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I got about
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the nine ish eight fifty
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four minute mark in the fourth quarter, Michigan,
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holding on to point
1:48
lead against Purdue in the big ten championship
1:50
game. Climpson, putting things
1:53
on ice right now against
1:55
North Carolina, up thirty nine to ten.
1:57
lots to get to in both of those
1:59
games. Obviously, when they conclude, but
2:02
so much more to dive into
2:04
from championship Saturday. It got
2:06
started early as we had to go
2:08
to extra time World Cup
2:10
reference. Over time as
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Kansas State wins thirty one to
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twenty eight. A couple of a third down
2:17
and fourth down stops by the defense
2:19
comes through huge. Georgia
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puts a fifty burger on the board.
2:23
in the same building where they're probably about
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to play a semifinal and
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either we're efforting.
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Okay? I don't know if Nick Sabin
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will also be joining this show as
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he joined about four to five
2:37
other programs. with his crimson
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blazer, mid stump speech.
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I mean, even him and Urban Meyer yucking
2:44
it up, he went over to Fox.
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That's How desperate is
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Alabama to politics its way into
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the final four of the college football playoff
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committee rankings? Nick Sabin went
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to Fox. Good gravy.
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Lots to get to. Oh,
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yeah. And also, Colorado has
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now officially announced Dion Sanders
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as its new head coach. Shout out
3:07
to Tom Fornelly rocking the bust right there.
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We will have Colorado
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content coming up here shortly, but
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I kinda wanna begin with just like the
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game of Kansas State Is that
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cool with y'all? Yeah. Yeah. It was a good
3:22
game. Because that's the thing is, like,
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this is a phenomenal contest.
3:27
It's the second straight year that this Big
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twelve title game has been a
3:31
thriller, a banger. And
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this time, that had national championship
3:35
implications. What
3:38
did this Kansas State
3:40
team show you? Because
3:43
Already, the defense is banged up coming
3:45
into the game. We have more injuries on
3:47
the defensive side of the ball. We have Malik
3:49
Knowles come up with one of the,
3:51
like, huge explosive plays in this game,
3:53
and then he ends up getting knocked out with an
3:55
injury. What did this Kansas State
3:57
team do well in order
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to get this big twelve championship. The
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program's first outright
4:04
championship since two thousand three. They shared
4:07
a championship in two thousand twelve. but
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a a incredible program
4:11
mark for Kansas State. What
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in this game did Kansas State do well
4:16
and impress you with?
4:19
I thought they answered really well. I thought
4:21
they stuck to their game plan for the most part
4:23
even when guys went out and they leaned
4:25
on their best players. Right? They get down
4:27
seven nothing early. They punch back
4:30
with Knowles. Knowles gets hurt. They're like, alright.
4:32
You know what? We're gonna find different ways
4:34
to get the ball and do Swan's and
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they did. And I thought they
4:39
converted their critical times better
4:41
than TCU did in this game. TCU
4:43
had more yards TCU had a
4:45
higher yards for playoff. But I think
4:47
when we look at the, like, the real high leverage downs,
4:50
we're gonna see that Kansas State
4:52
was really good in those situational spots. It
4:54
looked like really well coached team. And, you
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know, we said on Wednesday, can
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I have a suspicion that that Kansas State might
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be the best team in the big twelve?
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And they did not
5:05
get it done the way I thought they would get it done even
5:07
though the game went under barely.
5:10
Because they only had, what, I think, two tackles
5:12
from loss in in Reaction, and I I thought their defense
5:15
of line would make a bigger impact.
5:17
I I thought creative play calling was
5:19
was great for them and they they
5:21
went out and got it done by getting the Polydues hands
5:24
What are you you touched it? Twenty
5:27
twenty
5:27
nine touches, I think. And yeah. It
5:30
number one, passing option two. Mhmm. like,
5:32
let's put him in a slot. Let's flex him out wide.
5:34
Let's throw it to him out of the back field. Like, it was
5:37
it it was the Marshall Faulkian. Like,
5:39
the way they were running him downfield from, like,
5:41
motion out to the slot, and then not just throw him little,
5:43
like, bubble or or slip stuff. And
5:46
he's running post routes for these guys. As as
5:48
a five foot five dude, that's That
5:50
was wild.
5:52
Yeah. TCUs,
5:54
I still don't agree that Kansas State's the best team
5:57
in the Big twelve. I mean, they
5:59
won the game. They deserved
5:59
to win the game. They played very well, but
6:02
they beat TCU by three points in
6:04
overtime after TCU at twelve and
6:06
l. in the regular season in the big In score
6:08
to touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
6:11
that's your thing too. Yeah. And and
6:13
TCU missed a favorable ball, like, ended
6:15
past the plane. Yeah. The GCU
6:17
missed a field goal had a touchdown that
6:19
didn't count for reasons.
6:23
had a kind of a weird spot even before that,
6:25
which they were down at the one inch line and they got
6:27
the ball in about the full yard line.
6:29
Just Again, Kansas State's
6:31
a very good team. Kansas State did
6:33
nothing wrong today that did that would make me
6:35
say they didn't deserve to win this game. They
6:38
did. Chris Climate and the wildcat should
6:40
be thrilled. I just don't know if today's
6:42
result proves to me that they actually were
6:44
the best team in the Big twelve. I think they were
6:46
just the better team today. and
6:48
that TCU was the better team on the entire
6:50
season. So the one thing you set out
6:52
the one thing you set out to me was that, like,
6:54
nothing was easy for TCU.
6:57
No. That's where you've gotta really because
6:59
this is one of the most explosive offenses in
7:01
the entire country, and everything
7:03
felt so laborious. for
7:06
TCU as it moved down the field. I mean, just
7:08
like hero ball from Max
7:10
Dugan to be able to try and
7:12
will this thing into even
7:14
getting to the overtime period, I
7:17
just I I thought that Kansas State did
7:19
a really good job of sending
7:22
a lot of pressure, putting a lot of heat
7:24
on ducking, making life difficult. You
7:27
can't get those downfield
7:30
passing plays if he's running
7:32
for his life and doesn't have the time for
7:34
those playoff to develop, Kansas State
7:36
was gambling on that. Okay. We're banged up in the
7:38
defensive back field. That's cool. Let's just
7:41
Sanders and let's figure out a way to
7:43
be able to make this thing happen. I thought that
7:46
being able to make it so difficult
7:48
for TCU to even get to twenty
7:50
eight points in regulation and,
7:53
like, how exhausting it seemed for
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TCE to get there was
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it was a a credit to you know,
8:00
Kansas State's game plan both before
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and then also in the game once things unfold.
8:04
Do you know what do you know what this do you know what today
8:06
was if we want to include last night's trip?
8:08
if we look at Caleb Williams and Max
8:11
Dug in and Jaden Daniels, the name
8:13
is a real gut check Saturday. Gotcha.
8:16
Sorry. No. Like,
8:18
Max Duggin in this game. Look,
8:20
he he he was going full Jay
8:22
Haynor where, like, he he
8:24
looked like he was died out there
8:27
for his team struggled to get
8:29
up, but wouldn't but the help came. He's waved
8:31
him off. He's like, no. No. I could
8:33
do it. I could do it on my own. And
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it was just It was very inspiring.
8:37
It was very gritty. Did you hear how
8:40
they broke out in the cuts? Yes.
8:42
Yeah. Holly's cut. He's
8:44
Coddy. He's playoff it everywhere. I count
8:47
it at least seven. I love Holly. I'm like, you
8:49
know, Holly's like, I hear like, I count seventeen
8:51
or eighteen Knicks and Cuts on this man.
8:55
He's got her chart out. She's like, well, there's one on the side.
8:57
Look at, like, a forensics report. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. That's very strange. I see bruises.
9:02
I see I see strawberries.
9:05
I see rug burn, turf burn. But,
9:08
no, he was he dude. He
9:10
was beat the hell up, and he gutted it
9:12
out because he knew how important this game was, and
9:14
how important it was for them, and they
9:17
came up short. Because like you said, can't state?
9:19
Like, the reason he was bang up is because
9:21
Kansas State was making everything hard.
9:24
Kansas State's defense is salty
9:26
as hell they made TCUs. C. work for
9:28
every single inch that they got. It
9:31
wore them down and at the end of the game.
9:33
When they needed just a yard to finish
9:35
it off or win the game, they couldn't
9:37
get it or
9:38
they couldn't get it convincingly because
9:41
they were just worn down by Kansas State's
9:43
defense.
9:44
I I do think they got it, by the way. Hold
9:46
on. Yeah. Yeah. When he extended the
9:48
ball across the playoff? Like Yes.
9:51
I mean, if you go, like, by the definition
9:53
of a touchdown.
9:55
Okay. That was one. Sure. I I
9:57
yeah. I I grew there. I
10:00
will
10:00
say, I don't I don't hate the play call
10:02
other than the fact that, like, you are
10:04
so close to to the Golan. I would like
10:06
to see a sneak there or at least to like
10:09
the option for the for the sneak that on
10:11
the one, it did look to me like like he
10:13
had a natural bubble over, like, between
10:15
the the garden center there because they really weren't playing
10:18
somebody shaded right over the center.
10:20
So I thought maybe maybe you could sneak that
10:22
in there But I do wanna point out,
10:24
like, Kinderpillar has been an excellent
10:26
short yardage pack all year. Go
10:28
watch the Baylor game. Right? Go watch
10:30
the Texas game. Miller when they used short yardage
10:32
stuff was really pretty damn good for them
10:35
all years. I don't I don't hate putting the ball in his
10:37
hands.
10:40
Oh, you mean, like, as opposed to the
10:42
the dug and sneak, which was -- Yeah. -- the sort
10:45
of, like, refrain was, like,
10:47
why don't you just let
10:48
your big old thick quarterback get up
10:50
in there and just sort of stuff it and see if he can,
10:53
you
10:53
know, take care of business. because he was like
10:55
dying. because then he was
10:57
exhausted.
10:59
So hit that part. You
11:02
know, we are gonna do some some
11:04
more, like, college football playoff slash
11:07
rankings predictions a little bit later
11:09
on in the show. But
11:12
since we just discussed it,
11:15
TCU still
11:17
in. Right? Yeah.
11:19
Yes. Okay. TCUs
11:22
has two better wins than anything Alabama has,
11:25
at least, maybe three. TCU's
11:27
loss is also better
11:30
than either of Alabama's losses. k?
11:33
That's a loss to a team at Beat already.
11:35
Correct. It's a loss of team of beat. It's
11:37
a loss in overtime by three.
11:39
The Tennessee team that beat Alabama got
11:42
its doors blown off. three
11:44
weeks later. Okay? The Tennessee
11:46
team or the LSU team that beat Alabama
11:49
went on to
11:50
the, like, crap against Arkansas. to
11:52
lose because gets the terrible A and M
11:54
team and then get his stores blown
11:57
off by Georgia. That kind of
11:59
stuff is out of Alabama's control, but what is in
12:01
Alabama's control is beating those teams or
12:03
or not, and they didn't do it. Like, they don't
12:05
have good wins by the
12:07
power ratings, which was Nick Sabin's argument tonight.
12:10
Alabama is going to be power rated over
12:12
TCUs, in mind too, by the way.
12:14
And I've had to manually drop them some
12:16
because I'm tired of losing money on Alabama on
12:19
on these these big games because Vegas has them
12:21
overrated. I do too. Here's
12:23
the thing though. Even if you wanna take those
12:25
power ratings, Use those power ratings
12:28
as the rating that you use for team
12:30
quality, and then put that
12:32
in your resume model. What you're gonna find
12:34
is that TCU comes out way ahead. Mhmm.
12:36
Because BAMA just does not have the wings this
12:38
year. Like, they're this is not the test case
12:40
for the committee to throw to throw the first ever two
12:42
loss team. And I I'm I would
12:45
be absolutely floored tomorrow and
12:47
not like an outrage standpoint, but just like I would
12:49
I would be shocked if they put the Alabama in
12:51
over TCU.
12:52
Also, if the college football playoff is
12:54
just gonna consist of teams that have high
12:56
power ratings who we think are capable of winning
12:59
a national title, Well, then
13:01
let's just pick the four teams in August
13:03
because we got pretty good idea who they are,
13:05
and we'll just won't play the regular season.
13:07
We'll just play the playoff in August and call it
13:09
a year. Do you know who would have been in on
13:11
some polls? The
13:13
series. The equities. Yeah. Yeah.
13:16
how would that have worked out? Right.
13:19
And and like the thing with the power ratings is
13:21
the best power ratings are always gonna incorporate
13:23
priors. from last year and the year
13:26
before, and honestly a little bit of
13:28
three years ago too. And they're never gonna
13:30
take out fully the recruiting rankings,
13:32
but for this year, like, this
13:34
is the national title year of this
13:36
year, not of some amalgamation
13:38
of the prior four years. I'll mix the match and
13:40
and get the right the right waiting on it. I
13:43
don't really care how good your recruits were if
13:45
I'm picking the teams to play in playoff for
13:47
this year's national title. I care how well
13:49
those recruits played in
13:51
the twelve or thirteen games that you played.
13:53
So There's a simple path oh,
13:56
sorry.
13:56
Oh, go ahead. As I
13:57
said, there's a simple path to reach the college football
13:59
playoff.
14:01
your games and don't
14:03
lose any of them. If
14:04
you lose one, you could still make it.
14:07
You gotta hope for your help elsewhere. You
14:09
lose twice shut up and live
14:11
with it, period.
14:15
So Nick Sabin's arguments included
14:18
provide context for what
14:20
happened early in the season. And
14:23
number two, how good are
14:25
you at the end of the season? to
14:27
which I asked, how good was
14:30
Alabama at the end of the season?
14:36
Not great. I mean, not one of the four
14:38
best teams in the country. I
14:40
mean, they they finished with three wins.
14:42
Sure. But I you know,
14:45
you gotta throw out the you gotta
14:47
throw out the awesome p game. Oh,
14:50
no. You can't. I mean, they were they're dominant
14:53
in that performance chip. You can't overlook Austin
14:55
P. That's a solid FCS program there.
14:58
Iron Bowl was
15:02
a
15:02
team with an interim coach.
15:05
I mean But I mean but mean
15:07
even the performance. Right? Like, Let's just judge
15:09
Alabama against its standard.
15:11
Would would they win by twenty three?
15:13
Yep. Mhmm. I
15:15
mean, honestly, Arkansas winning
15:18
at Auburn by a similar
15:20
score. A Auburn punch went in very
15:23
late on the road. I mean, when before
15:25
Auburn was was crazy banged up. It's
15:27
just as impressive. They they don't have
15:29
the good wins. Who
15:31
who is BAMA's best win this year?
15:33
Texas. Texas. Okay. So so
15:35
by one on the road against Texas back of
15:37
quarterback. Mhmm. TCUs back. TCU
15:39
beat by seven on the road against Texas.
15:41
With it starting quarterback. Yeah.
15:44
alright. That's not even that's not even by the way.
15:46
That's not their best win. No. I think
15:48
I think their best win is probably Kansas State.
15:51
Yes. So What
15:53
about the TCU Ohio
15:55
State debate?
15:58
I was not aware we had we we were gonna
16:00
have this debate. what do
16:01
you mean you were not aware? Like, oh oh, do you mean
16:03
like who should be in or who should be higher? Who should be
16:05
higher? Like, if if you're gonna go ahead and
16:07
then we're gonna say, alright. So USC's
16:10
out the paint. We have made the Alabama
16:12
argument even despite, you know, TCU
16:15
losing. TCU is still going to be in the
16:17
top four. So who
16:19
goes to put before we pivot to the SEC
16:21
championship where Georgia put a,
16:23
again, fifty burger on the board.
16:27
Who wins that one because those
16:29
are two one loss teams. TCU
16:31
has twelve wins. Ohio State has
16:33
eleven wins. TCU,
16:36
easy. It's got the better
16:38
it's got better overall wins. It's got the stronger
16:41
strength of schedule. It has one loss
16:43
by three points at overtime to a team that beat
16:45
in the regular season. Ohio state's
16:47
loan loss was at home by three scores
16:49
against the team missing its best player on
16:51
offense. Ohio State has no argument
16:53
to be ranked ahead of TCU. TCU
16:56
played in its conference championship. Ohio State
16:58
didn't even win its division.
17:00
Yeah. Ohio station before.
17:05
That's fine. I think Tom just nailed it. Yeah. I
17:07
I maybe not quite
17:09
as clear as as what Tom has, but ultimately,
17:11
I I think he's right on this. Right? I
17:14
don't know that I have that much to add if you think about this in
17:16
in Instant at least Ohio
17:19
State was more dominant than BAML was. Like, they
17:21
they won every game by double
17:23
digits. But just kinda so
17:25
so let's let's think about this. Right?
17:27
Right. And and not
17:29
that Vegas is always right because
17:31
they're not, but
17:32
they're already posting lines now
17:34
for
17:35
for Michigan, TCUs. Okay?
17:37
And they're already posting lines
17:39
for Georgia, Ohio State.
17:41
So we
17:42
kinda have a pretty good feeling of how this is
17:44
going to go Nobody's posting lines for
17:46
Alabama right now, by the way.
17:48
But TCU
17:50
is gonna be about A98 and a half, somewhere
17:52
in that range. Maybe it gets up to ten. against
17:54
Michigan, which is fair. Let's
17:57
say Michigan team won by twenty one
18:00
on
18:00
the road at Ohio State, your
18:03
your loss to Kansas State was by
18:05
three. And over time, if you
18:06
kind of back out those power ratings, I still think
18:08
it's it's fair that that recent loss
18:11
is certainly worse than the recent loss
18:13
suffered by TCU. So
18:16
TCU should be three, a high station
18:18
before.
18:20
I think that's what what'll happen. Yeah.
18:23
I
18:24
I would like to point out submitting the comment does make
18:26
a good point. High State was without
18:28
its top running backs in that game too. Strike
18:31
Michigan was
18:32
still able to run the ball. So
18:34
without it stopped running back, it still played
18:36
better than Ohio State did without it stopped running
18:39
back.
18:41
apples
18:41
to apples. Apple
18:43
sauce. Let's
18:46
go. So speaking
18:49
of the number one team in the country,
18:52
the Georgia Bulldogs, who we
18:54
assume, will be in a
18:56
semifinal matchup against Ohio State,
18:58
which, I mean, sign
19:00
me up. Let's go. Main
19:03
line that right to my
19:05
veins. Kirby
19:07
Smart, Ryan Day, Ohio
19:10
State message boards after Georgia wins
19:12
by thirty five? No. I'm skinny. I'm
19:15
skinny.
19:20
Only because it was here on the Instant reaction
19:22
show that we really got to dive into the Ryan Day
19:24
issue. I feel like we were ahead of it and
19:26
everybody else kinda followed suit in
19:29
terms of understanding how ridiculous that got
19:31
to the point where I even saw
19:33
I even seen out here in these streets
19:36
the like, what
19:37
about Mike Vrabeel? Maybe
19:39
we can just like scare Ryan Day
19:41
off to the NFL and then just go throw
19:43
money at Mike Vrabeel. I mean, that's the good
19:45
stuff right there. But you know
19:47
what though? Like, we I I don't think
19:49
it's happening. Mike Fravo would
19:51
kill it if he got the Ohio State
19:54
job. Yeah. A
19:56
hundred percent.
19:58
you wanna talk about a team that's always
20:01
going to be tough. You
20:03
wanna talk about a team that is not gonna get
20:05
bullied. Like, it is we always
20:07
talk about the the pendulum swinging and
20:09
the past the chalk and the ways that all these
20:12
things influence each other. if Ohio
20:14
State gets bullied one more
20:16
time by Jim Harbaugh's
20:18
Michigan, they're gonna cook
20:20
it my frable and they're gonna stop recruiting
20:22
five Star wide receivers. Mhmm. They're just
20:25
gonna go back into mass u mode.
20:27
That's cool.
20:28
That's that's that's what's gonna happen. I
20:30
I hope that everyone has enjoyed this
20:32
modern approach that Ryan Day has brought
20:34
to Ohio State because that is going
20:36
to go right back in time. the
20:38
second that they lose one more game to Jim Harbaugh's
20:41
Michigan if it happens in bully fashion like
20:43
it has the last two times. So
20:46
Georgia,
20:47
puts fifty on the board against
20:50
LSU. LSU a little bit spunky.
20:52
You know, Nussmeyer comes in there Instant
20:55
get get low yeah. Get
20:57
a couple scores late playoff some yellow
20:59
ball. But what did the
21:01
Bulldog show you here? You know, those
21:04
or some bananas plays early
21:06
that that provided plenty of entertainment
21:10
may be altered the way this game played
21:12
out. but did Georgia after,
21:15
you know, the close
21:17
win against Kentucky where
21:19
the offense can't, like, quite
21:21
punch it in. Can't get it done in short yard
21:24
situations. Slow start against
21:26
Georgia Tech. They poured on late. did
21:28
Georgia come out and give you a performance that
21:31
had you inspired
21:34
by by the Bulldogs as the number one team
21:36
in the country?
21:39
Yeah.
21:39
III would say for most part,
21:41
right, that the first, I don't know,
21:43
six or seven minutes were were maybe not incredibly
21:45
impressive. from Georgia. The look,
21:48
you you you you get the fuel oil return,
21:50
which felt kind of fluekey.
21:52
You you got the helmet interception, which again
21:55
felt a little bit strange to me. But
21:57
ultimately, Georgia dominated the the this
22:00
game in the first half. The
22:02
a key stat, III parsed out here.
22:04
So LSU had a hundred
22:06
and sixty yards before
22:09
Georgia went up thirty five to seven,
22:12
and it had four hundred yards.
22:14
after getting down thirty five to
22:16
seven. So while it wasn't technically
22:18
by the definition of garbage time. Garbage
22:21
time, it very much was
22:23
like pseudo garbage time for
22:25
the final thirty minutes. And don't think that
22:27
the fifty to thirty score is
22:30
necessarily reflective of
22:32
the true level of play that we saw from
22:34
these teams from about minute five to minute
22:36
thirty, which is really where the game was
22:39
to side. Yeah.
22:40
We Georgia did what we seen it do
22:42
a lot this year. We saw it do it to Tennessee.
22:45
Like, when it got up thirty five to seven, it
22:47
knew the game was over. Jaiden Daniels
22:49
was barely able to walk as they were getting that
22:51
last second field goal before the half break
22:53
there. And George
22:55
and knew it was like, okay. Well, unless
22:57
we do some of the dumbest stuff that
22:59
we've ever done. There is no
23:01
way in the world. LSU is coming
23:03
back to beat us right now. So the second half
23:05
came out and wasn't, like, totally
23:08
just go into a shell and just hand
23:10
off for the last thirty minutes, but they weren't
23:12
really doing anything two
23:14
risk and offense defensively. They were just
23:17
dropping back. They were just like, okay. Cool.
23:19
Just don't give up big playoff. Force them to
23:21
go down the field time and time again
23:23
Instant bunch playoff. burn clock.
23:25
They won't have a chance. And then when we need to score,
23:27
we'll go score. And that's pretty much how it worked. And
23:29
that was I mean, that's why I came in. hit
23:31
some big shots. Keishan Boody made some big
23:33
plays. The receivers got open, made some
23:35
guys miss, and turned it into big plays that
23:38
led the points. So I'll credit to LSU for doing
23:40
it. But I don't think George's
23:42
defensive game plan in the second half
23:44
was what
23:45
you would have seen from them if this
23:47
game was still close. I
23:50
would agree with that. I thought Steppen
23:52
Bennett was was really good tonight. I
23:54
mean, Caitlin, I mean, Caitlin.
23:56
Hi, Pat. Excellent.
23:59
cable when the high has
23:59
been
24:00
pretty sure, but sets
24:03
of minimum was damn good. Like like, just
24:05
the the accuracy not
24:08
really putting the ball at risk. I mean, yeah, the key
24:10
maybe had one that that that Elijio guy
24:12
even had a shot at, ran the offense
24:14
efficiently.
24:15
I was I was pretty impressed.
24:17
I I don't
24:19
wanna bag on LSU because LSU has
24:21
had great season. especially given
24:23
their their preseason expectations. And their
24:25
win total was was six.
24:27
They were picked fifth in the division.
24:29
Right. Exactly. And I think collectively,
24:32
we thought that was probably low, but
24:34
not like, hey, they should they're gonna win the division
24:36
low. More like, there's a real shot
24:38
that a win seven or maybe a games type type
24:40
thing if if things
24:42
break right. My
24:43
wife Sanders, she fan, obviously, she
24:46
goes how bad is this
24:48
league that were playing for the title this
24:50
year?
24:51
I was like, hey, that's a fair point.
24:54
Like, did you get her on the show? this is yeah.
24:56
Seriously. Like, this is one of
24:58
the worst SECs we've seen in several
25:01
decades overall. But that doesn't
25:03
mean that Georgia is not like,
25:05
super killer good. I think they probably
25:08
are. I mean, they're they're clear, like,
25:10
power ratings wise, like, thirty above
25:12
average. And their ceiling is probably
25:14
like a thirty five. You know, like, that's
25:16
really, really good. But
25:18
the rest of the league is just not there. And,
25:22
I mean, do we think this result would have been any different
25:24
against BAMA? Or if they had to play Tennessee
25:26
again? I I really don't. No. I
25:28
don't
25:28
think BAM has got the dudes on the outside to
25:30
really test this defense enough. I mean, that's
25:33
I think the one thing that LSU has that Alabama
25:35
doesn't, that could give him somewhat of, you know,
25:37
a chance in this one. But as
25:39
far as Georgia, like, I was doing
25:41
HQ half time for TCUs, and,
25:44
you know, Tommy Tran mentioned on to
25:46
how they went from. I think it was, like, minus
25:48
one sixty to win the national
25:50
title earlier today to minus one
25:52
thirty after TCU's
25:54
loss because that we knew Ohio State was in
25:56
or don't know. Because Ohio State yeah.
25:59
Because Ohio State gets in, it shortens
26:01
George's odds because Ohio State's more dangerous
26:03
than whatever the other fourth team would have been. and
26:06
my first instinct was, gimme it.
26:09
If I can get Georgia better odds that I could
26:11
have this sporty because they're still the best
26:13
team in the country. And Just
26:15
thinking about, like, we were you mentioned
26:17
chips kind of as a joke. Like, just thinking about what
26:19
Michigan did to Ohio State. If Ohio
26:21
State's gotta play Georgia in the first round,
26:24
I
26:24
think Ohio State can give Georgia problems,
26:27
but I do think Georgia can also
26:29
bully Ohio State. and
26:31
I think Michigan is a very good team if
26:33
it gets past But
26:35
Georgia is Michigan just with more
26:37
talent. and TCU we've seen has
26:39
struggled, and I don't think TCU is gonna be
26:41
Georgia either. So it's
26:43
the best team in the country to me. Time
26:45
and time again, it has proven to me that I think
26:48
the most dominant team in the country, no
26:50
disrespect to Michigan, which is also still undefeated
26:52
and is pulling away from Purdue here
26:54
in the final minutes. But I just don't
26:56
think it's at Georgia's level. Like, we saw what
26:58
happened last year when those two teams met. Even
27:01
though I think that this team this Georgia
27:03
team is slightly worse and this Michigan team is
27:05
slightly better, I just don't
27:07
think they've closed the gap nearly enough.
27:10
When Jalen Carter lifted
27:13
Jaden Daniels into
27:15
the sky. Shannon Daniels
27:17
is not a tiny man. No.
27:19
Oh, he's skinny, but but he he's not
27:22
short. he there's, like, the rep
27:24
just blow it. Like, I won't I won't throw
27:26
him to the ground. Like, those are legitimate
27:28
professionals. They are professionals and
27:30
that they will be playing in the NFL, but
27:32
they are professionals and that they're already on
27:34
that, like, hold on. No. No. No. I got it.
27:37
He's not going anywhere. I'm just gonna sit
27:39
here and bear hog him till you blow the whistle,
27:41
and we're just gonna keep things moving. Alright,
27:43
gentlemen. Let's go.
27:45
Jade and Daniels does that to you. What do you do?
27:49
if
27:49
Jane like, bear hugs
27:51
me and lifts me in the sky. Just start told you
27:53
in the sky like you're like his toy. Oh, no,
27:55
jailing. Jalen Carter does that. I'm sorry.
27:57
Jalen Carter. Yeah. You
28:01
know, actually, my instinct would be
28:03
to thrash which would only make
28:05
it worse. I
28:07
understand that it will, you know This is the
28:09
piece chip. Yeah. Yeah. like,
28:12
your options are to go limp or thrash.
28:14
And I I will tell you that I would rather
28:17
I would rather thrash. and
28:18
just end it faster.
28:21
But at least if you go lip, it might
28:23
just put you down. Yeah. That's true.
28:26
Well, IIIA hundred percent understand.
28:29
But I've I'm with the rasher. I can't
28:31
I can't help it. Just kind of instinctive
28:33
right there. I would just be like, is there anything else
28:35
I could do for you, sir? I
28:38
mean, it is
28:40
so impressive. The way
28:42
that and that Georgia
28:44
defense started the year
28:46
you know, we've got, like, you know,
28:49
new change up in leadership, so
28:51
much turnover from the personnel perspective.
28:54
they are not as, you know, advanced in
28:57
terms of, you know, just it's
28:59
more like line it up, go get it, just be better
29:02
than everyone as opposed So, like, really
29:04
being highly advanced with your twist, your stance,
29:06
your communications, your checks,
29:08
like and
29:09
I think they're getting better.
29:11
I I think they are adding
29:14
to their repertoire as they get
29:16
here late in the season. And
29:18
we're gonna give this team a
29:21
month off, not a month. We're gonna
29:23
give this team twenty eight days
29:25
off to prepare for
29:28
Ohio State I I
29:30
think they're gonna be just fine. But
29:32
I say it's got a killer offense, but
29:35
I think they can cause some problems for the Buckeyes.
29:38
it it forgot to nitpick it. LSG's
29:41
receivers did have some success in the storage
29:43
corners. So I
29:46
do think I'll have to state his better receivers if
29:48
JSN decided he wanted to playoff, that would be,
29:51
I mean, huge. I don't think that's going to happen,
29:53
obviously. But I'm
29:55
not sure that Georgia's corners are as good as
29:57
as they have been in prior years. So
29:59
maybe
29:59
Ohio State can get them some there. I
30:03
do think that Georgia probably
30:05
has to blitz to get pressure
30:07
on Ohio State, which means you may get some more
30:09
of those one on ones. I don't know that
30:11
Georgia's pass rush is all that
30:13
good. We we talked about they're
30:16
they're non they're non blitz pass rush, just to be
30:18
clear. I think Georgia's blitz packages are are are freaking
30:20
awesome. And I do think that Ohio
30:22
State's office of tackles are better than
30:25
LSU's. LSU's are freshman and they
30:27
got exposed some tonight.
30:28
Well, this afternoon, I guess. Ohio
30:31
states are not bad. Speaking
30:33
of all of the tackles, by the way, McClendon
30:35
goes down for
30:36
Georgia, and
30:37
Ameris MEMS steps is
30:41
just as good. Right?
30:42
It was just it
30:43
was crazy. Like, you just believed everybody
30:45
out of the way like, the physicality George
30:48
plays with, it does look different from
30:50
every other team out there, basically. Michigan
30:53
occasionally plays
30:55
that, but I think Georgia does it more often.
31:00
So we've got a couple finals
31:03
now. Michigan forty
31:05
three. Purdue twenty
31:09
two. We will continue with our championship
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33:51
the final in in
33:54
Indianapolis means
33:56
back to back, oh, it's not.
34:02
I mean, that's
34:06
amazing. you've gone o and
34:08
eighteen in locks the last
34:10
two weeks. And if we wanna go back to three
34:12
weeks, you are two and
34:14
twenty five. I
34:17
was forty nine and
34:19
thirty nine on the season
34:23
at the conclusion of week eleven.
34:25
Mhmm.
34:29
two and twenty
34:31
five and twenty five.
34:35
You're the overall unit leader through week
34:37
seven. Mhmm. You
34:39
just I mean,
34:42
Listen,
34:43
I challenge anybody to go to in twenty
34:45
five. Try it. Yeah. See if you
34:47
could do it. You won't. You
34:49
ain't as good as Chip. Chip is
34:52
Ifinam. He virtueoso.
34:56
You can't can't get
34:58
any can't
35:01
get any low I mean, the the season's over.
35:03
At least the season's over. At
35:06
least I am not allowed to offer another
35:09
regular season locks. I mean, I went, like,
35:11
what, three and eight this week, and I'm, like, yeah,
35:14
at least I didn't go and nine.
35:17
It's so funny because it's so
35:21
much time has spent covering this sport.
35:25
And some of the losses, like, yeah, like,
35:27
are way off. But there's
35:29
others, like if TCU had
35:34
the touchdown that We
35:37
all admitted on this show earlier was
35:39
a touchdown. That's
35:41
an over.
35:44
That's true. That's too bad.
35:46
That's too bad because that's one of the few bets I
35:48
got right this week. So cry
35:51
me a river.
35:55
on the We
35:57
we almost hit the middle. Yeah.
35:59
It's truly almost. because they would not have kicked the extra
36:02
point. It would've been Yeah. If if the industry
36:04
just scored a touchdown and it was just, like, right
36:06
there at sixty two. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Incredibly.
36:09
Chip. Chip knows. Chip. been
36:12
running the Chipolitics. He knows. He's running
36:14
the Chipolitics. was very, very
36:16
aware of the And I had to
36:18
do HQ for postgame. So I'm sitting
36:21
there, like, live on camera. There
36:24
is documentation in the vault
36:27
of me just sitting there watching
36:29
this all crumble. Alright. Chip,
36:31
I'm gonna give you something here.
36:33
Right. You
36:34
actually had good picks this week. You
36:37
didn't play in the game. All you can do
36:39
is make your Instant then we'll see
36:41
where the market weighs in and what the game
36:43
closes at. Alright?
36:46
Now, can't
36:46
say over? Not
36:48
the right one. Go it the other way. Yeah.
36:50
Coastal, you
36:51
took eight and a half to close six and a half.
36:54
That's a great bet. If you could,
36:56
you should bet more on that. It got blown away?
36:59
Sure. Boise
37:00
three, what Boise closed? Three eggs
37:02
and juice? So, like, not on the
37:04
wrong side of of where that's closing.
37:07
Ohio plus two. Boise played like some
37:09
dumbasses, though. So Yeah.
37:11
Ohio plus two with Finn. you
37:13
know, like, that's that that
37:14
moved that line, but, like, obviously, the call
37:17
moved that. UCF closed. Were they
37:19
closed? Three? Yeah.
37:20
So you you took UCF four.
37:22
They closed three. You beat the market by a full point
37:24
on on to a key number three. And then thirty
37:26
one twenty eight. Things looks a little spicy,
37:28
but yikes. Yeah. Almost sideways.
37:31
LSG, Georgia took under fifty two. It closed
37:33
fifty one and a half, thirty seven fifty
37:35
ones out there. So, again,
37:37
not on the wrong side of the move there. Per
37:39
digits seventeen, it closed fifteen. Again,
37:42
that's a good bet. UNC plus seven
37:44
and a half, it closed seven, looks like
37:46
six and half at circa which will take, like,
37:48
fifty thousand at regain time. CLV CLV
37:51
does not buy you ice cream. No. But
37:54
if you're losing chips picks here, like, this week,
37:56
like, last week, I'm not really sure about
37:58
Chip's picks last week.
37:59
This week, I looked at it. I'm like, damn,
38:01
Chip had some really bad luck this week. Like, if you
38:03
faded Chip's picks this week, you won
38:07
if you phase somebody's picks to go seven and two
38:09
CLV every
38:10
week,
38:11
you're probably to filing bankruptcy.
38:14
Chip is fond of saying that the sharps are wrong
38:16
forty percent of the time. The super
38:18
sharps are wrong one hundred percent of the
38:20
time. Okay? Anyway,
38:23
that's enough of that. That that that that's
38:25
just for the people who came, who
38:27
who listened to us every single Diagon
38:29
week. We've had, like, nine hundred
38:32
episodes or something where we've been
38:34
breaking down all of our picks. So
38:37
if you're with us for that, then I'm sure
38:39
you enjoy that. If you came for football
38:41
analysis, what did Michigan show us
38:43
against Purdue?
38:46
It's the best team in the Big Ten. I mean, it's
38:48
this was Purdue came out really
38:51
well in the first half and made this
38:53
a game, but this was really a pretty
38:56
simple story. Like, Michigan
38:59
finished its drives, Purdue
39:01
did not. And that
39:03
was the know, that that's
39:06
told the whole tale. Like, Michigan, every
39:08
time it got into into Purdue territory,
39:10
its score to touchdown. I don't know the
39:13
final count, but I know the last time I checked
39:15
for Du had gotten inside the Michigan
39:17
thirty six times, had
39:19
one touchdown, four field goals,
39:21
and an interception. you
39:23
are not going to pull off an upset
39:26
that way, and that's exactly
39:28
what they did not do. They ended up losing by
39:30
twenty one when they were fifteen and a half, sixteen
39:33
point hundred dogs. And Michigan
39:35
offensively, like, this was not an
39:38
incredible performance. They averaged
39:40
seven yards per but J. T. McCarthy,
39:43
eleven for seventeen, a hundred and sixty one
39:45
yards, three touchdowns, one terrible interception.
39:48
Donovan Edwards finished with a hundred eighty five
39:50
yards rushing in a touchdown, but a lot of that
39:52
came in the second half. And two like, eighty
39:54
seven of those yards came on two runs, period,
39:56
the other twenty three. or how we got the other,
39:59
you know, ninety eight yards
39:59
there. So
40:02
it wasn't Michigan at its best,
40:04
but That's just
40:06
kind of how it is. Michigan doesn't have
40:08
to be at its best to beat Purdue. It
40:11
doesn't have to be at its best to beat most
40:13
of the teams in the big tens. So
40:15
I didn't really learn anything about
40:17
this team that we didn't already
40:20
know. It was just a solid performance by
40:22
the Wolverine's who cruise to a twenty
40:24
point one point win over. Purdue team that played
40:26
well, but didn't play damn near good
40:28
enough to beat the Wolverine's. I
40:30
Honestly,
40:30
and and Tom nailed the most
40:33
important point here. Right? In the open
40:35
field, Purdue moved the ball. In the compressed
40:37
area, her dude could not move it into
40:39
the end zone against Michigan. Like, that is really
40:42
all she wrote on this ballgame. But it
40:44
to me, didn't really feel like Michigan was
40:47
twenty one points better than Purdue for
40:49
most of the night, but I
40:51
also never really thought that Michigan
40:53
was going to lose Purdue, even when Purdue was
40:55
kind of flirting you know, the the game was
40:58
was pretty close at the half because
41:00
it very much felt to me like, oh,
41:02
Purdue just wasted its opportunities to win
41:04
this game. Like, it Purdue wanted to win the game.
41:06
It needed the cash in on those chances it had
41:09
in the first half make Michigan play
41:11
from behind, etcetera. It couldn't
41:13
do that. Like, it they're
41:15
just a lot better than than Purdue you
41:18
know, Purdue is a team that can make you have
41:20
some trouble in space in the depressed area
41:22
little tougher. Yeah. That that's the story
41:24
of Michigan's entire season. It's like, ah,
41:27
they were close, but you never actually thought they were
41:29
gonna lose. That's pretty much how their entire
41:31
season has gone. And if they weren't blowing people
41:33
out even when it was close, it never felt dangerous.
41:35
So how how
41:38
many eyes did we have on two lane
41:40
against against UCF? Every
41:43
time I looked up, two lane was scoring from, like,
41:45
eighty yards. So
41:48
this was a very interesting
41:51
situation because we
41:53
talked lot going into it about the quarterback.
41:56
the health of the quarterback room is Plumley gonna
41:58
play. It's Plumley gonna play. So Plumley
42:00
is gonna play. Mike Keene,
42:02
not even dressed out for this game. But
42:05
then Plumley gets bashed.
42:07
Like, bashed? It
42:10
or is he hurt? Is it is it because
42:12
he couldn't he was not effective running
42:15
the ball the same way he was when he had a hundred
42:17
and six yards against two lanes
42:19
defense the first time out. But
42:23
he gets benched. They go
42:25
to the true freshman, Cassilanos.
42:28
Right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. I
42:30
will say, this is name to note for you guys
42:32
out there. Okay? So Andrew Ivan's
42:35
and I had him at a lead eleven
42:38
last year in Orlando. He's a Georgia kid
42:40
played quarterback in high school, really
42:43
wanted to play quarterback. He had running
42:45
back offers or, like, athlete offers
42:47
from Georgia, Florida State, albert.
42:49
Like, he's that level of
42:51
athlete. Like, I've
42:53
if you if you're getting recruited to play running back for Georgia,
42:56
that that's a that's a different level of cat. Right?
42:58
but he wanted to play quarterback
43:00
Gus which runs that I don't wanna
43:02
call it Wing Tea, but it it's that's Ah,
43:04
there were some Wing Tea players that were
43:06
running. Yeah. Yes. So,
43:08
like, you you stick him in there. Long term, I'm very
43:10
high on him in that offense, because he can throw just
43:13
enough if you're not asking him to be more of, like,
43:15
a pure
43:16
dropback guy.
43:17
So I don't I
43:19
don't hate what they did there, but it's also
43:21
a freshman. Right? But he couldn't throw the ball
43:23
at all with Castellanos. And then they put
43:25
plumley back in, in the third quarter. And
43:27
all of a sudden, the passing game is open
43:30
in, like Which is a shock because he sucks at passing.
43:33
Like, there's nothing in in his record this year
43:35
that suggests he can throw the ball well. But it
43:37
was better than it was better
43:39
than what they had early in the game.
43:41
And so That's fair. you know,
43:43
UCF gets this thing all the way back to
43:46
thirty one twenty eight, but the UCF
43:48
defense was just getting diced. That's
43:51
by Michael Pratt all last three weeks.
43:53
It's been bad. Long. It is. The
43:55
explosive plays that he was able to hit
43:57
through this game were basically all throughout
44:00
Honestly, this could have been more of a blowout.
44:02
Tulane just had a couple of turnover on downs
44:04
in UCF territory, a couple
44:06
of turnovers, a lost fumble, and an interception,
44:09
like, two lane won this
44:11
game, and six hundred and
44:13
thirty one yards of offense.
44:16
They had only cracks five hundred once
44:19
this season, and it was against South Florida.
44:21
Like, Chip, they had I mean,
44:23
like, stat broadcast says, regardless, like,
44:26
six forty eight, six thirty one. He did it on
44:28
six forty eight. They did it on sixty
44:30
four playoff, of which was a kneel down.
44:32
Ten average. first down per
44:34
play.
44:35
Ten point one. And
44:36
that's the thing, like, I don't care
44:38
who UCF's quarterback was. Tulane
44:40
had a passing play of fifty four yards
44:43
of forty three yards. of seventy three
44:45
yards. Of sixty yards. They had a rushing play
44:47
of sixty. A rushing play of fifty six.
44:50
Like, it doesn't matter. there was
44:52
no beating too late in when your is
44:54
playing like that. And, I mean, UCS
44:56
defense for the most part for, like, the beginning
44:58
of the season had been playing very well.
45:01
And it just kinda I don't know if I don't
45:03
know if they've had injuries they've been dealing with or
45:05
what, but they fell off the face of the earth
45:07
the last few weeks, and it just kinda all culminated
45:09
today. They got steamrolled. there
45:12
there's been a couple of guys who've been banged up, but I
45:14
did not think they were, like, that level banged up.
45:16
You know, that that was that was just pointing
45:18
for sure. That was And,
45:20
like, late in this game, I mean,
45:23
somewhat late honestly, UCF cut this
45:25
to three. It was twenty four, twenty one at some
45:27
point, and then to Lane was, like,
45:29
bye. We're we're we're taking we're taking
45:31
this to a level you guys don't have today.
45:33
If Kate Club Nick had
45:35
been the quarterback, For
45:38
the regular season finale against South Carolina,
45:41
it's clumps college football playoff.
45:46
No.
45:49
It's a good It's a great question.
45:52
Because that's what a clumpson fan is a
45:54
clumpson fan is thinking right now that
45:56
if Kate had been the quarterback against
45:58
South Carolina, then Klumpson wins
46:00
that game. And if Kate started
46:03
the game against North Carolina, the result
46:06
is as lopsided. And Klumson shows
46:08
up on Reaction Sunday
46:11
as a one lost conference champion
46:13
with a quarterback change that
46:16
has sparked great results
46:19
and suggests that the tigers
46:22
are deserving to take
46:24
the spot that will be vacated by USC.
46:27
But
46:27
we have to grade on the scale. The
46:30
sliding scale of your playing North
46:32
Carolina
46:34
Like, we have seen backup
46:36
quarterbacks and third string quarterbacks
46:38
and fourth string quarterbacks lead
46:41
their offenses against this North Carolina
46:44
defense. So if I'm a collision
46:46
fan, thrilled with
46:48
what I saw from Club Nick. I'm thrilled about
46:50
the prospect of what I might see next
46:53
season. Got feeling good about
46:55
it. But if he was starting
46:57
last week, I don't know that it makes much of
46:59
a difference. If he'd been starting
47:01
all season, I don't think it makes that
47:03
much of a difference. Like, maybe you Maybe
47:06
you don't lose to South Carolina, but you might
47:08
have lost to somebody else along the way, so you might
47:10
have still been in the same boat. So
47:12
the
47:13
it's easy to play coulda woulda
47:16
shoulda, but I just I don't think Cleminson's
47:18
problems all stem from the quarterback.
47:20
It's something we've talked about all year. It's
47:22
this offense in general. It's It's
47:25
stodgy. It's predictable. And if
47:28
Klubnik had started all year as a
47:30
freshman, there would have been an adjustment
47:32
period and with the offense have been all that different
47:34
because we saw a club Nick at times. It's
47:37
not like he didn't play all year, and
47:39
it's not like he was tearing it up when he did
47:41
play. Well, that's what Davos said at
47:43
halftime. He was going to halftime, and he was,
47:45
like, you know, we we put him in
47:47
against another name and threw an interception.
47:50
So then we took him out. We put him
47:52
in here in this game. He played well.
47:54
So we're gonna keep riding with him. Mhmm.
47:56
So and North Carolina
47:58
super banged up.
48:02
I mean, I'm not making excuses.
48:04
They played
48:06
bad.
48:07
Oh. Vice caping for your heels.
48:10
That that is famously
48:12
what they do say. Yeah. Always
48:16
keeping for my beloved
48:18
heels and their conference USA defense.
48:21
Carolina's
48:25
conference USA defense. There's
48:28
some conference USA defense that would take offense
48:30
to to being compared to Carolina. It's
48:34
gonna say, let's power rate conference USA
48:37
defenses and figure out where we
48:39
were at. North Carolina. fine.
48:41
Do you do you want real jerk move this
48:44
is fake. So I don't know if you guys
48:46
can see this, but, like so
48:49
Carolina always calls around
48:51
big sporting events. They
48:54
do their fundraiser stuff. Yep.
48:57
You know? So it's like, oh, North Carolina's
48:59
playing the ACC championship game. Let's call all
49:01
the alumni. Like, this is this is the time when
49:03
we're gonna try to start getting the money.
49:06
Sorry, guys. You're all blank.
49:09
No pick up. Chip blocked
49:11
that number. No problem. I'll
49:14
I'll pledge a thousand dollars for every stop you
49:16
guys get. Alright.
49:22
Defensive is in the q set that I have
49:24
as
49:25
clearly worse than Carolina.
49:29
Charlotte?
49:31
Rice, Louisiana
49:33
Tech, FIU, Louisiana
49:36
Tech.
49:38
middle of the road conference USA
49:41
defense. I would say North Texas is
49:43
worse. Yeah. But
49:45
once you get past that, it kinda starts
49:48
getting I kinda have in that North
49:50
Texas, Middle Tennessee range. You
49:52
gotta start thinking about it, which
49:54
is not a good side. Good. You're on You
49:56
know who you know who is, like, probably having
49:58
a drink tonight and be, like, mhmm,
49:59
wouldn't
50:00
totally my fault. Okay, Nathan.
50:05
Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Like, 0III
50:07
was the problem. I I was the guy who got fired. I
50:09
I think he's on Florida's staff now. Okay.
50:11
okay
50:12
Yeah. So
50:14
Hunter Johnson was 505
50:17
Hunter Johnson was 505 in the Carolinas
50:19
Deepgram tonight. He's, like, fifty years
50:22
old. Yeah.
50:24
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50:25
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50:28
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50:30
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50:33
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51:41
gets to done. They finish out an eleven
51:44
and two season with a forty
51:46
five to twenty six win against coastal.
51:48
I I look Grayson will call
51:50
playoff Look. Right? an offense
51:53
was not clicking at all. Troy just
51:55
thumped the Chanticleers early
51:58
on. Fresno State brought
52:00
the pain to Boise.
52:03
Boise could not get anything going offensively
52:06
against the bulldogs, Jay Cainer,
52:08
gets himself a a Mountain West
52:11
conference championship win. Jeff
52:13
Tedford as well. Yep.
52:15
Toledo gets it done against Ohio.
52:17
What else stood out from conference championship
52:19
Saturday?
52:21
Troy threw the ball effectively.
52:24
today effectively is probably understating
52:26
us. They were twelve of seventeen for
52:29
three eighteen. That's
52:32
not bad. It's a quarterback rating for Ghana
52:34
Watson of two hundred and eighty six.
52:37
That that did not go to form at all. Like, I figured
52:39
that they would probably try to run a lot
52:41
when a defensive game, not let the
52:43
call run around on them, and they they
52:45
did run a lot. But they I
52:47
mean, they were up super early in this thing
52:49
that the tunnel yards that they don't really
52:52
tell us you know, like, they don't really tell us how they they were
52:54
up so early in this watching
52:56
just some huge throws of sixty
52:58
seven, sixty five. So show show her there.
53:01
Obviously, we'll see if we'll
53:03
see if Jamie Chadwell takes Liberty. Looks
53:07
like I mean, based
53:09
on where coastal was at today.
53:12
It was thirty one to nothing just after
53:14
the ten minute mark of the second border.
53:16
Yeah. Yeah. Good.
53:19
I mean, listen, this is reckless
53:21
and unfair, but my thought
53:23
was, like, Oh, he's gone.
53:25
He's going to kill it there. Oh,
53:28
Jamie Chadbrough is gonna kill it at liberty.
53:31
If
53:31
he goes there, Yeah. Like, think about
53:33
who else is in the CUSA. And,
53:37
I mean, you freeze just used that as a springboard
53:39
job. Granted, he already had the SEC experience, but
53:43
He's losing do all the job of that program.
53:46
And now
53:46
he's going to do a lesser league. Yeah. He's going
53:48
to do a lesser league, but he's gonna have more money there.
53:51
Correct. Yeah. Yeah. That's Liberty
53:54
in the Qsom might look like FSU
53:56
in the ACC in the in the early nineties
53:58
just where it's
54:00
like, are you guys Are you
54:01
guys investigating anything? Are you trying here? Like,
54:04
it's they if they do that right, they should
54:06
run through that league every year. So
54:08
though speaking
54:11
of coaching changes. Speaking
54:13
of expectations. What
54:16
are the expectations for Dion
54:18
Sanders? losing over
54:20
a Colorado. Okay.
54:23
So there's only two ways this can go. Right?
54:26
This is either he's competing and
54:28
playing for Pac twelve championship by
54:30
year three or
54:33
the war
54:34
failing spectacularly. Right?
54:36
There's no in between No.
54:39
Because I think that you can very quickly
54:41
get to a middling. I think that the
54:44
roster work that can be done by Dion
54:46
Sanders both in terms of who he brings with
54:48
him. The recruiting that he can
54:50
do out of high school, not necessarily immediately,
54:53
but at least in the two to three year window
54:55
and what he can do in the transfer
54:57
portal mean that this
54:59
Colorado program can
55:01
so quickly jump three to four
55:04
programs in the PAC twelve and
55:06
get to a win
55:09
three to four conference games a year
55:12
type position. Like, I think that Colorado
55:15
immediately can jump into
55:18
bowl contention. And I think
55:20
that it'll be very difficult to
55:22
get Colorado to the point where you are
55:25
been jumping ahead of the teams at the very
55:27
top of the pack twelve. I just think that the
55:29
with Cal, with Stanford, and
55:32
I love Arizona, but, like, I
55:34
think that there is a softer underbelly
55:37
that Dion Sanders and the personnel work
55:40
that he can do with this roster he will
55:42
be able to jump the buffs
55:44
out of the basement and at least
55:46
into that middle group immediately.
55:50
I don't know how much he's gonna be able to do in the transfer
55:52
portal at Colorado.
55:53
So this is interesting. Right? On on
55:55
on Friday, at at a Tiger,
55:58
right, who runs both stampede to our our twenty
56:00
four seven sports Colorado site. And this is
56:02
a really good job. Like, it it's hard to
56:04
find consistent quality Colorado coverage
56:06
out there. and they they do it on a shout out. I do wanna
56:08
give them a shout out. I was talking to him. I was
56:10
like, because he asked me for some quotes for
56:12
for article he's writing because he figured it would be
56:14
I think he had some good sources on that. And
56:16
I said, like, I need to know before I
56:18
give you these quotes, can
56:21
Colorado get transfers in?
56:23
Because everything I heard was that it was very difficult
56:25
for them to get transfers Instant that roster
56:27
ain't close to competing. So
56:29
he's like, yeah, from what we've been hearing, they
56:31
are going to have some changes in terms of who they allow
56:34
in. transfer wise and make the process
56:36
little bit easier. And I said, okay. Well, in
56:38
that case, I think Dion will probably
56:40
take fifteen, maybe eighteen transfers.
56:43
in your way. Right? Like, that that's
56:45
that's pretty clear. And if you look at it,
56:48
Dion got a lot of praise for
56:50
recruiting well at Jackson and
56:52
he had some extremely high profile wins,
56:54
like Travis Hunter.
56:56
However, I
56:57
think every
56:59
starter on the offensive line
57:01
or everyone about one. I look at at it this
57:03
morning. They were transfers down
57:06
from, you know, FBS Most
57:08
have not power five, at least FBS
57:10
down to the sweat, which is a
57:12
pretty bad FCS leak. Right? If you look kinda
57:15
power ratings that, like, Sagar and those guys put
57:17
out there. Jackson State is the exception
57:19
within
57:19
that league because they have a whole bunch of former
57:21
FBS players all of a sudden playing in
57:24
the slack as transfers.
57:26
how many high quality p five
57:28
transfers who
57:29
want a fresh start, who wanna come play for Dion
57:32
will go play for. I think there will
57:34
probably be a decent
57:36
number. But
57:37
I don't know that the success he had to jacks the
57:39
state as far as, like, dominating the league or
57:41
or just twenty two
57:43
out talent everybody or can you
57:45
out talent like Cal? Sure. Stanford,
57:47
I
57:48
believe Stanford is gonna change when I see
57:50
it. So I think Colorado could get
57:52
better than Stanford pretty quickly. Also,
57:54
Stanford's having a mass exodus. Some of
57:56
you guys have seen this like last three days. Stanford's
57:59
roster is getting cooked.
58:01
Colorado could jump ahead of Washington
58:03
Colorado could jump ahead of Oregon State. I don't think it'll
58:05
happen immediately. I don't think it'll be your one year. No.
58:07
So not in one year. But I'm saying, like, if we wanna
58:09
try to do a two to three year, like, what
58:11
is the ceiling for Colorado? I
58:13
have respect for what is happening
58:15
right now. Like, year one, Dan
58:17
Lenny in Oregon is impressive. Year one,
58:20
Caitlin DeBoer at Washington is impressive.
58:22
They inherited much better situations. Right.
58:25
But I'm just saying that it's, like, to assume
58:27
that especially in a division less
58:29
pack twelve that gonna
58:32
jump right to pack twelve championships I do
58:34
think that is getting ahead of your skis,
58:37
but I do think it's not gonna be hard to
58:39
at least jump into the place
58:41
where you are not in the basement
58:43
anymore with Deion Sanders.
58:45
So we we assume he's taken Shadur.
58:48
Right? Yes. And Trump Okay. -- do you think
58:50
he has to rerecruit it? You
58:52
sure on Travis? No. I'm not sure.
58:54
But you said it assumes, like, my assumption
58:57
is that we're gonna look at Hunter, we're gonna
58:59
look Sanders. We're gonna look at probably like
59:01
two to three other playoff, all leaving
59:04
with Dion to go to Colorado. So,
59:07
like, I don't know that these Jackson State offensive
59:09
linemen can playoff Colorado. Right?
59:12
Like, they a lot of them couldn't play at
59:14
Louisiana Monro. and Texas
59:16
state level programs. The the swag
59:18
is just such a lower level league
59:20
compared to even like
59:22
the bottom Sunbelt teams. Right?
59:24
I mean, this Jackson State team last year,
59:27
they lost Toulouse in Monroe.
59:29
Right?
59:30
the I don't
59:32
know exactly how many kids you can take off that roster.
59:34
Hunter will be interesting. If Hunter transfers,
59:37
there will be a ton of NIL come there.
59:39
Right? So that's that follows
59:41
him to to to Colorado. I
59:44
don't
59:44
know. We'll see. That's why I don't know if Travis
59:46
Hunter's following him to Colorado because when Travis Hunter
59:48
Athens will be interested, telehas to be interested.
59:51
Everybody will be interested if it's portal. When
59:53
Hunter went to Jackson playing
59:55
it in HBCU played a large
59:57
role in that decision. Colorado. I
59:59
mean, unless he's interested in playing in like a Patagonia
1:00:02
school, don't think really qualifies for
1:00:04
what he was looking for at Reaction
1:00:06
So I don't know that we
1:00:08
should assume that. I think it's possible. I mean, he
1:00:11
might really enjoy playing for Dion. He's a defensive
1:00:13
back, and Dion back in his day.
1:00:15
Kinda good as
1:00:16
a defensive back. Just Deion, you
1:00:19
know. So he could
1:00:21
follow it just I don't think we should assume that because
1:00:23
I do think if he's leaving Jackson State, like
1:00:25
Bud just said there's to be plenty of
1:00:27
interested suitors. Also,
1:00:30
the guys who transferred into Jackson State may
1:00:32
not be able transfer back if they don't have their their
1:00:34
degrees already. Right.
1:00:36
Because the you you only get one
1:00:38
free transfer. I I think as
1:00:40
long as Colorado is actually
1:00:43
relaxing his transfer rules. I
1:00:45
think he will improve the roster quite
1:00:47
a bit. I don't know who's in their
1:00:49
nonconference schedule for next year, probably should
1:00:51
look that up. live on air, I guess. But
1:00:54
it's not crazy to think that they
1:00:57
could make a bowl if he really kills
1:00:59
the transfer portal. but
1:01:01
that's gonna depend on their noncon. If they have
1:01:03
to go like, at TCUs, that's that's
1:01:05
tough. Okay.
1:01:06
Yeah. TCU,
1:01:07
Nebraska, Colorado
1:01:10
State. Cool.
1:01:12
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
1:01:14
I mean, in that case, I I would be surprised if
1:01:17
they make a bowl next
1:01:18
year. But I
1:01:20
think there'll be more competitive. I mean, they're they're a
1:01:22
bottom fifteen team in the country this year, guys.
1:01:24
Yeah. They are currently number two in my bottom twenty
1:01:27
five. if
1:01:28
Dion gets into, like, eighty fifth
1:01:30
next year, that's a pretty good job.
1:01:32
Mhmm. And that's reasonable
1:01:34
job if you have a decent quarterback.
1:01:37
I I assume should or win that job because they don't
1:01:39
have anybody right now.
1:01:40
the
1:01:42
I mean, Matt losing the Dion in Boulder.
1:01:49
I said, I will just be happy. I
1:01:51
tried to bet these guys. And it's a coaching
1:01:53
advantage for prime. Like, you
1:01:56
the
1:01:57
USC's back I got they they were a perfect spot
1:01:59
to cover against USC. USC's backups are just
1:02:01
and USC's not a deep team.
1:02:04
Right? USA pulls all starter just back
1:02:06
up, sir, and they're going up and down the field as Colorado
1:02:08
team. Utah could
1:02:10
have scored an eighty. if
1:02:12
they wanted to two weeks ago. Right? So
1:02:17
this roster a is it a tough spot? Also,
1:02:20
Colorado might not be as bad next year.
1:02:22
No.
1:02:25
I
1:02:25
just have Colorado and Nebraska playoff,
1:02:27
though, because I love that rivalry. over
1:02:29
wanna see how he does with high school kids, by the way.
1:02:31
Yeah. Like, can you get high school kids to Boulder?
1:02:35
I
1:02:39
think that if you were to
1:02:42
look for the, like, the x
1:02:44
axis and the y axis of where
1:02:47
like, what is the best job where
1:02:50
Dion will also be able to
1:02:52
have the most influence across the
1:02:55
institution in athletic department, Colorado
1:02:57
is probably
1:03:00
your maximum for both. That
1:03:02
was available. Is Deion,
1:03:04
Rick, George's fourth or fifth
1:03:06
football coach. Is
1:03:10
it a real sport trucker?
1:03:13
Rick George higher Mike Mack?
1:03:15
I think so.
1:03:20
So,
1:03:21
yeah, it's like his fourth or fifth coach.
1:03:24
I do not think that d I think that at
1:03:26
Colorado is able to
1:03:30
establish what he wants to establish
1:03:33
in a way that he might have faced
1:03:35
more backlash at Cincinnati.
1:03:41
how
1:03:41
The expectations in Cincinnati are also a
1:03:43
lot tougher. Right. Like,
1:03:46
if if
1:03:47
Dion doesn't work out at Colorado, it's
1:03:50
very easy for Dion to say, hey, man, I know what I'm
1:03:52
doing. I went I I won twenty
1:03:55
two ball games in two years Jackson State. I turned
1:03:57
that program totally around. Colorado was
1:03:59
just a hell hole when
1:03:59
I got here roster wise. and it's
1:04:01
very tough given the restrictions that
1:04:04
we have here. He
1:04:05
has an easy out. Cincinnati, if
1:04:07
they lose, it
1:04:08
looks bad because Cincinnati has been dominating its
1:04:10
league for quite a while, and now they're going
1:04:12
to do a much tougher league. In Cincinnati
1:04:14
has had success under multiple head coaches
1:04:17
in this century. Do we
1:04:19
think Cincinnati was, like, legitimately a choice
1:04:21
for Premier? I don't
1:04:22
know. But if nothing That was more like Colorado, USF.
1:04:24
And in Colorado, went to five million allegedly.
1:04:27
And then, you
1:04:29
know, if the if the money
1:04:31
was similar, I I think it goes to USF.
1:04:34
Oh, and USF just
1:04:36
got Golesh. Golesh.
1:04:39
Golesh. Mhmm. That's
1:04:40
done tonight officially. Yeah. I don't know
1:04:42
if it's official yet, but
1:04:46
that's that's very interesting. I mean, like,
1:04:48
I I figured they were they were gonna go figure out a head
1:04:51
coaching experience. They just took a an
1:04:53
office coordinator prior. from
1:04:55
an orange team.
1:04:57
Right.
1:04:59
But they will score
1:05:01
points, I think. the
1:05:04
the that that that
1:05:07
whole coaching tree is trying not to call that
1:05:09
the brows offense anymore for obvious reasons.
1:05:11
Like, if I were to say coach tree -- Okay. -- can't why.
1:05:14
And I I don't I I don't think the blush ever worked
1:05:16
for brows. So I don't wanna time to that. Right? They they
1:05:18
they wanna call it the beer and shoot now it's
1:05:21
probably fair to do so, you know.
1:05:23
Like,
1:05:24
Hypo never worked for him. Right? He just didn't
1:05:26
run the same scheme.
1:05:28
So
1:05:30
that thing wherever it goes seems to
1:05:32
score points almost always.
1:05:35
And unlike,
1:05:36
like, the Championship which does not seem
1:05:38
to score points wherever it goes. So I do think US Apple's
1:05:41
score points. I just don't
1:05:43
know enough about Golesh to say if he'll do a good
1:05:45
job with all the other things that come with
1:05:47
being head coach.
1:05:49
What what were the other options? They were just all in
1:05:51
on then? because, like, though, the way these
1:05:53
dominoes are falling, I was thinking maybe,
1:05:55
Tom Allen, if wanted to restart
1:05:57
the clock, like, keep if
1:05:59
they have
1:05:59
another year like this, are they are they really keeping
1:06:02
Tom Allen around for twenty four?
1:06:06
I don't
1:06:06
know. I mean, I don't know how it's
1:06:10
I don't
1:06:10
know what the situation is there honestly with
1:06:12
that going forward. I think that I would advise
1:06:14
he wins a couple more big ten games next
1:06:16
year at a minimum just to be safe.
1:06:20
So when we gather together tomorrow,
1:06:23
after the release of the college
1:06:25
football playoff semifinal match ups.
1:06:28
What do we think it looks like?
1:06:33
Georgia, Ohio State? Michigan,
1:06:35
TCUs. Michigan, TCU?
1:06:37
Mhmm.
1:06:38
George O'Halle stayed in the Peach Bowl, Michigan,
1:06:41
TCU, and the Fiesta.
1:06:43
And if there
1:06:45
is any surprise, what is it? I
1:06:49
won't be here.
1:06:54
I don't think we have a surprise.
1:06:57
I don't know I mean,
1:06:59
the only thing that would surprise me
1:07:02
is if USC shows up in the top
1:07:04
four because I really do not think
1:07:06
Alabama has a shot. no matter
1:07:08
how much people wanna pretend it does.
1:07:13
You ask
1:07:13
people stop pretty hard. I mean, obviously, losing,
1:07:16
but
1:07:17
I don't know, Chip, maybe seating, right,
1:07:19
in in that maybe
1:07:21
there's some people in the committee room who think
1:07:23
Ohio State over TCUs, we
1:07:25
should not
1:07:27
reward Georgia with Megan
1:07:29
in playoff state. Let's not have
1:07:31
a championship rematch. Let's have the rematch
1:07:33
be in the desert. Let's run that
1:07:37
the winner that goes in place, the winner door
1:07:39
to TCU. I maybe we could
1:07:41
add that. III could see that happening,
1:07:43
I guess. Yeah.
1:07:45
I mean, I mentioned last night that maybe they put
1:07:47
OHA! State of three simply for ratings Instant
1:07:51
Just to say, Ohio State Michigan,
1:07:53
Fiesta Ball, New Year's Eve.
1:07:55
Yeah. Because the title game's doing numbers no
1:07:57
matter who plays it at least this way you can maybe
1:07:59
juice a semi. Yeah.
1:08:02
Late lazy lazy take care. I don't
1:08:04
even wanna expand on it, but as
1:08:06
we sit here at the end of conference championship Saturday,
1:08:09
There's two thirteen to no teams. They've been
1:08:11
a really good BCS. Oh,
1:08:14
you don't say? So,
1:08:16
like, every other year. could've just put
1:08:18
two teams been done with it. Correct?
1:08:20
Just let's
1:08:20
just let's just let George and Michigan play?
1:08:22
Yeah. Let's just have the winner be
1:08:25
the national champion. Think
1:08:26
of all the headaches we'd have saved ourselves.
1:08:29
Oh, but the money, two
1:08:31
over four, two over four, or eight over
1:08:33
four, five
1:08:34
with it. I I just think four is
1:08:36
a bad number. Like, not
1:08:37
to go to that debate again at twelve thirty
1:08:39
night, but I
1:08:41
don't mind the BCS. It
1:08:43
generally worked.
1:08:45
Too late. Like, once
1:08:47
every decade, you had a third team that could
1:08:49
cry that it maybe deserved a shot, and it
1:08:51
would just legitimate cry, but I
1:08:53
would take that over this every
1:08:56
single damn time where I have Alabama
1:08:58
fans crying because their two laws teams
1:09:00
gonna get weft out. Okay. I
1:09:02
will say, if we do have video,
1:09:04
did you all see the viral video of the Ohio
1:09:06
State fan who threw the bottle at the wall? When
1:09:08
Ohio State was introduced as the number five
1:09:11
team and they ranking release video
1:09:13
from this past Tuesday? Yeah.
1:09:15
So it's sitting there and they show it on the screen
1:09:17
and they're like, number six. and they flash it
1:09:20
on the screen. Like, number five, they're high state
1:09:22
fuck guys. And you just hear this
1:09:24
glass chatter as a bottle
1:09:26
got thrown against the wall. on the Ben
1:09:28
ultimate playoff rankings.
1:09:31
And if I mean, if
1:09:34
if we get to see some some
1:09:36
televisions get punched and bottles get thrown
1:09:38
over Alabama being introduced
1:09:41
as dramatically as number five.
1:09:44
I'm not happy for the violence in
1:09:46
these households, but
1:09:49
I might laugh.
1:09:50
Not
1:09:52
a lot. I
1:09:54
think I'll probably throw a bottle if Alabama
1:09:56
shows up before. III
1:09:59
know that will happen.
1:09:59
Yeah. We'll
1:10:01
see.
1:10:02
Again, we will be back on
1:10:05
Sunday once we have the semifinal set.
1:10:07
We'll do a quick little preview of
1:10:09
both of those semifinals match ups.
1:10:12
Then on Monday, we
1:10:14
will have some full
1:10:17
reaction. Tom Finanelli, for those of you who've
1:10:19
been with us for a while, you know that
1:10:21
this man pours over
1:10:24
the bowl schedule and puts together the
1:10:26
comprehensive, the authoritative ranking
1:10:30
of every single bowl game. So that will
1:10:32
be Monday's show, our official
1:10:34
bowl rankings on the cover three podcast
1:10:36
courtesy of Tom Fornelly, our favorite match
1:10:38
ups. The ones that we're very excited
1:10:40
about. Sounds like most
1:10:43
of our coaching carousel news seems to be
1:10:45
settled, but, boy, you never know what
1:10:47
slur and around the corner. So always
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