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Hey, everybody. This is Armando Torres, and

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you're listening to the show before the show.

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And I page Wesley. And with us we

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have. Regrets.

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A lot of them. Gilts

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about DMX's catalog. Oh,

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yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

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Go through your spotify's and clear out all

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that playlist with the r Kelly DMX,

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a little bit of nozz in there. But

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then keep all of your g z apparently.

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Anyway, look. Even though he totally stabbed

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back. Yeah.

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Oh my god. Hey, look, this

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is a good episode. It's very fun.

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I had a blast and also there's only

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two more of these left including this one.

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So I think you're gonna love

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it as well. We dive into Kanye political

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wanted to listen to since I told you about

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Let's hop into the show. Hello.

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Hello. Hello.

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Tactical Bath on sale now. 4

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the purposes of this podcast, we define

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a cult as organizations that

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rally behind an entity 4 leader who espouse

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beliefs outside the

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norm. Organizations

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as a condition of membership.

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Organizations in which the doctrine followed by leaders

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or different than that or the followers. Organizations

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in which isolation is encouraged either

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by commune living or by a policy

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of disconnect from outside

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relationships. In organizations that

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actively recruit new members, all

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cults might have some or all of these traits,

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and as always These are our

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opinions. Thank you for

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tuning in to cult podcast on Page Wesley.

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And I'm Armando Torres. And

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with us, we have several

2:34

weeks of vacation that seemingly didn't

2:36

help me feel better about covering Kanye

2:39

West. The illusion of being

2:41

self rested Yay.

2:45

Yes. Yeah. Hello,

2:47

everybody. We're back. We took a what?

2:50

We took what? I'm calling a holiday

2:52

holiday hiatus, but was actually

2:55

just several weeks in a row of

2:57

of working on others. But That

2:59

is true. I mean, it did start with

3:02

me on a cruise in

3:04

Europe and then continued with

3:06

my husband being very very sick when we

3:09

got home -- Yes. -- and then Christmas

3:11

and then came back as

3:13

you were then ordered to Texas

3:15

last minute. Yeah. And

3:18

4 reference, if you know anything about the Wesley

3:20

family, you know that Christmas and celebrating

3:23

it is a full time job. Full

3:25

time. Yeah. You're making cookies.

3:28

Turn. You're making tournaments, which

3:30

isn't even a bit, like, you you make

3:32

them. Well, the ornament changes the

3:34

first weekend in January or in December.

3:36

So that had already happened. But yeah.

3:39

I forgot. Yeah. You'd been contracted out

3:42

long before Yes. Yes. Yes.

3:44

Yes. I have a standing ornament appointment.

3:46

Yeah. I was I

3:50

was ordered out, shipped out to Texas

3:52

to Austin. I

3:55

filmed something in December

3:57

and then we filmed more

4:00

stuff that was oh my god.

4:02

It's so fun and I really can't wait to talk

4:04

about it. And

4:06

it and it'll I'll definitely

4:08

announce it whenever we're allowed but

4:11

they also kept me there to offset

4:13

the costs. This is a peak behind the curtain

4:15

for budgeting. They offset the cost

4:18

by keeping me there and having me film

4:20

other content. So we

4:22

like, on my birthday, by the way,

4:24

which is Yeah. I was

4:24

gonna ask. I was like, did you just shoot

4:27

stuff on your birthday? Absolutely, vapey.

4:31

On Wednesday, January eleventh,

4:33

I filmed two podcasts

4:36

and a Let's Roll, which is

4:38

a board game show for achievement

4:40

Hunter. And I

4:42

filmed a video that is on my Instagram

4:44

where Gavin Free

4:47

pushed me on a scooter and then let

4:49

go when I was at top speed and I

4:51

fell and hurt my knee.

4:53

I saw that. I was like, no.

4:56

That's how

4:56

I'm bringing in twenty seven. I'm in my

4:59

late twenties now, baby. Yes.

5:03

Every late twenties birthday comes with

5:05

one of those orthopedic boots.

5:09

What a wild concept? If you've been

5:11

listening to the show for long enough, you get to

5:13

hear me go from being like what? Twenty

5:15

two or something to just age. You

5:17

were twenty you were twenty

5:20

when we started because I

5:22

remember you could not legally drink

5:24

-- Oh my god. -- with Maria and

5:26

I, like, the first couple websites. And

5:28

then you turned twenty

5:30

one, and we had to inform Marie

5:32

that you had not been twenty one

5:34

that entire time. What a

5:40

great experiment 247

5:42

see if recording your twenties

5:44

on a podcast every

5:46

week. Frees out. Not a great idea. Yeah.

5:48

You know who would know about that? Mister

5:51

Kanye of the West. Yeah.

5:54

Yeah. Oh, god. And before we

5:56

get into it, I wanna go over our

5:58

sources We have a

6:00

biography on Kanye West written

6:02

by Audrey Boris and Douglas Lynn.

6:04

We have an exclusive interview

6:06

with Kanye's former associates by

6:09

Cheyenne Roundtree for Rolling Stone.

6:11

And that comes in a little bit this

6:13

week, but is mostly going to be next

6:16

week, which fucking, hey,

6:18

spoiler alert. There's

6:20

gonna be one more. When we

6:22

had to take a break, a, to make sure

6:24

that we captured all of the current Kanye

6:26

happenings. Mhmm. That meant adding

6:28

two episodes to

6:30

our originally intended list.

6:32

So Here's one more after this.

6:34

Yeah. I decided that that

6:36

I didn't wanna sort

6:38

of gloss over some smaller stuff

6:41

or or really I just didn't wanna condense

6:44

everything into one smaller episode.

6:46

So I split them up in 247. And

6:48

now, you get to be just as frustrated

6:51

as I have been. So congratulations.

6:54

There you go. Can't beat it.

6:56

We have an opinion piece by

6:58

Doreka Purnell for the

7:00

Guardian. We have another opinion

7:02

piece by Molly Roberts for the washing in

7:05

post. We have multiple tweets

7:07

and interview quotes from Kanye himself.

7:10

We have raising Kanye by doctor

7:12

Don do West. Of course,

7:14

and very briefly. We have the

7:16

Netflix documentary genius. And

7:18

then, of course, several posts and

7:20

interviews made available on Alex

7:22

Jones website, Info Wars,

7:25

baby. Have

7:27

you wait. Have reached

7:30

the era of Kanye West where

7:32

he was tweeting things like eating

7:34

4 s restaurants, like, that

7:37

kind of shit because, like, That's

7:39

always been the era of Kanye West.

7:42

That's fair. But, yeah, it's been like a

7:44

like a century of

7:46

Kanye West. Yeah. Oh my god.

7:48

It feels like he's been around

7:50

forever. He is endless

7:52

and inevitable. All

7:54

villains one day become Kanye West.

7:56

Yes. He is annihilation, a

7:58

movie that I watched for the first time

8:00

over this break, and then has been on TV

8:03

four more times. I also

8:05

watched the annihilation for the crap out over

8:07

this. Hold the hold the fuck. Okay. We

8:09

gotta pause for a couple seconds. How fucking

8:11

great is that movie? It's fucking awesome,

8:13

dude. I so I

8:16

started watching annihilation at,

8:18

like, two AM, m n

8:20

within the first, like, twenty minutes

8:22

was, like, none and none. This

8:25

movie is too good to, like, watch

8:27

Stone at two in the morning. I gotta

8:29

save it. For 4 -- Yes. -- when I'm

8:31

stoned in the morning, like

8:34

regular morning time. So

8:36

I yeah. I turned it off and then watched it

8:38

in the daytime I'm over breakfast with my

8:40

mom and her new boyfriend who

8:43

is by the way, he is he's

8:45

from Fargo and he is the most

8:48

Midwest you could so much.

8:50

Tackle, son general. And I

8:53

by the way, I really like the guy.

8:55

I like him a lot, and he loves

8:58

movies. I mean, this guy really

9:00

loves breaking down like movies and

9:02

TV shows and we got along really

9:04

well. But it's also really funny to

9:06

hear him be like, oh

9:08

yeah. So I don't really know what what's

9:10

going on here, but it feels like it's sort of

9:12

like a representation for like cancer

9:14

and how you sort of

9:16

like it's so funny.

9:18

Oh, okay. So I had a very similar

9:20

experience where I was in the middle of

9:23

finishing or at least working on

9:25

some scripts for ship hit so we could stay

9:27

ahead. Right. And so

9:29

I'm like and the gunnerships

9:32

have over the bow and

9:34

it was on Pluto. So I

9:36

came in, like, part of the way through.

9:39

And so I'm, like, I don't know what the fuck's happening, but like and

9:41

so I'm kinda like half watching it over my

9:43

screen. And then I was just like,

9:45

what the fuck is happening? And

9:47

I was like, And Jake was like, no,

9:49

you should watch this movie. It's amazing. I love

9:51

this movie. And then the more I watched it, the more I

9:53

was like, I need to see this from the beginning. Like, I

9:55

can't just -- Yeah. -- I can't just, like, half

9:57

screen this. So then the

9:59

following day, while I was

10:01

working, like, by regular work

10:03

job, I was, like, waiting

10:05

for a meeting thing and waiting to hear from so

10:07

I and it was on again, and I caught it from

10:09

the beginning. And I was like, oh hell yeah.

10:12

Hell yeah. We're doing this. And

10:14

then I couldn't look away from it. And

10:16

so Jake comes home and I'm like watching the

10:18

end of it while scrolling through articles

10:20

on my phone of

10:21

like, so is it about cancer or

10:24

is it just the inevitability of death And

10:26

he was just like,

10:27

do you, like, think the bear

10:29

was cool? I was like

10:32

Yes. The bear was the bear with

10:34

the human scream. Was very

10:36

cool. God. It's fucking enjoyed

10:38

it quite a bit. Terrified. It's so

10:40

weird, but we both just

10:42

yeah.

10:42

I'm gonna watch annihilation now.

10:45

I felt so behind because I was like,

10:47

man, this amazing movie has been out for

10:49

so long and nobody told me. I

10:51

mean, people had told me, but, like, not like,

10:53

nobody that I like trusted enough to

10:55

be like, You need to fucking watch this right now

10:57

anyway. Yeah.

10:59

I so I've been like

11:02

I've been on a feel like

11:05

sci fi kick lately. It's been

11:07

-- Oh. -- what I've been into

11:09

the most. And so

11:11

what's funny is that

11:13

me, my mom, and her boyfriend, all

11:15

got interested in it for different reasons.

11:17

Because I was like, dude, I love SciFi,

11:19

the visuals look really cool. I really

11:21

wanna watch it. My mom's

11:23

boyfriend was

11:24

like, oh, it's got Alex

11:26

Garland directing. That's real interesting. I

11:28

always

11:28

love it. Think that made me really wanna

11:31

watch 247? I was just like, Alex

11:33

Garland, though. He's done some good work. Yeah.

11:35

He was I shit you not. This is always

11:37

a direct quote. He goes like, I

11:39

really like that there. Ex

11:41

machina. So I thought maybe, you know what, like

11:43

this movie too. He's

11:45

really like that. They're ex

11:47

machina. That they're smocking it

11:49

with that there, Oscar Isaac.

11:51

Yeah. Yeah. And then my mom got

11:53

into it because I was like, it's got Oscar

11:55

Isaac and she was, Oh, shit.

11:57

Oh, shit. Boy, you

11:59

know. Damn. Hell,

12:01

yeah. We were sitting around the

12:03

kitchen table and my mom who who was

12:05

a teacher. Came home and

12:07

had just found out that there's a machine

12:10

learning program that's learning to write school

12:12

essays. And she had, like, pulled

12:14

some up to see if they, like, actually were

12:16

good at it, and they're scarily,

12:18

frighteningly good at it. Mhmm.

12:20

And and she was like, they're making

12:22

inferences. They're making choices. Like, it

12:24

is choosing and connecting

12:26

themes, and it's alarming that a

12:28

machine is learning this. And I was like,

12:30

mom, this is why we need to watch machina,

12:32

like, right now. And she was like,

12:34

no. It's too real. Not only do

12:37

you have to watch ex machina, but then you

12:39

have to go out, go to a movie theater,

12:41

and watch Meghan in theaters. Because

12:43

that movie -- Oh, fuck in

12:45

a box.

12:45

Stewd. I have to wait because

12:47

we're a future

12:49

spoiler. We're doing it on horror version, like, for a

12:51

specific month with some other movies. So we're

12:53

waiting until it's, like, streaming. So everyone could do

12:55

it, but that just means I have to wait

12:57

to see it. It is phenomenal.

13:00

If possible, I would

13:02

say go see it in the theater because it

13:04

was such a fun experience to be with, like, a

13:06

bunch of other people who were, anytime

13:08

something ridiculous happened, we all

13:10

just laughed at the screen.

13:12

Well, It's written by the girl who wrote

13:14

malignant. Yeah. And I fucking love

13:16

malignant. So I was like, oh,

13:18

I'm here for this. Anyway, doctor

13:20

Konya West. Yeah. Yeah. That's go

13:22

watch annihilation if you haven't.

13:24

Go watch that their ex

13:26

machina if you Go watch that their ex

13:28

machina and go fear for that

13:30

their than future as

13:34

SA SkyNet comes to kill us all.

13:36

There's, like, two people in Fargo that

13:38

are like, that's not how we fucking sound you.

13:40

That's not how we talk. That's not where we

13:42

put our that then vowels. Yeah.

13:46

Ex machina though. Fucking great.

13:49

So during the last three

13:51

episodes, we've covered the

13:53

history of Kanye Omari

13:55

West. From his childhood of being

13:57

treated like a gift from god

13:59

to the self imposed victimhood of

14:01

his adult years and finally

14:03

his religious awakening that was a little

14:06

too salty for anyone's comfort.

14:08

But in the next two episodes, we're

14:10

going to cover the reason that he's

14:12

been on the forefront of our minds lately. Because

14:15

over the last few years, the rapper's

14:18

controversies have been less about

14:20

how great Beyonce is and

14:22

more about spreading hateful messages,

14:25

including a ton of anti

14:27

Semitism, alongside some

14:29

of the far right's biggest

14:31

personalities. But how

14:33

did we get here? How did a dude

14:35

that made a song called black skin

14:37

head become Well,

14:39

a black black gem. Yeah.

14:44

The signs were there the whole

14:46

time. Yeah. They

14:48

were Schimmer has reached our

14:51

shores. They were way bigger

14:53

sons than you would have thought. Yeah. 4

14:56

we dive into Kanye's long

14:59

history of anti Semitism, like,

15:01

way longer than you think,

15:04

I think that we should cover

15:06

his history and involvement

15:08

with politics. Kanye

15:12

has never been afraid to speak

15:14

up on social issues that are

15:16

important to him. As we covered in

15:18

episode two, even his debut

15:20

album college dropout, was filled

15:22

with lyrics that touched on police

15:24

brutality, voter discrimination,

15:26

and racism. He

15:28

even wrapped about how his

15:30

grandfather got arrested during the

15:32

nineteen fifty eight Cats drugstore

15:34

sit in. That was, you

15:36

know, the thing that we talked

15:38

about his mom and his grandfather being a part

15:40

of, but it goes further than

15:42

lyrics. In a two thousand and five

15:44

interview with MTV News,

15:46

Kanye took it. Hold on. Bitch,

15:49

got your ass. Got

15:52

your fucking ass. Elliott, leave it in.

15:54

I fucking killed a fly. I fuck AND

15:56

ONE CLAPPED THAT MOTHER

15:58

FUCKER. ONE CLAPPED. ONE

16:01

SHOT. ONE OPPORTUNITY. kill

16:03

every fly you ever wanted. Would

16:05

you let it go or just

16:08

slap it? fucking slap

16:10

the shit out of that motherfucker. In

16:12

a two thousand and five interview with

16:14

MTV News, Kanye took a big

16:16

swing against homophobia in hip

16:18

hop, which especially at the time was

16:20

a huge deal. Just for

16:23

reference, one of the biggest hits

16:25

from that era of hip hop

16:27

was DMX's Where The

16:29

Hood Act. Wait.

16:30

Okay. Can we talk about where they're put up for a

16:32

second?

16:32

Oh, yeah, baby. Do you

16:34

recall a little less than

16:36

a year ago? When

16:40

we were in Kansas City,

16:42

you, myself, Mike,

16:44

and Todd, and DMX

16:46

had just passed away. And we were

16:48

like, let's throw one up for DMX. We

16:50

were on our way driving to the show,

16:52

and we put on where the

16:54

hood act. Yeah. And

16:56

we were like, holy shit and turned

16:59

it off just like moments later. We

17:01

were like, I did not

17:03

remember that much

17:06

horrific anti gay rhetoric

17:08

in this song. No one ever

17:11

fucking does. Look, I'm gonna

17:13

be real with you guys. The songs are fucking

17:15

bop. Alright? It's an anthem, and

17:17

it still gets everyone hyped

17:19

to this day. But it

17:21

also contains lyrics like, quote, last I heard

17:23

y'all was having sex with the same

17:26

sex. I show no love

17:28

to homo thugs. How

17:30

are I'm sorry. How are you gonna explain

17:33

fucking a man? Even if we

17:35

squash the beef, I ain't

17:37

touching your hand. Okay.

17:39

I can explain it. So, I mean, depending

17:41

on the man that you're having sex with some will

17:43

have a penis. And if that is the case,

17:46

then they might want to have penetrative sex. 247 depending

17:48

on your particular set of genitals

17:50

that you

17:50

have, you would have to look for Wait a minute. Wait a minute. a

17:53

minute. Yeah.

17:56

I forgot exactly what

17:59

happened was, like, we turned the song on

18:01

and we were like, oh, fuck yeah,

18:03

dude. And then it got to that point, and we

18:05

all got really quiet and rolled

18:07

up the windows. It just turned

18:10

did we turn the radio off and just kinda

18:12

sat there and silent. Oh, god.

18:15

Where we were, like, oh, we're on the

18:17

air of our ways, immediately.

18:20

Yeah. Those bars, by the

18:22

way, were intended to be a diss to

18:24

another popular rapper, jaw

18:27

rule. Yeah. Yeah.

18:29

DMX was beefing with jaw rule

18:31

and he accused him of being

18:33

gay because that's just kinda

18:36

that's just kinda what you did back in the

18:39

day. I mean, is

18:41

y'all okay? I don't ever remember that

18:43

being a thing about y'all rule, but

18:45

I don't know about a job rule flaming, but he did do a

18:47

lot with

18:48

fireflies. So Make sure that

18:50

No. No. No. It's not that's

18:53

kind of the point is, like, if

18:55

you're doing a diss

18:57

track, you just kinda called

18:59

people gay. I mean, even in the

19:01

legendary diss track ether where

19:03

NOS takes on j z, which by the

19:05

way ether is regarded by most as

19:07

the gold standard for

19:09

tracks. You can hear bars where

19:11

noz calls his opponent.

19:14

And I'm I'm not I'm

19:16

not happy with myself for finding this as funny as

19:18

it

19:18

is, but he calls j z

19:22

gay z.

19:24

Here's the thing. I find it funny because it's so

19:26

late. This is so late.

19:32

That is lazy. He call

19:34

yeah. He calls he calls him

19:36

gay z, and then implies

19:39

that, quote, cockefeller records has

19:42

aids. What

19:45

is this? Rose Battle

19:47

in twenty thirteen.

19:47

Exactly. Oh,

19:52

man. It's That that

19:54

is so fucking stupid. In

19:56

that two 247 thousand and five interview,

19:59

Kanye talks about meeting his gay

20:01

cousin's partner and realizing that the

20:03

words he and his fellow rappers use

20:05

have consequences. And here's

20:07

a quote from the interview quote, everybody

20:09

in hip hop discriminates against

20:11

gay people. You play a record and if

20:13

it's whack, it's that's gay dog.

20:15

And just wanna come on TV and just tell my

20:18

rappers, just tell my friends,

20:20

yo, stop it, fam. So

20:22

-- Okay. -- that's like I mean, again,

20:24

at the time, people at the

20:26

time, people called Kanye Gay because he

20:29

dressed well. So, like, for

20:31

him to really step out and

20:33

be, like, let's stop doing

20:35

this. This is actually hurting

20:36

people, was at the

20:39

time a huge step forward.

20:41

Now, correct me if

20:41

I'm wrong, is this also the time of

20:44

that South Park episode?

20:46

No. That would come later

20:48

saw later. The South Park episode came around

20:50

eight zero eight's in heartbreak. Okay.

20:54

Okay. Where then yeah. And then

20:56

he flips full one eighty. I

20:58

mean, that's the thing about Kanye

21:00

is that, like, he did say

21:04

he'd he did say,

21:06

like, hey, we shouldn't

21:08

hate on gay people, but then he

21:10

also got really mad at

21:12

the insinuation of being

21:14

called gay. There's also again,

21:17

this is after this. In

21:20

the songs stronger, he

21:22

uses the Lyric. Well, I'd do anything for a

21:24

4 dyke. So --

21:27

Yeah. -- like, he's you

21:29

know, he's

21:29

like Because it rhymes with Klondy.

21:31

Yeah. And what would you do for a

21:34

4 bar? Yeah. Yeah. Well -- Yeah. -- he would do

21:36

he would do just about anything. It

21:39

sounds like. And of course,

21:41

also in two thousand and five, there was

21:43

Kanye's infamous appearance at the

21:45

concert for 4 relief

21:47

where the rapper criticized the

21:49

Federal Response to Katrina by

21:52

saying George Bush doesn't care about

21:54

black people. Yeah.

21:54

While standing next to Noted serial

21:57

killer, Nathan Myers. Again,

22:00

I know I said it before, but just

22:02

go watch that. Go watch that clip Yeah.

22:04

Michael West does not know what

22:06

to do. There

22:09

was a I found a clip

22:11

the other day, where they're doing a

22:13

parody of it, where he Kanye is

22:15

standing next to Michael Byers, and they're doing

22:17

an interview at, like, a hockey

22:20

game or something. Mhmm. And somebody

22:22

asked Kanye something, and they point the

22:24

mic at Kanye. And Michael

22:27

Myers gets right in Kanye's face and goes, don't do it.

22:29

Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it.

22:31

Don't very

22:34

good. But the first time

22:36

that Kanye became actively involved

22:38

in politics was in two thousand and

22:40

eight, thanks to a small time politician,

22:43

by the name of Barack

22:45

Obama, which I guess You haven't

22:48

heard of it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

22:50

who has. I

22:53

guess what I'm trying to say here

22:54

is, thanks Obama. First, you raise my

22:57

gas prices, then you make my

22:59

Kanye all political.

23:00

Why? Wow. Wow. Wow.

23:04

Nice. Turing his

23:06

two thousand and eight president campaign,

23:08

Barack Obama sat down with rapper

23:10

Kanye West and gay

23:13

z to talk about education,

23:16

crime, and how hip hop could be

23:18

used as a tool to reach the youth

23:20

in an effective manner. But

23:22

also, it was it was mainly

23:24

a tactic to get votes because this is fucking America

23:26

and a lot of us are idiots who just

23:28

listen to what our favorite celebrities tell

23:30

us to do. The problem

23:32

is Kanye didn't see

23:34

his meeting with Obama as a press opportunity. He

23:38

insisted that that he had

23:40

actually can salted

23:42

on Obama's campaign.

23:44

And as Obama's newest staffer,

23:46

he decided to help the best way

23:48

he knew how performing at the

23:51

Democratic national committee

23:53

party. Oh, man.

23:55

Economy I I can already see where

23:57

this could go bad. Took

23:59

the stage alongside Jamie Fox

24:02

and excitedly told the crowd that

24:04

he wished his mama could have seen

24:07

this day And then in perhaps

24:09

the wildest choice possible,

24:11

he dedicated the Song

24:13

Gold Digger to Obama

24:15

and his campaign. Oh, no.

24:18

Now here's the thing. That song was wildly

24:20

popular at the time. Yeah.

24:22

And that song is interesting

24:24

because I believe it was actually

24:26

originally written for him to give to another artist. Mhmm.

24:28

And then he chose to record it

24:31

himself. So some parts of it are

24:33

sung from the perspective of

24:35

a black woman, which is kind of interesting.

24:38

That said, probably not the best

24:40

to sing for the party that

24:42

is always being accused of spending

24:45

more money than we have. So, like, you know Yeah.

24:47

Yeah. It's a

24:50

real it's a

24:52

choice. After Obama's

24:54

elected, Kanye was one of the

24:56

artists that was picked to play at

24:58

his inauguration in two thousand

25:01

and nine. Along with fellow

25:03

future Trump supporter, Kid

25:05

Rock, which I

25:07

fucking did did well, first of all, I

25:09

did see him becoming a Trump supporter. That's like

25:11

a mile away. Did

25:14

not see him playing

25:16

at Obama's inauguration,

25:18

though. That's fucking wild. Also,

25:21

kid rock, by the way, is such a

25:23

huge Trump supporter, by the way, that

25:25

he now starts all of his

25:27

concerts with a prerecorded message

25:30

from Donald Trump. Oh, I

25:32

hate that. The future the

25:34

former president and future inmate

25:36

gets the crowd hyped by saying,

25:39

quote, Hello, everyone. I love you all. I know

25:41

you're having a great time at this kid

25:43

rock concert tonight. Quite

25:45

frankly, he's amazing. All

25:47

of you are truly the backbone of our great

25:50

country, hardworking, god

25:52

fearing, rock and roll patriots.

25:55

Holy shit. I

25:57

mean, it does make sense though because if

25:59

you rearrange the letters in BAW to BAW to

26:01

BAW to BANG to BANG to BANG to BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB.

26:05

The boogey. It says that JFK

26:07

Junior is going to arrive with helicopters

26:10

to bring about the apocalypse so

26:12

that Donald Trump

26:14

our Lord, it may rain long time. We'll

26:16

come to power. So Yeah.

26:19

You've also Don't Google it. You you

26:21

yeah. I think. That's

26:24

what I was googling. I

26:27

was I was googling this

26:29

song. You know the whole thing about

26:32

how Kid Rock wrote that song for Osmosis Jones.

26:35

Right? Yes. Yes. Yeah.

26:37

That's the the other thing that I was

26:39

gonna say they have in common is that

26:41

Kit Rock wrote such lyrics as,

26:43

quote, young ladies, young

26:45

ladies. I like them under age

26:47

c, Some say it's statutory, but I

26:49

say it's mandatory.

26:53

Oh, people are terrible.

26:57

Also, here's the thing. I have never

26:59

learned a new fact about kid rock

27:01

and been

27:02

like, Well, that improves

27:04

my opinion. Yeah. If

27:07

anything, I learned a fact about Kid

27:09

Rock, and then I go, yeah, that makes

27:11

sense. Like, I learned that Kid

27:13

Rock also was married to Pamela

27:15

Anderson and went, yeah,

27:17

that makes sense. Yeah, that makes

27:19

sense. I will say I

27:21

don't know if you recall, but quite a few

27:23

years ago, on this podcast, we

27:27

suggested using the phrase kid

27:29

rock in place of

27:31

calling things gay as a slur.

27:33

I don't remember this.

27:36

Where we were, like, don't

27:38

use the word gay as

27:40

a slur. Don't use it to mean

27:42

bad things. Mhmm. Unkind. But

27:44

someone who could definitely stand to be

27:46

used as a slur is 247 rock.

27:49

Fuck. So we're like pretty fucking kid rock of

27:51

you. Like, this album kid rock

27:53

is hell. So you know what? Bring that

27:56

back. Oh, yeah. Whatever you say, kid rock

27:59

z. Mom, dad,

28:02

I'm kid rock. No.

28:06

I would actually I would actually

28:08

disown my kid if they came out as kid

28:10

rock. I'm not I thought we raised

28:13

you right. Right? You did

28:15

mom four 4. Oh,

28:20

terrible. Oh my god. Terrible.

28:22

By the way, this recording that

28:24

plays before 4 rock's concert

28:27

also features an entire section.

28:29

About how Kid Rock is one of the greatest

28:32

entertainers of all time, but that he

28:34

is not as good a golfer

28:36

as Donald Trump. You

28:39

know, I would have let him play

28:41

guitar, but I can't trust a

28:43

man who's got a handicap like

28:45

that. I can't trust a man who can't

28:47

guitar par under three. I don't

28:49

know about golf. No. They're pretty well there

28:51

for a bit. Thank you.

28:53

After a few quick tips

28:56

on golf, which was again not a

28:58

bit, Trump ends the recording

29:00

by saying quote, let's make

29:02

America rock

29:04

again. Yeah.

29:08

4, Kanye's goodwill with President

29:11

Obama would run out in two thousand and

29:13

nine when the rapper stormed the

29:15

stage at the VMAs to interrupt

29:17

Taylor Swift's acceptance speech

29:20

in a leaked off the record

29:22

segment of a CNBC interview

29:25

obama referred to the incident and

29:27

called Kanye a

29:29

Jackass. I remember this. Oh,

29:31

yeah. It was it was

29:33

weirdly huge news. Yeah.

29:36

That is when Yay made a

29:38

realization. And the validity of this

29:40

realization is up for debate. I

29:42

think on both sides, but it is

29:44

something that he believes wholeheartedly. He

29:46

realized that the Democratic Party

29:48

will use black people to

29:50

gain votes and then dump them the moment that they are

29:52

no longer

29:53

useful. Here's the thing, not

29:57

wrong. And I say that as someone

29:59

who tends to vote that way, but,

30:01

like, that we

30:03

have a history. Of doing that.

30:06

Yeah. Absolutely. So

30:08

the rest of Kanye's history

30:10

with political parties is complicated to

30:12

say the least. I mean, the man flip

30:14

flops more than a gay fish on land. Oh,

30:17

shit. Oh, shit. Look,

30:19

yeah. Shot South Park dude. Like I

30:21

said, I was stuck in a hotel a

30:23

week so you know that I was watching a lot

30:25

of basic cable, baby.

30:27

I just

30:27

wanna correct you really quick though. It's a

30:30

kid rockfish. Oh, yeah.

30:31

Of course. Of course. Course, how can I be

30:33

so stupid? How can I be so stupid? I did

30:36

actually that episode did come on while I

30:38

was watching cable TV

30:41

And basically, the only things that I

30:43

watched was South Park out

30:45

of order episodes of the office.

30:48

Gravity falls and then a

30:50

bunch of commercials where former

30:52

football players tell me how to solve my low

30:54

testosterone problem. Or by

30:56

NFT's. Or by NFT's.

30:58

Yes. So in that South Park

31:00

episode, one of my favorite things about it

31:02

and having seen it recently, you will recall,

31:05

is if you haven't seen this South

31:07

Park episode, they make a joke

31:09

where it's like, you know, do you like

31:11

fish sticks, then you're a gay fish.

31:13

And it's a play on the idea that when

31:15

you say fish sticks fast, it

31:17

sounds like fish dicks.

31:19

Mhmm. But there's a

31:21

scene where Kanye is trying to figure out

31:23

why it's funny and what he has

31:26

in common. With gay fish

31:28

and he's like, so

31:30

fish live in the ocean and

31:32

I am a genius and all the

31:34

things he has in his column column

31:37

is just like, genius, brilliant

31:40

innovator. And he's like, I don't

31:42

understand how that makes me a gay

31:44

fish. It's to donate. The thing that

31:46

I love about it and did not

31:48

remember is how hard they went against

31:50

Carlos Mincea who So

31:52

hard. They like, Carlos

31:54

Penncia for those of you that don't remember

31:56

was at the time under fire for

31:58

stealing jokes. So they also threw

32:00

him in there And part where

32:02

Kanye's, like, you wrote the joke, and

32:04

this is, like, paraphrasing, but all of these

32:06

words are used in that episode.

32:08

Carlos Bencia goes, No, man. I

32:10

just made up the jokes because I'm not funny,

32:13

dude. Like I stole them, dude. I never make up

32:15

anything, dude. Come on, man.

32:17

Like, I'm I'm fucking like, I'm ugly and

32:19

I'm a shit. No one likes me. And I and

32:21

my dick is broken, dude. I got no

32:23

dick, man. Come on. And it's like

32:25

god damn, dude. I

32:27

know. Well but that was a thing at the time, and his career never

32:30

recovered. No. No. It did not.

32:32

No. What's his name?

32:34

Ned Holdenas? Is his

32:36

actual name and I've I've

32:38

fucked that guy. He made an entire career out

32:40

of being a stereotype about

32:43

Mexicans and then isn't Mexican.

32:46

My point is is that

32:49

Kanye flip flops a lot. So he

32:51

would continue to support Obama

32:53

even donating a thousand dollars to his

32:55

reelection campaign, but then talk

32:57

shit on the former president anytime his

32:59

name came up again. He

33:01

and his family Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen

33:04

despite the fact that he wore a MAGA

33:06

hat and claimed that he

33:08

would have voted for Trump if

33:10

he had ever voted. He

33:13

endorsed a black progressive meural

33:16

candidate for Chicago, but then

33:18

also supported Candice

33:20

Owens and her Brexit

33:22

movement, which urged black Democrats to

33:24

flip sides and become Republicans.

33:28

But it seems like over

33:30

time, Kanye becomes more and

33:32

more of what journalist Molly

33:34

Roberts calls a right

33:36

wing darling. Her piece

33:38

for the Washington Post as well as

33:40

Derek Purnell's opinion piece

33:42

for the Guardian really sums up

33:44

the transition well. Kanye,

33:47

like many newly conservative celebrities,

33:50

has shifted farther right the more

33:52

that he has acquired wealth.

33:54

Because it's important to remember that Kanye

33:56

was worth at one point over

33:58

a billion dollars and

34:01

even after all of the controversies,

34:03

he is still a multimillionaire.

34:06

He is networked 4 something like four

34:08

hundred million. It's really

34:10

not hard to see why he

34:12

has related so hard to

34:14

the myth of Donald Trump. You know, they're

34:17

both people who have used the illusion of

34:19

outlandish wealth and self a grandizement

34:21

to turn their dreams into

34:24

reality. Like, I want you to remember when we were covering adulthood

34:26

and he wouldn't pay his

34:28

rent or his phone bill but

34:31

he would go out and

34:32

buy, like, chains and fancy clothing and --

34:35

Mhmm. -- all of this stuff to sort of

34:37

put on, he would lease cars that

34:39

he couldn't afford. So that he could put

34:41

on this illusion of success and then, you know, do

34:43

that whole fake it till you

34:45

make it thing. In a

34:48

recent interview with Tucker

34:49

Carlson, Kanye affirmed his respect

34:52

for Trump saying, quote,

34:54

his name is

34:56

on buildings. Wealth, oh my god. So is

34:58

McDonald? Like, what I

35:01

mean,

35:01

oh, you could hey,

35:04

get a can of spray paint and anyone can have their name on building. That

35:06

is a point that I've

35:08

never thought about before. It's

35:12

technically speaking torads could be on every building in my

35:14

neighborhood -- They did. -- if I bought enough spray

35:16

paint and could run

35:18

fast enough. So

35:20

wealth and status have

35:23

become Kanye's main focus, and

35:25

the Republican Party runs on

35:27

those two things. 247 isn't

35:30

the only factor. As we just mentioned,

35:32

Kanye became disillusioned with the

35:34

Democratic Party as I think a lot

35:36

of us have in the last few

35:39

years. But instead of joining other progressive

35:42

radicals that criticized the party while holding

35:44

onto their values, people like

35:46

Cornell or

35:48

Colonel West Osmole or Reverend Jeremiah

35:50

Wright, he started to buy

35:52

into the myth of quote

35:54

unquote, free

35:56

thinkers. And to be clear, when I say

35:59

free thinkers, I'm referencing

36:01

the new right wing personalities who

36:03

believe that to criticize size

36:05

the left, you have to be on

36:08

the right. The term refers

36:10

to those who

36:12

say things even when they're not politically correct.

36:15

You know, the people who hold up shitty

36:18

beliefs and then face backlash and

36:20

blame the quote unquote,

36:22

woke thought

36:24

police. Which

36:24

I I just wanna say this now,

36:26

you should be able

36:28

to and practice this criticize

36:32

the groups you're a part of so they can

36:34

be better. No group is perfect.

36:36

And when faced with criticism, they

36:39

should examine whether or not there are

36:41

ways to improve. That doesn't mean you

36:43

abandon the thing that you're a part of. That

36:45

means you work to make it better and criticism

36:48

is a part of that. So

36:50

practice constructive criticism

36:52

in your life, in all areas of

36:54

your life, do it. A hundred percent.

36:56

That's what we were talking about

36:59

when a while

37:02

ago when when Biden was elected, we had an

37:04

episode where we were like, well, I'm

37:06

glad that's over, but also Biden

37:08

sucks and I

37:10

don't support fucking a cop lawyer being vice

37:12

president. And people were like, how are you gonna

37:14

talk about how bad Trump is and then

37:16

criticize a Democrat? And it's

37:18

like, because not

37:20

criticizing the guy was the

37:22

whole thing we were railing

37:24

against when we talked about Trump.

37:26

Right. Yeah.

37:28

There's no perfect person. There's no perfect party.

37:30

There's no perfect anything. We're all constantly

37:32

fighting towards getting better

37:35

than that means like you said calling out things

37:37

when they're wrong. Right. So

37:40

Kanye's alignment with this free

37:42

finger, right wing bullshit

37:44

is I iconic for two reasons. Firstly, because

37:46

their ideas are mostly

37:48

like you need to act and think like me or

37:50

else you're a godless

37:52

heathen, which seems

37:54

more thought policing than

37:56

telling people you can't

37:58

telling papa jobs you can't say the

38:00

end word.

38:02

I mean, and you know where

38:04

that landed him in the poor house while Shaq runs his

38:06

business. So Dude,

38:09

I just wanna so many commercials with Shacking them

38:11

on cable TV, by the way. I there was a

38:14

not a bit. There was one point where

38:17

I saw three Shack commercials back

38:20

to back to back. It was for

38:22

Papa John's, it was for the

38:24

4, and it was for icy

38:26

hot. Three in a row.

38:28

I mean and you

38:30

know what? I hate Papa John's

38:33

Pizza. I think it's disgusting. Off.

38:35

Have I ordered it more than

38:36

once? Because I wanna support Shacks sometimes? Yes. Everyone's

38:39

wanna look at it. I'm like,

38:42

maybe we'll be shitty this time.

38:44

I mean, do it for Shaq. It's

38:46

shitty every time. Every single

38:48

time, Shaq. I love you, buddy. I love

38:50

you though. You, but the pizza is

38:52

not good. Never has been. It wasn't good under the other guy either.

38:54

It's just, like, you're in charge

38:56

now. You have the power to make

38:58

a difference. Check. Yeah.

39:00

Better ingredients, worse pizza,

39:02

Papa John's. Papa John's.

39:04

The second reason it's ironic by

39:06

the way, is because same that now aligns himself

39:08

with have been his biggest critics

39:12

until he started

39:14

being shitty. He appeared

39:16

on Alex Jones' info wars and

39:18

used the site to launch a new

39:20

single despite the fact that Alex

39:23

Jones once called him, quote, a

39:26

microcosm of America's degeneration,

39:28

which is Jeez. Yeah. It's

39:30

not just like, oh, I don't like Kanye West.

39:32

It was like Kanye West

39:35

is part of the reason America is

39:38

failing. Which You gotta say it

39:39

like Alex Jones. So you gotta be

39:41

like, a microcosm of the degeneration of the American people.

39:43

Turn in the fucking frogs game. Listen

39:46

up America. Like, that's what it is. Oh,

39:48

terrible.

39:48

These kid rock frogs. But

39:51

also by tactical bath. You

39:54

you know we need

39:56

it. You see

39:58

tactical bath? Did you I'm

40:00

sorry. Do you not know about tactical back?

40:02

Are they just right wing bath

40:04

bombs? No. They are

40:06

just dude baby wipes is baseline.

40:08

It's tactical bath because it's the bath on

40:10

the go. He brands everything

40:12

as if you're a soldier in

40:14

the epoch eclipse. Well And

40:15

it's just like you're gonna need this when you're running

40:18

from the fucking Democratic

40:20

zombies, infiltrating our cities

40:22

and our

40:22

towns, and coming 4 your daughter. Like,

40:24

that's what it is. First of all, I'm glad that somebody had the balls to

40:27

finally fucking say it. The dirty,

40:29

disgusting, tactical, wiped

40:32

balls. To say fucking

40:35

wrinkly seggy beat

40:37

red balls to say -- Yes.

40:39

-- what he's thinking. Wanted

40:42

fucking idiot. Bill O'Reilly once

40:45

described Kanye as quote,

40:47

a disease. But now

40:49

that same person called

40:52

his, quote unquote, cancellation, an attack

40:55

by American Stalinists.

40:58

But weirdly enough, this is why

41:01

Kanye seems to love these people.

41:04

I I'm, like,

41:06

ninety nine percent sure we touched on the

41:08

backstory behind my beautiful dark twisted

41:10

fantasy before. 4 in case we

41:12

haven't or if you need a reminder, it

41:14

came after the Kanye

41:16

Taylor Swift incident. After

41:18

he stormed the stage at the VMAs,

41:20

Kanye became a social

41:22

outcast. Nobody wanted to work with 247,

41:24

his album sales tanked, and he

41:26

was mostly excluded from

41:28

the Grammy's. And like we

41:30

covered earlier, the president of

41:32

the United States called him a

41:34

jackass. Yep. So,

41:36

you know, he was kind of upset.

41:39

And in order to fix

41:41

that, he decided that he was going

41:43

to make an album

41:46

so good that no one could be mad at

41:48

him. He did

41:49

not succeed because

41:50

that's also not how it works. Well,

41:52

I wish I could say that

41:55

but it did kind of it kind of

41:57

wax paint. It kind of

41:59

I mean, it worked in that people kind of

42:01

forgot about the tailors with thing,

42:03

but that's also more of a time and news cycle

42:05

thing. Yeah. Yeah. The album though is

42:07

a classic. It changed

42:10

the trajectory of hip hop and it was met with

42:12

so much critical acclaim that when the

42:14

Grammy's didn't include it as a nominee

42:17

for album of the year, it was widely called

42:19

a snub by people even outside

42:22

of the hip hop community, despite

42:24

the fact that it did

42:26

win best rap album and several

42:28

other Grammy's. But now,

42:30

Kanye has aligned himself with the people

42:32

who truly believe that they quote unquote tell it like it is. Time

42:34

and time again, we've seen people with

42:36

shitty takes and opinions be, canceled

42:42

only to Air quotes

42:46

canceled only to find immense support

42:48

from a new fan base of

42:50

free thinkers whose

42:52

devotion seems to come with a ton of

42:54

financial backing. I mean

42:56

I can't

42:56

believe Crystalia got canceled, but also still gets

42:59

to work at the improv. And, like,

43:01

everywhere. Yeah. I can't

43:02

believe it's fucking pedophiles. Cancels.

43:05

Gets to work and get it gets a

43:07

Patreon and, like, yeah, it's it's it's all that shit.

43:10

I mean, For fucking proof, just look at the man himself j

43:12

Trump. He has made over

43:14

forty five million dollars selling

43:18

mega hats. He makes over eighty

43:20

thousand dollars a day

43:22

selling Trump merch and roughly

43:25

four point five million dollars were

43:27

made off of his digital trading

43:29

cards, which as an aside, is clearly

43:31

a way for him to set multiple

43:34

transactions under the ten thousand dollar

43:36

limit that requires him to report them to

43:38

the IRS that can come from anywhere

43:40

because they are not supposed

43:42

to be tracking where those finances come from. So

43:44

it's kinda weird. And they're not

43:46

technically campaign funding because he got

43:48

in trouble

43:50

after he lost for raising money

43:52

allegedly, not for campaign

43:55

funding, but using it that way.

43:57

Like multiple times he has

44:00

Yeah. It's fucking it's it's bullshit. But that's

44:02

the point is that it's not

44:04

hard to see why Kanye has found

44:07

the far right so appealing. And as long as he continues

44:09

to spout their free thinker

44:12

bullshit, they will also continue to prop

44:14

him up. I

44:16

mean, like, we

44:18

already talked about other

44:20

people, but you can see it over and over. What was the

44:22

what was the the lady's

44:24

name from

44:26

the Mandalorian. She was Gina Perano. Gina

44:28

Perano. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Had

44:31

real shitty opinions and

44:33

then got taken off

44:36

the show. And then now has like a fierce support people

44:38

who didn't know who she was,

44:40

don't like the stuff that

44:42

she was in 4. But

44:45

are willing to support her endlessly because,

44:47

you know, that's what we do. You have

44:49

the same opinions of me.

44:51

So, obviously, I

44:54

have to support you. But

44:56

if we're gonna talk about Kanye's political

44:58

history, we have to

45:01

talk about the time that

45:04

he ran for precedent. Let's do it. Let's do

45:08

it. Now for most

45:10

politicians, it difficult to

45:12

pinpoint the exact moment they decided

45:14

to run for president. For

45:16

some, it's been a lifelong dream

45:18

to improve the country and to

45:20

take the biggest office that we have

45:22

available as a nation.

45:24

For others, it was when they realized

45:26

that it would be a good promotion for

45:28

their real estate business. You know, it differs.

45:30

It's It differs. It differs. It

45:32

differs. But in the case of

45:35

Kanye West, we know exactly when

45:37

he made the decision. In

45:39

twenty fifteen, the VMAs offered him

45:42

the Michael Jackson video

45:44

vanguard award. It's also known

45:46

as the Lifetime Achievement Award. It is

45:48

a merit given to artists and

45:50

directors who have made an outstanding

45:52

contribution or a profound

45:54

impact on music videos

45:56

and pop culture. So they

45:58

offer him this award. While

46:00

he was taking a shower

46:02

at his mother-in-law, Chris

46:04

Jenner's house, he thought about

46:06

how funny it would be if he

46:08

announced a presidential campaign

46:10

during his acceptance speech. Which

46:13

is fucking outlandish and crazy

46:16

and wild, but it is

46:18

also exactly what

46:20

he did. Yep. After being introduced by

46:22

none other than Taylor fucking

46:24

Swift. Wild. That was the crazy

46:26

shit ever. It's fucking

46:28

dumb, dude. Ganye

46:30

gave an eleven minute

46:32

acceptance speech that felt like a

46:34

mix between a rant and

46:36

a sermon. And in

46:38

that speech, he defended

46:40

his decision to interrupt

46:42

Taylor Swift back in two

46:44

thousand and five. He did it again

46:46

by claiming that Justin Timberlake stole a Grammy from Solo.

46:48

He's shit on MTV

46:51

and the VMAs. And

46:54

then he ended it with, quote, it ain't about me.

46:57

It's about ideas, bro.

46:59

New ideas. People

47:02

with ideas. People who

47:04

believe in the truth. And

47:06

yes, you probably could have guessed by this

47:08

moment, I have decided in

47:10

twenty twenty to run

47:12

for

47:12

president. Fucking mic drop, walk off stage,

47:14

begin the plan. So

47:18

crazy. It's

47:20

so wild. Oh my

47:22

god, dude. It's awesome. It's so

47:24

great. It's so great that we

47:26

live in a day and age where you can

47:28

do that. I mean,

47:30

that's that's how you basically announced running

47:32

for mayor -- Yeah. -- mayor. Yeah.

47:34

Because I got a

47:36

parking ticket. God.

47:40

It's so dumb, but okay. Here's

47:42

where things get a little tricky.

47:44

Technically speaking, Kanye announced

47:48

his intent to run for president in twenty

47:50

fifteen. However, his official

47:52

campaign wasn't announced until

47:54

the fourth of July on twenty

47:58

twenty. Now why is that an issue? Because

48:00

at that point, he was

48:02

passed the filing deadline to

48:04

run for a majority party in all

48:06

fifty states

48:08

he was passed most primary elections and

48:10

he was passed at least four

48:12

deadlines to run as an independent

48:15

candidate. Yeah. I was gonna say

48:18

he was past the right end date even. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.

48:20

Yep. But despite all of that,

48:24

Kanye insisted that he was serious

48:26

about running. He announced

48:28

his two campaign advisers,

48:30

Kim Kardashian and Tesla

48:33

CEO, Elon Musk. Good night.

48:36

Now here's the crazy thing.

48:38

Given more time and having

48:40

met deadlines, Kim Kardashian's

48:42

not a bad choice. No. Because she

48:44

is a secret smart lady. Yeah. She's

48:47

great. The worst part about all

48:49

of this is, like, you wonder

48:51

why and and I didn't

48:53

touch on it as much as I should have in this. But, like,

48:55

when he backed Candice Owens,

48:57

Kim Kardashian is the

49:00

one that explained what she was actually trying to do. And as soon

49:02

as he understood it, Kanye was like,

49:04

oh fuck her. Actually, we have

49:06

beef now. When

49:08

he when supported Trump, Kim Kardashian was the

49:10

one that was like, guys, he likes

49:13

his personality. He doesn't understand

49:16

the politics. Right. Right.

49:18

Right. Like, if you're wondering

49:20

why Kim Kardashian left

49:22

Kanye West, it's because she has been

49:24

doing damage control since the

49:26

day they got like,

49:28

I was gonna say married, but honestly,

49:30

before 4, you When they started

49:32

dating, basically. Yeah. Yeah. She

49:34

is if anything, I have so much

49:37

respect for Kim Kardashian 4 she is, like you said,

49:39

secret smart lady. She's the brains behind

49:41

all of this shit.

49:43

Like like not all of this bad shit. All of the good

49:46

shit. All of the cover

49:47

ups for a lot of the bad shit. Yeah.

49:49

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a better way

49:51

to put it. Yes. Kanye claimed by the way

49:54

that if he was elected that

49:56

Elon Musk would become the head of our

49:58

space

49:59

program. Which is a bad idea. That's how

50:02

you get the aliens franchise.

50:04

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

50:06

also how you get several Teslas stuck

50:08

in orbit.

50:10

Yeah. There's already one up there. Oh, yeah. In

50:12

an interview on July seventh

50:15

twenty twenty, Kanye

50:18

revealed that he was running

50:20

under a new political party that he called the birthday

50:22

party. I remember this,

50:26

fuck. Yes. Because,

50:28

quote, when we win,

50:30

it's everybody's birthday.

50:33

It's so dumb,

50:36

Paige. It's so dumb.

50:37

Oh, god. What fresh

50:40

hell do we live in?

50:42

In that same interview, he announced his

50:44

running mate Michelle Tidball who

50:47

is a relatively unknown Christian

50:49

preacher from Wyoming with

50:54

seemingly zero political experience or

50:56

knowledge or education or

51:00

anything. I have

51:02

a sneaking suspicion that she didn't really know what

51:05

was happening, but I you

51:07

know, there's not enough information to to

51:09

to say for 4.

51:12

When questioned about his choice, he insisted

51:14

that it made sense because he was,

51:16

quote, running for president

51:18

as a service

51:20

to god. Oh, jeez.

51:22

In an effort to collect

51:24

the required number of signatures he

51:26

needed to make it onto the ballot, Kanye

51:28

started hosting his own campaign rallies, the most

51:30

famous being his first event, which

51:32

was held in North Charleston, South

51:36

Carolina on July nineteenth twenty twenty, he took the stage

51:38

wearing a bulletproof vest and

51:40

ranted about a number of topics

51:44

including his opposition to gun control, a

51:46

wild take from a man wearing a bulletproof

51:48

vest. I'm just gonna say it seems

51:50

like if you're afraid of getting shot,

51:53

maybe be careful about who has

51:56

guns, whatever. He talked

51:58

about his support for the

52:00

LGBT

52:00

community, which is established true

52:04

ish. Right. He also

52:07

he also talked about

52:09

how we need to quote find

52:11

a way to fix drug addiction

52:13

caused by accessible healthcare,

52:16

end quote, which I don't

52:19

I I get maybe he's trying

52:21

to

52:21

say, like, doctors will prescribe medicines

52:24

and get people addicted to them and opioid

52:26

crisis. Yeah. Like, I can but

52:29

to to say that it's caused by

52:31

accessible healthcare seems like a

52:33

real weird choice. I almost wonder

52:35

if that's like fuck up.

52:38

Like, he didn't like,

52:40

he said in wrong, I guess. I don't know.

52:42

Yeah. Yeah. To fair enough. But

52:44

if any of that wasn't wild enough for

52:46

you. He also broke down into tears while railing

52:49

against abortion and

52:52

claiming that he and his

52:54

then wife, Kim Kardashian,

52:56

had almost aborted their eldest

52:58

child northwest. Again, a

53:00

thing that this child is going

53:02

to one day or learn about.

53:05

Yeah. Fucking Jesus

53:07

Christ. Then there's a part where

53:09

he shit on Harriet Tubman because

53:11

she, quote, didn't free the slaves. He then insisted that

53:13

she just forced them to work

53:15

for different white

53:18

people which is a hot

53:20

take from the same man who

53:22

once claimed that slavery was

53:24

a choice. Yeah. I fucking

53:28

I'm getting remade, reading all this stuff again, by the

53:30

way. Oh my god. Other

53:33

choice opinions from

53:36

his platform include his

53:38

thou shalt not kill policy

53:41

on abortion. However,

53:43

he conceded that, quote, the

53:45

law is not by by god so that he

53:47

might not be able to outlaw

53:49

abortion fully, but he

53:52

wanted to he wanted to set

53:54

up a program where

53:56

where the government would pay one

53:58

and this is a quote, one million

54:01

dollars or something in that

54:03

range to women who chose

54:05

not to abort their

54:07

children. End quote, he he offered no details on

54:09

where that money would come from at all. And

54:12

it also reads, like, a

54:14

a fucking the

54:16

mom from arrested development,

54:18

where it's like, how much could milk really

54:20

cost these things? How much is a banana?

54:22

Ten dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

54:25

Yeah. It's like one million dollars or something in

54:27

that range, you know, a little bit of

54:29

money to start a family.

54:31

Oh my god. He

54:35

did participate in the George

54:37

Floyd protests and also paid

54:39

off George Floyd's daughter's

54:42

tuition. But then he

54:44

also claims to be against

54:46

the Black Lives Matter movement

54:49

and stated that, quote, the

54:51

police are people too, which

54:54

is, again,

54:56

just a wild choice to do it in I guess.

55:00

Kanye also claimed

55:04

that welfare you know, you

55:06

you always know something's good when it starts with

55:08

this. Whatever people start in with

55:10

welfare. Alright. Give 247 to

55:12

me. Kane also claimed that welfare was a tool used

55:14

by, quote, the Democratic plantation

55:18

to, quote, take

55:20

fathers out of their home

55:22

and keep black families

55:24

dependent on the party.

55:26

And he also

55:28

claimed that homicide was a byproduct of

55:30

welfare. What?

55:32

Oh, yeah. Which part of that is confusing

55:34

you? Is it

55:35

All of it. All

55:37

of it for first the, like, taking

55:39

father's away, I'm like, what what part of

55:42

welfare takes father's away?

55:44

Then, like, makes him dependent on the state, I

55:46

was like, No.

55:48

The goal is that, like, it gets you to

55:50

a place where you can eventually be more self

55:52

sufficient. Great. You know? Awesome. Yeah.

55:55

Yeah. I look, I'm

55:57

not gonna sit here and be like,

55:59

oh, he wasn't ever on welfare because I

56:01

honestly, and truly, I don't know.

56:03

But if somebody was on welfare, I can tell you

56:06

straight up, Doug. It's not as easy as

56:08

applying once and then just staying

56:10

on it forever. Forever.

56:12

You have to constantly justify it.

56:14

Yeah. Exactly. It's and if

56:16

you don't if you're not if you're

56:19

probably not trying to get to a better

56:21

situation, it actively becomes harder to

56:23

get it. It's

56:25

not Yeah. It's such a it's such

56:27

a it's such a fucking wild take.

56:29

Like I like I said, whenever somebody

56:31

starts off with, like, welfare and in that tone,

56:33

you're like, oh, this is gonna be fucking good. Tell

56:36

me tell me how you've never been

56:38

on welfare, my god.

56:40

Yes. Jesus

56:42

Christ. Look, after all was said and done. Kanye's

56:44

campaign was as big of a dumpster fire

56:46

as you would have thought. He only

56:48

appeared on twelve

56:50

states ballots he received

56:52

less than zero point

56:54

five percent of the votes in

56:56

each of them, and he was

56:58

obviously not elected

57:00

president. Right. Although

57:02

he was successful in creating a bunch

57:04

of problems for himself, you

57:06

see he raised over fourteen

57:10

million dollars for his

57:12

campaign, but twelve point

57:14

five million of that came from

57:16

his own

57:18

bank accounts. Oh, no. Yeah. And thirteen

57:20

million of that budget was

57:22

spent in the process of

57:24

trying to get

57:26

him elected. Just AII

57:29

can't imagine having twelve

57:31

point five million to piss

57:33

away on a dumb fucking bit.

57:35

That you came up with in the

57:37

shower at Chris Jenner's house

57:40

for the fucking VMAs,

57:42

my guy. Yeah. The

57:43

the that other two million and

57:45

possibly more seems to have

57:47

come from a secret network

57:49

of Republican party

57:52

members Kanye refused to report these transactions

57:54

and is currently under investigation

57:56

for violating federal law

57:58

in an attempt to hide Republican

58:02

affiliation. And if you're wondering why the Republicans would

58:04

back a candidate running against Donald

58:07

Trump, it's because certain conservatives

58:09

believe that Kanye would pull votes

58:12

away from Democratic candidate

58:14

Joseph Biden. And when

58:16

asked whether or not that was his

58:18

plan. Kanye stated and

58:20

I quote, I'm not

58:22

denying it.

58:23

Oh, jeez. I don't think it I

58:26

don't think he planned it. I

58:28

think other people planned around him.

58:30

Yeah. I think it's really clear that

58:32

the support that he got both from

58:34

Trump and other people. They like,

58:36

they knew that he wasn't a

58:38

serious threat to Donald Trump, although -- Yeah. --

58:40

he could have been because, like,

58:42

there is evidence that suggests he may have actually taken

58:45

some votes away from

58:47

Donald Trump because

58:50

I I know a lot of fans of Kanye, and

58:52

I think very few of them were

58:54

actually going to vote for

58:58

him because it's

59:00

stupid. It's so clearly a stupid choice.

59:04

Although, to be fair, Kanye,

59:06

a huge fan of Kanye also

59:08

voted for

59:09

4, and that was the first time that he

59:11

had apparently ever voted before

59:14

in his

59:16

last so good. Wild. Just

59:18

a wild choice. So

59:21

the legal issues don't stop

59:23

there either. Remember how I mentioned that Kanye had

59:25

to get a certain number of signatures

59:28

in order to get onto

59:30

the ballot? While the FEC is

59:32

investigating Kanye and his

59:34

campaign for fraud. Apparently,

59:36

his petitions included such

59:38

names as As

59:40

Bernie Sanders and Mickey

59:42

Mouse -- Mhmm. -- just

59:46

Shit. Yeah. Several other signatures

59:48

were paired with nonexistent addresses or are

59:51

fully fictitious citizens. In

59:54

New Jersey alone, over thirty signatures were

59:56

found to be fraudulent because

59:58

they were clearly signed with

1:00:01

the same handwriting. Oh my

1:00:04

god. It seems hard to prove that.

1:00:06

Right? Well, not if thirty people in

1:00:08

a row use little

1:00:10

circles to not their eye. No.

1:00:14

But fear 247, according

1:00:16

to Yay, he will return

1:00:19

in twenty twenty four. For yet

1:00:21

another presidential campaign. And in the meantime, we

1:00:23

will be back next week with the

1:00:25

final and possibly

1:00:28

the most frustrating episode of our

1:00:30

series on Kanye West.

1:00:32

That's right, baby.

1:00:34

We're doing full

1:00:36

episode on him in his stupid antisemitic

1:00:38

bullshit. Yeah. It didn't seem

1:00:40

right to just squeeze that into another episode

1:00:42

when it's taken front and center.

1:00:46

Recently. Yeah. And especially with

1:00:48

how far back it goes, and

1:00:50

I didn't realize that. I

1:00:52

messaged you page about

1:00:54

how, like, learning how

1:00:56

long he's thought this way

1:00:58

has made most, if not

1:01:00

all of his music, unlistenable to

1:01:02

me. Like, I just can't I can't I

1:01:05

can't do it because I know that while he was making his

1:01:07

old music, he was a

1:01:09

fucking Hitler praising pizza

1:01:12

shit. Right.

1:01:14

So But guess what?

1:01:16

We're done with this episode.

1:01:18

You made it. We're here.

1:01:21

And you can support us running

1:01:23

for president. That's right. We're running on the

1:01:25

same ballot as one candidate. We will

1:01:27

be legally sowing our cells together

1:01:29

-- Mhmm. -- so that we are one

1:01:31

entity -- At the foot. -- at the Like

1:01:34

a very legged race.

1:01:35

We decided to do it the worst way

1:01:37

past of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We

1:01:37

didn't really factor in the height

1:01:40

difference. No. That's

1:01:40

like when I

1:01:41

I roast battle the guy, while we

1:01:43

were on break, who was

1:01:45

six foot seven, Oh my god.

1:01:47

And when you watch the video, I look like a child next

1:01:49

to him. Like, I'm the child he's

1:01:52

babysitting for

1:01:54

the day. Well,

1:01:57

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me, On social media, you can. It's very easy.

1:02:14

I'm at Mondo does stuff on everything

1:02:16

that's Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,

1:02:20

Fucking twitch even that's MAND0

1:02:23

does stuff, all one word.

1:02:26

Yeah. Come hang out. Come come

1:02:28

find me. This

1:02:31

month, I'm gonna be in San Francisco for SF Sketch

1:02:33

Fest on the twenty sixth, twenty

1:02:35

seventh, twenty eighth, and

1:02:38

twenty ninth. So show

1:02:40

dates are coming for that.

1:02:42

I assume this week. But basically,

1:02:44

this week, check my Instagram and and I'll

1:02:47

have information on in tickets and everything like that. It's gonna be a

1:02:49

fun time. Come see me. If you can, it's gonna be a

1:02:51

blast. I love you so much. Good night,

1:02:53

goodbye, and good luck. Hang,

1:02:56

it's a girl page. If

1:02:58

you also love the movie annihilation

1:03:00

--

1:03:00

Mhmm. -- we

1:03:01

probably have stuff in common 247 you should

1:03:04

probably follow me on 247 media at page

1:03:06

wesley on Twitter or at

1:03:08

RAMpage Wesley on Instagram and

1:03:10

TikTok. I do have a ton of

1:03:12

shows coming up in the next couple months. I will be

1:03:14

posting them on Instagram. Most of them are going

1:03:16

to be in the Los Angeles,

1:03:18

Las Vegas area.

1:03:22

But in this summer,

1:03:24

I have a couple different places

1:03:26

that I will be going. So

1:03:28

keep your ears peeled. Keep an

1:03:30

eye on Instagram. That's the best place to

1:03:32

look And if you don't hear enough of my voice, you

1:03:34

can listen to it on horror version and

1:03:37

romance in the pod. And

1:03:40

if you don't like my voice, but like the things in my brain, you

1:03:42

could listen to shippits and the fan. It's up

1:03:45

to you. And I

1:03:48

love you so much. Love you and you meet it by

1:03:50

you. But

1:03:52

if you don't like my voice, but you like

1:03:54

what's in my

1:03:56

brain, Yeah. That's yeah. No. That's If you're like, I like

1:03:58

these thoughts. I just wish they sounded different.

1:04:03

That's that's

1:04:06

very funny. Hey, if you

1:04:08

follow the show on

1:04:10

Instagram, you at co podcast.

1:04:13

Or at co podcast show on

1:04:15

Twitter. You can also send us an

1:04:17

email to co podcast show at

1:04:19

gmail dot com. Or

1:04:22

if you also think that

1:04:24

Andrew Garfield and Sebastian Stan were

1:04:26

robbed this

1:04:28

award season, We can

1:04:30

commiserate together and make vision boards about it,

1:04:32

and you could send those to 3756

1:04:34

West Avenue 4, suite k,

1:04:36

number two thirty seven, light Blackish

1:04:38

shining Los Angeles, California

1:04:40

90065.

1:04:43

And I think 4 this,

1:04:45

I'm gonna say don't drink tactical bath. That's

1:04:47

not what that's for.

1:04:50

Yeah. Yeah. Wipe yourself a

1:04:52

tactical bath, squeeze it into a cup, and

1:04:54

then

1:04:55

take it like shot if you're a

1:04:57

fucking man. If you're a fucking american, you wanna

1:05:00

drink your under

1:05:02

gunned juices. If you're

1:05:04

a rock and roll patriot

1:05:05

like kid rock, then you're

1:05:08

gonna drink

1:05:08

what comes out of the Yeah. I can't

1:05:10

collect the sweat that comes

1:05:13

off his waivey locks. Oh. Just

1:05:16

stringy stringy rat

1:05:18

tail hair. Look, I can't

1:05:19

prove this, but I'm freely sure that

1:05:22

kid rock hasn't taken a shower since two

1:05:24

thousand and three. I

1:05:25

mean, I'm not a hundred percent, but somebody should be

1:05:28

asking these questions.

1:05:30

That's right. We're free thinkers, baby. Yeah.

1:05:34

Don't drink the kool Aid.