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Hi, it's Phoebe. If
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you're a regular listener, you've probably
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And when you sign up for Criminal Plus, you
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In each one, I talk with Criminal co-creator
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Lauren Spohr. We take your questions,
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pop in, and we get off track
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very easily. We're having
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a lot of fun making these, and we thought
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you might like to hear what they sound like. Hi,
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this is Ginger Williams in Hays, Kansas.
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And Phoebe, I love the podcast. I listen
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to every episode.
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And I love the way that you say .com
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with an L in it, but I'm just wondering why
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you say it that way. Thanks.
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I love, well, first off, I love... I feel like that's kind of a burn. Okay,
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but
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can I just say I love the name Ginger? Yes,
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I do too. And I don't think we hear the name Ginger enough.
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This is like, it's one of those like
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more of a comment than a question types of questions.
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Why do you say it with an L? I love the way that
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you do that. And also, why do you do that?
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You know, I don't know that I'm doing
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that is the honest answer
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is that I never, it never occurred to me
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that I was saying .com
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like .calm until
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someone pointed it out. And then a lot of people, Ginger,
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you were not the first to ask this question. We
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actually have a t-shirt that says,
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I didn't
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really like this idea for a t-shirt. I loved it.
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Lauren designed it. It's a, it's a picture
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on the front of the lemur
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from our lemur episode. And
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then the Quaalude lemur episode. And
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then on the back, it says...
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it's pronounced dot-calm.
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I don't
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think that's a very good idea for a shirt.
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Everyone else seems to like it. Well, they're sold out so
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I think the numbers speak for themselves. But
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it was really amazing to me that when the first
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person, you know, Ginger, that you
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and many others are wondering
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about dot-calm. A
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lot of people have tweeted about it.
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A lot of people. Say
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dot-calm. Dot-calm. Dot-calm.
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Go to Squarespace dot-calm. Go
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to Squarespace dot-calm. Does it sound that
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different to you? Dot-calm. Dot-calm. Uh... www.squarespace.com
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I've heard you say this so many
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times that it's almost like I'm in the
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boiling water with you. Like I have no... Why
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is the water boiling? I
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can't really be objective about this either. But I think it's more
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of like a box dot-calm. Am
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I saying it with an L also now? Calm. You
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know
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the funniest thing... I use it calm. The funniest thing...
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Should we hear it? Yeah, I'm sure we can. Let's
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hear it. Let's hear it. One more time to try it for free. Go
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to zippercruiter.com slash criminal. That's
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blueapron.com slash criminal. By visiting
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casper.com slash criminal. Go
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to stamps.com, click on the microphone at
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the top of the homepage and type in criminal. That's stamps.com, enter criminal.
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Stamps.com. Never go to the post office
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again. I think there's a little style to it. Remember
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when we got the sponsor Calm? So
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we had the sponsors Calm.com. I
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really threw people off.
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Someone tweeted that it makes them
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feel squirmy. I mean
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if that makes them feel squirmy. It gives them a tough
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life. Yeah, I don't know how to help them. Ginger,
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I'll try but I can't promise you
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that I'll say it any differently than dot-calm.
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Okay, so a few months ago, Phoebe
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and I got an email. to our personal
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jima accounts from his old friend of ours
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and in issues like i hope you're doing
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well and inertia like sort of writes about what she's
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doing and then i read or back and i said like hi i'm
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so glad to hear from you and then
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she writes back and so we're just like off
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back and forth and phoebe saying
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nothing and i'm like okay or she must be of as is
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kind of unlike her and then finally like five
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days later we got this email that says
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hi i feel
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compelled to tell you that i am not the phoebe
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judge but merely a random farmer in
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vermont
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who was also named phoebe judge and
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happened to get to the gml first i
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don't want you to think the other phoebe was ignoring you
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thanks com i phoebe and so i like stare at this
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email and i look at who who it's to and
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then i wrote er back and i said oh my
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god l o l hi phoebe judge have
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other people made this mistake and she responded
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and said so many times including
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my own extended family is not
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the most common name member that me and
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said years ago oh this is so
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many years ago i was guest
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hosting for the stewards accord
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and and of was you know
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young and just starting out and
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a man wrote in and said i
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just wanna let you know that mr
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phoebe judd is doing a great
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job
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mr phoebe judd is
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doing a great job so funny but
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i know i had that of course i had no idea
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that there was another phoebe church of their
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hello hello and
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other really this is laurent fabius
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here is this phoebe record bb
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i phoebe how are you
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a marine area
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well we were to put a thing that
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we both her as a name i
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live in a very small town and are actually
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used to be another drug and
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now know when at
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a public or town of about four thousand
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people though i'd go to go vote
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and that vt grew up and went to school
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in the town and i feel like i'm feeding judge
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and maybe like know you're not we know eighty
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and I was like, there's another one. You
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gotta check. When I was in
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college, there was a woman
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who also was a Phoebe judge.
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And so they refiled
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all of my paperwork in her paperwork.
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You're telling me that you know three
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other Phoebe judges. Yes,
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mutually exclusive Phoebe judges. Yes,
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isn't that crazy? Yeah, I know a lot
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of Phoebe judges. Now that's wild.
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You know a lot of, I don't know any. You're
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the first Phoebe judge I've ever met.
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Really? Do you think you've gotten
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a lot of emails intended for the
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other Phoebe judges? I mean, it's so good
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on you for getting the Gmail first. I
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know you got it. I got it from somebody who
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had like a good
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friend at Google. So
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I was one of the first beta testers.
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So I had an in that way. I
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think I've gotten email, yeah, like four
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or five times
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for you. I'm not email. I'm
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not email. But I'm
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always kind of like, is this spam? Are you actually
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trying to, that's why I didn't
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respond earlier in that email
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chain. Cause I was like, I can't tell
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if this is spam. I can't tell
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if like what is actually happening. And
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so then when somebody else wrote back,
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then I was like, oh, I don't want to phoebe,
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the other Phoebe judges good name by ignoring
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her.
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It's so polite. And it's also just so funny
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because like the emails are
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kind of personal. And so just the idea of
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a stranger just sort of reading along is so
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funny to me. And then finally having to speak up and
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be like, pardon me, you have the wrong person
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is so funny.
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I felt so badly. So
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you have had other people think that you're the
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host of a podcast before.
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Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah,
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pretty much every time I start a new job,
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they say, are you, are you the
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Phoebe judge?
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What's your real job? Well, right now I am
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a flower farmer in
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Vermont. Like I'm sitting
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in an empty cargo van right now. So my voice
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is not even remotely great
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sounding, but like we have very distinctive
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voices. I have to be like, close your eyes
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and listen to me tell you, I am
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not that Phoebe judge. And then they're like, oh
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yeah, you're right. That's not you. Phoebe,
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do you enjoy it when
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people shorten your name? No.
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That's right. That's the right answer.
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No. And
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I think just because of like, people
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have been confusing me,
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or confusing me for you or you for me for
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about the same amount of time that I've been like
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a post college adult. So I think we're
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about the same age, but I
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came up in the era of friends, right?
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Yeah, exactly right. They do it all the time
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to me too. Were you named after Lisa Kudrow? Oh
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my God. Well, my sister's name is Rachel.
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And so we have like the Phoebe and Rachel
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duo, but people always want to call me
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feeds. And I have to be like, no, that
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is not my name. I feel
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the same way. And when I look at them, when they say, were you named
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after Lisa Kudrow? I think that would put
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me probably around 18 years old.
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You know,
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the timing doesn't match up, but
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I'm with you. I hate it when people shorten
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my name.
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Do you get the joke where people are like, you should
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become a judge, you'd be judge, judge. Yes.
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Well, I went to law school for like
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two weeks. And then I was
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like, I can't do this. But my sister
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is a lawyer. And so she does
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get that a lot because
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her last name is also judge still. To
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people, you know what, it's always so funny to me is
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when people ask me to
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spell my name, but they're not, I
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guess our name, but they're not so confused,
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the Phoebe, they're confused at the judge. So
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they say, and I say, J-U-D-G-E,
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no tricks. No tricks
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there.
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It's very hard to enunciate
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in a way that people are like,
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oh, right, like the courtroom. Okay.
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I find it a hard name to get over the
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phone, especially for people. Yes, because
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they think you're saying Stevie.
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Yes, Stevie Judd is what I get all
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the time. Stevie Judd. Stevie
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Judd. Okay, sure.
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Like, yes, I've picked up a lot of
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orders for Stevie Judd. You know,
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I don't even, I don't correct anyone.
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I mean, I just let them go with it.
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You know, instead of saying no, it's O-E, it's
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E-O, I just say, that's right, you got it. Good
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try, I appreciate it.
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Phoebe, do you listen to Criminal? No.
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It kind
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of feels like the nexus
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of the universe. And so I try to be like,
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that Phoebe Judd is having her life and
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I'm having mine. And I don't have to
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like
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look in an infinite mirror of listening to
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my own name come through the podcast.
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Has anyone ever asked you to do an impression of her?
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Yeah, every single time people are like, are you the
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Stevie Judd? And then I have to be like, no, and they're like, can
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you say it anyway? And I'm like, oh
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my gosh. Okay. What
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a nightmare, what a nightmare. Well,
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someday I would love to see you in the
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same space. You could trade jobs for a
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day. I would love that.
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Welcome to Stop By the Farm, any
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time you're in Vermont. Phoebe,
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thank you so much, Phoebe. Well, thank you so much. Yeah,
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thanks so much.
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