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Monday edition because Tyson's in the news today.

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We'll explain, we're gonna get to it. We

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got Kevin Durant theories. We're

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Pacers, Timberwolf sort of weekend.

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Jose Ramirez, Virgil

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Ortiz Junior sort of weekend. I love a

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great fight, Rich, which makes me even more excited

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for this week because we got some great basketball

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and it all leads to sinkle to my own weekend.

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Canelo Mungia, Bro, let's go

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to that left there you go with here, Let's go. Yeah.

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I just want to start the show. We are going to talk

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about Iron Mike, Iron, Mike Diaphon.

1:45

We're gonna talk, like you said, all about the draft

1:48

and NBA playoffs and KD all

1:50

the stuff. But but and

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I know you like a big butt. There's a big butt.

1:56

I want to just say, of

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all the Caleb Williams banter,

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there's no reason to duck. I'm here.

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He's all about I'm bringing

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some wins. I'm bringing my vibes

2:10

to Chicago. I think of

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all the dumbest things people point out,

2:15

why are people worried about this guy's fingernails, like

2:19

if he paints a couple of his fingernails,

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Like, I find it so odd in the world

2:24

we live in today. It's a generational thing, for sure.

2:26

But what I'm saying, where in a world

2:28

where there's no rules, everything knows people

2:30

express themselves. For Crasher does it

2:32

too, but Kreischer also

2:35

shows full outline and hispidos on Instagram

2:37

and he often wears no shirt. My point is,

2:40

watch an NBA team entering

2:42

an arena and the wardrobes they choose,

2:44

and you're gonna worry about Caleb Williams

2:46

fingernail.

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Dude.

2:47

I just came back from a rock festival in Vegas

2:49

over the weekend. I was at Sick New World for Alice

2:52

and Chain, Slip Knot, System

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of a Down, That's all Divorced Dad rock right

2:57

there. Oh yeah, lots of butt rock you said, I

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like butts, but rock at its finest.

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And a lot of young bands too, Spirit Boxes

3:04

of the World. But a

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lot of these young dudes black

3:10

white, everybody had

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their fingernails painted. It's a

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again generational thing, and

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for older guys, I think they're just covering up their rotted

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toenails. But it's possible.

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It's generational, man, It's like, hey, why do young

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people do this? It's like, I don't know, why did you wear

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stupid Kavaicci's when you were young? It's

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just generational. Why did you wear bell bottoms? Dead

3:32

right? You know? I wore ear rings

3:34

all the time. Sometimes I still do.

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But again, it was just part of what we did back then.

3:39

And trends come and go, and

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that's really all it is. Yeah, no, for

3:44

sure, Just I find it funny of all the narratives

3:46

that have come out of the last week, the

3:48

drafts and all the moves and everything going on

3:50

in the world of sports, I'm still seeing random

3:52

clips on social media about you

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know, Caleb Williams and the fed was this fingernails.

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It's funny you say that, though, because if you follow

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to talk trends and dance moves

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like I do, you are you

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are a very good teenage girl. When it comes to that. It

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is a very commonly posted question

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amongst older generations, like what's

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with this? And the response always

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is why do you care

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so much? Honestly? Is it bothering

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you? Is it hurting anybody, and

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it's not for me. I wouldn't do it,

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but I also don't care that much.

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So there're somewhere in the middle.

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There's a little bit that performs. He could

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he could paint his whole

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body. He could paint his face like the ultimate warrior

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for a like exactly exactly what's how

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I was, Sam. So he's actually said this on record.

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The reason he does it is because his mother, who

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he says is his best friend, was like a beautician,

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a nail technicians. I've read that

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growing up, and so it's sort of an image to her, and

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he's like, no one else does it, it's my thing.

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So I find it so funny of all the things

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we talk about in twenty twenty

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four, to call Caleb

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Williams soft because he paints his

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fingernails. To me, it is like the dumbest of

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all dumb observations. Look, people

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are gonna make their observations. We make observations about

5:05

people's hair every week. But for some

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reason, that is a story where I was

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Sam. I'm glad you reminded me. That was the answer

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and response to a lot of criticism.

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But again, it's generational. So many older

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dudes have a problem with kids

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today. Now that's your French frills gone right,

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you know, or the machine gun Kelly's of the world

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who paint their nails. Meanwhile, they forgot

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what d Snyder looked like in the early

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eighties. He was my favorite drag queen of the eighties.

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Man. I used to love Twist's sister. I

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want a rock so thank

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you guys. We're actually going to get to the

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bullying again of young players like him.

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Is it bullying? I say bullying loosely, just

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to be salacious, to

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get your attention, because right now,

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to get this day going, gotta talk

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about this Mike Tyson news right, like

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I said, some good fights over the weekend. Of course, we're gonna

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get to the NBA and everything else and

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the draft information. Bye.

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Mike Tyson has

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said once again, much

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like a lot of great fighters, Rocky

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Balboa, perhaps you heard of them, no

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women, no weed leading

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up to the big fight July twentieth with

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Jake Paul. But the bigger update

6:21

for a lot of other people is that it's

6:23

an actual sanctioned fight now as of

6:25

today, meaning it counts on their record.

6:27

Professional boxing is acknowledging it as

6:29

a real fight. It's a legit

6:32

fight. That's

6:34

a for speculation. People still want to say there's

6:36

a fix, or it's all about the money, or its

6:39

sanctioned. It's a sanctioned fight and fight.

6:41

So so part of that is there is an

6:43

official winner. When it's an exhibition, there's

6:45

no official

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in the in the books winner a La Tyson,

6:51

Roy Jones Junior. But this is a sanctioned

6:53

pro fight as of now. That's

6:55

the big important update. But the other

6:57

side question is when you

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say no weed and Mike

7:02

Tyson's known for his mic bites and

7:04

his tython ranch and

7:07

hot boxing, and you

7:09

know he dabbles in that world, and you say

7:12

no women dabbles. Would you

7:14

say that is clear advantage? Do

7:16

you think that doesn't matter? Especially when

7:18

you think about what Ryan Garcia

7:20

just pulled off. You know he was

7:22

partying, said he drank almost every

7:25

night leading up to the event at

7:27

the way in him and his

7:29

dad both admitted it was apple

7:31

cider and water

7:34

or something like that. I mean, clicking, NATed appening.

7:37

Some people are saying Garcia pulled the fast one on

7:39

everyone on Vegas, on everything

7:42

right, But when you see what he was capable

7:44

of doing, you know, does it really matter

7:46

that much if you're that talented,

7:48

if you're that prepared. You

7:50

know, it's like in life, if you're that prepared

7:53

and you're that responsible, you sort of get

7:55

a little more leeway. Even as a dad,

7:57

I give my daughter more leeway, you know why, because she's

7:59

responsible, she does well in school and everything else.

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If Tyson's disciplined and dedicated

8:04

and prepared, doesn't

8:06

matter that much if he has a drink, if he has a joint

8:09

here and there, he's saying he's not doing it either way.

8:11

But I just wonder that, like Danny g if

8:13

I told you from now until July

8:15

twenty first, no

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effect the weed Mike Tyson

8:20

style, would that affect

8:22

you? Do you think that would affect most guys herman

8:25

like it's not hurting to play

8:27

it disciplined, right? I think it would put you

8:30

on edge for sure. And do we want that

8:32

to come out of mic? Is that the point is the point

8:34

to is a point to unearth

8:38

the buried angry Mike Tyson? And oh,

8:40

we said that when we speculated about two weeks

8:42

ago, because the announcement then was he's

8:44

gonna stop smoking, right, it

8:46

was smoke was a cigarettes. Does he smoked cigarettes?

8:49

D Just wait, he's just this guy's high every

8:51

day because yeah, this

8:53

will be said specifically so

8:55

that he could be aggravated and agitated

8:57

and take it out on his opponent.

8:59

Yeah, rumor has been out there for a few weeks

9:01

and he officially made it known.

9:04

No weed, no women. But now it's no women.

9:06

Yeah, no women is the update. So

9:08

if you take a guy like Mike who has spent

9:10

the better part of a decade becoming

9:12

this calm, chill version of himself, I'm

9:14

not that guy anymore. Like he loves to talk

9:16

about how he's not that guy anymore. He's

9:19

philosophical. This guy smokes

9:21

and talks like Neil de Grasse Tyson about the

9:24

universe and the world and life. And

9:27

you take Mike Tyson back to the old school Mike,

9:30

where he's pent up, angry, irritated.

9:35

You know, this is a real crazy

9:37

strow release. This is a crazy stretch

9:39

hold on, hear me out though. That's his medicine

9:41

in a lot of ways, right, that calms

9:44

him down and makes him a better person. He said that

9:46

himself like weed, And when he licked

9:48

the toads back, he licked

9:50

the toad. Remember we still changed his

9:52

life, Colvin.

9:53

Know, we saw it for ourselves when we were broadcasting

9:55

live in Vegas at the Blue Iire Studios.

9:58

He was there doing the hot box and podcast

10:00

before we went on. When you yeah, he

10:03

got he was frustrated and they had to get him

10:05

out of there. He was really angry. Why remember

10:07

he found out he couldn't smoke weed inside the new

10:10

studio.

10:10

Yeah. So when you take a few hours,

10:12

yeah, for a few hours, I say,

10:14

medicine in quotes, air quotes is

10:17

right. I mean, when you take people off their medicine,

10:19

things could happen. Air quotes is not necessary

10:21

over the weekend. This is like a silly side

10:24

story that's in my Votto algorithm.

10:26

I have a Voto algorithm. What

10:29

was Selena's brother's name? AB? That

10:33

was their dude? Anything for you Selena's

10:35

I think you're right. What's his name? A? Yeah,

10:37

I'm pretty sure you're right. He

10:39

was doing a show

10:43

at his hometown in San Antonio and

10:46

they started booing them right, But

10:49

then he went off on the crowd like

10:51

you guys are whack. I hate you

10:53

guys if you anyway right, And

10:55

it became this viral Voto story

10:58

of like Yo Man, he lost it on stage because

11:00

he was attacking the crowd. He

11:02

then had to go to social media and apologize

11:05

because he said he got a cancer scare

11:08

and because of the testing and everything he was doing,

11:11

he had to be off his medication and

11:14

all his bipolar sort of tendency

11:16

started to come out and he had just

11:18

been off for a few days or whatever, so he

11:20

apologized. So, hey, you

11:22

take Mike Tyson off the weed, you never know

11:24

what angry side of him might come out, and

11:26

he'll take that out on Jake Paul And that's what we

11:29

want to see as fans. The point in the

11:31

stretch and the side story was, or the analogy

11:33

was, maybe that's what people need to get

11:35

into that zone. It's not as zone

11:37

they want to be in. But if you're going to be in the ring,

11:40

you're going to be fighting somebody, it might work

11:42

to your benefit in that moment.

11:43

We're not just talking a little bit of weed either.

11:46

A few years ago, on that same podcast

11:48

of his, he admitted he burns through

11:50

forty thousand dollars a month.

11:52

Dude, that's a lot. I mean, this

11:55

is not a guy that takes an edible to

11:57

get some rest once a while or so

12:00

on a Friday night, you know, passes it to the left.

12:02

This is the guy that's high and subdued

12:04

most of the time on the New Mike tythan

12:07

that guy. Combined, combined

12:09

with no sexual release, we

12:12

might see a very

12:14

frustrated, different, angry,

12:17

agitated. Yeah, yeah,

12:19

that might be the good thing. So again,

12:21

what are your thoughts on that? Again, the update

12:24

is a SUS sanctioned pro fight. Now,

12:26

no weed, no women, and

12:31

are we going to get victory as a result? Do you think

12:33

it doesn't matter as much after you saw what

12:35

Garcia pulled off? What

12:38

if I told you that? I think

12:41

here's my thoughts. I want to make it clear. I

12:44

don't think there's any harm

12:47

in staying disciplined

12:50

and prepared. Right, So, you could

12:52

be talented, but

12:54

if you're talented and disciplined, more power

12:57

to you. I think that's only going to add to your

13:00

results. So I don't think there's any

13:02

harm in being

13:05

disciplined to this level. Is

13:07

it necessary? Like I said, Ryan Garcia

13:09

is going to prove that otherwise? Yeah, I mean that's my point. My

13:12

point is if you told me, hey,

13:14

Rich, take any vices,

13:17

one might have no women

13:19

are gambling or drinking or drugging.

13:22

Don't do that, you know, for the next three

13:24

months because you're preparing for something big at

13:26

work, for whatever you do at work. Do

13:29

you really think those

13:32

type of adjustments would make you a better,

13:34

more prepared man or is it just irritating him

13:36

for no reason? Yeah? Well, put yourself in that situation.

13:39

Right, Let's say, all right, it's

13:41

not even May yet, this fight's in July.

13:43

And that's what I'm saying, this is not likely twenty

13:46

if so, if we said

13:48

to you the average fellow who just has to get

13:50

ready for I don't know, a presentation at

13:52

work or a sales meeting or anything.

13:56

Hey man, you can't have any familiar

13:58

relations, sex relations,

14:01

a drink, whatever

14:03

it is that you do. Like Rich said as your vice, you

14:05

can't do any of that. You can't have a day off until

14:09

that date July twentieth. How aggravating

14:11

irritated would you be? You'd be on

14:13

edge, dude. Right, So

14:16

it's only going to add to this guy's inner monster.

14:19

And I'm excited for it now that it is a sanctioned

14:21

pro fight. I don't think Tyson's

14:24

one that cares much about legacy

14:26

here, but I think it matters that much

14:28

more Like you don't want to lose to Jake Paul on

14:30

your professional record, So I think

14:32

that's awesome. I think advantage Tyson the

14:35

public sentiment, we can move on.

14:37

But the public sentiment Cavino has

14:39

changed. Well, you

14:41

mean the Vegas odds, right, Vegas odds?

14:43

What does Vegas know again when they were just duped

14:46

by Garcia. I hate to keep bringing

14:48

him up into this, but Vegas

14:50

had him as a major underdog because he was trolling

14:52

everybody. Mike Tyson

14:55

rope a doped Vegas Jake Paul.

14:58

According to The New York Post yesterday, vegacy

15:02

is a massive betting line movement,

15:06

as Tyson's sparring, videos and

15:08

personal decisions are

15:10

made public so rich people watch

15:12

you have edibles for a week. You'd be hard to deal

15:14

with. Imagine Tyson giving up weed for

15:17

two months. Let's see, the betting public is all

15:19

in on Mike Tyson. The line is only

15:21

moving in one direction, and that's but that

15:23

could be a bunch of thirty forty fifty

15:26

year old guys like us betting on Mike Tyson.

15:28

Is it's our childhood? Hey? Or

15:30

have you seen rich when he doesn't have coffee,

15:32

He's like a little baby. Be honestly,

15:36

if I, if I would we

15:39

when Riches have a coffee, you would act you

15:41

would think his world was ending. I got a raging

15:44

headache. Oh he's like a grumpy,

15:46

like angry Mickey mouse. Oh,

15:48

get out of my way. I'm not listening. I

15:50

want to make it clear, I'm not that. So can you imagine Mike Tyson

15:52

without his weed. I'm not that is great. I'm

15:54

not that ahol. That's like, don't poke to me and to him

15:57

my coffee. No, I'm not that guy. I'm saying

15:59

I personally will feel I

16:01

got a headache, and I just I'm all fired. You

16:03

feel kind of under the weather. Yeah, because

16:06

in the morning, I'm like, I need something to get me rolling.

16:08

I'n't had my coffee. And then at night. You

16:11

know, if you if you if your guy that takes

16:13

a little edible or has a little cocktail, little

16:15

old fashioned or something, you might not be able

16:18

to take it a good night's sleep. Mike

16:20

Tyson, for the next three months is going to

16:22

be disciplined the way

16:24

he was ready

16:26

to explode on Jake Paul's

16:29

face. So Mike Tyson that punched at Helms

16:31

in the face and uh, you know the hangover

16:33

that angry Mike Tyson. Angry Tyson will

16:36

mess with me. That angry

16:38

sort of snarling could snap in any moment,

16:41

Mike Tyson, and I hope that Tyson

16:43

doesn't show up when we do a very special Monday

16:45

edition of Tyson Trivia giving away

16:47

prizes to get the week going. I guess it has

16:49

told be a fun week sink go to my weekend coming

16:52

up and Panelo Mungia

16:54

this weekend. Speaking of fights, Spotty should light

16:56

up a joint right in front of him.

16:57

See what he does?

16:58

See what he does? Yeah, By the way, Tyson,

17:02

according to Las Vegas and

17:04

some of the sports books, Tyson

17:06

is far and away the better's

17:08

favorite more than any other fight in this year,

17:10

this year possible, dude, he gets You know what it is.

17:12

It's a bunch of people that are like us,

17:14

forty year old dudes that are like Mike Tythan's my childhood

17:17

I played punch out in my childhood

17:19

bedroom. It's Mike Tyson. There's no way

17:21

he could lose to an influencer. And

17:24

the sentiment is, oh, he's an underdog too,

17:26

so I could double my money to drop that

17:28

narrative. By the way, that Jake Paul is an

17:30

influencer, that's garbage. That

17:32

dude's been boxing for years now at

17:35

a steady pace, so he's

17:37

not an influencer anymore. I want to hear this, want to hear

17:39

how much he was an influence. I'll wrap with this and

17:41

then we'll talk about Kevin Durant and NBA

17:44

and NFL Draft, all the

17:46

stuff on your mind. Mike

17:48

Tyson from the time this boxing

17:51

line opened, do you know it is now

17:53

dropped. As of this

17:55

past Friday, a couple of days ago, Tyson

17:59

is a near even odds

18:03

in the fight. He is plus one zero five.

18:06

Jake Paul is minus one thirty.

18:08

This started out as Jake Paul minus

18:10

three hundred minus four hundred, and Mike Tyson

18:13

was a significant three to one underdog,

18:15

and now, according to Las Vegas

18:19

even money with but to Douglas with forty

18:21

two to one eighty two to

18:23

one money. How do you explain that big swing?

18:25

Is everyone just delusionally thinking this, no way

18:27

Mike Tyson loses. I

18:29

think there's a great chance that he could lose, only because

18:32

he's fighting strength and youth and well

18:35

again father times on defeat. As you said,

18:38

Mike Tyson's thirty second videos might be impressive,

18:40

but those are for thirty seconds against a sparring

18:42

partner. What do we all want to see? Obviously

18:44

Mike Tyson winning, But I

18:47

think it's going to be a much closer fight than anyone

18:50

realizes. Jake Paul is a big, strong

18:52

kid, and he's a boxer. He's not an

18:54

influencer. So anyway, that's the update,

18:57

professional sanctioned fight, no

19:01

women only victories

19:03

for Mike Tyson at least three hopes. So it sounds

19:05

like a boring three months. Yeah, I know, right,

19:07

So it sounds like three months. I don't want any part of it.

19:09

And you know what too, if you're gonna make that sacrifice

19:12

too, you want to make it count, you better win

19:14

man. So yeah, exactly, So that's

19:16

added pressure to what did I do all this

19:19

for? If I'm not going to annihilate

19:21

this guy in the ring, which was probably exactly

19:24

another reason why the line has moved so much, because

19:26

people like, if Tyson's really going to take the serious,

19:28

if he's really gonna take the serious. Yeah,

19:30

So that's putting the pressure on him

19:33

to show up July twentieth

19:35

against Jake Paul. So props happy

19:37

to hear it. Like I said, discipline and dedication

19:40

is never going to hurt the situation. So

19:42

props to Mike Tyson for taking it serious at

19:44

the ripe age of fifty seven. So coming

19:47

up, we are going to talk about losers in the

19:49

NFL draft, which I think is the most ridiculous

19:51

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19:54

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19:56

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19:59

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Hey, by the way, I'm gonna throw a shout out

22:16

to our old colleague and pale Charlie

22:19

Arnold. I don't know if you saw over the weekend

22:22

a mutual friend Joe, a Martinez

22:25

ring announcer, felt

22:27

a little sick, so he wasn't able to announce

22:30

the UFC fights. And they're

22:32

like, well, what are we gonna do? And

22:34

Charlie Arnold does a lot of broadcasting

22:37

and backstage interviews and things like that for UFC.

22:39

Yeah, she's on out Kick and all this. She does a lot.

22:41

They formerly wwfww

22:44

hey would you do it? And

22:46

her instant or immediate

22:48

reaction was like, no, I've never done that ever.

22:51

But she has, and we know from experience

22:54

because we worked with her. She has

22:56

a set of huevos and she said, you know what,

22:58

Yeah, I'll do it, and she became the first ever

23:01

woman announcer for the UFC

23:03

and the Octagon saw that so very

23:05

very cool and as girl,

23:08

Dad's rich, you and I I think

23:10

that's cool that she's a badass and doing badass

23:12

things and she agreed owned it. And

23:14

I hope our pal Joey Martinez is feeling

23:17

better. So anyway, I'm Cavino, that

23:19

is rich. Hope you enjoyed all the fights UFC

23:21

and boxing this weekend. Some great fights

23:24

coming up, like I mentioned Canelo

23:27

this weekend and Tyson a sanctioned

23:29

fight in July. But there's

23:31

lots of great NBA. That being said, hope

23:33

you had a Nicks, Clippers, Pacers, Tea Wolves

23:35

who not feel sort of weekend? Not a

23:38

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23:40

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24:01

we talk about Durant, that

24:03

Charlie Arnold story was actually pretty

24:05

cool because that's how you get opportunities. There's

24:08

a part of everybody that's like, I don't

24:10

know, but that's when you got to step

24:12

up and just deliver in the moment.

24:15

The first time I was ever on air, it

24:17

was sort of probably an emergency situation,

24:19

like hey, can you do this? And I'm like, uh,

24:22

yeah, I didn't know what I was doing.

24:25

But you figure it out. You figure

24:27

it out. What's it doesn't

24:30

the story Someone asked you if you knew

24:32

how to run the board first time you had to

24:34

run the board. I had an idea, but I

24:36

didn't really know how. It wasn't the story like

24:38

you were at some rock

24:41

concert party and you you had had a bunch of

24:43

drinks and you said,

24:45

all the lights on the board looked like no that

24:48

I had that experience, but not my first time. All

24:52

the lights on the board looked like, oh, you're

24:54

telling a different story. All right. This ties

24:56

into Mike Tyson before we get into Kevin Durant.

24:59

So way back in the day early

25:01

days of radio, the late nineteen hundred. It's

25:03

k Rock, New York. Right. Of

25:06

course I'm a young dude, so I had to work the

25:08

like Christmas night or something like that,

25:11

right, Christmas night or New Year's

25:13

Eve. It was one of those. No, it was Christmas night, and

25:16

it was apparently tradition where one of the

25:18

old school engineers that worked there would

25:21

smoke out the one person that had to be

25:24

there on that night. Oh so you were

25:26

there and he's like, he's like an

25:28

older guy. So I'm like, he's like, I have

25:30

to be respectful to this dude. He's like, listen, this

25:33

is tradition. And I'm like, really, dude,

25:36

I sat. I couldn't.

25:38

I sat there at the concert. In no way someone

25:40

could do that. In twenty twenty four, I

25:43

sat there at the console and those boards were giant

25:45

and old school back then, and all I saw was

25:48

lights blinking and my heart was pentally. I was like,

25:50

oh, this is a nightmare. That

25:52

wasn't my first time ever doing it, but it wasn't

25:54

that far into my career either. But the

25:56

point here is sometimes in

25:58

life, even though oh you feel nervous

26:01

about it or reluctant or hesitant or any

26:03

of those things, you just got to step up and do it the

26:06

end. Is that just a great lesson

26:08

also on life, no matter what you do for a living,

26:11

if if you feel like you're

26:13

a capable man or woman, if you feel

26:15

like I know, I'm good

26:18

at getting the job done, I'll figure it out. When

26:21

someone goes, hey, you know how to do this, I think a

26:23

lame answer is like no, hookh exactly

26:25

like, how are you gonna get opportunity if you have ever done

26:27

it? But I'll figure it out. We're just lying

26:29

so you can at the opportunity. Dude, in a worst

26:31

case scenario, ask questions as you go, Hey, I was

26:33

Sam if they were like, iwa COVI

26:36

you do know? And Rich both got stuck in traffic. There was an accident

26:38

on the one on one. Can you be on

26:40

the can you host the show? What is your answer?

26:44

Well, the way if I say no, I'm gonna look

26:46

like a huge lame.

26:47

Mod That's the reminder here,

26:50

Charlie Arnold, have you ever announced

26:52

a professional UFC

26:55

match? No? Nope? Can you do it?

26:58

Yeah? Bamn? And

27:00

then it makes national news.

27:02

She's the first woman ever. That's awesome

27:04

and actually Rich My first

27:07

interview was one of those moments.

27:10

Booker in New York, one of the hosts,

27:12

right, isn't he was running late? He's part of iHeart

27:14

lay It was running late or sick

27:17

or something to get an interview with Collective

27:19

Soul, And the boss is like, can

27:21

you do it? And I'm like me

27:24

collect my thoughts at the time, you know, And I

27:26

was like, and you're probably thinking that Collective Soul who

27:28

cares at the time, like I hadn't done

27:31

that before with any like real rock band,

27:33

And I'm like good bye. Yeah,

27:37

so like you just gotta do it. Yeah, if

27:39

there is a lesson time to step up,

27:41

that's never when given an opportunity,

27:43

professionally, personally, anything, never

27:46

have the lay mass answer of like I don't think I could

27:48

do it? Yeah, And looks that's

27:51

how that's what losers are cut from that cloth.

27:53

Yeah.

27:53

And if she hadn't done it and she let

27:55

fear get in the way, she wouldn't have been

27:57

the first and she wouldn't have had all this press over the week.

28:00

And it was a proud moment. You might get

28:02

mom spaghetti all over your clothes too. I

28:05

was a kid in radio Stockton, California.

28:07

Our morning show was booked

28:10

to go on stage at the

28:12

Oakland A's game and introduce

28:14

the fireworks, and our morning

28:16

guy was sick, couldn't do it. So the PD

28:18

says, Danny, you're doing nights. You're going

28:21

out there. And I went

28:23

into the bathroom and I hurled. I was so nervous

28:25

because to walk out and see all those people

28:28

at the at MLB Stadium.

28:30

I was a kid, I know the feeling. Man.

28:33

It was an episode of How I Met Your Mother, one of my favorite

28:35

old school sitcoms, where Robin,

28:37

you know, one of the main characters, gets her chance

28:40

because Sandy whatever the creepy

28:42

news guy was, was off like grabbing some ass

28:44

during the New Year's count. Then I'm like, you're on. Like

28:47

you're on, is all you need. We've all

28:49

been, We've all came up the same

28:52

rank as Charlie Arnold, right

28:54

like she was on our TV show on ESPN

28:56

again you said, out kick. She's had a great

28:58

career in broadcasting, wrestler, UFC, all

29:00

this stuff. But if Dana

29:03

White, whoever was there that night, came up to you,

29:05

you think you'd be able to do it. Of course, Yeah,

29:08

no doubt you do it. Howard Finkel

29:10

that's what you would do coming down me. This

29:13

match is schedule for one fall

29:15

with a sixty minute time limit.

29:18

That's it. Rich with some parts unknown

29:20

Dan Bayer, who's got an update, Dan,

29:24

I would feel like dy G felt though, I

29:26

really would, There's no question about it. Even

29:28

though we're on national radio every day. There's

29:31

a part of me that would be like, oh, this

29:33

is nerve wreck.

29:33

It's just a little easier, like a backup

29:36

quarterback when you go in in the middle of a game,

29:38

based on having it get in your head

29:40

for a whole week leading up when you're scheduled to do

29:42

it, So that makes it slightly easier. Yeah,

29:46

you're still scared s list though.

29:47

All right, well we got to talk KD. Kevin Durant

29:50

is Rich has a theory and a hot

29:52

take on him. But first, our boy, our

29:54

guy, dB, Dan Bayer,

29:58

Danny G's Danny G.

30:00

Puke still hasn't been cleaned up from the Oakland Colisea.

30:03

The Kansas City Chiefs gave Travis Kelcey

30:05

a new contract extension two

30:08

years, thirty four point twenty five million

30:10

dollars, and Kelsey becomes the highest

30:12

paid tight end in the NFL and is

30:14

now under contract through the twenty twenty

30:16

seven season. Ezekiel Elliott

30:18

is back with the Cowboys on a one year deal. Jarvis

30:21

Landry wants back in on the NFL after

30:23

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30:25

in twenty twenty four. Patriots A defensive

30:27

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30:30

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30:32

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30:41

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30:44

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30:46

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30:49

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30:51

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30:53

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30:55

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30:58

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31:00

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31:02

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31:04

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31:06

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31:09

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31:11

In college basketball, well fau center of

31:13

Lettermere Golden is transferring to Michigan and

31:15

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31:18

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31:20

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31:22

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31:24

Guys, back to you, hey, Dan, Yes, before

31:26

we get into KD Kevin Durant,

31:30

what was it like for you doing your first update

31:33

where you had to hit that beat and

31:35

end time time perfectly? Yeah?

31:39

Yeah, Well I was

31:41

a part in making this music bed, so

31:43

my you know, I figure my fingerprints

31:45

are all over it. I can tell you my first

31:47

broadcasting gig was for local

31:50

girls softball, and I didn't

31:52

give any last names because I knew all

31:54

the girls, so I would just say like,

31:56

and then Beth came up and walked.

31:59

But even then, I bet you were nervous.

32:01

About Yes, yes,

32:03

absolutely.

32:03

You know when you see exactly

32:07

when you see the highlights of Charlie Arnold doing

32:09

her thing over the weekend for UFC, you have to imagine

32:12

her heart was pounding out of her

32:14

chest. Not because she doesn't She's not gonna what

32:16

she does, but she's never done that before. That's

32:18

what it comes down to. So anyway, I

32:20

hope you enjoyed your weekend, and now we

32:22

got to talk Durant. Yeah.

32:25

Now, Kevin Durant,

32:29

the question really is because

32:31

everyone keeps saying this effects his legacy.

32:33

I want to know, do you think when you look at the

32:36

sum of the career of

32:38

Kevin Durant, if

32:41

everything stays as is, does

32:45

it appears though as ease? Does

32:48

it appear as though he just sort of rode

32:50

the Golden State coattails

32:53

of Steph Curry, Draymond and Clay Because

32:55

let me give you a stat I'm gonna give you a stat. Did you

32:57

say as ease as ease? How

33:00

am I supposed to beat the timber Wolves when it's so

33:02

cold? He just wants to

33:04

do his aussies on sorry impression, of course, of course

33:06

that's so hard. I know that's a good impression.

33:09

It's cold. So Kevin Durant,

33:12

let me give you the Let me give you the breakdown with

33:15

the Golden State Warriors in the postseason thirty

33:18

eight and ten without

33:24

the Golden State Warriors, Kevin Durant in

33:26

the postseason is sixty

33:28

three and fifty nine.

33:30

Essentially a five hundred guy

33:32

in the playoffs. The guy's playing five

33:34

hundred postseason basketball other

33:37

than when he was linked to the

33:39

Golden State Warriors. So do you look

33:41

and say, oh, that was just as prime?

33:44

Do you say or do you say? Stay off the we

33:47

You can tell me Kevin Durant, because

33:49

I have a couple other examples of Hall

33:51

of Famers legends where

33:54

when they were taken away from their safety

33:56

blanket, the numbers don't look

33:58

great. Is that what you think

34:00

of? KD We'll take your feedback. Next

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What

35:36

U s

35:40

get? Hitty Man, It's get heavy, He's

35:42

get heavy, but you

35:44

step up even

35:47

though you have the nervous farts. See.

35:49

But that's the difference between Rich

35:51

and I. Everything I do is against the grain, and

35:53

I step up because I love

35:55

broadcasting. But I'm not a chatty guy. Rich

35:58

Davis is like, look

36:00

at me. He's just one of those guys

36:03

who talks a mile in a minute. So he'd step up

36:05

and light its farts

36:07

on fire at the UFC octa guy. And that's

36:10

just his personality type. If you asked me to

36:12

do it, be like, okay, right, I'm

36:14

not like that, so well, you know what. You

36:16

gotta step up under pressure. Snoop Dogg changed

36:18

my mind on this how and

36:20

if you want to pick that up over there, I just dropped

36:23

the name. Oh okay, oh he said it to

36:25

you. Snoop Dogg once said to

36:27

me because I asked, like,

36:29

once you were coming into your own

36:31

and you're playing bigger venues and award shows

36:33

and all these, you know, do you ever get

36:36

nervous on stage? Or Snoop Dogg just you

36:38

know, smoke one and he's all chill. Snoop

36:40

Dogg said, I don't

36:42

get nervous. He's first of all, he said, I stay ready,

36:44

so I don't have to get ready. Yeah, and he said

36:47

he's not to get nervous at

36:49

things you're good at doesn't

36:52

make sense, doesn't make sense of energy. I know if

36:54

you if you told me Rich can

36:56

you do a h Can

36:58

you do a Michael Flatley river dance in

37:00

the middle of the room, Actually, I feel like you probably I

37:03

would be nervous, get the hell out of here. If you

37:05

told me Rich everyone loves you and Cavino

37:08

you want to be on Dancing with the Stars, I'd be like, no

37:10

way, I'd freak out. But because that's

37:12

guess what I can't do dance Rhythm

37:15

is a dancer, not Rich Davis. But if you said,

37:17

hey, do you want to make these announcements, I'd say,

37:20

yeah, sure. Why get nervous over something you're good

37:22

at. If you're a plumber, would you ever get nervous

37:24

changing pipes? If you're a mechanic and someone

37:26

said, hey, can you fix my car, you want to

37:28

get nervous, So why would you get nervous broadcasting?

37:31

It's great advice, but I could see how

37:34

you know, Charlie must have felt doing that in the

37:37

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38:08

Yeah, I listen. I'm not one to want to

38:10

just, you

38:12

know, be a jerk for no reason. Kevin Durantz

38:15

has never done anything to me. He's that we never

38:17

fought on his real account, door burner account. I

38:19

really, I've never been very

38:22

opinion on it, opinionated on Katie

38:24

Away thought he was a great NBA player. I was never

38:26

like, man, this guy is lame, or oh he's the best

38:28

player in the league. I have no previous

38:31

strong opinion on Kevin. No

38:33

real Spinky DoD Davis. You

38:36

say you're not ready, Yeah, I think I'm ready, man, so

38:40

coming in that's six foot eleven?

38:42

Is he like six eleven? Yeah, with big

38:45

ass feet. He's really over seven foot. I

38:47

think they downplay it, I really do. It looks

38:49

like he has water skis but their feet.

38:53

Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant,

38:58

he just fine?

38:59

Man?

39:00

Who are you so again?

39:03

This is not coming from a I hate kd place

39:05

or I love Katie. I'm just curious do

39:08

you think your oppression

39:10

of him has changed? Because for me, I'm

39:12

starting to feel like he

39:15

just joined up with a good team and you gotta

39:17

pat him on the back for saying, oh, Steph

39:19

Clay and Draymond can't lose, guys.

39:22

Waight up. I'm coming over there to win a couple

39:24

because outside of that, Kevin

39:26

Durant is a five hundred at

39:29

best playoff player.

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He's already had this sort of stigma and reputation

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when he made that move, and he hasn't

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won since. I think we're

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getting at here is losing four

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to zero to Timberwolves, As Monsi

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says, the timberwolfs Wolves

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timber Wolves only solidifies

39:49

that theory, right or wrong. I mean

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that Phoenix Suns experiment. They

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put a lot of money into that team and a lot of a

39:56

lot of hope and to get swept like

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that, it just makes you wonder, is KD

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not the gamer we thought? Is he just a

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tremendous scorer, top tier

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player that just can't

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deliver in the postseason unless he was with

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Steph Curry, Draymond Green

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and Klay Thompson. Because the stats

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would show you with those guys thirty

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eight and ten without him a couple games

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over five hundred, and I mean, you could

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say it's not on him, it's the cast of

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characters that he was with are

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much different. If

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he's the common denominator in the story, let

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me give you, let me give you two more. Without

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Tom Brady on the roster, Bill

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Belichick's coaching record eighty

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two and ninety eight, does that make

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you think, ooh, maybe without

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without it's like without your security blanket, without

40:46

Tom Brady, without Steph for drama

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for KD? What about this one Joe

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Tory when not managing

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Derek Jeter taking

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taking Joe Tory out of the

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pinstripes. He's

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almost one hundred games under five hundred, almost

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one hundred games under five hundred as a manager

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in Major League baseball. Now add the

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Yankees in there, and he's a Hall of Famer because

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he had Jeeter Pisada, Bernie Pettitt,

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Marianna Rivera, I'm sorry, the Warrior,

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Paul o' neill, Paul O'Neill and Isafro. Yes.

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My point is is, Joe Tory, I

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feel like Iowa Sam had

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the same barber. What do you think? Yeah, No,

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Paul O'Neill would say, give me the io was Sam?

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Oh? Did ioa Sam say give me the Paul O'Neill.

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I don't know. But my point is, I'm

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not saying they're They're not great players

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or coaches. But without

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Brady Belichick's under

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five hundred, without Jeter Tory's

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under five hundred, and without Steph

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Curry, Clay and Draymond, Kevin

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Durant is a five hundred playoff

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guy with no real key wins. Did he

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say the same for Jordan without Pippin? You didn't

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do anything without Pippin? Your

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thoughts on this? Kevin Durant's legacy he

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solidified, tarnished, tainted a

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little bit again, proving once again

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he can't do it without those guys. Your thoughts

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on him, We'll take your phone calls, We'll

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chop it up. Let's do it. Coveno

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