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The Murder of Gabby Petito, Part 4

The Murder of Gabby Petito, Part 4

Released Tuesday, 31st May 2022
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The Murder of Gabby Petito, Part 4

Tuesday, 31st May 2022
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0:00

Hello. Hello and good morning.

0:02

It

0:04

is really nice and

0:06

sunny today. Gabby

0:08

petito social media post. A

0:10

road map of Swords to where the 22

0:12

year-old old was headed. Each post

0:14

each. Stop a clue as

0:16

authorities scoured miles of terrain

0:18

from Utah to Wyoming zeroing

0:21

in. On her final steps. Do

0:24

with reportedly seen, checking out of this

0:26

Fairfield Inn & Suites here in Salt Lake

0:28

City on August 24th. and

0:30

a staff member has confirmed to at

0:33

that the sci and the police were here

0:35

recently asking questions as

0:37

part of their investigation into her disappearance

0:40

the same day gabby was

0:42

reportedly seen checking out of the hotel

0:45

she says timed with her mom saying

0:47

she was leaving utah and heading to the

0:49

grand teton national park that

0:51

means gabby and her fiance brian

0:54

laundry would have been heading north they

0:56

were driving gabby's converted white

0:58

two thousand two thousand word transit van

1:00

with florida plates the planned

1:03

final destination reportedly

1:05

was yellowstone national park on

1:08

august twenty fifth the last post

1:10

on gabby his instagram put her at them monarch

1:12

and arts and entertainment venue

1:14

we found the monarch in the same mural

1:16

posted in gabby his instagram photo

1:18

here in ogden utah us about

1:21

forty miles north of salt lake city

1:23

and about two hundred and sixty miles south

1:25

of the tetons the owner of the monarch

1:27

tells us that the photo gabby

1:30

posted was taken here at

1:32

the monarch he also says he shared

1:34

security camera video with the

1:36

f b i on

1:38

the monarchs facebook page they posted

1:40

these three pictures of gabby potato

1:42

gabby potato venue

1:43

the post reads in part has anyone

1:45

seen it's beautiful woman yeah be potato

1:48

has been missing since late august

2:00

hey lovely listeners and more combative

2:02

crime analyst and the intelligence our

2:04

and dosage and straight back into the case

2:07

for just a heads up listener discretion

2:09

is advised this is a distressing

2:11

case and you may find it triggering

2:15

okay so what did you think about part

2:17

sorry that anything jump

2:19

out that you specifically the

2:23

media was such a big part

2:25

of this case and i'd been reflecting

2:27

again on the last hey some got his instagram

2:30

accounts on the days that they were posted

2:33

who's been thinking a lot about brian's

2:35

instagram account and i'll come back

2:37

to that momentarily having

2:40

rebooted the cabbies instagram

2:42

whilst examining the video footage

2:44

they were actually see post published

2:46

on the twelfth a bogus that's

2:49

the day the van was pulled over by man

2:51

city police no

2:53

details one of the pace in part three

2:56

the twelve august was the arches national

2:58

park post you might

3:00

recall that the twelve august

3:02

was a thursday that this pace

3:05

reference is a monday that they hide the

3:07

delicate arts now remember

3:09

this was the place where there was a significant

3:11

change in the stall tone contents

3:14

and grammar when asked

3:16

about paste another post

3:18

was published the same date

3:20

and it was also g attacked as arches

3:22

national park this

3:24

time seven image these are loaded

3:27

and i want to tell you about them the

3:29

first images of be a tiny

3:31

speck on the side of the burn orange

3:34

colored rocks the arch high

3:36

above her head the blue sky

3:38

stark contrast thing spectacularly

3:41

with the burnt orange rock a

3:43

large bird is captured in flight

3:46

the very dramatic i'm beautiful the

3:49

second phase hey we see gabby again

3:51

on the side of the arts but we can

3:53

see her more clearly in the shop this

3:56

propped up sitting on the side of the art

3:59

wearing short trainers

4:01

and her hair isn't a bomb the

4:04

have her hand up to her brow looking

4:06

away from the arch towards the horizon

4:09

as this is trying to get the sun out

4:11

of her eyes the third

4:13

pizza we see gabby higher up

4:16

on the side of the odds on so she's

4:18

closer to the actual a hot her

4:20

head is time to the side the

4:23

fourth picture is from a distance and

4:25

so we get a much better sense of

4:27

perspective as the art and how see

4:29

the incline is that gabby soon she

4:32

thought assuming along it's in this picture

4:35

the yard is huge and gabby is tiny

4:37

in comparison the bird sits

4:39

atop yards and we can see houses

4:42

and buildings in the distance this

4:45

images of gabby in the same the ocean

4:47

but looking out hands her brow

4:49

again this time she's standing

4:53

six picture is a tie to set of gabby

4:55

and the arch she's standing in

4:57

turn sideways but looking toward

4:59

the arts this time the

5:02

seven photo is a wide shot and

5:04

we get much more perspective as

5:06

gabby is lying on her back against the

5:08

orange robe the bird

5:10

is on top of the arch again and for the first

5:13

time we can really appreciate

5:15

just how steep the side of the arches

5:18

the camera ready except that

5:20

and steepness is mountains and inclines

5:23

but gabby lying against it helps show

5:25

you how steep it is the noticeably

5:28

there's no one else inside

5:30

this is what the caption reads that accompanies

5:32

the sudden texas we

5:35

decided to take the path less traveled

5:37

on the other side of the arch after

5:40

waiting in a short line for some say taste

5:42

onto the arch early monday morning

5:44

we wanted to find a play to relax and draw

5:47

while still admiring the arch the

5:50

do say get away from the crowd that kept

5:52

growing as the day when some we

5:54

would just a little past the arts where

5:56

the rockies it's such an angle it

5:58

appears impossible walk home that

6:01

being such experienced hikers

6:04

i had confidence that i could make it while

6:06

it bizarre underscore design underscore

6:09

climb down some the same with

6:12

the camera she made my way

6:14

along a sin slap narrow line

6:16

that led directly to a big flat

6:18

rock with the absolute most beautiful

6:20

view from directly underneath the art

6:23

after taking a few cool face his of each

6:26

other at bizarre on good design

6:28

underscore and i sat drawing and

6:30

enjoying the nature without seeing

6:32

anybody who was online or taking

6:34

photos it felt like

6:37

we had the entire ought to ourselves

6:40

we got to spend about two hours relaxing

6:42

here on this side of the odds with

6:44

nobody bothering us except this

6:47

the guy who soares and thought he

6:49

could do it too many people

6:51

he spotted us were contemplating

6:53

we made it here shouting things

6:56

like wow you guys must be

6:58

crazy

6:59

one guy started to come in all directions

7:02

talking the same scenario

7:04

way along the raucous i did and

7:06

he got stopped starting fear

7:08

of not knowing where to put his seat to climb

7:10

out at the tsar underscore design

7:12

underscore and i helped him climb

7:14

back to his wife he was laughing hysterically

7:17

giving us a big sums up the

7:20

last the photos you can see

7:22

what i mean by scenario line

7:25

there was no path to the flat rock the sat

7:27

person a level out of the steep angle

7:30

side of was basically a cliff so

7:32

i do not recommend trying this yourself

7:35

good morning a major racket

7:37

rock climbing is dangerous that guy

7:39

we had to help off the edge whacked me with his

7:41

walking stick one i was helping him

7:43

backup players brought his we

7:46

are athletic i'm very experienced fighters

7:48

and the have high confidence the rock climbing

7:51

do not try this at home morning

7:54

a major that bizarre

7:56

underscore design underscore okay

8:00

the pace of really piqued my interest

8:02

as a sewing congruent with all the caps

8:04

and some guppies move suppose

8:07

that made me wonder about whether brian

8:09

was posting on got these instagram account

8:12

here's why firstly it's

8:14

blocked text on a much longer

8:16

posts than others secondly

8:19

the tone and style of the pace to significantly

8:21

different it appears more

8:23

masculine and content for example

8:26

it's referencing competition with others

8:28

how they did something others couldn't and

8:30

he advised not to try this at home because

8:32

they're experienced hikers i

8:35

mean for mean is just a little bit patronising

8:37

and it also shows man energy and

8:40

online gabby thirdly

8:42

there are numerous typos and grammatical

8:45

errors for example appears

8:48

experienced and worked a

8:50

spell wrongly the post

8:52

the right talking rather than taking

8:55

they they should be a capital n for monday

8:57

and a capsule d and a for delicate

8:59

thoughts also brian

9:02

is tagged at least four times

9:04

which seems excessive on hasn't happened

9:06

before my last two

9:08

points from my preliminary analysis

9:11

is that there's an admission of a major he's only

9:13

to a used at the end the hazard

9:15

warning a meiji lastly

9:18

there were no hash tags whatsoever

9:21

now this is a complete break from before

9:23

and it's odd to someone hoping to be a travel

9:25

blogger now i would really want

9:27

to compare it with brian's paste on his instagram

9:30

for his account has been taken down however

9:33

i suspect that i would the similar

9:35

writings the were concentrated

9:38

on instagram as it seems gabby was

9:40

much more active on their however

9:42

there's a tick tock account to a

9:45

nomadic started on it has

9:47

around seventy four thousand followers

9:51

the profile picture brian is

9:53

censored in the photo and gabby

9:55

is in the left hand side of it and they're looking

9:57

at each other the blurb

9:59

read gabby i'm brian the

10:02

sun mit on either side underneath

10:05

it says hi hey hello

10:07

smiley face happy

10:09

to be here the same

10:12

thing keeping to me with kathy's idiot

10:14

let's i know they brian is centered in

10:16

the picture and name's is gabby name

10:18

that appears at the top gaps

10:21

and it's also linked with cabbies instagram

10:24

there are thirteen pace they have been uploaded

10:27

each with their own music bed

10:29

the other images and videos that i've seen

10:31

before i'll start with the final

10:34

post which was uploaded on

10:36

the eighth of august twenty twenty one

10:39

it's a video of gabby and brian in the desert

10:41

with brian talking about his hammock the

10:44

caption reads new you tube video

10:47

haggling him bio

10:49

smiley face the meiji hashtag

10:51

van life has had never stuff

10:54

exploring lots of

10:56

people have commented on it and there are currently

10:58

just under seven the thousand views

11:01

most of the three thousand plus home and

11:04

have been made off the gabby went missing

11:07

looking at the start of the tick tock account

11:09

the first to post say that california

11:11

trip at the beginning of twenty twenty then

11:14

there are three mile pace route twenty twenty

11:17

the abbey with a baby chicks robbie

11:19

i'm brian camping and brian

11:21

picking up an empty water bottle in a river

11:24

and the post reads don't listen

11:28

that's the me the next back together

11:30

his instagram post about littering after

11:33

i got the impression brian may

11:35

have written then there's

11:37

a twenty nine so soon twenty twenty

11:39

paste of gabby happy and

11:41

smiling at the camera dressed in

11:43

a new summer look white tee shirt

11:46

and orange hippie palms he

11:48

seemed so happy and bright and

11:50

she takes a leg out playfully

11:52

in a mirror outside propped up against

11:55

a tree it's cute and playful

11:58

the next pace is caption the hashtag

12:00

reminiscing tag twenty

12:03

twenty hashtag memories

12:05

followed by to a movie stars it

12:08

was uploaded on the first of december

12:10

twenty twenty one a

12:12

polaroid picture is a flick through on

12:14

screens music when you

12:16

click on the caption it reveals more

12:19

text we have

12:21

lots of big plans for this new year

12:23

hash tags stay tuned hashtag

12:26

than light travel yellow hotter

12:28

meiji it

12:30

seems to me that's when the van light

12:32

travel idea took shape and it

12:35

was on the second of july twenty twenty

12:37

one that gabby made her dream a reality

12:39

and they less on their form trip to

12:42

see the national parks across america the

12:44

next based on tick tock was on valentine's

12:47

day twenty twenty one the

12:49

video is a compilation of them both messing

12:51

around together the caption

12:53

reads happy valentine's day the

12:56

to to champagne and the champagne

12:58

bottle immediately time good

13:00

vibes hashtag valentine

13:02

hush tantalum hashtag exile

13:05

exile the next pace

13:07

with pasted on the twenty second of july

13:10

and it's more video footage of gabby

13:12

i'm brian surfing the sand dunes

13:14

set to music image caption

13:17

is the surfing amazed he followed by hashtag

13:19

than light travel hostile travel

13:22

blogger and great sand

13:24

dunes national park an

13:26

outdoor life hashtag fun

13:28

like diaries the

13:30

next five a pace from that time in utah

13:33

which i seen published before they

13:36

gabby preparing the food the many

13:38

places with the ritz mozzarella

13:41

mm camping another post

13:43

on the twenty second of july twenty twenty

13:45

one is of them surfing at the great sand

13:48

dunes national park again and

13:50

on the twenty third of july if there's another

13:52

video posted and this time

13:54

there is some images and flips that i seen

13:57

before but authors few new images that

13:59

hi king and brian preparing some

14:01

food in utah the caption

14:04

reads than to

14:06

coming soon tag

14:08

landline travel hashtag

14:10

travel tick tock hashtag van

14:12

conversion hashtag than life

14:15

hashtag van nuys couple has had

14:17

adventure travel there's

14:19

evidence read more hashtag

14:21

the being used some of which despite

14:24

to six the next

14:26

pace was published on the nineteenth of august

14:28

in utah and the camping images

14:30

again they have been posted on instagram in

14:32

the van and them popping a bottle

14:34

of says hiking and

14:36

also some new views with

14:39

the hash tags hashtag van life

14:41

hashtag than light travel hashtag

14:44

van life and this this

14:46

the only video was posted on there matic

14:48

static you too the last

14:51

post is the one that i've already details

14:53

and the one that i started with evident

14:56

a me is that the style vyvanse

14:58

her in of all the pace and take a look at

15:00

home say the style

15:02

of the captions a consistent across

15:04

caddies tick tock a most of her instagram

15:07

post therefore i

15:09

believe it was gabby pasting them the

15:11

president me that the hashtags to develop

15:14

the and growing in number on tick tock and

15:16

although it appears take top was not got these

15:18

preferred social media platform and

15:20

remember it wasn't as popular

15:23

as it is now as a platform for

15:25

gabby seem to be getting him who were gradually

15:27

posting more and more frequently and

15:30

also adding more hash tags so

15:32

i see a purposes having

15:34

analyze kathy's tick tock account

15:36

confirmed to me that the last six pace

15:39

on instagram will most likely

15:41

not pasted by gabby they

15:43

the burning questions that i have keeping

15:45

an open mind the following one

15:48

is the pace for not posted by gabby

15:50

son who were they posted by who

15:53

whoever it was must have had her sign

15:56

and her password and or possible

15:58

access to has sown and the computer

16:02

three were these posts are played it before

16:04

the please stop a mosque there in the cafe

16:07

on the twelfth of august who

16:10

is this will gabby and brian argued about

16:12

on that day five

16:14

wouldn't brian who pasted them they

16:17

say would i pasted off to the please

16:19

stop by brian as gabby wanted

16:21

to give him controlled due to the arguments

16:23

or did brian just take a for her instagram

16:27

did you take away his enjoy

16:29

the one thing that she enjoyed doing the most

16:32

what's that part of the controlling building

16:34

tension between them where

16:36

they posted by brian off the gabby went

16:39

missing to miss direct a make

16:41

it looked like all was well between them now

16:44

become much more pressing to analyze brian's

16:46

account and see if it's possible to

16:48

say conclusively that his see

16:50

authors the paste i

16:52

often social media whether anyone have

16:55

any screenshots of bronze and

16:57

graham account the several of he replied

17:00

Am I straight away saying that you did

17:02

or you sent me links to material

17:04

that I could use? So a a big

17:07

you. And shout out to Brooke. Lindsay

17:09

Allison, just on the mudroom case

17:11

on the at Laura Peddler

17:12

Associates in particular. Thank

17:14

you so much for sending pictures and links

17:17

and it's from their sources that I'm going to

17:19

comment. But in the meantime, I'm

17:22

going

17:22

the comment on Brian's profile picture.

17:24

I'm by your description on his

17:26

Instagram account. First

17:28

me, his profile picture is of him,

17:31

sitting on top of Gabby's, van on

17:33

the Bayou reads, take

17:35

a hike every day. Green Leaf

17:37

Emoji bug bites. The best

17:39

of

17:39

them being brainwashed by the media Green

17:41

Leaf Emoji. Nature

17:43

Enthusiast Green

17:45

Leaf Emoji taking on

17:47

the hashtag van life with

17:49

gaps, petito www.ditech.com.

17:54

com From my initial analysis

17:56

of Brian's account, is evident

17:59

to me that. that bro love hiking the

18:01

he was the access on he liked to be

18:03

in nature

18:05

the brian these are the most important

18:07

things to share with the world about himself

18:10

along with the fact that he had a negative

18:12

view of the media

18:13

which is ironic as he was using

18:15

it to chart his family

18:18

also the irony is not lost on me that

18:20

the media and social media specifically

18:23

played such a big role in this case

18:26

when trying to find both gabby and brian

18:29

i also want to share with you the brian's last

18:31

post on his account was dated

18:33

the thirteenth of august and it

18:35

was geo tagged as moab utah

18:38

again i can see

18:40

that this data significant from

18:42

gabby social media the a

18:45

now from brian sorry

18:47

if i knew nothing else about hey

18:49

some what happened from my analysis

18:51

of both the instagram accounts i would

18:53

know a significant event happened

18:56

on or just before the thirteenth

18:58

of august

18:59

the to say why i knew that the please

19:01

stop with very significant

19:03

in basis their lives

19:05

i have much more to say and

19:07

i'm going to say my analysis would be very soon

19:10

and it's fascinating

19:12

okay full disclosure the when

19:14

i initially read the pace in september twenty

19:16

twenty one i instinctively believe

19:19

that it was brian posting on daddy's

19:21

instagram in an attempt to

19:23

misdirect however

19:25

you cannot pace retroactively

19:28

and change the date of the post on instagram

19:31

you can edit change the captions

19:33

on the pace

19:35

importantly as i said before

19:38

these last post have been edited

19:41

i'm going to say more about that when i my

19:44

comparison analysis now

19:47

i want to pivot and turn my into

19:49

the police this was

19:51

a significant events for me an

19:53

event ended the to the all with

19:55

indeed not well now

19:58

a couple of things before i get into it

20:00

firstly our focus on the most significant

20:02

aspects regarding behavior and language

20:05

that i see and here in the video

20:07

bear in mind that the footage is one

20:10

hour and seventeen minutes long

20:12

we say just a reminder the listener

20:14

discretion is advised as i'm

20:16

going to share various segments to help

20:19

explain what i saw when i analyze

20:21

the police body warm camera footage

20:23

Now, if you want to follow a long, you can watch

20:25

the full footage is available on YouTube

20:28

and fight. There were two versions

20:30

because they were too, but he won't cameras,

20:32

but I'm going to speak to the first

20:34

of Pig on you the 16th

20:37

of September 2021. now

20:40

it was posted by fox thirteen

20:42

tampa bay the header read

20:45

gabby petit a full body

20:47

camera video

20:49

the blurb reads school

20:51

videos from the map city police department

20:54

shows officers investigating an incident

20:56

between gabby potato and her boyfriend

20:59

brian laundry he has since

21:01

been reported missing

21:03

heinlein wise move city

21:05

police department record on august twelve

21:07

twenty twenty one less than a month

21:09

before gabby so many reported her missing

21:12

importantly it was not gabby

21:14

o'brien who called the police but

21:17

two witnesses who saw an assault

21:19

this is what one of the witnesses

21:21

said we

21:24

drove by and the gentleman was slapping

21:26

the girl then we stopped

21:28

they ran up and down the sidewalk he

21:31

proceeded to hit her hopes

21:33

in the car and they drive off it's

21:37

important to remember case

21:40

of first i want you to hear this sort of

21:42

the initial stop

21:47

driver is a sign some obscure

21:49

driving us went on stated

21:55

currently doing

21:57

forty five miles an hour the

22:00

to hear his voice have such

22:03

access to the curb even

22:10

and fifteen i'm

22:14

about three quarters of a mile and to the

22:16

artist just before the gate are

22:40

you on your eyes are beautiful and apart

22:42

and guidance and about forty two parts

22:47

okay this okay this surgery

22:49

and and go ahead and sector keys on

22:51

the desk one what's

22:53

you guys' names gabby

22:56

, okay okay going on

22:58

inside and

23:05

you weren't a revered surfing expands

23:07

have been caught up

23:09

on sorry i'm sorry

23:13

i'm attacking him some guys am

23:15

sorry

23:16

can i get you to step out of the vehicle for me now yeah

23:19

just , tight right there i'm do you mind

23:22

if i take your keys and just put them on their hood i'm

23:25

still thinking oh no you're fine

23:33

right click on

23:35

smallville

23:42

i thought it would i am i've had the smell

23:44

them and it is separated from

23:46

a male he's on the hood one

23:49

, on that's how

23:51

it very bad everything he and his

23:55

own cleaning and

24:00

mm or another holiday the

24:02

same and things inside and

24:04

and so mean sometimes

24:06

i have only be offended if a perfect

24:09

moment and i did

24:12

i get my ,

24:15

place i will be her here in

24:17

a bad mood mood

24:19

sorry about the about server

24:22

head home and work out during a like a a

24:24

mind that it disputed it is why

24:27

i forget it to spark

24:30

and i both of

24:32

our journey i am

24:35

i said travel president country

24:38

and fine had heard of on

24:42

modify the building our faith

24:47

like riding a visa hennepin

24:49

by good are you going

24:52

i dunno i dunno rather than vital morning

24:54

and anyone else in

24:56

the car before vinegar

25:02

now i'm

25:04

, because of all time

25:07

and he really is it's own

25:09

and

25:12

rough morning

25:15

the responding police officer is daniel

25:17

scott robbins the he says

25:19

the driver is showing some obscure driving

25:22

possibly intoxicated currently

25:25

doing forty five miles per hour the

25:28

through here is twenty five oh

25:30

subject just hit the curb the

25:33

foreign thing go and he says correction

25:35

speed limits is sixteen the

25:38

pulled over and get thought his cynical

25:41

the approaches the van from the passenger side

25:43

door gabby is clearly distressed

25:45

i'm rose the window down saying i'm

25:48

story i i

25:50

the cops are often toes brian to put the

25:52

vehicle winter parking and she's

25:54

on the dash what's

25:56

your name how come you crying

25:59

he the the audiences

26:02

we just been fighting this morning some

26:05

personal issues brian

26:08

cut her off and take saver the

26:11

question wasn't directed to

26:13

brian but other than stop brian

26:16

from interjecting coughing

26:18

gabby off he doesn't

26:20

want her to say more that's

26:22

a red flag prime continues

26:25

saying that they had been temping yesterday and

26:27

he says he's sorry he hit the bomb

26:30

gabby apologizes again she says source

26:34

distracting him and him can see

26:36

she's taking her q from brian

26:39

the officer then oscar the to step up the vehicle

26:42

these are the earth and stands outside

26:44

polite and awaiting further instruction

26:47

the acquiesce is to the officer and

26:49

she appears nervous and she's still

26:51

crying the here my

26:54

him russian is that the officer understands

26:56

that there's a dynamic between gabby and brian

26:58

on that's why he separates gabby

27:01

it's good practice to do this in all

27:03

domestic violence call out the

27:05

notice i'm not saying domestic violence incident

27:08

the thing cool out the notice

27:10

just how polite gabby is too

27:14

robinson says why didn't you come over here

27:16

just stirring away from the van a lead

27:18

her closer to his patrols is cool

27:21

the author to tell him what's going on

27:24

noticeably for me he has a good tone

27:27

some kind and compassionate as

27:29

it is genuinely interested i'm

27:31

pretty vaccines his tone and his language

27:34

i believe he does really want to understand

27:36

what's going on the he sense

27:38

there's more to this

27:40

no there's a lot of road noise in the background

27:43

i can hear gabby sniffling and

27:45

still trying to calm herself down

27:47

the trying to regulate her breathing

27:50

which indicates to me that she's been very

27:52

upset but she's also clearly

27:54

visibly upset soon

27:56

he doesn't know what to do with her hands she

27:59

puts them in her shoe

28:00

okay then takes them out then

28:02

she bends over almost folding eyes

28:04

are on herself

28:05

and she crying and she says yes

28:08

no i don't know

28:10

then she starts pulling back her hair and

28:13

breathes deeply while saying

28:15

is just some days i have really

28:17

bad a c d her

28:19

voice jumps a couple of up to have says she

28:21

puts both hands to her heart a

28:23

she's speaking

28:25

now this points to censor city

28:28

the hands to the hall she's speaking from

28:30

the heart and she continues i

28:33

was just cleaning and straightening out when

28:35

i was apologizing to him and saying

28:38

i'm sorry i'm so mean

28:40

because sometimes i have a cd and

28:42

i do get really frustrated not

28:45

might mean and horrid to him i just

28:47

slide my guy

28:49

this you know like

28:52

a bad mood and i was just

28:54

really stressed i had

28:56

so much work to do on my computer

28:58

this morning okay

29:01

for breaking it down yeah be was

29:03

in flew here there was no filter

29:06

i'm thirty now the case is an important

29:08

one or more jumps out immediately

29:10

for me is certainly the continuous

29:13

apologizing to the officer and her

29:15

general demeanor of politeness

29:18

certainly she then right apologizing

29:21

to brian thirdly she's

29:23

claiming responsibility for

29:25

this all her and she talks about

29:27

a c d her obsessive compulsive

29:29

disorder which by the way she wasn't

29:31

diagnosed with the clearly

29:33

like things tidy and in ice but

29:35

that's not a cd the

29:38

say she put yourself down about being

29:40

mean and she said that she stressed

29:43

to to work on her computer that

29:45

was what she was focused and

29:48

the no say just to say

29:50

this is a very different gabby to

29:52

all the posts on social media the

29:55

happy go lucky bright smile

29:57

gabby and she's clearly very

29:59

distressed

30:00

significantly some me she positions

30:02

herself as the problem

30:05

the when i compare this with gabby the

30:07

smiley happy fbi be gabby on

30:09

social media that clearly

30:11

two very different versions of her

30:13

that is apparent to me that

30:15

she's smart an eloquent

30:18

an issue so acquiesce is to authority

30:21

and for men he's not fat

30:23

but she's explaining and taking responsibility

30:26

and being polite all the wall

30:29

even though she's upset she still explaining

30:32

everything in detail on she's still

30:34

taking responsibility and being

30:37

polite the not

30:39

being arguments

30:40

the board difficult a nice also

30:42

very important in terms of my observation

30:45

now the reforms officer officer robbins

30:48

then in jackson what he does for

30:50

anything and she answers

30:53

i used to work in an organic our

30:55

but i quit my job i was a nutritionist

30:59

i quit my job to travel across the country

31:01

and i'm trying to start a blog

31:03

the travel blog saw team building my

31:05

website and i've been highly stressed

31:08

and he doesn't really believe that i can do

31:10

any of it i'm not here my guess

31:13

then we been fighting or morning no

31:16

for me that's an important disclosure

31:19

i've been highly stressed and he doesn't really believe

31:21

i can do any of it

31:24

noticeably she sounds more upset

31:26

when referring to the i would have

31:28

ask more questions at this point this

31:30

is my slightly what they were arguing about

31:33

he was working hard doing the website he

31:35

didn't like her attention being on that and

31:37

wanted to go hiking and he was

31:40

undermining her by putting her down

31:42

and saying he had no confidence in her that's

31:45

a big blow the person who supposed

31:47

to love you saying that rather than listing

31:50

you op said putting you down

31:53

when she goes on and says he wouldn't

31:55

let me in the car he told me

31:57

i had to calm down i'm

32:00

for be calm and he really stresses

32:02

me out well i

32:04

thought into this hey said it's cabbies

32:06

fun and so he's denying her access

32:08

to her own vehicle no

32:10

is she had been drinking i might

32:13

understand it more she was

32:16

he just didn't want her going in her own son

32:19

my experience saying calm down to

32:21

someone who's already upset with that

32:23

tends to escalate things and upset

32:25

a person further

32:27

those are the patronizing to

32:29

and devoid of compassion

32:32

gabby said brian really stressed

32:34

around then he sums it up

32:36

with this is a rough morning

32:39

the officer then says he'll sit her down

32:41

in the back seat of his patrol car and

32:43

he coffee and by saying this is not

32:45

in trouble and should be in the air con

32:48

she can take a breath and he come back

32:50

to his shortly

32:51

that we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that that's

32:53

where detain suspects place

32:56

not just behind gabby the officer

32:59

has shown up at the scene the

33:01

time is sixteen forty eight on the tools

33:03

of august twenty twenty one it's

33:06

debated officer who we now know to

33:08

be eric pratt of the mob city

33:10

police department he gets out

33:12

of his

33:12

the croquet cool and he walks around behind

33:15

gabby and he looks at the officer he's

33:17

talking to her robbins

33:19

will say that i'm brian having sit

33:21

gabby in his car the park

33:24

rangers who surprised at the scene

33:26

and he's talking with brian three the passenger

33:28

window as divine brian

33:30

cranes his neck to see officer

33:33

robbins and says utah

33:35

to gabrielle rate the

33:37

me he appears nervous then

33:40

asked to step out of the vehicle which

33:42

he does

33:43

the me brian asking about gabby

33:46

is codify language and roughly

33:48

translates as what did she

33:50

tell you

33:51

he's trying to see if the officer with say

33:54

on he's nervous about what she might have

33:56

said why does

33:58

he want to know the nothing

34:00

wrong and nothing has happened why

34:02

is he nervous and trying to find out what she said

34:06

this is a red flag however it's

34:08

missed and instead of asking him

34:10

is as something you want to tell us the

34:12

officer states you're not in any

34:14

trouble right now and he then says

34:17

what's going on unfortunately

34:19

that's a missed opportunity right there

34:22

this is what brine replies manuel

34:27

and on a coward

34:30

summing up on it

34:33

worked up over harm right very religious

34:35

myself

34:36

recently i i lost your car and i want to

34:38

ruin whatever reporting is that she's starting

34:40

to set a target on love as a fog and everything

34:43

so are you everytime we

34:45

, had a nice morning and then anything that

34:47

i'm just gonna work the

34:49

whole her partner they're gonna get

34:51

a dog ago i

34:53

, on the other or

34:56

something but that's one doesn't fit in so

34:58

vulgar and that miles per hour away

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