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instances come down to a very

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common set of motives. Jealousy.

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Anger. Crimes of

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passion. Greed. Financial

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gain, All. That type of

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stuff. The case we're talking about

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the perpetrator in this case is

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you could say there are elements

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interesting fact. That most. Murder

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victims are not killed by strangers,

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their killed by someone close to

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them. Were. Talking about the

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August two thousand and fifteen murders

3:56

of Jeffrey and Jeanette Navy. On.

3:58

August. Seven, Two Thousand Fifteen. Lore

4:01

Thompson called the Eastern Connecticut Police

4:03

Department. To. Report the disappearance of

4:05

her brother Jeffrey name. And. Fifty.

4:07

Six year old Jeffrey Cone Jane

4:10

J. Refuse Waste Management Company in

4:12

Westport, Connecticut. With. His brother William.

4:15

But. The trash long as route hadn't been picked

4:17

up for days. It. Was on like

4:19

Jeffrey to miss work without telling anyone. And.

4:21

When we and called him. It. Was clear that

4:23

the phone was off. Which. Was also unlike

4:26

him. The. Also couldn't get in contact

4:28

with Jesse's voice. Fifty. Five Real

4:30

Jeanette Me and. He. Was a

4:32

pair of professional in the library at

4:34

Western Intermediate School. The. Couple hadn't

4:36

been seen since three days earlier on

4:38

August fourth. Their. Son twenty seven year

4:41

old Call Nave and. Was. The last

4:43

person who had spoken to either them. How

4:45

also worked at Jj Rothys as

4:47

an Operations Manager. But. Due to

4:49

recently broken back, he didn't work a regular

4:52

schedule. How had declined to dinner

4:54

invitation from his parents on the morning of

4:56

August Fourth for the same reason. They.

4:58

Came to visit him instead and asked if he wanted

5:00

to go to dinner that night. But. He

5:02

wasn't too much pain. He. Thought that maybe they

5:04

had gone the New York City for dinner while

5:06

he decided stay in. According. To

5:08

Kyle. Jeffrey. Internet did often

5:10

sneak way for quick trips. Basically.

5:13

On a whim, but they always return

5:15

quickly. The. Capo hadn't mentioned

5:17

to cower anyone else any vacation

5:19

plans, and even if they had

5:22

taken a spur of moment trap,

5:24

Jeffrey definitely would have made sure

5:26

his routes were covered. Cow.

5:29

Was generally the one who would

5:31

cover the routes since something clearly

5:33

seem to be wrong. The police

5:35

quickly became involved. He. Said

5:37

Police Chief Tim Shop confirmed

5:39

that the situation of them

5:41

being missing was odd. Telling

5:43

The Connecticut Post. It's. Not

5:45

uncommon for them to travel. Although.

5:48

This is a long time for them

5:50

to be away without notifying anybody. The.

5:53

Only other information cow thought

5:55

to be relevant is that

5:57

his parents were actually selling

5:59

their business to the to

6:01

refuse another similar company Investigator

6:03

spoke to the owner, Dominic

6:05

Venter. Who. Confirmed that he

6:07

was interested in buying Jj refuse,

6:09

but that nothing had actually gone

6:12

through. And no deal had been made.

6:14

It more if I I think this

6:16

is something that we see in many

6:19

cases where someone goes missing. In.

6:21

This case, if two people,

6:23

a couple. You hear

6:25

people? Talk. About their

6:27

routine. And. It

6:29

really kind of is that. Breaking.

6:32

Up the routines are doing something

6:34

that's out of the ordinary. That.

6:37

A lot of times said says

6:39

people's attention. You. Here we have.

6:41

A guy who owns a business. Okay,

6:44

well there's a lotta responsibility that.

6:47

You. Really can't just. All.

6:49

Of a sudden decide that

6:51

you're going to take a

6:53

trip without notifying somebody setting

6:55

things up. You. Know something

6:57

along those lines. And. I

7:00

think, especially because his business was

7:02

trash removal. Disturbed. Don't.

7:04

Couple days without taking way. trashed. It's going

7:06

to lead a lot of problems. A lot

7:08

of people complaining. so. As he

7:10

goes, one hint that something was deathly wrong. I'm

7:13

in. As you mentioned, it's not one person that's.

7:15

Deviated. From earth normal routine it's

7:18

to different people say think that's

7:20

why police became so. Involved

7:22

early because they were very concerned.

7:25

Y. M. And we're also not

7:27

talking about. You. Know Let's say.

7:30

Someone. In their early twenties?

7:32

who hasn't yet establish their.

7:35

Wives. So to say. He.

7:37

Have made it much easier for them to

7:39

can take off on a whim. Were.

7:41

Talking about you know, people in

7:43

their fifties who have. Major.

7:46

Responsibilities, family. It's

7:48

just not something

7:50

that. You. Would expect a

7:52

hat. Yai! Kind of thing

7:54

about myself and my wife. The. We

7:56

can just wake up one morning and

7:59

say well we're going to fourth I'm

8:01

A we could we have to put

8:03

some things into motion That right a

8:06

me. We have to tell people can

8:08

tell our kids what we're doing. That's.

8:11

Just how work. Ethic. the

8:13

more established the routine is, the more.

8:15

Noticeable. Is when something. Strays.

8:18

From that normal routine. At

8:20

the neighbors rented home and Easton, a

8:22

Mercedes Eat, Three Twenty, and a Mitsubishi

8:24

truck were parked in the driveway. The.

8:27

Homes owner landlord Robert Hennessy.

8:30

Lives the home next door allowed investigators

8:32

to search and saddened evens home. A.

8:34

Third car, Afford Model A, was found

8:37

parked inside the garage. However,

8:39

The nave in two thousand three Dodge Ram

8:41

was missing. Inside. The home Nothing

8:43

was at a place. The. Bed hadn't

8:45

been made, but everything's clean. A

8:48

to do list on the refrigerator revealed

8:50

no clues about their whereabouts. But.

8:52

Seem to indicate some sort of trip. There.

8:54

Are reminders to turn off the humidifiers and

8:56

the lights and home. But. This

8:58

isn't the sink and last has leapt on a

9:01

table suggested that the Navy had planned to come

9:03

back home on August fourth. A

9:05

search for their phone records revealed no activity

9:07

since August fourth. Both. Phones were

9:09

turned off and not pee anymore. To.

9:12

That's last. Recorded phone calls eight forty

9:14

five am. This. To second phone

9:16

call was to Jeffrey. His. Final phone

9:18

call was a few hours later at one twenty

9:20

three pm. With. No clear mode

9:22

ever clues to work with pointing

9:25

to what happened to the Nathan's

9:27

police began to look into their

9:29

personal lives and finances. Looking for

9:31

anything the may shed light on

9:33

the disappearance. Eight years

9:35

earlier, in two thousand seven,

9:37

Hsbc Bank Usa foreclose on

9:39

a home and Guilford. Own

9:42

by the Nathan's claiming that Jeffrey

9:44

failed to pay the one point

9:46

three million dollar Morton's. Jeffrey.

9:48

Appealed the decision twice but both

9:50

times the judgment was the same.

9:53

By. Two thousand And sixteen the data grown

9:55

to Two Point Two million. Now. Jeffrey.

9:57

Tried to appeal the case again. Just

10:00

two months before his disappearance, but the

10:02

case was not reopened. In. Two

10:04

thousand and Fourteen Connecticut widened power

10:07

had also Sue Jeffrey, Neva, and

10:09

forth a hundred and thirty eight

10:12

thousand bow and Utilities as the

10:14

Guilford Hope. He. Was ordered

10:16

to repay the some out. With.

10:18

Weekly payments of thirty five dollars as

10:20

well as any interest that had built

10:22

up in June two thousand and says

10:25

t the name and sold the west

10:27

and home they had lived in for

10:29

twenty one years for nine hundred thousand

10:31

dollars. So. The one thing that

10:33

really jumps how to me more if

10:35

is I mean obviously. The. Nathan's

10:37

had some month. The. How

10:39

much money they had at the point? Where.

10:42

They went missing your that

10:44

will have to to figure

10:46

out but at one point

10:48

jones two different homes. They

10:50

obviously we're pretty expensive homes.

10:53

But. There. Was a lot going

10:55

on. It. Didn't seem like they

10:57

were paying for. One. Of

10:59

the homes of was foreclosed on it

11:02

to think about. Oh weighing.

11:04

Hundred. And thirty eight thousand

11:07

dollars in utilities. Okay,

11:09

that means you haven't been paying for.

11:11

Some time. Yeah, think that's

11:13

way past the point where they would

11:16

start shoving stuff. Awesome! biggest interest and

11:18

penalties and fees are just throwing after

11:20

that. Were. In you mentioned earlier

11:23

that at the time they disappeared,

11:25

they were living in a rented

11:27

home. And. I just said they

11:29

sold. The. Home the day and lived

11:31

in for twenty one years. So. We

11:33

don't have all of the details.

11:36

But. It does seem. As.

11:38

Though. Something changed to

11:40

financially over the years. Now

11:42

they store own. This.

11:45

Business. But maybe it wasn't doing

11:47

as well as what it had

11:49

been doing. Something. Definitely

11:51

changed. Their was immediate speculation

11:54

that the name and three they're hiding from

11:56

their debt or had been harmed over. Attorney.

11:59

Tennis or day you need a couple? Well

12:01

told The Kinetic Post. Just. As

12:03

a guy I've known for long time. And.

12:05

I've never known him to be in any

12:07

difficulties. That. Would result the him being

12:09

injured or harmed. I don't think

12:11

that's a situation. I. Just think he's

12:14

an average guy. The. Name and family

12:16

released a statement to the media and according

12:18

to Cbs News, it right in part. Financial.

12:21

Issues recently reported by the media. Have.

12:23

Not been proven to be a factor

12:25

for family members disappearance. Information.

12:28

From the authorities indicates that there are available

12:30

fun still in their bank accounts that are

12:32

on touched. It was unclear the financial

12:34

issues of the nave and face had anything to

12:36

do with why they were missing. And

12:38

police kept looking for clues are evidence to work

12:41

with. But. Going back to

12:43

these financial issues, you can see

12:45

why. maybe the police would. Want.

12:48

To focus in on. The

12:50

you. Know if you have a home

12:52

that's foreclosed on yo? The.

12:54

Utility company? A bunch of

12:57

money. Okay, who else might

12:59

you? Oh, And could

13:01

that that? Be. A reason

13:03

for. May. Be why no

13:05

one has. Heard from. I

13:08

think in cases like this, it's very common that

13:10

the police. Basically. Put a

13:12

microscope on everything and look

13:14

closely. At. Every little thing,

13:16

food and financial records to see if there

13:19

any clues are for them to. To

13:21

figure out what happened. Just. After

13:23

twelve thirty pm on August ninth,

13:26

Connecticut State Troopers found the Nathan's

13:28

missing pick truck at the Park

13:30

and Ride off of Merit Parkways

13:33

exit Forty Two. The. Passenger

13:35

door window had been shot. After.

13:38

It was parked. Near. The park

13:40

and ride and abandoned home

13:42

caught the attention of investigators

13:44

Westport Police Lieutenant Gillian Cabana.

13:47

So. Obvious signs of forced

13:49

entry. so she stepped inside.

13:51

And she found evidence connected to

13:54

the Navy. Multiple.

13:56

Jnj refuse business cards were

13:58

scattered about more. The lead

14:00

was an interesting development and

14:02

gave police something to work

14:04

with. It didn't explain where

14:06

the missing couple? What's. The. Same

14:08

day the truck was found, Investigators

14:10

interviewed and even son Kyle. According.

14:13

To him. He said he last

14:15

heard from his father, Jeffrey around noon on

14:17

August Fourth and they talked about work. Two.

14:20

Days later he was interviewed again. And.

14:22

This time his story changed. He. Said

14:24

that he had seen his mother that morning and

14:26

that they admit at the exit Forty Two Park

14:28

and Ride. According. The Kyle. Use

14:31

drive in the garbage truck. His. Mom got

14:33

in. And. They won on the route together

14:35

and tools back began to her him. He. Said

14:37

at that point he called his dad and arrange for

14:40

him to take over the route. At. Around

14:42

ten thirty am. They. Met up

14:44

with the Daybreak Nursery and Jeanette got

14:46

into Jeffries Truck. And that was the

14:48

last time he saw his parents. From. Their.

14:50

House. At he drove whose parents' home and

14:53

eastern to retrieve a paycheck is data taped

14:55

to the front door from. Then. He

14:57

drove back home the Bridgeport restate in bed

14:59

and rested for three days. Due.

15:01

To debilitating back pain. On

15:04

August thirteenth, How was interviewed a

15:06

third time. His. Story once

15:08

again change. He. Added that

15:11

he engineers had gone to Bridgeport

15:13

around nine twenty am on the

15:15

fourth because they needed paperwork with

15:17

his route information so that his

15:19

mother could take over for him.

15:22

Due. To the fact that how story

15:24

camp change. Please. Asked him

15:26

to take a polygraph exam and

15:28

he refused. Surely. After the

15:31

last interview with authorities how pack

15:33

some of his belongings and left

15:35

home. As. Is true in

15:37

many cases where foul play suspected

15:40

those closest to the victims are

15:42

always looked at first until they

15:44

can be ruled out is being

15:46

involved and to this point least

15:49

could not rule out com. And

15:51

I think it's pretty easy to see why

15:54

police can't. Rule. Out Kyle.

15:56

Yeah, I think any time a

15:59

person's. The War. Changes.

16:01

Multiple times. That's. A

16:03

red flag. A. Lot of times

16:05

police see the refusal of

16:07

a polygraph as a red

16:10

flag. I don't necessarily. See.

16:12

It that way. But. With.

16:15

All of this. Going. On you

16:17

could see why. Not. Only could

16:19

they not rule him out. I'm sure they were

16:21

looking at him. Pretty and Tim was.

16:24

And. When you find out

16:26

that you know. Shortly. After

16:28

the last interview he can have

16:30

packs up some sauce and and

16:32

elites okay that doesn't look good.

16:34

Eat. It. I don't think it's

16:36

uncommon for some buddies. Story changed

16:39

slightly. a blade miss. Remember something

16:41

where they just. Failed. To

16:43

mention of their first interview. But when

16:45

you have three different interviews in, the

16:48

story changes multiple times. I think that's

16:50

really what. Is a red flag the

16:52

police to fact he changed his story. So

16:54

many times And then. As

16:57

you mention, the. Polygraph. Test.

16:59

In. The eyes of please they're thinking hey, he's

17:01

going to want to cooperate and clear his name

17:04

and help. Get. Answers about what happened

17:06

is pairs when he didn't take that

17:08

polygraph test I think that's is elevated

17:10

him. on their radar law bit more.

17:13

And. I'm telling you right now. My

17:15

thoughts on polygraphs have

17:18

changed so dramatically since.

17:21

You know I started. Researching so

17:23

much true cross. I.

17:25

Don't think I would take any polygraph.

17:28

For. Any reason to day. I just

17:30

don't think I would do it. Because.

17:34

I. Would be so afraid. Of

17:36

failing even though I was

17:39

innocent. That. I'm

17:41

just not sure that. It. Would

17:43

be a a wise decision. Now.

17:45

I'm sure opinions vary, but. I

17:48

know now. I. Would be

17:50

extremely concerned, but let me put it

17:52

that way. Yeah. On one

17:54

hand, I would want to. Clear.

17:56

My name says the police are looking for the

17:58

right person if I know. I didn't do it. I'd.

18:01

Wanna cooperate? But. The same

18:03

time sort of long lens what you're

18:05

saying if somehow I'm telling the truth

18:07

and they think I'm not. Does.

18:09

That mean they're gonna. Spin. Their wills

18:11

and locking on me as a suspect. I

18:14

wouldn't want that. Wide. Good

18:16

Then you know depositions I've

18:18

testified in court. You know,

18:21

over the years. In those

18:23

instances I have been extremely

18:25

nervous. Mean. Those are

18:27

pressure cooker tight situations. My diet

18:29

is taking a lie detector test

18:32

my be along those same vein

18:34

so you know am I gonna

18:36

spike? Am I going cause the

18:38

needle to to do something that

18:41

makes me look guilty? It's just

18:43

for the mere fact that I'm

18:45

so nervous about taking the steps.

18:47

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18:49

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A. Closer look at the nave and cellphone

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Jeanette. Cell phone was using a tower near

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Pm. Jeffrey cell phone during his

20:04

final call also use that our. During.

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This time house phone was accessing

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the same tower. All of

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that pointed to clown his parents been

20:13

together. Something. House story didn't

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match. Text between clown Jeffrey

20:17

show much different version of that

20:19

day in call described. And. They

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were Starbucks. shown. That Jeffrey was

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Jeanette stop responding to texts and cause that

20:28

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20:32

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20:34

murder. According. To Cbs

20:36

News one of jeffries frantic

20:38

tax the cow read i'm

20:40

not going home. To I

20:42

know Mom is okay. Another. Taxed

20:45

read: Did. You hurt mom. Cow.

20:47

Responded with attacks The Red: No,

20:49

absolutely not. Why would you think

20:52

that? Jeffrey. Didn't believe ham.

20:54

He responded, i go home and

20:56

I get framed for murder. To.

20:58

Which cow replied oh stop

21:01

But Jeffery was apparently series.

21:03

His. Next text a cow read I'm

21:05

going to the Police first. One.

21:08

Of his final tax read, you

21:10

are setting me up. There. Were

21:12

sixty three calls. From. Jeffrey

21:14

to either Jeanette or Trial that

21:16

day. So. They're obviously was

21:19

a flurry of activity and Jeffery

21:21

clearly seem to know that something

21:23

was wrong. but for whatever reason,

21:26

He. Didn't go to the police. And

21:28

Twelve Twenty eight pm. Jeffrey.

21:30

Was that Westport wastage?

21:33

Bomb. Maker the way masseur remember

21:35

seeing him there on the way

21:38

scale screaming into his bunk. Meager.

21:40

Didn't know what he was yelling about

21:42

our who he was talking to, but

21:45

according to Westport now. He. Recalled

21:47

that it was very he'd. Phone.

21:49

Records show that at that moment. When.

21:52

Jeffrey was seen by Meeker. He was

21:54

talking to his car. And.

21:56

My first saw it here is. He.

21:58

Of ears. He. Say. The about

22:00

that number. Sixty. Three

22:03

calls. It seems like a big

22:05

number. In a really pull me so

22:07

the fact that. There. Was something

22:09

going on him when you couple that

22:11

with the tax. The. Definitely.

22:14

Provide. information in

22:16

the way of your what

22:19

was really being said. Things.

22:21

Are not looking good? Yeah. Think it's

22:24

pretty clear that. Jeffrey. When just

22:26

out of the blue. Start. Worrying

22:28

that something happened his wife and that

22:30

his son Kyle might be responsible. I.

22:33

Think there had to be something going on in

22:35

the background leading up to that. That.

22:37

Made him think that. That made him

22:39

suspect that. He was in danger that

22:41

his wife was in danger the he might be.

22:44

Framed. For Murder by Kyle. So something

22:46

big young on in the backroom. Yeah,

22:49

these are not your everyday kind of

22:51

tax or should I text a lot

22:54

with my two daughters. None

22:56

of them have ever gotten to see

22:58

it of this type of level. Think

23:00

about a father. Afraid

23:03

that his son is

23:05

Framingham for the murder.

23:08

Of you A, the wife them all.

23:10

This. Is very strange stop winter.

23:13

It's not concern like hey Kyle, have

23:15

you heard from Mom? I'm worried about

23:17

her? This is him. Flat out. accusing

23:20

pile of. Harming. Her so.

23:23

Very. Striking. According. To

23:25

Cbs News during a search of clown leave

23:27

It's Home. Divest. Your son a

23:29

receipt dated August fifth, Someone.

23:31

Either File or his girlfriend Jennifer Valiant,

23:33

he lived with him. Bought.

23:35

Dryer sheets, cleaning spray, Germicide.

23:39

Or bleach. Hair. Restrain opener.

23:41

Do. Gone stain remover in contractor

23:43

clean up bags from home depot.

23:46

The. Day after his parents were last seen. The.

23:48

Also found two guns. Ammunition.

23:51

Bags. With heroin residue in them. Hypodermic

23:54

needles, An empty prescription

23:56

bottles for Xanax and Oxycodone. Surveillance.

23:59

Photos from. People should both Jennifer

24:01

and Kyle shopping for the bleach. Drain.

24:04

Cleaner and Contractor Bags. When.

24:06

Questioned about their purchase. Jennifer.

24:08

Claim that they need the drain opener for

24:10

clause in an upstairs bathroom sink. The.

24:12

Cleaning spray and stain remover was explained

24:15

away to. She. Said the dogs had

24:17

recently thrown up and she needed to clean it

24:19

up. The. Bleach was for power laundry.

24:22

Probably. His underwear and teasers. She.

24:24

Mentioned that they wash their clothes separately.

24:26

But. Jennifer slips up a little bit when she tried

24:29

to explain the purchase of the bleach. She.

24:31

Explained that they needed bleeds to the all the

24:33

stuff that was going on on Wednesday. But.

24:36

She went elaborate on what she meant. As.

24:38

To what things were going on that Wednesday. But.

24:40

She did say that has been a mistake to say

24:42

what she said. There. Was another receipt

24:44

from August fifth to. Rent. To

24:46

Pm How went to Park City tactical.

24:49

An. Indoor Gun Range in Bridgeport. He

24:51

was there for about a half hour including shooting

24:54

and clean up. He. Told investigators that

24:56

he stopped shooting because his back was hurting

24:58

them so badly. And How

25:00

many cases? Have. We done

25:02

or you know have people.

25:05

Scene. Where. Someone.

25:07

Goes missing where someone is found

25:09

murdered and the next thing you

25:11

know. There's. A receipt from.

25:14

Home Depot or Lowes,

25:16

some hardware store, And.

25:20

Maybe. Even surveillance video as

25:22

well. But. It's the. Purchases

25:24

The things that are by

25:27

that. A her really

25:29

scrutinize. It. Is it's

25:31

bags, clean up type stuff,

25:34

in some cases, shovel and

25:36

line. Now. You can try.

25:39

As Jennifer did. To. Explain

25:41

some of this stuff away

25:43

because he could be. There.

25:45

Any of us would go to

25:48

Home Depot to buy these things.

25:50

I just say when it comes.

25:53

Online. So closely. To.

25:55

Someone's disappearance? Well, Then.

25:58

Obviously it's can be looked at. But.

26:00

The other thing that the really kind

26:03

of jumped out of me was your

26:05

child going to this gunnery. To.

26:07

Go Shooting. I thought

26:10

that was very strange because.

26:12

His his back was hurting

26:14

his badly as. He

26:17

said it was as has been

26:19

portrayed. Winning. One who you

26:21

know his gone shooting. Target

26:24

shooting your that recoil.

26:27

I couldn't have been good on

26:29

a really bad best. The. Especially

26:31

because you have to stand like in a

26:33

sitting position and. Put. Your arms out

26:35

and. It doesn't seem was comfortable position

26:38

if you have back problems. Know. Just

26:40

seem like a really strange shorts.

26:43

To. Go Shoot! A closer

26:45

look at how cell records

26:47

and tax also revealed that

26:49

he and his girlfriend Jennifer

26:51

often spoke about using drugs.

26:54

They. Had been together for four years

26:56

and lived together for most of that

26:58

time. According to Cbs

27:00

News, months before, Jeffrey and

27:02

Jeanette disappear. Caltech. Said

27:05

Jennifer that he had thought of a

27:07

perfect plan. That. Would set them

27:09

up with money for life. Because.

27:11

His plan which he referred to as

27:13

a plan to wipe out the and

27:15

section. As he called it. Would.

27:17

Solve every single problem, And.

27:20

Give us a wealthy! Amazing! What?

27:23

If. They were successful in their place. He.

27:25

Told her they would have hundreds

27:27

of thousands of dollars to buy

27:30

my truck and you a new

27:32

car and enjoy life taking baking.

27:35

Having. Fun with friends, no

27:37

stress, no contact ever again

27:40

with bad people. Investigators

27:42

realize Exile was selling at least

27:44

part of his oxycodone prescription. One.

27:46

Of his buyers was interviewed and had

27:49

key information. According. To Cbs

27:51

News on August fifth, days

27:53

before Jeffrey Jeanette reported missing.

27:55

How told as buyer. That. He was

27:58

dealing with a lot of families. then

28:00

it look like his parents for missing. This.

28:02

Was at odds with the fact that called

28:04

told the police he had no idea anything

28:06

was wrong. Until. He spoke to his

28:08

uncle on August six. A. Day after,

28:10

he mentioned his parents were missing to Aspire.

28:13

To more If I don't think I'm really

28:15

going out on a limb here by saying.

28:17

Cows. Not looking real great. right?

28:20

At this point in the store. You.

28:23

Have the cell phone data that puts

28:25

him. Kenny. In the area

28:27

of his parents. At the

28:29

time the dirt dirt thought to have gone

28:32

missing. You. Have the drug

28:34

aspect. In. The fact that

28:36

he was using an selling.

28:39

And. Then you have. Some. Of

28:41

these, tax. To. Jennifer. Okay,

28:44

I've got. This plan is going to set

28:46

us up for life. And I'm

28:48

always amazed. That. People

28:50

don't think some of these things they

28:52

sent electronically are going to come back

28:55

to bite them in the air. You.

28:57

Know how his cow planning

28:59

to get hundreds of thousands

29:02

of dollars? And. What?

29:04

Is this term Wipe Out The

29:06

insects? Is. Kind of

29:09

hard not to say that it's

29:11

all rule leading back. To

29:13

his pair. And cows

29:16

case? it's not. One. Or

29:18

two little things that. Make. Him look

29:20

bad. It's a. Similar. Amount

29:23

of things just piling up on him

29:25

against him that are probably to setting

29:27

off red flag. And. Bells and

29:30

whistles for police and I'm shirt. By this point

29:32

they were locked in on him as. Being

29:34

involved in his parents disappearance. Yeah.

29:36

Based on everything we talked about at

29:39

this point. I. Don't know.

29:41

How. They couldn't have been looking

29:43

at him. As you know,

29:45

suspect number One. Though. He

29:48

lived in Mississippi. Cows

29:50

younger brother Taylor, suspected

29:52

him almost immediately. He.

29:54

Told Cbs News when I heard my

29:56

parents were missing, I thought to myself.

29:59

These. Are. Went on vacation. Or.

30:01

My brother did something to the. The.

30:04

Family relationship had apparently never

30:06

been. Grades in two thousand

30:09

Six. The. Department of Children

30:11

and Families had been called due

30:13

to jeffries a most know and

30:15

verbal abuse of caught. The. Relationships

30:18

which Taylor describe to The

30:20

Trumbo Times as not good

30:22

at all. Was. Sort of

30:24

as normal within the same. According.

30:26

To tailor. It's. Always been

30:28

like that. On. August Twenty

30:31

first investigators are cows girlfriend

30:33

Jennifer Valley anti. But. She

30:35

didn't have much to say. According

30:37

oxygen.com. Many. Of our

30:39

answers for sort simple answers like I don't

30:42

know. Or I don't remember. But.

30:44

During the interview. Jennifer. Told

30:46

detectives that Kyle really likes his

30:48

gun. He also admitted that Cloud asked

30:50

her to drive behind him in her car while

30:52

he drove his dad's truck. He drove

30:54

to his parents right at home and Easton. And.

30:57

Cow park the truck before getting and Jennifer's

30:59

car. They. Then drove back to Breeze,

31:01

put together. This. Is all confirmed

31:03

by surveillance video. So. I

31:05

wouldn't call. You know these

31:08

answers by Jennifer Bombshells by

31:10

It's just like with everything

31:12

else, right? None. Of

31:14

it makes cow look good. New.

31:16

Y z. Driving. His

31:19

dad's track. Parking. The

31:21

track it at their rented home and

31:23

then getting in a car with Jennifer.

31:26

These are things that. He's.

31:28

Going to have to explain and

31:30

this comment did she may said

31:32

he really likes his gun. I

31:35

found was a a strange comment

31:37

as well. On September

31:39

eighth town they than was arrested

31:41

on federal gun charges resulting from

31:44

the discovery of the to firearms

31:46

during a search of his home.

31:48

According to Cbs News and

31:51

unlawful use or of and

31:53

a person addicted to heroin

31:55

by law possessing firearms is

31:58

illegal. Counter. To Please

32:00

Not guilty, but was held on a

32:02

bond of two and a half million

32:04

dollars. He was held at the Wyatt

32:07

Detention Facility in Rhode Island. Where.

32:09

He had fled to after his third

32:11

interview with police. Cows. Girlfriend

32:13

Jennifer was arrested and charged

32:15

with conspiracy to commit murder.

32:18

And. Hindering prosecution. The.

32:20

Judge said her bail. At

32:22

two. Million dollars. For. Her

32:24

part. Jennifer. Denied any knowledge of

32:26

or any role in the murders. Or.

32:29

Attorney Elliott Warren told Cbs News.

32:31

She. Was looking for cows parents as soon as

32:34

she realized they were missing. And. Trying to

32:36

help find them. Were. Sad were disappointed

32:38

at the needs of the charges. Were.

32:40

Looking forward to being court and stab us

32:42

in her innocence. While. Jennifer's defense

32:45

attorney seem to defend her. It.

32:47

Was cleared. Investigators that house text to

32:49

her about his master plan for getting

32:51

money. It. Was always both of them

32:53

as a T. One. Of the text

32:55

from cause Jennifer read. That. Allows stay

32:58

in our house and pay for a

33:00

full Top Line remodel. New garage. Attorney

33:02

L it warned denied that these tax for

33:04

about harming the Navy's. Adding that

33:06

they have been taken out of context. Whatever.

33:09

She thought the plan was. He seemed

33:11

to have some reservations. One. Response

33:13

from heard of: How about this plan read.

33:15

I. Hear? Yeah! It. Sounds very good.

33:18

I just don't know. And

33:20

I want to go back to these

33:22

are ras send these behind them out.

33:24

And. The charges. You. Jennifer

33:27

is charged with conspiracy to

33:29

commit murder. Gets. A

33:31

two million dollar. Fail. Kyle.

33:35

Was. Arrested and charged with

33:37

illegal possession of. Firearms.

33:40

Think. It's two and a half million

33:42

dollars. But my. Diet is

33:44

they had to have know. That.

33:46

More charges were com.

33:49

It seems strange for him to have a

33:51

higher bailed than. Than. Her.

33:54

Based. Solely on those charged. Yeah.

33:56

I get the sense that they were probably. Building

33:58

more of a case against him. They

34:00

charged him with what they initially could. And.

34:02

Then once he felt. Strong. Enough with

34:05

the rest of the theresa would bring them at a

34:07

later point. At the time

34:09

of the Nathan's disappearance, Jennifer worked

34:11

at the dump. Leading. Investigators

34:14

to search landfills in the

34:16

area A search of the

34:18

Putnam Ass residue land so.

34:20

A. One hundred and eighty six

34:23

acre size used as a dump

34:25

site for as from waste energy

34:27

plants all over Connecticut turned up

34:29

no evidence. While. Police searched

34:32

for house parents. Not. Once

34:34

did cow call investigates for

34:36

an update on his parents'

34:38

whereabouts or the state of

34:40

the case. This. Was no

34:42

did as suspicious and Jennifer

34:44

valley and taste arrest warrant.

34:47

Despite. The uphill battle and lack of

34:49

evidence. Please. Kept searching for

34:51

the missing couple. convinced. That.

34:54

Their son was at the center of

34:56

their disappear. In this

34:58

is something fascinating to me that

35:00

I don't know. A lot

35:03

of people. Perpetrators.

35:05

Think. About. right? It's not

35:08

only what you do. That.

35:10

Stands out to police.

35:12

Sometimes it's what you

35:14

don't do. You. Here.

35:17

In. This situation. House

35:19

parents are missing. And. Not

35:21

once did he call investigate

35:23

saying. Hey. What's going on? Can

35:26

you give me an update? On. The

35:28

search for my parents. Well. Couldn't

35:30

possibly be because he doesn't

35:32

need an update. He already

35:34

knows what happened to the. Yeah

35:37

think most people the rubble and was

35:39

missing. They'd. Be camp out at

35:41

the Playstation trying to get updates every day.

35:43

To the points more the police are saying.

35:46

You'll. Give us a break will. Call. You when we

35:48

hear something but. Here's. The complete opposite

35:50

he has no interest in funny. I was gonna.

35:53

Well. We'd done many disappearance cases.

35:55

I mean, how many times have

35:57

we talked about? you know, the

35:59

parents? The a missing.

36:02

Person. Or. The family of

36:04

a missing persons not only

36:06

housing police for information but

36:09

sometimes even coming out to

36:11

the media. And. You're.

36:13

Kind of bashing. The. Authorities

36:16

for. What? They perceive

36:18

to be out a lack of.

36:21

Effort. So. The fact that.

36:23

You. As the sign, you're not

36:25

even wanting to know what's going

36:28

on. Yeah. Huge red flag.

36:30

While. Landfills didn't yield any evidence House,

36:33

car and home. However, we're both

36:35

full of. And. Warrants allowed. Please

36:37

define and collect. Units blood

36:39

was found the passenger seat of class

36:41

truck. Which. Also had to bullet holes

36:43

in it. Based. On where the bullet

36:46

holes were. Investigators. Believe Jeanette

36:48

had been shot in the chest. A.

36:50

The seatbelt suggested that she had been buckled in

36:52

when she was shot. Jeffries bloodless. Found

36:54

the basement of Cause Home. A.

36:56

Large area of the carpet in the basement have

36:58

been cut out and was missing. The. Back

37:01

door of his home had the glass broken out of it.

37:03

The. Debris from this was still in the trash.

37:06

Suggesting. It had happened recently. The.

37:08

Evidence that Cloud kills parents was

37:10

overwhelming. So that same and

37:12

more of that. He of

37:14

the evidence was overwhelming. It's.

37:17

Almost and under. State.

37:19

And I think the other

37:21

thing is that we're not

37:23

talking about. You know, a

37:25

mastermind criminal? Here. Obviously.

37:29

The. Things that they bought it Home Depot.

37:31

And. Whatever they thought they were going

37:33

to do with said. Obviously

37:36

didn't work. Exactly.

37:38

The way that the say thought it. Would.

37:41

You. Do gone is is great

37:43

stuff but. To completely

37:45

erase all traces of

37:48

blood. As we've found

37:50

out, In. Many episodes.

37:52

Is. A tall order. Of. Being

37:55

you know, the bullet holes in the tracks.

37:57

A large area of carpet. Being.

38:00

Missing all these things

38:02

are just screaming out.

38:05

right? That. Something. Bad

38:08

happened both inside the

38:10

track. And. In

38:12

the house. And. He.

38:14

Didn't even get rid of the stuff in

38:16

the trash, she was still there. Yeah.

38:19

I'm on one hand it seems like he's trying

38:21

to cover it up but any other hand is

38:23

just not caring and out that while I'm in.

38:25

did he think that the police were gonna. Eventually

38:28

see didn't get all holes in his in

38:30

his car seats. I just. I

38:32

wonder if part of it is the

38:35

drugs that they is clouded his mind

38:37

and enough he just wasn't able to

38:39

think clearly and of the train. Covered.

38:41

Up and Know luckily you for the

38:43

police. He didn't cover it up and

38:46

it made the case against him that

38:48

much stronger. According

38:50

to Cbs News, less than

38:52

a week before her disappearance,

38:54

Jeanette told one of her

38:57

close friends that's how was

38:59

very tempestuous. And. That he had

39:01

been using drugs, He wasn't paying them

39:03

for the mortgage or any of the

39:05

taxes on the home they bought for

39:07

him. He owed them at least a

39:09

hundred and thirty three thousand dollar. She.

39:12

Also told her friend that they were

39:14

going to remove cow from there will.

39:17

Once. They sold their business and

39:19

stopped supporting him financially. This.

39:21

Proposed deal with Vento.

39:23

Refuse men that how

39:26

wouldn't inherit. Jnj refuse

39:28

from them as he

39:30

expected. According to The Connecticut

39:32

Post, Jeanette. Told a friend

39:34

that how beyond his own without

39:37

any financial support from the same.

39:39

She. Was so of said as she

39:41

revealed what was going on that. She

39:44

was crying. On top of this that

39:46

to his parents and the threat of being

39:48

cut out of their will. And laugh

39:50

without a job. How was struggling

39:53

with an addiction to opiates? A.

39:55

Confidential informant told investigators that

39:58

in the months before. Nathan's

40:00

disappeared. House Daily habit

40:02

had gone from costing him

40:05

about one hundred and fifty

40:07

dollars a day dubbed to

40:09

six hundred dollars every day.

40:12

To keep up appearances and obviously

40:14

to keep from going into severe

40:16

would. The. One thing

40:18

he couldn't lose was his

40:21

access to month. So.

40:23

No doubt this was

40:25

a pretty severe addiction.

40:27

You. When you think about six hundred

40:30

dollars a day. Approximately eighteen

40:32

thousand dollars a month.

40:35

That's a lot of money. As

40:37

a lot of drugs. And at

40:39

what point? Does. A person

40:41

get desperate. Especially if

40:44

they find out that there are

40:46

about ready to be cut off.

40:48

Financially. And think that's what

40:51

we're looking at, you. Get. That

40:53

it's a very clear. Motors.

40:56

As a police seized on it. How

40:58

did seem to have a legitimate back injury.

41:01

Like. So many who sadly ends up

41:03

addicted to opiates, painkillers, It. Started

41:05

with an actual need to kill physical pain.

41:08

And. Ended in a never ending quest to

41:10

just stay. Okay. He. Was being seen

41:13

for this back injury by a doctor's

41:15

office called Pain and Spine Specialist. But.

41:17

In June, two thousand and sixteen. One.

41:19

Of the required drug test he had to take

41:21

to comply with the program. Showed. That

41:24

he been using heroine. This. Was

41:26

against the narcotic agreement he signed and use

41:28

kicked out of the program. And

41:30

this would line up with the time that

41:32

file had started to spend up to four

41:34

hundred dollars more on heroin everyday. According

41:37

to Westport Now, it was

41:39

also around June two thousand

41:41

and sixteen that Jeffrey neighbor

41:44

called Darlene Vento of Vento

41:46

refuse sounding anxious and desperate.

41:48

During. The call he mentioned cow was

41:51

missing a lot of work. And.

41:53

The business was suffering it

41:55

seem that both are the

41:57

Nathan's were concerned about and

41:59

disappointed with. They're older son. For.

42:01

Their parts both cow and

42:03

his girlfriend Jennifer denied any

42:05

knowledge of child's parents will

42:07

lower states. Jennifer. Downplayed or

42:09

claimed as a Nathan's were getting rid

42:12

of fouls trash route but only because

42:14

he had hurt his back in needed

42:16

time to rest. He. Was also

42:19

considering having back surgery and would

42:21

need to recover from that before

42:23

he can return to work in

42:25

Covers Wrap. It. Was temporary as

42:27

far as she was concerned. But.

42:30

No. Doubt a cloud of suspicion

42:33

hung over. On October

42:35

twenty ninth, Human remains were discovered

42:37

in the backyard of an abandoned home and

42:39

western. The. Homeowner, his son, and

42:41

a third person helping them. Are

42:44

trying to thirty yards with the skids, Dear

42:46

machine. When. They found something that was

42:48

deathly not normal. your debris. The. Bodies

42:50

were wrapped in plastic contractor bags filled

42:52

with duct tape. And. Covered by

42:55

blue Tarp which is covered by Lee's.

42:57

Dna. And dental records confirm that these

42:59

are the remains of Jeanette Jeffrey name and.

43:02

But. None of the investigators were surprised.

43:04

Both. Bodies were found wearing Jj

43:07

refusers. Edmunds killed by a

43:09

forty caliber handgun. A. Bull is

43:11

recovered from jealous chest. And

43:13

a second boat was Rocklin from Jeffries pelvic

43:15

area. The. Properties and even for found

43:17

on had been vacant for ran a decade. But.

43:20

It had once been the home of one

43:22

of Kevin's friends, Ryan Kerrigan, They. Had

43:24

lost touch but obviously car remember

43:27

the location. And it turned

43:29

out there is Brian in his Father

43:31

Thomas Fountain at Jefferies remains. Police.

43:33

Wasted no time in charge and found the

43:35

with his parents murders. And now they

43:37

had a lot of evidence to build a case against him. In

43:40

November two thousand and seventeen. Jennifer.

43:43

Valiant a now thirty two

43:45

years olds took in offered

43:47

plea. Deal. On a

43:49

hindering. Prosecution. Charge

43:51

him with sensei years in prison. An.

43:54

Additional a year suspended in

43:56

five years of probation. There

43:59

were also over. Firemen serve drug addiction

44:01

treatment and mental health evaluation. She

44:04

was not admitting guilt, but agreed

44:06

with the state that their case

44:08

was strong enough for a jury

44:11

to convict or so. despite pleading

44:13

guilty, She. Maintains her

44:15

innocence, In court Superior

44:17

Court Judge Robert Devlin scolded

44:19

her saying you could have

44:22

stopped the man. You. Really

44:24

could have. He. Added the real

44:26

regret to me. And I

44:28

hope to you is that you did

44:30

not take the opportunity to stop it.

44:33

Because. You really could have. Jennifer.

44:35

Had nothing to say to the

44:37

judge during her sentencing hearing. Looking.

44:40

Closer seems Jennifer seem to share

44:42

cause resentment of his father. She.

44:44

Said multiple text of how about jeffrey.

44:46

And. Has parents didn't treat him fairly. One.

44:49

May two thousand and sixteen text read.

44:52

That. Pos has to be in charge

44:54

of everyone. Everything at all times. By.

44:56

July two months later, He. Seemed

44:59

even angrier in or text. Saying.

45:01

I don't like that they call the shots. Jennifer

45:04

ask how. Did. You put them

45:06

in their place for accusing us of hiding. When.

45:09

Counseling that he didn't bring up. whatever flight.

45:11

She. Was referring to. Because. They

45:13

have been nice to him that day she said. You.

45:16

Should regulate that shit. The. Hatred

45:18

for cows pairs continued to

45:20

bill according to Westport Now

45:22

in August, just days before

45:25

their deaths, Jennifer Ask: how

45:27

did you ask your mom why

45:29

she told your dad you were

45:31

sit talking about. Comp and

45:33

you're lousy. Pay. And.

45:35

Did you tell her how you got

45:37

verbally abused? For. Having a broken

45:40

back in simply asking about

45:42

your tax money and paycheck.

45:44

Even. If cow was ready to lead ago.

45:46

It. Seemed as if Jennifer wasn't.

45:49

She was basically making sure that

45:52

he stayed angry at his parents.

45:54

She reminded tile texting don't feel

45:56

like you're being pushy, That's your

45:59

money. When you don't go to

46:01

work there on the phone with you non

46:03

stop bitching Eve. So. When they

46:05

don't pay, you should be doing the

46:07

same thing. On April sixteen, two

46:09

thousand and eighteen just one day before you

46:11

set to go to trial. Twenty. Nine

46:13

Euro Com even changed his plea to guilty.

46:16

Before. Sentencing: How to fifty five years

46:18

in prison? The judge told cow

46:20

that he was black hearted. Yasser,

46:23

Seed fifty five years for each charge

46:25

of murder. But. Since they are

46:27

concurrent sentences. The. Total of fifty five

46:29

years with no possibility of parole. Fall

46:32

used his time to speak generally a

46:34

time for offering remorse or a message

46:36

to the victims and those affected. To.

46:38

Say. I. Don't want to be a

46:40

show pony for the media. It's

46:42

disgraceful. Disgusting. Everything from

46:45

the beginning on my behalf. I

46:47

don't wanna be a show

46:49

pony for the media. I.

46:51

Don't even know what the hell that

46:53

me? Year. He said it

46:55

more of that. Time. That.

46:58

A person. You. Know gets

47:00

to speak a lot of

47:02

times most times. That's.

47:04

A chance to be remorse

47:06

for. To. Send a message

47:09

to the victims. Victims. Families.

47:12

He can even do that. All.

47:14

He can say is that I don't want

47:16

to be a show pony for the media.

47:19

I. Think it tells you a lot about discuss.

47:22

And there's not much in the way remorse, If

47:24

anything, it sounds like she's. Upset that

47:26

he's gonna get some negative attention of. Though.

47:29

Jeanette Jeffrey had not changed the

47:31

world. They signed and Nineteen Eighty

47:34

Seven leaving all of their state

47:36

to Cow and Taylor. Under.

47:38

Connecticut state law cows not

47:40

able to inherit cent Since

47:42

he was found guilty of

47:44

their murders, he lost literally

47:46

everything. Any didn't gain

47:48

anything from. His. Parents seem

47:51

to care about him and likely to

47:53

abuse their resources to help him get

47:55

back on his feet in into a

47:57

good treatment program. He. Had a

47:59

house and the name in could have

48:02

provided for himself. Engine for. But

48:04

it. Seems like they were so bitter. Said.

48:06

Even just the threat. Of

48:09

some tough love. Sent. Them

48:11

over the yet. And. In that

48:13

was a thought that I did halves

48:15

you know, as we were talking about.

48:18

Jeffrey. Engineer. As it

48:20

relates to Kyle, it does

48:22

seem as though. They. Had

48:24

provided a lot for him. In

48:27

works insinuate. Raider was

48:29

kind of this thread of. Your.

48:32

We can't keep doing this. We

48:34

can't keep supporting you. Did.

48:36

May send him over the air. Discuss.

48:39

How was like twenty five? Twenty six

48:41

years old? When. These murders

48:43

happen. So. You.

48:46

They had been supporting him,

48:48

helping to support him for

48:50

a very long time. Adding.

48:52

Much longer. Than.

48:55

Most. Parents. Financially.

48:58

Support their salt. I

49:01

think back about. Your. The time that

49:03

I was twenty five, twenty six years old, I

49:05

was definitely on my own. I

49:07

was not getting any supports

49:10

financially. From. My parents?

49:12

Emotionally? Yeah, sure.

49:14

But. They weren't giving me money to

49:16

help me lip. And in here

49:19

he's got a house that they have helped

49:21

him to be in and you know they

49:23

gave him a role in the company. Is.

49:25

Working there so he it's not like they

49:27

just turn their backs on I meet a

49:29

were supporting him to some degree in it

49:31

sounds like maybe they just. Got to

49:33

a point where they didn't know how to deal. With.

49:36

His drug problem and it was just

49:38

wearing on them and. I'm.

49:40

At What point? Does. Someone to

49:42

say i can't do this anymore and that maybe

49:44

they were said that point and he didn't. Like.

49:47

Hearing that he didn't like finding out that

49:49

they were. Gonna cut off the

49:51

the finances from. And. Maybe

49:53

they saw it at a certain point.

49:55

They were just enabling him. To

49:58

continue to use. Drugs.

50:00

We mention the right. At one point

50:02

he had a six hundred dollar a

50:04

day have. Well. Where.

50:07

Was he getting the money to? Buy.

50:09

Those drunk. And. Maybe his parents

50:11

saw it. To help them.

50:14

They. Had to cut him off. Our I'm

50:16

I'm speculating a little bit,

50:18

but at a certain point.

50:21

I. Deeds. Dad. Does enter

50:23

the month. Of some parents.

50:26

Your. We don't. Want. Our son

50:28

or daughter to continue to use

50:30

drugs. We don't know how to

50:32

help them. We've. Tried we done

50:34

this with done that. The one thing

50:36

that. That. We can do is stop

50:39

giving them money. Stop. Enabling

50:41

them. According. To The

50:43

Daily Beast, One of Jennifer's

50:45

relatives speaking anonymously said. Jennifer.

50:48

Had a drug problem for a long time. And

50:50

revealed that it wasn't rare in their family to

50:53

be addicted to some substance. They. Weren't

50:55

surprised that Jennifer was involved in the Merv.

50:57

That expressed a bit of remorse for being unable

50:59

to stop her from heading down that path. They.

51:02

Said. Would. You have an entire family

51:04

unit like that. What? Do you do? It's.

51:07

Like going into a pack of wild dogs and

51:09

trying to tame one of them. While. The

51:11

rest of them are tearing apart. Snotty.

51:13

Easy. right? This. Opiate.

51:16

Epidemic. Thanks. A

51:18

lot of people. And I see

51:21

give you have like in in

51:23

this case with this person is

51:25

saying the entire family. Doing.

51:27

It at what honey help just one of

51:29

them. That would be very tough.

51:32

And when you're event environment and it's

51:34

around you. That. It's hard to

51:36

escape that. The. Nave and family was

51:38

well known in their community. Jeffrey.

51:41

And Jeanette had both graduated from

51:43

high school in Westport and cow

51:45

played sports and was while like.

51:48

He. Was the co captain of is hockey

51:50

team. In two thousand and six many

51:53

people were shocked by it's not only

51:55

the murders but that's how could have

51:57

anything to do with. Joe.

51:59

Them sneakers, Who knew the nave and

52:01

through. Kyle in Taylor's hockey team told

52:04

The New York Times. It's. Just

52:06

mind boggling. None. Of it

52:08

makes sense. John. Inglehart who

52:10

hadn't known the nave and since

52:12

their children were all in high

52:14

school, told The Daily Beast. it's

52:16

beyond heartbreak. These. Are real people?

52:19

And they're all good people. The. Shock

52:21

doesn't were all. In February

52:23

Two thousand, Twenty three. Jennifer.

52:25

Valiant. He was released from prison. By.

52:27

Summer that year she was arrested

52:30

after she failed to register for

52:32

the Connecticut State Police. Deadly.

52:34

Weapon Offender Registry Unit. After

52:36

release from prison. It. Was a

52:38

a farm and she had to fulfill within fourteen

52:41

days of a release. So. Warrant was

52:43

issued for arrest. She. Was charged

52:45

with violation of deadly weapon Offender

52:47

registry. It's unclear as now what

52:49

the outcome this arrest was. How

52:51

naive and remains in prison. So

52:54

here's what I don't get. You. Have

52:56

a prison sentence. And

52:58

they tell you. Your

53:01

about ready to get out. I

53:03

don't know what they're feeling. Must be

53:05

like I've never been in prison. knock

53:07

on wood. I never have to find

53:09

out. What? It's like, but

53:12

in Jennifer's case, You.

53:14

Know more if they had to have

53:16

told her. explicitly.

53:19

Here's. What You have to do. Within.

53:21

Fourteen days of being

53:23

released. And. She failed. To

53:26

do It. Why? Do. You

53:28

want to go back to prison?

53:30

I'm sure it's not that tough

53:32

to go to wherever you have

53:34

to go in and do this

53:36

registration. It was deathly a second chance

53:39

for her to. Stand. Right side

53:41

of the lawns data prison. And you

53:43

know I don't. Think we have

53:45

any evidence to support this, but maybe she

53:47

went back to her own. Lifestyle.

53:49

And started using drugs again in just

53:51

lost track of what she was supposed

53:54

do as pure. Speculation.

53:56

But. You. Have to wonder. Why?

53:58

Eight it and it wouldn't be. The first time.

54:01

And. It always. Baffles

54:03

me. That. Knew. Someone

54:05

is in prison for x amount of

54:08

time. You. Would think that would

54:10

be have a place where. You.

54:12

Would get clean. Although there are drugs

54:15

in prison, we know that if you

54:17

want them. But. The number

54:19

of times that people get out

54:21

and just go right back. To.

54:23

Doing what they were doing before. We.

54:25

Seen it time and time again. I

54:28

Now, like you said, we don't know that's

54:30

what happened, but it definitely. Could. Have

54:32

been. As we mentioned at the beginning

54:35

of this upset. The. Mode is

54:37

in this case was greed and

54:39

I think he would definitely have

54:41

to say fueled. At

54:43

least in part, maybe a

54:45

large part by drug use. And.

54:48

It was a deadly combination that

54:50

rip the nave and family apart.

54:53

So. As we wrap this one up.

54:55

It's always tough for me to

54:58

come to terms. With. The

55:00

fact that. A family

55:02

member. makes the decision,

55:04

That. Their best course of

55:07

action. Is. To

55:09

kill. One. Or more.

55:11

Members. Of their family. I

55:13

will never understand it. The

55:16

going back to something that that

55:18

you said. Your. How much

55:20

I love. How and.

55:23

Maybe. Jennifer's thinking as

55:25

well was clouded. By.

55:28

This addiction to. Oxy.

55:31

And heroin and and whatever else

55:33

it was I'm sure that had.

55:36

A lot to do it. But. The fact

55:38

that you could sit down, And

55:41

say. Here's. What we have to

55:43

do. We. Have to kill these people.

55:45

In order to. Continue

55:48

to live our lives the way

55:50

that we want to and. Will.

55:52

Even better are locked. It's. Because.

55:55

We're going to get a bunch of money and we

55:57

can. You. Be on easy street.

55:59

Is. Hard to fathom how

56:01

had conversation goes down and

56:04

how people agree. That.

56:06

That course of action is the way to go.

56:08

Yeah, there's no voice of reason there's say

56:10

hey this isn't a good idea in trouble

56:13

for this is is right. In.

56:15

I wonder if it's because they're both

56:17

using drugs and under the influence? They

56:19

can't. Make. Decisions that

56:21

they might make if they were

56:23

sober and and clean. And.

56:25

To me, a large part of this was

56:27

that. You know, six hundred dollar

56:30

a day? have? What? Am I gonna

56:32

do? I have to have These

56:34

drugs. In. Order to have these

56:36

drugs, I need to have money. So.

56:39

Here's how I'm going to get it.

56:41

I think that was a large part

56:43

of this case. I really do. It's.

56:45

Sad, but. I think it's the

56:47

truth. It's very unfortunate that it.

56:50

Tore. The family apart the way that it did. But.

56:52

That said, far episode on Jeffrey

56:55

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