0:00

this how are or actually affect

0:01

you, no matter how aware

0:04

you watching right now, 13

0:06

states have these so trigger laws in place

0:08

for this very circumstance of roping? overturn

0:11

mean going to affect very quickly

0:13

now to ban abortion according

0:15

the abortion rights group the good marker institute

0:18

for example, in louisiana

0:21

and south dakota, it

0:23

happens immediately meaning, have you had

0:25

an appointment this morning at 8, for

0:27

this you can go through with it

0:29

from here on out no you cannot according

0:32

to their law has planned they are we we moved

0:34

a second group the next level abortion

0:36

bans to be enforced thirty days

0:38

after row is overturned that includes idaho

0:40

texas and tennessee

0:42

and then com a half dozen

0:45

states where official would need to certify

0:47

their legislation is legally valid

0:50

before they are bands will kick in

0:53

that includes north dakota wyoming utah

0:55

missouri oklahoma arkansas and

0:58

mississippi not this could be

1:00

credibly quick or could take maybe a few

1:02

days according to good marker so they

1:04

could in effect be immediate

1:07

or couple of days and finally

1:10

we add in the states that have old unenforced

1:12

abortion bans was could now be enforced

1:15

and those that past bans under row

1:17

which were blocked by courts all together

1:20

you get a whopping twenty six days

1:22

certain were likely to

1:24

ban abortion and that's compared to just

1:26

sixteen states and dc with laws

1:29

to protect abortion rights states which even

1:31

now preparing for an influx of patience

1:33

crossing state lines seeking care and you

1:35

can imagine what will be like in illinois

1:38

we're surrounded on all sides of states

1:40

had very quickly there have already are very quickly

1:42

will ban abortion so what

1:45

is the severity of these bands what are we

1:47

looking at here missouri

1:49

has eyes on targeting even

1:52

non residents if you were to pass through

1:54

and conceive a child they would continue

1:56

on that with her if you had an abortion elsewhere

1:58

so the laws are very

1:59

we're big steps hundred and fact

2:02

every community

2:12

a lovely listeners i'm welcome back

2:14

to crime analysts and the intelligence cel

2:18

i hope he sounds hot one of my interview with

2:20

robbie a chowdhry illuminating

2:22

there's much more to come on that versus

2:24

heard and i sense that i'll be sharing

2:26

my expert analysis and feature from

2:29

my say there are more important things going

2:31

on in the world but what i will say

2:33

is that this case has had a profound impact

2:36

on women and on cases happening

2:38

right now that's important

2:40

to me this is why i'm continuing

2:42

to deconstruct the case and i really

2:44

hope the tide is now slowly turning

2:47

many celebrities were quick to support

2:49

that based on rumor and conjecture

2:51

alone and some of them has now

2:53

withdrawn their lights how

2:56

about speaking publicly about

2:58

why and how you got this case wrong

3:01

there's support and solidarity

3:03

for amber heard cause

3:05

we humans and sometimes we make

3:07

mistakes that is what happens afterwards

3:09

that matters beating out

3:12

matters i'm like i said

3:14

as much more i can say about the case on

3:16

i'm sure i will talk about it again in the future

3:18

with other experts this and now

3:21

i want to pivot to the second part of my discussion

3:23

with robbie i really wanted to get

3:25

robbie as perspective on roads i says wade

3:27

being overturned you know i

3:30

still can't get my head around this happening

3:33

so instructive but it's men trying

3:35

to push through ill thought through trigger

3:37

laws and will say that there are

3:39

those on social media and in real life

3:41

to think that this is not such a big deal

3:44

when it is it's a fundamental

3:46

human right to get reproductive health

3:49

care and over half the population

3:51

have been stripped of those rights that's

3:54

not okay it's

3:56

not for state lawmaker

3:58

mainly men to the way

4:00

women's rights to choose as

4:02

if we're incapable of making decisions

4:04

in our own best interest

4:07

abortion is now illegal or heavily

4:09

restricted and at least fourteen

4:11

states following the supreme

4:13

court's historic decision in june

4:15

to overturn roe versus wade

4:18

the at least nine other states

4:21

have laws in place that paved

4:23

the way to quickly ban or severely restrict

4:25

access to abortion than

4:27

anyone violating the law could be

4:29

subject to civil penalties criminal

4:31

fines and imprisonment the

4:34

phone in some states the penalty

4:36

for abortion is longer than

4:38

it is the right that should

4:40

tell you everything you need to know also

4:43

in importantly he is a study

4:45

say that some aside is hop cause

4:47

of maternal deaths in the united states

4:50

the with an abusive man increases

4:53

the risk of some aside if you're pregnant

4:55

it's a high risk factor for women and girls

4:58

and we should not be forcing motherhood

5:00

on women and girls black

5:02

women in the united states who are pregnant

5:05

or were recently pregnant have up to

5:07

a nearly three fold higher risk

5:09

of dying by some aside than those

5:11

who are not pregnant the highest

5:14

increase reported among any racial

5:16

or ethnic group this

5:18

should alarm everyone we're

5:20

already seeing an extremely concerning

5:22

impact regarding health care for women don't

5:25

have a nurse is a say for the being viewed

5:27

as aiding and abetting a many health

5:29

care for it is a conflicted in

5:32

other words is now a see a culture

5:34

many may well leave those red states

5:37

leaving the worst dot suspect there

5:40

are a huge implications for women medicine

5:43

allowing male politicians and see

5:45

to decide health care for women is so

5:47

dangerous and the impact is

5:49

and will be a repairable just

5:52

before i get to the interview with robbie i

5:54

want to share with you some examples of

5:56

what's going on in

5:58

access the texas medical creation

6:00

his off the regulator to staten after

6:02

several hospitals prevented talked to

6:04

some treating patients with serious

6:07

pregnancy complications her

6:09

fear of violating the states abortion

6:11

ban one hospital

6:13

told adults are not to treat an ectopic

6:16

pregnancy until it ruptured

6:18

the not a woman in texas is now

6:20

on a ventilator after being forced to carry

6:23

a dead cetus following a miscarriage

6:26

leading to a deadly

6:27

correction this is just utterly

6:29

barbaric and of course again

6:32

sort doctors join the procession to do

6:35

the know most about girls and women who'd been abused

6:38

what about those who seem right what

6:40

about their rights the

6:43

her recent case of a ten year old a higher

6:45

girl was recently in the news because

6:47

she traveled to indiana for an abortion

6:49

after she was right the abortion

6:51

provider in night cases dot to caitlin

6:54

bernard she did all the right sings

6:57

on fall do the necessary form initially

7:00

the veracity of the story was doubted

7:03

one of course it would be because women are not

7:05

believed for crying out loud when

7:08

in reality most have no idea what

7:10

really goes on and how this impacts

7:13

the most vulnerable in this

7:15

case now the doctor is the one being

7:17

investigated hey to listen

7:19

to this

7:21

in ohio man is being charged with

7:23

the rape of a ten year old girl who

7:25

needed to travel out of state to indiana

7:28

for an abortion the case

7:30

through national attention or also drew a lot of scrutiny

7:32

in the wake of the supreme court's decision to overturn

7:35

roe v wade cnn's genius or

7:37

as is joining us now ah

7:39

jean this is sort of a twist because

7:41

there were many people are namely

7:43

republicans would cast doubt on whether

7:46

this even existed whether this girl

7:48

even existed and yet

7:49

we are charges now been filed the

7:51

it is a tragic amazing

7:53

story her the fact that man

7:56

according to police and court documents as twenty

7:58

seven year old garrison flynn

7:59

the

8:00

according to franklin county municipal court

8:02

when faces charged with felony rape

8:05

of a minor under the age of thirteen

8:07

years old the been held onto

8:09

million dollars bond the charged

8:12

with raping a ten year old girl

8:14

who became pregnant police were

8:16

alerted to the case because a referral made

8:19

to the franklin county ohio children's

8:21

services by her mother the and

8:23

of police detective jeffrey hoon testified

8:25

wednesday at wednesday's arraignment that

8:27

the girl underwent a medical abortion in

8:30

indianapolis on june thirtieth the

8:32

procedure is banned in ohio after

8:34

six weeks of pregnancy and

8:36

will be goi and indianapolis told cnn

8:39

that she did help the ten year old girl from ohio

8:41

who was six weeks and three

8:44

days pregnant have the

8:46

procedure

8:47

thank you for laying out the facts of

8:49

this case as we know them g

8:51

the brow to mention there were some

8:53

who are raising questions about whether

8:55

this even happened what are these people

8:58

raises it as saying now the charges have

8:59

the i looked on social media many people

9:02

just found this unbelievable

9:04

and i think it's a lesson for all of us you know number

9:06

of conserve this through doubt on the story and

9:09

jim jordan actually called it a lie

9:12

he deleted that tweet i'm

9:14

there's also an aspect that

9:16

i'm that the attorney general

9:18

of ohio they've yost

9:21

told fox news early on on monday

9:23

so early on run thursday now but he

9:25

said that there was not a whisper that the crime it occurred

9:27

going so far as to claim that there had been no

9:29

requests for any dna analysis

9:32

on a rape kit matching such a case

9:34

now there's always two sides to a story

9:36

is there another side cnn is looking

9:38

into then the mother

9:40

of the girl reported the rape last month

9:43

of franklin county children's services agency

9:45

which were forward a complaint the police and

9:47

we also now know from testimony

9:49

and that arraignment the dna as been collected

9:51

it's been tested to make a confirmation

9:54

that a do that for a criminal case right and

9:57

yost released the following statement on wednesday

9:59

that not offer an apology for casting

10:01

doubt over the case he wrote my

10:04

heart aches for the pain suffered by

10:06

this young child i am grateful the

10:08

diligent work of the columbus police department

10:10

and securing a confession and getting

10:13

a rapist off the street

10:16

there in this case a twenty seven year old man

10:18

has now been arrested for the right

10:20

this is utterly horrific what

10:22

about the consequences for men ten

10:25

euro was traumatized most four times

10:27

over first by the rapist

10:30

and then by the system kristen

10:32

the should be there to protect her on

10:34

her right the

10:37

child she's done nothing wrong

10:40

how can that be right

10:43

and in indiana the governor signed

10:45

the first place where abortion ban

10:48

with limited exceptions on

10:50

friday the sets of august beyond

10:52

limits exceptions the new law

10:54

will end legal abortion in

10:56

indiana next month in

10:59

kansas another conservative

11:01

midwest and state voters

11:04

overwhelmingly rejected an amendment

11:06

that would have stripped abortion rights protections

11:08

from the state constitution thank

11:11

goodness people came out invited the

11:14

people have spoken and that's in a

11:16

red state on the

11:18

second of august the united states of america

11:20

justice department's sued idaho

11:22

over near total abortion ban

11:24

coming in on the twenty says of august the

11:27

lawsuit is president biden administration's

11:30

first legal action since

11:32

the supreme court overturned ray vs

11:34

wade take a listen to this

11:38

they the justice department filed a lawsuit

11:40

against the state of idaho the

11:43

suit seeks to hold invalid the states

11:45

criminal prohibition and providing abortions

11:48

as applied to women who are suffering

11:50

medical emergencies under

11:52

federal law known as the emergency

11:54

medical treatment and labour act or

11:57

and power every hospital

11:59

that receives the care fun must

12:01

provide necessary stabilizing treatment

12:03

to a patient who are rise in an

12:05

emergency room suffering from a

12:08

medical condition that replaced

12:10

our life or health in

12:12

serious jeopardy in some

12:14

circumstances medical treatment

12:17

necessary to stabilize the patient's

12:19

condition there's abortion this

12:21

may be the case for example when

12:23

a woman is undergoing a miscarriage that

12:25

threatens septic infection or hemorrhage

12:28

are suffering from severe preeclampsia

12:32

the hospital determines whether an abortion

12:35

is the medical treatment necessary

12:37

to stabilize the patience emergency

12:39

medical condition it is

12:41

required by federal law to

12:43

provide that treatment as

12:46

detailed in our complaint idaho's

12:49

law would make it a criminal offense

12:51

for doctors to provide the emergency

12:54

medical treatment that federal law

12:56

requires although

12:58

they idaho law provides an exception

13:00

to prevent the death of a pregnant woman

13:03

it includes no exception for

13:05

cases in which the abortion is necessary

13:08

to prevent serious jeopardy to

13:10

the woman's health

13:12

moreover

13:13

they would subject doctors to arrest and

13:15

criminal prosecution even

13:18

if they performed an abortion to save

13:20

a woman's life and it would then

13:22

placed a burden on the doctors to

13:24

prove that they are not criminally liable the

13:28

united states bear for seeks a declaratory

13:30

judgment that idaho's law violates

13:33

the supremacy clause of the united

13:35

states constitution and is

13:37

preempted by federal law to

13:39

the extent it is in conflict with

13:41

i'm taller the united states

13:44

also seeks an injunction prohibiting

13:46

idaho from enforcing it's

13:48

law against health care providers who

13:50

provide the emergency treatment

13:52

required by impala

13:55

the justice department has since asked

13:57

a federal judge to pause the idaho your

13:59

boss the ban stance

14:01

this trigger law will come into a set

14:04

on the twenty sets of august twenty twenty two

14:07

the law will criminalize abortions

14:09

and anyone he performs attempts

14:11

or assists abortion was safe two

14:13

to five years in prison and lose

14:15

their health care license the

14:18

russians who do say to save a patient's

14:20

life or in a case of rape or incest

14:23

can use the information as a legal defense

14:26

during a criminal trial justice

14:29

department attorney lisa newman writing

14:31

court documents filed on the ninth of august

14:34

twenty twenty two even

14:36

in cases where termination of the pregnancy

14:38

is necessary to prevent the patient's

14:40

death the idaho law requires

14:42

a physician to risk arrest and prosecution

14:45

for each abortion performed because

14:48

the lure of foods only and affirmative

14:50

defense that a physician must prove

14:52

that try hi threatening

14:55

physicians with criminal prosecution

14:57

even when they provide treatment in emergency

15:00

life threat the situations as

15:02

federal law requires idaho's

15:04

law penalizes and discourages

15:06

such treatment and thereby conflicts

15:09

directly with central law this

15:12

to me this awfully insane

15:16

women and girls and doctors

15:18

and health care workers will be put

15:20

in impossible situations

15:23

and this complex legal maneuvering

15:25

is now playing out all over the red states

15:27

in the united states of america what

15:30

an awesome the government

15:32

is now having to sue individual states

15:34

so that women don't die

15:37

many many women

15:41

okay with that having been said and to give

15:43

you the context of was going on on the ground

15:46

boscolo and listen to what robbie or and i

15:48

had to say about

15:50

i wanted to hear your thoughts on roe

15:52

versus wade being overturned and wet weather

15:55

you thought that would ever have in a more

15:57

he thinks you know the repercussions

15:59

all

16:00

i mean my entire life

16:02

we have had though the way i mean like it's

16:04

been a precedent like my entire life growing up the

16:07

country and the idea that my daughters

16:09

will not have the same protections that i did

16:11

to the reproductive rights it's still

16:14

i know

16:15

thinking and i just had a somebody

16:16

it it a i really believed the greatest threat to this country

16:19

right now is the supreme court's because

16:21

the way they're making decisions it's

16:23

like they're gonna break us up and to like to direct

16:25

countries there the states were safe from in

16:27

states where it's not and the states word

16:30

safe limited to if a woman from once they got

16:32

another and she can we trust for

16:34

that i mean some , might

16:36

think okay but season in one state

16:38

for a woman to like you know get access to abortion

16:42

abortion is not true i mean like when you have

16:45

when you politicians making the case abortion

16:47

is murder which is basically what they're saying

16:49

guarantees

16:49

this is a natural life and abortion is murder

16:52

then it's not much further a step to

16:54

say now we can charge that murder in

16:56

fact louisiana

16:57

the a bill had proposed i think they got

16:59

rid of it that they could charge for murder

17:01

lucy has a death valley state so

17:04

like what is the end of this what about the

17:06

providers what about people who

17:08

nurse

17:09

the woman during or after words

17:11

i mean like you don't like we've lived through the

17:13

aftermath of nine eleven when mature

17:15

the support was ,

17:17

you provide any material support to

17:19

terrorists which could be something as

17:21

like innocuous as i gave somebody a

17:23

ride at a know where he was going you don't

17:25

miss as a prostitute and it was prosecuted prosecuted

17:28

think it's terrifying i also think it's not representative

17:30

of the of it's not representative one

17:32

american spawns i only i refuse to believe

17:34

that even among conservatives even ,

17:36

like were just being held hostage down by of really

17:39

a small group of extra extremists elephants

17:42

ideological extremists and i think

17:44

a lot women are gonna get very very hurt with women

17:46

are die i think about so

17:48

many victims of rape

17:51

i mean de sac that you thought lawmakers

17:54

just having no shame

17:56

know second thoughts about saying publicly

17:58

saying the middle the

17:59

ring

17:59

i don't the dish of an exception for the

18:02

ten year old girl got pregnant from rape their

18:04

lawmakers who say to the say you

18:06

can get pregnant if you've been raped

18:08

it's really troubling

18:10

eminences one troubling as careful as it's

18:12

terrifying as a scare fine as for the new word

18:15

and i think it's a signal for so much

18:17

else is gonna is gonna it and on in

18:19

this country

18:19

the progress it's in the last twenty twenty five years

18:22

is gonna get under

18:23

terrifying i think that's probably the

18:25

right word i didn't think that this would

18:27

happen i must admit i ever really

18:29

didn't think that it possibly could and twenty twenty

18:32

two i weighed fighting still

18:34

for women's rights spurts effectively

18:36

making women second class citizens and saying

18:38

the a third party should decide

18:40

that woman just is insane

18:43

to me there i just can't

18:45

get my head around it

18:47

in all the conversations around like

18:49

the criminality of this there's

18:51

never the role of like the man involves

18:53

the brain

18:54

the never comes out you know somewhere

18:56

around person

18:57

of unwanted pregnancies a cause young

18:59

men a net zero repercussions

19:02

for men the why this all

19:04

on women and you know i'm a muslim

19:06

by by faith and tradition

19:07

bringing end on it is

19:09

is actually goes against my religion because and

19:12

you there are there is a jewish groups that sued i think

19:14

the city florida has under

19:16

jewish and muslim law

19:18

there are plenty of exceptions

19:20

to every like abortion that it is

19:23

not prohibited up until one

19:25

hundred twenty days in the pregnancy of course

19:27

is permitted at any time the pregnancy

19:29

if the woman some of the mother's life is in danger abortions

19:31

permitted to one like all it takes presence

19:34

in case of rape and incest like

19:36

he could have access to it so to me the

19:38

idea that like little more around the world have more

19:41

protection on access them like american

19:43

women is

19:44

i never thought i'd see the day i didn't

19:46

and we know that is people without

19:48

means without financier against be

19:50

hit the hardest because women

19:52

with mean something mean something twenty

19:55

three percent of the abortions in the uk

19:57

were done on american women are you can

19:59

i was gonna say

19:59

they're going to fly to europe and get was he

20:02

need done or max

20:02

however yeah yeah and them

20:05

where do we go from there then he starts hanging

20:07

women so that they can't travel if

20:10

you suspect they pregnant you do pregnancy

20:12

test at the airport i just can't

20:14

see how it will

20:16

move the way the it is

20:18

not breaching every human rights of a

20:20

woman yeah there's no bottom here

20:23

is the end is to make

20:24

for every pregnancy results

20:27

in you know a birth then

20:29

i really believe that there's a group of people in

20:31

this country that will employ every means to make sure that

20:33

happens

20:37

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many

21:16

women com carried the full time they ride

21:19

that medical reasons or a

21:21

the to marry for know every

21:23

pregnancy viable but as are not seeing as

21:25

seeing as issue with it it would the

21:28

rain them women will die oh

21:30

they be unsafe abortions as well

21:32

it is just terrifying to

21:34

me but women are at all so i pasted

21:36

some things this morning and the number of winning contacted

21:39

me saying when it's murder murder

21:41

of tude my can't believe that you're saying this

21:44

and women a using abortion

21:46

is contraception and

21:49

i just saw and while proof that

21:51

he was a and

21:51

coming from oh no that's been a false

21:54

talking point like for propaganda for decades

21:56

right i mean nobody does who

21:58

does that are you kidding

21:59

the market know yeah that i know

22:02

yeah know they had i need a brain washing

22:04

his eerie systemic

22:06

for other women

22:07

you should be say that a woman shouldn't have a right

22:10

to make a decision than that it's okay for someone

22:12

else to make a decision about her body

22:14

even more

22:16

fine to me that women are buying into it

22:18

which we know that they do said the one

22:20

on you must have his autonomy and sovereignty

22:22

to make all right decisions about what

22:24

happened

22:26

who off and i think the irony

22:28

is basically where this is happening in texas

22:30

with ivaldi the report came out

22:33

nineteen children who teachers

22:35

were killed and law enforcement almost

22:37

four hundred of them

22:39

i was stood outside

22:41

the unlocked door and did nothing

22:43

and yes the you've got lives not

22:46

being protected either so the

22:48

whole argument about how precious children are

22:50

just doesn't ring true

22:52

when we see firearms being prioritized

22:56

are you for women and children and all rights

22:58

in our life and that's what makes me angry

23:01

that the firearm laws seem to

23:03

know protected

23:05

the our women again you and the north florida

23:07

or disingenuous a thing either whenever

23:09

laws that are not

23:11

part of like kind of a whole list

23:13

check system that means they're and

23:16

ideological and there's there's an agenda

23:18

behind that that's really not about like

23:20

the holistic betterment of when

23:22

you're you're providing child care europe providing and

23:24

and paternity leave, you're not promoting care,

23:26

you don't like welfare queens

23:29

you want to get rid of food stamps for children,

23:31

with programs, are women and infants, you

23:33

don't care about children i that's

23:36

what that means you don't care about families this

23:38

is all all bullshit i mean, it's just clear

23:40

to me you know, again i come

23:42

i'm from focus on i come from a

23:44

muslim family and i am

23:46

connected to a lot of muslim communities are very conservative

23:49

ones and safeties in this country i

23:51

have never even heard this topic debated

23:53

so annual it really does germany a member

23:55

of the on it's ruminates like of it's very right

23:57

wing evangelicals los se

23:59

about what

24:00

and died and how the hell and us

24:03

would just like , conversations

24:05

among schools i've never once heard this conversation

24:07

like super like it's as a health care issue like it

24:09

suffices after issue but

24:11

the all of us have to be held hostage

24:13

to the belief of like this one

24:16

community in out at to me it's just it's

24:18

not at all about like that there's no holistic

24:21

approach you cannot prove to me those people

24:23

who want to ban all abortions too matter what

24:25

the circumstances humphrey just to

24:27

the actually care about the they are pro life in

24:29

any way shape or form beyond that they just

24:31

aren't it's bullshit sorry no

24:34

i'm glad you've given me on the

24:36

legal advice on it that is bullshit because

24:38

bullshit completely agree it's own power and control

24:40

and thus what

24:42

me angry particularly here in the way

24:44

through these mass shootings and were actually everyone's

24:46

attention should be on very

24:48

input can critical issues the legislation

24:51

as trying to increase safety in

24:54

schools and for women and children not

24:56

trying to take away autonomy

24:59

and reproductive rights from

25:00

in and as you said there's a signal now

25:03

of where they're moving to a gay rights

25:05

and it and it will concede young a force which

25:07

in frightening i think yeah

25:09

what do you think will happen next robbie are in

25:12

in terms of your legal knowledge

25:14

and experience to thing by them will step

25:16

in make things more

25:18

clear in terms of where the money

25:20

will be taken away from certain

25:22

states or is there anything legislatively

25:25

he can when in this situation

25:28

i said it's before among several much on this

25:30

show through the problem is the supreme court we

25:32

need to expand the courts that can be done

25:34

through a congressional act biden doesn't

25:36

have the involved with that role that's a power

25:39

the democrats have they're not you live in i don't

25:41

understand why i mean i feel like we just shop

25:43

it's nice sites would like plastic

25:45

forks i don't know what we're doing we're

25:47

not going as you know we should be using

25:49

every weapon in our arsenal displaying everything

25:52

we can do pastas amendments whatever like

25:54

all of adored all against discuss this

25:57

is awesome is wrote tipping point tipping think

25:59

because app the marriage equality i mean not

26:01

even desegregation then if you're

26:03

gonna make everything a states right issue except for

26:05

things like done say the rent it everything

26:07

a c is a states rights issue then we

26:09

just went out we're turning into the wild west where it's gonna be

26:11

like like a different countries

26:13

and fiefdoms and it'll be a state they

26:16

fight gray like to i know to maryland

26:18

for example to try to pass some plans to seoul

26:20

our language turn to although

26:23

in a couple of candidates who wanted that loss and primary

26:25

last day so that may not happen the gop gubernatorial

26:27

candidates for yeah it'll be a state by state site

26:30

and women have thought this

26:32

battle before and they won the battle before

26:34

it can happen again but not with the supreme

26:37

court it can happen the other day

26:39

every legal fight will end there

26:42

everything and there that

26:45

supreme court we have to

26:47

change supreme court

26:48

came to see cream cone so spanned it

26:51

to waltz

26:51

theme thirteen yeah now make

26:53

sense the thirteenth roger six an aside

26:55

it makes sense my thing in a women do

26:57

have to vote as well they may i

26:59

think sometimes i can be asked to see birds

27:02

you have to vote with your rec some things

27:05

that really matter and i think

27:07

these things are important for people

27:09

to have a voice on and say well you know mother's

27:11

on my light

27:13

people do well the thing is like in greater

27:15

and it or numbers on his issues in a heap are

27:17

coming out and voting what's happening is under getting

27:19

gerrymandered and then during that their vote something

27:21

disenfranchised and like he wants

27:23

to portray as vote or actually cancer votes

27:25

the votes are not counting for the much right

27:27

like you have area in which the

27:29

, other small rural population

27:32

have the same would like three thousand people

27:34

have the same weight as a vote or three hundred

27:36

thousand people in urban areas democracy

27:39

and us and democracy so if

27:42

there's so much that needs and again

27:44

even on those issues you know like it

27:46

ends up the supreme court they're supreme court who decide

27:49

but it's so important and weaponized now and so

27:51

you know it's i don't know how to say that at this point

27:53

for equipped with as you said it could

27:56

be did it did it is expanded in

27:58

our in the uk people vote

27:59

the exo they march there's

28:02

a lot of more

28:03

the women's a bit here i

28:05

feel that that is even cattell doesn't

28:07

fit his women being able to

28:09

make

28:09

the lies in a march because as much

28:11

more of a to same one of the marches

28:13

in l a l a p d the physically

28:16

throwing women down on the ground dominates

28:19

class quite frightening in

28:21

terms of the police response

28:22

there were in this era now

28:24

where the ,

28:27

i don't care for millions real the show up they

28:29

don't result in the political pressure that they should

28:32

because we're in an era where politicians

28:35

cannot be shamed isn't doing the right thing they

28:38

can be caught with their pants down they can be caught

28:40

in the middle of all kinds of scandals that ordinarily

28:43

thirty years ago twenty years ago would

28:45

have ended their careers and it doesn't

28:47

matter anymore it doesn't matter

28:49

anymore they can send police out

28:52

national guard out to suit protesters

28:54

exercise the first amendment rights a

28:56

will not end their career i

28:58

just feel like where i don't know what to call this

29:01

era the post same era justified

29:03

or know it at all but there definitely

29:05

has been of excess you know there used to be a time

29:07

when if enough people showed up like

29:10

local leaders will be like this like this look under

29:12

that we have given to demands they don't care anymore

29:15

that's interesting you say the actually looking at

29:17

ted cruz's behavior in texas

29:20

and albert's away

29:21

they didn't attend any of

29:23

the children's funeral was they didn't reach out to

29:25

the family ted cruz's actually

29:27

i was in texas at the time when

29:30

rob elementary was

29:32

under siege and i

29:35

just found that staggering looking at his twitter

29:37

feeds yang thoughts and prayers

29:39

and i saw someone to copy and pasted

29:41

every time he said that thoughts and prayers

29:43

and then started saying things like will

29:45

we need teachers to be armed

29:48

and we need more guns on of course

29:50

now we've all seen the footage that

29:52

there were many many offices there

29:54

within minutes with guns

29:56

are not didn't stop the promotional like does

29:58

not seem doesn't

29:59

the time's right exactly and

30:02

a teenager with an a office

30:03

the in to the rest of the world and probably

30:05

to most of america most people can see

30:07

what the problem is the teenager with the

30:09

a all sustained on yet you've

30:12

got politicians talking about taking

30:14

outdoors in schools and

30:16

arming teachers when

30:19

law enforcement don't even want to go in and respond

30:21

because they're cecil of a teenager with

30:23

a nail fifteen but they're not going to stop the teenager

30:26

from getting their a all sales in it is

30:28

to such nonsense

30:29

yeah i'm frightened night

30:32

i america the were country i

30:35

, look what you're saying about and other countries

30:37

like my roses back home or like what

30:39

is it like why what is a rainy the got

30:41

like y y sus of his passion around like

30:43

this thing they said i don't it's a really strong gun culture that

30:46

doesn't exist anywhere else in the world there's a reason

30:48

for it exists anywhere else in the world in people perfectly

30:50

safe my relatives like about this

30:52

on really think that we're having done so

30:54

in every corner in america

30:55

what if even a new this concept gun

30:58

violence and basing their much safer

31:00

than we are in many ways they are to they have

31:02

never really have to worry about sending their

31:04

kids to school are going to i'm all going a movie theater

31:07

and some a showing up with her and arm person

31:09

showing up the shooting it just doesn't happen there

31:11

it a member

31:12

it doesn't in the uk and that's why i have to

31:14

the others the consider were rusty goes

31:16

to school a scam should be a place

31:18

of safety i mean there's no two ways

31:20

about it

31:21

injustice my son already had an active

31:23

shooter at his i'm at a montessori last year

31:25

oh my slots yeah he didn't the building

31:28

he was out milan and he was over

31:30

two hundred yards away from where the kids were in lockdown

31:32

but it was like you know thirteen little four

31:35

and five year olds and thankfully nobody was hurt

31:37

but i prefer terrifying

31:39

that really is but that's the reality

31:42

you know his school children

31:44

the to do drills and that it's in

31:47

their lives and it it needn't be

31:49

the thing is the right decisions are being

31:51

made politically in the right people were in power

31:54

i view is we need more women in

31:56

a seats and until you get

31:58

women who are mothers

31:59

then who have empathy and

32:02

due regard to other people then

32:04

things will change either change iso

32:07

that most men don't understand

32:10

the reality facing women

32:12

and children because they're so concerned

32:14

with their own purview in their own perspective

32:17

and that's why they to me

32:18

the they listen and they don't represent

32:20

women

32:21

and until we have winning being represented

32:23

by women is it going to change

32:25

look i definitely think we have

32:28

given men long enough to see get the shit out

32:30

and they haven't affected by and large

32:32

somebody that thousands thousands

32:34

of years like you know maybe maybe

32:37

i don't know you know it's interesting i just wonder if

32:39

i'm like if we will ever lived to see like the

32:41

first female president america i it's

32:43

it's so soft into the because of and see more president's

32:46

prime minister's a buck assad have been the there's of all

32:48

these countries the world and in america

32:50

seems like well you don't get when you ask like

32:52

biden were deal isn't i think by should do

32:55

writing by should do a step down his the average

32:57

third year in office sometime

32:59

during a thirty and so that he says look

33:02

at the very first woman ever become president this

33:04

country becoming president and then making or a strong

33:06

income that he cannot run again queer

33:09

man cannot run again and without any

33:11

kind of experience color doesn't have shown of

33:13

the chance of she's running brighter than who

33:15

do we have right so i really think i really hope

33:17

that his the best what they're thinking as like

33:20

till sub down litter let her spend a year

33:22

being president united states for humans in humans convent

33:25

that you know i don't know what off bidens gonna

33:27

do i think he has because i think she's very

33:29

much what it was also been i think is a good man

33:31

thing is a good decent man who believes in the goodness

33:33

of people in bipartisanship but

33:36

i think people like keep talking

33:38

bipartisanship without seeing like what's really

33:40

actually happening like that we can operate

33:43

in that when when the other parties not

33:45

operating in good faith

33:46

absolutely i believe that it is

33:49

time for america to have a female president

33:51

the able to you and i hate she is a mentor

33:54

for that role as as the

33:56

you say and i genuinely

33:58

feel that until we have women in power things

34:01

won't change our experiences

34:03

are unique and that's why it is important

34:05

and we mothers and we care about

34:07

other people therefore we don't make decisions

34:09

just based on our own self interest and unfortunately

34:12

that's what we tend to see with

34:14

most men who are in power and it's

34:17

as you say they've had long enough to sort the shit

34:19

out and they haven't managed to do it and

34:22

i'm sure were hurt the world's to rights

34:24

at at another time as works on conscious

34:26

of your time and want and respect for your

34:28

time he squeezed me into

34:30

this interview is there anything we haven't covered

34:32

that you wanted to make mention of no

34:35

not really like really know these know

34:36

the issues really pressing undermined and i think it's good

34:39

for women like us to talk about it and

34:41

signal for other women that have some important that they

34:43

that they also like in on have these conversations

34:45

and if they are concerned they should

34:47

be concerned but also

34:50

it feels like a really overwhelming time right now

34:52

to be a woman

34:52

country doesn't then i feel like if i'm wrong coming

34:55

at us yeah it's a lot coming out as i

34:57

just want

34:57

mine women we have fought a

34:59

lot of these battles before marriage

35:01

equality happened during our adult

35:04

lives you know and we can

35:06

lose that that we can gain it back to and

35:08

if anything that's awesome

35:10

i'm gonna leave america and their move out i mean

35:13

we , people have been treated much much worse

35:15

didn't leave they stayed they put down there

35:17

in a roots and buckets here and and they built lives

35:20

and so let's , an

35:22

ironic thing also add other than like idea of a book

35:24

coming out and this is something that's completely

35:27

completely unrelated to anything

35:29

we talked about really or even any of the

35:32

work that i do professionally qualified if any boom

35:34

boom and , a memoir about i'm

35:36

food fat and family and that will resonate

35:38

with a lot of women because because lot

35:40

of us have body image issues and i'm

35:42

a lot of unfair expectations from society

35:44

but what we should look like and what we should be like

35:47

and we also love food and so you know

35:49

if so you aren't sure those topics they should check it

35:51

out it's it's available for pre-order right

35:53

now

35:54

also check out robbie as

35:56

berg an podcasts and i'm

35:59

the he said the

35:59

honey just how overwhelming things have been

36:02

because they have been and i think sometimes

36:05

we don't acknowledge that all these things

36:07

coming at us that there are things

36:09

that we can do to help ourselves of self

36:11

care and sometimes it's reading and digesting

36:14

other things to give us a different perspective

36:16

on in i'm making license

36:19

sings that a just such a heavy

36:21

time we

36:23

can make real change and the more

36:25

we articulate and we have these conversations

36:28

i think it empowers and and validate

36:30

that should the people

36:32

feelings who might be feeding very

36:34

alone and a very overwhelmed i know i felt

36:37

like that has what myself care every

36:39

day and the end of is a so much

36:41

coming at us everyday a deal

36:43

day we're the women were raising the

36:46

next generation of men

36:47

you so my son your son

36:49

your son's ladies says look at your sons

36:52

and and you have the power to

36:54

decide with the sex and race of men can be like

36:56

and who they can be and the important

36:58

because before you know adobe adult in charge

37:01

making decisions lot

37:02

absolutely and as i would say some to

37:04

my partner it's what we do not

37:07

necessarily what we say on their kids

37:09

model what you're doing don't millions

37:11

they picked up on everything so yes the next

37:13

generation is so important what

37:15

well can we want for them and

37:18

i want rafi to be a future leader but i

37:20

want him to have empathy and i want him

37:22

to understand other despite foods

37:24

and kathy for other people

37:26

were not just have have his own self interest

37:29

as number one is a huge responsible

37:31

the for us is an effort mom the remaining

37:33

and yes there is some great that's out there too but

37:35

i see you as a a mom and and africa

37:38

and assist warrior

37:39

what you do so i won't say sankey

37:41

for what you do and thank the lord

37:44

i was talking to me thank

37:46

you for having me appreciate it lets could both go

37:48

decompress after the very heavy tossed

37:50

assists the absolutely with thanks so

37:52

much for of yeah you're amazing are

37:54

it's amazing killer listeners go

37:56

check out robbie as work on her instagram

37:59

and twitter

37:59

and check out her birth say thank

38:02

you very much thank you for talking to me

38:04

thanks for a be well

38:07

i'm jumping in here to wrap this two

38:09

part discuss i'm glad

38:11

to get some of that off my chest with robin

38:14

and she felt the same way it was a bit

38:16

light therapy and we wanted to share

38:18

the conversation the calming

38:21

presence isn't see you

38:23

know we women are more powerful

38:25

a more resourceful and we often

38:27

get credit for i'm were almost always

38:30

underestimated women

38:32

must have bodily autonomy were

38:34

not possessions nor we second

38:36

class citizens we birth babies

38:39

we run homes we run businesses

38:42

we raise children are most

38:44

often with a social heartbeat of a

38:46

family we name matter

38:48

we're not just the korea for babies we

38:51

humans and all right right it's

38:53

crazy to have to say this out loud

38:56

those women we endure so

38:58

much a many of us have survived

39:00

so much too the course

39:02

of controlled by men has been

39:04

insane and now it seems

39:06

to have been amped up even more that

39:09

i agree with robin we will

39:11

prevail we will witness

39:13

together that

39:15

sounds like rallying cry doesn't say

39:18

that i guess it is i know

39:20

so many of you feel overwhelmed then

39:23

i too have up myself care so

39:25

please do the same take

39:27

some time for you it also connect

39:29

with others talk to each other support

39:32

each other in power each other

39:34

cities messages on social media

39:37

said these episodes take action

39:39

use your voice use

39:41

your x together

39:44

we the majority raising the

39:46

next generation

39:48

the power is in fact in all hands

39:50

you know feet

39:51

then in our voices

39:54

until next time the curious

39:57

ask questions and always trust

39:59

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