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but a couple games. But, dad, Gummy,

1:46

we're gonna do it here. when

1:48

USC

1:50

had that playoff spot

1:52

right there in its hands.

1:54

And then oh.

1:56

Oh, my hands hurt.

1:58

Oh, no. Oh,

1:59

I'm a drop it.

2:01

Oh, I'm a fumble it.

2:04

Utah did the DAGOM

2:06

thing. Forty seven to twenty four,

2:09

the Utah youths are the Pac

2:11

twelve champions Congratulations to

2:13

Kyle Whittingham. Congratulations to

2:16

this team that not only decided

2:19

to drag him with a two point

2:21

conversion to win the game at home,

2:23

but went into Las Vegas neutral

2:26

site territory, and just

2:28

absolutely stuffed out

2:30

the Trojan's in the second half.

2:33

Now there's a lot to get to, including

2:35

Kayla Williams Health. How

2:37

healthy was he during the second half?

2:40

What does that mean for the Hyatt Man Trophy? But

2:43

most importantly, I think

2:45

we gotta give some flowers to a Utah

2:47

team that on this podcast

2:50

and elsewhere, was

2:52

not given as much respect as the Las

2:54

Vegas point spread indicated,

2:58

what did Utah do well? Let's start

3:00

with the flower. We we will get to the playoff

3:02

implications. Hey,

3:05

Ohio State fans. We

3:07

see you. Thanks for tuning in.

3:09

I can tell that Ohio State got good news

3:11

based on the way that all these viewer numbers

3:13

are, I

3:17

I acknowledge this is like good news for a

3:19

business. So let's start

3:21

with Utah. What did Utah do

3:23

well in this game? I

3:25

I thought they schemed up pressures really well.

3:28

Yes.

3:28

They they they use a lot of suns and and and

3:30

slants to confuse USC's offensive line.

3:32

USC does not have great offensive line

3:34

death in your war, east, didn't play tonight. There

3:36

there there yeah. I mean, that was

3:38

something we discussed, I believe, in the Wednesday or

3:40

the Thursday pod it looked like he was going

3:43

to go, and then and then he ended up not going.

3:45

And I I think they took advantage of some

3:47

of US he's often supplying issues. And

3:49

they also like, they weren't afraid to blitz.

3:52

They they trusted their coverage guys.

3:54

Utah's run defense this year has been worse

3:57

than its pasty, and they largely trusted their

3:59

guys to hold up in the back end. Which,

4:01

honestly, when

4:02

Caleb Williams was healthy, it didn't

4:05

hold up in the back end. I mean, he he had

4:07

five explosive plays in the

4:09

first quarter alone before he, you know, pulled his

4:11

hamstring or or hurt his hip, whichever you

4:13

wanna go with there. on that fifty

4:15

nine year run. But almost all

4:18

of Utah's explosive plays

4:20

they allowed were in response

4:22

to having to scramble out out of or do

4:24

some kind heroics within the pocket

4:27

against splits. You talk around lot

4:29

of pressure. They got home with some.

4:32

But once Caleb got hurt, they

4:35

they they could bring a lot more pressure, and he was a

4:37

sitting duck. He was not able to get away from it. They had

4:39

probably four or five Sachs after that, but I thought they schemed

4:41

up pressure really well in this

4:43

game and made USC play left handed at times.

4:46

Yeah. I I did HQ earlier tonight

4:49

like a pre game for this, and I was

4:51

asked what Utah would have to do to win

4:53

this game. I came up with three very basic

4:55

kind of Cliche talking

4:57

points you hear a billion times. But Stop

5:00

the call. No. No. I said, don't turn the

5:02

call over. Thanks. So don't turn

5:04

the ball over because if you don't turn the ball over,

5:06

you're probably gonna score against this defense.

5:09

I said tackle because

5:11

don't don't let the big plays. And then

5:13

I said keep Caleb Williams in the pocket

5:16

because Caleb Williams can kill you in

5:18

the pocket But if you let him escape

5:20

the pocket and run around, he

5:22

will kill you. It's not a matter of can.

5:24

It's a will. Well, I mean,

5:26

the hamstring kind of had that impact

5:29

of keeping him in the pocket. But like Bud said,

5:31

once that happened and, like, Utah spelled blood

5:33

in the water, they did not

5:35

they did not hesitate at all. They went right at

5:38

it and said, oh, okay. You gotta keep him in there. We'll just

5:40

keep doing this. And he can't move. We're gonna hit him,

5:42

and we're gonna take advantage of it. And then

5:44

the thing that they did the best job

5:46

of was run through a bunch of

5:48

weak ass arm tackle attempts by the USC

5:51

defenders who just looked like a bunch

5:53

of guys who were terrified of being

5:55

hit and scared out of their minds

5:57

to try to tackle somebody tonight.

5:59

How does

5:59

fuel Oh, go ahead. Sorry. No.

6:02

Did it feel like you died more than two hundred twenty

6:04

three yards rushing? Yeah. It feels like they had

6:06

six hundred yards. Yeah. Yeah.

6:08

IIII wasn't watching the box

6:10

score live. I I was watching the game and and

6:12

taking my notes. And to

6:14

me, I I expect that to be, like, two seventy,

6:16

two eighty or or, you know, low three

6:18

hundreds, not not two hundred and thirty,

6:20

but they did have some really impressive

6:23

runs. We talked all year about

6:25

how USC's defense is not

6:27

a good defense, but it is a defense

6:29

that has generated a lot of turnovers. We

6:31

know that turnovers have a certain luck component

6:34

Utah also sells out to maximize

6:36

the controllable part of generating

6:39

turnover. And I feel like they've done a

6:41

nice job of that. all year, but it was very

6:43

emblematic. The one turnover that they

6:45

got from Utah was

6:47

on a blown coverage on turn

6:50

down. where you talk against them all, they remember

6:52

the first down, and then it gets poked out.

6:54

Right? It wasn't a pressure created

6:56

turnover or anything like that. I mean, the

6:58

guy literally Caught the ball on

7:00

a busted coverage runs for first and then

7:02

gets it swatted out. Their

7:05

non turnover related stops in this game

7:08

we're kind of few and far between. Utah

7:11

kicks an ill advised fuel goal down

7:14

right close to the goal line early on, which

7:16

honestly, game with a total in the

7:18

sixties is really foolish. Now

7:20

if you heard the quarterback, it doesn't seem to matter

7:23

what you do. But

7:25

that but USC

7:26

got very few stops that

7:28

were not turnover related in this ballgame. Right.

7:31

And there's the one on the third of nineteen

7:33

touchdown from Park. that went for fifty

7:35

seven yards. Oh. The outright

7:38

stupidity. Because why do you try to force a

7:40

turnover? Why are you trying to strip the ball? To

7:42

get the ball back? It's third in nineteen.

7:44

You know how you can get the ball back on third in nineteen. That's

7:46

how it's stripping the ball, tackle him.

7:48

So why the hell are you trying to

7:51

strip the ball out of his hands ten yard

7:53

shy of the fourth or the first down

7:55

marker. Just tackle him. You'll get the

7:57

ball back. It

7:58

just

7:59

dumb. I was

8:00

gonna say how much of this, like, tackling

8:03

issue do we attribute to the fact that,

8:05

like, on the stat

8:07

sheet

8:08

cam rising had a very very

8:10

good game.

8:11

Right? Was

8:12

it -- Yes. --

8:13

over three hundred yards passing,

8:16

three touchdowns, zero interceptions, we'll see.

8:19

twenty two or thirty four. A

8:21

lot of that was yards after the catch.

8:23

Right? Yep. Yep. But but he

8:26

was legitimately better tonight. Like, IIII

8:28

wrote down him in in my notes here, greater

8:31

than Oregon game. Just like he's downgraded

8:33

him -- Yes. -- including his last year

8:35

or after the season. Yeah. He he was legitimately

8:38

a bad player against Oregon. He was one of

8:40

the worst players on the field for Utah that night.

8:42

He didn't run well. It it was clear that the the

8:44

injury was still bothering him a little bit.

8:47

He still doesn't look quite as quick as he once

8:49

did, but at least tonight the throws were

8:51

mostly on target, whereas against Oregon,

8:53

that cameraizing was not on target. He he

8:55

was not good at all tonight. He was plenty

8:58

good enough to beat AAA very

9:00

sketchy USC defense. Yeah.

9:03

I I felt like you said, there was the

9:05

kind of explosiveness, which I wouldn't say camera

9:07

hasn't ever been an explosive runner, but

9:09

just like the overall juice that he does

9:11

have. was not there, at least not

9:13

the guy that they saw earlier in the year.

9:15

But he was effective enough

9:18

in spots keeping the ball on

9:20

some RPO kind of situations. that

9:22

USC's defense had to at least

9:24

respect the option that he would keep,

9:27

which I think made a big difference on a lot

9:29

of those plays because leeway,

9:31

he looked like in Oregon and in other games. I

9:33

feel like the defenses were kinda just selling out because

9:35

they weren't really worried about rising, keeping the ball

9:37

and doing any damage. He did enough tonight to

9:39

where It was just it kept him honest.

9:42

k? So let's go to the other side

9:44

of this. Right?

9:47

USC, What

9:51

went wrong with that offense? because

9:53

Yeah. The volumes got hurt. Yeah. I mean,

9:55

like, literally, I So

9:58

at at eight fifty two is before he

9:59

gets hurt. I

10:00

texted my buddies because they knew I

10:03

I had USC in this game. I said, I think someone what

10:05

USC is doing is on sustainable and yet they're

10:07

up fourteen to three. You know?

10:09

And then he goes on the fifty nine

10:11

yard run. Right? they

10:15

the

10:15

broadcast I

10:17

tweeted about this. I think it, like, eight thirty

10:19

or some somewhere around there. It

10:21

takes some ninety minutes to acknowledge on the

10:23

broadcast that Caleb Williams

10:25

has a leg injury, by the way. When clearly,

10:28

now they're they're only showing his upper after

10:30

that. and he's looking over to the sideline,

10:33

and I see his head doing like this.

10:35

Right? But I'm not seeing what the leg action is doing, and

10:37

I'm trying to lie bet this thing. I'm like, is Caleb

10:39

Leaves hurt? Like, what what are we doing? because he's

10:41

like, it looks like he's lipid. Right? And I don't

10:43

know what's going on. And I'm like, oh, his hands bleed.

10:45

I'm like, I

10:50

don't care about it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold

10:52

on. He could have been losing enough blood

10:54

from his hand if there wasn't enough circulation

10:56

in the leg. That could have been the problem.

10:59

fair fair enough? Yes. I mean, like, there's no

11:01

doubt. Maybe he's trying to, like, like, dodge

11:03

the the blood drops from hitting his leg, you know,

11:05

and it doesn't doesn't want it to happen. But I'm,

11:07

like, hey, Fox broadcast. Can you, like,

11:09

maybe have someone in the building? Take a look

11:11

and see if Caleb Williams is is limping

11:13

around because literally every decent

11:15

play Utah has had tonight,

11:18

has been off script. It's been Caleb Williams

11:20

having to slide around in the pocket a ton

11:22

or just outright scramble and then

11:24

literally scramble out of the pocket and go

11:26

or scramble out of the pocket and launch.

11:28

And I'm like, how do we not talk

11:30

about this

11:31

for ninety minutes that's

11:33

crazy. I mean, it was

11:36

to me, it was obvious, like, he had he had

11:38

one keeper after that and he had no

11:40

juice on it. You know is

11:42

probably at least has one

11:44

pair of doctors, which I think might be more than the

11:46

Fox broadcast had than I I assume

11:48

they were on scene. Like, I don't know what the spotter's doing.

11:51

not taking a look at that. But once

11:53

you toss all the Caleb Williams could not run

11:55

or at least could not run to anywhere close

11:57

to the normal standard that he runs, it

12:00

it was on, man. Because honestly, this

12:02

is the why why texted my group chat. Like, this

12:04

is unsustainable. Because

12:06

the

12:07

stuff they were doing was sort

12:09

of off script stuff. It wasn't really like

12:11

the playoff USC was calling, was working.

12:13

I thought Utah had a good plan it

12:15

just was getting beat by Caleb

12:18

off script because he's that good of an athlete and

12:20

that special of a player. But once he was hurt,

12:22

they

12:22

were in trouble.

12:28

So

12:29

we know Ohio State's getting their spot. Right?

12:32

Wait. Let's save that for the other

12:34

side. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

12:37

Sorry. No.

12:38

No. No. We no. Listen. USC

12:40

deserves a, like, open

12:43

it up. Like like this is

12:45

the the frog in biology. Like,

12:47

we we we we gotta say no

12:49

no no no no. Because You

12:51

couldn't run the ball?

12:52

No. You

12:54

couldn't do anything outside of Caleb Williams' Hero

12:56

Ball? No.

12:59

You were You had your season on the

13:01

line for this entire second half.

13:04

All you needed was like one

13:06

scoring drive. You

13:08

couldn't go get it. And yes, like Caleb

13:11

was hurt, but

13:12

you couldn't get it.

13:14

It was they did go get it though.

13:16

Didn't they? They got it a couple times. I mean,

13:18

yeah, they they they wouldn't got it. And, like, they

13:22

they they ran for for what point three carry,

13:24

a hundred twenty five yards. They they

13:27

had settled the yards by USC.

13:29

No. I'm talking about USC. Yeah. Exactly. No.

13:31

No. No. SAC adjusted, buds. Right? SAC adjusted,

13:33

they average six point three yards for rush. Yeah.

13:35

They just had seventy yards and Zach's lost.

13:38

I

13:38

mean, like,

13:39

I don't really put this on the offense. Caleb

13:41

had three hundred sixty three through the air and

13:44

three tuddies. It it if

13:46

he's healthy, they probably score forty on this Utah

13:48

defense. Utah really wasn't getting down.

13:51

But

13:51

I I will say though, like we talked

13:53

before he said that. not without without

13:56

without Caleb. Mhmm.

13:57

No. They weren't able to run the ball without

13:59

No.

13:59

That's

14:00

fair. Yeah.

14:01

That's what I'm saying. Like, you you

14:03

you had no balance. It was it was Caleb robust.

14:06

Mhmm. He had zero touchdowns

14:08

for a long stretch of this game.

14:11

Yes. You had one touchdown in the second

14:13

half. I thought they were gonna pull them.

14:17

Should they have pulled them? No. Because,

14:19

like, I I watched the end of that Colorado game

14:21

with the the the backup who's

14:23

saying I probably should have written down. And

14:25

Oh,

14:27

Yes. All he could do was throw

14:29

was throw swing screens. Like, that's really

14:31

the only playoff let him run-in that Colorado

14:34

game. That's like the only action I've seen him get this year.

14:37

probably because USC plays a lot of close games

14:40

late because they they don't get a lot of stops.

14:43

Caleb on

14:44

one leg is still better than Miller Masse

14:46

on two. Miller

14:48

Masse said the name of a derivative school

14:51

yard rapper. But I I

14:53

just it's we mentioned

14:55

Voorhees was out, and I lose the center

14:57

in the fourth quarter, but, like, we talked

15:00

all season about

15:02

how Utah this year, was

15:04

it all when we talked about Utah, not all season?

15:06

But we we talked about how they weren't the same

15:08

kind of team and the trenches that we saw last

15:11

year. they looked

15:13

that way tonight against USC,

15:15

like, 2E2Y triple 02I think I

15:17

heard his name once. I thought he

15:19

got taken out of the game. I thought

15:21

the offensive line, which is I just said they had

15:23

injuries. They were short of you guys. I felt they were

15:25

struggling to get any kind of push

15:27

upfront. And I think that I

15:30

mean, we saw it with not

15:32

just in the tackling, but just in the lines,

15:34

like, Utah was looked

15:36

like Utah tonight. it was the tougher

15:38

team than USC. USC looked

15:41

soft. Like, that has always been the silly

15:43

kind of narrative about that team. Like, oh,

15:45

the pack twelve is soft, blah blah blah. Utah

15:47

is not soft there in the pack twelve. They've won it two

15:49

straight years in a row. USC

15:51

looks soft tonight. And I just wonder, like, spinning

15:54

this forward That

15:56

team's gonna be in the big ten in a couple years.

15:59

There's a lot of Utah in the big ten.

16:02

Like, they need to figure that out if

16:04

they're going to adjust to their new life

16:06

in their new, you know, conference. mean,

16:08

obviously, if they still have Caleb Williams and he's healthy,

16:10

they're probably gonna win plenty of games. But when

16:12

it gets to winning the big ten, getting playoff

16:15

birds. That's something they need to

16:17

figure out. I mean,

16:19

and the thing is, guys, Utah

16:22

is not that physical on the lines of scrimmage

16:24

this year. They've been pushed around.

16:26

Right? Oregon

16:27

pushed them around.

16:28

Florida pushed them around. there's

16:30

probably a couple other games. Honestly, Oregon

16:33

state's offensive line moved

16:35

Utah just fine. That that that was back when they had

16:37

real quarterback problems. They threw four picks. in

16:39

the first forty minutes of the ballgame. So it was

16:41

never really close enough to where the beavers

16:44

pushing around Utah matter. I mean, this

16:46

is not your standard Utah

16:48

team typically, which I think

16:50

does speak to wow. Like,

16:52

if that's not your standard Utah team along lines

16:54

of scrimmage and USC look that soft,

16:57

Yeah. III agree. The 1II

17:00

thought two, he did have one really nice play.

17:02

There was, like, a third down in three Utah

17:04

runs it and he blew it up. Yes. Yeah.

17:06

He he smoked it. But I Mhmm. It was

17:08

a nice play by him. I I think the center guard

17:10

also kinda olaid it. You

17:13

had a Utah team that was challenged. Like,

17:17

you know, we we were talking about all these different

17:19

spots during the season where they did not

17:21

look like they were up to the standard. we

17:24

put on record and we were not

17:26

the only ones saying that this Utah

17:28

team did not necessarily look like

17:30

they were up to the standard. Cal

17:33

Whittingham told us on

17:35

the record that they loved

17:38

that. You know, they loved

17:40

being able to have that chip on their shoulder. Instant

17:43

they end up going ahead and proving.

17:46

Congratulations to the Utah youth.

17:49

You are

17:50

pack twelve you will

17:52

be in the rose bowl. As

17:55

for USC.

17:58

Boy, I

18:00

was

18:00

I was gonna make a joke about how Utah won't

18:03

be playing in the rose bowl, but for a different reason

18:05

than we thought two days ago.

18:09

Won't

18:09

be? Well,

18:10

because Ohio State doesn't wanna play in the rose ball

18:12

this year, and now they don't have to. because

18:15

they're in the college football playoff. Yeah.

18:17

Coming up

18:19

on the other side, the college

18:22

football playoff impacts of

18:25

Utah taking down USC. What

18:27

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as history 101 with

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21:00

as m h says, USC

21:03

should have hired Whittingham and not Riley.

21:10

Kyle

21:10

Whittingham was mentioned,

21:13

I have zero idea if he was actually

21:16

a

21:16

candidate for this job.

21:18

Why? Because the USC job was open

21:20

in September. We

21:23

mentioned everyone for the

21:26

USC job. Tal

21:28

winning him. Of course, he was mentioned because

21:31

we had three months dimension

21:33

in a name before Lincoln Riley was

21:35

eventually named the head coach.

21:39

But alright.

21:42

Kyle

21:42

Weddingham would not have this USC team

21:44

in the back to old title game this year.

21:46

No sense. Oh, yeah. Like, transfer

21:49

portal, like Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

21:52

That's a great way to

21:54

squash that. Thank you, bud.

21:57

I mean, you're you're bringing your weight here. That's

21:59

a that's a it's a good

22:02

way to be able to affirmatively

22:04

be like, no. No.

22:05

That that would not be the case right

22:07

now. So He's an awesome coach. Alright. We

22:09

we we could have the conversation. Would he have him in a

22:11

in a better spot than, like, in the last three years?

22:14

Yeah. Yeah. But

22:17

For this year, I mean, this

22:19

probably the last time we'll talk USC for maybe

22:21

a week or two. it is hard

22:23

to imagine much of a better season for

22:26

USC than than their fans

22:28

could really hope for. Right? mean -- Mhmm.

22:30

-- good morning. Eleven two.

22:33

Yep. That's that's pretty damn good.

22:35

Mhmm. like,

22:37

compared to like, they over

22:39

their wind total, they

22:42

were sitting here on the first

22:44

Saturday in this or first Friday in December

22:46

with the chance to be in the college

22:48

football playoff. That's

22:51

that's all you want. You saw

22:53

whatnot be in the college for a ball playoff? Nope.

22:57

Ohio

22:58

is.

22:59

Yes.

23:00

They're in. Yeah. Correct.

23:03

I mean, unless the committee

23:05

does something we have never seen

23:08

them do and allows USC to

23:10

stay in. even though it's just lost,

23:12

which I don't think they're gonna do because

23:15

they've always said that, you know,

23:17

conference titles or whatever are tie breaker

23:19

in similar situation. but USC no

23:21

longer has a conference title.

23:24

How state is the loss? and they have

23:26

half as many losses. And they've got

23:28

a pretty good win over Penn State.

23:30

as far as the rankings are concerned. So Ohio

23:32

State is it. And now there is

23:36

it's not gonna happen, but

23:38

it There

23:39

is an actual scenario in

23:42

which we have a fourteen college football

23:44

playoff without a single

23:46

conference champion in it. if

23:49

Georgia, Michigan, and TCU

23:51

all lose tomorrow, it'll

23:54

be either Ohio State,

23:56

TCU, Alabama, Michigan,

23:58

and Georgia comprising

23:59

the field, and none of them will have won their conference.

24:04

Man, what

24:05

is the system?

24:06

a

24:13

We have awesome. I haven't thought about that.

24:15

Yeah. No. III mean, I

24:18

I would like for the conference Championship

24:20

to mean something. And, you

24:24

know,

24:25

this weekend, they really don't. There's reason

24:27

why we're doing a reaction show on a Friday night.

24:31

I mean, I mean, Joanna's tomorrow at two thirty

24:33

as we previewed the SC title game between Georgia

24:35

and and LSU. Obviously, I'll

24:38

I'll be on there, and I'm excited to do it. But No.

24:42

I I think you need to have some stakes in these games.

24:45

If you just made the conference championship

24:49

A requirement, the conference

24:51

championship games would just become

24:53

playoff games and you would have an

24:55

expanded college football playoff.

24:59

but

25:00

can't do that. That's been way too easy.

25:03

Exactly. So

25:05

what chance do you give Ohio State?

25:08

to get in here and, like,

25:10

rack shop.

25:12

Well,

25:14

the

25:17

if it depends on the

25:19

matchup. Like, if I

25:21

actually know it doesn't because, like, if they're gonna

25:23

end up having to playoff, Michigan and Georgia

25:25

win, high states either playing Michigan

25:28

again, which is beating it up two

25:30

years in a row, or it's gonna

25:32

play Georgia. which beat up

25:34

the same Michigan that beat it up last

25:36

year and will probably beat the hell out of it

25:38

this year. They

25:40

will be favored over Michigan if if match up.

25:43

Oh,

25:43

sure they will. And they'll lose again. They

25:45

could. Yeah. I mean

25:47

Oh. Or or it could go the way that George

25:50

Alabama went around to last year. Right.

25:52

That's me. It's Michigan. Oh, it's

25:54

Jude Blake Coram will be injured. Oh, wait.

25:57

He was hurt in the first game.

26:01

like like like Quorum as

26:03

as Williams. That's that's interesting. Uh-huh.

26:07

Look. They'll be they will not be

26:09

a touchdown dog, George. I can tell you that.

26:11

It'll

26:12

it'll be less.

26:13

Mhmm. I just I Ohio State will

26:15

be a live team in the college football playoff. It's

26:17

got a very good quarterback. It's got

26:19

great wider soccer state. It has very

26:21

talented players. It is a live, quote,

26:23

unquote, dog in the playoff. It's

26:26

It could beat Michigan. It could beat Georgia.

26:28

It could beat TCU. Will it? I

26:30

don't know. Because they just seemed

26:32

to Bunch

26:34

of in the face, they don't seem to react very well.

26:37

Well, I'm just saying eight years ago,

26:40

they

26:40

did not win. You

26:43

know, they

26:44

in twenty fourteen? They

26:46

won their conference. Mhmm. But

26:48

that ten loss That

26:51

team wasn't as talented.

26:55

It was

26:55

still pretty talented.

26:58

But I

26:59

thought that that team had a little bit of

27:01

a more of a little

27:04

more little more

27:05

guts than

27:07

than this team has. I've

27:09

looked into that team before, the receiving

27:12

the the receivers on that team were nuts.

27:14

It was like Michael Thomas and Mhmm.

27:16

-- a bunch of guys who would go on to

27:18

play for for a decent

27:20

while in the NFL. Right? but

27:23

they also like, that Ohio State team,

27:26

they

27:26

got

27:27

one of the worst bama team

27:29

who who was the quarterback for bama? It was, like, the worst

27:31

quarterback PAMA's run out there that has, you know, made

27:33

the playoffs or or the BCS. Was

27:36

that The guy who

27:38

was, like, moving from receiver to to court or

27:40

to court back and back? HIM's.

27:42

Yes. Yeah. Right.

27:44

I mean, like like Sam's not

27:47

a capable thrower at a championship

27:49

level, honestly. And so they they

27:51

took advantage of that. They haven't had

27:53

a couple issues that year. They they beat them. You

27:56

know, dalvin cooked fumbles four times in the

27:58

rose bowl. as he's averaging, like,

28:00

twelve yards carry against Oregon,

28:03

and then they bully Oregon at the line

28:05

of scrimmage, you know, and and and beat Marietta.

28:08

the And, I

28:09

mean, they had their third string quarterback in.

28:11

So it's like it's yeah.

28:14

Braxton, that's what I mean is JT. Yeah.

28:16

It's like they weren't as talented at the quarterback position

28:18

as they are right now, but they had good players

28:20

and they were I felt like the defense was a little

28:23

saltier too. think

28:25

so. Look, so if Ohio's well,

28:27

we need to stop using if. When Ohio

28:29

State gets in, I am curious

28:31

to see if Ohio State is able to lean on

28:34

its front seven more and

28:35

have

28:36

a little more variety in terms of the coverage,

28:39

not coverage it playoff, but just the depth

28:41

of their safeties. Right? maybe

28:43

don't have everybody quite so close. I know it's

28:45

a Jim Knowles. Do you dare him again? Do you dare

28:47

him? I I'm gonna dare

28:49

him on some place. for sure. I just don't

28:51

know if I'm gonna dare them quite as frequently. You

28:53

know, I I think back to that Penn state game

28:55

where where, you know, j t to him allow,

28:57

I had a really nice ballgame. They they have

28:59

some good players on that Ohio

29:01

State front. But, Tom,

29:03

it's a great question. I'm like, would you dare him? Because

29:06

Michigan, again, three hundred

29:08

and sixty yards on five plays, three

29:10

point o on the other fifty four plays. Like,

29:12

I think on the other fifty four on the sixty plays,

29:15

they had pretty nice nice day. Mhmm.

29:18

When

29:18

you were filling out your all

29:20

American ballot, but do

29:22

you? Who this?

29:25

I

29:25

didn't have a vote. Okay.

29:26

I

29:28

didn't

29:28

have a lot of high state defense playoff.

29:33

Neither did I? Did you

29:34

have a lot of Michigan defense defensive players?

29:37

Nope.

29:37

I had two.

29:40

And we go deep. Like, the the ballad

29:43

is, like -- Yeah. -- down to, like,

29:45

LB6 and, like, DL8

29:48

or whatever. I think

29:50

I had

29:51

one or two. Would you have Mike

29:53

Morris?

29:54

Yeah. Mike

29:56

Morrison, make mine. I

29:59

don't

29:59

know

29:59

if I had any Michigan I'm trying to think off top

30:02

of my head. This is a great podcasting right now.

30:05

I don't think I did. I feel like

30:07

that's more of a you. I know had had a few offensive

30:10

players on there.

30:12

I know Oulu was on there. I know Korn

30:14

was on there. Do

30:16

you have any Georgia ones? Or

30:18

defense? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

30:21

A hundred percent. Yeah.

30:25

No.

30:25

I I didn't do that pro football

30:27

focused move of, like, only

30:30

my only my formula.

30:33

produced

30:33

his numbers. Highest grade.

30:35

Yeah. My high my highest grade for the

30:37

season. High

30:39

grade for the season.

30:41

Sorry. Jill

30:43

and Carter, you did? You

30:45

did. Congratulations. Yeah.

30:48

That that would be The Dumas Johnson kid for

30:51

Georgia, by the way. has been pretty damn good

30:53

too. The

30:54

sophomore --

30:55

Mhmm. -- that their their linebacker, like,

30:57

that that guy, I've I've watched some of these playoff

30:59

teams he's all over the field.

31:01

Howard

31:03

so

31:05

Bauchner: So now that we

31:08

have come to the place

31:10

where a higher state is

31:11

in.

31:13

Right?

31:14

Yeah. Now,

31:16

let's talk about it.

31:18

What

31:19

do you want to talk about? Let's talk about

31:21

it.

31:22

What? Guys, we gotta talk about

31:24

it.

31:26

Again, if if if

31:28

if if if the

31:30

Kansas State wildcats, which are

31:32

narrow underdogs, against

31:35

TCU if

31:38

Kansas state defeats

31:40

the horn frogs.

31:43

Are we really

31:45

talking about it? Are

31:47

we really talking about it? Because

31:50

currently Instant football playoff

31:52

selection committee rankings, Ohio State's

31:54

number five. Sure. You're in. I get

31:57

it. You got one lost. That one lost is to

31:59

Michigan. Michigan is a team that's currently

32:01

ranks number two. in the college football

32:03

playoff rankings. The

32:05

team that is currently ranks number six

32:08

in the college football playoff rankings has

32:10

two losses. which

32:12

means that their arrival in the top

32:14

four on Sunday would

32:16

be historic. But

32:18

would not be historic is the

32:20

inclusion of that program in

32:22

the college football playoff because

32:25

they have been in it so many dagom

32:27

times. If

32:30

TCU, who

32:32

is again, just a narrow

32:34

favorite

32:35

to a team, that it was

32:37

trailing

32:41

early the first time they played.

32:45

Are we really talking about it? If TCU loses

32:47

to Kansas State, Alabama Instant

32:50

I can I pose you a question? Yeah.

32:52

I mean, the the this is the time. questions.

32:55

Alright. Well, let's let's take

32:57

a look at Alabama.

32:59

Instant two. It's best win. It's

33:02

number twenty, Texas. Neither

33:04

the last second field goal to beat them even though they're

33:06

starting quarterback. Got back. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Game in the

33:08

first half. Scott had went

33:10

over Mississippi State, which magically appeared

33:12

in the rankings this week, and

33:15

it had narrow escape against tax saying,

33:17

man, and both of its losses were closed blah blah

33:19

blah. If the close if the losses are close being

33:21

matters, then the winds being close matters

33:23

too. So that team's tended to.

33:27

A

33:27

team lost tonight for

33:29

the second time this season,

33:31

but it only lost to the same team.

33:34

a team that is ranked in the number

33:37

eleven will be ranked higher

33:39

come Sunday. And that

33:41

team has one more win

33:44

than Alabama. And

33:46

that team has a win over number

33:48

seventeen and a win over number twenty

33:50

one.

33:53

If you're going to let a two loss

33:55

team in, is the one that lost

33:57

tonight not the one with the better overall resume?

34:02

It's a fair point. It

34:05

kinda makes you wonder, like, does the committee really

34:07

believe it's underwriting as far

34:09

as its resume? Or are they really going to look

34:11

at it like that? Or are they gonna sort of eye

34:14

test it? I I don't think there's any way

34:16

USC gets in over Alabama. person.

34:18

Either do I, but my point is

34:21

logically, how do you justify putting

34:23

in Alabama over USC? I

34:26

mean, you want these teams to play conference championship

34:28

games. Right? And you are sort of penalizing

34:30

USC here for playing in in a

34:32

conference championship game. I I agree. I

34:35

Dan Wetzel made this point for Yahoo in a column,

34:38

a similar point to what Tom's making. And I

34:40

think this year, in particular, is unique

34:42

year in which it really does apply. honestly,

34:45

just logically,

34:47

the four teams that made it in this weekend

34:49

should be in. They they should be in. I loved

34:51

in, but he also included that detail,

34:53

but he said USC won its division

34:56

and there's no division playoff. Oh,

34:58

true. Yeah. I I listened to this, and

35:00

I make us so many mistakes. I make

35:02

a ton of mistakes, but I just,

35:05

you know, you're I saw that one and

35:07

I was like, oh, yikes. love

35:09

you, Dan.

35:10

come on.

35:13

But

35:13

I I'm just saying If Alabama gets

35:15

in, I know I've said it before. I'm

35:18

I'm out. on the playoff period.

35:20

I'll talk about it because I have to for work, but

35:22

I'm never gonna care about anything that they

35:24

do. I Bama

35:26

can get in, I think, if TCU

35:29

gets blown out or

35:32

if Doug can get hurt. enough to where

35:34

the committee really thinks he's gonna miss the playoff

35:37

or both.

35:38

Having two teams who did not

35:41

play for a conference championship.

35:44

One that lost twice. One that didn't even limit

35:46

its own -- Yes. -- and the first ever

35:48

to lost team. Mhmm.

35:50

The first two lost team to make it will be a

35:52

team that didn't win its own division if that happens.

35:55

Yeah. I I always envisioned a two lost team

35:57

making it being a team that

35:59

had a guy

35:59

hurt during the season, suffered

36:02

some weird losses, got healthy,

36:04

got right at the right time, won

36:06

its conference, was clearly like, hey,

36:08

like, this is the best team or

36:10

one of the four best teams in the sport now that it's

36:12

healthy again. Right? Maybe, like like a USC

36:14

in two thousand seven. When John David Moody

36:16

was hurt, they lost twice. Right? and then

36:19

two thousand u USC at full strength. It's

36:21

just as good as USC or LSU was

36:23

that you're just as good as Ohio State

36:26

was at at etcetera etcetera. But it

36:28

would be weird to put this Bama team

36:30

in. Like, Bama fans in

36:32

the chat. Do you really believe this

36:34

Bama team is anywhere near

36:36

as good as as your normal Bama teams are?

36:38

I they haven't really played like it.

36:40

Right? I mean,

36:43

it

36:43

would be strange. But I I wouldn't put it past

36:45

the committee if TCU gets blown

36:47

out or if Ducking gets hurt. Because

36:49

if Ducking gets hurt, they're gonna use the whole hooker

36:52

argument. Right? that, hey, look, we gotta

36:54

drop now because it's an important player. Right. Another

36:56

another two lost team of the better resume than Alabama.

36:59

Tennessee. Oh, it actually beat Alabama.

37:02

But if we cannot consider them

37:04

for a playoff or Just pure

37:06

scalps. Right? Just pure wins and losses.

37:08

Yes. Tennessee is a better resume.

37:11

Tennessee also lost by, like, a thirty

37:13

burger to South

37:15

Carolina team that also beat top ten clums in.

37:18

By one? Just one. He can they're just peeking at

37:20

the right time. Yeah. That's

37:23

that's fair. They also lost at home in Missouri.

37:26

you know, I you're the if you're the committee,

37:28

you're if if the committee wants to put Alabama in,

37:30

they're only in hard on quality of play

37:32

as opposed to, you know, narrow losses.

37:34

Right? They competed on the

37:36

road, buzzword, buzzword, buzzword,

37:39

real time, buzzword, buzzword, game

37:41

control. Yeah.

37:43

Except for all the games they weren't Yeah.

37:45

Except for all of the games that they

37:47

weren't controlling every single

37:49

time. They just put outside

37:52

of Bryant Denny Stadium, and they weren't

37:54

controlling the game. And even one time

37:56

when they were inside against the the worst team in

37:58

the FCC. Alabama is

37:59

one of the ten best teams in the country. It's probably

38:02

one of the six best teams in the country. It's

38:04

not one of the four best teams in the country, and it

38:06

sure is only one of the best Alabama teams you've

38:08

ever It's probably the worst Alabama team we've

38:10

seen in a decade.

38:13

Yuck. What

38:15

a fun position we're in.

38:18

I'm telling you, if they get in, I'm out.

38:21

I won't do the reaction shows. I will talk

38:23

about them on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, but

38:25

I will not show up for a single reaction show.

38:28

Wait. There's

38:29

Reaction. Not I mean, CFP

38:32

reaction show.

38:33

Not Reaction. shows. When we sit on

38:35

Tuesday nights to talk about those rankings, I will

38:37

not show up.

38:38

We only have one more year. No,

38:42

we don't. Chip, they're gonna have breaking shows

38:44

for every single week during the twelve teamer.

38:46

We got us to figure out who the at large firsts

38:48

are gonna be. Oh, you're gonna

38:51

flake out of that one. So I was gonna say okay.

38:56

Well, And

38:57

I'm not flaking out. I am emphatically

39:00

saying I will not do it. There's no flake

39:02

kick. I'm not gonna come up with a wave excuse. Tell

39:04

you're right now, won't be there.

39:06

Paul gave enough money to this. Chicago

39:09

Drive, Paul League. Yeah.

39:14

Paul gave enough money to Saint Jude's to get

39:16

a spot on a lock show. He just said he'll

39:19

do it. So, you know, Paul can take my

39:21

spot on Tuesday night. Yeah. Yeah. May maybe

39:23

that's what we'll do. is next

39:25

time our Saint Jude's marathon comes

39:27

around, we'll just do a a like,

39:30

who wants to come and talk about the

39:32

rankings every single

39:34

Tuesday night, a twelve

39:36

team playoff era.

39:39

I tell you. I don't

39:42

know why they got them at number eleven. They're

39:44

clearly number fourteen to me.

39:51

If you're

39:53

Kirby Smarter, you pissed. No.

39:56

You're I think you're a little

39:59

pissed. Like, if Alabama I think that's him.

40:01

No. You'd much rather pull definitely if Alabama

40:03

gets it. Listen here. Really well. like,

40:06

you better play USC than Ohio State of your curve.

40:08

Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Okay.

40:11

because I wouldn't I'll just hand the ball

40:13

off forty times, and I'll win the game by thirty.

40:17

Yeah.

40:19

Number seven on US will be imprinted

40:21

in the ground the way he's been trying to tackle

40:23

people. I was gonna shorten it. This

40:26

was my playoff Reaction, by the way.

40:28

Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia Bama.

40:30

So if this

40:32

happens, I do need you to pull a clip. Mine

40:35

too? Yes.

40:36

So Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say Tom said

40:38

that a hard stay in Michigan would both

40:40

be undefeated heading

40:42

into the game. And

40:43

they would both make the college football playoff. I'm

40:46

a genius. What can I say? Yeah.

40:49

I

40:49

was gonna say Kirby say, Listen

40:53

here, we just wanna keep things the the main

40:55

thing, the main thing. Alright.

40:58

And so who we play does not matter

41:01

compared to our standard that we wanna keep.

41:06

So This

41:07

this game will be like like like battle for

41:09

cale downs. The the the playoff winner

41:11

gets cale downs. The the the five star safety come

41:13

into the bama. because

41:15

you're, like, Georgia Georgia and Ohio State are both

41:17

trying to flip them. So probably

41:20

the best DB in the country. and

41:23

that's

41:25

decided before the semi finals.

41:28

Oh, true. Yeah. If you're

41:30

if you're Sunny Dikes in that TCU coaching

41:32

staff right now, are you putting together a game plan just

41:34

not to get blown out? So I

41:37

thought about this, like, tempo wise,

41:39

man, like, Do do you run your do you

41:41

run full tempo? Slow it

41:43

down. Slow it

41:45

down. I mean, so maybe, you know, I've been watching

41:47

much World Cup this week and just seeing, like, Spain

41:50

laid down to make sure that Germany

41:52

gets knocked out and stuff like that. If I'm TCU,

41:54

I think tomorrow, I'm just I'm gonna be

41:56

pretty conservative tomorrow.

41:59

Alright. I

41:59

I don't

42:00

agree with him going conservative, but

42:02

I do think there is, like, if I was coaching

42:05

DCU, there is scenario that I would

42:07

play differently than what Lincoln Reilly did tonight.

42:09

And I'm telling you Lincoln Reilly did the thing tonight

42:11

that would allow them to win the game if they convert

42:14

but I forgot what what drive this was.

42:16

Maybe the Penultimate driver, the third and last

42:18

drive. But he goes

42:20

for it on, like, fourth and eighteen they're

42:22

down couple scores, so you have to

42:24

have it. I think I

42:26

surrender front there. And it like,

42:29

if I'm down fourteen, you

42:30

know, And

42:32

I know I, like, just math wise, I almost

42:34

certainly can't win the game. Mhmm. I'm

42:36

not going forward on fourth in eighteen on my own

42:38

end, allowing them to beat them by twenty one to

42:40

give them any excuse. because I don't think a fourteen

42:42

point loss and finishing

42:44

twelve and one

42:45

knocks me out.

42:46

Are you going to Chris climbing? Are

42:49

you going to Chris Kleinman for a gentleman's agreement?

42:52

a, if you are beating us,

42:55

don't

42:56

run it up. we

42:58

won't run it up on you. You don't run it

43:00

up on us. You get a nice little

43:02

conference title, in that case, still.

43:04

and we still get our playoff first. Not saying they don't

43:06

try to win. I'm just saying if that situation late

43:08

fourth quarter, Europe, you got the ball

43:11

bleed that clock.

43:16

Do you think Chris Kleinman takes that? God

43:19

no. Oh, no. I don't think some of yikes would

43:21

ever ask. I'm just No. No. God forbid conversation.

43:25

No. No. III think Chris Kleinman would

43:27

run it up. Yeah.

43:28

because I don't think Chris Kleinman really wants to recruit

43:31

against a TCU team

43:33

with a new coach and some recruiting juice

43:36

that they already have. who is now in the

43:38

playoff. Like, you're in a major

43:40

recruiting city. You're you're

43:42

in Manhattan Kansas. It's a little harder

43:44

to get kids to Manhattan Kansas than it is to

43:46

work. So just say an air

43:48

probably would would wanna run it up if you're

43:50

climate.

43:51

So

43:53

though

43:55

One last thing, to bring it back to the whole

43:57

reason while we fired up an instant

43:59

reaction show.

44:03

Are USC fans right to

44:05

be upset without

44:07

Scratch?

44:09

Yeah. That

44:12

team doesn't tackle. The team spends

44:15

too much time trying to strip the ball.

44:17

tackle. The

44:19

second guy in, try to strip the ball.

44:21

First guy, make the tackle.

44:24

It's not that difficult to coach. I

44:27

think so, but they were also really bad

44:29

last year on defense most

44:31

of their trans reporter success stuff

44:34

was done on offense. Oh, no. They

44:36

they need to upgrade on talent. That is

44:38

yeah. That's a hundred percent,

44:40

million percent true. but the

44:42

first guy in tackles. Doesn't

44:44

try to strip the ball. First guy tackles,

44:46

second guy go for ball. Alright. One

44:48

more thing. Did Kayla

44:51

Williams lose the Heisman

44:53

trophy?

44:55

No. Somebody

44:56

else has to win it.

44:59

who Thank you. Right. I mean,

45:01

if if he if he lost it, who steps

45:03

up to win it? And I think if you're

45:05

a voter tonight, assuming

45:07

you watch the game haven't already sent your ballot in

45:09

because apparently it sounds like you can send your ballot in already.

45:11

I Tom,

45:12

you're a voter. Right? Yeah. You can send it

45:14

out on Monday. Monday. Yeah.

45:17

So look, he

45:19

throws for three sixty three and

45:22

three scores

45:24

on one leg.

45:25

Right.

45:26

I don't Like, he certainly would his

45:28

play was not the reason that they

45:30

lost the game. His lack of ability

45:32

to throw for five hundred and five because he

45:34

got hurt which he was kind of on pace

45:37

to do

45:37

was the reason why

45:39

they one of the reasons why Oscar

45:41

and they also don't playoff any defense, which was

45:43

a was a bigger reason. I just I

45:45

don't know who steps up. Like, CJ Stroud

45:47

does not have any more games to

45:49

play. Penn and Hooker, you know, has

45:51

has now missed another game because

45:53

he's done through the year. Max Dugan,

45:56

I don't think has been a national name enough.

45:58

That's the one guy you could maybe look at and

46:00

say he could do it. I don't

46:03

wanna hear the stats and Bennett stuff. It's just

46:05

the numbers he has or He just pressed it.

46:07

No. Well, I mean, well, shock coming

46:09

from you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's interesting

46:11

because when I get my political information,

46:15

they give me a lot of statistics. when

46:18

I get my, you

46:21

know, information for some of these other major

46:23

awards, you

46:24

know, you get a lot of the major award.

46:27

You know? I

46:29

I don't I don't get any statistics

46:32

for the Heisman. I

46:33

don't I don't have to use any

46:35

statistics for the Heismund. I

46:38

said, I'm aware. Jason White.

46:40

I just have to write a name that

46:42

I know Actually, I have to write

46:44

three -- Three names. -- but I have to write three

46:46

names that I know. So,

46:50

yeah, IIII

46:52

think there's a debts and Bennett

46:54

potential here.

46:57

If debts and Bennett plays well tomorrow,

46:59

and Georgia wins. I guarantee you

47:01

he's going to get some votes, particularly in

47:04

the southeastern region of the country. The

47:07

fact that we're talking about Stets and Bennett

47:10

as one of the guys that we're gonna try to pull out of

47:12

a hat here to unsecular Williams

47:14

gives me that much more confidence that Caleb James is

47:16

winning this thing, guys. Yeah. Yes. No Caleb

47:18

James is still good with the eyes, but I'm pretty

47:20

sure. it won't be as much of

47:23

a blowout as it was a couple

47:25

hours ago. But unless

47:27

somebody Yeah.

47:29

That's what was a Was

47:31

that the biggest league for USC? Was that fourteen

47:33

to seven? Seventeen to three. Seventeen to yeah.

47:36

At at seventeen to three, Kayla

47:38

Williams was, like, Marcus

47:40

Marietta level. Right. Like,

47:43

Marietta was one of the I think Marietta

47:45

and Winston high speed trophy winners

47:47

and back to back years were both blowout

47:50

-- Wow. -- winners. Like, some

47:52

of the most lopsided first

47:54

place vote percentage winners in high speed

47:57

trophy history. Like, we

47:59

were kinda dealing with that. until

48:02

we weren't. What's funny is,

48:05

remember last year and everybody was pushing Will Anderson

48:08

as like a legitimate hizeman and then aid in

48:10

the hutch in was a finalist. And

48:12

it's like there's like the idea that they could win

48:14

when there was no chance in hell. Either of them were

48:16

ever gonna win with a Bryce Young there and a CJ

48:19

Stroud there, the way the seasons that they had. of

48:21

all the years that a defensive player

48:23

could have won? If Will Anderson

48:26

had last season, this season, he

48:28

might legitimately win the highs with this year.

48:31

because it would happen tonight.

48:33

And if Alabama had,

48:35

like, beaten LSU?

48:37

But if Will Anderson had the season last

48:40

year that he this year, he they probably would have beaten

48:42

those. Right?

48:43

Betty makes a player too in that game that changes

48:45

it. It was only one point game. Yeah.

48:47

I don't know. And also, like, Ellis,

48:49

you had

48:50

no good

48:51

points. No. You had no touch sounds. I

48:53

have time. That game.

48:57

I love the sport. We're

49:00

re litigating snaps,

49:02

student houses, like, all

49:04

the way down on December third.

49:06

I would say I mean, I got that bottle of maple

49:08

syrup back there. Vote for Chase Brown to

49:10

give him the highest, but he sent me maple syrup.

49:13

Who do you guys seriously think is gonna be in New York then?

49:16

Will it be more than three guys? Yeah.

49:19

Yeah. because I think that there's gonna be so many

49:21

guys getting second and third place votes.

49:23

Yeah. It's gonna be hard to and

49:26

if they only fight three, I

49:28

mean, everybody I I don't know I don't know

49:30

what they'll do, but I think The

49:32

finalist. Doug and Scott had a chance.

49:34

Yeah.

49:34

I think Caleb's a finalist. I

49:37

think Stroud's gonna be a finalist

49:39

still, I think. Yep. Yeah.

49:42

And then Max dug

49:44

in is a finalist. I don't know.

49:46

I I felt like Coram would have been a finalist,

49:48

with the knee injury. I don't know. think

49:50

Hannon Hooker could get a

49:52

little influx of votes for being so strong

49:55

at the beginning of season before he got hurt because

49:57

of what's happened in the last few weeks where guys

49:59

are falling

49:59

off, dug

50:00

Instant

50:04

Stetson.

50:06

Stetson. Yeah. I think Stetson's gonna give, like,

50:08

a bunch of third place folks. Will

50:10

will the hooker be Will the hooker rotors

50:13

be split with the studs and motors?

50:16

Hooker rotors will be split if Drake

50:18

May beats clumpson. Drick

50:20

May might be a finalist. Although, I don't think

50:22

that don't

50:22

think after the way the North Carolina finish the season,

50:24

that's a possibility. But If if Drake

50:26

may beat Klompson,

50:29

True. We could. What

50:31

if Drake may wins the Hizeman?

50:33

That's not Hizeman. I

50:34

know it's not, but I mean, Again,

50:37

whoever has the best game that last week Instant

50:40

five million becomes seven million.

50:43

or as

50:47

Alright. I said I

50:49

I said somebody asked me about the transfer

50:51

portal on on local radio. And

50:54

I said, somebody texted me

50:56

a number, not that they were

50:58

representing an offer, but that they were guessing

51:01

at the market value. And I

51:03

honestly felt

51:05

like North Carolina would just be repulsed

51:07

at the idea of paying somebody that much.

51:10

I gotta say I wonder if that same person

51:12

has been sending me offers for players

51:14

this way. Like,

51:20

I mean, I felt

51:21

like North Carolina was like, how

51:23

much? Go. I

51:27

mean, for football? No.

51:31

Could he shoot from three? Yeah.

51:35

Can he rebound? I mean, I

51:37

don't know. I mean, we're missing

51:39

Brady Manik right now. What is he getting

51:41

out from Omni Arc? What

51:44

do they paint you? What what do they paint you

51:46

music?

51:47

i think I

51:49

mean, not enough apparently.

51:54

or or too much depending

51:56

on your analysis of it. Alright.

51:59

Seven hundred

51:59

k. Would

52:01

you rather pay Gene Chiswick seven hundred

52:03

k for the job he's done, or pay

52:05

Drake May like four or five million to keep him?

52:08

for

52:08

year three of Drake May.

52:10

Drake May?

52:11

Yeah.

52:13

Yeah. I could

52:13

find the high school defensive coordinator to to give

52:15

you similar results to what you had this year. if

52:17

you want to finish by a defensive

52:20

coordinator right now. Yeah. I

52:22

just I just feel like it would offend some

52:24

sensibilities in Chapel Hill think

52:26

that they're gonna pay. That's what that's

52:28

what that's what my thought was.

52:30

I was like, I was like, what?

52:32

We we pay a college

52:35

athlete to participate in

52:37

extracurricular activities.

52:40

Five million

52:43

Are those online course credits

52:45

not enough?

52:48

Unless

52:50

the extracurricular activity happens to be basketball.

52:52

And then Yeah.

52:55

No.

52:55

Then then Jimmy Seafoods. Got

52:57

it. We back at the Brink's truck, baby,

53:00

by the way.

53:03

North Texas ticket? I

53:08

hedged out, but, you know, it

53:11

was

53:11

a good run. but

53:13

Frank Harris is is nasty.

53:15

He's legit. So what so he's talking

53:17

about seventeen Instant in Qs of the

53:19

last two years now? as

53:22

they're on their way out. Right? Yeah. Seventeen

53:24

in one over the last two years. They didn't

53:26

lose this year in Cuba? No. No?

53:29

Right? And they lost and the only game they lost last

53:31

year -- North Texas. -- Texas. It was

53:33

the game they laid down for. They they keep up

53:35

they kept their starters out.

53:36

Wagon.

53:38

Yeah.

53:39

Sounds like a good

53:42

omen for the Bobcats. Omen

53:44

for the Bobcats. Let's

53:47

go lion's Wait. The

53:49

wait locks have started off this week. I don't know.

53:51

I'm I'm kinda scared. Did you did

53:53

you see her Akron Buffalo ended?

53:55

Yeah. Well,

53:58

I mean, I saw how Buffalo

53:59

was just

54:01

sitting on its tail. for

54:04

the first, like, what, two quarters?

54:07

I was Oh, you didn't see the final, like, like, the final

54:09

sequence? The

54:10

final touch sound?

54:11

No. The final, like, the final sequence.

54:15

Alright. So Akron picks

54:17

off Buffalo, runs it back to

54:19

the Buffalo, like, thirty three or

54:22

ish. The very next play,

54:24

the

54:24

running back quarterback fumbled these chains.

54:28

Give me back to Buffalo, Buffalo drives down,

54:30

fourth down, the back end touchdown.

54:32

It was

54:34

infection.

54:37

Yeah. I I at the beginning of the week.

54:40

watching Serbia's Switzerland at the time,

54:42

to be honest. the beginning of

54:44

that game, I thought Buffalo was, like, Like,

54:47

I did they I was wondering, like,

54:49

did they clear it with the players that they wanted

54:51

to play this game get doable? because

54:54

the point that came out, they did not look

54:56

at all interested to be in that game.

54:58

Yeah.

55:03

finesse. Alright.

55:04

So

55:08

we will be back with you. Saturday

55:11

night with all the

55:13

reaction to everything

55:16

that's in the Ohio state.

55:18

Congratulations. You're back in the game.

55:22

Gross ass

55:24

to Los Alabama.

55:27

It might be too. We'll

55:29

see how things go on Saturday. Now

55:33

that I've said, I'm not gonna do the reaction show on

55:35

Tuesdays if Alabama gets Instant playoff. do

55:37

I want Ella, Bama

55:39

to get in the playoff?

55:42

And also, we'll be here

55:44

on Sunday after the playoff gets announced.

55:47

So one way or the other, we'll

55:49

be here. But most of

55:51

all, I do wanna end this on a high note, so congratulations.

55:54

Nicole Whittingham, a man who

55:56

I watched, on

55:58

film, continue

56:01

recruiting call, in the midst

56:03

of fire of a fire alarm.

56:06

There was an actual fire alarm going

56:09

on in a university building

56:12

Cal Whittingham said, no. Fire

56:16

ain't got shit on me.

56:20

and he sat there with his tray,

56:23

and he continued recruiting. And

56:26

those are the kind of stones that when you

56:28

It packed twelve championship. Two

56:31

in a row. Put

56:33

the record.

56:35

Salute to you, Kyle,

56:37

waiting him. Mhmm. Your Utah

56:39

program is the class of the

56:41

packs twelve once again. as

56:43

you take down USC for the second time

56:45

in a season, phenomenal phenomenal

56:49

performance. especially in

56:51

the second half. Even if

56:53

it did come in the midst of a Caleb

56:55

Williams injury,

56:58

So much to get to, so much more

57:00

to unpack here in this conference championship

57:03

weekend, and you can follow.

57:05

him on Twitter at Thom Browne, you can

57:07

follow him on at Bud Elliot three. You can

57:09

follow

57:10

me at chip underscore Patterson. Gentlemen,

57:12

thank you very much. Thank

57:15

you.

57:16

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