In our first episode with an international guest, Dr Jen Frahm (from Melbourne, Australia), gives her amazing insights to change.  Jen is a highly experienced change practitioner (and Ph.D. Dr no less) and we learned so much from this conversation. 

Jen talks about loving the messiness of change, why being a 'slashie' is so hard, her advice for new change practitioners and leaders and why she thinks, as change practitioners, we need to get better at sharing. If you do start sharing please @ her at @JenFrahm and use our hashtag #CreatingChange

You can find more about Jen here;

For those working in change:

https://conversationsofchange.com.au/

For those leading change

https://drjenfrahm.com/

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