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but a couple games. But, dad, Gummy,
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we're gonna do it here. when
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USC
1:50
had that playoff spot
1:52
right there in its hands.
1:54
And then oh.
1:56
Oh, my hands hurt.
1:58
Oh, no. Oh,
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I'm a drop it.
2:01
Oh, I'm a fumble it.
2:04
Utah did the DAGOM
2:06
thing. Forty seven to twenty four,
2:09
the Utah youths are the Pac
2:11
twelve champions Congratulations to
2:13
Kyle Whittingham. Congratulations to
2:16
this team that not only decided
2:19
to drag him with a two point
2:21
conversion to win the game at home,
2:23
but went into Las Vegas neutral
2:26
site territory, and just
2:28
absolutely stuffed out
2:30
the Trojan's in the second half.
2:33
Now there's a lot to get to, including
2:35
Kayla Williams Health. How
2:37
healthy was he during the second half?
2:40
What does that mean for the Hyatt Man Trophy? But
2:43
most importantly, I think
2:45
we gotta give some flowers to a Utah
2:47
team that on this podcast
2:50
and elsewhere, was
2:52
not given as much respect as the Las
2:54
Vegas point spread indicated,
2:58
what did Utah do well? Let's start
3:00
with the flower. We we will get to the playoff
3:02
implications. Hey,
3:05
Ohio State fans. We
3:07
see you. Thanks for tuning in.
3:09
I can tell that Ohio State got good news
3:11
based on the way that all these viewer numbers
3:13
are, I
3:17
I acknowledge this is like good news for a
3:19
business. So let's start
3:21
with Utah. What did Utah do
3:23
well in this game? I
3:25
I thought they schemed up pressures really well.
3:28
Yes.
3:28
They they they use a lot of suns and and and
3:30
slants to confuse USC's offensive line.
3:32
USC does not have great offensive line
3:34
death in your war, east, didn't play tonight. There
3:36
there there yeah. I mean, that was
3:38
something we discussed, I believe, in the Wednesday or
3:40
the Thursday pod it looked like he was going
3:43
to go, and then and then he ended up not going.
3:45
And I I think they took advantage of some
3:47
of US he's often supplying issues. And
3:49
they also like, they weren't afraid to blitz.
3:52
They they trusted their coverage guys.
3:54
Utah's run defense this year has been worse
3:57
than its pasty, and they largely trusted their
3:59
guys to hold up in the back end. Which,
4:01
honestly, when
4:02
Caleb Williams was healthy, it didn't
4:05
hold up in the back end. I mean, he he had
4:07
five explosive plays in the
4:09
first quarter alone before he, you know, pulled his
4:11
hamstring or or hurt his hip, whichever you
4:13
wanna go with there. on that fifty
4:15
nine year run. But almost all
4:18
of Utah's explosive plays
4:20
they allowed were in response
4:22
to having to scramble out out of or do
4:24
some kind heroics within the pocket
4:27
against splits. You talk around lot
4:29
of pressure. They got home with some.
4:32
But once Caleb got hurt, they
4:35
they they could bring a lot more pressure, and he was a
4:37
sitting duck. He was not able to get away from it. They had
4:39
probably four or five Sachs after that, but I thought they schemed
4:41
up pressure really well in this
4:43
game and made USC play left handed at times.
4:46
Yeah. I I did HQ earlier tonight
4:49
like a pre game for this, and I was
4:51
asked what Utah would have to do to win
4:53
this game. I came up with three very basic
4:55
kind of Cliche talking
4:57
points you hear a billion times. But Stop
5:00
the call. No. No. I said, don't turn the
5:02
call over. Thanks. So don't turn
5:04
the ball over because if you don't turn the ball over,
5:06
you're probably gonna score against this defense.
5:09
I said tackle because
5:11
don't don't let the big plays. And then
5:13
I said keep Caleb Williams in the pocket
5:16
because Caleb Williams can kill you in
5:18
the pocket But if you let him escape
5:20
the pocket and run around, he
5:22
will kill you. It's not a matter of can.
5:24
It's a will. Well, I mean,
5:26
the hamstring kind of had that impact
5:29
of keeping him in the pocket. But like Bud said,
5:31
once that happened and, like, Utah spelled blood
5:33
in the water, they did not
5:35
they did not hesitate at all. They went right at
5:38
it and said, oh, okay. You gotta keep him in there. We'll just
5:40
keep doing this. And he can't move. We're gonna hit him,
5:42
and we're gonna take advantage of it. And then
5:44
the thing that they did the best job
5:46
of was run through a bunch of
5:48
weak ass arm tackle attempts by the USC
5:51
defenders who just looked like a bunch
5:53
of guys who were terrified of being
5:55
hit and scared out of their minds
5:57
to try to tackle somebody tonight.
5:59
How does
5:59
fuel Oh, go ahead. Sorry. No.
6:02
Did it feel like you died more than two hundred twenty
6:04
three yards rushing? Yeah. It feels like they had
6:06
six hundred yards. Yeah. Yeah.
6:08
IIII wasn't watching the box
6:10
score live. I I was watching the game and and
6:12
taking my notes. And to
6:14
me, I I expect that to be, like, two seventy,
6:16
two eighty or or, you know, low three
6:18
hundreds, not not two hundred and thirty,
6:20
but they did have some really impressive
6:23
runs. We talked all year about
6:25
how USC's defense is not
6:27
a good defense, but it is a defense
6:29
that has generated a lot of turnovers. We
6:31
know that turnovers have a certain luck component
6:34
Utah also sells out to maximize
6:36
the controllable part of generating
6:39
turnover. And I feel like they've done a
6:41
nice job of that. all year, but it was very
6:43
emblematic. The one turnover that they
6:45
got from Utah was
6:47
on a blown coverage on turn
6:50
down. where you talk against them all, they remember
6:52
the first down, and then it gets poked out.
6:54
Right? It wasn't a pressure created
6:56
turnover or anything like that. I mean, the
6:58
guy literally Caught the ball on
7:00
a busted coverage runs for first and then
7:02
gets it swatted out. Their
7:05
non turnover related stops in this game
7:08
we're kind of few and far between. Utah
7:11
kicks an ill advised fuel goal down
7:14
right close to the goal line early on, which
7:16
honestly, game with a total in the
7:18
sixties is really foolish. Now
7:20
if you heard the quarterback, it doesn't seem to matter
7:23
what you do. But
7:25
that but USC
7:26
got very few stops that
7:28
were not turnover related in this ballgame. Right.
7:31
And there's the one on the third of nineteen
7:33
touchdown from Park. that went for fifty
7:35
seven yards. Oh. The outright
7:38
stupidity. Because why do you try to force a
7:40
turnover? Why are you trying to strip the ball? To
7:42
get the ball back? It's third in nineteen.
7:44
You know how you can get the ball back on third in nineteen. That's
7:46
how it's stripping the ball, tackle him.
7:48
So why the hell are you trying to
7:51
strip the ball out of his hands ten yard
7:53
shy of the fourth or the first down
7:55
marker. Just tackle him. You'll get the
7:57
ball back. It
7:58
just
7:59
dumb. I was
8:00
gonna say how much of this, like, tackling
8:03
issue do we attribute to the fact that,
8:05
like, on the stat
8:07
sheet
8:08
cam rising had a very very
8:10
good game.
8:11
Right? Was
8:12
it -- Yes. --
8:13
over three hundred yards passing,
8:16
three touchdowns, zero interceptions, we'll see.
8:19
twenty two or thirty four. A
8:21
lot of that was yards after the catch.
8:23
Right? Yep. Yep. But but he
8:26
was legitimately better tonight. Like, IIII
8:28
wrote down him in in my notes here, greater
8:31
than Oregon game. Just like he's downgraded
8:33
him -- Yes. -- including his last year
8:35
or after the season. Yeah. He he was legitimately
8:38
a bad player against Oregon. He was one of
8:40
the worst players on the field for Utah that night.
8:42
He didn't run well. It it was clear that the the
8:44
injury was still bothering him a little bit.
8:47
He still doesn't look quite as quick as he once
8:49
did, but at least tonight the throws were
8:51
mostly on target, whereas against Oregon,
8:53
that cameraizing was not on target. He he
8:55
was not good at all tonight. He was plenty
8:58
good enough to beat AAA very
9:00
sketchy USC defense. Yeah.
9:03
I I felt like you said, there was the
9:05
kind of explosiveness, which I wouldn't say camera
9:07
hasn't ever been an explosive runner, but
9:09
just like the overall juice that he does
9:11
have. was not there, at least not
9:13
the guy that they saw earlier in the year.
9:15
But he was effective enough
9:18
in spots keeping the ball on
9:20
some RPO kind of situations. that
9:22
USC's defense had to at least
9:24
respect the option that he would keep,
9:27
which I think made a big difference on a lot
9:29
of those plays because leeway,
9:31
he looked like in Oregon and in other games. I
9:33
feel like the defenses were kinda just selling out because
9:35
they weren't really worried about rising, keeping the ball
9:37
and doing any damage. He did enough tonight to
9:39
where It was just it kept him honest.
9:42
k? So let's go to the other side
9:44
of this. Right?
9:47
USC, What
9:51
went wrong with that offense? because
9:53
Yeah. The volumes got hurt. Yeah. I mean,
9:55
like, literally, I So
9:58
at at eight fifty two is before he
9:59
gets hurt. I
10:00
texted my buddies because they knew I
10:03
I had USC in this game. I said, I think someone what
10:05
USC is doing is on sustainable and yet they're
10:07
up fourteen to three. You know?
10:09
And then he goes on the fifty nine
10:11
yard run. Right? they
10:15
the
10:15
broadcast I
10:17
tweeted about this. I think it, like, eight thirty
10:19
or some somewhere around there. It
10:21
takes some ninety minutes to acknowledge on the
10:23
broadcast that Caleb Williams
10:25
has a leg injury, by the way. When clearly,
10:28
now they're they're only showing his upper after
10:30
that. and he's looking over to the sideline,
10:33
and I see his head doing like this.
10:35
Right? But I'm not seeing what the leg action is doing, and
10:37
I'm trying to lie bet this thing. I'm like, is Caleb
10:39
Leaves hurt? Like, what what are we doing? because he's
10:41
like, it looks like he's lipid. Right? And I don't
10:43
know what's going on. And I'm like, oh, his hands bleed.
10:45
I'm like, I
10:50
don't care about it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold
10:52
on. He could have been losing enough blood
10:54
from his hand if there wasn't enough circulation
10:56
in the leg. That could have been the problem.
10:59
fair fair enough? Yes. I mean, like, there's no
11:01
doubt. Maybe he's trying to, like, like, dodge
11:03
the the blood drops from hitting his leg, you know,
11:05
and it doesn't doesn't want it to happen. But I'm,
11:07
like, hey, Fox broadcast. Can you, like,
11:09
maybe have someone in the building? Take a look
11:11
and see if Caleb Williams is is limping
11:13
around because literally every decent
11:15
play Utah has had tonight,
11:18
has been off script. It's been Caleb Williams
11:20
having to slide around in the pocket a ton
11:22
or just outright scramble and then
11:24
literally scramble out of the pocket and go
11:26
or scramble out of the pocket and launch.
11:28
And I'm like, how do we not talk
11:30
about this
11:31
for ninety minutes that's
11:33
crazy. I mean, it was
11:36
to me, it was obvious, like, he had he had
11:38
one keeper after that and he had no
11:40
juice on it. You know is
11:42
probably at least has one
11:44
pair of doctors, which I think might be more than the
11:46
Fox broadcast had than I I assume
11:48
they were on scene. Like, I don't know what the spotter's doing.
11:51
not taking a look at that. But once
11:53
you toss all the Caleb Williams could not run
11:55
or at least could not run to anywhere close
11:57
to the normal standard that he runs, it
12:00
it was on, man. Because honestly, this
12:02
is the why why texted my group chat. Like, this
12:04
is unsustainable. Because
12:06
the
12:07
stuff they were doing was sort
12:09
of off script stuff. It wasn't really like
12:11
the playoff USC was calling, was working.
12:13
I thought Utah had a good plan it
12:15
just was getting beat by Caleb
12:18
off script because he's that good of an athlete and
12:20
that special of a player. But once he was hurt,
12:22
they
12:22
were in trouble.
12:28
So
12:29
we know Ohio State's getting their spot. Right?
12:32
Wait. Let's save that for the other
12:34
side. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
12:37
Sorry. No.
12:38
No. No. We no. Listen. USC
12:40
deserves a, like, open
12:43
it up. Like like this is
12:45
the the frog in biology. Like,
12:47
we we we we gotta say no
12:49
no no no no. Because You
12:51
couldn't run the ball?
12:52
No. You
12:54
couldn't do anything outside of Caleb Williams' Hero
12:56
Ball? No.
12:59
You were You had your season on the
13:01
line for this entire second half.
13:04
All you needed was like one
13:06
scoring drive. You
13:08
couldn't go get it. And yes, like Caleb
13:11
was hurt, but
13:12
you couldn't get it.
13:14
It was they did go get it though.
13:16
Didn't they? They got it a couple times. I mean,
13:18
yeah, they they they wouldn't got it. And, like, they
13:22
they they ran for for what point three carry,
13:24
a hundred twenty five yards. They they
13:27
had settled the yards by USC.
13:29
No. I'm talking about USC. Yeah. Exactly. No.
13:31
No. No. SAC adjusted, buds. Right? SAC adjusted,
13:33
they average six point three yards for rush. Yeah.
13:35
They just had seventy yards and Zach's lost.
13:38
I
13:38
mean, like,
13:39
I don't really put this on the offense. Caleb
13:41
had three hundred sixty three through the air and
13:44
three tuddies. It it if
13:46
he's healthy, they probably score forty on this Utah
13:48
defense. Utah really wasn't getting down.
13:51
But
13:51
I I will say though, like we talked
13:53
before he said that. not without without
13:56
without Caleb. Mhmm.
13:57
No. They weren't able to run the ball without
13:59
No.
13:59
That's
14:00
fair. Yeah.
14:01
That's what I'm saying. Like, you you
14:03
you had no balance. It was it was Caleb robust.
14:06
Mhmm. He had zero touchdowns
14:08
for a long stretch of this game.
14:11
Yes. You had one touchdown in the second
14:13
half. I thought they were gonna pull them.
14:17
Should they have pulled them? No. Because,
14:19
like, I I watched the end of that Colorado game
14:21
with the the the backup who's
14:23
saying I probably should have written down. And
14:25
Oh,
14:27
Yes. All he could do was throw
14:29
was throw swing screens. Like, that's really
14:31
the only playoff let him run-in that Colorado
14:34
game. That's like the only action I've seen him get this year.
14:37
probably because USC plays a lot of close games
14:40
late because they they don't get a lot of stops.
14:43
Caleb on
14:44
one leg is still better than Miller Masse
14:46
on two. Miller
14:48
Masse said the name of a derivative school
14:51
yard rapper. But I I
14:53
just it's we mentioned
14:55
Voorhees was out, and I lose the center
14:57
in the fourth quarter, but, like, we talked
15:00
all season about
15:02
how Utah this year, was
15:04
it all when we talked about Utah, not all season?
15:06
But we we talked about how they weren't the same
15:08
kind of team and the trenches that we saw last
15:11
year. they looked
15:13
that way tonight against USC,
15:15
like, 2E2Y triple 02I think I
15:17
heard his name once. I thought he
15:19
got taken out of the game. I thought
15:21
the offensive line, which is I just said they had
15:23
injuries. They were short of you guys. I felt they were
15:25
struggling to get any kind of push
15:27
upfront. And I think that I
15:30
mean, we saw it with not
15:32
just in the tackling, but just in the lines,
15:34
like, Utah was looked
15:36
like Utah tonight. it was the tougher
15:38
team than USC. USC looked
15:41
soft. Like, that has always been the silly
15:43
kind of narrative about that team. Like, oh,
15:45
the pack twelve is soft, blah blah blah. Utah
15:47
is not soft there in the pack twelve. They've won it two
15:49
straight years in a row. USC
15:51
looks soft tonight. And I just wonder, like, spinning
15:54
this forward That
15:56
team's gonna be in the big ten in a couple years.
15:59
There's a lot of Utah in the big ten.
16:02
Like, they need to figure that out if
16:04
they're going to adjust to their new life
16:06
in their new, you know, conference. mean,
16:08
obviously, if they still have Caleb Williams and he's healthy,
16:10
they're probably gonna win plenty of games. But when
16:12
it gets to winning the big ten, getting playoff
16:15
birds. That's something they need to
16:17
figure out. I mean,
16:19
and the thing is, guys, Utah
16:22
is not that physical on the lines of scrimmage
16:24
this year. They've been pushed around.
16:26
Right? Oregon
16:27
pushed them around.
16:28
Florida pushed them around. there's
16:30
probably a couple other games. Honestly, Oregon
16:33
state's offensive line moved
16:35
Utah just fine. That that that was back when they had
16:37
real quarterback problems. They threw four picks. in
16:39
the first forty minutes of the ballgame. So it was
16:41
never really close enough to where the beavers
16:44
pushing around Utah matter. I mean, this
16:46
is not your standard Utah
16:48
team typically, which I think
16:50
does speak to wow. Like,
16:52
if that's not your standard Utah team along lines
16:54
of scrimmage and USC look that soft,
16:57
Yeah. III agree. The 1II
17:00
thought two, he did have one really nice play.
17:02
There was, like, a third down in three Utah
17:04
runs it and he blew it up. Yes. Yeah.
17:06
He he smoked it. But I Mhmm. It was
17:08
a nice play by him. I I think the center guard
17:10
also kinda olaid it. You
17:13
had a Utah team that was challenged. Like,
17:17
you know, we we were talking about all these different
17:19
spots during the season where they did not
17:21
look like they were up to the standard. we
17:24
put on record and we were not
17:26
the only ones saying that this Utah
17:28
team did not necessarily look like
17:30
they were up to the standard. Cal
17:33
Whittingham told us on
17:35
the record that they loved
17:38
that. You know, they loved
17:40
being able to have that chip on their shoulder. Instant
17:43
they end up going ahead and proving.
17:46
Congratulations to the Utah youth.
17:49
You are
17:50
pack twelve you will
17:52
be in the rose bowl. As
17:55
for USC.
17:58
Boy, I
18:00
was
18:00
I was gonna make a joke about how Utah won't
18:03
be playing in the rose bowl, but for a different reason
18:05
than we thought two days ago.
18:09
Won't
18:09
be? Well,
18:10
because Ohio State doesn't wanna play in the rose ball
18:12
this year, and now they don't have to. because
18:15
they're in the college football playoff. Yeah.
18:17
Coming up
18:19
on the other side, the college
18:22
football playoff impacts of
18:25
Utah taking down USC. What
18:27
that means for the Buckeyes and more
18:31
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This is revision
20:55
as history 101 with
20:57
the cover three podcast.
21:00
as m h says, USC
21:03
should have hired Whittingham and not Riley.
21:10
Kyle
21:10
Whittingham was mentioned,
21:13
I have zero idea if he was actually
21:16
a
21:16
candidate for this job.
21:18
Why? Because the USC job was open
21:20
in September. We
21:23
mentioned everyone for the
21:26
USC job. Tal
21:28
winning him. Of course, he was mentioned because
21:31
we had three months dimension
21:33
in a name before Lincoln Riley was
21:35
eventually named the head coach.
21:39
But alright.
21:42
Kyle
21:42
Weddingham would not have this USC team
21:44
in the back to old title game this year.
21:46
No sense. Oh, yeah. Like, transfer
21:49
portal, like Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
21:52
That's a great way to
21:54
squash that. Thank you, bud.
21:57
I mean, you're you're bringing your weight here. That's
21:59
a that's a it's a good
22:02
way to be able to affirmatively
22:04
be like, no. No.
22:05
That that would not be the case right
22:07
now. So He's an awesome coach. Alright. We
22:09
we we could have the conversation. Would he have him in a
22:11
in a better spot than, like, in the last three years?
22:14
Yeah. Yeah. But
22:17
For this year, I mean, this
22:19
probably the last time we'll talk USC for maybe
22:21
a week or two. it is hard
22:23
to imagine much of a better season for
22:26
USC than than their fans
22:28
could really hope for. Right? mean -- Mhmm.
22:30
-- good morning. Eleven two.
22:33
Yep. That's that's pretty damn good.
22:35
Mhmm. like,
22:37
compared to like, they over
22:39
their wind total, they
22:42
were sitting here on the first
22:44
Saturday in this or first Friday in December
22:46
with the chance to be in the college
22:48
football playoff. That's
22:51
that's all you want. You saw
22:53
whatnot be in the college for a ball playoff? Nope.
22:57
Ohio
22:58
is.
22:59
Yes.
23:00
They're in. Yeah. Correct.
23:03
I mean, unless the committee
23:05
does something we have never seen
23:08
them do and allows USC to
23:10
stay in. even though it's just lost,
23:12
which I don't think they're gonna do because
23:15
they've always said that, you know,
23:17
conference titles or whatever are tie breaker
23:19
in similar situation. but USC no
23:21
longer has a conference title.
23:24
How state is the loss? and they have
23:26
half as many losses. And they've got
23:28
a pretty good win over Penn State.
23:30
as far as the rankings are concerned. So Ohio
23:32
State is it. And now there is
23:36
it's not gonna happen, but
23:38
it There
23:39
is an actual scenario in
23:42
which we have a fourteen college football
23:44
playoff without a single
23:46
conference champion in it. if
23:49
Georgia, Michigan, and TCU
23:51
all lose tomorrow, it'll
23:54
be either Ohio State,
23:56
TCU, Alabama, Michigan,
23:58
and Georgia comprising
23:59
the field, and none of them will have won their conference.
24:04
Man, what
24:05
is the system?
24:06
a
24:13
We have awesome. I haven't thought about that.
24:15
Yeah. No. III mean, I
24:18
I would like for the conference Championship
24:20
to mean something. And, you
24:24
know,
24:25
this weekend, they really don't. There's reason
24:27
why we're doing a reaction show on a Friday night.
24:31
I mean, I mean, Joanna's tomorrow at two thirty
24:33
as we previewed the SC title game between Georgia
24:35
and and LSU. Obviously, I'll
24:38
I'll be on there, and I'm excited to do it. But No.
24:42
I I think you need to have some stakes in these games.
24:45
If you just made the conference championship
24:49
A requirement, the conference
24:51
championship games would just become
24:53
playoff games and you would have an
24:55
expanded college football playoff.
24:59
but
25:00
can't do that. That's been way too easy.
25:03
Exactly. So
25:05
what chance do you give Ohio State?
25:08
to get in here and, like,
25:10
rack shop.
25:12
Well,
25:14
the
25:17
if it depends on the
25:19
matchup. Like, if I
25:21
actually know it doesn't because, like, if they're gonna
25:23
end up having to playoff, Michigan and Georgia
25:25
win, high states either playing Michigan
25:28
again, which is beating it up two
25:30
years in a row, or it's gonna
25:32
play Georgia. which beat up
25:34
the same Michigan that beat it up last
25:36
year and will probably beat the hell out of it
25:38
this year. They
25:40
will be favored over Michigan if if match up.
25:43
Oh,
25:43
sure they will. And they'll lose again. They
25:45
could. Yeah. I mean
25:47
Oh. Or or it could go the way that George
25:50
Alabama went around to last year. Right.
25:52
That's me. It's Michigan. Oh, it's
25:54
Jude Blake Coram will be injured. Oh, wait.
25:57
He was hurt in the first game.
26:01
like like like Quorum as
26:03
as Williams. That's that's interesting. Uh-huh.
26:07
Look. They'll be they will not be
26:09
a touchdown dog, George. I can tell you that.
26:11
It'll
26:12
it'll be less.
26:13
Mhmm. I just I Ohio State will
26:15
be a live team in the college football playoff. It's
26:17
got a very good quarterback. It's got
26:19
great wider soccer state. It has very
26:21
talented players. It is a live, quote,
26:23
unquote, dog in the playoff. It's
26:26
It could beat Michigan. It could beat Georgia.
26:28
It could beat TCU. Will it? I
26:30
don't know. Because they just seemed
26:32
to Bunch
26:34
of in the face, they don't seem to react very well.
26:37
Well, I'm just saying eight years ago,
26:40
they
26:40
did not win. You
26:43
know, they
26:44
in twenty fourteen? They
26:46
won their conference. Mhmm. But
26:48
that ten loss That
26:51
team wasn't as talented.
26:55
It was
26:55
still pretty talented.
26:58
But I
26:59
thought that that team had a little bit of
27:01
a more of a little
27:04
more little more
27:05
guts than
27:07
than this team has. I've
27:09
looked into that team before, the receiving
27:12
the the receivers on that team were nuts.
27:14
It was like Michael Thomas and Mhmm.
27:16
-- a bunch of guys who would go on to
27:18
play for for a decent
27:20
while in the NFL. Right? but
27:23
they also like, that Ohio State team,
27:26
they
27:26
got
27:27
one of the worst bama team
27:29
who who was the quarterback for bama? It was, like, the worst
27:31
quarterback PAMA's run out there that has, you know, made
27:33
the playoffs or or the BCS. Was
27:36
that The guy who
27:38
was, like, moving from receiver to to court or
27:40
to court back and back? HIM's.
27:42
Yes. Yeah. Right.
27:44
I mean, like like Sam's not
27:47
a capable thrower at a championship
27:49
level, honestly. And so they they
27:51
took advantage of that. They haven't had
27:53
a couple issues that year. They they beat them. You
27:56
know, dalvin cooked fumbles four times in the
27:58
rose bowl. as he's averaging, like,
28:00
twelve yards carry against Oregon,
28:03
and then they bully Oregon at the line
28:05
of scrimmage, you know, and and and beat Marietta.
28:08
the And, I
28:09
mean, they had their third string quarterback in.
28:11
So it's like it's yeah.
28:14
Braxton, that's what I mean is JT. Yeah.
28:16
It's like they weren't as talented at the quarterback position
28:18
as they are right now, but they had good players
28:20
and they were I felt like the defense was a little
28:23
saltier too. think
28:25
so. Look, so if Ohio's well,
28:27
we need to stop using if. When Ohio
28:29
State gets in, I am curious
28:31
to see if Ohio State is able to lean on
28:34
its front seven more and
28:35
have
28:36
a little more variety in terms of the coverage,
28:39
not coverage it playoff, but just the depth
28:41
of their safeties. Right? maybe
28:43
don't have everybody quite so close. I know it's
28:45
a Jim Knowles. Do you dare him again? Do you dare
28:47
him? I I'm gonna dare
28:49
him on some place. for sure. I just don't
28:51
know if I'm gonna dare them quite as frequently. You
28:53
know, I I think back to that Penn state game
28:55
where where, you know, j t to him allow,
28:57
I had a really nice ballgame. They they have
28:59
some good players on that Ohio
29:01
State front. But, Tom,
29:03
it's a great question. I'm like, would you dare him? Because
29:06
Michigan, again, three hundred
29:08
and sixty yards on five plays, three
29:10
point o on the other fifty four plays. Like,
29:12
I think on the other fifty four on the sixty plays,
29:15
they had pretty nice nice day. Mhmm.
29:18
When
29:18
you were filling out your all
29:20
American ballot, but do
29:22
you? Who this?
29:25
I
29:25
didn't have a vote. Okay.
29:26
I
29:28
didn't
29:28
have a lot of high state defense playoff.
29:33
Neither did I? Did you
29:34
have a lot of Michigan defense defensive players?
29:37
Nope.
29:37
I had two.
29:40
And we go deep. Like, the the ballad
29:43
is, like -- Yeah. -- down to, like,
29:45
LB6 and, like, DL8
29:48
or whatever. I think
29:50
I had
29:51
one or two. Would you have Mike
29:53
Morris?
29:54
Yeah. Mike
29:56
Morrison, make mine. I
29:59
don't
29:59
know
29:59
if I had any Michigan I'm trying to think off top
30:02
of my head. This is a great podcasting right now.
30:05
I don't think I did. I feel like
30:07
that's more of a you. I know had had a few offensive
30:10
players on there.
30:12
I know Oulu was on there. I know Korn
30:14
was on there. Do
30:16
you have any Georgia ones? Or
30:18
defense? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
30:21
A hundred percent. Yeah.
30:25
No.
30:25
I I didn't do that pro football
30:27
focused move of, like, only
30:30
my only my formula.
30:33
produced
30:33
his numbers. Highest grade.
30:35
Yeah. My high my highest grade for the
30:37
season. High
30:39
grade for the season.
30:41
Sorry. Jill
30:43
and Carter, you did? You
30:45
did. Congratulations. Yeah.
30:48
That that would be The Dumas Johnson kid for
30:51
Georgia, by the way. has been pretty damn good
30:53
too. The
30:54
sophomore --
30:55
Mhmm. -- that their their linebacker, like,
30:57
that that guy, I've I've watched some of these playoff
30:59
teams he's all over the field.
31:01
Howard
31:03
so
31:05
Bauchner: So now that we
31:08
have come to the place
31:10
where a higher state is
31:11
in.
31:13
Right?
31:14
Yeah. Now,
31:16
let's talk about it.
31:18
What
31:19
do you want to talk about? Let's talk about
31:21
it.
31:22
What? Guys, we gotta talk about
31:24
it.
31:26
Again, if if if
31:28
if if if the
31:30
Kansas State wildcats, which are
31:32
narrow underdogs, against
31:35
TCU if
31:38
Kansas state defeats
31:40
the horn frogs.
31:43
Are we really
31:45
talking about it? Are
31:47
we really talking about it? Because
31:50
currently Instant football playoff
31:52
selection committee rankings, Ohio State's
31:54
number five. Sure. You're in. I get
31:57
it. You got one lost. That one lost is to
31:59
Michigan. Michigan is a team that's currently
32:01
ranks number two. in the college football
32:03
playoff rankings. The
32:05
team that is currently ranks number six
32:08
in the college football playoff rankings has
32:10
two losses. which
32:12
means that their arrival in the top
32:14
four on Sunday would
32:16
be historic. But
32:18
would not be historic is the
32:20
inclusion of that program in
32:22
the college football playoff because
32:25
they have been in it so many dagom
32:27
times. If
32:30
TCU, who
32:32
is again, just a narrow
32:34
favorite
32:35
to a team, that it was
32:37
trailing
32:41
early the first time they played.
32:45
Are we really talking about it? If TCU loses
32:47
to Kansas State, Alabama Instant
32:50
I can I pose you a question? Yeah.
32:52
I mean, the the this is the time. questions.
32:55
Alright. Well, let's let's take
32:57
a look at Alabama.
32:59
Instant two. It's best win. It's
33:02
number twenty, Texas. Neither
33:04
the last second field goal to beat them even though they're
33:06
starting quarterback. Got back. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Game in the
33:08
first half. Scott had went
33:10
over Mississippi State, which magically appeared
33:12
in the rankings this week, and
33:15
it had narrow escape against tax saying,
33:17
man, and both of its losses were closed blah blah
33:19
blah. If the close if the losses are close being
33:21
matters, then the winds being close matters
33:23
too. So that team's tended to.
33:27
A
33:27
team lost tonight for
33:29
the second time this season,
33:31
but it only lost to the same team.
33:34
a team that is ranked in the number
33:37
eleven will be ranked higher
33:39
come Sunday. And that
33:41
team has one more win
33:44
than Alabama. And
33:46
that team has a win over number
33:48
seventeen and a win over number twenty
33:50
one.
33:53
If you're going to let a two loss
33:55
team in, is the one that lost
33:57
tonight not the one with the better overall resume?
34:02
It's a fair point. It
34:05
kinda makes you wonder, like, does the committee really
34:07
believe it's underwriting as far
34:09
as its resume? Or are they really going to look
34:11
at it like that? Or are they gonna sort of eye
34:14
test it? I I don't think there's any way
34:16
USC gets in over Alabama. person.
34:18
Either do I, but my point is
34:21
logically, how do you justify putting
34:23
in Alabama over USC? I
34:26
mean, you want these teams to play conference championship
34:28
games. Right? And you are sort of penalizing
34:30
USC here for playing in in a
34:32
conference championship game. I I agree. I
34:35
Dan Wetzel made this point for Yahoo in a column,
34:38
a similar point to what Tom's making. And I
34:40
think this year, in particular, is unique
34:42
year in which it really does apply. honestly,
34:45
just logically,
34:47
the four teams that made it in this weekend
34:49
should be in. They they should be in. I loved
34:51
in, but he also included that detail,
34:53
but he said USC won its division
34:56
and there's no division playoff. Oh,
34:58
true. Yeah. I I listened to this, and
35:00
I make us so many mistakes. I make
35:02
a ton of mistakes, but I just,
35:05
you know, you're I saw that one and
35:07
I was like, oh, yikes. love
35:09
you, Dan.
35:10
come on.
35:13
But
35:13
I I'm just saying If Alabama gets
35:15
in, I know I've said it before. I'm
35:18
I'm out. on the playoff period.
35:20
I'll talk about it because I have to for work, but
35:22
I'm never gonna care about anything that they
35:24
do. I Bama
35:26
can get in, I think, if TCU
35:29
gets blown out or
35:32
if Doug can get hurt. enough to where
35:34
the committee really thinks he's gonna miss the playoff
35:37
or both.
35:38
Having two teams who did not
35:41
play for a conference championship.
35:44
One that lost twice. One that didn't even limit
35:46
its own -- Yes. -- and the first ever
35:48
to lost team. Mhmm.
35:50
The first two lost team to make it will be a
35:52
team that didn't win its own division if that happens.
35:55
Yeah. I I always envisioned a two lost team
35:57
making it being a team that
35:59
had a guy
35:59
hurt during the season, suffered
36:02
some weird losses, got healthy,
36:04
got right at the right time, won
36:06
its conference, was clearly like, hey,
36:08
like, this is the best team or
36:10
one of the four best teams in the sport now that it's
36:12
healthy again. Right? Maybe, like like a USC
36:14
in two thousand seven. When John David Moody
36:16
was hurt, they lost twice. Right? and then
36:19
two thousand u USC at full strength. It's
36:21
just as good as USC or LSU was
36:23
that you're just as good as Ohio State
36:26
was at at etcetera etcetera. But it
36:28
would be weird to put this Bama team
36:30
in. Like, Bama fans in
36:32
the chat. Do you really believe this
36:34
Bama team is anywhere near
36:36
as good as as your normal Bama teams are?
36:38
I they haven't really played like it.
36:40
Right? I mean,
36:43
it
36:43
would be strange. But I I wouldn't put it past
36:45
the committee if TCU gets blown
36:47
out or if Ducking gets hurt. Because
36:49
if Ducking gets hurt, they're gonna use the whole hooker
36:52
argument. Right? that, hey, look, we gotta
36:54
drop now because it's an important player. Right. Another
36:56
another two lost team of the better resume than Alabama.
36:59
Tennessee. Oh, it actually beat Alabama.
37:02
But if we cannot consider them
37:04
for a playoff or Just pure
37:06
scalps. Right? Just pure wins and losses.
37:08
Yes. Tennessee is a better resume.
37:11
Tennessee also lost by, like, a thirty
37:13
burger to South
37:15
Carolina team that also beat top ten clums in.
37:18
By one? Just one. He can they're just peeking at
37:20
the right time. Yeah. That's
37:23
that's fair. They also lost at home in Missouri.
37:26
you know, I you're the if you're the committee,
37:28
you're if if the committee wants to put Alabama in,
37:30
they're only in hard on quality of play
37:32
as opposed to, you know, narrow losses.
37:34
Right? They competed on the
37:36
road, buzzword, buzzword, buzzword,
37:39
real time, buzzword, buzzword, game
37:41
control. Yeah.
37:43
Except for all the games they weren't Yeah.
37:45
Except for all of the games that they
37:47
weren't controlling every single
37:49
time. They just put outside
37:52
of Bryant Denny Stadium, and they weren't
37:54
controlling the game. And even one time
37:56
when they were inside against the the worst team in
37:58
the FCC. Alabama is
37:59
one of the ten best teams in the country. It's probably
38:02
one of the six best teams in the country. It's
38:04
not one of the four best teams in the country, and it
38:06
sure is only one of the best Alabama teams you've
38:08
ever It's probably the worst Alabama team we've
38:10
seen in a decade.
38:13
Yuck. What
38:15
a fun position we're in.
38:18
I'm telling you, if they get in, I'm out.
38:21
I won't do the reaction shows. I will talk
38:23
about them on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, but
38:25
I will not show up for a single reaction show.
38:28
Wait. There's
38:29
Reaction. Not I mean, CFP
38:32
reaction show.
38:33
Not Reaction. shows. When we sit on
38:35
Tuesday nights to talk about those rankings, I will
38:37
not show up.
38:38
We only have one more year. No,
38:42
we don't. Chip, they're gonna have breaking shows
38:44
for every single week during the twelve teamer.
38:46
We got us to figure out who the at large firsts
38:48
are gonna be. Oh, you're gonna
38:51
flake out of that one. So I was gonna say okay.
38:56
Well, And
38:57
I'm not flaking out. I am emphatically
39:00
saying I will not do it. There's no flake
39:02
kick. I'm not gonna come up with a wave excuse. Tell
39:04
you're right now, won't be there.
39:06
Paul gave enough money to this. Chicago
39:09
Drive, Paul League. Yeah.
39:14
Paul gave enough money to Saint Jude's to get
39:16
a spot on a lock show. He just said he'll
39:19
do it. So, you know, Paul can take my
39:21
spot on Tuesday night. Yeah. Yeah. May maybe
39:23
that's what we'll do. is next
39:25
time our Saint Jude's marathon comes
39:27
around, we'll just do a a like,
39:30
who wants to come and talk about the
39:32
rankings every single
39:34
Tuesday night, a twelve
39:36
team playoff era.
39:39
I tell you. I don't
39:42
know why they got them at number eleven. They're
39:44
clearly number fourteen to me.
39:51
If you're
39:53
Kirby Smarter, you pissed. No.
39:56
You're I think you're a little
39:59
pissed. Like, if Alabama I think that's him.
40:01
No. You'd much rather pull definitely if Alabama
40:03
gets it. Listen here. Really well. like,
40:06
you better play USC than Ohio State of your curve.
40:08
Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Okay.
40:11
because I wouldn't I'll just hand the ball
40:13
off forty times, and I'll win the game by thirty.
40:17
Yeah.
40:19
Number seven on US will be imprinted
40:21
in the ground the way he's been trying to tackle
40:23
people. I was gonna shorten it. This
40:26
was my playoff Reaction, by the way.
40:28
Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia Bama.
40:30
So if this
40:32
happens, I do need you to pull a clip. Mine
40:35
too? Yes.
40:36
So Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say Tom said
40:38
that a hard stay in Michigan would both
40:40
be undefeated heading
40:42
into the game. And
40:43
they would both make the college football playoff. I'm
40:46
a genius. What can I say? Yeah.
40:49
I
40:49
was gonna say Kirby say, Listen
40:53
here, we just wanna keep things the the main
40:55
thing, the main thing. Alright.
40:58
And so who we play does not matter
41:01
compared to our standard that we wanna keep.
41:06
So This
41:07
this game will be like like like battle for
41:09
cale downs. The the the playoff winner
41:11
gets cale downs. The the the five star safety come
41:13
into the bama. because
41:15
you're, like, Georgia Georgia and Ohio State are both
41:17
trying to flip them. So probably
41:20
the best DB in the country. and
41:23
that's
41:25
decided before the semi finals.
41:28
Oh, true. Yeah. If you're
41:30
if you're Sunny Dikes in that TCU coaching
41:32
staff right now, are you putting together a game plan just
41:34
not to get blown out? So I
41:37
thought about this, like, tempo wise,
41:39
man, like, Do do you run your do you
41:41
run full tempo? Slow it
41:43
down. Slow it
41:45
down. I mean, so maybe, you know, I've been watching
41:47
much World Cup this week and just seeing, like, Spain
41:50
laid down to make sure that Germany
41:52
gets knocked out and stuff like that. If I'm TCU,
41:54
I think tomorrow, I'm just I'm gonna be
41:56
pretty conservative tomorrow.
41:59
Alright. I
41:59
I don't
42:00
agree with him going conservative, but
42:02
I do think there is, like, if I was coaching
42:05
DCU, there is scenario that I would
42:07
play differently than what Lincoln Reilly did tonight.
42:09
And I'm telling you Lincoln Reilly did the thing tonight
42:11
that would allow them to win the game if they convert
42:14
but I forgot what what drive this was.
42:16
Maybe the Penultimate driver, the third and last
42:18
drive. But he goes
42:20
for it on, like, fourth and eighteen they're
42:22
down couple scores, so you have to
42:24
have it. I think I
42:26
surrender front there. And it like,
42:29
if I'm down fourteen, you
42:30
know, And
42:32
I know I, like, just math wise, I almost
42:34
certainly can't win the game. Mhmm. I'm
42:36
not going forward on fourth in eighteen on my own
42:38
end, allowing them to beat them by twenty one to
42:40
give them any excuse. because I don't think a fourteen
42:42
point loss and finishing
42:44
twelve and one
42:45
knocks me out.
42:46
Are you going to Chris climbing? Are
42:49
you going to Chris Kleinman for a gentleman's agreement?
42:52
a, if you are beating us,
42:55
don't
42:56
run it up. we
42:58
won't run it up on you. You don't run it
43:00
up on us. You get a nice little
43:02
conference title, in that case, still.
43:04
and we still get our playoff first. Not saying they don't
43:06
try to win. I'm just saying if that situation late
43:08
fourth quarter, Europe, you got the ball
43:11
bleed that clock.
43:16
Do you think Chris Kleinman takes that? God
43:19
no. Oh, no. I don't think some of yikes would
43:21
ever ask. I'm just No. No. God forbid conversation.
43:25
No. No. III think Chris Kleinman would
43:27
run it up. Yeah.
43:28
because I don't think Chris Kleinman really wants to recruit
43:31
against a TCU team
43:33
with a new coach and some recruiting juice
43:36
that they already have. who is now in the
43:38
playoff. Like, you're in a major
43:40
recruiting city. You're you're
43:42
in Manhattan Kansas. It's a little harder
43:44
to get kids to Manhattan Kansas than it is to
43:46
work. So just say an air
43:48
probably would would wanna run it up if you're
43:50
climate.
43:51
So
43:53
though
43:55
One last thing, to bring it back to the whole
43:57
reason while we fired up an instant
43:59
reaction show.
44:03
Are USC fans right to
44:05
be upset without
44:07
Scratch?
44:09
Yeah. That
44:12
team doesn't tackle. The team spends
44:15
too much time trying to strip the ball.
44:17
tackle. The
44:19
second guy in, try to strip the ball.
44:21
First guy, make the tackle.
44:24
It's not that difficult to coach. I
44:27
think so, but they were also really bad
44:29
last year on defense most
44:31
of their trans reporter success stuff
44:34
was done on offense. Oh, no. They
44:36
they need to upgrade on talent. That is
44:38
yeah. That's a hundred percent,
44:40
million percent true. but the
44:42
first guy in tackles. Doesn't
44:44
try to strip the ball. First guy tackles,
44:46
second guy go for ball. Alright. One
44:48
more thing. Did Kayla
44:51
Williams lose the Heisman
44:53
trophy?
44:55
No. Somebody
44:56
else has to win it.
44:59
who Thank you. Right. I mean,
45:01
if if he if he lost it, who steps
45:03
up to win it? And I think if you're
45:05
a voter tonight, assuming
45:07
you watch the game haven't already sent your ballot in
45:09
because apparently it sounds like you can send your ballot in already.
45:11
I Tom,
45:12
you're a voter. Right? Yeah. You can send it
45:14
out on Monday. Monday. Yeah.
45:17
So look, he
45:19
throws for three sixty three and
45:22
three scores
45:24
on one leg.
45:25
Right.
45:26
I don't Like, he certainly would his
45:28
play was not the reason that they
45:30
lost the game. His lack of ability
45:32
to throw for five hundred and five because he
45:34
got hurt which he was kind of on pace
45:37
to do
45:37
was the reason why
45:39
they one of the reasons why Oscar
45:41
and they also don't playoff any defense, which was
45:43
a was a bigger reason. I just I
45:45
don't know who steps up. Like, CJ Stroud
45:47
does not have any more games to
45:49
play. Penn and Hooker, you know, has
45:51
has now missed another game because
45:53
he's done through the year. Max Dugan,
45:56
I don't think has been a national name enough.
45:58
That's the one guy you could maybe look at and
46:00
say he could do it. I don't
46:03
wanna hear the stats and Bennett stuff. It's just
46:05
the numbers he has or He just pressed it.
46:07
No. Well, I mean, well, shock coming
46:09
from you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's interesting
46:11
because when I get my political information,
46:15
they give me a lot of statistics. when
46:18
I get my, you
46:21
know, information for some of these other major
46:23
awards, you
46:24
know, you get a lot of the major award.
46:27
You know? I
46:29
I don't I don't get any statistics
46:32
for the Heisman. I
46:33
don't I don't have to use any
46:35
statistics for the Heismund. I
46:38
said, I'm aware. Jason White.
46:40
I just have to write a name that
46:42
I know Actually, I have to write
46:44
three -- Three names. -- but I have to write three
46:46
names that I know. So,
46:50
yeah, IIII
46:52
think there's a debts and Bennett
46:54
potential here.
46:57
If debts and Bennett plays well tomorrow,
46:59
and Georgia wins. I guarantee you
47:01
he's going to get some votes, particularly in
47:04
the southeastern region of the country. The
47:07
fact that we're talking about Stets and Bennett
47:10
as one of the guys that we're gonna try to pull out of
47:12
a hat here to unsecular Williams
47:14
gives me that much more confidence that Caleb James is
47:16
winning this thing, guys. Yeah. Yes. No Caleb
47:18
James is still good with the eyes, but I'm pretty
47:20
sure. it won't be as much of
47:23
a blowout as it was a couple
47:25
hours ago. But unless
47:27
somebody Yeah.
47:29
That's what was a Was
47:31
that the biggest league for USC? Was that fourteen
47:33
to seven? Seventeen to three. Seventeen to yeah.
47:36
At at seventeen to three, Kayla
47:38
Williams was, like, Marcus
47:40
Marietta level. Right. Like,
47:43
Marietta was one of the I think Marietta
47:45
and Winston high speed trophy winners
47:47
and back to back years were both blowout
47:50
-- Wow. -- winners. Like, some
47:52
of the most lopsided first
47:54
place vote percentage winners in high speed
47:57
trophy history. Like, we
47:59
were kinda dealing with that. until
48:02
we weren't. What's funny is,
48:05
remember last year and everybody was pushing Will Anderson
48:08
as like a legitimate hizeman and then aid in
48:10
the hutch in was a finalist. And
48:12
it's like there's like the idea that they could win
48:14
when there was no chance in hell. Either of them were
48:16
ever gonna win with a Bryce Young there and a CJ
48:19
Stroud there, the way the seasons that they had. of
48:21
all the years that a defensive player
48:23
could have won? If Will Anderson
48:26
had last season, this season, he
48:28
might legitimately win the highs with this year.
48:31
because it would happen tonight.
48:33
And if Alabama had,
48:35
like, beaten LSU?
48:37
But if Will Anderson had the season last
48:40
year that he this year, he they probably would have beaten
48:42
those. Right?
48:43
Betty makes a player too in that game that changes
48:45
it. It was only one point game. Yeah.
48:47
I don't know. And also, like, Ellis,
48:49
you had
48:50
no good
48:51
points. No. You had no touch sounds. I
48:53
have time. That game.
48:57
I love the sport. We're
49:00
re litigating snaps,
49:02
student houses, like, all
49:04
the way down on December third.
49:06
I would say I mean, I got that bottle of maple
49:08
syrup back there. Vote for Chase Brown to
49:10
give him the highest, but he sent me maple syrup.
49:13
Who do you guys seriously think is gonna be in New York then?
49:16
Will it be more than three guys? Yeah.
49:19
Yeah. because I think that there's gonna be so many
49:21
guys getting second and third place votes.
49:23
Yeah. It's gonna be hard to and
49:26
if they only fight three, I
49:28
mean, everybody I I don't know I don't know
49:30
what they'll do, but I think The
49:32
finalist. Doug and Scott had a chance.
49:34
Yeah.
49:34
I think Caleb's a finalist. I
49:37
think Stroud's gonna be a finalist
49:39
still, I think. Yep. Yeah.
49:42
And then Max dug
49:44
in is a finalist. I don't know.
49:46
I I felt like Coram would have been a finalist,
49:48
with the knee injury. I don't know. think
49:50
Hannon Hooker could get a
49:52
little influx of votes for being so strong
49:55
at the beginning of season before he got hurt because
49:57
of what's happened in the last few weeks where guys
49:59
are falling
49:59
off, dug
50:00
Instant
50:04
Stetson.
50:06
Stetson. Yeah. I think Stetson's gonna give, like,
50:08
a bunch of third place folks. Will
50:10
will the hooker be Will the hooker rotors
50:13
be split with the studs and motors?
50:16
Hooker rotors will be split if Drake
50:18
May beats clumpson. Drick
50:20
May might be a finalist. Although, I don't think
50:22
that don't
50:22
think after the way the North Carolina finish the season,
50:24
that's a possibility. But If if Drake
50:26
may beat Klompson,
50:29
True. We could. What
50:31
if Drake may wins the Hizeman?
50:33
That's not Hizeman. I
50:34
know it's not, but I mean, Again,
50:37
whoever has the best game that last week Instant
50:40
five million becomes seven million.
50:43
or as
50:47
Alright. I said I
50:49
I said somebody asked me about the transfer
50:51
portal on on local radio. And
50:54
I said, somebody texted me
50:56
a number, not that they were
50:58
representing an offer, but that they were guessing
51:01
at the market value. And I
51:03
honestly felt
51:05
like North Carolina would just be repulsed
51:07
at the idea of paying somebody that much.
51:10
I gotta say I wonder if that same person
51:12
has been sending me offers for players
51:14
this way. Like,
51:20
I mean, I felt
51:21
like North Carolina was like, how
51:23
much? Go. I
51:27
mean, for football? No.
51:31
Could he shoot from three? Yeah.
51:35
Can he rebound? I mean, I
51:37
don't know. I mean, we're missing
51:39
Brady Manik right now. What is he getting
51:41
out from Omni Arc? What
51:44
do they paint you? What what do they paint you
51:46
music?
51:47
i think I
51:49
mean, not enough apparently.
51:54
or or too much depending
51:56
on your analysis of it. Alright.
51:59
Seven hundred
51:59
k. Would
52:01
you rather pay Gene Chiswick seven hundred
52:03
k for the job he's done, or pay
52:05
Drake May like four or five million to keep him?
52:08
for
52:08
year three of Drake May.
52:10
Drake May?
52:11
Yeah.
52:13
Yeah. I could
52:13
find the high school defensive coordinator to to give
52:15
you similar results to what you had this year. if
52:17
you want to finish by a defensive
52:20
coordinator right now. Yeah. I
52:22
just I just feel like it would offend some
52:24
sensibilities in Chapel Hill think
52:26
that they're gonna pay. That's what that's
52:28
what that's what my thought was.
52:30
I was like, I was like, what?
52:32
We we pay a college
52:35
athlete to participate in
52:37
extracurricular activities.
52:40
Five million
52:43
Are those online course credits
52:45
not enough?
52:48
Unless
52:50
the extracurricular activity happens to be basketball.
52:52
And then Yeah.
52:55
No.
52:55
Then then Jimmy Seafoods. Got
52:57
it. We back at the Brink's truck, baby,
53:00
by the way.
53:03
North Texas ticket? I
53:08
hedged out, but, you know, it
53:11
was
53:11
a good run. but
53:13
Frank Harris is is nasty.
53:15
He's legit. So what so he's talking
53:17
about seventeen Instant in Qs of the
53:19
last two years now? as
53:22
they're on their way out. Right? Yeah. Seventeen
53:24
in one over the last two years. They didn't
53:26
lose this year in Cuba? No. No?
53:29
Right? And they lost and the only game they lost last
53:31
year -- North Texas. -- Texas. It was
53:33
the game they laid down for. They they keep up
53:35
they kept their starters out.
53:36
Wagon.
53:38
Yeah.
53:39
Sounds like a good
53:42
omen for the Bobcats. Omen
53:44
for the Bobcats. Let's
53:47
go lion's Wait. The
53:49
wait locks have started off this week. I don't know.
53:51
I'm I'm kinda scared. Did you did
53:53
you see her Akron Buffalo ended?
53:55
Yeah. Well,
53:58
I mean, I saw how Buffalo
53:59
was just
54:01
sitting on its tail. for
54:04
the first, like, what, two quarters?
54:07
I was Oh, you didn't see the final, like, like, the final
54:09
sequence? The
54:10
final touch sound?
54:11
No. The final, like, the final sequence.
54:15
Alright. So Akron picks
54:17
off Buffalo, runs it back to
54:19
the Buffalo, like, thirty three or
54:22
ish. The very next play,
54:24
the
54:24
running back quarterback fumbled these chains.
54:28
Give me back to Buffalo, Buffalo drives down,
54:30
fourth down, the back end touchdown.
54:32
It was
54:34
infection.
54:37
Yeah. I I at the beginning of the week.
54:40
watching Serbia's Switzerland at the time,
54:42
to be honest. the beginning of
54:44
that game, I thought Buffalo was, like, Like,
54:47
I did they I was wondering, like,
54:49
did they clear it with the players that they wanted
54:51
to play this game get doable? because
54:54
the point that came out, they did not look
54:56
at all interested to be in that game.
54:58
Yeah.
55:03
finesse. Alright.
55:04
So
55:08
we will be back with you. Saturday
55:11
night with all the
55:13
reaction to everything
55:16
that's in the Ohio state.
55:18
Congratulations. You're back in the game.
55:22
Gross ass
55:24
to Los Alabama.
55:27
It might be too. We'll
55:29
see how things go on Saturday. Now
55:33
that I've said, I'm not gonna do the reaction show on
55:35
Tuesdays if Alabama gets Instant playoff. do
55:37
I want Ella, Bama
55:39
to get in the playoff?
55:42
And also, we'll be here
55:44
on Sunday after the playoff gets announced.
55:47
So one way or the other, we'll
55:49
be here. But most of
55:51
all, I do wanna end this on a high note, so congratulations.
55:54
Nicole Whittingham, a man who
55:56
I watched, on
55:58
film, continue
56:01
recruiting call, in the midst
56:03
of fire of a fire alarm.
56:06
There was an actual fire alarm going
56:09
on in a university building
56:12
Cal Whittingham said, no. Fire
56:16
ain't got shit on me.
56:20
and he sat there with his tray,
56:23
and he continued recruiting. And
56:26
those are the kind of stones that when you
56:28
It packed twelve championship. Two
56:31
in a row. Put
56:33
the record.
56:35
Salute to you, Kyle,
56:37
waiting him. Mhmm. Your Utah
56:39
program is the class of the
56:41
packs twelve once again. as
56:43
you take down USC for the second time
56:45
in a season, phenomenal phenomenal
56:49
performance. especially in
56:51
the second half. Even if
56:53
it did come in the midst of a Caleb
56:55
Williams injury,
56:58
So much to get to, so much more
57:00
to unpack here in this conference championship
57:03
weekend, and you can follow.
57:05
him on Twitter at Thom Browne, you can
57:07
follow him on at Bud Elliot three. You can
57:09
follow
57:10
me at chip underscore Patterson. Gentlemen,
57:12
thank you very much. Thank
57:15
you.
57:16
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