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2:01

What do you got drinking there? What you drinking there? Oh,

2:04

what am I drinking? Wow? Okay, there

2:07

we go. I put my warm

2:09

yerba into a glass. Oh

2:12

Straw okay, not a paper straw. This is

2:14

a reveal plastic straw and it will stay

2:17

firm the whole time. Okay, it's good It's

2:19

a good day not to be in California.

2:21

That's always a good thing Sandeep

2:24

welcome back man. Thank you Yeah,

2:27

so just a real quickly that real cliff

2:29

notes We have some other content people

2:31

can check out that tells your whole testimony. You

2:34

are a former Hindu you

2:36

grew up in India You're part of the highest caste

2:38

system. What was the caste system your part of my

2:40

domain? North

2:43

from the northeast part My

2:46

ancestors they belong from you beautiful

2:48

this month Yeah, and

2:50

very much so that you came out of Hinduism you

2:52

came to Christ out of Hinduism You

2:54

have a very unique perspective you live over in in

2:57

Jersey last couple years and in the New Jersey area

3:00

You grew up in India So I think in

3:02

many ways you have probably a very unique perspective

3:04

as someone who's been on the other side Being

3:06

a true believer in everything when it comes

3:09

to reincarnation the different beliefs within Hinduism the

3:11

Hindu scriptures You have quite a few in

3:13

front of you. We are going

3:15

to be Analyzing just

3:17

some clips. There's this current

3:19

president running for president United's

3:22

current candidate Running as a

3:24

Republican for president of the United States and

3:26

while we do don't get into politics that

3:28

much on our platform It's kind of a

3:30

unique conversation because he is running for president

3:32

and what's his name again? How do you

3:34

press them? Vivek Rama Swamy? Vivek

3:36

Rama Swamy. Okay. I remember just it was interesting

3:39

because I watched one of the recent Primary

3:41

public and primary debates and he kind of stuck out to

3:43

me. He seemed very acute

3:45

articulate very intelligent very

3:48

well-spoken and What

3:51

we're gonna do is that I think that you know,

3:53

you have a very unique perspective of all of this

3:56

Our good friend Ally Beth Stuckey. She had him

3:59

on record Recently, it was really kind

4:01

of talking about are his values. He's trying

4:03

to appeal to kind of the modern American

4:06

ideal of God family all that all

4:08

that good stuff And I think

4:10

Ali asked some good questions and I was very intrigued

4:12

by his response and I thought since we're in here

4:14

Report according a bunch of content. We'll do a quick

4:16

popcorn episode of sorts Just kind of getting your thoughts

4:19

on some of his views and some of his beliefs So

4:21

I only bet I only best like is a good friend

4:23

of ours. We've been on relatable a couple times So this

4:25

is a recent episode of relatable. We're

4:27

gonna give some brief commentary on Andrew

4:30

go ahead and let's play the clip. Let's

4:32

go About your worldview you

4:34

mentioned a lot of things obviously that we care

4:36

a lot about and talk a lot about on

4:38

this show This is a Christian

4:40

show obviously in the Republican Party conservative

4:43

movement You've got a lot of

4:45

Christians and there is you know Christianity

4:47

in the fabric of our nation that

4:51

really Founded the ideals upon

4:53

which were established You are not a

4:55

Christian and yet you share a lot

4:57

of the same principles that we do

4:59

Like where does that come from when

5:01

you go back to? Why do

5:03

I believe what I believe about what this country

5:05

is supposed to look like where rights come

5:07

from? Where right and

5:09

wrong? Comes from where

5:11

do you get that? Where

5:14

equality comes from for that matter didn't start

5:16

in some piece of paper Starts

5:18

because we're equal in the eyes of God. We're equally

5:20

the eyes of each other because of that So

5:23

it's interesting. I did go to Catholic high

5:25

school. I that was my first Exposure

5:28

and what ended up being a deep study of

5:30

the Bible, but it actually started

5:32

much earlier than that That's the that's the

5:34

probably technical answer The real

5:37

answer is the family I was raised

5:39

in raised me in a tradition that

5:41

it so happens Shares

5:44

those same values including overlapping with

5:46

the same Christian values that this

5:48

nation is founded on duty

5:51

sacrifice truth Being

5:54

grounded in the love of the family a belief

5:56

that we are equal the way my

5:58

parents taught me growing up in our tradition was we're

6:00

all equal because God resides in each

6:03

of us. I think in the

6:05

Judeo-Christian founding of this nation, we say the same

6:07

thing. We're equal in the eyes of each other

6:09

because we're equal in the eyes of God, that

6:11

we have duties, that God put us here for

6:14

a purpose, for a reason, and

6:16

we are here to realize that purpose, that

6:18

there is a single truth. And

6:21

so for me, when I even, I would

6:23

say in Catholic school, read the Bible for the first time, it

6:25

didn't feel like I was reading it for the first time. And

6:28

I'm not running to be a pastor. I would not

6:30

be qualified to be a pastor of a church. But

6:33

in terms of leading this country as

6:35

commander in chief, as the next president,

6:37

I do share those values so deeply

6:40

that I'm also in a position as a

6:42

young person, as a millennial, as a first

6:45

generation American. And yes, as somebody

6:47

who's Hindu, not Christian, to

6:49

stand staunchly for religious liberty

6:51

in this country, to stand

6:53

staunchly and unapologetically for

6:55

the values that this country was founded on.

6:59

And the truth is, nobody's going to accuse me of being

7:01

a Christian nationalist or white nationalist as I do it. In

7:04

many ways, I am at liberty as a member

7:06

of a generation of first millennial ever to run

7:08

for president as a Republican, to

7:11

do things with greater latitude and conviction than

7:13

maybe even other politicians who are afraid of

7:15

the political consequences may not be able to

7:17

take on. All right. There's

7:19

the clip right there. And Sandeep, I saw your

7:22

head shaking at a few points

7:24

that he was making. I'm sure this

7:26

is important to understand. I want people

7:28

to understand this. So he was using

7:30

certain words and phrases that Christians would

7:33

resonate with, especially living United States

7:35

of America, duty, purpose, equality, equal.

7:39

But just like with the

7:41

LDS individual, you can use the same

7:43

words but have very different definitions. And

7:46

that's where things can get extremely confusing. So

7:48

Sandeep, what did you think about what he

7:50

was saying there? Where was he kind of

7:52

blurring the lines? And

7:55

what was he really saying? So,

8:01

let's study on this guy, who is

8:03

this guy? Vivek Ramaswami,

8:05

the Ramaswami last name again

8:08

shows that he belongs from the

8:10

higher caste, the Brahmins and

8:13

Vivek has many times he

8:16

has said publicly that he is

8:18

a proud Hindu. He is a

8:21

vegetarian too, I

8:23

have read that so it shows that he

8:26

really follows

8:28

what Hinduism teaches, the modern

8:30

Hinduism teaches basically he

8:32

goes to temple for sure

8:35

but again what Vivek is

8:37

claiming that we are all

8:40

made in the equal image of God

8:43

you know and he says he went to

8:45

the Catholic school that doesn't change anything

8:47

I mean it doesn't

8:49

make you a Christian if you're going to a

8:51

Catholic school but when

8:53

Vivek says that everyone

8:57

is made in the equal image of

8:59

God and he grew up with that

9:01

ideology from his parents but

9:04

here is the question when

9:06

Vivek goes to the temple when

9:09

Vivek says he is

9:11

a proud Hindu does Vivek know

9:13

any scriptures that's the question is

9:15

Vivek saying that what Hinduism actually

9:18

says does the Rig Veda like

9:20

I told before mandala 10 which

9:24

says that from Vishnu's mouth came

9:26

the Brahmins the higher caste and from

9:28

his feet came the Shudras the lowermost

9:31

caste and the

9:33

mouth is always seen as the in Hinduism

9:35

the most purest of all one

9:38

of the scripture which backs up

9:40

that is Manusmriti which

9:42

is also a Hindu scripture it says

9:45

the mouth is the most purest of

9:47

all body

9:49

parts so will does

9:51

Vivek's Hinduisms will see

9:53

a Shudra in

9:56

the equal position to learn what

9:59

Hinduism is the best place to learn it

10:02

from is India. If

10:05

anyone takes a trip to India, you would see

10:07

not a Brahmin cleaning

10:10

the sewage, the drains

10:14

or the sewage, all the dirty jobs. You

10:16

don't see a Brahmin, you see a Shudra

10:18

doing it. You see dead bodies are being

10:20

burned by the Shudras doing

10:22

it. The

10:25

Brahmin doesn't do it. And

10:27

Vivek is very clever. I

10:32

have watched many of his videos

10:34

even in the presidential debate,

10:37

the Republican presidential debate, he quotes God

10:40

a lot. Every time he

10:42

says God, let us

10:44

put our trust in God back. But

10:47

which God are you talking about? In

10:51

Kurmapuram, over there

10:53

it says that literally there are

10:55

33 million number of Gods in the Sanskrit

11:01

term, it is called Koti, 33

11:03

karoor, Koti. So Koti

11:05

means millions. So Vivek, are

11:08

you talking about 33 million

11:11

number of Gods or you are talking about one God

11:14

that is Jesus? Or

11:17

are you talking about Krishna or Vishnu? And

11:22

also one more thing is Vivek

11:26

can make up stuffs. I

11:31

believe in the Judeo-Krishna worldview also.

11:34

But the Judeo-Krishna worldview gives you

11:36

freedom like I was telling before.

11:38

When I came to the west

11:40

first, I saw Hindus having equal

11:44

freedom like what Christians have

11:46

but the same thing. Do

11:49

we see the same picture in India? Like

11:51

I said there are anti-conversion laws. Anyone researched

11:55

this? On Google you will

11:57

see there are anti-conversion laws in India like

11:59

in these

12:03

are the states where it has anti-conversion law.

12:05

Do we have it in the United States?

12:08

We don't have it. That's

12:10

called freedom. So Vivek, if

12:13

Vivek becomes president, my first

12:15

question is will Vivek take

12:17

the oath on the

12:20

Bible which almost all

12:22

presidents have taken oath keeping

12:24

their hand on the Bible

12:26

opening the book of the

12:29

Deuteronomy. So Vivek

12:31

will take oath on the Bhagavad Gita

12:34

which is seen as the national book

12:36

in India. Everyone who becomes official

12:39

like official member in

12:41

India, Narendra Modi is the Prime

12:43

Minister in India. He took oath

12:45

by keeping his hand on the

12:48

Bhagavad Gita. So will Vivek do that

12:51

or will Vivek take his hand

12:53

on the Bible or will Vivek

12:55

bring the Bhagavad Gita and also

12:57

the Bible. And Christians will

13:00

think okay, at least he has the Bible.

13:02

But here is the thing, there is a

13:04

huge difference in the world view. There

13:07

is caste system and

13:09

Vivek is a vegetarian so it seems

13:12

like he is a good Hindu. A

13:14

lot of Hare Kṛṣṇas would

13:16

like that because Hare Kṛṣṇas are all

13:18

vegetarian. Remember when we were

13:20

talking with that person we

13:22

met in the Kṛṣṇa temple, he said he is a

13:24

vegetarian. Meat is like something you

13:27

just can't have. But again like in

13:29

Manu Smriti it is like you have to have meat, you

13:31

don't have meat, you are cursed. And

13:33

he is kind enough to give

13:35

us two bananas. Yeah, he gave

13:37

us bananas that was offering. Very

13:40

kind of a reason. Question for you. So

13:42

he said that we share values in terms

13:44

of even duty. So

13:47

can you help us think through that?

13:49

Like when I think of duty with

13:51

regards to Hinduism I think, you have

13:53

mentioned it in other

13:57

episodes that we have done with you, but

13:59

General Arunjan's I'm probably butchering the

14:01

name, but he had a duty

14:04

to Shiva, right? And that was

14:06

to kill his relatives

14:08

who were on the opposite battlefield because

14:10

these people could be reincarnated one day

14:12

anyways. That his

14:15

duty was to God

14:17

was that I can't remember what the word

14:19

is in Hinduism. Is it Dharma or is

14:21

it Dharma? Yes, that's your

14:24

Dharma. Yeah, yeah, that's your Dharma.

14:26

So that was his duty to that God, right?

14:28

And then you said that you were to Shiva

14:30

was murder your relatives because you're fighting in

14:32

a war against them. Don't worry, they'll be reincarnated.

14:35

So duty with regards to Christianity

14:38

is different though, right? Because it's a

14:40

different God. Do we even share? Do

14:42

Christians share the same Dharma as

14:45

the Hindu? Just because we use the same word doesn't mean

14:47

the same thing, right? Right.

14:51

Right. First thing is maybe

14:53

Ramaswami grew up in the United States,

14:55

you know? So it's a Judeo-Christian worldview.

14:57

Ramaswami thinks that, you know, Hinduism and

14:59

Christianity are all same. In

15:02

many of his clips, like when

15:05

he's speaking, he says that it's the

15:07

same thing. We are one and it's

15:09

the same concept. Hindus

15:11

believe that God resides within us and

15:13

Christians also think that we are here

15:15

for a purpose. That's a whole different

15:17

thing. I mean, Christians,

15:20

as Christians, we don't think that we

15:22

are God, but in Hindu

15:24

scripture or if any Hindu

15:26

gurus, if you ask, they say that

15:28

when you meditate, you know,

15:32

or when you do Kundalini yoga,

15:34

you know, when you reach to the

15:37

highest position, when you reach

15:39

to the highest state, you reach to

15:41

the state of moksha. That's

15:44

the ultimate reality. You get to know

15:46

that's the Brahman. You get to

15:48

know Brahman. And again, who

15:50

is the Brahman? The

15:52

scripture tells, I am

15:54

the Brahman. Aham Brahmasmi. There

15:57

is a Sanskrit, that's a Sanskrit term. Aham.

16:00

means I am that

16:02

Brahman that comes straight out

16:04

of the Chandogya Upanishad which

16:08

says that I am that Brahman. Tatva

16:10

Maasai, these are Sanskrit terms straight comes

16:12

out from the Hindu scriptures

16:14

which says that I

16:16

am that. So

16:18

Rama Swami is just fooling

16:21

everyone by

16:23

saying that it's all same it's

16:26

not the same and like you were saying

16:28

that Arjuna had

16:30

a duty absolutely there are duties

16:32

for all the castes the priestly

16:34

castes the duty is in the

16:36

Bhagavad Gita even the duties

16:39

are given for the

16:41

Brahmins the duties to be priest

16:43

to read the Vedas. Shudra

16:46

cannot read the Veda okay

16:48

many will say no no no Sandeep

16:50

you are just lying as Shudra everyone

16:52

can read Vedas you know Rama Swami

16:54

might say no everyone has the equal

16:56

right is that the case

16:59

let's open Guatamad-Dharma Sutra it's one of

17:01

the again a very prominent

17:03

Hindu scripture where it says even a

17:05

if a Shudra tries

17:07

to listen the Vedas or tries to chant

17:11

the Vedas or tries to do a

17:13

ritual yeah a hot molten lead

17:15

should be put into the ear of a

17:17

Shudra his tongue should be cut off if

17:21

he tries to chant the Vedas so

17:23

Vedas can only be chanted by the

17:25

Brahmins by Rama Swami you know

17:28

a Shatriya the duty

17:30

is to fight to defend the faith

17:32

to defend the religion that's called dharma

17:35

Arjuna's dharma was to fight the war

17:37

to establish truth and Krishna was just

17:39

repeatedly telling Arjuna you have to do

17:41

this you have to fight this war

17:44

and and Arjuna was just not ready

17:48

he had a forgiving heart and he wanted

17:50

to forgive his relatives because he knew these

17:52

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18:22

as Vivek was giving that answer

18:25

on that episode of Relatable, I

18:27

noticed you're flipping through the Bhagavad Gita. Yeah. What

18:30

were you flipping to? I was

18:32

flipping through the Bhagavad Gita. I was

18:34

going through this book,

18:37

number nine. Book

18:40

number nine, verse 20,

18:44

it says that how

18:46

hopeless Hinduism is. No matter how much yoga or meditation

18:48

you do, you just come back to this earth. The

18:55

samsara cycle, the karmic cycle never

18:57

ends. It's just so hopeless. I'll

19:01

just quickly read this verse. This

19:04

is from book nine, Bhagavad

19:06

Gita. It's a part

19:08

of Mahabharata, the epic Mahabharata. Nine,

19:11

twenty, it says those who study

19:13

the Vedas and drink the Soma juice.

19:16

If you remember, I was talking about the Soma

19:19

juice in ancient India. They used to drink this

19:21

kind of hallucinogen

19:24

drink where the gurus or

19:26

the sages, they used

19:28

to drink this to get high. So,

19:31

they think that they go to a different state.

19:34

So, it says those who study

19:36

the Vedas and drink the Soma

19:38

juice, seeking the heavenly planets, worship

19:40

me. Krishna is saying this indirectly.

19:44

Purified of sinful

19:46

reaction, they

19:48

take birth on the pious

19:51

heavenly planet of Indra, where

19:54

they enjoy godly delights. But

19:56

here's the next verse. It

19:59

says, In 9.22 it

20:01

says, when they have

20:03

thus enjoyed the vast heavenly

20:06

sense of pleasure and

20:08

the results of their pious

20:11

activities have exhausted, they

20:13

return to this mortal planet again.

20:16

Thus those who seek sense

20:19

enjoyment by adhering to the

20:21

principles of the three Vedas

20:24

achieve only repeated birth and death.

20:26

That's it. You

20:29

just take birth and you die and

20:31

again that goes on and it never

20:33

ends. In

20:36

the book too also it says that as we

20:38

change our clothes that's how human life is. You

20:41

change your clothes like you die, you take birth.

20:44

So Rama Swami might say all

20:46

are same. We have

20:48

the same worldview. All are made in

20:51

the equal image of God. But He is a Brahmin

20:53

so He is for sure I believe He is very

20:55

proud of His Hindu faith. He has to be proud.

20:58

You are a Brahmin. That's a blessing

21:00

from the Gods. So

21:02

Brahmin can be equally worshipped as

21:04

God actually. Many Hindu

21:06

scriptures say that even. So

21:09

He is proud and that's why He says

21:11

that. But will Rama Swami allow

21:13

a Shudra or will

21:16

Rama Swami touch

21:18

a feet of a Shudra or

21:20

will wash the feet like how

21:22

Jesus did washing the feet of

21:24

the disciples. He being the leader,

21:27

He being God and He is

21:29

washing the feet of His disciples.

21:32

Will Rama Swami do that? I

21:36

don't think so. If He goes back to India will that

21:39

be allowed? Maybe in America but

21:41

not India. And What's interesting

21:43

too is again I Barely know anything about

21:46

Him. I Thought that was just very interesting.

21:48

I Mean this episode is not about who

21:50

you really who you should or shouldn't vote

21:52

for. It's just a compelling clip because we're

21:54

talking about multiple episodes on Hinduism. You Can

21:56

definitely check out the other episodes and content

21:58

we have with Sandeep. From web links

22:01

for that here in the description point

22:03

but the reality is that he is

22:05

and this clip his utilizing true I

22:07

had terminology that does sound very I.

22:10

Christian. Bale sound very judeo christian history

22:12

almost similar to Mitt Romney are we ran

22:14

for president where he how to how that

22:16

sort of very same message when you talk

22:19

about like which god and and the same

22:21

way when the contrast to hinduism have mormonism

22:23

which is a very polytheistic religion in contrast

22:26

to than that and that's a whole nother

22:28

conversation but i'm would be some other examples

22:30

because a big than he is pushing in

22:32

there will point other clip and a second

22:35

was the fact that we are equal in

22:37

the image of god but he also talked

22:39

about. This. Standard like we all

22:41

know and it's not the constitution like he

22:43

appeared to A he appealed to a higher

22:46

law. A transcendent law. Know, as a Christian

22:48

like as christians, we could all be on

22:50

the same page of where that comes from.

22:52

You have a transcendent law for me in

22:55

eternal law giver. So therefore it's internal. It's

22:57

binding. A doesn't change. But. What?

22:59

What's what's center to see. Appealing to like

23:01

when you hear him say that is saying

23:03

is not the constitution It's a higher It

23:05

It's pro. It's a higher law. Where.

23:08

Does he get that? But where does he get that within

23:10

his worldview? Arm or for

23:12

sure, as as he's a vegetarian

23:14

and, and he, he has said

23:17

it publicly many times that he's

23:19

a proud Hindu and he would

23:21

not. Anything. As are you

23:24

know who he's in he's not see

23:26

his leg very ball about is feared

23:28

than and. I. Assume

23:30

Vic. V

23:33

the good said from the Hindu

23:36

faith by but also he he's

23:38

trying to win hearts and on

23:41

owes by by telling people that

23:43

take a toll the same ah

23:45

and we have the same worldview

23:48

because the scriptures if he believes

23:50

unscrupulous I doubt with it he

23:52

of he has ever did ot

23:55

veda. A. Book Dana with

23:57

that he has ever read The Bhagavad

23:59

Gita Oh. The got on with her,

24:01

my shooter. Or even the Ramayana.

24:04

Ah you know his name says Ramaswamy so

24:06

it's connected with around minus two of when

24:08

it comes around my you go to Romana

24:10

straight in or three you have to know

24:13

bible A Jesus you where do you go

24:15

you go to the bible raiders were they

24:17

seem to do you don't read what so

24:19

to said what Desoto Deaths church said he

24:22

got straight to the bible to any up

24:24

in liberal my you go to the ramayana

24:26

and is on my own at the there

24:28

is a guy. Who was

24:31

trying to have like from a

24:33

lower costs and he was trying

24:35

to do a ritual in which

24:37

should be all only it down

24:39

by of a brahmin. A.

24:42

Brahmin. And. Rama

24:44

and at King's son died in a

24:46

daze. A story that King's son goes

24:48

to Ramen saying that he and his

24:50

son has died so promises are. I

24:53

know the reason So he goes for

24:55

the forest and he sees this lower

24:57

costs trying to do a ritual in

24:59

a we should be only done by

25:01

brahmin and so what Ramadi it does

25:04

it. He just so. He.

25:06

He he chops of the head

25:08

off that guy enough as a

25:10

as. Caught.

25:13

The cost estimate is really a big

25:15

deal is yes really a big deal

25:17

in A and Drama saw me I

25:19

don't think our what he says that

25:21

all a same eyes as he sees

25:23

as yeah right Well there's just there's

25:25

just a huge language barrier for Sir

25:27

Andrew Where where? Yes they were quickly.

25:29

Know yet? So you're saying Ramaswamy? That's

25:32

the last name of the brahmin cast,

25:34

right? Yes, Okay, so why

25:36

then? According. To the

25:38

caste system. Wisely not acting. Or.

25:41

Staying within the bounds of the parameters within

25:43

his religion, I know he lives in America,

25:45

but those who are warriors and rulers aren't

25:48

of the brom and cast. And the President

25:50

of the United States is the General Commander.

25:52

Chief. right? Yeah, like a

25:55

blur, a warrior. So. Is. Contradicting.

25:57

even hindu religion by been someone who's

25:59

part of the priest and teacher class

26:02

by trying to become a ruler.

26:05

Yeah, so as we

26:08

know that if you have to fool

26:10

someone, what do you do? You say

26:12

lies, right? You say

26:14

that this is a

26:16

mango, this is not an apple.

26:19

And you just keep on saying that, you keep on

26:21

saying that till the time everyone,

26:23

at least a majority, not everyone, maybe at

26:26

least 10, 20 or

26:28

30% of people starts believing it. A

26:31

lot of people are now rooting for Ramaswami.

26:33

I have asked people and they say that

26:35

this guy really sounds nice and he knows what

26:37

he is speaking. But

26:40

here is the point, what Ramaswami says, if

26:46

he is sitting in front of me, I would

26:48

ask this, that the Rig Veda, book

26:51

10, why does it show a

26:53

difference in Hinduism?

26:56

Why there is so much of caste? Why

26:59

is the God Krishna telling

27:01

to Arjuna that you are born as Sratriya?

27:03

Here is the most funny part, Arjuna,

27:06

the Bhagavad Gita is the most

27:08

holiest book for the Hare Krishna's

27:11

like we know. The whole story

27:13

is the Kaurava and the Pandava they fight,

27:16

the Pandavas were the five brothers and

27:19

the Kauravas were like hundred brothers

27:22

and they fight. So Krishna

27:25

is on the side of Pandavas, the five brothers.

27:28

But guess what, who ends up in heaven?

27:30

Do you know who? The Kauravas ends up

27:32

in heaven, not the Pandavas. Here is the

27:34

funny part, even though the God was on

27:36

the side of the five brothers Pandavas, the

27:39

Kauravas against whom Arjuna

27:41

was fighting, they

27:44

end up in heaven. Because Kauravas

27:46

were from the Sratriya caste and you follow

27:48

your duty. That is what the Bhagavad Gita

27:50

says, you follow your duty, you don't leave

27:52

your duty. So Kauravas,

27:54

they were Sratriyas from the second most

27:56

caste and they fought the war. They

28:00

lost it, but they still ended up in

28:02

heaven Yeah, yeah, and

28:04

I'll just say one thing as we kind of wrap up

28:06

here This is just a very brief case

28:09

study of sorts scaling the language

28:11

barrier Like I said, this is

28:13

what it's really we're really kind of focused in here

28:15

So there's one other clip I want to play from

28:17

even the Andrew found he wants to send over to

28:19

me I'm gonna play this and Andrew

28:22

you said play from the beginning right it. I've got it right

28:24

here, bro. Go ahead and just play it go ahead and play

28:26

it On your end all right. Yeah, I want to hear what

28:28

you got to say about this in deep So let's listen to

28:30

the back real quick So I'll be

28:32

very honest. It's not a question at all. So

28:35

in our faith tradition. He is Christ is

28:37

a son of God I

28:39

know that is different than saying he's the son of

28:41

God But that is my view

28:43

he's Our family would do

28:45

we worship in churches? Yes, we do that compatible with

28:47

our faith. Yes. It is one true

28:49

God in Many forms so

28:52

that's different and I understand that is the

28:54

only way to heaven I

28:56

think I think that that is the path

28:58

that is a path to heaven is the way we work out

29:00

of it Believe in God is at least in the one true

29:02

God So,

29:05

what do you think about that Sandeep it sounds like

29:07

he's being pressed a little bit by someone who is

29:09

a Christian And

29:12

you can see a little bit of a struggle I

29:14

would assume with Vivek

29:16

trying to scale a

29:18

language barrier Between the

29:20

two individuals what what do you hear though when

29:23

he's saying those things? Yeah, so

29:25

he said If

29:27

you remember he said he is a part He's

29:30

not the part But

29:32

he is a part right?

29:34

Yeah, so does

29:37

that there's a difference, right? so like

29:39

I was telling before that Hinduism is

29:41

a Politistic faith so

29:43

you can believe in whatever you feel

29:45

like when I was Coming

29:48

out from Hinduism My

29:51

father had no problem The

29:54

problem started when I chose when

29:56

after all my studies and my

29:58

investigation that. Jesus is the

30:01

only way. And. He is

30:03

my only lord and savior that

30:05

serve. Time. When my or

30:07

when all the problems started or

30:09

in my family. Ah well. so

30:11

so that. All. I see

30:13

is be there is day A

30:16

just fooling trying to fool everyone

30:18

which are hindus of is not

30:20

Actually I write Indo in a

30:22

it right in this bhagavad gita.

30:24

In book eighteen does the last

30:26

book of the public gita. In

30:29

Divorce forty one it says the

30:31

brom wanna shut three as vasher

30:33

suitors. And and be there

30:35

is bomb on us are distinct

30:37

used by qualities born of their

30:39

own nature. Ah, So

30:42

there's a different. They all have

30:44

their duties, you know? Ah, so

30:46

for sure Vivid doesn't seeds a

30:48

D says he's the only way

30:50

and maybe see if he takes

30:52

a governor like a petition. Am

30:55

if he gets that a position

30:57

officially maybe he'll try to tell

30:59

your maker that uses is not

31:01

the only way they are many

31:03

other ways and hinders them is

31:05

one of the now one of

31:08

that we're so people should try

31:10

Hindus. I'm also an and that's

31:12

the most scary part here Now

31:14

we're Vic ah for Soviet has

31:16

said he he he's not the

31:18

that he's our son of God.

31:21

Like Christianize also seen as our

31:23

son of god and and are

31:26

all the Hindu goddess who are

31:28

taught. Like. Were believed that

31:30

they existed on desert so she

31:32

by ease our son of God

31:34

or been. So yeah there is

31:37

just as or above here Americans

31:39

fall thought if there is somebody

31:41

as a cute, articulate, intelligent, well

31:43

spoken or as V Vic but

31:45

I as as a committed devout

31:47

christian and he decided to run

31:49

for political office would he have

31:51

as much I would he be

31:53

able to have as much as.

31:57

Rudy Vallee be able to speak as freely

31:59

as. He has be Vegas here in

32:01

the United States might wind Yeah yeah, why

32:03

or why not? Nice. grew

32:06

so fast alertly not eve are

32:08

Hindus watching these? They know the

32:10

answer. a freezer. Same a Christian

32:12

like so much you know. Proud

32:14

He says on the stage that

32:16

I'm proud to be a Christian

32:18

like be the axes and proud

32:20

to be a Hindu. Isa is

32:22

the same thing happens in India.

32:24

Know with. Norway or Din.

32:26

something will be coming for him. Saw

32:28

a you have to have be a

32:31

Hindu. There's no freedom like this in

32:33

India. Am of these. Nope. Freedom here.

32:35

The anti go to Mars and anti

32:37

gun was some laws we should be

32:39

vague. who knows. Maybe you'll bring their

32:41

has cylinders a right? I'm in Dc

32:44

when and then you in A in

32:46

the Old Testament. And ah,

32:48

there's a verse who says that

32:50

my people are destroyed by the

32:52

lack of knowledge. Does the plan

32:54

and or. Lack

32:56

of knowledge. knowledge you get over Hinduism

32:58

is from the book Dell Dell World

33:00

World is are inseparable may have consequences

33:03

as we talked about our previous episodes

33:05

when you actually look at the outpouring

33:07

of the poverty. a India Alex who

33:09

cleans latrines vs. who able it was

33:11

able to have these type of rights

33:13

or tensions are within the It's a

33:16

direct result of the caste system. Was

33:18

comes from the Hindu scriptures so yeah

33:20

deftly intriguing. I case studies have you

33:22

all have enjoyed this brief episode arc

33:25

are talking about of either promo Swami

33:27

talking about his season's Hinduism and comparison

33:29

to what the Hindu scripture seats are

33:31

very and very enlightening episodes were going

33:33

has you on a more are just

33:36

real quickly tell working people find you

33:38

while you're on Facebook or and yes

33:40

I I'm mostly on Facebook like on

33:42

there and I try to share something

33:45

or Hinduism kind of. Every day is

33:47

a. I am an ex Hindu

33:49

brahmin. That's my Facebook page

33:51

and name. Ah, I try to share.

33:54

The. Scriptures Bisignani know I just

33:56

don't talk are because the scriptures

33:58

at the bedrock off. Any any

34:00

fear dating from crush or does the bible

34:02

here for Hinduism is the V does though

34:04

Gita Cells go Will really enjoy this conversation

34:06

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34:08

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