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You're listening to
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the
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drag.
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Sarah Drate, matures in physical
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education at Texas Atmos College in
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Brownsville, Texas. It's a two year
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college and Sarah's a model student.
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She's got a job working in the physical
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education or PE department to earn
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some extra money. She helps
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out with some of the PE classes. Part
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of her job is checking out video materials from
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the colleges media services department.
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Instructions show videos in class like first
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aid or childbirth videos. It's
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the late nineteen eighties, so she physically
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has to go check out the materials. And
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the guy usually work in the checkout desk, retro
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martinez My
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name is Norberto Martinez.
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And my connection with Sarah started
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I
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would say, like, in eighty six
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eighty seven or eighty eight.
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Nadret does his student too. He has
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a work study job. You know, one
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of those positions that many colleges provide
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for long students to have an on campus
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job to make some extra cash?
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We used to handle the audio visual
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department. We used to handle the
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the films. audio cassettes,
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BHS tapes.
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Sata visits notebook at this desk
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a lot. Again,
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I got to know, Sarah, was because
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she used to come, like, every other day
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because she was very regular. She would
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come to the media services, and
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she would fill out the car, and she didn't want
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to take. So what she recorded, instructed,
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requested. There was there was always some
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request as you will always come mostly
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every day to sign the car
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Take the film one second. I'm just outside the car.
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Norberto notices Sarah's unique appearance.
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She's tall and blonde. And like I've
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said before, That's a combination you
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don't often see in the program valley.
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She was
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very athletic. They
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had had colorized, which was different
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from her. but she was already talked
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to the but she was talked to everybody very
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friendly. And I said she was
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from automotive, Mexico,
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Soda lives in Matamoros, but she
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crosses the border to Brownsville to attend classes.
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The walk from the border bridge to the college
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campus is just a few blocks so
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it's an easy and common
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commute.
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We kind of build a we had a group.
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We kind of build a bond. We speak
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from Mexico and, you know, the language
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barrier So it was it
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was a small group, but we we cannot mute
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each other. And
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and this outcome and and use our ability.
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Norecto Seysara is a pretty
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normal college student just like him.
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They spent weeks bonding over the language
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barrier and my first work study students.
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and she's popular, smart, she
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plays volleyball. But
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one day when she comes into reserve equipment,
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something strange happens.
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And she had a necklace and
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it was a
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necklace made out of string
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a string necklace. It wasn't something fancy,
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but I noticed that her necklace
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was was kind of brownish brought me
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to red, and I mean, stood out
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right away. And
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I I was about to touch and say, oh, look,
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what is that? And she sat she
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sat in my hand. I mean, it hit me hard.
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And did I say something wrong
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while I go, don't touch it. Don't touch it.
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I mean, she changed her view freely too. predictive,
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they don't touch it.
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Norretos startled, to
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say the least. He's
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used to this super friendly woman and
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he's never seen Sara this combative
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before.
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And then she reveals more
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about the necklace. She
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says, Norectal can't touch it because
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it's been cleaned by her master. And
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they say, what? Yeah. Yeah. It
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has it's a you say this cake things
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here. It's blood. It's a wild blood.
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Yeah. They say yeah. It's blood from brewsters,
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from animals.
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and nobody's supposed to touch it
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because well,
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this is to protect me. If somebody
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does it, tries to harm me,
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Now if you were to touch it,
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everything
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that comes to me, it will it
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will go forward to you because you're my
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friends and, you know, I know you. I don't want
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you
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for you to have done anything to
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you. So that's why I slap you up.
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After that interaction, Norreto notices
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Saras always wearing that string
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necklace covered in animal blood. Sometimes
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she hides it under her shirt, but
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it's always there. And
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as time passes, he starts to notice
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even more behavior that he finds strange.
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And we
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noticed that she began to have
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a car
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drive a car.
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And we're okay, well, maybe she
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found a better job or she
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found a sugar daddy because she was young and
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beautiful. So we always thought that
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she was getting a a guy
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from a tomorrow, so some rich
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guy from the customs because customs
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used to be make
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money like crazy. And we had the idea
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that she was dating somebody, and
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she and he would I bought her
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a car. And later, she had
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a phone. It was those
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older in the back. They were
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cell phone. Now cell phone were super
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expensive. Only people
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that I knew had cell phone were doctors or
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liars, and they would carry them like
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a purse.
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So she had one of those and he said, wow,
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man. they're only paying you really good.
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Sarah's
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definitely not buying a
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car or a cell phone with the money she
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earns from her part time job on campus.
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Noretto thinks Sarah's a little odd,
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but they keep hanging out as friends. He
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figures whatever she gets up to in her
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spare time is her business.
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His view of her changes when Norreto
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watches a movie overswing brake. It's
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called The Believers. It's a new
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movie. It came out in nineteen eighty
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seven and Martin Sheen plays a psychologist
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who works for the New York Police Department.
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He's working a case featuring a series of
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ritualistic child murder and
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he finds out there's a cult behind it.
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A cult practicing a specific
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type of Bruhariya or witchcraft.
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Even though it's spring break, Notrethe
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still has to work, but things
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are slow. So Notrethe and a friend decide
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to watch the movie while passing time in
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the AP department.
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And
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when we had Bora Muir, we're looking at
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it. And we
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were looking at one time where they were the
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guy was doing was
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pushing something. Right? but it was, like,
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it
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it wasn't Spanish. It was something different.
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And we did not hear
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her coming. And by the
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time we knew she was repeating
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the same thing as what the guy normally was
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saying,
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like an echo, you know. And
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even with a cone, So he when
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you kinda look back and they were silent
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and and and and
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say, hey. Have you seen the movie? He
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said, no. this the and she said you're proud.
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Doesn't that? That is my religion. This
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is This is my my my religion. She
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was, like, very proud of saying that.
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This is when Norberto knew something. Definitely
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isn't normal about Saradrante. She
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doesn't say much about it, but based on how
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she's reacting to the movie, It
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seems like she's saying she practices this
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religion called Paolo Maumbi. Normetto
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doesn't know anything about it, but the
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cult members in the movie are murdering children,
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so it doesn't seem good. It's
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off putting for Notre del. but
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he still has to see her when she comes into his
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office. She shows up again
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over that same spring break. there.
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They say, hey, guys. You know what?
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This weekend, I'm gonna have a podium at the
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morris. They say, oh, cool. This is
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this is bad, but it's pretty brave. I know
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That's why I'm inviting you. I wanna I want
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I mean, by the personally inviting
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you, you know, better put it right there,
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my friend. So you can come to Motor Motors,
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And we're gonna have a blast. I got some
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friends that you you're gonna be
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gonna enjoy it.
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Norberto's not really into the
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idea of going to a party in Matamoros.
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He knows how the city gets during spring break.
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Thousands of rowdy college students from the
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United States flood the bars and streets
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of the city to drinking party. Nagreto
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doesn't drink, plus the crowds
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don't sound appealing.
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No. You know what? I I appreciate it,
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but I don't I'm I'm not going.
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and my friend was saying, hey, let's go man. It's gonna be
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three boos and maybe girls and and
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and and have a fun and you know what I know?
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I'm not I don't care for a previous one. I
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finally refused. I said, no. Thank you very
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much. Maybe when this
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happens, when the spring break is over,
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we might go and, you know, have a beer
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or something. And she
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told me, no. I mean, no. Sorry. Look at the
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therapist. You have no idea what you're
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missing. And I go, well, it's okay. You
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know? I'll pass.
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Norberto didn't realize until
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months later that by declining
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Saratrada's invitation to party
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in Matamoros. he made a
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life altering decision, a
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potentially lifesaving
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decision. It was
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spring break, nineteen eighty nine,
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the
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same week, Mark Halro disappeared.
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Just a month before the Texas College
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student was found in one of more than a dozen
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graves at Rachosante Lena, just
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outside Matamoros, and months
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before Sarah would be arrested for her
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involvement in the cult that killed
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mutilated, and
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RichardALLY sacrificed Mark Kilroy.
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I'm
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Dr.
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You bought her, and
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this is episode four.
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Let's fast forward in time a bit.
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All the way to two thousand
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four, fifteen years after the
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murders are around Rosante del Lima.
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John Carlin is a freelance reporter
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for advice, the second
10:07
biggest newspaper in Spain, but John's
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based in Mexico City. As
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a freelancer, his stories can take him
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pretty much anywhere. So on
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this particular day, he's in
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a Mexican prison to interview a convicted
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killer. he
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was so I mean, he's
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a prisoner, but she
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clearly had
10:28
become, you know, the mistress, the
10:30
sort of commander of
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that jail. You know, she she
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she clearly had
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enormous sway over
10:38
the other prisoners And indeed,
10:41
over the authorities. I mean, then she was in
10:43
this office sitting behind the desk because if she was
10:45
the governor of the prison, you know,
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amazing. That's
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John, talking about Sara Adrete.
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Sara served in
10:53
a prison sentence for her involvement in the
10:55
death of Mark Kilroy and more than a
10:58
dozen others. In
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the years since the murders, Sada's
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face has been plastered across tabloids
11:04
around the world. The
11:06
tabloids claim she's the godmother, Nomadrina,
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of the cult that killed Mark.
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Yeah. Well, I
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mean, there's a there's a particular
11:15
strain of sensationalist
11:17
press in Mexico, which
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I
11:20
don't know about now, but in my day,
11:23
was
11:23
the stuff that sold most
11:25
copies. I mean, you know, kind of
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daily newspapers with colored
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pictures splattered on the
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front page of blood spattered
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body is freshly killed. I mean, there's
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there's something really incredibly
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gruesome
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there. And and And
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so
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the the, you know,
11:45
conveying the perception of
11:47
that i agree that live not ago
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satanic Sara's
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thirty nine years old when John interviews
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her in prison. She's
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among four others who were arrested for the
11:58
series of ritual human sacrifices.
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But
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despite the fact that
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she's just one of dozens
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of people involved in these deaths, the
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media fixated on her. And
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so she was just perfect, you know, and she was
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tall and browned and, you know, I
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mean, it's just it's just absolutely as
12:15
if she was She'd be manufactured
12:17
the as
12:19
as a gift from God for
12:21
the sensationalist Mexican press,
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you know. just such an
12:26
easy target. And not you know, and
12:28
and so we're not talking about a press here
12:30
that's very disposed to consider
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Nuance. Let's just sell this
12:34
sensational character, and we'll sell more
12:36
newspapers through her. In
12:38
a
12:38
story for El paiz, John writes
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that Sarah looks way
12:42
different than the other prisoners. Her
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hair started blonde. She's wearing
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sunglasses on her head. bright
12:49
pink lipstick, and a gold
12:51
bracelet. John
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writes,
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the news is that the letters and la palma
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de la mano
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which means
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she has her jailers in the palm of her hand.
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I talked to John in the fall of twenty
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twenty two, eighteen years
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after he introduced Ada. he
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still can't forget meeting her. Like,
13:10
when I reached out to you,
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kind of, what was that, like, first
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or what did you Like, the first thing that popped into
13:16
your head when, like, her name was
13:18
in your inbox again. When
13:20
when
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you mentioned her name to me, right, it's like a
13:22
sort of a ghost in the past because, yes,
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mean, like I said, I've done so many stories around the
13:27
world since then that I had to sort of
13:29
dig into my, you know, mental
13:31
archive Well, immediately,
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this the image of
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this of this large
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this is our Amazonian
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blonde woman
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came to my eye
13:44
as well. I remember, I I immediately before
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I reread my article,
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I remember the sensations that
13:51
came back to me were on the one hand,
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it was
13:54
something a bit
13:55
intimidating about. there
13:58
was something sort of
13:59
southonic, human, ironic about
14:02
her. And at
14:03
the same time, terribly
14:05
vulnerable. And so
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they're kind of subbing all that
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up, the sense I had was that her I already
14:12
her sort of suddenly intimidating,
14:15
tough commanding
14:16
air were actually
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a
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mask for what
14:20
was, I think, a deeply
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sad
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and
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troubled
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Person. On the
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day John interviewed Sarah, she
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started her conversation with of
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all things,
14:34
a joke. you
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know, am I gonna wear bass today?
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Am I gonna wear bass, bass, bass, bass, bass, bass, bass, bass,
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or bass because bass is the color of the uniform,
14:41
just to wear as a prisoner. and so she was obviously
14:44
being funny, being ironic. But
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John says she gets serious during the
14:48
interview. Sartato
14:50
John dash she's innocent of the crime she's been
14:52
convicted of, that her
14:54
only crime was meeting one man.
14:57
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16:30
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16:33
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16:35
folk religions.
16:36
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16:39
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16:42
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16:44
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16:46
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16:49
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16:52
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16:54
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16:56
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16:58
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17:00
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17:01
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17:04
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17:06
who would go to him asking
17:09
him to do certain things
17:11
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17:13
wants to make a name for himself
17:16
in Mexico. For years, he's
17:18
practiced as a central. That's
17:20
a sort of priest for the religion,
17:22
Andrea. Symphony
17:24
is popular in Mexico, and it's
17:26
a religion that's a sort of fusion between
17:29
Catholicism and a traditional African
17:31
religion. Santheria is complex
17:33
and I'll explain more about it later,
17:35
but essentially people who practice
17:38
Santheria worship various saints instead
17:40
of one god.
17:42
Constance has got a reputation for
17:44
being a really good centeno, and
17:46
he's kind of a big deal,
17:48
like Zama Linda just said.
17:51
He was such a big deal that he was sought out
17:53
by Mexican celebrities to perform
17:55
Olympias for them, which are a
17:57
taboo spiritual cleansing.
17:59
the concept Constanton net did
18:01
a
18:01
lot of cleansing and
18:04
stuff, the people in Mexico
18:06
City. he was he was pretty famously
18:09
known. Olympias
18:10
are a common practice
18:12
in Sanderia and Mexican culture.
18:14
In order to cleanse someone's spirit, Asandero
18:16
would grab some kind of blessed
18:18
object like plants or
18:20
herbs like rue or rosemary
18:23
and then use that object to help extract all the negative energy
18:25
a person might have. Other
18:28
times that sacred object is an
18:31
egg, I've had it done several
18:33
times with an egg in my family. Gonzalo
18:36
became so good at performing
18:38
Olympias that he made connections with some
18:40
very powerful people. On the
18:42
day he meets Saratore for the first
18:44
time, he's actually hanging out with
18:46
the commandante of the Mexican federal police.
18:49
No. Not the current
18:54
before him. So
18:56
according to the former Camden County investigator,
18:58
George Gavito. Consultanto comes
19:00
to Matamoros because he's been asked by
19:02
the commandante to provide protection against
19:05
the cartels. It's a little up in
19:06
the air about exactly why the
19:09
commandant wanted protection from the
19:11
cartels, but then a
19:15
tall, blonde, and young woman.
19:18
He's
19:18
got me though again.
19:19
He noticed this girl crossing the
19:21
street. he introduced himself
19:23
that was sada. So he
19:25
started talking to the sada. He started going up
19:27
with sada, saw a sada
19:29
start falling in love with this guy. I mean, this guy is
19:31
a good looking guy, you know. And
19:35
and and then
19:37
saw us starts talking to him and he says, well, all the
19:39
commandant is. He said, well, I
19:41
got some friends of mine that might
19:43
be able
19:43
to, you know, I
19:45
know that they're running narcotics and stuff and, you know,
19:47
my my knee, the protection of the garment that
19:49
did it, your your friend and everything.
19:52
So that's when he introduced them
19:54
to the to the around
19:56
this group and all that
19:58
in running dope.
20:01
This is
20:01
where the facts get a little
20:04
shaky. Reporting on a story based
20:06
in Mexico thirty three years
20:08
ago has been difficult
20:10
to say the least. Everyone
20:12
remembers what happened a little differently.
20:14
And like I've mentioned before,
20:16
The media sensationalized the heck out
20:19
of the story. You just
20:21
heard Gavito say that Sada fell in love
20:23
with Constance, but Sada
20:25
told the journalist John Carlin that
20:27
that wasn't the case.
20:28
It's hard to know
20:29
what the truth is here since the only person
20:32
who can really say whether Anashi
20:34
left Constantinople is Sara herself
20:36
and she denies it. But
20:39
regardless of Sara's feelings for
20:41
Constancia, romantic or otherwise,
20:43
it's clear the two at least had a close friendship
20:45
in the eighties. Remember,
20:47
Sada is classifieds with Cera Minera
20:49
Grande's and they're pretty good friends too.
20:53
Satisfying is a part of the family that runs that
20:55
big marijuana operation at
20:57
Elanco Santa Elena. So when
20:59
Constance will be friends Sarah and finds
21:01
out who she's friends with, Constanto
21:04
sees Dollar Science, and
21:06
he wants in. Here's Tony's I will
21:08
let that again. Again,
21:10
he he did that. And apparently,
21:12
he was he was successful.
21:15
But that wasn't enough.
21:17
He hooked up
21:19
with
21:21
people who were
21:22
trafficking drug because he was not
21:24
a drug trafficker. He hooked up with people
21:26
who are trafficking drugs and
21:29
transforming drugs all the way to the border
21:31
and then across the border into the
21:33
United States.
21:34
and and
21:37
he put
21:37
himself or proposed himself
21:40
as someone who could help
21:43
them not
21:43
to get caught, not to be caught. And so
21:45
they tried
21:46
him out. And apparently, they
21:48
they felt that it worked
21:49
Consanto uses Sara to
21:52
get in with the Ehrondi's family.
21:54
With his good looks and natural charisma,
21:56
it's easy to see how he starts taking power
21:58
within their organization. He
22:00
bonds with Sara over their shared interest in
22:03
Santarea, which he's extremely
22:05
skilled at, and he's really
22:07
good at avoiding law enforcement.
22:09
It hopes that he's prevented powerful people in
22:12
Mexico, but he's also managed to convince the
22:14
around his family and other members
22:16
of the cult that were soon become
22:18
known as does Nakos Santander
22:20
goz. That is invisible to
22:22
law
22:22
enforcement. He also
22:24
tells them that if they listen to
22:26
him, They too can become
22:28
invisible and for a
22:30
drug smuggling gang, being
22:31
invisible is exactly
22:34
what they needed.
22:35
they believed
22:37
that he in fact was successful
22:39
and that he could do it.
22:41
And
22:41
so then little
22:43
by little over a period of time, not
22:45
that much time. He he
22:48
became he became the
22:50
leader.
22:50
And they because they believed in him and
22:53
trust and trusted in in
22:55
him and
22:55
it works. Remember,
22:58
Cerafina Hernandez thought law
23:00
enforcement couldn't see him. That
23:02
is the whole reason got pulled over at the checkpoint in front
23:04
of Elanco Santander in the first
23:07
place. Consensio's basically
23:09
brainwashed a whole crew of truck dealers.
23:13
Gonzalo's power grows.
23:15
He introduces the drug game to something
23:17
called Balama Muyumbe. It's
23:20
sort of like that popular
23:22
religion practiced in Mexico.
23:25
Actually, it's often confused
23:27
with Santheria and Balama
23:29
Yombe are both African Cuban
23:32
religions, but they come from different
23:34
African nations. Santidea
23:36
originates with the Yuruba people
23:38
in Western Africa, whereas Balama
23:40
Yombe comes from the Congo region.
23:43
Both
23:43
religions were brought to Cuba through
23:45
the transatlantic slave trade where they kind
23:47
of fused with Catholicism in
23:49
order to survive. After the
23:51
Cuban revolution in nineteen fifty nine,
23:54
immigration from Cuba
23:54
to the US increased. So
23:57
both
23:57
religions eventually made their way to
23:59
the US. That's how
24:01
Adolfo Consanto became familiar with
24:03
the religions as a Cuban American living
24:05
in Miami, his mother practiced
24:08
Andrea. and Constenza himself practices
24:10
both religions. And in
24:12
both religions, there are multiple
24:14
deities called auritius rather
24:16
than one god. So
24:18
the two religions have similar origins and share other
24:21
similarities. But there are
24:24
big differences. Here's Dr. Toni
24:26
Zaviletta again. He's an expert on Sandera
24:28
and Balama Yamba, so he
24:30
understands the difference as well. follow
24:32
my
24:32
own man, and they're very they
24:35
uninitiated and uninformed as they put them
24:37
together, but they don't go together,
24:39
they're different. That
24:41
doesn't mean that
24:42
they can't be practiced by
24:45
one person because Constancell
24:48
did, and he learned that from his
24:50
mother. But
24:52
Paulo Myouma is the worship, not
24:55
of saints. but they
24:57
they believe in
24:58
the sanctity and
25:02
or
25:02
power of different plants.
25:05
and
25:05
branches. That's why it's called
25:08
Paolo. Paolo coming from a branch, a
25:10
stick. In addition
25:11
to being a Sandero or a
25:13
priest in Sandria, Gonzando is
25:16
also what's known as Eberneto, essentially
25:18
a priest in the Balama Llama
25:21
religion. In the Eberneto's main
25:23
source of power and worship is
25:25
called a Brenda or an in ganga.
25:27
We'll use the term in ganga in this
25:29
podcast because that's what most people
25:31
we interviewed called it. In
25:33
Ghana is nothing
25:35
more than a cast iron
25:38
cauldron. The
25:39
Paletto or priest foes
25:41
the in ganga with sticks made of various types of
25:44
wood. Usually practitioners
25:46
of Palomoyn Bay should collect the
25:48
sticks themselves, but Safatlanta says they
25:50
can be purchased at places like the Mercado
25:53
Sonora or the which market in
25:55
Mexico City. And and so
25:56
then the Palero begins to
25:59
nurture
26:00
the cauldron and
26:03
they believe bring bring the
26:05
cauldron to life. you
26:06
they would bring it to life
26:09
by placing
26:13
different things in the
26:16
cauldron
26:16
saying the
26:18
the magical fran
26:20
though
26:22
words of of magic.
26:24
The In Gunge
26:25
essentially acts as a shrine
26:28
to worship the various deities at
26:30
Palomoyambi and what goes into
26:32
the In Gunge depends
26:34
on what deities the bellow wants to
26:36
worship. The type of
26:38
wood will vary, but certain deities
26:40
require certain animal elements like the bones
26:42
or to the horse or feathers from
26:44
birds like parents or vultures. When
26:47
we were researching this episode,
26:49
my executive producer, Katie
26:51
Alka, read a book about Bola Muambe, written by a
26:53
Norwegian anthropologist, Nikolaj
26:56
DeMato's Friswold. He's
26:58
an expert and various spiritual practices,
27:00
including Balamayam Bay. In
27:02
the book, Friswold outlines the different
27:04
deities and what they require in
27:07
their incongas. but this isn't an
27:09
exhaustive list. According
27:10
to experts, Balomoumba is
27:12
a religion that's got a few guides
27:15
and a lot of the rest made up according to practitioners'
27:18
personal needs or traditions, which
27:20
could
27:20
explain a lot about why Constancia
27:22
was so successful and manipulating the ADNON
27:25
this drug gang into following him. So you
27:27
can take this with a grain of salt because
27:29
it's just Friswalt's interpretation of
27:31
Balama Yombe. but
27:33
only two DOTs listed in Friswalt's
27:35
book require human sacrifice.
27:37
One who essentially represents
27:39
feminine power, love and sexuality,
27:41
who acquires this call the sex worker,
27:44
and the lord of death Acadian
27:46
Pempe who requires an entire
27:49
human corpse. And based on what
27:51
we know about what was found in the
27:53
Inkanga, it seems
27:55
like the lord of death is who Constance
27:57
will build his Inkanga for.
27:59
It
28:02
was
28:05
believed that it was now a
28:08
living thing that the
28:10
Paletto could control.
28:12
So you could ask the spirits when
28:14
it had a spirit. And in some
28:16
cases, multiple spirits and that
28:19
you could ask the
28:20
spirits to do
28:22
something for you.
28:25
the win
28:27
the
28:27
lottery, cure the
28:29
illness, kill somebody,
28:32
destroy a marriage. I mean, anything.
28:35
There's no there are no exceptions.
28:37
They could all they're involved
28:39
in all those kinds of things.
28:41
So that's that's the Paul
28:43
of my own man. The
28:45
more items you put in the in gaga, the
28:47
more its power grows. And when
28:49
the in gaga's power grows,
28:52
so
28:52
does Constancos. So
28:55
sometime during the summer of nineteen
28:57
eighty eight, nine months before
28:59
Mark Carroy's body is found.
29:02
Concanto starts instructing the members of the
29:04
Hernandez drug game to do more
29:06
than just traffic
29:07
drugs. He
29:08
asked them to conduct people and bring
29:10
them to Rancho Santalena to be
29:13
sacrificed to the Inguanga.
29:15
one of the reasons he was abducting
29:19
and killing people and
29:21
putting their remains in
29:23
the cauldron was to increase
29:27
its power, you know, increase
29:29
its its power That's what he
29:31
that's what he was doing. What their
29:34
their back in the day, you know, eighty
29:36
nine, eighty yeah. Eighty nine.
29:38
eighty nine
29:41
was a was a very unusual
29:44
time in in Brownsville.
29:46
And by early nineteen eighty nine, Constance
29:48
was
29:48
looking for a very specific type
29:50
of person to feed us in Ghana.
29:53
We're
29:53
told he got
29:55
it in his head that he wanted a
29:58
gringo, un gringo, El
30:00
Lucado, Angeliciente. So
30:03
he he told his people
30:05
go out and find me a gringo,
30:07
an intelligent college student,
30:10
and and so that's and because
30:12
he felt he felt
30:15
that the the
30:18
spiritual essence and especially
30:20
the brain of
30:22
that kind of a person
30:25
would be very effective. And
30:27
I'm not sure why. I don't know if he was of his in
30:30
Congo was losing power or
30:32
whatever. We don't know that. I don't
30:34
know that. but
30:36
that's what
30:38
he was doing. Human
30:40
sacrifice isn't used frequently in
30:43
Balama Yombe. according to our research and to
30:45
the experts we've talked to you for this
30:47
podcast. It's mostly animals
30:49
and plants. Zavitha
30:51
says, Constantinople took the religion above
30:53
and beyond what everyday practitioners do.
30:57
Like I mentioned, The
30:59
person practicing the religion can adapt its
31:01
practices to their needs. I
31:02
think he took it well
31:06
beyond what was
31:06
acceptable even for
31:09
people in that in that
31:11
religion. But
31:13
Constance would go
31:16
into a trance, he
31:19
became a different person.
31:22
So during during the
31:25
the process, of sacrifice.
31:27
It wasn't
31:28
Konstantzo anymore. Was somebody
31:31
some spirit that would come
31:33
on into his body and
31:35
and he would speak or
31:37
told a
31:38
language that nobody could
31:41
identify which obviously would be
31:43
an African language. So he would
31:45
become a spirit a spirit
31:47
of one of these Orbanes
31:49
would come to him and
31:52
direct him in
31:54
terms
31:54
of what he was supposed to do
31:57
and that was quite common and happened many times.
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That's women a and d
33:02
crime. As
33:03
Constance instructs members of the court
33:05
to conduct people for their rituals,
33:07
Sara Adrete focuses on attracting
33:10
more members to the call. She's
33:12
going
33:12
around asking people to watch the movie, the
33:15
believers. the same movie she
33:17
walked in on Norberto Martinez
33:19
watching over Spring Break. She and I
33:20
found that very interesting because that's
33:22
in fact a way a new
33:25
religion or a cult would move into an
33:27
area of my educating
33:30
educating people. And she was doing and she was
33:32
doing that. But
33:34
all
33:34
of this comes to a stop once Mark disappears.
33:38
Everyone is looking for Mark and the prince
33:40
is crawling around about the motors.
33:42
So Sada and the rest of the coal have to wait for the heat to
33:44
die down so they can get back to business. Sada
33:48
even helps out with the surge. even
33:50
though his body is on the ranch the
33:52
whole time. Here's Notvetto
33:55
again talking about Sara, passing out
33:57
posters, looking for Mark.
33:59
And you know what? The
33:59
interesting thing is that she was very active
34:02
with her jewelry stuff. She will
34:04
be posting making posted,
34:06
making copies post
34:08
she really asked her permission, hey, can I put a poster here? What is her
34:10
about? But this guy that is a medical
34:13
student from UT that is a
34:15
career in medical, multimodals. So
34:18
I'm trying to see if I can help locate.
34:20
And she had posted, you know, eight
34:22
by ten, like, a right information, and
34:24
she would posted them in different
34:27
locations the college. Like I've told you
34:29
in
34:30
previous episodes, the Brownsville
34:32
community really came together to
34:36
find work. even one of the people who was involved in his
34:38
disappearance. She died. I'm
34:39
pretty sure she knew what had
34:41
happened. Or maybe she knew
34:43
the guy, but he
34:45
he was actually physically trying
34:48
to help try to
34:50
locate
34:51
Kilroy. There's
34:55
conflicting
34:57
information about how
34:59
deeply Sada got involved with the Iran
35:01
is trucking and with Instantos
35:04
cult. In the months
35:06
following Mark's death, the media
35:08
definitely played up
35:10
Sada's connections. calling her as siren and
35:12
Neapristhas. But even to this day,
35:14
Sada denies any involvement with
35:16
the murders. Here's
35:19
Tony's Evelyn Leggin. That's an important part
35:20
of this. All law
35:22
enforcement, being
35:26
law enforcement. were
35:28
concerned
35:28
were
35:30
were convinced
35:31
that
35:32
she was the
35:36
high priestess
35:37
of the cult and had
35:39
been directly involved
35:42
in the murders, human
35:44
sacrifice, And I
35:46
knew
35:46
that wasn't true. And
35:48
and she
35:49
told me it wasn't true.
35:51
But even
35:52
before she told me it wasn't true, I knew it
35:54
wasn't true, because does in this
35:56
cult of Follow my own
35:59
band, Andrea,
36:00
women are not involved are
36:02
allowed and women are not per do not participate. Since
36:04
he's an expert in
36:06
Bolomayong Bay, he feels certain that
36:08
Sada wasn't directly involved in
36:12
the killings. Instead, he thinks
36:13
the media had a right
36:15
call in her siren. She
36:17
lured men
36:18
to their
36:20
deaths. But Salvador says
36:20
she wasn't the one who killed them herself. They
36:24
simply are
36:24
not in involved. And in fact,
36:28
Constance's people said that
36:30
she
36:30
wasn't false. She wasn't there.
36:36
her job, the job that they had
36:38
for Sada was as
36:41
a temptress
36:43
to lure people,
36:46
in
36:46
this
36:47
case, Mark Kilroy,
36:49
into a car or van or
36:52
something to be taken to
36:54
the ranch. But
36:55
but there's absolutely
36:57
no way in my mind
36:59
and from from what
37:02
I know from the what
37:04
they do or don't do
37:06
that she would have been
37:09
allowed in in the
37:11
in the room, the
37:14
Shack, a dirt floor
37:16
Shack for the sacrifice
37:19
of Mark Hilla. She
37:20
is she innocent? Did she know that
37:22
these things were happening? Yes, of
37:25
course. And so she's as
37:28
guilty as sin
37:30
in that
37:31
sense, but she did not per
37:34
actually participate in
37:36
in
37:36
my opinion. in the
37:38
the murders and the human
37:40
sacrifice of Mark Kilroy
37:42
and others. Stefano
37:44
Hernandez,
37:44
the man who led police to
37:47
the bodies, himself
37:48
even said, Sarah wasn't involved. But she
37:50
she didn't she didn't tell us what to do.
37:52
I mean, but she was one of the
37:54
the one of the main persons
37:57
mean, but she's she was lucky. She was never in
37:59
modern feelings. Norbreto,
38:00
Sada's friend from college,
38:03
has conflicting feelings about
38:05
Sada's arrest. I really think I really think they they were trying to find
38:08
AAA scapegoat
38:10
in a sense that they
38:13
they they wanted to
38:14
find somebody to find a culprit for the mirror.
38:17
because he wasn't only what only him
38:19
to really find out a
38:22
different bodies. but they wanted to find out who actually did
38:24
that kill it. In in
38:26
fact, what bothered me a little bitty
38:28
was she was never found
38:30
guilty of
38:32
that. She was basically how do
38:34
you think of association, but within
38:36
the whole group that they got, no no one
38:38
came to be the one who did it.
38:42
or or they, you know basically, very powerful for
38:44
for people that are that they picked up,
38:46
they get torture, and, I
38:50
mean, They they'll tell you anything you wanna hear.
38:52
But III
38:53
don't think she ever said it
38:55
was me or was it was it was him
38:57
or was somebody else.
39:00
so
39:00
they could not pinpoint as who was responsible
39:02
for the murder. Norberto
39:04
Wachezada had
39:05
been charged with more
39:08
crimes, but even he
39:10
doesn't think she's a killer. I I
39:11
think she knew what what was
39:14
going on. I'm not saying she was
39:16
a within that call, she was
39:18
a eight. he did rent
39:20
because she she was very close to twelve also.
39:22
So
39:23
she knew what Hello.
39:26
what what was going
39:28
on. But
39:30
I don't think
39:31
she actually was involved in it. I don't
39:33
think she hit the guts. to
39:35
kill somebody,
39:37
archery
39:37
actually. Now
39:41
she
39:42
no she was just was just a Coop
39:44
girl
39:44
that got involved with the wrong guys. And
39:47
because
39:47
her beliefs made
39:50
it
39:50
made it worse worse, and she
39:53
fitted in with the
39:55
group. And my son-in-law
39:58
knew that she was she
39:59
was gifted.
40:00
the minute and
40:02
she she took she took a very sure for that. But
40:04
when we talked to George
40:05
Cabito, the Camden County
40:08
investigator, he
40:10
had some choice words about Sada. She was
40:12
a a
40:12
witch at night and
40:15
a student during
40:16
the day Last episode,
40:19
I told you about the
40:20
raid at Rancho Santa Linda where Santa
40:22
Fe Netuan this led investigators
40:24
to more than a dozen graves.
40:27
In the investigators uncovered the bodies, they've
40:30
been questioning every member of the
40:32
in on this game they
40:34
rounded up. but there are
40:36
two very important people. They hadn't managed to arrest you. Because we had concerns
40:39
on
40:39
missing. We had
40:41
side are missing.
40:43
So they check all
40:44
the usual spots first.
40:45
They they went to side us out. She wasn't
40:48
there. You know, they ran a search
40:50
warrant, a search warrant. They keep the door open search
40:52
warrant. It makes it went in they
40:54
went in the house and she had an
40:56
altar there, something that
40:58
he altar where she was practicing the whole
41:00
thing and everything. and the mother says we don't know
41:02
where she's at, the whole thing. So
41:05
Sada's
41:05
parents are in
41:08
absolute disbelief. Here's Letip
41:10
Fernandez, the TV reporter we talked to
41:12
in an earlier episode. I remember
41:13
interviewing her
41:16
parents and then they
41:18
lived across the river.
41:20
It was right by the
41:22
border.
41:23
Just elderly people in and
41:26
just you just knew they were very sweet people anyway.
41:28
But so we went to
41:29
interview them and they
41:32
were just I remember how
41:34
devastated they
41:36
that their
41:36
daughter had been involved in this. And and
41:38
then they just they just
41:41
couldn't believe it. Still,
41:42
do find
41:44
Sada or Constansel.
41:46
Sokavitha decides he wants to use
41:48
all the media attention the case has received
41:51
to his advantage. I
41:53
call America most won
41:56
it. And because they had
41:58
been at the at the news
42:00
conference and the one of the guys that gave me
42:02
a card, So we we got an American correspondent. When we got American
42:04
correspondent, we really they really
42:06
are good, man, about getting getting
42:10
calls since everybody. Yeah. They're in Mexico City and all this
42:12
stuff and everything. So
42:14
After America's most wanted features
42:15
the case again, a
42:18
manhunt then what ensues ensues.
42:20
Investigators get calls from all over the country,
42:22
all over the world from people
42:24
who think they've seen Constancia on
42:28
the run. Investigators will later find out that Sada and
42:30
Constancio were at a holiday inn in
42:32
Brownsville while law enforcement raided
42:34
the ranch. But for
42:36
four
42:36
weeks, they stay on Sarah and Constancell's
42:38
tales. Remember, Constancell
42:40
is well connected
42:42
and wealthy thanks to the Adnadis
42:45
drug money. So he's slippery. Over
42:48
and over again, the police get close to
42:50
catching him, then he
42:52
gets away. So govita decides,
42:54
let's go back to the ranch and see
42:56
what we can figure out there.
42:59
and he calls up a friend to join him. The first
43:02
guy
43:02
that I brought here
43:05
was doctor I he
43:07
was from from Miami,
43:10
Dade County. He he was a
43:13
he was a pathologist from
43:16
Dade County. and a professor for the University
43:18
of Miami, and
43:20
he was into center. He had part of my
43:22
own brain, all this stuff and everything.
43:25
The
43:25
Palomayo employee expert, Rafael
43:28
Martinez, starts taking items
43:30
out of the Inguanga and educating
43:32
investigators on what he thinks happened here.
43:34
is a
43:38
little superstitious, so he brings over a
43:40
brew hall.
43:42
That's essentially a witch or someone who practices suntaria to
43:44
check out the ranch too. He
43:47
does a few blessings to cleanse
43:49
the area of black spirits. And
43:52
then he turns to Gavido, and he says. And
43:54
the
43:54
Bruker said, look, the only way
43:57
we're gonna catch this guy is to
43:59
burn burn
43:59
down his
44:02
place. Now, there's an
44:03
idea, Gavito thinks. He figures
44:05
if Constancio and whoever he's on
44:07
the run with see video
44:09
on the news of their sacred place on
44:12
fire, maybe it'll agitate him
44:14
enough to
44:16
prevail himself.
44:16
Oh, sure enough. We got the Inganka. We drank
44:18
that out. We drank that out. We
44:20
pillowed the whole thing with
44:24
gasoline. He
44:26
you get a picture of of
44:30
Convencil, and you make
44:33
me sign it, and one minute to say, yeah, I'll sign
44:35
it. And we pulled it up, and we put it in these ganga
44:38
and filmed all this, and the
44:40
media was me know this and
44:42
everything, and it I mean, when
44:44
we need to say, y'all to go and and
44:46
burn
44:48
it.
44:54
We're at least six
44:54
hundred miles away in an apartment
44:57
in Mexico City. adults will
44:59
constancel watches as everything he's built, everything he's
45:02
worked so
45:04
hard for.
45:05
burns
45:08
to ash.
45:13
Next, on season three
45:15
of darkness. This guy is in
45:17
Mexico City, and he's
45:19
watching this on
45:22
TV. they were all in a in an apartment
45:24
in Mexico City hiding.
45:26
And he says there's
45:29
there's some TV and he goes,
45:31
bizarre. He goes, crazy. Exactly what the
45:34
Baruque said that this guy was gonna do.
45:36
He said,
45:38
when bizarre. So he gets one of the
45:40
machine guns, and he starts shooting out of
45:42
the room. So
45:44
the cops come and they show up and then
45:46
they see all these cop cars. So
45:49
he starts
45:53
throwing money.
46:02
This
46:02
season of darkness is reported
46:04
hosted and produced by me, Jackie Barra.
46:06
Katie Penchikalka and
46:07
Robert Quickly are the
46:10
executive producers. This podcast is
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46:14
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46:16
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46:20
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46:22
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46:24
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46:26
to Maryann Navarro for being the lead reporter
46:28
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46:30
began. The associate producers are
46:34
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46:36
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46:39
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