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Hello. Hello and good morning.
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It
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is really nice and
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sunny today. Gabby
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petito social media post. A
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road map of Swords to where the 22
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year-old old was headed. Each post
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each. Stop a clue as
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authorities scoured miles of terrain
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from Utah to Wyoming zeroing
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in. On her final steps. Do
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with reportedly seen, checking out of this
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Fairfield Inn & Suites here in Salt Lake
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City on August 24th. and
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a staff member has confirmed to at
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that the sci and the police were here
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recently asking questions as
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part of their investigation into her disappearance
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the same day gabby was
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reportedly seen checking out of the hotel
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she says timed with her mom saying
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she was leaving utah and heading to the
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grand teton national park that
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means gabby and her fiance brian
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laundry would have been heading north they
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were driving gabby's converted white
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two thousand two thousand word transit van
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with florida plates the planned
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final destination reportedly
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was yellowstone national park on
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august twenty fifth the last post
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on gabby his instagram put her at them monarch
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and arts and entertainment venue
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we found the monarch in the same mural
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posted in gabby his instagram photo
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here in ogden utah us about
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forty miles north of salt lake city
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and about two hundred and sixty miles south
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of the tetons the owner of the monarch
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tells us that the photo gabby
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posted was taken here at
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the monarch he also says he shared
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security camera video with the
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f b i on
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the monarchs facebook page they posted
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these three pictures of gabby potato
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gabby potato venue
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the post reads in part has anyone
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seen it's beautiful woman yeah be potato
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has been missing since late august
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hey lovely listeners and more combative
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crime analyst and the intelligence our
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and dosage and straight back into the case
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for just a heads up listener discretion
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is advised this is a distressing
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case and you may find it triggering
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okay so what did you think about part
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sorry that anything jump
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out that you specifically the
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media was such a big part
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of this case and i'd been reflecting
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again on the last hey some got his instagram
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accounts on the days that they were posted
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who's been thinking a lot about brian's
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instagram account and i'll come back
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to that momentarily having
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rebooted the cabbies instagram
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whilst examining the video footage
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they were actually see post published
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on the twelfth a bogus that's
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the day the van was pulled over by man
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city police no
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details one of the pace in part three
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the twelve august was the arches national
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park post you might
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recall that the twelve august
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was a thursday that this pace
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reference is a monday that they hide the
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delicate arts now remember
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this was the place where there was a significant
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change in the stall tone contents
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and grammar when asked
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about paste another post
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was published the same date
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and it was also g attacked as arches
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national park this
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time seven image these are loaded
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and i want to tell you about them the
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first images of be a tiny
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speck on the side of the burn orange
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colored rocks the arch high
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above her head the blue sky
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stark contrast thing spectacularly
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with the burnt orange rock a
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large bird is captured in flight
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the very dramatic i'm beautiful the
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second phase hey we see gabby again
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on the side of the arts but we can
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see her more clearly in the shop this
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propped up sitting on the side of the art
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wearing short trainers
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and her hair isn't a bomb the
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have her hand up to her brow looking
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away from the arch towards the horizon
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as this is trying to get the sun out
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of her eyes the third
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pizza we see gabby higher up
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on the side of the odds on so she's
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closer to the actual a hot her
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head is time to the side the
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fourth picture is from a distance and
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so we get a much better sense of
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perspective as the art and how see
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the incline is that gabby soon she
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thought assuming along it's in this picture
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the yard is huge and gabby is tiny
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in comparison the bird sits
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atop yards and we can see houses
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and buildings in the distance this
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images of gabby in the same the ocean
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but looking out hands her brow
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again this time she's standing
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six picture is a tie to set of gabby
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and the arch she's standing in
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turn sideways but looking toward
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the arts this time the
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seven photo is a wide shot and
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we get much more perspective as
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gabby is lying on her back against the
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orange robe the bird
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is on top of the arch again and for the first
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time we can really appreciate
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just how steep the side of the arches
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the camera ready except that
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and steepness is mountains and inclines
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but gabby lying against it helps show
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you how steep it is the noticeably
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there's no one else inside
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this is what the caption reads that accompanies
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the sudden texas we
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decided to take the path less traveled
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on the other side of the arch after
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waiting in a short line for some say taste
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onto the arch early monday morning
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we wanted to find a play to relax and draw
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while still admiring the arch the
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do say get away from the crowd that kept
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growing as the day when some we
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would just a little past the arts where
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the rockies it's such an angle it
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appears impossible walk home that
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being such experienced hikers
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i had confidence that i could make it while
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it bizarre underscore design underscore
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climb down some the same with
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the camera she made my way
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along a sin slap narrow line
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that led directly to a big flat
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rock with the absolute most beautiful
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view from directly underneath the art
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after taking a few cool face his of each
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other at bizarre on good design
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underscore and i sat drawing and
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enjoying the nature without seeing
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anybody who was online or taking
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photos it felt like
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we had the entire ought to ourselves
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we got to spend about two hours relaxing
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here on this side of the odds with
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nobody bothering us except this
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the guy who soares and thought he
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could do it too many people
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he spotted us were contemplating
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we made it here shouting things
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like wow you guys must be
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crazy
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one guy started to come in all directions
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talking the same scenario
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way along the raucous i did and
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he got stopped starting fear
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of not knowing where to put his seat to climb
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out at the tsar underscore design
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underscore and i helped him climb
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back to his wife he was laughing hysterically
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giving us a big sums up the
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last the photos you can see
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what i mean by scenario line
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there was no path to the flat rock the sat
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person a level out of the steep angle
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side of was basically a cliff so
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i do not recommend trying this yourself
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good morning a major racket
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rock climbing is dangerous that guy
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we had to help off the edge whacked me with his
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walking stick one i was helping him
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backup players brought his we
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are athletic i'm very experienced fighters
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and the have high confidence the rock climbing
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do not try this at home morning
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a major that bizarre
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underscore design underscore okay
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the pace of really piqued my interest
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as a sewing congruent with all the caps
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and some guppies move suppose
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that made me wonder about whether brian
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was posting on got these instagram account
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here's why firstly it's
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blocked text on a much longer
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posts than others secondly
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the tone and style of the pace to significantly
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different it appears more
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masculine and content for example
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it's referencing competition with others
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how they did something others couldn't and
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he advised not to try this at home because
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they're experienced hikers i
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mean for mean is just a little bit patronising
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and it also shows man energy and
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online gabby thirdly
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there are numerous typos and grammatical
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errors for example appears
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experienced and worked a
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spell wrongly the post
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the right talking rather than taking
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they they should be a capital n for monday
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and a capsule d and a for delicate
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thoughts also brian
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is tagged at least four times
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which seems excessive on hasn't happened
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before my last two
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points from my preliminary analysis
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is that there's an admission of a major he's only
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to a used at the end the hazard
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warning a meiji lastly
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there were no hash tags whatsoever
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now this is a complete break from before
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and it's odd to someone hoping to be a travel
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blogger now i would really want
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to compare it with brian's paste on his instagram
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for his account has been taken down however
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i suspect that i would the similar
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writings the were concentrated
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on instagram as it seems gabby was
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much more active on their however
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there's a tick tock account to a
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nomadic started on it has
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around seventy four thousand followers
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the profile picture brian is
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censored in the photo and gabby
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is in the left hand side of it and they're looking
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at each other the blurb
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read gabby i'm brian the
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sun mit on either side underneath
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it says hi hey hello
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smiley face happy
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to be here the same
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thing keeping to me with kathy's idiot
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let's i know they brian is centered in
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the picture and name's is gabby name
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that appears at the top gaps
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and it's also linked with cabbies instagram
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there are thirteen pace they have been uploaded
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each with their own music bed
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the other images and videos that i've seen
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before i'll start with the final
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post which was uploaded on
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the eighth of august twenty twenty one
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it's a video of gabby and brian in the desert
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with brian talking about his hammock the
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caption reads new you tube video
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haggling him bio
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smiley face the meiji hashtag
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van life has had never stuff
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exploring lots of
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people have commented on it and there are currently
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just under seven the thousand views
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most of the three thousand plus home and
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have been made off the gabby went missing
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looking at the start of the tick tock account
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the first to post say that california
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trip at the beginning of twenty twenty then
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there are three mile pace route twenty twenty
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the abbey with a baby chicks robbie
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i'm brian camping and brian
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picking up an empty water bottle in a river
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and the post reads don't listen
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that's the me the next back together
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his instagram post about littering after
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i got the impression brian may
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have written then there's
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a twenty nine so soon twenty twenty
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paste of gabby happy and
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smiling at the camera dressed in
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a new summer look white tee shirt
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and orange hippie palms he
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seemed so happy and bright and
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she takes a leg out playfully
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in a mirror outside propped up against
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a tree it's cute and playful
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the next pace is caption the hashtag
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reminiscing tag twenty
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twenty hashtag memories
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followed by to a movie stars it
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was uploaded on the first of december
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twenty twenty one a
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polaroid picture is a flick through on
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screens music when you
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click on the caption it reveals more
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text we have
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lots of big plans for this new year
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hash tags stay tuned hashtag
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than light travel yellow hotter
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meiji it
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seems to me that's when the van light
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travel idea took shape and it
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was on the second of july twenty twenty
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one that gabby made her dream a reality
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and they less on their form trip to
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see the national parks across america the
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next based on tick tock was on valentine's
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day twenty twenty one the
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video is a compilation of them both messing
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around together the caption
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reads happy valentine's day the
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to to champagne and the champagne
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bottle immediately time good
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vibes hashtag valentine
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hush tantalum hashtag exile
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exile the next pace
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with pasted on the twenty second of july
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and it's more video footage of gabby
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i'm brian surfing the sand dunes
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set to music image caption
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is the surfing amazed he followed by hashtag
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than light travel hostile travel
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blogger and great sand
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dunes national park an
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outdoor life hashtag fun
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like diaries the
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next five a pace from that time in utah
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which i seen published before they
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gabby preparing the food the many
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places with the ritz mozzarella
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mm camping another post
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on the twenty second of july twenty twenty
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one is of them surfing at the great sand
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dunes national park again and
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on the twenty third of july if there's another
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video posted and this time
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there is some images and flips that i seen
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before but authors few new images that
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hi king and brian preparing some
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food in utah the caption
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reads than to
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coming soon tag
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landline travel hashtag
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travel tick tock hashtag van
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conversion hashtag than life
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hashtag van nuys couple has had
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adventure travel there's
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evidence read more hashtag
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the being used some of which despite
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to six the next
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pace was published on the nineteenth of august
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in utah and the camping images
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again they have been posted on instagram in
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the van and them popping a bottle
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of says hiking and
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also some new views with
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the hash tags hashtag van life
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hashtag than light travel hashtag
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van life and this this
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the only video was posted on there matic
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static you too the last
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post is the one that i've already details
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and the one that i started with evident
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a me is that the style vyvanse
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her in of all the pace and take a look at
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home say the style
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of the captions a consistent across
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caddies tick tock a most of her instagram
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post therefore i
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believe it was gabby pasting them the
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president me that the hashtags to develop
15:14
the and growing in number on tick tock and
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although it appears take top was not got these
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preferred social media platform and
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remember it wasn't as popular
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as it is now as a platform for
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gabby seem to be getting him who were gradually
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posting more and more frequently and
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also adding more hash tags so
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i see a purposes having
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analyze kathy's tick tock account
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confirmed to me that the last six pace
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on instagram will most likely
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not pasted by gabby they
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the burning questions that i have keeping
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an open mind the following one
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is the pace for not posted by gabby
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son who were they posted by who
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whoever it was must have had her sign
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and her password and or possible
15:58
access to has sown and the computer
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three were these posts are played it before
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the please stop a mosque there in the cafe
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on the twelfth of august who
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is this will gabby and brian argued about
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on that day five
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wouldn't brian who pasted them they
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say would i pasted off to the please
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stop by brian as gabby wanted
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to give him controlled due to the arguments
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or did brian just take a for her instagram
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did you take away his enjoy
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the one thing that she enjoyed doing the most
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what's that part of the controlling building
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tension between them where
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they posted by brian off the gabby went
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missing to miss direct a make
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it looked like all was well between them now
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become much more pressing to analyze brian's
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account and see if it's possible to
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say conclusively that his see
16:50
authors the paste i
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often social media whether anyone have
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any screenshots of bronze and
16:57
graham account the several of he replied
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Am I straight away saying that you did
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or you sent me links to material
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that I could use? So a a big
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you. And shout out to Brooke. Lindsay
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Allison, just on the mudroom case
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on the at Laura Peddler
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Associates in particular. Thank
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you so much for sending pictures and links
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and it's from their sources that I'm going to
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comment. But in the meantime, I'm
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going
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the comment on Brian's profile picture.
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I'm by your description on his
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Instagram account. First
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me, his profile picture is of him,
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sitting on top of Gabby's, van on
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the Bayou reads, take
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a hike every day. Green Leaf
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Emoji bug bites. The best
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of
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them being brainwashed by the media Green
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Leaf Emoji. Nature
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Enthusiast Green
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Leaf Emoji taking on
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the hashtag van life with
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gaps, petito www.ditech.com.
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com From my initial analysis
17:56
of Brian's account, is evident
17:59
to me that. that bro love hiking the
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he was the access on he liked to be
18:03
in nature
18:05
the brian these are the most important
18:07
things to share with the world about himself
18:10
along with the fact that he had a negative
18:12
view of the media
18:13
which is ironic as he was using
18:15
it to chart his family
18:18
also the irony is not lost on me that
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the media and social media specifically
18:23
played such a big role in this case
18:26
when trying to find both gabby and brian
18:29
i also want to share with you the brian's last
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post on his account was dated
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the thirteenth of august and it
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was geo tagged as moab utah
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again i can see
18:40
that this data significant from
18:42
gabby social media the a
18:45
now from brian sorry
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if i knew nothing else about hey
18:49
some what happened from my analysis
18:51
of both the instagram accounts i would
18:53
know a significant event happened
18:56
on or just before the thirteenth
18:58
of august
18:59
the to say why i knew that the please
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stop with very significant
19:03
in basis their lives
19:05
i have much more to say and
19:07
i'm going to say my analysis would be very soon
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and it's fascinating
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okay full disclosure the when
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i initially read the pace in september twenty
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twenty one i instinctively believe
19:19
that it was brian posting on daddy's
19:21
instagram in an attempt to
19:23
misdirect however
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you cannot pace retroactively
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and change the date of the post on instagram
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you can edit change the captions
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on the pace
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importantly as i said before
19:38
these last post have been edited
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i'm going to say more about that when i my
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comparison analysis now
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i want to pivot and turn my into
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the police this was
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a significant events for me an
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event ended the to the all with
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indeed not well now
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a couple of things before i get into it
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firstly our focus on the most significant
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aspects regarding behavior and language
20:05
that i see and here in the video
20:07
bear in mind that the footage is one
20:10
hour and seventeen minutes long
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we say just a reminder the listener
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discretion is advised as i'm
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going to share various segments to help
20:19
explain what i saw when i analyze
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the police body warm camera footage
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Now, if you want to follow a long, you can watch
20:25
the full footage is available on YouTube
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and fight. There were two versions
20:30
because they were too, but he won't cameras,
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but I'm going to speak to the first
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of Pig on you the 16th
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of September 2021. now
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it was posted by fox thirteen
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tampa bay the header read
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gabby petit a full body
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camera video
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the blurb reads school
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videos from the map city police department
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shows officers investigating an incident
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between gabby potato and her boyfriend
20:59
brian laundry he has since
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been reported missing
21:03
heinlein wise move city
21:05
police department record on august twelve
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twenty twenty one less than a month
21:09
before gabby so many reported her missing
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importantly it was not gabby
21:14
o'brien who called the police but
21:17
two witnesses who saw an assault
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this is what one of the witnesses
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said we
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drove by and the gentleman was slapping
21:26
the girl then we stopped
21:28
they ran up and down the sidewalk he
21:31
proceeded to hit her hopes
21:33
in the car and they drive off it's
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important to remember case
21:40
of first i want you to hear this sort of
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the initial stop
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driver is a sign some obscure
21:49
driving us went on stated
21:55
currently doing
21:57
forty five miles an hour the
22:00
to hear his voice have such
22:03
access to the curb even
22:10
and fifteen i'm
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about three quarters of a mile and to the
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artist just before the gate are
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you on your eyes are beautiful and apart
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and guidance and about forty two parts
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okay this okay this surgery
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and and go ahead and sector keys on
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the desk one what's
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you guys' names gabby
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, okay okay going on
22:58
inside and
23:05
you weren't a revered surfing expands
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have been caught up
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on sorry i'm sorry
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i'm attacking him some guys am
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sorry
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can i get you to step out of the vehicle for me now yeah
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just , tight right there i'm do you mind
23:22
if i take your keys and just put them on their hood i'm
23:25
still thinking oh no you're fine
23:33
right click on
23:35
smallville
23:42
i thought it would i am i've had the smell
23:44
them and it is separated from
23:46
a male he's on the hood one
23:49
, on that's how
23:51
it very bad everything he and his
23:55
own cleaning and
24:00
mm or another holiday the
24:02
same and things inside and
24:04
and so mean sometimes
24:06
i have only be offended if a perfect
24:09
moment and i did
24:12
i get my ,
24:15
place i will be her here in
24:17
a bad mood mood
24:19
sorry about the about server
24:22
head home and work out during a like a a
24:24
mind that it disputed it is why
24:27
i forget it to spark
24:30
and i both of
24:32
our journey i am
24:35
i said travel president country
24:38
and fine had heard of on
24:42
modify the building our faith
24:47
like riding a visa hennepin
24:49
by good are you going
24:52
i dunno i dunno rather than vital morning
24:54
and anyone else in
24:56
the car before vinegar
25:02
now i'm
25:04
, because of all time
25:07
and he really is it's own
25:09
and
25:12
rough morning
25:15
the responding police officer is daniel
25:17
scott robbins the he says
25:19
the driver is showing some obscure driving
25:22
possibly intoxicated currently
25:25
doing forty five miles per hour the
25:28
through here is twenty five oh
25:30
subject just hit the curb the
25:33
foreign thing go and he says correction
25:35
speed limits is sixteen the
25:38
pulled over and get thought his cynical
25:41
the approaches the van from the passenger side
25:43
door gabby is clearly distressed
25:45
i'm rose the window down saying i'm
25:48
story i i
25:50
the cops are often toes brian to put the
25:52
vehicle winter parking and she's
25:54
on the dash what's
25:56
your name how come you crying
25:59
he the the audiences
26:02
we just been fighting this morning some
26:05
personal issues brian
26:08
cut her off and take saver the
26:11
question wasn't directed to
26:13
brian but other than stop brian
26:16
from interjecting coughing
26:18
gabby off he doesn't
26:20
want her to say more that's
26:22
a red flag prime continues
26:25
saying that they had been temping yesterday and
26:27
he says he's sorry he hit the bomb
26:30
gabby apologizes again she says source
26:34
distracting him and him can see
26:36
she's taking her q from brian
26:39
the officer then oscar the to step up the vehicle
26:42
these are the earth and stands outside
26:44
polite and awaiting further instruction
26:47
the acquiesce is to the officer and
26:49
she appears nervous and she's still
26:51
crying the here my
26:54
him russian is that the officer understands
26:56
that there's a dynamic between gabby and brian
26:58
on that's why he separates gabby
27:01
it's good practice to do this in all
27:03
domestic violence call out the
27:05
notice i'm not saying domestic violence incident
27:08
the thing cool out the notice
27:10
just how polite gabby is too
27:14
robinson says why didn't you come over here
27:16
just stirring away from the van a lead
27:18
her closer to his patrols is cool
27:21
the author to tell him what's going on
27:24
noticeably for me he has a good tone
27:27
some kind and compassionate as
27:29
it is genuinely interested i'm
27:31
pretty vaccines his tone and his language
27:34
i believe he does really want to understand
27:36
what's going on the he sense
27:38
there's more to this
27:40
no there's a lot of road noise in the background
27:43
i can hear gabby sniffling and
27:45
still trying to calm herself down
27:47
the trying to regulate her breathing
27:50
which indicates to me that she's been very
27:52
upset but she's also clearly
27:54
visibly upset soon
27:56
he doesn't know what to do with her hands she
27:59
puts them in her shoe
28:00
okay then takes them out then
28:02
she bends over almost folding eyes
28:04
are on herself
28:05
and she crying and she says yes
28:08
no i don't know
28:10
then she starts pulling back her hair and
28:13
breathes deeply while saying
28:15
is just some days i have really
28:17
bad a c d her
28:19
voice jumps a couple of up to have says she
28:21
puts both hands to her heart a
28:23
she's speaking
28:25
now this points to censor city
28:28
the hands to the hall she's speaking from
28:30
the heart and she continues i
28:33
was just cleaning and straightening out when
28:35
i was apologizing to him and saying
28:38
i'm sorry i'm so mean
28:40
because sometimes i have a cd and
28:42
i do get really frustrated not
28:45
might mean and horrid to him i just
28:47
slide my guy
28:49
this you know like
28:52
a bad mood and i was just
28:54
really stressed i had
28:56
so much work to do on my computer
28:58
this morning okay
29:01
for breaking it down yeah be was
29:03
in flew here there was no filter
29:06
i'm thirty now the case is an important
29:08
one or more jumps out immediately
29:10
for me is certainly the continuous
29:13
apologizing to the officer and her
29:15
general demeanor of politeness
29:18
certainly she then right apologizing
29:21
to brian thirdly she's
29:23
claiming responsibility for
29:25
this all her and she talks about
29:27
a c d her obsessive compulsive
29:29
disorder which by the way she wasn't
29:31
diagnosed with the clearly
29:33
like things tidy and in ice but
29:35
that's not a cd the
29:38
say she put yourself down about being
29:40
mean and she said that she stressed
29:43
to to work on her computer that
29:45
was what she was focused and
29:48
the no say just to say
29:50
this is a very different gabby to
29:52
all the posts on social media the
29:55
happy go lucky bright smile
29:57
gabby and she's clearly very
29:59
distressed
30:00
significantly some me she positions
30:02
herself as the problem
30:05
the when i compare this with gabby the
30:07
smiley happy fbi be gabby on
30:09
social media that clearly
30:11
two very different versions of her
30:13
that is apparent to me that
30:15
she's smart an eloquent
30:18
an issue so acquiesce is to authority
30:21
and for men he's not fat
30:23
but she's explaining and taking responsibility
30:26
and being polite all the wall
30:29
even though she's upset she still explaining
30:32
everything in detail on she's still
30:34
taking responsibility and being
30:37
polite the not
30:39
being arguments
30:40
the board difficult a nice also
30:42
very important in terms of my observation
30:45
now the reforms officer officer robbins
30:48
then in jackson what he does for
30:50
anything and she answers
30:53
i used to work in an organic our
30:55
but i quit my job i was a nutritionist
30:59
i quit my job to travel across the country
31:01
and i'm trying to start a blog
31:03
the travel blog saw team building my
31:05
website and i've been highly stressed
31:08
and he doesn't really believe that i can do
31:10
any of it i'm not here my guess
31:13
then we been fighting or morning no
31:16
for me that's an important disclosure
31:19
i've been highly stressed and he doesn't really believe
31:21
i can do any of it
31:24
noticeably she sounds more upset
31:26
when referring to the i would have
31:28
ask more questions at this point this
31:30
is my slightly what they were arguing about
31:33
he was working hard doing the website he
31:35
didn't like her attention being on that and
31:37
wanted to go hiking and he was
31:40
undermining her by putting her down
31:42
and saying he had no confidence in her that's
31:45
a big blow the person who supposed
31:47
to love you saying that rather than listing
31:50
you op said putting you down
31:53
when she goes on and says he wouldn't
31:55
let me in the car he told me
31:57
i had to calm down i'm
32:00
for be calm and he really stresses
32:02
me out well i
32:04
thought into this hey said it's cabbies
32:06
fun and so he's denying her access
32:08
to her own vehicle no
32:10
is she had been drinking i might
32:13
understand it more she was
32:16
he just didn't want her going in her own son
32:19
my experience saying calm down to
32:21
someone who's already upset with that
32:23
tends to escalate things and upset
32:25
a person further
32:27
those are the patronizing to
32:29
and devoid of compassion
32:32
gabby said brian really stressed
32:34
around then he sums it up
32:36
with this is a rough morning
32:39
the officer then says he'll sit her down
32:41
in the back seat of his patrol car and
32:43
he coffee and by saying this is not
32:45
in trouble and should be in the air con
32:48
she can take a breath and he come back
32:50
to his shortly
32:51
that we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that that's
32:53
where detain suspects place
32:56
not just behind gabby the officer
32:59
has shown up at the scene the
33:01
time is sixteen forty eight on the tools
33:03
of august twenty twenty one it's
33:06
debated officer who we now know to
33:08
be eric pratt of the mob city
33:10
police department he gets out
33:12
of his
33:12
the croquet cool and he walks around behind
33:15
gabby and he looks at the officer he's
33:17
talking to her robbins
33:19
will say that i'm brian having sit
33:21
gabby in his car the park
33:24
rangers who surprised at the scene
33:26
and he's talking with brian three the passenger
33:28
window as divine brian
33:30
cranes his neck to see officer
33:33
robbins and says utah
33:35
to gabrielle rate the
33:37
me he appears nervous then
33:40
asked to step out of the vehicle which
33:42
he does
33:43
the me brian asking about gabby
33:46
is codify language and roughly
33:48
translates as what did she
33:50
tell you
33:51
he's trying to see if the officer with say
33:54
on he's nervous about what she might have
33:56
said why does
33:58
he want to know the nothing
34:00
wrong and nothing has happened why
34:02
is he nervous and trying to find out what she said
34:06
this is a red flag however it's
34:08
missed and instead of asking him
34:10
is as something you want to tell us the
34:12
officer states you're not in any
34:14
trouble right now and he then says
34:17
what's going on unfortunately
34:19
that's a missed opportunity right there
34:22
this is what brine replies manuel
34:27
and on a coward
34:30
summing up on it
34:33
worked up over harm right very religious
34:35
myself
34:36
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34:38
ruin whatever reporting is that she's starting
34:40
to set a target on love as a fog and everything
34:43
so are you everytime we
34:45
, had a nice morning and then anything that
34:47
i'm just gonna work the
34:49
whole her partner they're gonna get
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a dog ago i
34:53
, on the other or
34:56
something but that's one doesn't fit in so
34:58
vulgar and that miles per hour away
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i right one of
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