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Championship Week Instant Reaction: TCU’s playoff future after losing, Deion Sanders to Colorado, more! (12/04)

Championship Week Instant Reaction: TCU’s playoff future after losing, Deion Sanders to Colorado, more! (12/04)

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Championship Week Instant Reaction: TCU’s playoff future after losing, Deion Sanders to Colorado, more! (12/04)

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I got about

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the nine ish eight fifty

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four minute mark in the fourth quarter, Michigan,

1:46

holding on to point

1:48

lead against Purdue in the big ten championship

1:50

game. Climpson, putting things

1:53

on ice right now against

1:55

North Carolina, up thirty nine to ten.

1:57

lots to get to in both of those

1:59

games. Obviously, when they conclude, but

2:02

so much more to dive into

2:04

from championship Saturday. It got

2:06

started early as we had to go

2:08

to extra time World Cup

2:10

reference. Over time as

2:12

Kansas State wins thirty one to

2:14

twenty eight. A couple of a third down

2:17

and fourth down stops by the defense

2:19

comes through huge. Georgia

2:21

puts a fifty burger on the board.

2:23

in the same building where they're probably about

2:25

to play a semifinal and

2:28

either we're efforting.

2:30

Okay? I don't know if Nick Sabin

2:33

will also be joining this show as

2:35

he joined about four to five

2:37

other programs. with his crimson

2:39

blazer, mid stump speech.

2:42

I mean, even him and Urban Meyer yucking

2:44

it up, he went over to Fox.

2:47

That's How desperate is

2:49

Alabama to politics its way into

2:51

the final four of the college football playoff

2:54

committee rankings? Nick Sabin went

2:56

to Fox. Good gravy.

2:59

Lots to get to. Oh,

3:01

yeah. And also, Colorado has

3:03

now officially announced Dion Sanders

3:05

as its new head coach. Shout out

3:07

to Tom Fornelly rocking the bust right there.

3:10

We will have Colorado

3:12

content coming up here shortly, but

3:16

I kinda wanna begin with just like the

3:18

game of Kansas State Is that

3:20

cool with y'all? Yeah. Yeah. It was a good

3:22

game. Because that's the thing is, like,

3:25

this is a phenomenal contest.

3:27

It's the second straight year that this Big

3:29

twelve title game has been a

3:31

thriller, a banger. And

3:33

this time, that had national championship

3:35

implications. What

3:38

did this Kansas State

3:40

team show you? Because

3:43

Already, the defense is banged up coming

3:45

into the game. We have more injuries on

3:47

the defensive side of the ball. We have Malik

3:49

Knowles come up with one of the,

3:51

like, huge explosive plays in this game,

3:53

and then he ends up getting knocked out with an

3:55

injury. What did this Kansas State

3:57

team do well in order

4:00

to get this big twelve championship. The

4:02

program's first outright

4:04

championship since two thousand three. They shared

4:07

a championship in two thousand twelve. but

4:09

a a incredible program

4:11

mark for Kansas State. What

4:14

in this game did Kansas State do well

4:16

and impress you with?

4:19

I thought they answered really well. I thought

4:21

they stuck to their game plan for the most part

4:23

even when guys went out and they leaned

4:25

on their best players. Right? They get down

4:27

seven nothing early. They punch back

4:30

with Knowles. Knowles gets hurt. They're like, alright.

4:32

You know what? We're gonna find different ways

4:34

to get the ball and do Swan's and

4:36

they did. And I thought they

4:39

converted their critical times better

4:41

than TCU did in this game. TCU

4:43

had more yards TCU had a

4:45

higher yards for playoff. But I think

4:47

when we look at the, like, the real high leverage downs,

4:50

we're gonna see that Kansas State

4:52

was really good in those situational spots. It

4:54

looked like really well coached team. And, you

4:56

know, we said on Wednesday, can

4:59

I have a suspicion that that Kansas State might

5:01

be the best team in the big twelve?

5:03

And they did not

5:05

get it done the way I thought they would get it done even

5:07

though the game went under barely.

5:10

Because they only had, what, I think, two tackles

5:12

from loss in in Reaction, and I I thought their defense

5:15

of line would make a bigger impact.

5:17

I I thought creative play calling was

5:19

was great for them and they they

5:21

went out and got it done by getting the Polydues hands

5:24

What are you you touched it? Twenty

5:27

twenty

5:27

nine touches, I think. And yeah. It

5:30

number one, passing option two. Mhmm. like,

5:32

let's put him in a slot. Let's flex him out wide.

5:34

Let's throw it to him out of the back field. Like, it was

5:37

it it was the Marshall Faulkian. Like,

5:39

the way they were running him downfield from, like,

5:41

motion out to the slot, and then not just throw him little,

5:43

like, bubble or or slip stuff. And

5:46

he's running post routes for these guys. As as

5:48

a five foot five dude, that's That

5:50

was wild.

5:52

Yeah. TCUs,

5:54

I still don't agree that Kansas State's the best team

5:57

in the Big twelve. I mean, they

5:59

won the game. They deserved

5:59

to win the game. They played very well, but

6:02

they beat TCU by three points in

6:04

overtime after TCU at twelve and

6:06

l. in the regular season in the big In score

6:08

to touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

6:11

that's your thing too. Yeah. And and

6:13

TCU missed a favorable ball, like, ended

6:15

past the plane. Yeah. The GCU

6:17

missed a field goal had a touchdown that

6:19

didn't count for reasons.

6:23

had a kind of a weird spot even before that,

6:25

which they were down at the one inch line and they got

6:27

the ball in about the full yard line.

6:29

Just Again, Kansas State's

6:31

a very good team. Kansas State did

6:33

nothing wrong today that did that would make me

6:35

say they didn't deserve to win this game. They

6:38

did. Chris Climate and the wildcat should

6:40

be thrilled. I just don't know if today's

6:42

result proves to me that they actually were

6:44

the best team in the Big twelve. I think they were

6:46

just the better team today. and

6:48

that TCU was the better team on the entire

6:50

season. So the one thing you set out

6:52

the one thing you set out to me was that, like,

6:54

nothing was easy for TCU.

6:57

No. That's where you've gotta really because

6:59

this is one of the most explosive offenses in

7:01

the entire country, and everything

7:03

felt so laborious. for

7:06

TCU as it moved down the field. I mean, just

7:08

like hero ball from Max

7:10

Dugan to be able to try and

7:12

will this thing into even

7:14

getting to the overtime period, I

7:17

just I I thought that Kansas State did

7:19

a really good job of sending

7:22

a lot of pressure, putting a lot of heat

7:24

on ducking, making life difficult. You

7:27

can't get those downfield

7:30

passing plays if he's running

7:32

for his life and doesn't have the time for

7:34

those playoff to develop, Kansas State

7:36

was gambling on that. Okay. We're banged up in the

7:38

defensive back field. That's cool. Let's just

7:41

Sanders and let's figure out a way to

7:43

be able to make this thing happen. I thought that

7:46

being able to make it so difficult

7:48

for TCU to even get to twenty

7:50

eight points in regulation and,

7:53

like, how exhausting it seemed for

7:55

TCE to get there was

7:57

it was a a credit to you know,

8:00

Kansas State's game plan both before

8:02

and then also in the game once things unfold.

8:04

Do you know what do you know what this do you know what today

8:06

was if we want to include last night's trip?

8:08

if we look at Caleb Williams and Max

8:11

Dug in and Jaden Daniels, the name

8:13

is a real gut check Saturday. Gotcha.

8:16

Sorry. No. Like,

8:18

Max Duggin in this game. Look,

8:20

he he he was going full Jay

8:22

Haynor where, like, he he

8:24

looked like he was died out there

8:27

for his team struggled to get

8:29

up, but wouldn't but the help came. He's waved

8:31

him off. He's like, no. No. I could

8:33

do it. I could do it on my own. And

8:35

it was just It was very inspiring.

8:37

It was very gritty. Did you hear how

8:40

they broke out in the cuts? Yes.

8:42

Yeah. Holly's cut. He's

8:44

Coddy. He's playoff it everywhere. I count

8:47

it at least seven. I love Holly. I'm like, you

8:49

know, Holly's like, I hear like, I count seventeen

8:51

or eighteen Knicks and Cuts on this man.

8:55

He's got her chart out. She's like, well, there's one on the side.

8:57

Look at, like, a forensics report. Yeah.

8:59

Oh, yeah. That's very strange. I see bruises.

9:02

I see I see strawberries.

9:05

I see rug burn, turf burn. But,

9:08

no, he was he dude. He

9:10

was beat the hell up, and he gutted it

9:12

out because he knew how important this game was, and

9:14

how important it was for them, and they

9:17

came up short. Because like you said, can't state?

9:19

Like, the reason he was bang up is because

9:21

Kansas State was making everything hard.

9:24

Kansas State's defense is salty

9:26

as hell they made TCUs. C. work for

9:28

every single inch that they got. It

9:31

wore them down and at the end of the game.

9:33

When they needed just a yard to finish

9:35

it off or win the game, they couldn't

9:37

get it or

9:38

they couldn't get it convincingly because

9:41

they were just worn down by Kansas State's

9:43

defense.

9:44

I I do think they got it, by the way. Hold

9:46

on. Yeah. Yeah. When he extended the

9:48

ball across the playoff? Like Yes.

9:51

I mean, if you go, like, by the definition

9:53

of a touchdown.

9:55

Okay. That was one. Sure. I I

9:57

yeah. I I grew there. I

10:00

will

10:00

say, I don't I don't hate the play call

10:02

other than the fact that, like, you are

10:04

so close to to the Golan. I would like

10:06

to see a sneak there or at least to like

10:09

the option for the for the sneak that on

10:11

the one, it did look to me like like he

10:13

had a natural bubble over, like, between

10:15

the the garden center there because they really weren't playing

10:18

somebody shaded right over the center.

10:20

So I thought maybe maybe you could sneak that

10:22

in there But I do wanna point out,

10:24

like, Kinderpillar has been an excellent

10:26

short yardage pack all year. Go

10:28

watch the Baylor game. Right? Go watch

10:30

the Texas game. Miller when they used short yardage

10:32

stuff was really pretty damn good for them

10:35

all years. I don't I don't hate putting the ball in his

10:37

hands.

10:40

Oh, you mean, like, as opposed to the

10:42

the dug and sneak, which was -- Yeah. -- the sort

10:45

of, like, refrain was, like,

10:47

why don't you just let

10:48

your big old thick quarterback get up

10:50

in there and just sort of stuff it and see if he can,

10:53

you

10:53

know, take care of business. because he was like

10:55

dying. because then he was

10:57

exhausted.

10:59

So hit that part. You

11:02

know, we are gonna do some some

11:04

more, like, college football playoff slash

11:07

rankings predictions a little bit later

11:09

on in the show. But

11:12

since we just discussed it,

11:15

TCU still

11:17

in. Right? Yeah.

11:19

Yes. Okay. TCUs

11:22

has two better wins than anything Alabama has,

11:25

at least, maybe three. TCU's

11:27

loss is also better

11:30

than either of Alabama's losses. k?

11:33

That's a loss to a team at Beat already.

11:35

Correct. It's a loss of team of beat. It's

11:37

a loss in overtime by three.

11:39

The Tennessee team that beat Alabama got

11:42

its doors blown off. three

11:44

weeks later. Okay? The Tennessee

11:46

team or the LSU team that beat Alabama

11:49

went on to

11:50

the, like, crap against Arkansas. to

11:52

lose because gets the terrible A and M

11:54

team and then get his stores blown

11:57

off by Georgia. That kind of

11:59

stuff is out of Alabama's control, but what is in

12:01

Alabama's control is beating those teams or

12:03

or not, and they didn't do it. Like, they don't

12:05

have good wins by the

12:07

power ratings, which was Nick Sabin's argument tonight.

12:10

Alabama is going to be power rated over

12:12

TCUs, in mind too, by the way.

12:14

And I've had to manually drop them some

12:16

because I'm tired of losing money on Alabama on

12:19

on these these big games because Vegas has them

12:21

overrated. I do too. Here's

12:23

the thing though. Even if you wanna take those

12:25

power ratings, Use those power ratings

12:28

as the rating that you use for team

12:30

quality, and then put that

12:32

in your resume model. What you're gonna find

12:34

is that TCU comes out way ahead. Mhmm.

12:36

Because BAMA just does not have the wings this

12:38

year. Like, they're this is not the test case

12:40

for the committee to throw to throw the first ever two

12:42

loss team. And I I'm I would

12:45

be absolutely floored tomorrow and

12:47

not like an outrage standpoint, but just like I would

12:49

I would be shocked if they put the Alabama in

12:51

over TCU.

12:52

Also, if the college football playoff is

12:54

just gonna consist of teams that have high

12:56

power ratings who we think are capable of winning

12:59

a national title, Well, then

13:01

let's just pick the four teams in August

13:03

because we got pretty good idea who they are,

13:05

and we'll just won't play the regular season.

13:07

We'll just play the playoff in August and call it

13:09

a year. Do you know who would have been in on

13:11

some polls? The

13:13

series. The equities. Yeah. Yeah.

13:16

how would that have worked out? Right.

13:19

And and like the thing with the power ratings is

13:21

the best power ratings are always gonna incorporate

13:23

priors. from last year and the year

13:26

before, and honestly a little bit of

13:28

three years ago too. And they're never gonna

13:30

take out fully the recruiting rankings,

13:32

but for this year, like, this

13:34

is the national title year of this

13:36

year, not of some amalgamation

13:38

of the prior four years. I'll mix the match and

13:40

and get the right the right waiting on it. I

13:43

don't really care how good your recruits were if

13:45

I'm picking the teams to play in playoff for

13:47

this year's national title. I care how well

13:49

those recruits played in

13:51

the twelve or thirteen games that you played.

13:53

So There's a simple path oh,

13:56

sorry.

13:56

Oh, go ahead. As I

13:57

said, there's a simple path to reach the college football

13:59

playoff.

14:01

your games and don't

14:03

lose any of them. If

14:04

you lose one, you could still make it.

14:07

You gotta hope for your help elsewhere. You

14:09

lose twice shut up and live

14:11

with it, period.

14:15

So Nick Sabin's arguments included

14:18

provide context for what

14:20

happened early in the season. And

14:23

number two, how good are

14:25

you at the end of the season? to

14:27

which I asked, how good was

14:30

Alabama at the end of the season?

14:36

Not great. I mean, not one of the four

14:38

best teams in the country. I

14:40

mean, they they finished with three wins.

14:42

Sure. But I you know,

14:45

you gotta throw out the you gotta

14:47

throw out the awesome p game. Oh,

14:50

no. You can't. I mean, they were they're dominant

14:53

in that performance chip. You can't overlook Austin

14:55

P. That's a solid FCS program there.

14:58

Iron Bowl was

15:02

a

15:02

team with an interim coach.

15:05

I mean But I mean but mean

15:07

even the performance. Right? Like, Let's just judge

15:09

Alabama against its standard.

15:11

Would would they win by twenty three?

15:13

Yep. Mhmm. I

15:15

mean, honestly, Arkansas winning

15:18

at Auburn by a similar

15:20

score. A Auburn punch went in very

15:23

late on the road. I mean, when before

15:25

Auburn was was crazy banged up. It's

15:27

just as impressive. They they don't have

15:29

the good wins. Who

15:31

who is BAMA's best win this year?

15:33

Texas. Texas. Okay. So so

15:35

by one on the road against Texas back of

15:37

quarterback. Mhmm. TCUs back. TCU

15:39

beat by seven on the road against Texas.

15:41

With it starting quarterback. Yeah.

15:44

alright. That's not even that's not even by the way.

15:46

That's not their best win. No. I think

15:48

I think their best win is probably Kansas State.

15:51

Yes. So What

15:53

about the TCU Ohio

15:55

State debate?

15:58

I was not aware we had we we were gonna

16:00

have this debate. what do

16:01

you mean you were not aware? Like, oh oh, do you mean

16:03

like who should be in or who should be higher? Who should be

16:05

higher? Like, if if you're gonna go ahead and

16:07

then we're gonna say, alright. So USC's

16:10

out the paint. We have made the Alabama

16:12

argument even despite, you know, TCU

16:15

losing. TCU is still going to be in the

16:17

top four. So who

16:19

goes to put before we pivot to the SEC

16:21

championship where Georgia put a,

16:23

again, fifty burger on the board.

16:27

Who wins that one because those

16:29

are two one loss teams. TCU

16:31

has twelve wins. Ohio State has

16:33

eleven wins. TCU,

16:36

easy. It's got the better

16:38

it's got better overall wins. It's got the stronger

16:41

strength of schedule. It has one loss

16:43

by three points at overtime to a team that beat

16:45

in the regular season. Ohio state's

16:47

loan loss was at home by three scores

16:49

against the team missing its best player on

16:51

offense. Ohio State has no argument

16:53

to be ranked ahead of TCU. TCU

16:56

played in its conference championship. Ohio State

16:58

didn't even win its division.

17:00

Yeah. Ohio station before.

17:05

That's fine. I think Tom just nailed it. Yeah. I

17:07

I maybe not quite

17:09

as clear as as what Tom has, but ultimately,

17:11

I I think he's right on this. Right? I

17:14

don't know that I have that much to add if you think about this in

17:16

in Instant at least Ohio

17:19

State was more dominant than BAML was. Like, they

17:21

they won every game by double

17:23

digits. But just kinda so

17:25

so let's let's think about this. Right?

17:27

Right. And and not

17:29

that Vegas is always right because

17:31

they're not, but

17:32

they're already posting lines now

17:34

for

17:35

for Michigan, TCUs. Okay?

17:37

And they're already posting lines

17:39

for Georgia, Ohio State.

17:41

So we

17:42

kinda have a pretty good feeling of how this is

17:44

going to go Nobody's posting lines for

17:46

Alabama right now, by the way.

17:48

But TCU

17:50

is gonna be about A98 and a half, somewhere

17:52

in that range. Maybe it gets up to ten. against

17:54

Michigan, which is fair. Let's

17:57

say Michigan team won by twenty one

18:00

on

18:00

the road at Ohio State, your

18:03

your loss to Kansas State was by

18:05

three. And over time, if you

18:06

kind of back out those power ratings, I still think

18:08

it's it's fair that that recent loss

18:11

is certainly worse than the recent loss

18:13

suffered by TCU. So

18:16

TCU should be three, a high station

18:18

before.

18:20

I think that's what what'll happen. Yeah.

18:23

I

18:24

I would like to point out submitting the comment does make

18:26

a good point. High State was without

18:28

its top running backs in that game too. Strike

18:31

Michigan was

18:32

still able to run the ball. So

18:34

without it stopped running back, it still played

18:36

better than Ohio State did without it stopped running

18:39

back.

18:41

apples

18:41

to apples. Apple

18:43

sauce. Let's

18:46

go. So speaking

18:49

of the number one team in the country,

18:52

the Georgia Bulldogs, who we

18:54

assume, will be in a

18:56

semifinal matchup against Ohio State,

18:58

which, I mean, sign

19:00

me up. Let's go. Main

19:03

line that right to my

19:05

veins. Kirby

19:07

Smart, Ryan Day, Ohio

19:10

State message boards after Georgia wins

19:12

by thirty five? No. I'm skinny. I'm

19:15

skinny.

19:20

Only because it was here on the Instant reaction

19:22

show that we really got to dive into the Ryan Day

19:24

issue. I feel like we were ahead of it and

19:26

everybody else kinda followed suit in

19:29

terms of understanding how ridiculous that got

19:31

to the point where I even saw

19:33

I even seen out here in these streets

19:36

the like, what

19:37

about Mike Vrabeel? Maybe

19:39

we can just like scare Ryan Day

19:41

off to the NFL and then just go throw

19:43

money at Mike Vrabeel. I mean, that's the good

19:45

stuff right there. But you know

19:47

what though? Like, we I I don't think

19:49

it's happening. Mike Fravo would

19:51

kill it if he got the Ohio State

19:54

job. Yeah. A

19:56

hundred percent.

19:58

you wanna talk about a team that's always

20:01

going to be tough. You

20:03

wanna talk about a team that is not gonna get

20:05

bullied. Like, it is we always

20:07

talk about the the pendulum swinging and

20:09

the past the chalk and the ways that all these

20:12

things influence each other. if Ohio

20:14

State gets bullied one more

20:16

time by Jim Harbaugh's

20:18

Michigan, they're gonna cook

20:20

it my frable and they're gonna stop recruiting

20:22

five Star wide receivers. Mhmm. They're just

20:25

gonna go back into mass u mode.

20:27

That's cool.

20:28

That's that's that's what's gonna happen. I

20:30

I hope that everyone has enjoyed this

20:32

modern approach that Ryan Day has brought

20:34

to Ohio State because that is going

20:36

to go right back in time. the

20:38

second that they lose one more game to Jim Harbaugh's

20:41

Michigan if it happens in bully fashion like

20:43

it has the last two times. So

20:46

Georgia,

20:47

puts fifty on the board against

20:50

LSU. LSU a little bit spunky.

20:52

You know, Nussmeyer comes in there Instant

20:55

get get low yeah. Get

20:57

a couple scores late playoff some yellow

20:59

ball. But what did the

21:01

Bulldog show you here? You know, those

21:04

or some bananas plays early

21:06

that that provided plenty of entertainment

21:10

may be altered the way this game played

21:12

out. but did Georgia after,

21:15

you know, the close

21:17

win against Kentucky where

21:19

the offense can't, like, quite

21:21

punch it in. Can't get it done in short yard

21:24

situations. Slow start against

21:26

Georgia Tech. They poured on late. did

21:28

Georgia come out and give you a performance that

21:31

had you inspired

21:34

by by the Bulldogs as the number one team

21:36

in the country?

21:39

Yeah.

21:39

III would say for most part,

21:41

right, that the first, I don't know,

21:43

six or seven minutes were were maybe not incredibly

21:45

impressive. from Georgia. The look,

21:48

you you you you get the fuel oil return,

21:50

which felt kind of fluekey.

21:52

You you got the helmet interception, which again

21:55

felt a little bit strange to me. But

21:57

ultimately, Georgia dominated the the this

22:00

game in the first half. The

22:02

a key stat, III parsed out here.

22:04

So LSU had a hundred

22:06

and sixty yards before

22:09

Georgia went up thirty five to seven,

22:12

and it had four hundred yards.

22:14

after getting down thirty five to

22:16

seven. So while it wasn't technically

22:18

by the definition of garbage time. Garbage

22:21

time, it very much was

22:23

like pseudo garbage time for

22:25

the final thirty minutes. And don't think that

22:27

the fifty to thirty score is

22:30

necessarily reflective of

22:32

the true level of play that we saw from

22:34

these teams from about minute five to minute

22:36

thirty, which is really where the game was

22:39

to side. Yeah.

22:40

We Georgia did what we seen it do

22:42

a lot this year. We saw it do it to Tennessee.

22:45

Like, when it got up thirty five to seven, it

22:47

knew the game was over. Jaiden Daniels

22:49

was barely able to walk as they were getting that

22:51

last second field goal before the half break

22:53

there. And George

22:55

and knew it was like, okay. Well, unless

22:57

we do some of the dumbest stuff that

22:59

we've ever done. There is no

23:01

way in the world. LSU is coming

23:03

back to beat us right now. So the second half

23:05

came out and wasn't, like, totally

23:08

just go into a shell and just hand

23:10

off for the last thirty minutes, but they weren't

23:12

really doing anything two

23:14

risk and offense defensively. They were just

23:17

dropping back. They were just like, okay. Cool.

23:19

Just don't give up big playoff. Force them to

23:21

go down the field time and time again

23:23

Instant bunch playoff. burn clock.

23:25

They won't have a chance. And then when we need to score,

23:27

we'll go score. And that's pretty much how it worked. And

23:29

that was I mean, that's why I came in. hit

23:31

some big shots. Keishan Boody made some big

23:33

plays. The receivers got open, made some

23:35

guys miss, and turned it into big plays that

23:38

led the points. So I'll credit to LSU for doing

23:40

it. But I don't think George's

23:42

defensive game plan in the second half

23:44

was what

23:45

you would have seen from them if this

23:47

game was still close. I

23:50

would agree with that. I thought Steppen

23:52

Bennett was was really good tonight. I

23:54

mean, Caitlin, I mean, Caitlin.

23:56

Hi, Pat. Excellent.

23:59

cable when the high has

23:59

been

24:00

pretty sure, but sets

24:03

of minimum was damn good. Like like, just

24:05

the the accuracy not

24:08

really putting the ball at risk. I mean, yeah, the key

24:10

maybe had one that that that Elijio guy

24:12

even had a shot at, ran the offense

24:14

efficiently.

24:15

I was I was pretty impressed.

24:17

I I don't

24:19

wanna bag on LSU because LSU has

24:21

had great season. especially given

24:23

their their preseason expectations. And their

24:25

win total was was six.

24:27

They were picked fifth in the division.

24:29

Right. Exactly. And I think collectively,

24:32

we thought that was probably low, but

24:34

not like, hey, they should they're gonna win the division

24:36

low. More like, there's a real shot

24:38

that a win seven or maybe a games type type

24:40

thing if if things

24:42

break right. My

24:43

wife Sanders, she fan, obviously, she

24:46

goes how bad is this

24:48

league that were playing for the title this

24:50

year?

24:51

I was like, hey, that's a fair point.

24:54

Like, did you get her on the show? this is yeah.

24:56

Seriously. Like, this is one of

24:58

the worst SECs we've seen in several

25:01

decades overall. But that doesn't

25:03

mean that Georgia is not like,

25:05

super killer good. I think they probably

25:08

are. I mean, they're they're clear, like,

25:10

power ratings wise, like, thirty above

25:12

average. And their ceiling is probably

25:14

like a thirty five. You know, like, that's

25:16

really, really good. But

25:18

the rest of the league is just not there. And,

25:22

I mean, do we think this result would have been any different

25:24

against BAMA? Or if they had to play Tennessee

25:26

again? I I really don't. No. I

25:28

don't

25:28

think BAM has got the dudes on the outside to

25:30

really test this defense enough. I mean, that's

25:33

I think the one thing that LSU has that Alabama

25:35

doesn't, that could give him somewhat of, you know,

25:37

a chance in this one. But as

25:39

far as Georgia, like, I was doing

25:41

HQ half time for TCUs, and,

25:44

you know, Tommy Tran mentioned on to

25:46

how they went from. I think it was, like, minus

25:48

one sixty to win the national

25:50

title earlier today to minus one

25:52

thirty after TCU's

25:54

loss because that we knew Ohio State was in

25:56

or don't know. Because Ohio State yeah.

25:59

Because Ohio State gets in, it shortens

26:01

George's odds because Ohio State's more dangerous

26:03

than whatever the other fourth team would have been. and

26:06

my first instinct was, gimme it.

26:09

If I can get Georgia better odds that I could

26:11

have this sporty because they're still the best

26:13

team in the country. And Just

26:15

thinking about, like, we were you mentioned

26:17

chips kind of as a joke. Like, just thinking about what

26:19

Michigan did to Ohio State. If Ohio

26:21

State's gotta play Georgia in the first round,

26:24

I

26:24

think Ohio State can give Georgia problems,

26:27

but I do think Georgia can also

26:29

bully Ohio State. and

26:31

I think Michigan is a very good team if

26:33

it gets past But

26:35

Georgia is Michigan just with more

26:37

talent. and TCU we've seen has

26:39

struggled, and I don't think TCU is gonna be

26:41

Georgia either. So it's

26:43

the best team in the country to me. Time

26:45

and time again, it has proven to me that I think

26:48

the most dominant team in the country, no

26:50

disrespect to Michigan, which is also still undefeated

26:52

and is pulling away from Purdue here

26:54

in the final minutes. But I just don't

26:56

think it's at Georgia's level. Like, we saw what

26:58

happened last year when those two teams met. Even

27:01

though I think that this team this Georgia

27:03

team is slightly worse and this Michigan team is

27:05

slightly better, I just don't

27:07

think they've closed the gap nearly enough.

27:10

When Jalen Carter lifted

27:13

Jaden Daniels into

27:15

the sky. Shannon Daniels

27:17

is not a tiny man. No.

27:19

Oh, he's skinny, but but he he's not

27:22

short. he there's, like, the rep

27:24

just blow it. Like, I won't I won't throw

27:26

him to the ground. Like, those are legitimate

27:28

professionals. They are professionals and

27:30

that they will be playing in the NFL, but

27:32

they are professionals and that they're already on

27:34

that, like, hold on. No. No. No. I got it.

27:37

He's not going anywhere. I'm just gonna sit

27:39

here and bear hog him till you blow the whistle,

27:41

and we're just gonna keep things moving. Alright,

27:43

gentlemen. Let's go.

27:45

Jade and Daniels does that to you. What do you do?

27:49

if

27:49

Jane like, bear hugs

27:51

me and lifts me in the sky. Just start told you

27:53

in the sky like you're like his toy. Oh, no,

27:55

jailing. Jalen Carter does that. I'm sorry.

27:57

Jalen Carter. Yeah. You

28:01

know, actually, my instinct would be

28:03

to thrash which would only make

28:05

it worse. I

28:07

understand that it will, you know This is the

28:09

piece chip. Yeah. Yeah. like,

28:12

your options are to go limp or thrash.

28:14

And I I will tell you that I would rather

28:17

I would rather thrash. and

28:18

just end it faster.

28:21

But at least if you go lip, it might

28:23

just put you down. Yeah. That's true.

28:26

Well, IIIA hundred percent understand.

28:29

But I've I'm with the rasher. I can't

28:31

I can't help it. Just kind of instinctive

28:33

right there. I would just be like, is there anything else

28:35

I could do for you, sir? I

28:38

mean, it is

28:40

so impressive. The way

28:42

that and that Georgia

28:44

defense started the year

28:46

you know, we've got, like, you know,

28:49

new change up in leadership, so

28:51

much turnover from the personnel perspective.

28:54

they are not as, you know, advanced in

28:57

terms of, you know, just it's

28:59

more like line it up, go get it, just be better

29:02

than everyone as opposed So, like, really

29:04

being highly advanced with your twist, your stance,

29:06

your communications, your checks,

29:08

like and

29:09

I think they're getting better.

29:11

I I think they are adding

29:14

to their repertoire as they get

29:16

here late in the season. And

29:18

we're gonna give this team a

29:21

month off, not a month. We're gonna

29:23

give this team twenty eight days

29:25

off to prepare for

29:28

Ohio State I I

29:30

think they're gonna be just fine. But

29:32

I say it's got a killer offense, but

29:35

I think they can cause some problems for the Buckeyes.

29:38

it it forgot to nitpick it. LSG's

29:41

receivers did have some success in the storage

29:43

corners. So I

29:46

do think I'll have to state his better receivers if

29:48

JSN decided he wanted to playoff, that would be,

29:51

I mean, huge. I don't think that's going to happen,

29:53

obviously. But I'm

29:55

not sure that Georgia's corners are as good as

29:57

as they have been in prior years. So

29:59

maybe

29:59

Ohio State can get them some there. I

30:03

do think that Georgia probably

30:05

has to blitz to get pressure

30:07

on Ohio State, which means you may get some more

30:09

of those one on ones. I don't know that

30:11

Georgia's pass rush is all that

30:13

good. We we talked about they're

30:16

they're non they're non blitz pass rush, just to be

30:18

clear. I think Georgia's blitz packages are are are freaking

30:20

awesome. And I do think that Ohio

30:22

State's office of tackles are better than

30:25

LSU's. LSU's are freshman and they

30:27

got exposed some tonight.

30:28

Well, this afternoon, I guess. Ohio

30:31

states are not bad. Speaking

30:33

of all of the tackles, by the way, McClendon

30:35

goes down for

30:36

Georgia, and

30:37

Ameris MEMS steps is

30:41

just as good. Right?

30:42

It was just it

30:43

was crazy. Like, you just believed everybody

30:45

out of the way like, the physicality George

30:48

plays with, it does look different from

30:50

every other team out there, basically. Michigan

30:53

occasionally plays

30:55

that, but I think Georgia does it more often.

31:00

So we've got a couple finals

31:03

now. Michigan forty

31:05

three. Purdue twenty

31:09

two. We will continue with our championship

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33:51

the final in in

33:54

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33:56

back to back, oh, it's not.

34:02

I mean, that's

34:06

amazing. you've gone o and

34:08

eighteen in locks the last

34:10

two weeks. And if we wanna go back to three

34:12

weeks, you are two and

34:14

twenty five. I

34:17

was forty nine and

34:19

thirty nine on the season

34:23

at the conclusion of week eleven.

34:25

Mhmm.

34:29

two and twenty

34:31

five and twenty five.

34:35

You're the overall unit leader through week

34:37

seven. Mhmm. You

34:39

just I mean,

34:42

Listen,

34:43

I challenge anybody to go to in twenty

34:45

five. Try it. Yeah. See if you

34:47

could do it. You won't. You

34:49

ain't as good as Chip. Chip is

34:52

Ifinam. He virtueoso.

34:56

You can't can't get

34:58

any can't

35:01

get any low I mean, the the season's over.

35:03

At least the season's over. At

35:06

least I am not allowed to offer another

35:09

regular season locks. I mean, I went, like,

35:11

what, three and eight this week, and I'm, like, yeah,

35:14

at least I didn't go and nine.

35:17

It's so funny because it's so

35:21

much time has spent covering this sport.

35:25

And some of the losses, like, yeah, like,

35:27

are way off. But there's

35:29

others, like if TCU had

35:34

the touchdown that We

35:37

all admitted on this show earlier was

35:39

a touchdown. That's

35:41

an over.

35:44

That's true. That's too bad.

35:46

That's too bad because that's one of the few bets I

35:48

got right this week. So cry

35:51

me a river.

35:55

on the We

35:57

we almost hit the middle. Yeah.

35:59

It's truly almost. because they would not have kicked the extra

36:02

point. It would've been Yeah. If if the industry

36:04

just scored a touchdown and it was just, like, right

36:06

there at sixty two. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Incredibly.

36:09

Chip. Chip knows. Chip. been

36:12

running the Chipolitics. He knows. He's running

36:14

the Chipolitics. was very, very

36:16

aware of the And I had to

36:18

do HQ for postgame. So I'm sitting

36:21

there, like, live on camera. There

36:24

is documentation in the vault

36:27

of me just sitting there watching

36:29

this all crumble. Alright. Chip,

36:31

I'm gonna give you something here.

36:33

Right. You

36:34

actually had good picks this week. You

36:37

didn't play in the game. All you can do

36:39

is make your Instant then we'll see

36:41

where the market weighs in and what the game

36:43

closes at. Alright?

36:46

Now, can't

36:46

say over? Not

36:48

the right one. Go it the other way. Yeah.

36:50

Coastal, you

36:51

took eight and a half to close six and a half.

36:54

That's a great bet. If you could,

36:56

you should bet more on that. It got blown away?

36:59

Sure. Boise

37:00

three, what Boise closed? Three eggs

37:02

and juice? So, like, not on the

37:04

wrong side of of where that's closing.

37:07

Ohio plus two. Boise played like some

37:09

dumbasses, though. So Yeah.

37:11

Ohio plus two with Finn. you

37:13

know, like, that's that that

37:14

moved that line, but, like, obviously, the call

37:17

moved that. UCF closed. Were they

37:19

closed? Three? Yeah.

37:20

So you you took UCF four.

37:22

They closed three. You beat the market by a full point

37:24

on on to a key number three. And then thirty

37:26

one twenty eight. Things looks a little spicy,

37:28

but yikes. Yeah. Almost sideways.

37:31

LSG, Georgia took under fifty two. It closed

37:33

fifty one and a half, thirty seven fifty

37:35

ones out there. So, again,

37:37

not on the wrong side of the move there. Per

37:39

digits seventeen, it closed fifteen. Again,

37:42

that's a good bet. UNC plus seven

37:44

and a half, it closed seven, looks like

37:46

six and half at circa which will take, like,

37:48

fifty thousand at regain time. CLV CLV

37:51

does not buy you ice cream. No. But

37:54

if you're losing chips picks here, like, this week,

37:56

like, last week, I'm not really sure about

37:58

Chip's picks last week.

37:59

This week, I looked at it. I'm like, damn,

38:01

Chip had some really bad luck this week. Like, if you

38:03

faded Chip's picks this week, you won

38:07

if you phase somebody's picks to go seven and two

38:09

CLV every

38:10

week,

38:11

you're probably to filing bankruptcy.

38:14

Chip is fond of saying that the sharps are wrong

38:16

forty percent of the time. The super

38:18

sharps are wrong one hundred percent of the

38:20

time. Okay? Anyway,

38:23

that's enough of that. That that that that's

38:25

just for the people who came, who

38:27

who listened to us every single Diagon

38:29

week. We've had, like, nine hundred

38:32

episodes or something where we've been

38:34

breaking down all of our picks. So

38:37

if you're with us for that, then I'm sure

38:39

you enjoy that. If you came for football

38:41

analysis, what did Michigan show us

38:43

against Purdue?

38:46

It's the best team in the Big Ten. I mean, it's

38:48

this was Purdue came out really

38:51

well in the first half and made this

38:53

a game, but this was really a pretty

38:56

simple story. Like, Michigan

38:59

finished its drives, Purdue

39:01

did not. And that

39:03

was the know, that that's

39:06

told the whole tale. Like, Michigan, every

39:08

time it got into into Purdue territory,

39:10

its score to touchdown. I don't know the

39:13

final count, but I know the last time I checked

39:15

for Du had gotten inside the Michigan

39:17

thirty six times, had

39:19

one touchdown, four field goals,

39:21

and an interception. you

39:23

are not going to pull off an upset

39:26

that way, and that's exactly

39:28

what they did not do. They ended up losing by

39:30

twenty one when they were fifteen and a half, sixteen

39:33

point hundred dogs. And Michigan

39:35

offensively, like, this was not an

39:38

incredible performance. They averaged

39:40

seven yards per but J. T. McCarthy,

39:43

eleven for seventeen, a hundred and sixty one

39:45

yards, three touchdowns, one terrible interception.

39:48

Donovan Edwards finished with a hundred eighty five

39:50

yards rushing in a touchdown, but a lot of that

39:52

came in the second half. And two like, eighty

39:54

seven of those yards came on two runs, period,

39:56

the other twenty three. or how we got the other,

39:59

you know, ninety eight yards

39:59

there. So

40:02

it wasn't Michigan at its best,

40:04

but That's just

40:06

kind of how it is. Michigan doesn't have

40:08

to be at its best to beat Purdue. It

40:11

doesn't have to be at its best to beat most

40:13

of the teams in the big tens. So

40:15

I didn't really learn anything about

40:17

this team that we didn't already

40:20

know. It was just a solid performance by

40:22

the Wolverine's who cruise to a twenty

40:24

point one point win over. Purdue team that played

40:26

well, but didn't play damn near good

40:28

enough to beat the Wolverine's. I

40:30

Honestly,

40:30

and and Tom nailed the most

40:33

important point here. Right? In the open

40:35

field, Purdue moved the ball. In the compressed

40:37

area, her dude could not move it into

40:39

the end zone against Michigan. Like, that is really

40:42

all she wrote on this ballgame. But it

40:44

to me, didn't really feel like Michigan was

40:47

twenty one points better than Purdue for

40:49

most of the night, but I

40:51

also never really thought that Michigan

40:53

was going to lose Purdue, even when Purdue was

40:55

kind of flirting you know, the the game was

40:58

was pretty close at the half because

41:00

it very much felt to me like, oh,

41:02

Purdue just wasted its opportunities to win

41:04

this game. Like, it Purdue wanted to win the game.

41:06

It needed the cash in on those chances it had

41:09

in the first half make Michigan play

41:11

from behind, etcetera. It couldn't

41:13

do that. Like, it they're

41:15

just a lot better than than Purdue you

41:18

know, Purdue is a team that can make you have

41:20

some trouble in space in the depressed area

41:22

little tougher. Yeah. That that's the story

41:24

of Michigan's entire season. It's like, ah,

41:27

they were close, but you never actually thought they were

41:29

gonna lose. That's pretty much how their entire

41:31

season has gone. And if they weren't blowing people

41:33

out even when it was close, it never felt dangerous.

41:35

So how how

41:38

many eyes did we have on two lane

41:40

against against UCF? Every

41:43

time I looked up, two lane was scoring from, like,

41:45

eighty yards. So

41:48

this was a very interesting

41:51

situation because we

41:53

talked lot going into it about the quarterback.

41:56

the health of the quarterback room is Plumley gonna

41:58

play. It's Plumley gonna play. So Plumley

42:00

is gonna play. Mike Keene,

42:02

not even dressed out for this game. But

42:05

then Plumley gets bashed.

42:07

Like, bashed? It

42:10

or is he hurt? Is it is it because

42:12

he couldn't he was not effective running

42:15

the ball the same way he was when he had a hundred

42:17

and six yards against two lanes

42:19

defense the first time out. But

42:23

he gets benched. They go

42:25

to the true freshman, Cassilanos.

42:28

Right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. I

42:30

will say, this is name to note for you guys

42:32

out there. Okay? So Andrew Ivan's

42:35

and I had him at a lead eleven

42:38

last year in Orlando. He's a Georgia kid

42:40

played quarterback in high school, really

42:43

wanted to play quarterback. He had running

42:45

back offers or, like, athlete offers

42:47

from Georgia, Florida State, albert.

42:49

Like, he's that level of

42:51

athlete. Like, I've

42:53

if you if you're getting recruited to play running back for Georgia,

42:56

that that's a that's a different level of cat. Right?

42:58

but he wanted to play quarterback

43:00

Gus which runs that I don't wanna

43:02

call it Wing Tea, but it it's that's Ah,

43:04

there were some Wing Tea players that were

43:06

running. Yeah. Yes. So,

43:08

like, you you stick him in there. Long term, I'm very

43:10

high on him in that offense, because he can throw just

43:13

enough if you're not asking him to be more of, like,

43:15

a pure

43:16

dropback guy.

43:17

So I don't I

43:19

don't hate what they did there, but it's also

43:21

a freshman. Right? But he couldn't throw the ball

43:23

at all with Castellanos. And then they put

43:25

plumley back in, in the third quarter. And

43:27

all of a sudden, the passing game is open

43:30

in, like Which is a shock because he sucks at passing.

43:33

Like, there's nothing in in his record this year

43:35

that suggests he can throw the ball well. But it

43:37

was better than it was better

43:39

than what they had early in the game.

43:41

And so That's fair. you know,

43:43

UCF gets this thing all the way back to

43:46

thirty one twenty eight, but the UCF

43:48

defense was just getting diced. That's

43:51

by Michael Pratt all last three weeks.

43:53

It's been bad. Long. It is. The

43:55

explosive plays that he was able to hit

43:57

through this game were basically all throughout

44:00

Honestly, this could have been more of a blowout.

44:02

Tulane just had a couple of turnover on downs

44:04

in UCF territory, a couple

44:06

of turnovers, a lost fumble, and an interception,

44:09

like, two lane won this

44:11

game, and six hundred and

44:13

thirty one yards of offense.

44:16

They had only cracks five hundred once

44:19

this season, and it was against South Florida.

44:21

Like, Chip, they had I mean,

44:23

like, stat broadcast says, regardless, like,

44:26

six forty eight, six thirty one. He did it on

44:28

six forty eight. They did it on sixty

44:30

four playoff, of which was a kneel down.

44:32

Ten average. first down per

44:34

play.

44:35

Ten point one. And

44:36

that's the thing, like, I don't care

44:38

who UCF's quarterback was. Tulane

44:40

had a passing play of fifty four yards

44:43

of forty three yards. of seventy three

44:45

yards. Of sixty yards. They had a rushing play

44:47

of sixty. A rushing play of fifty six.

44:50

Like, it doesn't matter. there was

44:52

no beating too late in when your is

44:54

playing like that. And, I mean, UCS

44:56

defense for the most part for, like, the beginning

44:58

of the season had been playing very well.

45:01

And it just kinda I don't know if I don't

45:03

know if they've had injuries they've been dealing with or

45:05

what, but they fell off the face of the earth

45:07

the last few weeks, and it just kinda all culminated

45:09

today. They got steamrolled. there

45:12

there's been a couple of guys who've been banged up, but I

45:14

did not think they were, like, that level banged up.

45:16

You know, that that was that was just pointing

45:18

for sure. That was And,

45:20

like, late in this game, I mean,

45:23

somewhat late honestly, UCF cut this

45:25

to three. It was twenty four, twenty one at some

45:27

point, and then to Lane was, like,

45:29

bye. We're we're we're taking we're taking

45:31

this to a level you guys don't have today.

45:33

If Kate Club Nick had

45:35

been the quarterback, For

45:38

the regular season finale against South Carolina,

45:41

it's clumps college football playoff.

45:46

No.

45:49

It's a good It's a great question.

45:52

Because that's what a clumpson fan is a

45:54

clumpson fan is thinking right now that

45:56

if Kate had been the quarterback against

45:58

South Carolina, then Klumpson wins

46:00

that game. And if Kate started

46:03

the game against North Carolina, the result

46:06

is as lopsided. And Klumson shows

46:08

up on Reaction Sunday

46:11

as a one lost conference champion

46:13

with a quarterback change that

46:16

has sparked great results

46:19

and suggests that the tigers

46:22

are deserving to take

46:24

the spot that will be vacated by USC.

46:27

But

46:27

we have to grade on the scale. The

46:30

sliding scale of your playing North

46:32

Carolina

46:34

Like, we have seen backup

46:36

quarterbacks and third string quarterbacks

46:38

and fourth string quarterbacks lead

46:41

their offenses against this North Carolina

46:44

defense. So if I'm a collision

46:46

fan, thrilled with

46:48

what I saw from Club Nick. I'm thrilled about

46:50

the prospect of what I might see next

46:53

season. Got feeling good about

46:55

it. But if he was starting

46:57

last week, I don't know that it makes much of

46:59

a difference. If he'd been starting

47:01

all season, I don't think it makes that

47:03

much of a difference. Like, maybe you Maybe

47:06

you don't lose to South Carolina, but you might

47:08

have lost to somebody else along the way, so you might

47:10

have still been in the same boat. So

47:12

the

47:13

it's easy to play coulda woulda

47:16

shoulda, but I just I don't think Cleminson's

47:18

problems all stem from the quarterback.

47:20

It's something we've talked about all year. It's

47:22

this offense in general. It's It's

47:25

stodgy. It's predictable. And if

47:28

Klubnik had started all year as a

47:30

freshman, there would have been an adjustment

47:32

period and with the offense have been all that different

47:34

because we saw a club Nick at times. It's

47:37

not like he didn't play all year, and

47:39

it's not like he was tearing it up when he did

47:41

play. Well, that's what Davos said at

47:43

halftime. He was going to halftime, and he was,

47:45

like, you know, we we put him in

47:47

against another name and threw an interception.

47:50

So then we took him out. We put him

47:52

in here in this game. He played well.

47:54

So we're gonna keep riding with him. Mhmm.

47:56

So and North Carolina

47:58

super banged up.

48:02

I mean, I'm not making excuses.

48:04

They played

48:06

bad.

48:07

Oh. Vice caping for your heels.

48:10

That that is famously

48:12

what they do say. Yeah. Always

48:16

keeping for my beloved

48:18

heels and their conference USA defense.

48:21

Carolina's

48:25

conference USA defense. There's

48:28

some conference USA defense that would take offense

48:30

to to being compared to Carolina. It's

48:34

gonna say, let's power rate conference USA

48:37

defenses and figure out where we

48:39

were at. North Carolina. fine.

48:41

Do you do you want real jerk move this

48:44

is fake. So I don't know if you guys

48:46

can see this, but, like so

48:49

Carolina always calls around

48:51

big sporting events. They

48:54

do their fundraiser stuff. Yep.

48:57

You know? So it's like, oh, North Carolina's

48:59

playing the ACC championship game. Let's call all

49:01

the alumni. Like, this is this is the time when

49:03

we're gonna try to start getting the money.

49:06

Sorry, guys. You're all blank.

49:09

No pick up. Chip blocked

49:11

that number. No problem. I'll

49:14

I'll pledge a thousand dollars for every stop you

49:16

guys get. Alright.

49:22

Defensive is in the q set that I have

49:24

as

49:25

clearly worse than Carolina.

49:29

Charlotte?

49:31

Rice, Louisiana

49:33

Tech, FIU, Louisiana

49:36

Tech.

49:38

middle of the road conference USA

49:41

defense. I would say North Texas is

49:43

worse. Yeah. But

49:45

once you get past that, it kinda starts

49:48

getting I kinda have in that North

49:50

Texas, Middle Tennessee range. You

49:52

gotta start thinking about it, which

49:54

is not a good side. Good. You're on You

49:56

know who you know who is, like, probably having

49:58

a drink tonight and be, like, mhmm,

49:59

wouldn't

50:00

totally my fault. Okay, Nathan.

50:05

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Like, 0III

50:07

was the problem. I I was the guy who got fired. I

50:09

I think he's on Florida's staff now. Okay.

50:11

okay

50:12

Yeah. So

50:14

Hunter Johnson was 505

50:17

Hunter Johnson was 505 in the Carolinas

50:19

Deepgram tonight. He's, like, fifty years

50:22

old. Yeah.

50:24

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50:25

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50:28

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Elsewhere, Troy

51:41

gets to done. They finish out an eleven

51:44

and two season with a forty

51:46

five to twenty six win against coastal.

51:48

I I look Grayson will call

51:50

playoff Look. Right? an offense

51:53

was not clicking at all. Troy just

51:55

thumped the Chanticleers early

51:58

on. Fresno State brought

52:00

the pain to Boise.

52:03

Boise could not get anything going offensively

52:06

against the bulldogs, Jay Cainer,

52:08

gets himself a a Mountain West

52:11

conference championship win. Jeff

52:13

Tedford as well. Yep.

52:15

Toledo gets it done against Ohio.

52:17

What else stood out from conference championship

52:19

Saturday?

52:21

Troy threw the ball effectively.

52:24

today effectively is probably understating

52:26

us. They were twelve of seventeen for

52:29

three eighteen. That's

52:32

not bad. It's a quarterback rating for Ghana

52:34

Watson of two hundred and eighty six.

52:37

That that did not go to form at all. Like, I figured

52:39

that they would probably try to run a lot

52:41

when a defensive game, not let the

52:43

call run around on them, and they they

52:45

did run a lot. But they I

52:47

mean, they were up super early in this thing

52:49

that the tunnel yards that they don't really

52:52

tell us you know, like, they don't really tell us how they they were

52:54

up so early in this watching

52:56

just some huge throws of sixty

52:58

seven, sixty five. So show show her there.

53:01

Obviously, we'll see if we'll

53:03

see if Jamie Chadwell takes Liberty. Looks

53:07

like I mean, based

53:09

on where coastal was at today.

53:12

It was thirty one to nothing just after

53:14

the ten minute mark of the second border.

53:16

Yeah. Yeah. Good.

53:19

I mean, listen, this is reckless

53:21

and unfair, but my thought

53:23

was, like, Oh, he's gone.

53:25

He's going to kill it there. Oh,

53:28

Jamie Chadbrough is gonna kill it at liberty.

53:31

If

53:31

he goes there, Yeah. Like, think about

53:33

who else is in the CUSA. And,

53:37

I mean, you freeze just used that as a springboard

53:39

job. Granted, he already had the SEC experience, but

53:43

He's losing do all the job of that program.

53:46

And now

53:46

he's going to do a lesser league. Yeah. He's going

53:48

to do a lesser league, but he's gonna have more money there.

53:51

Correct. Yeah. Yeah. That's Liberty

53:54

in the Qsom might look like FSU

53:56

in the ACC in the in the early nineties

53:58

just where it's

54:00

like, are you guys Are you

54:01

guys investigating anything? Are you trying here? Like,

54:04

it's they if they do that right, they should

54:06

run through that league every year. So

54:08

though speaking

54:11

of coaching changes. Speaking

54:13

of expectations. What

54:16

are the expectations for Dion

54:18

Sanders? losing over

54:20

a Colorado. Okay.

54:23

So there's only two ways this can go. Right?

54:26

This is either he's competing and

54:28

playing for Pac twelve championship by

54:30

year three or

54:33

the war

54:34

failing spectacularly. Right?

54:36

There's no in between No.

54:39

Because I think that you can very quickly

54:41

get to a middling. I think that the

54:44

roster work that can be done by Dion

54:46

Sanders both in terms of who he brings with

54:48

him. The recruiting that he can

54:50

do out of high school, not necessarily immediately,

54:53

but at least in the two to three year window

54:55

and what he can do in the transfer

54:57

portal mean that this

54:59

Colorado program can

55:01

so quickly jump three to four

55:04

programs in the PAC twelve and

55:06

get to a win

55:09

three to four conference games a year

55:12

type position. Like, I think that Colorado

55:15

immediately can jump into

55:18

bowl contention. And I think

55:20

that it'll be very difficult to

55:22

get Colorado to the point where you are

55:25

been jumping ahead of the teams at the very

55:27

top of the pack twelve. I just think that the

55:29

with Cal, with Stanford, and

55:32

I love Arizona, but, like, I

55:34

think that there is a softer underbelly

55:37

that Dion Sanders and the personnel work

55:40

that he can do with this roster he will

55:42

be able to jump the buffs

55:44

out of the basement and at least

55:46

into that middle group immediately.

55:50

I don't know how much he's gonna be able to do in the transfer

55:52

portal at Colorado.

55:53

So this is interesting. Right? On on

55:55

on Friday, at at a Tiger,

55:58

right, who runs both stampede to our our twenty

56:00

four seven sports Colorado site. And this is

56:02

a really good job. Like, it it's hard to

56:04

find consistent quality Colorado coverage

56:06

out there. and they they do it on a shout out. I do wanna

56:08

give them a shout out. I was talking to him. I was

56:10

like, because he asked me for some quotes for

56:12

for article he's writing because he figured it would be

56:14

I think he had some good sources on that. And

56:16

I said, like, I need to know before I

56:18

give you these quotes, can

56:21

Colorado get transfers in?

56:23

Because everything I heard was that it was very difficult

56:25

for them to get transfers Instant that roster

56:27

ain't close to competing. So

56:29

he's like, yeah, from what we've been hearing, they

56:31

are going to have some changes in terms of who they allow

56:34

in. transfer wise and make the process

56:36

little bit easier. And I said, okay. Well, in

56:38

that case, I think Dion will probably

56:40

take fifteen, maybe eighteen transfers.

56:43

in your way. Right? Like, that that's

56:45

that's pretty clear. And if you look at it,

56:48

Dion got a lot of praise for

56:50

recruiting well at Jackson and

56:52

he had some extremely high profile wins,

56:54

like Travis Hunter.

56:56

However, I

56:57

think every

56:59

starter on the offensive line

57:01

or everyone about one. I look at at it this

57:03

morning. They were transfers down

57:06

from, you know, FBS Most

57:08

have not power five, at least FBS

57:10

down to the sweat, which is a

57:12

pretty bad FCS leak. Right? If you look kinda

57:15

power ratings that, like, Sagar and those guys put

57:17

out there. Jackson State is the exception

57:19

within

57:19

that league because they have a whole bunch of former

57:21

FBS players all of a sudden playing in

57:24

the slack as transfers.

57:26

how many high quality p five

57:28

transfers who

57:29

want a fresh start, who wanna come play for Dion

57:32

will go play for. I think there will

57:34

probably be a decent

57:36

number. But

57:37

I don't know that the success he had to jacks the

57:39

state as far as, like, dominating the league or

57:41

or just twenty two

57:43

out talent everybody or can you

57:45

out talent like Cal? Sure. Stanford,

57:47

I

57:48

believe Stanford is gonna change when I see

57:50

it. So I think Colorado could get

57:52

better than Stanford pretty quickly. Also,

57:54

Stanford's having a mass exodus. Some of

57:56

you guys have seen this like last three days. Stanford's

57:59

roster is getting cooked.

58:01

Colorado could jump ahead of Washington

58:03

Colorado could jump ahead of Oregon State. I don't think it'll

58:05

happen immediately. I don't think it'll be your one year. No.

58:07

So not in one year. But I'm saying, like, if we wanna

58:09

try to do a two to three year, like, what

58:11

is the ceiling for Colorado? I

58:13

have respect for what is happening

58:15

right now. Like, year one, Dan

58:17

Lenny in Oregon is impressive. Year one,

58:20

Caitlin DeBoer at Washington is impressive.

58:22

They inherited much better situations. Right.

58:25

But I'm just saying that it's, like, to assume

58:27

that especially in a division less

58:29

pack twelve that gonna

58:32

jump right to pack twelve championships I do

58:34

think that is getting ahead of your skis,

58:37

but I do think it's not gonna be hard to

58:39

at least jump into the place

58:41

where you are not in the basement

58:43

anymore with Deion Sanders.

58:45

So we we assume he's taken Shadur.

58:48

Right? Yes. And Trump Okay. -- do you think

58:50

he has to rerecruit it? You

58:52

sure on Travis? No. I'm not sure.

58:54

But you said it assumes, like, my assumption

58:57

is that we're gonna look at Hunter, we're gonna

58:59

look Sanders. We're gonna look at probably like

59:01

two to three other playoff, all leaving

59:04

with Dion to go to Colorado. So,

59:07

like, I don't know that these Jackson State offensive

59:09

linemen can playoff Colorado. Right?

59:12

Like, they a lot of them couldn't play at

59:14

Louisiana Monro. and Texas

59:16

state level programs. The the swag

59:18

is just such a lower level league

59:20

compared to even like

59:22

the bottom Sunbelt teams. Right?

59:24

I mean, this Jackson State team last year,

59:27

they lost Toulouse in Monroe.

59:29

Right?

59:30

the I don't

59:32

know exactly how many kids you can take off that roster.

59:34

Hunter will be interesting. If Hunter transfers,

59:37

there will be a ton of NIL come there.

59:39

Right? So that's that follows

59:41

him to to to Colorado. I

59:44

don't

59:44

know. We'll see. That's why I don't know if Travis

59:46

Hunter's following him to Colorado because when Travis Hunter

59:48

Athens will be interested, telehas to be interested.

59:51

Everybody will be interested if it's portal. When

59:53

Hunter went to Jackson playing

59:55

it in HBCU played a large

59:57

role in that decision. Colorado. I

59:59

mean, unless he's interested in playing in like a Patagonia

1:00:02

school, don't think really qualifies for

1:00:04

what he was looking for at Reaction

1:00:06

So I don't know that we

1:00:08

should assume that. I think it's possible. I mean, he

1:00:11

might really enjoy playing for Dion. He's a defensive

1:00:13

back, and Dion back in his day.

1:00:15

Kinda good as

1:00:16

a defensive back. Just Deion, you

1:00:19

know. So he could

1:00:21

follow it just I don't think we should assume that because

1:00:23

I do think if he's leaving Jackson State, like

1:00:25

Bud just said there's to be plenty of

1:00:27

interested suitors. Also,

1:00:30

the guys who transferred into Jackson State may

1:00:32

not be able transfer back if they don't have their their

1:00:34

degrees already. Right.

1:00:36

Because the you you only get one

1:00:38

free transfer. I I think as

1:00:40

long as Colorado is actually

1:00:43

relaxing his transfer rules. I

1:00:45

think he will improve the roster quite

1:00:47

a bit. I don't know who's in their

1:00:49

nonconference schedule for next year, probably should

1:00:51

look that up. live on air, I guess. But

1:00:54

it's not crazy to think that they

1:00:57

could make a bowl if he really kills

1:00:59

the transfer portal. but

1:01:01

that's gonna depend on their noncon. If they have

1:01:03

to go like, at TCUs, that's that's

1:01:05

tough. Okay.

1:01:06

Yeah. TCU,

1:01:07

Nebraska, Colorado

1:01:10

State. Cool.

1:01:12

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:14

I mean, in that case, I I would be surprised if

1:01:17

they make a bowl next

1:01:18

year. But I

1:01:20

think there'll be more competitive. I mean, they're they're a

1:01:22

bottom fifteen team in the country this year, guys.

1:01:24

Yeah. They are currently number two in my bottom twenty

1:01:27

five. if

1:01:28

Dion gets into, like, eighty fifth

1:01:30

next year, that's a pretty good job.

1:01:32

Mhmm. And that's reasonable

1:01:34

job if you have a decent quarterback.

1:01:37

I I assume should or win that job because they don't

1:01:39

have anybody right now.

1:01:40

the

1:01:42

I mean, Matt losing the Dion in Boulder.

1:01:49

I said, I will just be happy. I

1:01:51

tried to bet these guys. And it's a coaching

1:01:53

advantage for prime. Like, you

1:01:56

the

1:01:57

USC's back I got they they were a perfect spot

1:01:59

to cover against USC. USC's backups are just

1:02:01

and USC's not a deep team.

1:02:04

Right? USA pulls all starter just back

1:02:06

up, sir, and they're going up and down the field as Colorado

1:02:08

team. Utah could

1:02:10

have scored an eighty. if

1:02:12

they wanted to two weeks ago. Right? So

1:02:17

this roster a is it a tough spot? Also,

1:02:20

Colorado might not be as bad next year.

1:02:22

No.

1:02:25

I

1:02:25

just have Colorado and Nebraska playoff,

1:02:27

though, because I love that rivalry. over

1:02:29

wanna see how he does with high school kids, by the way.

1:02:31

Yeah. Like, can you get high school kids to Boulder?

1:02:35

I

1:02:39

think that if you were to

1:02:42

look for the, like, the x

1:02:44

axis and the y axis of where

1:02:47

like, what is the best job where

1:02:50

Dion will also be able to

1:02:52

have the most influence across the

1:02:55

institution in athletic department, Colorado

1:02:57

is probably

1:03:00

your maximum for both. That

1:03:02

was available. Is Deion,

1:03:04

Rick, George's fourth or fifth

1:03:06

football coach. Is

1:03:10

it a real sport trucker?

1:03:13

Rick George higher Mike Mack?

1:03:15

I think so.

1:03:20

So,

1:03:21

yeah, it's like his fourth or fifth coach.

1:03:24

I do not think that d I think that at

1:03:26

Colorado is able to

1:03:30

establish what he wants to establish

1:03:33

in a way that he might have faced

1:03:35

more backlash at Cincinnati.

1:03:41

how

1:03:41

The expectations in Cincinnati are also a

1:03:43

lot tougher. Right. Like,

1:03:46

if if

1:03:47

Dion doesn't work out at Colorado, it's

1:03:50

very easy for Dion to say, hey, man, I know what I'm

1:03:52

doing. I went I I won twenty

1:03:55

two ball games in two years Jackson State. I turned

1:03:57

that program totally around. Colorado was

1:03:59

just a hell hole when

1:03:59

I got here roster wise. and it's

1:04:01

very tough given the restrictions that

1:04:04

we have here. He

1:04:05

has an easy out. Cincinnati, if

1:04:07

they lose, it

1:04:08

looks bad because Cincinnati has been dominating its

1:04:10

league for quite a while, and now they're going

1:04:12

to do a much tougher league. In Cincinnati

1:04:14

has had success under multiple head coaches

1:04:17

in this century. Do we

1:04:19

think Cincinnati was, like, legitimately a choice

1:04:21

for Premier? I don't

1:04:22

know. But if nothing That was more like Colorado, USF.

1:04:24

And in Colorado, went to five million allegedly.

1:04:27

And then, you

1:04:29

know, if the if the money

1:04:31

was similar, I I think it goes to USF.

1:04:34

Oh, and USF just

1:04:36

got Golesh. Golesh.

1:04:39

Golesh. Mhmm. That's

1:04:40

done tonight officially. Yeah. I don't know

1:04:42

if it's official yet, but

1:04:46

that's that's very interesting. I mean, like,

1:04:48

I I figured they were they were gonna go figure out a head

1:04:51

coaching experience. They just took a an

1:04:53

office coordinator prior. from

1:04:55

an orange team.

1:04:57

Right.

1:04:59

But they will score

1:05:01

points, I think. the

1:05:04

the that that that

1:05:07

whole coaching tree is trying not to call that

1:05:09

the brows offense anymore for obvious reasons.

1:05:11

Like, if I were to say coach tree -- Okay. -- can't why.

1:05:14

And I I don't I I don't think the blush ever worked

1:05:16

for brows. So I don't wanna time to that. Right? They they

1:05:18

they wanna call it the beer and shoot now it's

1:05:21

probably fair to do so, you know.

1:05:23

Like,

1:05:24

Hypo never worked for him. Right? He just didn't

1:05:26

run the same scheme.

1:05:28

So

1:05:30

that thing wherever it goes seems to

1:05:32

score points almost always.

1:05:35

And unlike,

1:05:36

like, the Championship which does not seem

1:05:38

to score points wherever it goes. So I do think US Apple's

1:05:41

score points. I just don't

1:05:43

know enough about Golesh to say if he'll do a good

1:05:45

job with all the other things that come with

1:05:47

being head coach.

1:05:49

What what were the other options? They were just all in

1:05:51

on then? because, like, though, the way these

1:05:53

dominoes are falling, I was thinking maybe,

1:05:55

Tom Allen, if wanted to restart

1:05:57

the clock, like, keep if

1:05:59

they have

1:05:59

another year like this, are they are they really keeping

1:06:02

Tom Allen around for twenty four?

1:06:06

I don't

1:06:06

know. I mean, I don't know how it's

1:06:10

I don't

1:06:10

know what the situation is there honestly with

1:06:12

that going forward. I think that I would advise

1:06:14

he wins a couple more big ten games next

1:06:16

year at a minimum just to be safe.

1:06:20

So when we gather together tomorrow,

1:06:23

after the release of the college

1:06:25

football playoff semifinal match ups.

1:06:28

What do we think it looks like?

1:06:33

Georgia, Ohio State? Michigan,

1:06:35

TCUs. Michigan, TCU?

1:06:37

Mhmm.

1:06:38

George O'Halle stayed in the Peach Bowl, Michigan,

1:06:41

TCU, and the Fiesta.

1:06:43

And if there

1:06:45

is any surprise, what is it? I

1:06:49

won't be here.

1:06:54

I don't think we have a surprise.

1:06:57

I don't know I mean,

1:06:59

the only thing that would surprise me

1:07:02

is if USC shows up in the top

1:07:04

four because I really do not think

1:07:06

Alabama has a shot. no matter

1:07:08

how much people wanna pretend it does.

1:07:13

You ask

1:07:13

people stop pretty hard. I mean, obviously, losing,

1:07:16

but

1:07:17

I don't know, Chip, maybe seating, right,

1:07:19

in in that maybe

1:07:21

there's some people in the committee room who think

1:07:23

Ohio State over TCUs, we

1:07:25

should not

1:07:27

reward Georgia with Megan

1:07:29

in playoff state. Let's not have

1:07:31

a championship rematch. Let's have the rematch

1:07:33

be in the desert. Let's run that

1:07:37

the winner that goes in place, the winner door

1:07:39

to TCU. I maybe we could

1:07:41

add that. III could see that happening,

1:07:43

I guess. Yeah.

1:07:45

I mean, I mentioned last night that maybe they put

1:07:47

OHA! State of three simply for ratings Instant

1:07:51

Just to say, Ohio State Michigan,

1:07:53

Fiesta Ball, New Year's Eve.

1:07:55

Yeah. Because the title game's doing numbers no

1:07:57

matter who plays it at least this way you can maybe

1:07:59

juice a semi. Yeah.

1:08:02

Late lazy lazy take care. I don't

1:08:04

even wanna expand on it, but as

1:08:06

we sit here at the end of conference championship Saturday,

1:08:09

There's two thirteen to no teams. They've been

1:08:11

a really good BCS. Oh,

1:08:14

you don't say? So,

1:08:16

like, every other year. could've just put

1:08:18

two teams been done with it. Correct?

1:08:20

Just let's

1:08:20

just let's just let George and Michigan play?

1:08:22

Yeah. Let's just have the winner be

1:08:25

the national champion. Think

1:08:26

of all the headaches we'd have saved ourselves.

1:08:29

Oh, but the money, two

1:08:31

over four, two over four, or eight over

1:08:33

four, five

1:08:34

with it. I I just think four is

1:08:36

a bad number. Like, not

1:08:37

to go to that debate again at twelve thirty

1:08:39

night, but I

1:08:41

don't mind the BCS. It

1:08:43

generally worked.

1:08:45

Too late. Like, once

1:08:47

every decade, you had a third team that could

1:08:49

cry that it maybe deserved a shot, and it

1:08:51

would just legitimate cry, but I

1:08:53

would take that over this every

1:08:56

single damn time where I have Alabama

1:08:58

fans crying because their two laws teams

1:09:00

gonna get weft out. Okay. I

1:09:02

will say, if we do have video,

1:09:04

did you all see the viral video of the Ohio

1:09:06

State fan who threw the bottle at the wall? When

1:09:08

Ohio State was introduced as the number five

1:09:11

team and they ranking release video

1:09:13

from this past Tuesday? Yeah.

1:09:15

So it's sitting there and they show it on the screen

1:09:17

and they're like, number six. and they flash it

1:09:20

on the screen. Like, number five, they're high state

1:09:22

fuck guys. And you just hear this

1:09:24

glass chatter as a bottle

1:09:26

got thrown against the wall. on the Ben

1:09:28

ultimate playoff rankings.

1:09:31

And if I mean, if

1:09:34

if we get to see some some

1:09:36

televisions get punched and bottles get thrown

1:09:38

over Alabama being introduced

1:09:41

as dramatically as number five.

1:09:44

I'm not happy for the violence in

1:09:46

these households, but

1:09:49

I might laugh.

1:09:50

Not

1:09:52

a lot. I

1:09:54

think I'll probably throw a bottle if Alabama

1:09:56

shows up before. III

1:09:59

know that will happen.

1:09:59

Yeah. We'll

1:10:01

see.

1:10:02

Again, we will be back on

1:10:05

Sunday once we have the semifinal set.

1:10:07

We'll do a quick little preview of

1:10:09

both of those semifinals match ups.

1:10:12

Then on Monday, we

1:10:14

will have some full

1:10:17

reaction. Tom Finanelli, for those of you who've

1:10:19

been with us for a while, you know that

1:10:21

this man pours over

1:10:24

the bowl schedule and puts together the

1:10:26

comprehensive, the authoritative ranking

1:10:30

of every single bowl game. So that will

1:10:32

be Monday's show, our official

1:10:34

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1:10:36

courtesy of Tom Fornelly, our favorite match

1:10:38

ups. The ones that we're very excited

1:10:40

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1:10:43

of our coaching carousel news seems to be

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1:10:47

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