We often think of engineering as buildings, bridges, boats ... but what can the ordinary small objects that we put in our mouths teach us about an engineer's process? And why is breaking things just as important as making?

British artist and materials engineer Zoe Laughlin opens up the doors to her Institute Of Making, a research club for those interested in the made world.

Roma Agrawal M.B.E hosts.

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