child is

34:43

oppressing its own mother. If

34:45

the mother says, well, I don't want that child, then she has every

34:48

right to end the life of

34:50

the oppressor. That's the baby. Do

34:53

you see where this is going? Who's

34:55

oppressing the five-year-old little

34:58

Billy who says that he's actually little Sally?

35:01

Well, who's oppressing him? His parents

35:04

who say, no, you're not, you're a boy, you're

35:06

not a girl, you're a boy. Oppression.

35:09

And society who doesn't let him live

35:12

as Sally and give him an applause. All

35:14

of this is wrapped up into wokeness.

35:18

And all people have to do is go and get

35:20

my book and they're going to find out where all of it

35:22

comes from. Then you're going

35:24

to be the smartest person in every single conversation.

35:27

Why? Because I want to be super duper

35:29

smart? No. So that you can

35:31

convince people and save

35:34

them from these destructive ideologies.

35:37

They are evil. They are wicked.

35:39

Not only do they set themselves up against God,

35:42

they annihilate people's lives,

35:44

you guys. That's why

35:47

you got to be prepared so that you can

35:49

win some. Save

35:51

them from destruction. Lastly,

35:55

for people that are yelling because they're offended by

35:57

the title of a book, I just got

35:59

to say. to you've got to grow thicker skin

36:02

or you're not going to make it in this

36:04

world. I'm sorry you're just not. You're

36:06

not gonna make it in the world if you can't grow thick enough

36:08

skin to hear someone say

36:11

something that you don't like without going full

36:13

apoplectic. Next

36:16

thing you got to grow thicker skin is you

36:18

you you've got to expand I'm sorry

36:20

not sorry guys you've got to expand

36:23

your mind to hear something

36:25

that you don't like and say okay

36:27

before I go off and lose like like

36:30

seriously like lose my poo. I

36:33

want to find out what you mean when you say

36:35

that so I can just understand

36:37

the dialogue. How do you

36:39

define that word? And

36:42

if you think I'm just I'm just being Mr.

36:44

Mean Pants I've had to do this for three

36:46

years every time somebody says you

36:48

don't believe in systemic racism I have to say

36:50

well let's have a conversation

36:53

what what do you mean when you say systemic

36:56

racism? I don't mind that

36:58

kind of nuance like because now words

37:00

are just they're being hijacked and they're used they're

37:03

used for activism and for power.

37:06

I want to know what you mean by that word because people

37:08

mean systemic racism racism

37:11

structural racism whiteness

37:14

BLM all of these things

37:16

have multiple meanings. Wokeness has multiple

37:19

means. What do you mean when you say that

37:21

so we can have an actual intellectual

37:23

conversation so we can be friends and

37:26

I might just be able to win you

37:28

to my side why because it's an exercise

37:30

of power no because I believe

37:32

your worldview is destructive and it's

37:35

going to make you incapable

37:39

of flourishing that's what

37:41

I believe you guys you got to go to John

37:43

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37:59

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