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Adolfo
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Kaminski was 18 years old when
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his family was arrested and taken to
1:23
a Nazi internment camp in France called
1:26
Dronsi. On the walls, you
1:29
had like, gravities of people
1:31
who were trying to let
1:34
a message for their family before
1:36
leaving the camp, you know. They
1:39
were just saying like, hi,
1:41
it's Hannah, a message for
1:43
my mother. I was
1:45
there. You know, things
1:48
like that. Adolfo
1:50
was told that his job at
1:52
the camp would be to paint over the
1:54
messages. So what he
1:56
used to do is, after the painting,
1:59
he used to rewrite them. but very
2:01
small with not a needle,
2:03
but something a little bit bigger than a
2:05
needle, you know. So
2:07
the Nazis would not see that it
2:09
was something colored on the wall, but
2:12
he used to reproduce all the messages.
2:15
This is Adolfo's daughter, Sarah
2:17
Kaminsky. She
2:19
saw her father and his family were released
2:21
from the camp after three months. They
2:24
made their way to Paris, which was occupied
2:26
by the Nazis. And
2:28
Adolfo and his family realized they wouldn't be
2:31
safe there. They needed
2:33
new identities. Adolfo's
2:36
father knew of someone who was
2:38
secretly working with the resistance against
2:40
the Nazis. They
2:43
asked for pictures of the family to
2:45
make fake papers. They
2:47
arranged to meet on a university campus. So
2:50
my grandfather asked my father to go
2:52
there because he was looking like a
2:55
student, and he
2:57
went there and he met a young man,
2:59
a student in
3:02
chemistry, and he gave
3:04
him the photos of all the family. The
3:07
student went by the name Penguin. So
3:10
he asked, okay, we are going to
3:12
change your name, and for
3:15
your profession, what do you want me to put?
3:17
Do you want to be a student? And
3:20
my father said, no, no, I can't be a student.
3:22
I need to get money to earn a living. So
3:26
say that I am a dyer. And
3:29
then the man from the resistance
3:31
was very interested. He
3:33
said a dyer, but so
3:36
that's what you are, a dyer. Are
3:38
you able to erase things? He
3:42
said, yes, of course, I'm the best at
3:45
that. And what about inks?
3:47
Are you able to erase inks?
3:49
He said, of course, I'm able
3:51
to erase anything. And
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he said, okay, we, all
3:56
the resistance in France have
3:59
one problem. There
4:01
is one ink that we can't,
4:03
absolutely can't erase. It is the
4:05
Waterman ink. Waterman
4:09
was a company in Paris that manufactured
4:11
fountain pens. Do
4:13
you know how we can do with this? We
4:17
already analyzed it. It's a methyl.
4:19
It's a blue of methyl. Methylene
4:22
blue was a kind of dye. And
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my father said, okay, that's very simple. You
4:28
use lactic acid. You just do
4:30
that. You will see it. We
4:32
erase it immediately. So
4:35
the man from the resistance was really,
4:37
really impressed. He said, okay, just
4:40
let us make a try
4:43
and we will contact you. Before
4:46
his family was arrested, Adolfo had worked with
4:48
a chemist at a dairy in the small
4:51
town where they lived. The
4:53
dairy would buy cream from farmers to turn
4:55
into butter. But
4:58
they would pay the farmers for the cream
5:00
based on how much fat was in it,
5:03
not by volume or by weight, to
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make sure it wasn't watered down. Adolfo
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remembered that the dairy chemist would
5:11
use methylene blue to figure
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out how much fat was in each batch of
5:15
cream, adding it to a
5:17
sample and observing how long it took the lactic
5:19
acid in the cream to make
5:21
the dye disappear. And
5:25
when the resistance agents who specialized in
5:27
fake papers tried what
5:29
Adolfo had suggested with the
5:31
lactic acid, and it worked. So
5:34
they came back to see my father
5:37
and they said, we need
5:39
someone to manage the
5:41
lab of forging documents.
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We need someone and we think it can be you.
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I'm Phoebe Judge. This is criminal. Thank
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you. What
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was your father like as a kid? He
6:06
was very intelligent. He
6:08
was always the first
6:10
of his class and
6:12
he used to talk three different
6:15
languages and he was only seven
6:17
years old. He used to
6:19
speak Russian, Spanish and French.
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So he was really, really
6:25
smart but he also was a
6:27
very shy boy, very,
6:30
very shy. Adolfo's
6:32
parents were from Russia but
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they had met in Paris in 1916. His
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father had been a reporter for a
6:40
socialist Jewish newspaper and
6:42
his mother had fled the mob attacks
6:44
of Jewish people in Russia, the pogroms.
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The family had to flee to Argentina
6:50
because of their socialist ties. Adolfo
6:53
was born there. Before
6:55
he turned five, they moved back to France.
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When Adolfo was 13 and living in
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a small town called Vere, he
7:04
set up a school newspaper with a classmate. It
7:07
was the principal's idea. He
7:09
suggested it to them because they'd already finished
7:11
all their schoolwork and he thought this would be
7:13
something that would keep them from getting bored. Adolfo
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and his classmate bought a cheap old
7:20
printing press. They would
7:22
go ask other printers for letters in fonts
7:24
that had gone out of style. But
7:28
soon, Adolfo had to stop going to
7:30
school. Studying
7:32
was kind of expensive and so when he was
7:34
14 years old, he had to
7:36
work. He
7:40
got a job in a factory. This was the late
7:42
1930s. In
7:45
1940, Germany invaded France.
7:48
The Nazis arrived in Vere, in
7:50
Normandy, where he used to live.
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They fired him because he was a Jew. He
7:57
decided to try to find another job. Under
8:01
German occupation, there were new laws
8:03
about what jobs Jewish people could
8:05
have. Adolfo
8:07
saw an advertisement for a job
8:09
as a dyer's apprentice, mostly
8:12
dyeing old military uniforms to
8:14
make them into clothes civilians
8:16
could wear. Khaki turned dark
8:18
brown or navy. The
8:21
dyer was a chemical engineer who'd been in the
8:23
French army. Adolfo
8:25
bought the job. For
8:28
him, it was magical what
8:31
he could do with the colors,
8:33
erasing the colors, putting the colors.
8:36
So this was this was magic. It
8:39
fascinated him to see how if
8:42
you put fabric in a tub of water with
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a dye that made the water look black, eventually
8:47
the clothes would turn black while
8:50
the water would become clear again. He
8:53
was like totally impressed
8:55
that he could change things
8:58
with chemistry. Adolfo
9:00
bought a chemistry book at a flea market. He
9:04
couldn't stop asking questions at work. Adolfo
9:07
remembered the dyer saying, so
9:09
far I've had employees who are happy just to
9:11
do their work well. With you, I
9:14
have to talk all the time. Adolfo
9:17
asked if he could take some dye home to
9:19
experiment with. He would try
9:22
experiments in the kitchen. But
9:24
after a few explosions, his parents said no
9:26
more chemicals in the house. I
9:29
think it combined all he
9:32
liked, mathematics, color,
9:36
artistic things, and he
9:38
wanted to continue to learn. Sometimes
9:41
people would come to the dyer asking
9:43
for help removing stains. Adolfo
9:46
remembered he got so good at removing
9:49
difficult stains that people would
9:51
come from other towns to bring him
9:53
lace gloves and silk wedding dresses to clean.
9:57
All the money he could get from his
9:59
work, He used to
10:01
spend it to buy a
10:03
chemistry lab. So,
10:05
but piece by piece, you
10:07
know, not all together. Adolpho
10:10
had seen a set of laboratory flasks
10:13
and tubes and a microscope for
10:15
sale in the window of a drugstore in town.
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The pharmacist at the drugstore was
10:20
named Mr. Brancor. Adolpho
10:23
remembered Mr. Brancor showed him the
10:25
set, and they talked about chemistry.
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And then Brancor agreed to
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set it aside and sell it to
10:34
Adolpho, one flask at a time.
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During the first year of the
13:10
German occupation of France, Adolfo Kaminski's
13:12
uncle, his mother's brother, assaulted
13:14
a German officer. He
13:17
escaped to Paris to hide. Adolfo's
13:20
mother would send him letters there, but
13:23
one day the family heard that the Germans
13:25
had intercepted one of her letters, which
13:28
meant they had her brother's dress. She
13:31
left immediately to go to Paris to warn
13:33
him. So she went and
13:35
took the train, and during the
13:38
way she's been pushed. They
13:43
found her body on the train tracks.
13:45
The family never found out what really happened, but
13:47
Adolfo believed she was killed by German police. Detectives believed
13:49
that she had opened the
13:54
train car door, thinking it
13:56
was a bathroom, and had fallen out. When
14:01
Sarah Kaminsky asked her father why he didn't
14:03
believe the detectives, he said, Now
14:06
you tell me, if someone told
14:08
you I'd fallen out of the train because
14:10
I'd confused the outside door with that to
14:12
the toilets, what would you say? Adolfo
14:17
Kaminsky was 15 years old when his
14:19
mother died, and
14:21
after that, he buried himself even
14:24
more deeply in his chemistry research.
14:27
It was around this time that he also started
14:30
working with the chemist at the dairy. When
14:34
his mother was killed, I
14:37
think it was
14:39
the only thing he had to
14:43
forget or not to think
14:45
too much about the death of his
14:48
mother. He'd
14:50
started making candles and bars of
14:52
soap in his makeshift laboratory, and
14:55
he would fill orders given to him by the
14:57
drugstore pharmacist, Mr. Brandkor. They
15:01
became close. Eventually
15:04
Adolfo realized that the drugstore was
15:06
just a front, and
15:09
that Mr. Brandkor was a French intelligence
15:11
agent who was involved
15:13
in sabotaging the Nazis. He
15:16
was so devastated by the death
15:19
of his mother, and he didn't know what
15:21
to do, and he wanted revenge,
15:23
and he couldn't do anything. Then
15:28
this man told
15:30
him, okay, if you want to help,
15:33
you can help with your chemistry. Mr.
15:36
Brandkor gave Adolfo small jobs at
15:38
first. He created chemical products
15:40
that would rust the railways and
15:43
began making detonators, small
15:45
devices used to set off explosions. It
15:49
was a year later, in 1943,
15:52
when Adolfo Kamensky and his
15:54
family were arrested and taken
15:56
to Droncie. The
15:58
family was released after three months because
16:01
they had citizenship in another country,
16:03
Argentina, which had a diplomatic
16:05
agreement with the Nazis. Once
16:09
they got out, Adolfo met the
16:11
resistance agent, Penguin, who
16:13
was excited he knew how to remove Waterman, Inc. Penguin
16:18
introduced Adolfo to other members of
16:20
the resistance. Two
16:22
men who went by Giraffe and Heron,
16:25
they gave him a blank ID card. He
16:28
filled it out with false information, and
16:30
he was in, a member of the
16:32
resistance. So
16:34
the network he was in
16:37
was supposed to consider him as
16:39
a child. He
16:41
was supposed to be hidden in the
16:44
countryside, in farmers' houses.
16:46
But then they said, okay, even if
16:48
you are not an adult, if
16:51
you agree, you will be the boss of the lab and
16:53
you will stay with us. When
16:56
he got to take a close look at the methods they were
16:58
using in their lab, crayons and
17:00
correction fluid and bleach, he
17:03
knew he could help. He began to
17:05
work and to say, okay, you have to stop doing like
17:07
that. We are going to do like this,
17:09
like this, like this. And he
17:11
changed all the lab. The
17:13
lab was making all kinds of documents. If
17:17
you wanted to hide as a Jew, an
17:20
identity card was not enough.
17:23
Absolutely not, because, you
17:25
know, everybody had food cards. So your
17:27
food cards had to be forged too.
17:30
And if you wanted to be sure to pretend
17:32
not to be a Jew, what
17:35
would be really good is to
17:37
have a baptism certificate, for
17:39
example, things like that, you see.
17:42
So to save one person, you
17:45
needed more than three papers.
17:48
Using Adolpho, there were five people who worked
17:50
in the lab. None of
17:52
them were more than 24 years old. They
17:56
kept the location of the lab a secret, even
17:58
from other members of the resistance. They
18:01
had a lot of chemistry in the lab
18:03
and it could smell and it
18:05
could, you know, it's not easy to hide. So
18:09
they used to say that they were artists
18:11
and that's why they had so many chemistry
18:14
and painting and they used to
18:16
put all their artwork on
18:19
the walls. You
18:21
know, they used to make a
18:23
very, very easy art, I mean,
18:25
and to pretend they were good artists,
18:27
but behind the paintings they
18:30
could hide the papers, the documents. They
18:33
would make as many as 500 papers in a week. Anyone
18:38
who needed forged documents knew to ask
18:40
someone in the resistance and
18:42
the police knew it too. The
18:45
rule was that normally the
18:47
people from the lab would
18:50
never deliver directly to
18:52
someone because it was too dangerous.
18:55
Instead, Adolfo would meet up with
18:57
a liaison agent, often
18:59
a woman. They would meet
19:01
in public and pretend to be on a date. Adolfo
19:04
would bring a rose to make it look real
19:07
and hand over the documents and
19:09
the woman would get them to the people who needed them.
19:13
Often the documents were fake papers for
19:15
Jewish children who needed to be moved to
19:18
safer locations. They would take
19:20
a hundred children and
19:22
pretend it's a summer camp or
19:24
something like that and bring them to the
19:26
south with the forged documents. Occasionally,
19:29
Adolfo would deliver the documents
19:32
himself, especially if
19:34
there was immediate danger. He
19:37
remembered one, a woman alone.
19:41
I think she didn't have a husband
19:43
anymore. Maybe he died at the war
19:45
and she was the mother of four
19:48
little children. When
19:50
Adolfo offered her papers, she
19:52
didn't want them. She asked why
19:54
they should hide when they'd done nothing wrong.
19:57
And he begged her to take the... To
20:00
take the documents, he said that his
20:03
network was able to hide her children
20:05
and that she continued to say no,
20:07
no, no And this
20:09
is something he remembered until
20:11
the rest of his life I
20:15
mean it must have been very hard I
20:17
mean working all night with these documents going
20:19
out and running around putting himself in and
20:21
he was young too This has been
20:24
really hard for him Yes,
20:27
it was really hard for him
20:29
What he said was that it
20:32
was hard but not hard
20:34
as if he was doing
20:36
nothing So he
20:39
always said that if he had
20:42
done nothing, maybe he
20:44
would have not survived And
20:46
even with the fear, sometimes
20:49
in the lab they had happy
20:52
moments Like being
20:54
teenagers together And
20:57
he had the same danger, doing
21:00
something or doing nothing The
21:03
people who were deported sent
21:05
to death camps, they did nothing
21:07
wrong So taking risks or
21:09
not for him was the
21:12
same danger And
21:17
one day he received the order
21:20
to make documents for 300
21:22
children But
21:24
they had only three days and it
21:26
was absolutely impossible They
21:29
only had three days because they'd heard that
21:32
the Nazis were planning raids on
21:34
ten homes for children They
21:37
needed to make at least three documents per
21:39
child By
21:42
the end of the first day, they'd finished less than a quarter of
21:44
the documents they needed Adolpho didn't sleep He
21:47
told himself, it's a simple calculation
21:50
In one hour I can make 30 blank documents
21:53
If I sleep for an hour, 30 people will die
22:00
By the morning of the third day, they'd finished over
22:02
800 documents. But
22:05
at the very end, he fainted. His
22:08
colleague told him to go to sleep, quote,
22:11
we need a forger, not
22:13
another corpse. Later,
22:16
in August of 1944,
22:19
Adolfo heard that his friend Penguin had
22:21
been arrested with a group of 30 children
22:24
and sent to Auschwitz. And
22:27
then, French and American armies arrived
22:30
to liberate Paris from the German
22:32
army. There was fighting in
22:34
the streets. Adolfo volunteered
22:36
to help the French army carry the
22:38
wounded on stretchers. He
22:41
never saw Penguin again. What
22:45
did he do after liberation?
22:49
After the liberation, you
22:52
know, all the people who were part of
22:54
the lab were students, so
22:56
they went back to their studies. He
23:01
had no studies. He had
23:03
nothing to do. He was, like, very lonely,
23:05
and he
23:07
went to see his father. His father
23:09
was living in a very, very small
23:11
room, and something
23:13
was very broken. He
23:16
didn't know what to do. Then
23:19
Adolfo heard from someone in the
23:21
French army's secret service. They
23:24
needed a forger. Paris
23:26
was liberated, but the war was
23:28
not finished. And in
23:31
Germany, the camps were
23:33
still burning people, and so
23:36
they needed to send secret
23:38
agents in Germany to
23:41
bring proof of the horrors
23:44
in the death camps. So
23:47
then he went back to forgery. Adolfo's
23:50
job was to meet with French
23:52
intelligence agents before they went to Germany.
23:55
The agents would try to find
23:57
and infiltrate lesser-known concentration camps. especially
24:01
ones where Nazis conducted medical experiments
24:03
on the people they imprisoned. The
24:07
agents were supposed to collect evidence of their
24:09
crimes before they could distribute.
24:13
Adolfo would talk with each agent about
24:15
their real past and then would help
24:18
them come up with a fake backstory.
24:21
Then he would make the German documents to back it
24:23
up. IDs but
24:25
also receipts, library cards, movie
24:27
tickets, letters from fictional fiancees,
24:30
prescriptions. The
24:33
French army started paying for all
24:35
of Adolfo's expenses. They
24:37
put him up in a hotel and gave him a
24:40
whole floor of a building to work. He
24:42
had a private car and a driver. He
24:45
said, I had become a
24:47
state forger, a new status. He
24:52
had to keep working under a fake name and
24:54
he told his family and friends from the
24:56
resistance. He was just a government clerk. Decades
25:01
later when Sarah Kaminski was growing up in the
25:03
1980s, she says her father
25:06
wouldn't talk much about his life during the
25:08
war. I mean my
25:10
father didn't want to talk about this because
25:14
even if he saved lives it
25:16
was with an
25:18
illegal way, in an
25:20
illegal way. He
25:23
wanted to raise us as good men
25:25
and women and he wanted us to
25:28
obey the laws. Did
25:31
he ever teach you to forge anything? No, of
25:34
course not. He would never
25:36
teach me to forge anything or
25:39
to lie or anything like that. What
25:43
happened was, I think I was 12 or
25:46
13 years old and
25:48
I brought a bad mark and
25:51
my parents were supposed to sign
25:53
it. I didn't
25:55
know that he had
25:57
been a forger. Sarah
26:00
decided to try to forge her mother's signature
26:02
on the bad grade. So I
26:04
tried, you know, I made tests
26:07
and I tried to make it
26:10
the same. And then
26:12
I put my false signature
26:15
on the paper and
26:17
my mother discovered it. She
26:19
was so upset and very unhappy and
26:22
she said, okay, but you will see
26:24
when your father will see that. I
26:28
went to hide in my room and
26:31
really, like I
26:34
was ashamed, very ashamed. And my
26:36
father came back from work. He
26:38
sat on the bed and I thought he was
26:41
going to be as upset as my mother and
26:43
he just began to
26:45
laugh, but to laugh out loud. He
26:47
couldn't stop laughing. So I was really,
26:49
really surprised. Why was he laughing like
26:51
that? And he just
26:53
told me, Sarah, how do you
26:56
see this signature? You
26:58
see that it is much too small. It's not
27:00
good. It's not good work. And,
27:02
you know, I didn't know yet
27:04
that he had been a forger. But
27:06
later I just thought that
27:09
he was, you know, maybe
27:11
disappointed and that I would
27:13
never make a good forger. After
27:19
the war ended, Adolfo Kaminsky
27:21
tried to find jobs as a photographer or
27:23
as a dyer. He
27:26
worked for a company that made large photographs
27:28
for movie sets. Then
27:30
he opened his own photography lab. He
27:33
later told Sarah that it was difficult to
27:35
adjust to normal life. My
27:38
nightmares were haunted by too many faces,
27:40
he said. But
27:43
he was still approached to make forged
27:45
documents and he continued to agree.
27:49
Was it hard for him to keep up
27:52
family and relationships because he was always
27:54
getting pulled into these secret
27:57
projects that he couldn't talk about? Yes,
28:01
all his life he could
28:04
not do things as anyone
28:06
normal. One of his ex-girlfriends
28:10
was sure that he was cheating, you
28:12
know, he was maybe somewhere with
28:14
women or the same things like that, but no,
28:17
he was hiding in a lab making
28:20
forged documents. One
28:23
time he even planned to move to America
28:25
for a girlfriend, her name was
28:28
Sarah Elizabeth. But
28:30
then he was approached by a group called
28:32
the Suitcase Carriers who were
28:35
helping the National Liberation Front or
28:37
FLN. They
28:39
needed his help forging documents for
28:41
Algerians, fighting for independence from the
28:43
French. Sarah Elizabeth was
28:45
waiting for him in New York and
28:48
he couldn't tell her why he was
28:50
not joining her. So
28:53
he was just trying to send her
28:55
letters to say, I will come, but
28:58
later let me time, let
29:00
me some time. And she was answering,
29:03
well, what are you doing? I'm waiting for you.
29:05
My parents are supposed to meet you. We're
29:08
going to marry. What are you doing? And he
29:10
couldn't say the truth. So
29:13
she just thought that he was, you
29:16
know, far from the eyes, far
29:18
from the heart. So
29:20
she sent a last letter in
29:23
which she drew herself
29:26
walking far and her footprints in
29:28
the snow of New York, you
29:30
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29:32
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32:14
sample IDs, and engraving plates he'd used
32:16
to make documents in the 40s. But
32:20
by the late 1950s, the
32:22
way official legal documents looked kept
32:25
changing. There was
32:27
one very famous document who
32:29
was really supposed to be
32:32
unforgible. And
32:34
this was the Switzerland
32:37
passport. Once
32:39
he was given two days by
32:41
the suitcase carriers to create two
32:43
Swiss passports. He wasn't sure
32:45
he could do it. The
32:48
cover of the Swiss passport was made
32:50
from an unusual material. He'd
32:52
never heard of anyone being able to replicate it. The
32:56
first day and night, he tried mixing
32:59
together paper with cellulose and glue in
33:01
different amounts, then drawing it
33:03
in sheets. But nothing
33:05
was working. He couldn't
33:07
sleep because of that. So even
33:09
if he's dreams, he was still trying
33:12
to find a solution. So he went to
33:14
sleep. And when he woke up, he had
33:16
the solution. He had
33:19
a dream about cutting up pieces of gauze
33:21
for bandaging wounds and adding them to the
33:23
paper mixture. And
33:25
that worked. But
33:27
what he didn't know is that
33:29
the man who asked him for the
33:31
passport didn't really need this
33:33
passport. He just made a joke
33:36
with another man of the network and
33:38
said, okay, this man, this
33:40
forger, is able to forge anything,
33:42
but we are going to see
33:45
if he's able to do that.
33:48
And they were sure that he would
33:50
say, okay, I'm not able to do
33:52
it. So they were so surprised that
33:54
he was able to do it, that
33:56
they never told him during all
33:58
the wars that didn't tell him. him that
34:00
it was just a bet. So
34:03
they told him later. By
34:06
now, Adolfo was in his mid-30s. He'd
34:09
been forging since he was 18. His
34:12
work made it difficult to be close to people.
34:16
So every time he fell in love
34:18
with the woman, she just
34:23
left him. Adolfo
34:25
had gotten married after World War II
34:27
and had two kids, Marta
34:30
and Serge. Two
34:32
years in, his marriage fell apart. His
34:35
ex-wife had custody of the children as they grew up.
34:38
But Adolfo was supposed to visit on weekends
34:40
and take them on walks. Often,
34:43
he wouldn't show up. Sometimes
34:46
he wouldn't be in touch for long periods
34:48
of time. He could
34:50
disappear for weeks, sometimes
34:54
four months. And once
34:56
he disappeared during two years and the
34:59
kids, they were around maybe
35:01
12 years old, they
35:04
really thought that he was dead. The
35:10
Algerians won independence from France in 1962.
35:15
Adolfo finished up his work with the suitcase
35:17
carriers. But new contacts
35:19
started coming to him with requests from
35:21
resistance movements around the world. In
35:24
Spain, the Dominican Republic, Venezuela,
35:27
Angola, Guinea-Bissau. Also,
35:30
American deserters in Vietnam
35:33
and the African National Congress in South
35:35
Africa. He didn't want
35:37
to be paid by the networks because he wanted
35:39
to be sure to be able to say yes
35:42
or to say no. Adolfo
35:45
thought that if he relied on forging for
35:47
income, he might have to say yes
35:49
to things he disagreed with. So
35:51
because he was not paid, he had to work. So he
35:53
used the lab of
35:55
photography during the day, was the forgering
35:57
lab during the night, you see. But
36:01
he really had a lot
36:04
of problem with money. He
36:08
stayed poor. He
36:10
later told Sarah, he felt like if
36:12
he took money, quote, I'd
36:14
become a mercenary. It
36:17
was like he had debt because
36:21
he was a survivor. So
36:23
in Drancy, he
36:25
saw thousands and
36:27
thousands and thousands of people going
36:29
to the death camps. And
36:32
he saw his best friend going
36:36
to the death camps. And he
36:38
couldn't do anything. It was like even
36:43
at the very end of his life, it
36:46
is something for which he
36:49
felt a lot of guilt.
36:52
I would say that the guilt of being a
36:55
survivor and
36:58
the guilt of
37:02
being incapable of doing anything,
37:04
you see. So
37:07
he had to save other people. You
37:11
know, it was a need and
37:14
not something he was proud of. He
37:30
had one liaison
37:32
agent and it was
37:34
Janet. Janet was like
37:36
him. Janet was two. She
37:39
was hiding during World War II with her mother.
37:42
Janessa had worked with Adolfo during the
37:44
Algerian War. And she
37:47
continued for the liberation movements
37:49
of South America.
37:53
She was working for Guatemala
37:56
Network. And she really wanted
37:58
to go there. to fight and to
38:01
fight with his weapon. And
38:03
they were very close, my father and her, but
38:06
he didn't like that.
38:09
He didn't want her to go. But she
38:12
still asked him for a forged passport. And
38:15
he said no, but she insisted and
38:18
he gave her the documents. Some
38:21
time later, he was reading the newspaper Le
38:23
Monde in a cafe. And he
38:26
saw an article about a young French woman who
38:28
had shot herself when the police knocked on her
38:30
door. He was sure
38:33
it was Jeanette. Her
38:35
name was not in the newspaper, but of
38:37
course he understood with
38:39
the description of this French woman. He
38:43
knew it could be only her. How
38:47
did he respond to that? He
38:51
wanted to stop. He
38:53
wanted to stop everything. He was tired. But the problem
38:55
is like
38:59
when you have begin
39:01
something, it's really, really hard to
39:03
stop. So he wanted
39:05
to have a normal life, but it
39:07
was impossible because all the people he
39:09
knew were people in Clonestiniti doing what
39:11
he was doing. But
39:15
then something happened, which
39:19
forced him to stop. Adulpha
39:22
had received a request for South
39:24
African passports, documents
39:26
for anti-apartheid militants. A
39:29
liaison agent brought him an example
39:31
passport, one that seemed borrowed
39:34
or stolen to base the copies on.
39:37
The photo on the passport was of a black South
39:39
African man, around 30 years old. And
39:43
one side of the passport cover
39:45
was bent. Adulpha
39:48
studied the passport and told his liaison
39:50
agent that he could do it. But
39:53
then he stopped hearing from the agent. His
39:57
liaison agent disappeared for one month and then took
39:59
the phone. months and so he
40:01
was like very anxious
40:04
about that. And then another
40:06
man from another network who
40:09
he was not used to work with came
40:12
to see him and said, do
40:16
you still make force documents? And
40:19
then the man gave him a model
40:21
and said, can you try to
40:24
reproduce this? He gave him
40:26
the model and it was the same model.
40:29
It was the same man on the picture. It was
40:31
the same name. It was exactly the same so
40:35
this was really weird because he
40:37
had given the passport back to
40:39
his liaison agent
40:42
which had disappeared. Adolfo
40:45
was nervous. He told the man
40:47
no, he couldn't reproduce the passport.
40:50
And then he went to Algeria for a
40:53
vacation and met up with an old
40:55
friend who lived there. And the
40:57
man told him, do you still make forgery?
41:00
So my father said no. And
41:03
he's a big because you
41:05
need to help the South African. And
41:08
I have a passport. Maybe you could
41:10
try. And he gave him the passport
41:12
and it was the same again, the
41:15
same passport. So this was, he
41:20
never knew what happened, but he
41:22
was sure that something was like
41:25
a trap. It was
41:27
impossible that the
41:30
same passport could be brought to him
41:32
from three different people not living in
41:36
the same country. So he was
41:38
kind of sure that the
41:40
police or another network was
41:42
trying to find the
41:45
reporter. Adolfo went back to France and decided he
41:48
had to leave the country. He'd
41:53
been forging documents for almost
41:55
30 years. He
41:58
moved to Algeria and got a job teaching
42:00
photography at a university. And
42:04
then he met my mother. Sarah's
42:06
mother, Leila, was an activist
42:08
campaigning for the decolonization of
42:10
Africa. Adolfo
42:13
and Leila got married and had three
42:15
children. Sarah is the
42:17
youngest. As
42:20
Sarah got older, her father told her more
42:22
about his past. He'd
42:24
always said he would write a book, but
42:26
never did. So Sarah started
42:28
writing one with him instead. She
42:31
tried to track down people he'd worked with as
42:33
a forger. What
42:36
was it like meeting people from his past?
42:40
The thing is that the man they
42:43
knew was not the man I knew.
42:47
I knew a very tender
42:50
father, very quiet
42:53
and patient. And
42:56
what they told me is that he
42:58
was very strict. And
43:01
the people I met from
43:03
his past were like, all
43:06
of them were heroes. All the
43:08
time I was thinking, okay, this man should have
43:10
a book too. And for this
43:12
woman, I should write two books. So
43:15
of course I was not
43:17
able to do that. But it's so impressive
43:20
to meet this kind of people who
43:22
stayed in the shadow and
43:25
had this kind
43:27
of life, unimaginable
43:30
life. Adolfo
43:33
Kaminsky died last year in January
43:35
of 2023. He
43:37
was 97. One
43:41
obituary read, Mr.
43:43
Kaminsky estimated that the underground network
43:45
he was part of helped
43:49
save 10,000 people, most of
43:51
them children. When
43:54
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43:56
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