Anj is Founder of Inspiring Women Changemakers, Chair of Freedom Studios (a theatre organisation in Bradford) and Governor of Leeds Arts University. We chat about the brilliant tactics that Freedom Studios has employed to engage more diverse audiences with theatre; Afusat Saliu's asylum case and the Change.org campaign; equality, diversity and inclusion - specifically lived experience, White Men, and 'passing'; Whataboutery, dealing with the trolls and emotional correctness. Hope you enjoy listening!