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people don't know that Jfk had
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a sister named Rosemary. And
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that's on purpose Because and nineteen
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Forty one, When Rosemary wishes twenty
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three years old, her dad, Joseph
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Kennedy Senior forced her to get
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a lot blogger me. All.
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Yes, an ice pick to the
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brain. I covered Rosemary Story in
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our Lobotomies episode Will you need
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to know us at The Reputation
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of the Kennedy Family was everything.
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This is because Joseph Kennedy Senior
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was grooming his sons for careers
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in politics, and the Rosemary problem
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was a threat to the family.
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So they locked her away in
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an institution for twenty years and
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no one even visited her. Not.
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Once and this made me think they
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did this to their own flesh and
1:17
blood. What else are they capable of?
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All. Yes, There scandalous and
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have done some very illegal
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things. but they also literally
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changed America forever and honestly
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redefined American culture. For. The
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Good: And bad, Most people
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think of the Kennedys as America's
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royal family. And just like the
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Royal family, they have skeletons in
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their closet. And. That's the
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T O on. Talk about so
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friends. This is the dark history
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of the Kennedys. And.
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i friends i hope your having a wonderful day
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today. My name is Bailey Sarian and I'd
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like to welcome you to my podcast, Dark
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History. Here we believe history doesn't have to
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be boring, right? It might be
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tragic. It sometimes is happy, but either way,
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it's our dark history. So all you have
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let me tell you about that hot,
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juicy history goss. Mmm.
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It's, it's juicy today. First
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of all, I need to say, there is so
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much to cover with the Kennedys, this could easily
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be like a frickin' 10-parter. Actually,
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the whole podcast could be about the Kennedys. I
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mean, they might be the most studied American
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family ever, but today we're
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going to focus on their greatest hits, I
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guess you can call it. So when we
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think of the Kennedys, I think a lot
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of us immediately think of JFK getting his
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head, you know, shot. Have
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you seen that video? I hope not. I had
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this teacher in ninth grade who made us watch
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it over and over and over
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again. It was my history teacher
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and he would like, did it in
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slow-mo. There was a zoomed in
3:02
version. And mind you, ninth
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grade, I was like, are we really watching
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this guy get murdered in slow motion at
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school? Okay. It
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was, it was really dark. The story
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of the Kennedys has been like so
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romanticized by the media over the years.
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People are obsessed with them. Personally, I've
3:19
never understood it because I just assumed
3:22
they were like an old money family
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that somehow wiggled their way into politics
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and partied their life away
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because, you know, they could. But no,
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nay nay. They were so much more
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than that. Our story starts with
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the patriarch of the Kennedy Empire,
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a man named Joseph Patrick Kennedy,
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Sr. Wow, what a name, you know,
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it was very long, but we're just going to call him
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Joe. Joe was born
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on September 6, 1888 in East
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Boston, Mass. So what
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does that make him? Oh, a
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Virgo. I Think he's a Virgo.
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And Honestly, he's such a Virgo.
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Joe Was born into an extremely
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poor area. Made up of Irish
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Catholic working class immigrants at a
4:03
time like there was this big
4:05
anti Irish sentiment, people who were
4:07
boston bill for the Irish immigrants
4:09
arrived were like. So.
4:12
Many days leave than hot. So
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many were just flat broke, homeless
4:16
and just stuck in a cycle
4:18
of poverty that they couldn't get
4:20
out of. Jos Father Pj was
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beloved by the community. Pj.
4:25
Was the hit. Pj is kind of
4:27
silly, but Pj was in politics and
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it's reported that even though he only
4:31
had a little more money than everyone
4:33
else, he always gave back to his
4:35
community kill sister. One said quote when
4:37
a doorbell would ring it would be
4:40
someone down on their luck coming to
4:42
pop up for help. Papa, can you
4:44
hear me? Yeah.
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You just like a really generous
4:48
guy and this allowed him to
4:50
really succeed in politics. and it
4:52
also taught Jill a valuable lesson.
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Money is the real power When
4:56
yeah, money, you can do whatever
4:58
you want and this really shaped
5:00
your personality. Jealous Described as a
5:02
very. Driven and tenth person with
5:05
a charismatic personality. He was like
5:07
this: blonde. Haired lied Irish
5:09
guy who wore these very
5:11
distinct round glasses. Yeah.
5:13
It's gonna giving Tootsie Pop our will. Remember.
5:16
How many licks? As a take?
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A one or two who are
5:21
three. Animal can come out
5:23
as I can get to the need to
5:25
the summer the you know. That
5:28
was giving. In school, Joe was loved
5:30
just like his father, and he made
5:33
important social connections with the Boston elite.
5:35
Nice connections even helped get him into
5:37
Harvard. and I think if you got
5:40
into Harvard you were set for life.
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I can? I get so sick today?
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but. back then it was
5:47
like you know it was real but
5:49
sadly this wasn't the case for joe
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there was serious prejudice against him and
5:53
harvard because he was irish catholic so
5:55
people without their way to exclude poor
5:58
joe from social circles and power Another
6:01
student looked at him like he
6:03
was just a pathetic Irish kid.
6:05
This was frustrating because he did
6:07
the work to get there. He
6:09
was determined to join the banking
6:11
industry when he graduated and become
6:13
rich. But after graduation, he struggled
6:15
to find a job because no one wanted
6:17
to hire him. It was just
6:19
like at Harvard. He was an outcast just
6:22
because he was Irish Catholic. One
6:24
by one, all his classmates got
6:26
all these coveted banking jobs in
6:28
town. So Joe turned to his dad
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to hook him up with a decent job. And
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daddy came through because Joe
6:35
became a state bank examiner. Even
6:38
though it wasn't like the job he
6:40
imagined, he realized that this was actually
6:42
the perfect job for him. Working for
6:44
the state bank meant he could learn
6:47
all about the inner workings and rules
6:49
of the banking industry. This way, he
6:51
could make the rules work for him.
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At this point, he was done waiting for people
6:56
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to our story. In 1914, he
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made a name for himself by rescuing a
9:57
local bank that was about to go under.
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As a reward. they made him the president
10:01
of the bank. So at the age
10:03
of 25, Joe becomes one of the
10:06
youngest bank presidents in America. Snaps.
10:09
And when I was looking into
10:12
this, I discovered that the bank
10:14
Joe quote unquote saved was actually
10:17
his daddy's bank. Yeah. Uh,
10:20
must be nice. Joe did help
10:22
this bank, but it was all a
10:25
setup from his father so he'd get
10:27
a leg up in the banking industry.
10:29
So this move gave Joe celebrity
10:31
status in the banking world. Finally,
10:33
people stopped treating him like he
10:36
was working class trash. His
10:38
first order of business with this
10:40
new reputation was to lock down
10:42
a wifey. Joe had been in
10:44
a little situationship with a woman
10:46
named Rose Fitzgerald. She was a
10:48
daughter of Boston's mayor at the
10:51
time and they had wanted to get married
10:53
for years, but her dad wouldn't
10:55
allow it because Rose's dad didn't think
10:57
Joe was like good enough for his
10:59
daughter. But when Joe pulled out the
11:01
save the bank move, her father was
11:04
like, fine, you guys
11:06
can get married. Joe's marrying into
11:08
Rose's political family gave him
11:10
VIP access and power to
11:13
the richest families in America. And
11:15
this is the point when Joe
11:17
starts creating his empire. He did
11:19
this by using a little business
11:21
tactic called insider trading. This
11:23
is essentially what Martha Stewart did. Yeah.
11:26
But it's when you invest a ton
11:28
of money into a business because you
11:31
heard a secret tip
11:34
that wink, wink might make
11:36
you a lot of money. And this was completely legal
11:38
back then. So 1919, Joe
11:41
became a stockbroker and because
11:43
of a ton of insider training information,
11:45
he was able to make super
11:48
profitable business moves that turned him
11:50
into a millionaire scary fast. For
11:52
example, he got a tip to
11:54
get into real estate during the
11:56
great depression, like smart, right?
12:00
off of the hurt and loss of others, but
12:02
he followed the tip and it paid
12:05
off. When he started doing
12:07
insider trading, he was worth
12:09
around 4 million dollars, and by
12:11
the end of the Great Depression in 1939, he
12:13
was worth over 180 million dollars. Which
12:18
in today's money is like 4 billion. Daaaaaaammmmmm.
12:22
Yep. He
12:25
uses money to build his family homes
12:27
on the waterfront of Cape Cod, which
12:30
actually still exists today. It's called the
12:32
Kennedy Compound. Road trip? You wanna
12:34
go? Ah! And he
12:37
got this property specifically because it
12:39
sat across the water from all
12:41
those Ivy League assholes who shunned
12:43
him from society. Like
12:45
I said. So Virgo. Right? Ah
12:49
ah! He's like, fuck you guys, I'm
12:51
here. His reputation
12:53
as a fierce businessman even got him
12:55
access to the White House. During
12:58
the Great Depression, he used some of that
13:00
windfall of cash to throw his support behind
13:02
the presidential candidate at the time, FDR. His
13:06
donations and fundraisers were key to
13:08
FDR getting that presidential crown. So
13:11
when FDR was elected president, he
13:13
made sure to pay back Joe.
13:16
But not with money. Joe had enough
13:18
of that. He's like, no no. FDR gave
13:20
Joe the thing he wanted most. Political
13:23
power. So he's given
13:25
a position that essentially puts him
13:27
in charge of the stock market.
13:29
And one of the first orders
13:31
of business Joe has is to
13:33
make sure no one can ever
13:35
get a fortune like he did.
13:37
So Joe actually helps make insider
13:39
trading illegal. Ah, what
13:42
a dick. He was like, I know I did it, but
13:44
like no one else can do it. Just
13:46
me. At the same time, Joe and
13:48
FDR's son created a super profitable booze
13:51
company. Right, as the prohibition was
13:53
ending. Yeah, I guess he just
13:55
so happened to know that prohibition
13:57
was ending. He's like, oh my
13:59
God. Isn't that crazy? I just like
14:01
guessed. Here's booze. Now that Joe
14:04
had all this money and power and
14:06
his political dreams were starting to come
14:08
true, he decided to expand his portfolio.
14:10
And this time he wasn't going to
14:12
invest in a boring ass bank. He
14:15
was going to invest in Hollywood,
14:17
baby. Yeah. Joe
14:20
started convincing investors to buy up Hollywood
14:22
studios that were in trouble. He was
14:25
also giving advice to all these studios
14:27
on how to stay open and be
14:30
profitable. So Joe actually became
14:32
like a huge important advisor in
14:34
early Hollywood. When he got to
14:36
Hollywood, he set his sights on
14:38
the most famous actress at that
14:40
time, Gloria Swanson.
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Just like everyone in town, Gloria was depending
14:45
on advice from Joe to help with her
14:47
production company. And before you know it, the
14:49
two of them, they were in
14:51
love. The problem? They
14:54
were both married. Geez.
14:58
So Joe uses his power and influence to
15:00
get Gloria's husband, a job in
15:02
Europe. He's like,
15:04
yeah, Europe, send him there. So
15:06
the two could run around Hollywood like
15:08
the married couple they wanted to be. Joe
15:10
immediately gets super involved in
15:12
Gloria's movie career. He convinces her
15:14
to use all her money and
15:17
go into debt to star in this expensive,
15:20
unique movie that
15:22
no one in Hollywood would touch. He
15:25
was the money genius after all. So
15:27
Gloria was like, okay, yeah, I'll do
15:29
whatever you say. But just a few
15:31
months into the movie, the production was
15:33
$11 million over budget. Joe,
15:38
what happened? You know, whoopsie.
15:41
So naturally they were forced to
15:43
shut it down. After this,
15:45
Gloria got this horrible reputation in Hollywood
15:47
and like no one would hire her
15:50
for their movies. Her career was just
15:52
completely over. Gloria's husband wrote her letter
15:54
saying that he knew about the affair.
15:57
Oops, and then he broke up
15:59
with. her. I know damn when it
16:01
rains it works. Gloria
16:04
turned to Joe for support and
16:06
he looked her dead in the
16:08
eye said nothing and apparently
16:10
just walked out. So
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Joe ended up returning home to focus on
16:18
raising his nine children he had with Rose.
16:21
Now at this point the Kennedy kids
16:23
are just rich kids living life playing
16:25
sports and partying their lives away. Joe
16:28
let them have their fun you know
16:30
but he also let them know that
16:32
this wasn't a game god damn it.
16:34
He had expectations of them. They
16:37
needed to marry the right people,
16:39
prepare for public life, and most
16:41
importantly know how to present themselves
16:43
as a Kennedy. And this started
16:45
at the family dinner table I
16:47
guess. Apparently it's the Kennedy House.
16:49
Small talk was not allowed. The
16:52
only things they could discuss were
16:54
history, politics, and national issues. And
16:56
Joe wanted his kids to be
16:58
competitive and outsmart each other at
17:00
the table. I'm picturing them like
17:02
what do you have to say about geopolitics? And
17:04
they're like daddy I'm six I don't know. The
17:08
pressure. Joe didn't go from nobody
17:10
to VIP list for nothing and even
17:12
though he was getting older he knew
17:14
his legacy would live on forever if
17:17
only his kids would cooperate. Together they'd
17:19
find a way to run America and
17:21
change politics forever. Now
17:23
if there's one Kennedy you've heard about
17:25
it's most likely JFK. John
17:28
Fitzgerald Kennedy. He was
17:30
born on May 29th 1917. He was the second eldest son
17:32
and he had a tougher childhood
17:37
because I guess he was sick a lot as
17:39
a kid. With John I guess there was always
17:41
something wrong. But despite that he
17:44
was smart, popular, athletic, and went on
17:46
to go to Harvard just like his
17:48
daddy where he graduated in 1940 with
17:50
honors. After
17:53
graduating John went on to serve in
17:55
the Navy during World War II and
17:58
he was a freakin war hero. Oh
18:00
wow. In August of 1943, JFK was
18:02
the captain of a patrol boat that was intercepting
18:07
Japanese warships. At 2 a.m. one
18:09
night while everyone else was sleeping,
18:11
he noticed another boat like coming
18:14
towards them. At first he thought
18:16
it was another American patrol boat,
18:18
but pretty soon he realized it
18:21
was a massive Japanese destroyer coming
18:23
straight at them at almost 50 miles
18:26
an hour. He's like, oh shit. Before
18:28
he could do anything, the destroyer sliced
18:30
the patrol boat in half, tearing
18:33
right through it in just seconds. John
18:36
and the surviving sailors were just like holding
18:38
on for dear life to the remnants of
18:40
the boat and just like floating
18:42
in the middle of the ocean. Now
18:44
this is where everything might have ended
18:46
for John and the other surviving sailors,
18:49
but guess what? Not here baby.
18:51
Because John had been a champion swimmer
18:53
when he was at Harvard. This crazy
18:56
man. He swam with
18:58
two wounded soldiers essentially carrying them
19:00
by their life jackets and
19:02
they swam for hours in the
19:05
Pacific Ocean and finally making it
19:07
to dry land. But the problem was,
19:09
I mean they made it to land
19:11
right? Great. But the problem was this
19:13
was a deserted island with no food
19:16
or water and most of
19:18
his men were injured and just
19:20
exhausted. But not John. No no.
19:22
John spies another island in the
19:24
distance and he's like well shit
19:26
worth a try. Okay. So he
19:28
guides his men to the second island.
19:31
After four days with no food or
19:33
water, the 11 survivors are so stoked to
19:35
find that there are coconuts for them to
19:37
eat on this second island. And JFK is
19:39
starting to get worried about the injured men
19:41
that he's been taking care of. Like aren't
19:44
they gonna make it? So once again, John
19:46
swims, he's
19:48
a dolphin. He swims to another
19:50
island. This one is called Nauru
19:52
and thankfully the locals living there
19:55
are friendly. But they're typically
19:57
still in enemy territory so John really is a
19:59
good friend. has to be careful. He's
20:01
got to like keep a low profile. But
20:03
he also needs food, supplies, and a boat
20:06
if they're gonna like make it out of
20:08
there alive. So John over
20:10
here pulls a genius move and
20:13
carves a coded message onto a
20:15
coconut. Yeah this sounds fake huh?
20:18
It's real. So he ends up giving
20:20
the coconut to one of the locals
20:22
who then passes it along to the
20:24
New Zealand forces that were stationed in
20:26
the area. The message on the coconut
20:28
said, Nauru Island 11 alive,
20:30
need small boat. Kennedy.
20:33
Straight to the point. We love that. So
20:35
then they just wait right? Just hope for
20:38
the best. Well the next day the locals
20:40
came back with food and water
20:42
for them and I guess the
20:44
coconut telegram had worked because after
20:46
six long days they were finally
20:48
rescued. Wild. Mostly thanks
20:50
to John right? And his swimming skills.
20:53
He's like Flipper out there. Did
20:55
you watch that show Flipper? I loved it. So
20:58
little John Kennedy comes home a total
21:00
war hero when it's all over. But
21:02
the crazy thing is JFK was never
21:05
supposed to be the Kennedy who became
21:07
a big deal. They were all special
21:09
in their own way of course. But
21:11
it was JFK's older brother Joe Jr.
21:13
who was supposed to really secure the
21:16
family legacy by becoming the
21:18
president of the United States. But
21:22
there was a little problem. Joan
21:25
said I'm looking a little tired
21:28
lately. Dehydrated
21:31
she said. Even pointed out
21:34
a dark spot she may have noticed.
21:37
I think she was trying to hurt my feelings and
21:39
it did work. Okay you're so rude. So
21:42
you know I went I went home I
21:44
looked in my magnifying mirror for a little
21:46
too long. Turns out
21:49
crows maybe have good eyesight. I don't know.
21:51
Either way I mean she's not
21:53
wrong. I am dehydrated and
21:55
none of my moisturizers seem to
21:57
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23:16
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23:19
Yeah, I'm sorry to just dump it on you like that, but
23:21
listen, I didn't know how to do it. You
23:24
see, he dies in a kind of
23:26
mysterious plane crash in 1944. He's
23:29
also in the army, but the circumstances around
23:31
his death are a little... weird.
23:36
The government never disclosed how he died
23:38
exactly and why the plane even went
23:40
down. So, you know, I guess
23:42
we'll never know. But what we
23:45
do know is that he died.
23:47
And this gaping hole in the family
23:49
tree meant that someone had to step up
23:51
and fast. JFK is
23:53
27 at the time, and he's
23:55
essentially next in line for the throne. Suddenly
23:58
he's the one feeling that pressure. eldest
24:00
boy pressure, you know, it's given
24:03
succession, you know? Growing
24:05
up his mom Rose told all of
24:07
her kids that quote, to whom much
24:09
is given, much is expected,
24:12
unquote, iconic, right? And this is
24:14
basically like the Kennedy family motto,
24:17
some bumper stickers, hats,
24:19
t-shirts, just kidding, but
24:22
like I love it. So after Joe
24:24
Jr. died, both Mr. and Mrs. Kennedy
24:26
expected big things from JFK.
24:29
Actually, they were expecting him to be
24:31
like his older brother. Suddenly, all the
24:33
dreams they had for their oldest son
24:35
just transferred right on down to little
24:38
JFK. In 1952, JFK,
24:40
now 35, ran for Senate and
24:42
what's crazy is that he was
24:44
considered an underdog at the time.
24:46
He was also considered a man
24:48
of the people. He represented progress
24:50
and hope and it was kind
24:52
of a threat to the existing
24:54
politicians, so everyone was was really
24:56
shocked when he won and this
24:58
really put the political spotlight on
25:00
JFK for the first time. But
25:03
was this enough for Dutty? Of
25:06
course not, no. Like I said,
25:08
everything that was planned for Joe
25:10
Jr. suddenly fell onto JFK's shoulders.
25:13
So the family decided that in 1960,
25:15
he was going to run for president,
25:17
god damn it. Another problem?
25:19
Yes, another problem. Even though JFK
25:22
had been in Congress for
25:24
14 years at this point, he
25:26
wasn't really seen as much of a
25:28
threat going into the presidential election. Apparently,
25:31
he was most known for being a
25:33
quote witty playboy more than anything else.
25:36
So he wasn't really like taken seriously. JFK
25:38
had gotten married in 1953 to
25:41
Jacqueline Kennedy-O-Nassus. Or
25:44
as most of us know her, Jackie
25:46
O. They were a very hot, it
25:49
couple. Jackie was seen as this
25:51
cool fashion icon girl who like
25:53
studied in France. She's like,
25:55
oh, we we. And then JFK was,
25:57
you know, JFK. They
26:00
were a good looking couple, but
26:03
just like his daddy, he too
26:05
loved the ladies. A little too
26:08
much. Actually a
26:10
lot. Okay. Some people claim that this
26:12
was always a major issue in their
26:14
marriage and Jackie hated it. Other
26:16
people say that Jackie knew what she
26:19
was getting into when she married JFK
26:21
and she just like tolerated it, but
26:23
who knows for sure. Anyway,
26:25
when JFK announces that he's running
26:27
for president, there's plenty of
26:29
people who were skeptical. Besides
26:31
being a witty playboy, he
26:34
was also Irish Catholic.
26:36
No US president had ever been Irish
26:39
Catholic before. It's hard to
26:41
imagine nowadays, but back then this was a
26:43
huge issue. JFK was essentially facing
26:45
the same issues that his dad
26:47
had dealt with, but on a
26:49
much bigger scale. But
26:52
if there's one thing that's going to
26:54
help you win an election, it's
26:56
money baby. MUNNER. And
27:00
like the Kennedys, they had plenty
27:02
of it. They didn't need to depend
27:04
on donors like everyone else. Papa
27:06
Joe was ready to shell out the big
27:08
bucks to make sure his boy won. That's
27:11
my boy. JFK was
27:13
pretty like shameless about his wealth. He
27:16
flaunted it, you know, and publicly
27:18
would joke about his dad essentially
27:21
buying the election. Oh
27:23
yeah. JFK is on record saying
27:25
quote, I have just received
27:27
the following wire from my generous daddy.
27:29
Dear Jack, don't buy a single vote
27:31
more than necessary. I'll be
27:34
damned if I am going to pay for a
27:36
landslide. End quote. Alright.
27:39
Good for daddy, huh? JFK's campaign
27:41
was called quote, the most highly
27:43
financed, the most plush, the most
27:45
extravagant in the history of politics
27:48
in the United States. I
27:50
guess even still, it was a close ass race.
27:53
At this time, JFK was up
27:55
against Richard Nixon and the
27:57
one contest Nixon wasn't beating Kennedy yet.
28:00
Yeah, was the beauty
28:02
contest girl. I mean,
28:04
Kennedy was like bronze, he had nice
28:06
hair, he was like, ah. And get
28:08
this, this was the first televised presidential
28:10
debate, so looks mattered.
28:12
And everyone was tuning in to
28:15
watch this debate. Many historians say
28:17
that a major reason JFK won
28:19
the presidency was because he was
28:21
simply better looking. I
28:24
mean, I get it, I'd vote for the hot one. You
28:26
know, I'm like, damn, he's fine. Joan,
28:28
is that why you support JFK? Ah,
28:31
split. Ah, ah, I'm a
28:33
skinny girl. So in
28:35
1961, JFK fulfilled his daddy's
28:38
biggest dream and became the
28:40
35th president of the United
28:42
States. Do, do, do,
28:45
do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
28:48
Woo, you know, yeah, there was a
28:50
hottie for the first term in the White House. Ah,
28:52
and a Catholic. Ah, girl,
28:54
the Irish Catholic community was
28:57
stoked. This was a big win
28:59
for them. And for Papa
29:01
Joe, it was said that, quote, the
29:03
election of John F. Kennedy as president
29:05
of the United States was the ultimate
29:08
victory for Joseph Sr., who
29:10
as a Catholic had been belittled
29:12
and excluded by a person's elite
29:14
society. And, quote, it's not like
29:16
his dad really ended up marrying him. Basically,
29:19
if you ever had beef with anyone, just
29:21
pressure your son or daughter into
29:24
becoming the president and, like, they'll
29:26
show them. So
29:28
now just a little fun fact. Remember that
29:30
coconut that John carved the help message into?
29:33
You know, his little friend Wilson? Well, he
29:35
turned it into a paperweight and
29:37
it was on his desk when he was president. Beautiful,
29:40
just a full circle moment for
29:42
that coconut. But, you know, it
29:44
wasn't all sunshine and lollipops because
29:47
remember how I mentioned that JFK was known
29:49
for being a bit of a playboy? Well,
29:52
that didn't stop when he became president. No,
29:55
you thought, but it didn't. Luckily
29:57
for JFK, back in the 60s, There
30:00
was like an unwritten rule that the
30:02
press didn't report on the president's private
30:05
life. I know how
30:07
nice, huh? Especially when it came
30:09
to extramarital affairs. So I
30:11
guess like the newspapers, they just looked the other way.
30:14
It was just a really different time, you know?
30:16
But even if the papers weren't talking,
30:19
JFK, he was. So
30:21
after only meeting the Prime Minister
30:24
of England once, JFK
30:26
told him, quote, I get these
30:28
terrible headaches if I don't have
30:30
a woman every three days, unquote. I
30:32
mean, same. I get massive diarrhea if
30:34
I don't have a man every three days. But
30:37
he's the president. Be better. Huh? He
30:40
just said a woman. So,
30:42
you know, like not his wife, not Jackie.
30:45
Just a woman, any woman,
30:47
any woman with a hole or a mouth,
30:49
which is a hole. Hole? Moving
30:52
on. Some of these women
30:54
eventually came forward to share their experience
30:57
when they felt like it was safe enough
30:59
to do so. One of these
31:01
women was named Mimi Alford. Now
31:04
Mimi was literally four days
31:06
into her internship at the White House
31:09
and only just 19 years old when
31:11
JFK invited her to go swimming
31:14
in the White House pool. So
31:16
I mean, it's her
31:18
fourth day. So Mimi felt like
31:21
she couldn't turn down an invitation
31:23
from the president of the United States
31:26
to go swimming. So she
31:28
said, OK, again,
31:30
what else are you going to say except? Yes. So
31:33
later that night, she ends up
31:35
meeting with the president again in like
31:37
his room situation. And he
31:39
asked if she wanted to go on a private tour
31:41
of the White House. So he gives
31:44
her a little tour and he takes her
31:46
to like his wife's bedroom and was like,
31:48
here's my wife's bedroom. And he's like, OK,
31:50
great. Then he brings her back to his
31:53
room where the two would go on to
31:55
have sexual relations. And
31:58
that's the first place Mimi had sex. for
32:00
the first time in her whole life,
32:02
you know, with a 45 year old man who
32:05
happens to be the president and her boss. I
32:07
know, and I was like, wait a second. The
32:10
White House had a pool? What? Is
32:12
it heated? I guess it was because JFK had
32:14
like a bad back, so he liked the pool heated,
32:16
so it felt good on his back. But
32:19
then they sense covered it. So it no
32:21
longer has a pool. So JFK continued to
32:23
keep Mimi close to him, especially
32:25
times when Jackie wasn't around. That's the only
32:27
time he called her. So over
32:29
time, this made a lot of the other
32:32
interns at the White House question
32:34
Mimi, dislike her, kind of talk
32:36
behind her back, because
32:38
they saw that she was getting special treatment.
32:41
And also she wasn't even doing her job anymore
32:43
at one point. She was like there just
32:46
to be Kendi's girlfriend kind of
32:48
whatever, you know? And if this
32:50
is sounding romantic to you, okay. Well,
32:54
behind closed doors, JFK
32:56
was asking for some pretty
32:59
messed up things, you know? Mimi came out
33:02
with a book many years later called
33:04
Once Upon a Secret. I read
33:06
it over the weekend, really well written. So
33:09
good. And in the book, she
33:11
includes some truly like just sad moments.
33:13
So one time they're swimming in the
33:15
pool and JFK turns to Mimi and
33:18
tells her to quote, take care of
33:21
his friend. So she swims over
33:23
to the guy and she ends up performing some
33:25
like, you know, mouth service
33:27
to this man while JFK
33:30
floated and watched. Yeah.
33:33
And I guess Mimi wasn't the only one.
33:35
He was having tons and tons of affairs.
33:38
But the only affair that people were
33:40
really talking about was with like the
33:42
hottest person in America. Hey,
33:46
Joan, what do you think this rash is right here?
33:48
It keeps spreading. Do you think I'm gonna have
33:51
to get my arm chopped off? Will
33:53
I be able to host a show? Who's gonna help me host
33:55
the show? There's no me, is it
33:57
contagious? You know? What's
33:59
that, Paul? I
34:01
should go see a doctor. Fine
34:04
you guys, I'll stop being so dramatic. Paul,
34:06
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35:02
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35:04
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history. Thanks
35:24
for reminding me, Cole. So
35:30
I don't spiral. The
35:32
president and none other than Marilyn
35:34
Monroe were seen hanging out together
35:36
at parties in Malibu, Palm Springs,
35:39
and New York. And of
35:41
course there were rumors. As
35:43
these rumors sometimes made it into
35:45
the tabloids, but people weren't really
35:47
sure like what was happening. That
35:50
is until the birthday song.
35:53
Happy birthday,
35:57
Mr. President.
36:00
Very famous. Some
36:03
people saw that shit, they were like, mmmhmm.
36:05
There was this big gala at Madison Square Garden on
36:08
May 19th, 1962. And
36:11
Marilyn Monroe comes out on the stage in
36:13
this skin tight dress that she literally had
36:15
to be sewn into. It was
36:17
gorgeous on her. That bod, wow. And
36:20
she sings the sexiest version of Happy
36:22
Birthday you've ever heard in your life.
36:25
According to Marilyn's close friends, she wasn't
36:28
wearing any kind of bra or underwear
36:30
either. It was like the closest thing
36:32
to being naked you could get away with at
36:34
an event like this. It's also
36:36
the dress that Kim Kardashian wore at the Met
36:38
Gala. Remember? Everyone
36:41
was like outraged. Oh, God, Shay, oh my
36:43
God. But it's a pretty dress. Right?
36:47
Don't come for me. After the song,
36:49
when they're giving JFK his birthday cake,
36:51
he apparently said, quote, I can now
36:53
retire from politics after having had Happy
36:55
Birthday sung to me in such a
36:57
sweet, wholesome way. Hahahaha.
37:01
Who's joking, of course, because her
37:04
delivery and dress and everything had
37:06
been very sexual.
37:09
I'm sure she saw it, but thankfully
37:11
Jackie wasn't there that night. But
37:13
of course, she heard about it.
37:16
I mean, everyone heard about it.
37:18
The exchange between Marilyn and JFK
37:20
was so tongue in cheek and
37:22
familiar that people were like, oh,
37:25
yeah, baby. It
37:28
was a pretty wild thing for Marilyn to do. But
37:30
at this point, her life was
37:32
in a bit of shambles. The
37:35
studio she worked for was trying to fire
37:37
her and she wasn't getting any movie offers.
37:40
She was a bit of a loose cannon. So
37:42
this was all bad news for JFK because
37:45
he couldn't risk a scandal. And
37:47
Marilyn was apparently running her mouth
37:49
around town just talking about how the
37:51
president was planning on divorcing Jackie
37:54
and was going to marry her. Now
37:57
Marilyn was big trouble for
37:59
JFK. JFK. I mean think about
38:01
it. None of the other girls he was
38:03
sleeping with had the platform or power to
38:05
like ruin his life the way that Marilyn
38:08
could. And many believe she was having
38:10
an affair with not only JFK, but
38:13
also his younger brother, Bobby
38:15
Kennedy. So
38:20
not long after this whole birthday thing
38:22
happened, JFK just like stopped taking
38:25
Marilyn's calls. I guess she was like
38:27
calling at the White House, too. I
38:30
mean he was just like straight-up afraid of what
38:32
she might reveal next.
38:36
Less than three months after the happy
38:38
birthday song on August 4th, 1962, Marilyn
38:43
Monroe died. The LA
38:45
County coroner's office ruled her death as
38:47
a probable
38:49
suicide. Huh?
38:52
Yeah, but people
38:54
think that JFK's brother Bobby,
38:57
who was Attorney General at the time, may
38:59
have even played a role in Marilyn's death.
39:02
Witnesses claim to have heard a disturbing
39:04
tape from Marilyn's home from the night
39:06
of her death and on it you
39:08
can hear the voices of two men.
39:11
Many believe that one of the male
39:13
voices is actually Bobby Kennedy screaming
39:15
at Marilyn. Marilyn's own
39:17
ex-husband, famous baseball player Joe
39:19
DiMaggio, always blamed the
39:22
Kennedys for her death. Oh, yeah.
39:24
He said, quote, the whole lot of
39:26
Kennedys were lady killers and they always
39:28
got away with it. They'll be getting
39:31
away with it a hundred years from
39:33
now. End quote. Then like
39:35
tragedy strikes again. On November
39:37
22nd, 1963,
39:39
in Gallus, Texas, JFK
39:42
was assassinated. He was just minding
39:45
his own business, waving people, riding
39:47
in a convertible with his wife Jackie, doing
39:50
a little, you know, tour of the state. He's
39:52
like, yay, thank you. Everyone's cheering for him and
39:55
then out of nowhere,
39:57
a man named Lee Harvey Arden,
40:00
Oswald shoots him. And
40:03
we literally don't know why he
40:05
did it, because two days later
40:07
Oswald is shot and killed. What
40:09
the cover up is happening? According
40:11
to Time Magazine, quote, the explanation
40:14
of Oswald's motive for killing President
40:16
Kennedy was buried
40:19
with him,
40:21
end quote.
40:25
So the morale in the Kennedy
40:27
family and the country in general
40:29
was in the gutter after JFK
40:31
was killed, but families like the
40:33
Kennedys have a plan for stuff
40:36
like this. They essentially have this
40:38
royal bloodline thing happening, right? It's
40:40
kind of like when Queen Elizabeth
40:42
II died, the throne
40:44
went to her son Charles, and
40:46
then eventually it's gonna go to
40:49
William. But like that's how the
40:51
Kennedys operated. So the family then
40:53
turned to their third oldest son
40:55
Bobby. After he made
40:57
a name for himself as the Attorney General,
40:59
it was decided that Bobby would run for
41:02
president. In 1968 things
41:04
were looking good on the campaign trail, but
41:07
then disaster struck. Oh
41:09
my god, I know. Bobby was assassinated on June
41:11
6, 1968. Like I said earlier, I mean we
41:15
could do an entire episode on just
41:18
Bobby alone. I mean this guy
41:20
made a lot of
41:22
enemies, and just like his older brother,
41:24
there were a lot of questions
41:27
and theories surrounding his death. But
41:29
like look, here we are.
41:31
Three Kennedy sons, Joe Jr.,
41:33
JFK, and Bobby, all
41:35
died young. Their sister Kathleen ended
41:38
up dying in a plane crash
41:40
in France at just 28 years old. And
41:45
then their sweet Rosemary, the forgotten
41:47
Kennedy child, who was forced to
41:49
get a lobotomy at age 23. Yeah,
41:52
well that left her unable to
41:54
speak and walk. And
41:56
she ended up spending the rest of her life
41:59
hidden away in an instant. But
42:01
at this point, people are looking around
42:03
like, what in the hell is going
42:05
on, right? They're honestly wondering if there's
42:07
truly some kind of Kennedy curse at
42:09
play here. Because my God, this like
42:11
is a lot for one family. And
42:14
that wasn't it. Joe Sr.
42:16
You know, daddy, after suffering from a stroke,
42:19
he ended up dying in 1969. I
42:22
know. Poor Rose, huh? The mom?
42:25
That's so sad. That's so sad.
42:29
But the show must go on. And
42:32
thankfully, the Kennedys, they had like one son
42:34
left. Okay, they're like, this is our, where
42:36
Rose is like, this is our last shot
42:38
at greatness. So the spotlight
42:41
turns to the baby of the family, Ted.
42:44
Now you think this is gonna go well? Well,
42:46
buckle in, okay? So
42:48
I hear life is normally easier being
42:51
the baby of the family. Like
42:53
the older siblings have paved the way
42:55
and the parents are just like, tired
42:58
by the time they have the last one.
43:00
So they let things slide a little bit
43:02
more. Now this was not true with the
43:05
Kennedy family. I mean, from day
43:07
one, Ted was living in the shadow of
43:09
his older brothers, but he really
43:11
wasn't that upset about it, you know? Joe
43:14
Jr., John and Bobby essentially gave Ted
43:16
the cheat code on how to succeed
43:18
in a family that demanded the kids
43:20
be perfect. That
43:22
image was everything to the Kennedys. I mean,
43:24
it was, and then all their kids started
43:26
dying, so that's gotta be shitty. So
43:29
after graduating from Harvard, like all the
43:31
boys in the family, Ted became
43:33
a lawyer and started to make his way in
43:36
the world. In 1962, he
43:38
was elected to the Senate where he
43:40
became a major power player over the
43:42
years. And all in all, I mean, things
43:44
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44:19
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44:23
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44:25
traveling from D.C. to Massachusetts.
44:28
Bad weather became an issue and during
44:30
the final approach, the
44:32
plane crashed in an apple orchard.
44:35
It was bad. So the plane crashes
44:38
and the pilot and one of Ted's
44:40
aides died on impact. Ted's
44:42
wife, Joan, had survived and so
44:45
did another senator and his wife
44:47
who were passengers on the plane. After like
44:49
they all climbed out, the plane went up
44:51
in flames. It was very dramatic. Now
44:54
Ted was still in the plane and
44:57
they probably assumed that he was dead. As
45:00
the senator and the wives are escaping to
45:02
safety, Ted lets out a
45:04
whimper and the senator hears his
45:06
whimper, goes back and
45:09
pulls Ted from the wreckage, saving
45:11
his life. Yeah, so
45:15
very, yes, another
45:17
plane crash. Is it not weird? It's weird.
45:20
But after he recovered, Ted rolled up his sleeves
45:22
and came back to the Senate ready to do
45:24
work. He
45:27
had friends in both the Democratic and
45:30
Republican parties and people just generally really
45:32
loved the guy. I mean, the guy
45:34
was energetic, friendly, outgoing, and could make
45:36
people laugh. So after his brothers were
45:38
killed, it looked like Ted was
45:41
next in line to make a run for
45:43
president. But understandably, Ted
45:45
was terrified. I mean, sure, he wanted
45:47
the job, but Time Magazine reported
45:49
that Ted also had a quote, a
45:52
doomed feeling about the prospect, end
45:55
quote. I mean, Ted himself even addressed
45:57
the elephant in the room about running for
45:59
president. He reportedly said, quote, I know
46:01
that I'm going to get my ass shot
46:03
off one day and I don't want to
46:06
end quote. Fair? Fair?
46:09
Yeah. Either way, the
46:11
summer of 1969 rolls around and
46:13
Ted's presidential image is gaining some
46:15
serious heat. It's looking like a
46:17
sure thing that he's going to be the
46:20
front runner for the upcoming presidential election. That
46:23
is, until one fateful
46:25
night Ted's world came crashing
46:27
down. Well, he did some
46:29
stupid shit. Okay. Listen, because the
46:32
day is July 18th, 1969. Ted
46:35
and a bunch of friends are in
46:37
Martha's Vineyard. I hear it's
46:39
real fancy, but it's like an island where
46:41
rich white people race expensive boats and be
46:44
rich and stuff and wear like the sweaters
46:46
tied around their necks. Yeah.
46:49
And that's exactly why Ted was there. Ted
46:51
was racing in the Kennedy family's
46:53
prized sailboat. Because of course
46:55
they had one. So later that
46:57
day, they all went to a different
47:00
island called Chappaquiddick for a cookout. I
47:02
know I wonder what kind of food they eat. Cause you know, it's
47:05
not a hot dog. Anyways, but
47:07
Ted had co-hosted the event for people
47:09
who worked in his brother's campaign the
47:11
year before. Almost like it
47:13
was closure for everyone after the assassination. But
47:16
here's the thing, the party was
47:18
thrown specifically for a group of six women
47:20
who were all single. So these
47:22
six women were known as the Boiler
47:25
Room Girls because they had
47:27
worked in a windowless room in Bobby's
47:29
election office. So I
47:31
get him some sunlight. God damn. You got the money
47:33
bro. Well, the day party
47:35
turned into a night party. They were
47:37
all drinking a lot. Okay.
47:40
It's around 11 15 PM. Ted
47:43
decides to get behind the wheel of
47:45
a black Oldsmobile and writing shotgun was
47:47
one of those Boiler Room Girls. Her
47:49
name was Mary Jo Kapechnie. Now
47:52
Mary Jo was described as a
47:54
smart 28 year old political
47:56
staffer who worked on both
47:58
JFKs and Bobs. campaigns.
48:00
So yeah, she
48:03
likes working for the Kennedys. To this day
48:05
there's all sorts of speculation as to why
48:07
Ted and Mary Jo were in the car
48:09
together. You know, like, were they headed to
48:12
Bone Town? No one
48:14
really knows why they were together, okay? I'm
48:16
sure we can use our imagination, but they
48:18
were together. But according to Ted, he was
48:20
saying that Mary Jo had gotten sick and
48:23
he was taking her to the ferry so
48:25
she could go back to her hotel and
48:27
sleep it off. The ferry was the only
48:29
way to get from the island back to
48:31
the mainland. So Ted is driving,
48:34
you know, as one does. So he's
48:36
driving and he's been drinking. He's driving
48:38
and then at some point he drove
48:40
the car off a bridge and it
48:42
landed upside down in a pond. Don't
48:46
drink and drive kids and
48:48
adults. Stop being idiots.
48:51
Anyways, so they're upside down in the pond
48:54
and even with a head injury Ted somehow
48:56
managed to get out of the car.
48:58
But Mary Jo did not.
49:01
According to testimony, Ted said he dived
49:03
down to the car like seven or
49:05
eight times during a 20-minute period trying
49:08
to save Mary Jo. But
49:10
I guess he was just never able
49:12
to get her. So Ted ends up
49:15
walking back to a cottage at like
49:17
12 15 a.m. where two of his closest
49:19
friends are. Ted gets to these guys and
49:21
tells them what happened and the
49:23
three of them return and again like try to
49:26
get down there and retrieve Mary Jo.
49:29
The whole time telling Ted that like he
49:31
needs to call the cops and report what
49:33
happened. So then it gets it
49:36
gets very flipperish again. Instead of like
49:39
taking the ferry back to the mainland,
49:41
Ted ends up jumping in the water
49:43
and swims back to
49:45
Edgar Town. What's
49:48
up with these people? What?
49:50
You know? Like make it make sense.
49:53
And I guess when he arrives back into
49:55
town Ted doesn't report what
49:57
happened. Ted
50:00
goes back to the hotel to change
50:02
his clothes and then I
50:04
guess he just pastes in his room
50:06
until 7am. I don't know,
50:08
I feel like he could have
50:11
called the cops, right? Oh, okay.
50:13
Then at 7.30am outside the hotel,
50:15
Ted runs into the guy who
50:17
won the sailboat race the day
50:19
before. He's like, yeah, sick sailboat.
50:22
I guess they just chatted about boats.
50:25
Yeah. And Ted
50:27
even said that like, yeah, am I
50:29
joining for breakfast? I'm down. Yeah.
50:33
So, everyone who saw Ted that day said
50:36
he looked totally normal like nothing was wrong.
50:38
You know, like he didn't just drive an
50:40
Oldsmobile into a pond and kill a woman. So
50:43
it isn't until 10am when
50:46
Ted contacts the local police to tell
50:48
them about the car wreck. Mary
50:50
Jo Kapechny's body remained stuck in
50:53
that car under that murky
50:55
water for about 10 hours
50:57
before she was retrieved. Ted,
50:59
that's fucked up. Boo.
51:02
So, when the Chappaquiddick incident broke
51:04
in the national news, well, of
51:06
course, people went nuts. I
51:08
mean, there were so many questions like, why
51:11
were they together in the car? Why
51:13
did the car go off the road? Is there
51:15
something Ted is hiding? Well, obviously, he was
51:18
hiding the fact that he just like killed
51:20
someone, you know? There was a
51:22
whole lot of people who think that Ted didn't
51:24
call the cops right away because, you know, he
51:26
was drunk. He didn't want that blood
51:28
alcohol test. If he were driving
51:30
drunk, it would be evidence of illegal
51:32
activity and Ted could get booked for
51:34
involuntary manslaughter. All the stuff Ted
51:37
would know because he's a lawyer.
51:40
And then, okay, so the news comes out, whatever. And
51:42
then all of a sudden, Ted
51:44
is spotted publicly wearing a neck brace
51:48
on multiple occasions. Like,
51:50
nothing else looked injured. He was just wearing
51:52
a neck brace, you know, for the cameras.
51:54
It just feels a little photo-oppy. Like, hey,
51:56
Mary Jo just died, but my
51:59
neck. I'm hurt too, see?
52:01
My neck, I'm hurt. In
52:03
a national televised speech the week after
52:05
Mary Jo's death, Ted claimed
52:07
he didn't drive drunk, and
52:10
there was no immoral conduct happening.
52:13
He then blamed his weird actions
52:15
after the accident on his concussion.
52:18
Shock and confusion. Now as
52:20
to why the car went off the road and into
52:22
the pond, Ted blamed everything
52:25
but himself. He was like the road was unlit,
52:27
the bridge, it was narrow, and he had to
52:29
get a guard and no guard rail. No,
52:32
no, no, no. Just saying words,
52:35
you know. Not telling the
52:37
truth. Well actually, the truth
52:39
is that we will never really know what
52:41
happened in Chepquiddick, but I'm
52:44
sure we don't guess, right? He
52:46
should have been locked up for that, that's fucked up. But
52:49
what we know for sure is that
52:51
this essentially ended any chance of Ted
52:53
becoming president. Which is
52:55
ironic because all this happened while Apollo
52:57
11 was landing on the moon. You
53:00
know, an event that his brother
53:02
JFK promised would happen when he
53:05
was president. Ted eventually pled
53:07
guilty to leaving the scene of an
53:09
accident and spent zero
53:11
time in jail. Even though
53:13
his shot at the presidency was gone, he
53:16
did continue on in the Senate for
53:18
another 40 years. So
53:22
he can be a murderer and still be in the Senate
53:24
for 40 years? Wow. And to
53:26
be fair, I mean during this time he
53:28
did some great work, he helped pass some
53:30
like major laws and stuff, but... Eh.
53:34
Over the years, more Kennedy family
53:37
members would experience untimely death. For
53:39
example, Bobby, the one who was
53:42
also assassinated, his son Michael had
53:44
died at the age of 39 after a skiing accident. And
53:48
JFK's son, John Jr., died in
53:50
a plane crash in
53:52
1999 along with his wife Carolyn. Damn,
53:56
I know, I mean it's clear that Kennedy
53:58
family should just stay with. from
54:00
airplanes. And hey, I mean,
54:02
these men are risk takers, I guess, but
54:04
even so, it really feels like there may
54:07
be some truth to this whole like curse
54:09
thing, right? Look, curse or not, there are
54:11
two types of people in this world. People
54:14
who worship the ground the Kennedy's walk on,
54:17
and people who say they're snobs who think they
54:19
can get away with anything. Or maybe even you're
54:21
in the middle and you're like, who? I
54:24
don't know, maybe you were just born like, you
54:26
know, recently, welcome to earth. Wherever
54:29
side do you land on? You can't deny
54:31
that this family is the closest thing America
54:34
may ever have to a royal family.
54:36
And their cultural influence is
54:39
massive. The Kennedy family
54:41
has produced a
54:43
president, lawyers, senators,
54:45
authors, actors, actresses,
54:47
journalists, activists, ambassadors, socialites,
54:50
for lantropists, I
54:53
got it. And like, honestly, the list
54:55
goes on. But with all the scandals,
54:58
alleged coverups, and tragedy in their history,
55:01
it's kind of easy to like gloss
55:03
over some of the incredible stuff they
55:05
did. For example, Eunice Kennedy invented the
55:08
Special Olympics. JFK created
55:10
the Peace Corps, and he launched
55:12
the space program as we know
55:14
it. The family has more charities,
55:16
foundations, and nonprofits than you can
55:18
count. And you can't deny their
55:20
commitment to public service. Now
55:22
from 1946 to 2024, there
55:26
has only been four years where
55:28
there wasn't a Kennedy in the
55:30
United States Congress. Can you
55:32
believe that? I know. You can say
55:35
they were only able to do that because
55:37
of their money and privilege. I mean, yeah,
55:39
sure, that is true. But they also could
55:41
have done like nothing with their money and
55:43
privilege and just be rich, you
55:46
know, a lot easier. And to be
55:48
clear, they shouldn't be let off
55:50
the hook for anything, especially
55:52
like, I don't know, reckless
55:54
driving that results in murder. And
55:57
we all know. If you put someone on a
55:59
pedestal, and you look at them
56:01
like they're gods, you're
56:03
just setting yourself up for disappointment. And
56:06
while we're on the subject of celebs, you
56:08
need to come back next week because they
56:10
were at the center of a bloody event
56:13
from American history that no one talks
56:15
about. Oh god, what is
56:17
it? Back in the early 1800s,
56:20
actors in the theater were
56:23
America's A-listers and
56:25
their fans would like do anything for that,
56:27
even if that meant turning New York into
56:30
a war zone and murdering innocent
56:32
people. Super fans they
56:34
call them. Next week we're going to
56:36
learn about the Aster Place riot.
56:39
Have you heard about it? I didn't think so, so come back next
56:41
week because girls wild. Well
56:45
how was that? Did you learn something new?
56:47
I hope so. Well thank you for
56:49
hanging out with me today. You can join me over
56:52
on my YouTube where you can actually watch these
56:54
episodes on Thursday after the podcast airs.
56:56
And while you're there also catch my
56:58
murder, mystery, and makeup. I would love
57:01
to hear your reactions to today's story
57:03
so make sure to use the hashtag
57:05
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57:07
see what you're saying. And I'm looking
57:09
now. Let's read a couple of comments
57:11
you guys left me. In our
57:14
Hedy Lamarr episode I asked
57:16
what should my LA name
57:18
be? And Jennifer Fenton 2074
57:21
has responded quote Linda Sapphire
57:23
should be your LA name.
57:25
I was not
57:28
expecting that. Linda Sapphire.
57:31
I sound very mature
57:33
and rich don't I? Sapphire, Linda?
57:35
Okay. We're like a rich stripper.
57:37
I'm not mad. Thank you for
57:40
your suggestion. Christine
57:43
Feliciano 3269 left
57:46
a comment on our B-baby
57:48
and Furby episode saying quote
57:50
hey dude hey do
57:53
you remember salute your shorts? Absolutely.
57:56
That theme song lives rent-free
57:58
in my mind. This
58:01
is like when Nickelodeon was at its peak and
58:03
I will fight anyone who disagrees with me. Thank
58:07
you for your comment.
58:09
Anderson SC8FE left us
58:11
an episode suggestion saying, Bailey,
58:14
could you do a dark history on Joan of
58:16
Arc, please? I've always been
58:18
curious about her story and think we'd do
58:20
a great job telling her story. Yeah,
58:24
one of my favorite Jones. I'm surprised we haven't
58:26
done an episode on her. Thank you
58:28
for your suggestion and I definitely want to do an
58:30
episode on her. I love you
58:32
for watching and I appreciate you
58:34
for engaging and commenting. So keep
58:36
it coming because maybe you'll be
58:38
featured. And hey, if you don't
58:40
know, dark history is an audio
58:42
boom original. This podcast
58:44
is executive produced by Bailey
58:47
Sarian, Junya McNeely from 3Arts,
58:49
Kevin Grush, and Matt
58:51
Enlow from Maiden Network. Writers
58:53
Joey Scaguzzo, Katie Burris, and
58:56
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58:59
lead, Brian Jaggers. Research
59:02
provided by Xander Elmore. A
59:04
special thank you to our
59:06
expert, Neil Thompson, and additional
59:08
links to Patrick Martin. And
59:11
I'm your host, Bailey Sarian.
59:13
I hope you have a good day
59:15
today. You make good choices and I'll be
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59:20
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