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0:00
The bench.
0:08
Previously on Cover Up, the
0:11
pill plot. Keep the clinic
0:13
closed. Keep it closed. You can take
0:15
a pill no one knows you're having an abortion. And
0:17
in this day and age, that's what you need.
0:20
The Federal Drug Administration issued an import
0:22
alert that banned anyone from bringing
0:25
our U-486 into the country for personal
0:27
use. This is something that we need to
0:29
defend women. So we became outside agitators.
0:37
I guess I'll start by asking, how did you first
0:39
meet Larry? I'll never forget
0:42
the first time I saw him. It
0:44
was my mother's birthday, June 24, 1961.
0:52
Joan later was studying in Italy at the time, and
0:54
she took her mom to this remote beach along
0:56
the Amalfi coast. There was almost
0:59
nobody there, and about 5.30
1:02
in the afternoon as we were leaving, we
1:05
literally bumped into Larry. The
1:08
backdrop is so cinematic,
1:10
you can just imagine the scene. Joan,
1:13
this Scottish student, a secluded
1:15
beach, and this mysterious
1:18
American stranger, Larry.
1:22
His
1:22
hair was disheveled. He had
1:24
on an old t-shirt and old
1:27
swimming trunks, and nothing
1:30
terribly great to look at. He
1:32
invited us for a drink, and
1:34
we stayed and chatted, and he was
1:37
the most fascinating guy
1:40
I had ever met.
1:42
Larry is in Italy for work. He's
1:45
a writer, stringing for places like Life
1:47
Magazine and The New Yorker. He's
1:49
in Italy searching for his next
1:52
great story.
1:53
He was staying in a hotel that
1:55
a lot of writers stayed in, and
1:58
they had a common terrace that ran away.
1:59
wrapped all the way around and they all
2:02
shared a bathroom. And
2:04
they shared a lot of other things. And he called
2:07
the group the Lounging and Letching
2:09
Society.
2:11
They were sort of two Larrys.
2:14
In some ways, Larry's total
2:16
old boys club. He grew up rich,
2:18
he kicks it at the Harvard Club and
2:21
summers in the Hamptons. You
2:23
can picture that guy. But
2:26
then Joan tells me about
2:29
this guy. Our telephone
2:32
was tapped. So we had
2:34
to be very careful if anybody called.
2:37
We did not know until
2:40
we had another separate line put
2:42
in. The technician
2:44
said, do you know that your phone is tapped?
2:47
You see, Larry rolls with
2:50
a radical crew. We
2:52
were quite friendly with Betty. That's
2:55
Betty as in women's rights
2:57
legend, Betty Friedan. Larry
3:00
started hanging out with her when he had just
3:02
graduated from Harvard and Friedan
3:05
was still an undergrad at Smith.
3:07
I read the feminine mystique when I was 15. And
3:10
my dad actually bought it for me when
3:13
I turned 15. And he was like, you should read this. Terrific
3:16
for your dad, my gosh. And
3:19
Larry has unpopular
3:21
opinions, dangerous opinions.
3:25
And he's saying these opinions, these
3:27
convictions out loud
3:30
to a lot of people.
3:32
And our guests on this panel
3:35
are Alfred Julian and Lawrence
3:37
Lader, who's author of a book
3:39
about to be published called Abortion.
3:42
In 1966, he
3:44
goes on New York Public Radio. This
3:47
is seven years before
3:49
Roe v. Wade. Abortion is
3:51
still mostly illegal in the state and
3:54
across the country. I
3:57
happen to believe that these abortion
3:59
laws should be... broken right and left as
4:01
at least a million women a year are
4:03
doing. I think that
4:06
the only way we can eliminate them is to go to
4:08
court to break them openly and openly
4:10
over and over again. I don't think
4:12
you meant to imply, Larry, that the way to cope
4:14
with this
4:15
is to encourage people to break the law. I'm
4:18
sure you... They're already breaking it. They've
4:20
been breaking it for 100 years. You cannot ever
4:22
keep anarchy on our program, sorry. I
4:25
don't know whether I'm talking anarchy,
4:27
leftism, rightism. I'm talking common sense.
4:31
Listening to Larry speak, I
4:33
get the sense that he's thought this through
4:35
and he's ready to go to jail for the
4:37
cause or maybe start a
4:40
revolution. If men and women
4:41
have the right to vote, if they have
4:43
the right to live as human beings, they have
4:45
the basic right of deciding
4:48
whether they should have children or not have
4:50
children. This to me is one
4:52
of my basic rights in this country
4:55
and if I don't have it, I think women should
4:57
be out in the streets screaming as they did
4:59
for the vote.
5:00
All right. Well, thank you, Mr. Lader.
5:02
I'm sure that quite a few of them will as a result of your talk.
5:06
Larry's book, Abortion,
5:09
winds up being cited in the Roe v. Wade
5:11
decision eight times.
5:14
And this is what I find so
5:16
bizarre about Larry when I'm listening
5:18
to him. He comes from a rarefied
5:21
world. You can hear it in his voice.
5:24
He could have been the rich, progressive guy
5:26
donating to various causes, sitting
5:29
on boards, getting tickets to charity
5:31
galas, maybe pro bono work.
5:34
But
5:35
that's not his style. Larry
5:37
doesn't dabble in causes. He's
5:40
laser focused on one issue,
5:42
abortion rights. And he pulls
5:45
his wildest, riskiest move
5:47
at the age of 72. Nobody
5:52
expected it. It struck me as
5:55
revolutionary in a sense, a game changer. From
5:58
the get
5:58
go, I have learned never to. to be surprised
6:01
by what he might come up with. When
6:03
he decides to bring RU-486 into the US,
6:07
it's by any means necessary, even
6:10
drug smuggling. But if
6:13
Larry wants to pull that off,
6:15
he's gonna need help, specialized
6:18
help. He's gotta assemble a team.
6:22
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When I started researching
7:22
the abortion pill last year, Larry's
7:25
name kept popping up. In
7:27
old news articles, archival documents,
7:30
court filings. Over and over,
7:32
I kept seeing this name, Larry
7:35
Leder. I've been on the reproductive
7:37
health beat for years. I've made
7:39
a whole show about sperm and egg donors.
7:42
This is my zone, but I had
7:44
never heard of him.
7:46
I was like, Larry Leder, who is
7:48
this guy?
7:50
We've been in this apartment since 1961.
7:54
So I went to visit Joan Leder. Look
7:56
at it. And so here's this typewriter.
8:01
This, I was with him. He bought this in
8:03
Rome and
8:06
he wanted this olivetti.
8:09
They certainly don't make them like this anymore.
8:12
It's funny, he could graduate to a fax
8:14
machine but not a computer.
8:18
Right, right. Joan
8:20
lives in the same Manhattan co-op she
8:22
and Larry shared for 45 years.
8:25
Larry died in 2006 when he was 86 years old. Her
8:29
apartment is spectacular, by the
8:31
way. It's like a pre-war dream.
8:34
Tasteful, homey. There's
8:37
a full-on grand piano overlooking
8:39
this historic church. He was
8:41
not a doctor. He never went to medical
8:44
school. I think when he was at college
8:46
he was so involved in various different
8:48
causes that he
8:51
wasn't such a great student either.
8:54
When Larry gets swept up in a cause,
8:56
it's like he gets tunnel vision.
8:59
And he doesn't have patience for hesitation
9:02
or half steps. That, and
9:05
also he
9:06
didn't have a job.
9:08
So, as you know,
9:10
having a job can take up a
9:12
lot of your time. Larry
9:15
has money. Money that buys
9:17
him time to be a full-time activist.
9:20
Money that allows him to devote himself to
9:22
this issue. And he spends a great
9:24
deal of that time connecting with
9:26
high-profile feminists like his
9:28
old friend, Betty Friedan.
9:31
One night in his living room, he hosts a
9:33
meeting and helps starts the leading
9:35
abortion rights group, NARL. I
9:38
sat
9:38
up there and watched it was
9:40
all down here on the couch. The
9:43
same cover, the
9:45
same everything. This was here too.
9:48
There's a reason why Betty Friedan
9:50
declares Larry the father
9:53
of the abortion rights movement.
9:56
When the Roe v. Wade decision comes down
9:58
in 1973,
11:59
all the way back to the diaphragm. And
12:02
the story of how Sanger brought birth
12:04
control to the U.S. is
12:06
quite a tale,
12:08
one that would prove to be consequential
12:10
in Larry's push to bring the abortion
12:12
pill to the United States.
12:15
It's called the One Package
12:18
Case. Here he is talking
12:20
about it on public radio station WNYC
12:22
in 1966. In 1936,
12:25
this One Package Case completely
12:28
reversed the federal birth
12:30
control law so that really by
12:32
court action, the old birth control
12:34
law fell into discard. It's true
12:36
that New
12:36
York's- The One Package Case, AKA
12:39
Margaret Sanger's plot to give Americans
12:41
the legal right to birth control,
12:44
starts in 1873 with the Comstock Act.
12:50
The Comstock Act prohibits the mailing
12:52
of, quote, obscene, lewd,
12:55
or lascivious materials, which
12:58
in the 1930s includes anything to do with
13:01
contraception.
13:01
And in the 1930s, contraceptives
13:05
are still illegal in the United States.
13:08
Doctors can't prescribe them, and it's a
13:10
crime for Americans to import
13:12
them because of, well, Comstock.
13:15
Sanger tries to change the law for years, but
13:17
nothing's working. So she figures
13:20
if you can't change the law, test
13:22
it.
13:23
Sanger asks a doctor in Japan
13:26
where contraception is legal to
13:28
mail a package of pessiaries. That's
13:31
like a diaphragm
13:32
to her colleague in the U.S. But
13:34
that's just one part of the plot.
13:36
The most important, Sanger makes
13:38
sure the government knows that the contraband
13:41
is heading to the U.S. She wants
13:43
it to be intercepted. And
13:46
it works. Customs agents seize
13:48
the package, and Sanger appeals to
13:50
the federal government to get it back on
13:52
the grounds that contraceptives are medically
13:55
necessary, which would make
13:57
them an exception under Comstock.
14:00
And
14:01
they win. The court rules that
14:03
doctors have a right to prescribe birth
14:05
control. Here's Sanger talking
14:07
about the victory back in the 1930s.
14:11
That's the law of land now recognizes
14:13
birth control legally as a necessary
14:16
part of medical practice. So
14:19
when Larry sees what the government is doing
14:21
with RU 486,
14:23
he knows he has to test the law too.
14:25
And he has an idea about how to do it. He
14:28
visits his longtime lawyer, Marshall
14:31
Beal. I was the voice of reason
14:33
and Larry was the voice of creativity. I won't
14:35
say that I was the grown up in the room because
14:37
Larry was older than me.
14:39
Larry makes his pitch. Like
14:42
many other of Larry's ideas,
14:45
I thought it was totally hair braids, totally
14:47
crazy. And it goes something
14:49
like this. Okay, so
14:52
the goal is to lift that pesky federal
14:54
ban on RU 486. I
14:57
want Americans to have access to it. So
14:59
here's how I'm going to do it. I'm going to find
15:01
a pregnant woman who wants an abortion. She's
15:04
got to be early in her pregnancy. I'm
15:07
going to get this woman a prescription for
15:09
the abortion pill. She and I will
15:11
fly to London with the prescription. We'll get
15:13
the pills. Then we'll smuggle
15:15
the medication back to New York City. All
15:18
alert customs officials ahead of time, of
15:20
course. And fingers crossed,
15:23
customs will confiscate it. Drum
15:26
roll, please. The pregnant
15:28
woman can sue the government to get the abortion
15:31
pills
15:31
back and we can change the law. I
15:35
was very concerned because the plan
15:37
put him and the person
15:39
he was going to be traveling with at risk of getting arrested
15:42
and jailed.
15:44
Marshall's right. To say that
15:46
success wasn't guaranteed is a
15:49
massive understatement. Larry
15:52
runs his plot by a few lawyers and
15:55
they desperately try to warn him
15:57
off. I've seen some of these
15:59
letters. The
16:01
attorneys tell him, quote,
16:03
this is just not the way to get
16:05
this accomplished. And quote,
16:07
there will be a very strong
16:09
drive to bring a criminal prosecution.
16:13
Civil liabilities could wipe out a Rockefeller.
16:16
And quote, I'm almost
16:18
thinking out loud, but I wonder whether
16:21
all possible alternatives have
16:23
been explored
16:24
because this alternative is far too risky.
16:29
But remember, Larry is persuasive.
16:31
He talks with Marshall. And then
16:34
the two of us sat down, and in our discussions,
16:36
he came up with a plan that I thought would
16:38
work.
16:38
Marshall's on board, kinda.
16:42
He's known Larry for a long time. He understands
16:45
him. If the chances of winning
16:47
are slim, Larry's still
16:49
gonna make the shot. As
16:52
a crusader, he assumed
16:54
that the worst would not happen because if
16:56
you think the worst is gonna happen, you
16:59
can't be a crusader. You have to assume that somebody
17:01
out there is gonna say, yes, you're
17:03
right.
17:05
With his lawyer reluctantly on board,
17:08
Larry sets out to get the prescription for RU-486.
17:11
To do that, he needs to find a doctor
17:13
who is willing to break the law.
17:16
The drug has not been tested or approved
17:19
yet in the United States. Are you convinced that it's safe?
17:22
It has been tested and used by
17:24
over 100,000 women in France,
17:27
England, and other countries, and found
17:29
to be very safe, in fact. Dr.
17:32
Louise Tyre was an OB-GYN and the
17:34
former medical director of Planned Parenthood.
17:36
That's her on NPR's Fresh Air back in
17:38
the 90s. She passed away in 2010. Dr.
17:42
Tyre was a big believer in RU-486, and
17:45
she was working hard to overturn
17:46
the Bush administration's ban. When
17:49
Larry hits her up for help, she's down
17:51
with the plan. She agrees to be the
17:53
scheme's doctor. She'll write a
17:55
script and make sure everything goes smoothly and
17:58
safely.
17:59
For the doctor on the team, Larry sets
18:02
off to find the next piece of the puzzle. The
18:04
key to the whole thing.
18:07
A pregnant woman willing to smuggle
18:09
abortion pills into the U.S. illegally
18:10
and be
18:13
caught. He'd
18:15
have to find a needle in a haystack. Someone
18:17
who wanted a medication abortion,
18:20
but also was willing to put herself in
18:22
the center of a national political firestorm.
18:24
It was just very,
18:27
very, very hard. Coming
18:29
up, Larry searches for the Jane
18:32
Roe of the 1990s and
18:34
hits some bumps along the way. Stay
18:37
with us.
18:44
Once that door was closed, he was
18:46
on the phone all the time.
18:49
Larry's working his rolodex hard to
18:51
find a woman willing to sign onto
18:53
his plot. He keeps striking
18:56
out. So Larry realizes
18:58
he can't do this on his own. He
19:01
needs someone with a lot of connections.
19:04
A fixer. Larry has
19:06
just the person in mind. Steve
19:09
Heilig, the director of Public Health
19:11
for the San Francisco Medical Society.
19:15
Steve's also not a doctor. He's
19:17
a public health policy guy. But
19:19
Larry knows that Steve also
19:22
has a deep rolodex.
19:24
I knew a lot of really top-notch clinicians,
19:27
you know, professors, heads of departments
19:29
at local hospitals. These are all people I knew
19:31
through the medical society.
19:33
Like Larry, Steve is frustrated
19:36
by the government's ban on RU 486. You
19:38
know, we've got to break this log jam. This
19:40
pill could sit in limbo here forever.
19:43
Larry flies out to California to make the pitch.
19:46
It struck me as revolutionary
19:48
in a sense, a game changer. To give a woman a choice,
19:51
would you rather take the pills or have a surgical
19:53
abortion?
19:55
Larry lays it all out
19:57
for Steve. For this heist
19:59
to work, they'll need a doctor.
19:59
to find a pregnant woman.
20:01
Larry can't get a prescription for
20:03
the abortion pill for himself,
20:06
but neither can just any pregnant
20:09
woman.
20:10
At the time, the abortion pill
20:12
is only prescribed if a person meets certain
20:15
criteria. They
20:16
need to be under 35 years old, a nonsmoker,
20:19
and have no history of hypertension.
20:23
And they have to be early in
20:25
their pregnancy. It's a little
20:27
different now, but back then, the
20:29
abortion pill was only permitted for use
20:32
through the
20:32
eighth week. But
20:35
the thorniest requirement was specific
20:37
to this scheme. This
20:39
pregnant woman had to be down with being
20:41
the public face of the abortion
20:44
pill,
20:45
at a time when most people kept their abortions
20:47
secret.
20:48
There was no hashtag myabortionstory.
20:52
That wouldn't come for two more decades. So,
20:55
Larry asks Steve, Can we
20:57
find a patient who wanted to do
20:59
this? Steve
21:02
agrees to work his connections under
21:04
one condition. Under no
21:07
circumstances could his employer know
21:09
about this scheme. It has
21:11
to be secret.
21:13
Larry's like, I got you.
21:16
As Steve puts out the word to OBGYNs
21:18
around San Francisco, Larry
21:21
flies back to Manhattan and works the
21:23
phones on his end. His
21:25
address book was full
21:28
of names. Larry locks himself
21:30
in his office and makes calls all day and
21:32
all night. He calls clinics, he reaches out to
21:34
feminist groups on college campuses, he
21:37
meets with doctors and nurses. And
21:39
finally, he gets a couple of bites. Well,
21:42
he had two or three possibilities.
21:45
These possibilities are
21:48
women who meet the medical requirements.
21:50
And they want RU 486. They would
21:52
rather take some pills than undergo surgery,
21:55
if given the option.
21:56
But then, Larry tells them, if
21:59
this don't work, It'll get tons of media
22:01
attention. Your face will be on the evening
22:03
news and on the front page of every newspaper
22:06
across the country. We'll take this all
22:08
the way to the Supreme Court.
22:09
When Larry shares the intricacies of this plan,
22:12
well, they bail. It
22:14
did seem that no woman would put herself
22:17
into that situation.
22:20
One woman signs up and
22:23
changes her mind that same day, afraid
22:25
she'll lose her job when the news gets out. Another
22:27
woman has the same turnaround, afraid
22:30
the headlines could mess up her divorce. Finally,
22:33
Larry gets a call from
22:35
a woman who seems really promising.
22:39
He arranges to meet her in person over
22:41
dinner. The meeting turned
22:43
out to be a soap opera fiasco.
22:47
According to Larry's book, A Private
22:50
Matter, R.U. 486, when
22:52
she arrives at the restaurant, she walks
22:55
into the joint with an older man. They
22:58
glide over to Larry's table and sit.
23:01
Larry rehashes the plan for them. We'll fly to London,
23:04
we'll get the pills, return
23:06
to New York and meet the press. We'll tell the
23:08
government to come and get us, and we'll fight this in the
23:10
courts. After
23:13
hearing all of this, the older man grows
23:16
distressed. He's like, you
23:18
want to do what? Larry
23:21
is pretty sure he knows what's happening here. The
23:23
older guy is the pregnant woman's boss.
23:26
They've been having an affair. He
23:28
doesn't want any part of something so public.
23:31
But I
23:31
explained this all to you. No,
23:34
darling, impossible. My
23:36
wife is a jealous Italian. You
23:39
appear at a press conference, and my
23:41
wife, the office, everyone will know about
23:43
us. All I've worked for will be
23:46
swept away in one big wave.
23:48
The woman insists their affair
23:50
would be kept secret. I am
23:52
determined to go through with it. You
23:54
do this, and I don't talk to you. You
23:57
try to stop me, and I won't
23:59
talk to you. to you. They
24:02
leave the restaurant and that was
24:05
the end of that. A
24:08
year goes by and Larry still
24:10
isn't found as Jane Roe. I think he had
24:13
almost given up. But
24:15
then Larry gets a phone call.
24:18
This is a
24:18
big choice to make and you got to make it quick. It's
24:21
his fixer. He's found
24:24
the one.
24:27
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Steve, Larry's fixer, is
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over in San Francisco working the phones
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and he's kind of in the same boat as Larry.
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He's gotten a few nibbles.
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There were at least five
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I think who were
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committed but then said I just can't. I
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just can't because my parents
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will be so ashamed because everyone
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I work with will find out because
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my community will disown me. Everyone
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had a reason why. They just
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couldn't. They could not
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find that courageous person
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because they were looking into mainstream
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muck
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and that to find that person they
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had to come to the most radical left
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coast, west coast.
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still doing
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her thing in Oakland running Women's Choice Clinic
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when Steve reaches out to her colleague for
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help, a guy named Dr. Bud Gore.
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He's like, we need to break the band.
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We need this. And I'm like, well, what do you really
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need? And it's like, we need a pregnant
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woman who's willing to go to England and
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stand up and do this. And I'm like, oh,
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OK, well, let's see what we can do. And
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the folks at Women's Choice Clinic
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get it, pretty much right out
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of the gate. They find the one.
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So she was pregnant. She was going to have an abortion. This
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woman is not yet six weeks pregnant.
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She's 29 years old.
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And she fits the medical requirements.
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So Lindsay's staff ask her, hey,
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you want to do a medication-induced abortion?
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Go fight the Supreme Court. What do you think? This
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is what's happening. And she was like, oh,
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OK, I can do that. Let's do it.
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This badass' name is Leona.
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Do you remember her, the punk from the flight? Leona
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was a person some of my staff knew
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personally.
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Lindsay isn't surprised that
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Leona is the one who finally fits the bill.
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She's from the Bay Area, the place
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that gave birth to the Free Speech Movement
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and the Black Panthers. She was an
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activist. She'd been involved in
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the movement. And when anti-abortion
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activists came to San Francisco to
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blockade a clinic a few years before,
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Leona was right in the middle of that. She
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was a clinic defender. She'd been outside
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protecting women. She is
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primed for this
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mission. I think that when you
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are an activist and you believe that
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your life is about change, that you
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rise to the occasion. Leona
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is ready to break the law. She's ready
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to put her private medical decisions on display
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for the whole world to see. She'd
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do all that and more if it brings the
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abortion pill to the US. And
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I really viewed her as a soldier, that
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she was doing for American women
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what soldiers do all day.
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all the time, putting your body on the line.
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She's just about six
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weeks pregnant. And at that time,
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the abortion pill could only be used
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through the end of the eighth week.
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That means they have less than two weeks to
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enact the whole plot. They need to fly
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to London, get caught at JFK, and
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push their case through the courts. They
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had to move. We gotta get your tickets,
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we gotta get your passport. I mean, it really
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was a rush job. On June
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28th, 1992, Leona flies across the country to
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meet Larry at his Fifth Avenue apartment.
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You know, there's some people who walk in
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and they're just immediately at home. She
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was just very
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comfortable in her skin. She
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was 29, freewheeling, but
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upright, physically upright,
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mentally upright. She was
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just carrying a small bag. It might even
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have been an APSAC type of bag.
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And she said she only had two pairs of jeans.
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Dr. Louise Tyre, the
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doctor who writes the script for Leona,
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is at Larry's apartment too.
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She flew in from her home in Nevada as soon
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as she heard they'd found their Jane Roe.
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In the living room, Larry and Dr.
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Tyre ask Leona, are you ready
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to do this? I'm sure that
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there must have been a degree of nervousness
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there, but she was confident
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and she was very committed to women's
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rights.
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The next day, June 29th, 1992, Leona
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and Larry are booked on a red eye. They
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pack their bags and call a cab. What'd
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you say to her when she was leaving? Oh,
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just all the best, dear. They
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have the prescription from Dr. Louise
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Tyre in hand. If everything
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goes to plan, that prescription
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is Leona's ticket to the abortion she
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wants and a future
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in which it's available to...
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everyone across the country. But
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as Leona boards the red-eye to London late
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that night with Larry, her
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72-year-old fancy-pants accomplice,
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it's hard to shake the lawyer's warning
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that this wild scheme might not be
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the way to get this accomplished.
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She had not been prepared in advance
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for what she would be facing. I
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said I had some medication, and
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they wanted to look at it, and I gave it
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to them.
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And the customs agents, they realized
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what had happened here, and they were not happy. They'd
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been tricked.
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Next time, on Cover Up, the pill
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plot, the heist gets underway, and
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Leona goes to battle once again. I'm
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angry, I'm stressed out.
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And they were out there chasing her down. We
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started to think, hey, maybe we have
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a shot here at winning this. I
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called up Harley and I said, Harley, I need you to come to New
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York City immediately.
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Cover Up, the pill plot,
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is produced by Sony Music Entertainment. The
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show is hosted by me, TJ Raphael. Our story
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editor is Maureen McMurray. Our
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senior producer is Quina Kim. Our
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producer is Casey Georgie. Our
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associate producer is Kyra Asi-Babe Bansu, along with Gabriela
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Santana. Our
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executive producer is Lizzie Jacobs. Sassonia
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Davenport and Tamika Balance Kalosny are our production
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managers. Theme music and mixing
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for this show was done by Joanna Catcher
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of Nice Manners. Additional music
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comes from APM. Our
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fact-checker is Natsumi Ajisaka. Special
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thanks to Krista Ripple, Erica Gaida, Serena Chow,
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Rachel Trotter, Catherine St. Louis, Tom
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Koenig, Steve Ackerman, Ryan
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Shepherd, and Christopher Brown.
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of Larry Lader's WNYC appearance came
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Archive. Special thanks to them. and
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