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Welcome in to the Wednesday edition of

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Darkness

1:01

Radio, the best in pairing

1:04

while podcasting. I'm Tim Dennis. It's supernatural

1:06

news Wednesday. That means only one thing.

1:09

We need a co host for this thing, and we're,

1:11

of course, we're gonna bring in the co host with

1:13

the most. WCB the

1:15

big cuddly bear, beer Bruiser,

1:17

bruiser. How you doing? I'm back,

1:19

baby. That's right. You're back. back

1:22

from the land of big sweaty men

1:24

and gorgeous women who love to beat on each other.

1:26

Of course, we're talking about WrestleMania, which

1:29

-- So much fun. -- so much fun. It's

1:31

exhausting at the same time. It looked like

1:33

it was fun, man. I saw the pictures. I

1:35

saw videos. I saw I

1:37

just live vicarially through

1:40

you. can't even get the words out. I'm so

1:42

excited, vicariously through you,

1:45

for the entire weekend, through just seeing

1:47

other people's pictures and and seeing videos

1:49

from from the event. It looked like a lot of fun.

1:52

It

1:52

was. And I love doing cons like that because

1:54

whether it be a wrestling con

1:56

or a comma con or a paranormal con.

1:59

It's great because you you

2:01

see all these people that normally wouldn't be

2:03

hanging out, all hanging out in one place,

2:05

and they all have a dissimilar likeness.

2:07

And I got to meet a couple listeners, which

2:09

is really cool. This is Bruiser all

2:11

put the darkness radio stuff on my table.

2:13

So we got, hopefully, some new listeners. Oh,

2:16

awesome. because they stopped buying We're

2:19

curious. Cool. And it

2:21

was just it was fun to see, man.

2:23

It was it was really good to see. Yeah.

2:25

And welcome aboard if you're listening off

2:27

that and thank you, missus

2:29

Bruiser, by the way, for for doing that.

2:31

She is the ultimate marketing whiz. So

2:33

we want She is. She is. and

2:36

and thank you. If you noticed that on Bruiser table,

2:39

you decided to give us a listen. We greatly appreciate

2:41

it. If if you hear

2:43

the show and and decide you would

2:45

like to give us a five star review either

2:47

on iTunes or Spotify or wherever

2:49

it is you're listening to the show. You

2:52

know, Bruiser, interestingly

2:56

enough, I had a brain fart

2:58

147 wanna

3:00

mention to people I I know you're a

3:02

little humble to mention this, but I wanna mention

3:04

to people that for the holidays, if you

3:06

wanna give people the gift of BCB, the

3:09

gift of big cuddly bear. Maybe you know somebody

3:11

who's got a little crush on the BCB. If you

3:13

know what I mean? Wanna give them the gift

3:16

of BCB. It's real simple. You go to

3:18

cameo folks. That's right.

3:20

Go to Camilo. Go

3:21

to Camilo. You can book me. I

3:24

will dive. Man, I'm done at all on

3:26

Camilo. I love being on Camilo. I've

3:28

I've named babies. Really?

3:31

Yeah. Yeah. I've I've given names for

3:33

babies. I've helped senators

3:35

win senate races nice.

3:37

That was that was interesting because I'm

3:39

not a political guy. don't get into politics. You

3:41

and I know we don't discuss politics on the show.

3:43

Mhmm. And so when I got a

3:45

request for a shout out to the

3:47

senator. Of course, I had to look it up because

3:49

I didn't want that. You

3:51

know, it's such a fine line. So

3:53

missus Bruce and I looked it up and I was like, oh, yeah,

3:55

we could do this. I've

3:57

done gender reveals where I've revealed

3:59

the gender of babies. you know, and and

4:02

then I just do the normal smack talking

4:04

to people want that. And it's just fun.

4:06

It's great to hear what these people want from from

4:08

cameos, and I appreciate that they want me to

4:10

to be a part of their lives. And there's

4:12

a there's a sale going on Friday. It's

4:15

a one day sale, you know, you get a bunch off

4:17

and I'll have them done within twenty four

4:19

hours. Nice. This weekend, I'm

4:21

actually meeting with Brian Maloney. So I usually throw

4:23

like, if I have somebody cool

4:26

around me, I'll throw them in the cameo

4:28

too. too. Very nice. Hello. Very

4:30

nice. So there you go. So take advantage of

4:32

the one day sale on Cameo. Yeah.

4:34

You might get a little Brian Maloney's action

4:36

in there. maybe if if he's

4:39

around and and take

4:41

advantage because the holidays are coming

4:43

up. So take advantage for birthdays,

4:45

for anniversaries, for gender, reveals

4:47

for for any -- Okay. -- anything. The

4:49

last two I've done too, a ziggy star

4:51

pups done in. So if you wanna see ziggy.

4:53

Yeah. Why? She's always been

4:55

my sidekick. But, yeah, I've had bruiser in

4:57

with me. I've had ziggy with me. People

5:00

wanted to see Bruiser and I together

5:02

with whatever they want. We'll do it. nice.

5:04

There you go. So check out beer

5:06

Bruiser on Cameo for for

5:09

whatever gift giving needs you need. So --

5:11

Yep. -- there you go. Nice and easy. Couple

5:14

other things to mention here. The other thing

5:16

I wanted to mention is our our

5:18

good friends over there at Granite City

5:20

Comics in Saint Cloud, Minnesota. have

5:23

quite the deal for you guys. If you collect

5:25

comics, if you're a Walking Dead fan, you

5:27

know, the Walking Dead wrapped up two weekends

5:29

ago on AMC.

5:32

that series is done. There's gonna be a

5:34

bunch of spin off series. You've

5:36

got of course, you've got the

5:39

Rick and Michelle series that's coming up. You've got

5:41

Dead City coming up. You have a

5:43

Reagan series too. Right? Yeah. That's the

5:45

Reagan series. Got Negan

5:47

and Maggie.

5:49

Maggie. Right? That's the others that that's that's

5:51

series. And then you have a Darryl Dixon series

5:53

that's coming out. where he's in

5:55

France. It wasn't originally supposed to

5:57

be Daryl Dixon and Carol, but

6:00

the the lady who plays Carol decided

6:02

to bow out because of location. issues

6:05

and things like that. So you've got

6:07

those three series

6:09

that are coming out. So

6:11

kinda sad if you're a comic book fan, Daryl

6:13

Dick and wasn't in the comics till the show came

6:15

out. When he became such a popular TV

6:17

character, they threw him in the comics.

6:19

That's right. So there's

6:21

a little we're we're doing a little bit of a celebration

6:24

of this this new chapter of

6:26

Walking Dead and what we're doing

6:28

and conjunction with Grant's

6:30

Granite City Comics is we're

6:32

offering a special. Now

6:35

little backstory here for your Bruiser. We'll make it

6:37

short and sweet. when The Walking

6:39

Dead number one came out, Granite

6:41

City Comics did a retailer

6:44

variant. Now for those of you who aren't familiar

6:46

with comics, There's a

6:48

variant for every number

6:50

one issue. There's a variant for special

6:52

issues where you might have fourteen

6:54

different covers or you might have

6:57

that's pretty popular these days to have

6:59

a different artist draw

7:01

the cover a variant cover for

7:03

for different issues. You can

7:05

deploy covers, and then you get the chrome

7:07

covers. That's right. Yeah. That's right.

7:09

Any type of variant cover for any

7:11

type of issue. Well, for the

7:13

Walking Dead, they offered retailer

7:16

variance. So an individual retailer

7:19

could have their own variant of that

7:21

number one issue. Credit

7:24

City Comics was offered their

7:26

own variant, number one of the

7:28

Walking Dead. Now this is an original,

7:30

number of The Walking Dead.

7:32

It's not a reprint. It's

7:34

an original number one. And

7:37

the Granite City Comics

7:39

variant. So there's

7:40

only five hundred in existence. Alright?

7:43

And it's hard to get a number one 147 debt

7:45

anywhere. It is. It's

7:48

almost impossible to find. We're

7:50

gonna give you a little bit of a deal. Are you ready for

7:52

this? Just because you are a darkness

7:54

radio listener.

7:57

And I'm not putting it online. It's

7:59

just from our lips to

8:01

your ears. And we'll put a link

8:03

in the description of the show. If

8:05

you're not sure how to get a hold

8:07

of it again and you don't get it other than the

8:09

description of the show, you can contact

8:12

me by social media or you can

8:14

contact me by

8:16

email, and I'll send you the link. But we're

8:18

gonna keep it on the hush hush because

8:20

you are a listener of the

8:22

show, we wanna get you in on the deal

8:24

first. You

8:27

go to granularitycomics dot com.

8:31

And you can get this retailer

8:34

variant near mint condition

8:36

for five dollars. Oh,

8:38

five bucks For a number one

8:41

for a number one, Walking Dead, number

8:43

one retailer variant. That's a hell of

8:45

a deal. And there's only five hundred of

8:47

them out there. I've I've

8:49

spent a lot more on number one

8:51

variants. Now here's

8:53

the deal. You get a brand new comic out

8:55

there and some comics brand you off

8:57

the shelf for going for five bucks.

8:59

Oh, god. Yeah. Yeah. In relation killed

9:01

the comics. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The

9:03

comics are expensive these days.

9:05

They are. they're not like they used to be.

9:07

So to get a comic, that's what I

9:09

what is it? Twelve years old now? Thirteen

9:11

years old? Fourteen or

9:13

fourteen, I think. For five dollars,

9:16

that's heck of a deal.

9:19

And for

9:19

people that aren't comic book trans, owning a

9:22

number one variant and you having a

9:24

number one variant in your collection brings

9:27

value to your collection. Absolutely. Absolutely.

9:29

I mean, the I I know I'm

9:31

guilty, Tim. You're probably guilty. Mhmm.

9:33

We try to get as many variant covers as

9:35

possible because you never know which one's gonna hit or

9:37

miss. That's right. That's

9:38

right. So we're gonna we're

9:41

gonna put up the link in the description

9:43

of the show to get you to

9:45

Granite City comics so you can get

9:47

that retailer variant of

9:49

The Walking Dead. Now

9:51

there's limited numbers of these.

9:53

So folks that's first come first serve when

9:55

they're out throughout. So

9:57

get it well, you can. Again,

10:00

limited number. Now they started out with

10:02

five hundred, I should mention they've

10:05

sold out well over three quarters of

10:07

these. So

10:09

there's very limited there's very limited

10:11

numbers of these. So Tim

10:13

over at Granite City Comics, and

10:15

it's not me. I'm not telling you that that

10:17

I'm the guy behind this, but Tim

10:19

is the guy that I go through over at

10:21

Grande City Comics, I had asked him.

10:23

I said, do you have any more of these? Because

10:26

he had he had had them on display in

10:28

the store, and he said, well, yeah, I got a few of

10:30

them left. And I said,

10:32

would you give my listeners a deal

10:34

if, you know, if

10:37

if I asked real nicely?

10:39

And he said, sure. So

10:41

this is for a limited time only.

10:44

Right before the holiday

10:46

season, they make great gifts for

10:48

that Walking Dead fan. that you have

10:50

in the family or maybe

10:52

yourself if you wanna treat yourself before the

10:54

holidays. So They're also good white elephant

10:56

gifts, the good season. because normally with the

10:58

secret scanner, the white elephant, you have a price.

11:00

Mhmm. You can't go Yep. I

11:02

know I've I've done comics for

11:04

those and people There's a lot of conflict,

11:06

man. And and If you're a fan of the

11:08

Walking Dead TV show, I

11:10

recommend getting this because the comic

11:12

originally is completely different than the TV

11:14

show. Yep. Yep. And

11:16

you can see a lot of stuff where the you know,

11:18

all your fan favorites are in these in the

11:20

number one, but they

11:21

don't all last to the number

11:23

one. So that's right. it's good

11:25

to have to see how much a,

11:28

the comic evolved and b, to see

11:30

how the show became its

11:32

own little phenomenon.

11:34

Oh, that's this button right here. Manon.

11:36

Manon. That's

11:38

right. So we'll put that up in the

11:40

description of the show. Go ahead and

11:42

and order some up and get him out

11:44

as gifts or keep him free yourself. Again,

11:47

supplies are limited. So go ahead and take

11:49

advantage of that. I also wanna

11:51

recognize one other thing. As we're taping

11:53

this show, it's Tuesday, I

11:56

know, magic of podcasting.

11:58

But yesterday, Christie

12:00

Alley passed away,

12:02

so we just want to send

12:04

thoughts and prayers to her family and

12:06

friends. It's

12:09

a it's a it's a blow for everyone. I think, you

12:11

know, as we get older, I'm I'd mentioned

12:13

this on social media, in our

12:15

social media, I believe it was a

12:17

listener by the name of Tamara who who had

12:19

said it seems

12:21

like some more celebrities, more

12:23

more celebrities are passing on, and it

12:26

seems like it's quickening, like it's it's

12:28

happening more and more. And I had

12:30

mentioned something to where like, you

12:32

know, I always thought

12:34

that as you got older, it

12:36

just it's just a thing where as you get older,

12:38

the people you recognize pass

12:40

away quicker and quicker. It's just a part

12:42

of aging. But then I

12:44

thought about it, and I'm thinking, no, you know what?

12:47

People are passing away younger and younger.

12:50

But she I didn't know she was

12:52

seventy one. Yes. Yeah.

12:54

I

12:54

you She

12:55

didn't look at for one. No. You know, other

12:57

than and for 2II never thought she

12:59

was at old. And that I didn't know she had a

13:01

lengthy battle of cancer. It wasn't

13:03

lengthy. It was a short battle. It was a short

13:05

battle. Yes. So it was it was a quick cancer.

13:07

Okay? Which is a horrible disease

13:09

and it's affected everyone in the world.

13:11

Yeah. So my thoughts and prayers are her

13:13

family. But she I didn't know she was

13:15

seventy one. She looked good for seventy

13:17

one. Yeah. Yeah. Indeed. You

13:19

know, that's the other thing too is I think

13:21

as we advance in

13:23

science and as we advance

13:25

in in different parts of

13:27

technology. We've also find ways

13:29

to make ourselves a

13:31

little more well preserved. Yeah. even

13:33

though we suffer with different ailments and we're passing

13:36

away, I think a little Slice

13:38

will tell you that we can we can live longer.

13:41

but I don't think we're living as long

13:43

as we can technically

13:45

live. Yeah. You know, science will tell

13:47

you, well, we the average I think the

13:49

average male now can live life expectancy

13:51

up to eighty three years, but

13:54

we're not reaching our capacity. In

13:57

fact, I think a lot of males are

13:59

dying

13:59

younger than what we can reach.

14:02

At

14:02

least males,

14:05

females are exceeding it. Well,

14:07

that's because males or idiots and

14:09

females aren't. You guys are interested in it

14:11

now. If we could go back

14:13

and tell our younger selves, Hey,

14:16

don't do that. Very true. Very

14:18

true. I think I think well, you're

14:20

right, Bruiser. I think a lot of males think that,

14:22

you know, we can we can live

14:24

forever so we do a lot of stupid stuff.

14:26

I thought I was bulletproof until

14:28

I turned thirty. Yeah. And then I hit

14:30

thirty, and I I tore my tricep And that

14:32

was

14:32

my first series injury. Completely tore

14:34

it off the bone. And

14:37

right after that, I, you know, I tore my

14:39

ACL, and then I started having an

14:41

injury upon injury. And I was like,

14:43

maybe I'm not bulletproof. You know,

14:45

maybe I'm not impervious, you know,

14:47

because when you're young, You think

14:49

you're Superman. Yeah. You

14:50

know? Yeah. And I try to

14:53

tell my kids, you know, especially my son

14:55

who's who's serve in our country and stuff as a

14:57

don't don't be stupid with your body, you

14:59

know? because you're gonna be forty years old and

15:01

you're gonna pay for it. You know? Oh,

15:03

yeah. Yeah. And especially

15:05

with the way that science has come about

15:07

where you ways

15:08

are working out and

15:11

vitamins and you

15:13

know, just a different stuff you can do to

15:16

help your

15:17

wellness. You know,

15:19

mental health is now being accepted where you can

15:21

discuss mental health, that helps. Yes.

15:23

You know, taking,

15:27

you know, diseases in consideration like

15:29

diabetes or or cancer,

15:31

you know, and how to prevent them

15:33

and all that. That's all factored in,

15:35

you know. So I try to tell

15:37

my son, you know, treat your body

15:38

like a temple. Yeah. You know? Yep. Do

15:40

what you're counting because you're you're gonna be my

15:43

agent. There are a lot

15:45

of conditions today that

15:47

would have killed would

15:50

have killed us fifty to

15:52

sixty years ago that we're

15:54

living through and dealing with and

15:56

and getting a life expect seventy of twenty

15:58

to thirty years through. People

16:00

are living through numerous

16:03

bouts of cancer. They're living through heart

16:05

disease. They're living through, as you mentioned,

16:07

diabetes. They're living through

16:09

a lot of these

16:11

different chronic conditions that

16:14

are

16:15

they would have been killers. Yeah.

16:18

You know, fifty to sixty years ago, which

16:22

is a modern miracle of

16:24

science. And it's a modern miracle

16:26

of a lot of different

16:28

consortium of brains that got together and said, you

16:30

know what? I you know, we can we can advance.

16:32

We can get better. We can get stronger.

16:34

And, you know,

16:36

thank God for it. That's that's one

16:38

of the things that we can do is we as

16:40

we really study the

16:42

the human body and realize that

16:45

there's more potential

16:47

to it. You know? There's there's an

16:49

interesting I'm trying to remember the book that

16:51

I read, I think it was this

16:53

past winter or spring that

16:56

was talking about, well, you know, when

16:58

you look a Bible and they say somebody lived four hundred or five

17:00

hundred years, how it was really the way they

17:02

measured time time, that maybe

17:04

it wasn't four hundred or five hundred years

17:06

as we measured it, maybe was

17:08

more like a hundred to a hundred fifty years.

17:11

Mhmm. And how did they accomplish it

17:13

or how did it get to that

17:15

point? Maybe

17:18

it was. Maybe it wasn't.

17:20

And why are we not living to

17:22

that potential now? Maybe there's so

17:24

much more stress on us. maybe

17:26

there's so much more expectation upon us. Maybe it's

17:28

what we're putting in our engines. You

17:31

know, maybe it's the food we're putting in

17:33

our engines. the

17:36

it's it's hard to tell, but, you

17:38

know, how do you unlock that potential to get

17:40

back to that place if that's what

17:42

we're, you know, if that's what it is. a

17:44

good question. How do we get

17:46

back to that place of being

17:48

able to live to our full potential?

17:51

again is a is a good challenge,

17:53

I guess. Yeah. And

17:54

we gotta take that challenge on, you know.

17:56

You gotta think back then, bible

17:59

days late. They didn't have a

18:01

fast food, you know,

18:03

chain on every corner. You couldn't you know, if you had

18:05

to eat, you had to go find food

18:07

and you had to hunt it and you

18:09

had to not saying that we should do that now because with

18:11

technology and stuff, like, obviously, our lives

18:13

are better, but, like, we have to start thinking about

18:15

what we are putting in our bodies. Mhmm.

18:18

you know, and and what we are

18:20

doing to stay active. Yeah.

18:23

Sure. Sure. Learn

18:25

from our ancestors but also

18:27

in both the positive and negative way. You

18:30

know? Right. because, obviously,

18:33

they they took more risks

18:35

because they had to hunt and it was either the

18:37

the lion kill them or they kill the lion type thing.

18:39

So, obviously, we don't want people going out

18:42

hunting lions. You know what I mean? True. True. True.

18:44

True. But, you know,

18:46

put down your phone, get

18:48

off your butt and go for a walk.

18:50

you know. Mhmm.

18:51

Instead of going to

18:53

McDonald's, you know, go

18:55

find that farmer and and buy a

18:57

cow from him or some meat

18:59

Yeah. You know, some farm fresh

19:02

eggs. Yep. Those little things we can

19:04

do. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, let's

19:06

jump in to today's show some

19:08

interesting stories today. Bruiser

19:11

of course, walk down that

19:14

UFO aisle as we always do.

19:16

We'll we'll Take a

19:18

boy, AI has really popped its set up

19:20

this week. Wow. Yeah. Has it

19:22

ever? There are some stories out there that will

19:24

absolutely terrify you this week.

19:27

We'll talk a little bit about, you

19:29

know, we're gonna end the show today on a

19:31

positive note of some sort.

19:33

We're gonna talk about psychic animals

19:36

picking sporting events. As

19:39

as the World Cup is in full

19:41

swing, we'll talk about how accurate

19:43

these psychic animals are with fifa picks.

19:45

That's what we're gonna talk about. I'm excited to

19:47

see what these psychic animals can

19:50

predict. I always love these stories that when we get into

19:52

major sporting events about psychic

19:54

animals and how accurate they can actually be. But

19:57

Well, So that's how we'll end today's show.

19:59

But first, let's talk about the Portland

20:01

Cryptozoology Museum. It's nearing

20:03

its move to Bangor, Maine.

20:05

The museum director points

20:09

to rising rents and limitations of

20:11

being near other growing businesses in

20:13

Portland for the move north. I

20:15

bet you didn't know that that was a problem with the crypten museum.

20:18

I didn't. I didn't know

20:20

there was a crypten museum. I would have visited. I'm

20:22

learning something new every day, my friend.

20:25

cryptos urology is the study, of course,

20:27

of hidden or unknown animals,

20:30

believe it or not, main is the

20:32

home to A rare collection

20:34

dedicated to this field of study. For almost

20:36

twenty years, Portland's international cryptos

20:38

urology museum has been one of the

20:40

few places where you can meet bigfoot

20:42

sea serpents and mothman under one

20:45

roof. In general, people come to the

20:47

museum because they're interested in

20:49

two things. ministries in animals,

20:51

Lauren Coleman, who's the director of the

20:53

International Cryptozoology Museum, told

20:55

News Center, Maine, mysteries

20:57

in animals are something Coleman's Museum

21:00

has plenty of lots of bigfoot

21:02

because people love bigfoot.

21:04

YETI's and as well as sea

21:06

serpents, lake monsters, Coleman

21:08

explained. We have sixty five years

21:11

of different cryptids from all over the

21:13

country. Recently, Coleman announced

21:15

that he would be moving his entire

21:17

operation to Bangor after

21:19

pointing to rising rents and

21:21

limitations of nearby growing businesses in

21:24

Portland. A lot of people

21:26

probably think I'm crazy, you went on to

21:28

say, hey, Well, the museum may speak for

21:30

itself there, Lauren. I'm not sure. But

21:32

but we really think

21:34

we'll be unique where

21:37

wherever wherever we moved

21:40

to Coleman said words as hard this time of day,

21:42

Blizzard. Earlier this year,

21:44

Coleman opened a bookstore and museum

21:47

in Bangor He said it

21:49

is a separate operation from

21:51

the new museum. He plans to open in the

21:53

area. If we get the

21:55

building we're trying to get which is

21:57

a streamlined modern, it

21:59

will get architecturally into

22:01

a whole other level of acceleration

22:04

he explained. I'm talking to some

22:06

secret sources about renovating it.

22:08

Whole plate's not big foot -- Yeah.

22:10

-- getting some grants and that could be

22:12

a lot of fun. He expects to

22:15

open he expects to open new new

22:17

museum in twenty twenty three or

22:19

early twenty twenty four. Coleman

22:21

added he plans to close his

22:23

museum in Portland sometime at the end of twenty twenty five or

22:25

early twenty twenty six,

22:27

which is when his lease

22:29

ends there. you

22:32

pointed out yourself, Bruiser, you

22:34

were unaware of that museum. I

22:36

know unless you're really

22:38

into cryptids or or you really have an

22:40

awareness of what it is that Lauren Coleman's

22:42

doing. A lot of people aren't

22:44

familiar. Yeah. That that's I am

22:46

really in encrypted. Like, I know about the

22:48

mothman museum. I know about the Bigfoot

22:50

museum. Mhmm. I know about

22:52

the Alien Museum. you

22:55

know, and those are all in different

22:57

states. Like, if I would have known there's a kriptan

22:59

museum, well, hell, I would have there's a I wrestled in

23:01

Maine. I would have loved going there. So

23:03

now let's see what he's got. Now that you know,

23:05

is it something you'll you'll check out if you're

23:07

out that way?

23:08

Oh, for sure. Definitely. Yeah.

23:11

Yeah. Definitely, it's on my list. I love

23:13

I mean, one, I love museums. I think museums are

23:15

fantastic. I love history. Mhmm. And then you

23:17

add in the cryptids. you

23:19

know, throw a little big foot in there, throw a little lackness, some

23:21

whale dick. I'm all in. Some

23:24

whale dick. Yeah.

23:27

I mean, that's that's no way to

23:29

talk about Nessie. Every

23:34

time I see they find a new sea

23:36

monster. Right away, I go back to that means.

23:40

Wanna

23:40

remind people

23:43

not about Wildic. But I wanna remind people, tomorrow's

23:45

show, we're we're doing a tribute show to

23:47

Linda Godfrey, who is the was

23:50

the lady who was the

23:53

originator of the articles about the Beast of Bray

23:55

Road and eventually the Book on Beast of Bray

23:57

Road. We're doing a

23:59

tribute show to Linda tomorrow our guest is Jay

24:01

Butochen. She's or he's also going to

24:03

bring on Lee

24:05

Hampple and Sanjay Single.

24:08

all three of them, of course,

24:10

sat under the learning tree of Linda,

24:12

and Linda was a mentor to all three

24:14

of them. So we'll be we'll

24:16

be talking about that. We'll also be talking about

24:19

j's two movies, which are on Amazon Prime

24:21

right now, finding j and finding j

24:23

two. So that'll be on tomorrow's

24:25

show. We'll we'll

24:32

Well, the Vista railroad is not a whale deck. No.

24:34

No. I guarantee that. I think it's

24:36

a little more fierce than whale deck. Although, I've never

24:38

been a lot around a lot of whale deck to tell

24:40

you whether whale deck or the Beast of

24:42

Bray Road is more ferocious. One of

24:44

the I've been on Bray Road many,

24:47

many, many times, and and I

24:49

have now seen a whale dig there. good. Thank you. But then

24:51

again, I haven't seen the Beast of Bray Road either.

24:53

Okay. So it really matter. Yeah.

24:55

All times a year, all different times

24:57

a day and night.

24:59

Anytime I do a road trip

25:01

up by your neck of the woods, I'd always make

25:03

sure I take a detour in the prayer

25:05

room. Well,

25:06

it's good.

25:07

I I

25:10

hope to god you don't have any encounters with the

25:12

whale dICK anytime soon. I

25:14

I'm curious now. I wanna see if it

25:16

looks like a sea monster.

25:18

I'm sure

25:21

there's there's others who wants to go out and cruise out. say,

25:23

hey. Yeah. Let's do this And then when

25:25

I'm looking over what are you looking for? Oh, you know, I

25:27

was trying to get some well done. Do you wanna see

25:29

it in person? watching any of the

25:31

national geographic stuff on Disney plus Oh, no.

25:33

I gotta start it up up close in

25:36

personal. Even if you see

25:38

it, like, in in eighty

25:40

p or or four k

25:42

on a HDR on on on

25:44

your Apple TV or whatever you do.

25:47

That's not good enough. You've got it right. Because then I can mistake

25:49

it for Sea Monster. If I see it with

25:51

my own two eyes and I know what a whale

25:53

dig looks like, When I visit

25:56

Loch Ness or or

25:58

what's the one up in New York

25:59

there, and I see the Sea

26:02

Monster, Uh-huh. You

26:03

know, if I've seen a whale dick with my

26:05

own two eyes and I see the whale monster and go,

26:07

well, that doesn't look like whale penis. So

26:11

I can rule How are you going to well

26:14

Dick theory.

26:16

Can I invite you over to watch the eight k TV

26:18

and maybe you get a little bit sharper

26:20

image so you know if you're able to see it live

26:22

and in color first. Okay.

26:26

you know, for me to see it

26:28

in AKI think I'm I think I'm okay.

26:30

You know? I got the Samsung a

26:32

k TV. Yeah. because I declined

26:34

going to an aquarium and

26:37

seeing it. But there's not, you

26:39

know, there's not a lot of whales in aquarium. It

26:41

it kinda feels a little peep show

26:43

ish, you know. Like, maybe you should drop

26:45

quarters into a box and the

26:47

the little thing slides open and then there's the

26:49

whale with the dick. Maybe I can pull

26:51

some of my a quasi celebrity and they let me feed

26:53

the whales and and so then I'm, you know oh,

26:56

there you go. I'm tempting them.

26:58

You know what I mean? Oh, look

27:00

at you. because because how do

27:02

we does do we know there's

27:04

a blue whale? Does his

27:06

dick look different than a

27:08

sperm whale? This firm whales

27:10

did look different than a killer whale. You

27:12

know what I mean? So, like, as an aquarium,

27:14

I can ask these in that be creepy. So

27:16

now it's a whale dig measuring contest.

27:18

Well, if you

27:21

look at a picture of Nessie, it looks

27:23

completely different than, like I said, the one in

27:25

New York. Yeah. You know?

27:27

Yeah. So Yeah.

27:29

How do we know one's not a humpback well? And

27:31

one's not a blue Should

27:33

you ever notice half of these whales have kind of

27:35

suggestive names anyways? Oh,

27:37

yeah. This farm well. Come

27:40

back well.

27:41

Yeah. That's true.

27:43

But you heard why the ocean is

27:45

faulty. Right? Why

27:48

is that?

27:50

because a whale to get another whale

27:53

pregnant just to release the sperm and the sea and

27:55

the whales get this 147 through it.

27:57

you imagine

27:58

getting a face full of whale if you're just

28:00

an average fish swimming

28:02

by? Like,

28:03

oh, come, man. I'm just swimming

28:06

here. whale

28:06

cocky right there. Right in the

28:08

foot. You're, like, a national

28:11

geographic cameraman. Is that, like --

28:13

Oh. -- is that technically the

28:15

quote unquote, money shot for you? That

28:17

at all. I see what you did

28:19

there.

28:21

you get

28:25

pulled up out of the ocean, you're just

28:27

dripping and nothing. That's sea salt

28:29

and sperm

28:31

from a

28:31

whale. sperm

28:32

whale. sperm whale.

28:35

Yeah. Anyways, let's

28:37

get off this subject. I know the whale

28:40

Let's move

28:42

on. The classified CIA document

28:44

show that they saw an alien

28:47

actually an ancient civilization

28:50

on Mars. ah

28:54

Even though there has never been

28:56

a manned mission to Mars back in nineteen eighty

28:58

four, the CIA found a different way

29:00

to explore the Red Planet.

29:03

According to documents declassified, thanks to the Freedom

29:05

of Information Acts, the CIA

29:08

or the Central Intelligence Agency

29:10

for you and I who don't understand

29:12

what those little letters mean,

29:14

used a remote viewer

29:16

to see what was on Mars one

29:18

million years ago, and what they discovered

29:22

is mind blowing. If you can believe

29:24

it, I'll try to believe it.

29:26

Back in nineteen eighty four, the CIA used

29:28

a psychic known as a remote viewer.

29:30

Now, we need to We need to cleave this aside because this

29:32

was written by a layman.

29:34

Remote viewers and psychics are not the

29:36

same thing. Okay.

29:38

a

29:38

remote viewer is not necessarily

29:41

psychic, and psychics are not necessarily

29:43

remote viewers.

29:44

okay Okay.

29:45

You can be a remote viewer without being

29:48

psychic. that's the astro plan.

29:50

Right? When a remote viewer is? No. No.

29:52

No. According to the remote

29:54

viewer program, you don't

29:56

have to have a psychic bone in your body to

29:58

remote view.

29:59

Really? Okay.

29:59

Yeah. They train you to do

30:02

it. Oh, okay. So anyone can

30:04

do it. A psychic is a different

30:06

gift. Right. That's --

30:08

Right. -- either natural or Yep.

30:10

Supernatural if you want to go there.

30:13

Technically, this this article

30:15

was inaccurate. They're

30:19

lumping them all together. That's right.

30:21

we'll just ignore that one line there. They said to focus their

30:23

mind on a location at a time

30:25

and describe what they saw. The transcript of

30:27

what the person witnessed on Mars a

30:29

million years back was part of a

30:31

large document dump. While the

30:34

papers don't explain why the CIA

30:36

wanted to see what Mars looked like a

30:38

million years ago, they do show what psychic

30:40

this they again, the

30:43

remote viewer saw

30:45

civil in civilization. the

30:47

remote viewer whose name is Redacted said

30:50

I kind of gotten a bleak view of

30:53

a pyramid or

30:55

pyramid form It's very

30:57

high. It's kind of sitting in a

30:59

large depressed area. I'm

31:01

tracking severe severe clouds

31:03

more like dust storms. I'm

31:06

looking at an after effect of a

31:08

major geologic problem.

31:10

I just keep seeing very large

31:12

people. they appear thin and tall, but

31:14

they're very large wearing some

31:16

kind of clothes. Well, thank god

31:18

they're wearing clothes. Yeah. Yeah. It could

31:20

have gotten creepy really quick. It could

31:23

have. Here she then described structures that

31:25

they were seeing. Here's their

31:27

quote, deep inside of a cavern, not

31:29

of a cavern, more like a canyon. I'm looking

31:31

up the sides of a steep wall that seemed to

31:33

go on forever. And here and

31:36

there's like a structure. It's

31:38

like the wall of a canyon

31:40

has been carved. Again, I'm getting

31:42

a very large structure or

31:45

structures. Huge sections of

31:47

smooth stone It's like a rabbit

31:49

warn rabbit

31:52

warn. It's like rabbit like bunny rabbit

31:54

and warn like Warren

31:57

Moon. It's it's

31:59

a weird I don't know what a road map. Weird

32:01

description. Yeah. Corners

32:03

of rooms, they're really huge.

32:06

Perception is that the ceiling is

32:08

very high, walls very

32:10

wide. They

32:12

appears to be the very end of a very

32:14

large road, and there's a

32:16

marker thing that's very large.

32:19

Keep getting Washington Monument

32:21

overlay. It's like

32:23

an obelisk sea pyramids.

32:25

They're very huge. It's filtered

32:27

from storms or something. They're

32:30

like shelters from storms,

32:32

different chambers, but

32:34

they're almost stripped of any kind of

32:36

furnishings or anything. it's

32:38

like a strictly functional

32:40

place for sleeping or that's not a good

32:42

word. Hybrid nations, some

32:44

form of I can't I

32:46

get real raw inputs, storms,

32:49

savage storms, and sleeping

32:51

through storms. They're ancient they're

32:53

dying. It's past their time or age.

32:55

They're very philosophic about

32:57

it. They're just looking for a way to survive

32:59

and they can't. they

33:03

are evidently was

33:05

a a group or party of them that

33:07

went to find new

33:09

place to live. It's like

33:11

I'm getting all kinds of

33:13

overwhelming input of the corruption of

33:15

their environment. It's failing very

33:17

rapidly, and this group went somewhere, like

33:19

a long way to find another

33:21

place to live. And that's the quote

33:23

from the remote viewer. Perhaps

33:26

this means that the ancient people somehow

33:28

made their way to Earth. That's what this

33:30

article says. The strangest part of

33:32

it all when the psychic was told what to think

33:34

about and when they

33:36

weren't directly instructed to envision

33:38

Mars one million years Instead,

33:40

they were given a sealed envelope that

33:42

held a card that read the planet Mars, time of

33:45

interest approximately one million

33:47

years, BC. Even though they

33:49

had no idea what the card said,

33:51

This is what the remote viewer saw

33:54

after just holding that sealed

33:56

envelope. So there

33:58

you go. That's very interesting.

33:59

Yeah. Most

34:00

definitely. And I just learned that

34:03

a remote viewer is different than a psychic. I didn't

34:05

know that. You didn't know that? No.

34:07

I put them hand in hand. No. It it's

34:09

when you when you

34:12

see the movie remember the movie

34:14

about the Fainting goats George

34:18

Colonial wasn't it?

34:20

Oh, yeah. Manisteric coat. Manisteric

34:22

coat? Yeah. Manisteric coat. Yeah. That's that's

34:24

them training the remote viewers, isn't it? Right. Right. We

34:28

interviewed quite a while back quite a

34:30

few years back. We interviewed the people

34:32

who are involved in that

34:34

project and the author of that

34:36

book. And

34:39

the the

34:40

the idea is that any layman can

34:42

train to remote view. In fact, you and I

34:45

can go into a class tomorrow and learn

34:47

how to remote view. Okay.

34:49

We don't have to have a psychic bone in our body.

34:51

We can resist in any

34:54

way psychic training. You don't have

34:56

to be psychic. to be a remote

34:58

viewer. Having a

35:00

psychic

35:01

gift is different

35:04

than being able to

35:06

remote view. Okay. And that's why I've

35:08

always been explained it. In fact, I've gosh, I probably myself

35:12

interviewed three

35:13

or four different people on the subject that have

35:15

been involved in the remote viewing

35:18

program,

35:18

either directly or

35:20

indirectly with the CIA.

35:23

Okay.

35:23

And they've also done the same thing.

35:25

You don't have to be psychic to do

35:27

remote viewing. Okay.

35:28

Yeah. They can be they can

35:31

be trained. Yes. She can be trained. Yep.

35:33

Absolutely. It's a hundred percent with psychic abilities are

35:36

natural. And you can be trained in

35:38

psychic abilities, but you have to

35:40

have something within

35:42

you. Yeah. The way I've

35:43

the way the way it's always been conveyed

35:46

to me is remote viewing is

35:48

instinctual. Okay.

35:50

that Whereas

35:51

a psychic ability is more

35:53

of a gift. Right.

35:56

So

35:56

right

35:57

though you know,

35:59

how

36:01

it's almost like like a remote

36:04

viewing is like

36:06

your GPS. Okay.

36:06

Yeah. It's it's very much like

36:07

that. It it's just an extension of

36:09

your navigation system. Okay.

36:12

Yeah. So it's

36:14

it's almost in ingrained in bread in

36:16

you, and

36:17

that's just how it is, and

36:19

and all they're doing is bringing that

36:21

out of you. Okay. Yeah.

36:24

So it's an interesting interesting deal and and

36:26

maybe we'll we'll try to get another

36:28

expert in remote viewing back on

36:30

the show because it's been well since we've done a

36:33

remote viewing show. Yeah. But,

36:36

yeah, it it it's

36:38

a very interesting topic because It

36:41

has been debated that that there isn't of psychic presence in remote

36:43

viewing. But once you hear it

36:45

directly from somebody

36:48

who has engaged in remote viewing. They'll

36:50

tell you that there's no there's no

36:52

psychic sense to whatsoever. I

36:56

interesting. I'd be curious to hear -- Yeah. -- more on that. Yeah.

36:58

Hi. I've got research to do. Thank

37:00

you, Tim. You're very welcome. Speaking

37:03

of the CIA, I know you've

37:06

probably heard of former

37:08

CIA agent

37:10

Cooper or paper as they call them

37:12

area fifty one deathbed confession. This came out quite a few years ago.

37:14

Mhmm. But that tape is

37:16

now resurfacing on YouTube. Really?

37:20

Okay. Yeah. In fact, I may

37:22

put up the link to this this

37:24

video because it's twenty

37:26

one minutes long. It's long

37:28

too long for us to play here on

37:30

the show. But a twenty thirteen interview with a

37:32

former CIA agent who claimed to have had

37:35

intimate knowledge of area fifty one

37:38

has been doing the rounds this week. At the time, the seventy seven year

37:40

old who went by the name aging Cooper

37:44

spelled KEWPER

37:47

or Kupur or simply

37:49

the anonymous had agreed to an interview

37:51

with UFO researcher Richard Dolan and

37:54

documentary maker

37:56

Jeremy Corbel in what

37:58

was described as a deathbed

38:00

confession of what he knew about what was going on at

38:02

area fifty one. He had previously

38:04

given an interview with journalist, Linda

38:06

Bolton, how in nine nineteen ninety

38:08

eight, who recorded eleven hours of

38:10

audio tapes. But afterwards, he was

38:12

warned by the CIA not to divulge

38:14

anything else. He only

38:16

agreed to the twenty thirteen

38:18

interview because he was dying and felt he had

38:20

nothing left to lose. During the

38:22

session, he claimed that

38:24

the extraterrestrial visitors were real that the base was housing a

38:26

number of alien vehicles and

38:28

that he had once been taken

38:30

there by once

38:32

been taken there himself to examine a number of

38:34

artifacts, including the Sasha that crashed

38:37

in Roswell, New Mexico. He even went

38:39

so far as to say that

38:41

there were Live aliens being kept at

38:43

the base's s four

38:46

facility. It took us thirteen or

38:48

fifteen miles south to

38:50

s four and like different

38:52

garage door openings. And

38:54

in these garage door openings, they had

38:56

like different saucer crafts, he

38:58

went on to say, The very first one

39:00

had the Roswell craft and it

39:02

was kind of crashed up, but apparently

39:04

every alien that was in it

39:06

died except for a couple The

39:08

Roswell Craft was really strange because it

39:10

looked like really heavy aluminum

39:12

foil. We could walk next to it and

39:14

the whole thing probably weighed hundred fifty

39:16

to three hundred pounds. Oh,

39:18

wow. Real lightweight. Yeah.

39:20

At s four, we viewed the

39:22

autopsy film, and then the colonel

39:25

said that what we've got in here

39:28

is we're interviewing a gray

39:30

alien. Interesting.

39:32

We had no idea what we're going to

39:35

he said, we had no idea we were

39:37

going to see the real thing. All

39:39

we saw was the film. It

39:41

didn't look human as far as the skin tone and basically

39:43

the shape of it. and the size how its head

39:45

size compared with a normal human. Again,

39:48

I'll put up the link for the video

39:50

so you can watch agent Cooper yourself.

39:54

and see the twenty one minutes of additional 147

39:57

bed confession film. He's not on his

39:59

deaf bed. Obviously, he's in

40:01

a recliner, but he

40:04

felt he was near his end, so he

40:06

had just a little bit more to

40:08

say. And and it'd be

40:09

interesting to see

40:11

all that because a lot of his stories, I'm

40:13

assuming will line up with the other stories that have

40:15

come out about area

40:18

fifty one from from

40:20

different people. that either

40:22

worked as, like, reverse

40:24

engineers. because all that's what the thing was,

40:25

what the was the SR four. I think you said

40:27

that's where they reverse engineer, all the

40:30

alien technology. Supposedly. Yeah.

40:32

Supposedly. Yeah. Supposedly. Yeah.

40:34

Allegory. Yeah. It's a better word to

40:36

use. Yep. because we've heard that from

40:39

numerous sources. Yep. Yep. Robbie

40:42

Williams, back in the news, I don't

40:44

think he's really had a

40:46

hit anywhere your England or or

40:48

American quite some time, but

40:50

says he's considered

40:52

a career as a UFO hunter at

40:54

one time after seeing one himself.

40:56

That's right. Robbie Williams career

40:58

path almost took a strange turn, and

41:01

he almost didn't bless us with his

41:03

music. I say that retirement cheek.

41:05

I can't name one

41:07

Robbie Williams song. No?

41:09

No. I'm trying

41:11

really hard to remember. one

41:13

hit over here in America. He had a

41:15

bunch in English. See, I I can at

41:17

least count along a blink one eighty two. I can

41:19

at least name blink one eighty two songs. Yeah.

41:22

That's true. Yeah. know, and he's a huge,

41:24

you know, full person. So True.

41:26

Very true. But, yeah, it's hard to heard

41:28

a name one 147 Robbie Williams

41:30

on. The pop star who rose to fame as

41:32

part of the boy band, take that. You

41:34

remember that one? Nope.

41:36

No. Okay. Has

41:38

long held the keen interest in

41:40

UFO's and the unexplained, he was

41:42

speaking on the Sean Atwood

41:44

podcast recently. Williams whose

41:46

interest in the UFO phenomenal.

41:48

He needs a little introduction, it

41:50

says here. He he may be two American fans,

41:52

he he would. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

41:55

confessed that he

41:58

had even considered giving up his career

42:00

as a successful solo artist. I think

42:02

that was be pretty much

42:04

an easy decision

42:06

to make. Yeah. That's in quotes. Right?

42:09

Successful. No. It it just they threw

42:11

it out there to see if we wouldn't chuckle.

42:14

to pursue his passion for all things

42:16

unexplained. The only thing that stopped him

42:18

was what he believed

42:20

to be the inevitable embarrassing

42:22

and degrading reaction of the

42:24

press if he should have come out

42:26

as a tin foil hat sort

42:30

of person Hey.

42:31

It worked really well for Tom, the

42:33

Long and Boinkwitty too. Because he's the

42:35

one if you think about he's the one

42:37

that got the navy to share all

42:40

those videos, Yeah. And he was You know what I mean? Like, when his

42:42

music was still six like, blink k eighty when he

42:44

they're on tour right now. You know? Like --

42:48

Yeah. You

42:48

had to say they were a pretty successful band. My you know, even

42:50

with all of his U. S. O'TALK. But Tom

42:52

DeLong also formed a successful organization

42:56

that that get help makes a

42:58

movement in the UFO

43:00

community. Robbie Williams, just

43:02

watching around talking about Robbie Williams.

43:04

He's the only one talking about crappy Exactly. Yeah.

43:06

It's not like his Publicist even

43:08

talks about him. His Publicist is

43:11

like, yeah. Yeah. He he He's

43:13

my client. Who? Who? Who? Robbie

43:16

Williams? Yeah. The UFO guy.

43:18

Right? You mean you mean Robin

43:22

Williams? No. No. No. No. Robbie Mhmm.

43:25

Robin Williams.

43:26

No. No. No. Robbie Williams.

43:30

Even so, this hasn't stopped him from

43:32

pursuing the topic as a hobby over the

43:34

last two decades. You could tell

43:36

he's been real busy. Yep.

43:38

Yep. Much of his interest in

43:40

UFO stems from personal experience that

43:42

occurred seventeen years ago, and he's still

43:45

talking about it. My first guy just won't get

43:47

over it. That's right.

43:51

My first proper experience,

43:53

he says, goes back to the Beverly Hills

43:56

hotel. He recalled, there might have

43:58

been some white

43:59

powder involved. I'm with a

44:01

young lady, he said. It was over seventeen years

44:04

ago. So he was with a young lady, but the

44:06

UFO was the only thing he could pay

44:08

attention to. Because I've

44:11

been with my wife for

44:13

seventeen years, he said. And we

44:15

were on two hotel loungers

44:17

in my room in the garden looking up at the stars

44:19

and all of a sudden silently over our

44:22

heads, what I can only describe is

44:24

a square object, I would

44:26

say, probably the size of one

44:28

and a half penalty

44:30

boxes. That's how we measure things in

44:32

penalty boxes.

44:33

Yeah. Like, okay. what kind

44:35

of penalty boxes? Are we talking hockey?

44:38

Are we talking soccer? Probably soccer.

44:40

Yeah. I don't know

44:41

how big those are. you. No.

44:43

I have no clue. He said it was matte black

44:45

with our texting underneath and

44:48

then Hacienda style

44:50

yellow and black

44:52

stripes. Boy, this guy is

44:54

colorful when it comes to

44:56

descriptions. Yeah.

44:56

He he forgot to mention

44:59

the acid he dropped. Yeah. Yeah. For

45:01

the shrooms that they'd eaten. Yep. He says, as if

45:03

it was this workman's thing,

45:05

it it it kicked. a

45:08

workman's what? Yeah. Yeah. Let me let me read it all together

45:10

so you can get the full picture. Oh, it's like,

45:12

hey, we got a decent construction on the

45:15

Beverly Hills hotel. Right. Did

45:17

you put the cones out? Okay. Good. Yeah. He was probably so

45:19

high. He didn't realize it was workman. Let me

45:22

read it again. He said it was

45:24

Matt Black with our texting underneath and then Hacienda

45:26

style yellow with black stripes as

45:28

if it was this

45:30

workman's thing. Okay?

45:32

It came in silently. I could have hit it

45:34

with a tennis ball, and then it floated

45:37

off. I was totally and

45:40

utterly sober. sure you were,

45:42

Robbie. Sure. I were.

45:44

Surprisingly, Williams doesn't necessarily believe

45:46

that UFOs are alien and

45:49

origin instead of I'll see here. He took

45:51

my deal. Instead favoring a government

45:54

black projects explanation for the

45:58

Monomona. Matpat. Robbie.

46:00

Robbie. Robbie. The alien

46:02

one. Hey. Look. Robbie Williams.

46:04

The alien one. Hello. Why

46:07

does he think

46:08

we're yellow and black in our texting?

46:10

Why

46:10

is he

46:11

hitting us for work order? We're not here to

46:14

work. I ain't up

46:16

that hammer. Do

46:17

your own

46:20

renovations, Robbie Williams? Yeah. I

46:22

suppose it's time to take that break. Alright.

46:24

III need to

46:26

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46:29

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46:31

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57:14

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a story here. It says, hello,

57:16

Tim, BCB, and crew. been trying to figure

57:18

out where to start my with my story, so I'll start with

57:21

one from my life in the funeral

57:24

business. I left this job about a

57:26

year after seventeen

57:28

and a half years, holy cow. It's a long time. That's

57:30

a long time. Yeah. I

57:32

mainly cut headstones around three hundred

57:34

and twenty five plus stones in a

57:37

year in a haunted shop nonetheless.

57:40

But I also took funerals

57:42

as well. I was literally the

57:44

last person to see you in this mortal world

57:47

Boy, that's not creepy. Right? I'm

57:50

gonna say that's nightmare fuel right there.

57:52

Yeah. And trust me after I got

57:54

done sealing

57:56

the in those concrete vaults, no zombies are getting

57:58

out, L0L So bets on

58:00

AI. Thank

58:02

you for that, Brian. I appreciate that.

58:05

Thank you for sealing that one

58:07

once and for all. One of my

58:09

best ghost stories happened in

58:11

Falls City, Nebraska. My wife came to me to keep

58:13

me company out of cold Saturday afternoon funeral. I

58:16

just finished the funeral set or

58:18

set up

58:20

rather. and parked the Vault truck down the hill by

58:22

the Sexton's garage. I left

58:24

the truck and went to change into my

58:26

good clothes in the garage My

58:29

wife was watching the setup. She was

58:31

my eyes to let me know how

58:34

or to let me know to hurry if cars

58:36

would start to show up. hill

58:38

at the setup, her eyes got fixed on

58:40

a man at the tent. A man

58:42

in a gray suit walking around

58:44

it, checking the straps, adjusting

58:47

chairs. And then after a bit, he went behind the shade wall

58:49

of the tent, and she lost sight

58:51

of him. She assumed it was me

58:53

back at the tent. My

58:56

uniform for funerals was a nice gray jacket

58:58

and slacks when we would

59:00

help guide the casket onto the stands in

59:03

front of the family. So needless to say when

59:05

I got back in the truck, she turned a bit pale. I

59:07

looked at her and asked, what's wrong

59:09

with you? She said, I

59:12

thought I saw you at the tent. She stuttered.

59:14

Nope. She's finished changing. Why?

59:16

She then told me about

59:19

what she thought. I said, we are the only people here.

59:21

If not, the sexton would have called

59:24

me since he was

59:26

sitting by the highway waiting for the funeral.

59:29

So I went up there and found no one there.

59:32

About fifteen minutes later, the funeral

59:34

arrived. I set the casket

59:36

on the stands above the Vault went

59:38

back to the truck and proceeded to tell my wife

59:40

she must have saw a ghost.

59:42

A full non believer she wouldn't

59:44

accept that. Still thought it was a random person in the

59:46

cemetery. I didn't have the heart to let her know,

59:48

but no one at the funeral was wearing a

59:50

gray suit except the man in

59:52

the casket. Oh.

59:56

Yeah. He says Ryan

59:58

says I knew this because I had to

1:00:00

help the director

1:00:02

reopen the casket for one last

1:00:04

viewing. Well, I

1:00:08

hate to keep you hanging, but I'll write

1:00:10

in soon with Moore. Stay

1:00:12

safe guys, and thanks for the great shows. And

1:00:14

BCB, when you're close to

1:00:16

the North Central Kansas area,

1:00:18

again, my daughter, a big fan of

1:00:20

the show, and I will come out

1:00:22

to watch. Ironically, my favorite wrestler was the undertaker growing up, go figure.

1:00:28

You're dedicated listener in Kansas, Ryan.

1:00:30

Thank you, Ryan. Oh, Ryan, to to give

1:00:32

you a little undertaker

1:00:34

knowledge,

1:00:34

Paul Baire was at actually

1:00:37

a certified mortician. There you go. There you go.

1:00:38

That's a great story. Yeah. That is

1:00:40

he's got to have

1:00:43

tons of stories working

1:00:45

in that field for as long as he

1:00:48

did. Yeah. Most definitely. Most

1:00:50

definitely. I've always

1:00:52

wanted to talk to somebody like a

1:00:54

funeral director or a

1:00:56

an embalmer or she

1:00:59

somebody like him because

1:01:01

the you know, they've got stories. They have to. Mhmm.

1:01:04

Like, just being in

1:01:06

that field, you know,

1:01:08

like, not necessarily haunted stories,

1:01:10

but just creepy stories. Yeah.

1:01:13

You know, I I would think too

1:01:15

that you develop a little bit of

1:01:17

a supernatural chalice though too. like,

1:01:19

you see things and maybe, you know, you're not

1:01:22

one to jump. It's just like, oh, there

1:01:24

they are. You

1:01:26

know? Yeah.

1:01:26

the Whereas

1:01:27

if you're just kind of a layman and you

1:01:29

see something like that, you'd be a little more freaked

1:01:32

out than -- Yeah. -- than most,

1:01:34

you know. And it it makes sense if

1:01:36

it was the spirit of the person

1:01:37

in the casket, they're getting everything ready because

1:01:39

they want

1:01:40

everything to be perfect. Okay. But

1:01:42

you and I have talked about this before,

1:01:44

bones So

1:01:46

you're standing near your graveside and you're looking at

1:01:48

the hole in which your body is gonna go

1:01:50

into. Are you not free to

1:01:52

fuck out at that point? I

1:01:55

would be, but think about it too. We've also

1:01:57

heard from numerous people that people

1:01:59

hang around. Your energy hangs around to

1:02:01

make sure the funeral goes good. to

1:02:03

people who see who attends -- Mhmm. --

1:02:05

and whatnot. So maybe you look past

1:02:08

that in your spirit world

1:02:10

and and almost if you've come to terms that you passed

1:02:12

away, you know what I

1:02:14

mean? You you almost

1:02:14

come to terms, like, okay. This is

1:02:17

my eternal resting place where for

1:02:19

my physical

1:02:21

body. Yeah. But obviously,

1:02:24

I'm not in my physical presence

1:02:26

anymore. Oh, that's you. You

1:02:27

know what I mean? one

1:02:29

to bring Mary Anne Wynn Palace key back on her. She wanna

1:02:31

ask her about because I to

1:02:34

me, I

1:02:37

And we don't know what

1:02:38

you're feeling when there. because you could be

1:02:40

at a sense of calmness because whatever,

1:02:42

when you pass, maybe calms

1:02:46

you enough that you're able to

1:02:47

process that, to cross over

1:02:50

to whatever the other side

1:02:52

is. Maybe

1:02:52

Maybe maybe you're right. I you

1:02:55

know, I maybe that's the reason I

1:02:57

don't go to cemeteries all that often once

1:02:59

the funeral is over. You

1:03:02

know, I You know,

1:03:02

I I love going to cemetery. We got three of them right by us

1:03:05

that are just 0II think

1:03:07

cemeteries are gorgeous. I've

1:03:09

I've loved cemeteries ever since the movie that

1:03:12

Crow, where he says the line where the

1:03:14

girl goes, oh, I know. You're not supposed to sleep in a

1:03:16

cemetery at night. He goes, it's the safest

1:03:18

place you can be. because

1:03:20

I replaced that. Yeah. And and

1:03:22

I was always a creepy kid that would go

1:03:24

hang on at the cemeteries. And and I love

1:03:26

looking at the old gravestones and

1:03:29

the time periods, you know, from the eighteen hundreds,

1:03:31

seventeen hundreds to now

1:03:34

and here in North Carolina because we're out here

1:03:36

where there's a lot of

1:03:38

historical stuff. you know, we've got three

1:03:40

churches by us and they all have graveyards right

1:03:42

in. In fact, there's a few know the other day

1:03:44

where they had to ten set up. So

1:03:46

when you're reading the story

1:03:48

in my head, I can see what

1:03:50

he's talking about, you know.

1:03:52

Mhmm. And it's III

1:03:54

enjoy going to a graveyard I enjoy and missus Bruce

1:03:56

and I both do. We like going in and checking

1:03:58

them out and

1:03:59

See, I I like to go to see. I like to

1:04:02

go to summaries to see the history and

1:04:04

to see how old some of

1:04:06

the the headstones are, and sometimes

1:04:08

you can get a little bit of

1:04:10

an idea of what people passed

1:04:12

away from. especially in in old in times.

1:04:14

But as far as going to

1:04:16

see relatives at the cemetery,

1:04:18

I guess, what keeps me from going

1:04:20

more often

1:04:22

is that I know that their spirit isn't

1:04:24

there. That's true part

1:04:26

of it. You know? Yeah.

1:04:28

But I

1:04:29

I believe that degrave

1:04:32

or the earn or

1:04:34

whatever you're left in is there

1:04:37

for the people on earth. to

1:04:40

remember you. Not saying that I

1:04:42

don't remember people. Like, I I think in my

1:04:44

father-in-law every single day, but -- Mhmm. -- like

1:04:46

when we go back to Wisconsin, we're gonna visit go to

1:04:48

his grapes. I you know -- Okay. --

1:04:50

and and visit his grapes. I I we

1:04:52

both know he's not there. Yeah. But

1:04:54

it's still nice to go and, you know,

1:04:56

and it's very therapeutic for missus because

1:04:59

she can talk, you know,

1:05:01

to something that is of

1:05:02

him, you know, knowing that his

1:05:05

body is of of their A

1:05:07

physical reminder to yeah. Yeah. Yeah. III got what

1:05:09

you mean. And, like, I have the guy

1:05:11

who started me in wrestling Trevor who we were talking

1:05:13

about off air, who

1:05:16

passed away. have part of his ashes here in the with Okay.

1:05:18

You know, and I I talk to him. You

1:05:20

know,

1:05:20

I just I think that's more

1:05:22

for the living than it is

1:05:23

for the debt. I

1:05:25

hear you know. Yeah. And I I you know, I'll go

1:05:28

visit my grandparents. And

1:05:30

every time we do, like, it

1:05:32

he was speaking in Nebraska and Missouri and

1:05:35

all that, I've gone and visited like

1:05:37

Jesse Jamesgrave. You know, I've I've visited

1:05:39

famous graves and stuff just to

1:05:42

see. Yeah. You know?

1:05:43

Yeah. So Yeah. I have

1:05:45

no problem with no grave. I I think

1:05:47

it's there to remind us. Like, if you

1:05:50

go to visit a loved one,

1:05:52

yeah, they're not. You gotta know they're not there. You're not gonna have

1:05:54

it's like when you hear about investigations and

1:05:56

stuff at Crave arts, I think that's

1:05:59

mainly not

1:06:02

the

1:06:02

people at the graveyard. It's it's other

1:06:04

forces around -- Yeah. --

1:06:06

because your their energy is already

1:06:08

gone. Why would they hang a graveyard. You

1:06:11

know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. You know?

1:06:13

Yeah. I completely agree. Completely

1:06:16

agree. Oh, I still I still enjoy

1:06:18

graveyard. I'd like I think it's awesome. I

1:06:20

love it. Right? I'm that creepy

1:06:22

kid. Nothing wrong

1:06:24

with that. Nothing wrong with that. Let's another

1:06:26

one here. Cruiser and Cruiser.

1:06:28

Oh, you got in first there. Look

1:06:30

at that. I did. Look at that. I got a

1:06:33

feeling. Cool. My wife decorated

1:06:35

our Christmas tree the the Friday

1:06:37

after Thanksgiving. After that evening, we had a

1:06:39

few friends and family over to

1:06:41

eat leftovers, enjoy the extra long weekend. My

1:06:44

wife was sitting on the couch and I was

1:06:46

in the kitchen when out of the corner of

1:06:48

my eye, I saw our Christmas tree begin

1:06:50

to shake. think I read this

1:06:52

last week, but I'm gonna read it anyways

1:06:54

again, so because Bruce didn't get to hear

1:06:56

it. My wife heard the tree in ornament

1:06:58

shaking and yelled for our eighteen month

1:07:00

old daughter to get away in the

1:07:02

tree, I picked up her and

1:07:04

our four year old son and explained that I

1:07:06

had both the kids near me, nowhere

1:07:08

near the tree. But I saw the

1:07:10

tree shake My sister who had recently moved explained that

1:07:12

since she had moved, she

1:07:14

believed that our mother who had passed had

1:07:16

migrated to our house not

1:07:19

knowing where her new house was.

1:07:21

She also told us that when she recently

1:07:23

saw a medium, she said that

1:07:25

our mother who or our mother would visit our dining

1:07:27

room and set out kitchen window into the backyard

1:07:30

frequently. I mentioned to

1:07:32

my sister that sometimes while sitting at

1:07:35

the kitchen table, a weird tradition in our family to pass

1:07:37

down kitchen tables. It would feel

1:07:40

like mom's dog would come and pop down

1:07:42

on the table or I'm

1:07:44

sorry. It

1:07:46

would feel like mom's dog would come and plop down and the table

1:07:48

would shake a bit. She said

1:07:50

this confirms what her medium hit

1:07:54

holder and she had not mentioned anything about the table to us.

1:07:56

Is mom home for the holidays in

1:07:58

quotes? I sure like to think

1:08:00

that she was watching the kids as

1:08:04

That was her biggest concern when she passed. Anyways,

1:08:06

gents, keep up the good work. Cruiser next time

1:08:08

here in KC, I'll show you some barbecue.

1:08:12

and some of our many local breweries. Cruisers, same girls for

1:08:14

you, stay well and come visit. Hopefully, I'll be able

1:08:16

to find some time to submit some more pair

1:08:18

of shoes as the wife and I on

1:08:22

a small brewery in Texas that

1:08:25

per the local paranormal

1:08:27

society says is haunted. So

1:08:30

I know what Malley and I answered

1:08:32

to this last week. I wanna ask you, is

1:08:34

it mama or is it something else? I

1:08:37

think it is mama.

1:08:39

Because I have

1:08:40

historically speaking, so Halloween

1:08:42

is always the time when the veil is

1:08:44

thinnest

1:08:44

that's

1:08:47

just what we've all known. But why wouldn't Christmas

1:08:49

time be another time? It's a

1:08:51

very religious holiday. Mhmm. You

1:08:54

know? Then and I'm

1:08:56

talking all face, celebrate some sort

1:08:58

of winter solstice, you know, whether it be Christmas, Hanukkah,

1:09:00

Kwanza, whatever. Why wouldn't the

1:09:02

veil be thin then too? then

1:09:08

And if it is mama, you know, I I

1:09:10

think it will be mama because mama wants to

1:09:12

see the kids

1:09:14

and whatnot. And what time to come see kids than

1:09:16

at the holidays when you know

1:09:18

they're gonna be excited and joyful

1:09:20

and happy and you know

1:09:22

what I mean? Mhmm. Like, my

1:09:25

kids I I missed them the most at the holidays. That's when

1:09:27

I wanna see them. Mhmm. So why one grandma wanna come

1:09:29

and see them, especially with as

1:09:31

young as they are? And

1:09:34

I

1:09:34

think it's awesome that they own a haunted brewery. I would love to come to the haunted brewery in Texas. Right

1:09:36

on. I'll tell you

1:09:38

what I thought last week.

1:09:43

Okay. I don't think it was mama shaking the tree. I

1:09:45

think it was a dog.

1:09:47

Oh, that's a good

1:09:49

point too. Yeah. because why would mama shake a

1:09:52

tree, one, and two, dogs always

1:09:54

end up playing in the tree.

1:09:56

Yeah. So if

1:09:58

if their kitchen table already moves because the dog flops down. Yep. Why wouldn't the dog

1:09:59

I I

1:10:02

agree

1:10:02

with that too. Yeah. So

1:10:05

that's that's what I thought last week. Let's see here.

1:10:07

I think we'll hold the we'll the other story off for later

1:10:10

in the program. Let's get back to

1:10:12

our Let's

1:10:15

get back to our story's hair

1:10:17

shell. Wait. Let's start.

1:10:19

First of all, with

1:10:23

a little bit of AI news, why

1:10:26

not?

1:10:26

We'll start off your fuel.

1:10:28

We'll start off a little

1:10:31

easing. We'll start off slow bruiser, and then we'll build build Bruiser that'll

1:10:33

make you wanna hide in your house for

1:10:35

the rest of your

1:10:38

life. Yeah. But it's AI, so we can't hide. That's true. Yeah.

1:10:41

AI doesn't find us and kill us. That's

1:10:43

right. It's everywhere. A young Chinese woman

1:10:45

who lost her eye in a

1:10:47

serious car accident dedicated her life

1:10:49

to creating prosthetic eyes that glow different colors. Okay, that's

1:10:51

a little creepy. That's not creepy

1:10:55

at all. No. In twenty thirteen, Zia

1:10:57

Tong lost one of her eyes in a car

1:11:00

accident. She was

1:11:02

only eighteen at the

1:11:04

time. and she had it

1:11:06

replaced with a prosthetic eye. See that music in the background, just making the creepy.

1:11:08

She had it replaced

1:11:11

with a prosthetic eye. Instead

1:11:14

of losing confidence in herself and shying

1:11:16

away from people because of her appearance,

1:11:18

the young woman decided to turn her

1:11:21

situation to make herself stand out.

1:11:23

after studying to become a prosthetic

1:11:27

eye technician or

1:11:31

an ocularist bet you didn't know it was an ocularist. Did you? I I

1:11:33

didn't know that because I know PCL.

1:11:35

Oh, that's true. You

1:11:38

do. Yeah. Alright? Zia

1:11:40

Tang started making all sorts of

1:11:42

unique prosthetics for herself, which she

1:11:45

showed off on social media.

1:11:47

slowly building up a loyal following. Okay.

1:11:49

Even though she's a gorgeous

1:11:51

girl, tell me this wouldn't freak

1:11:53

you the f out of the

1:11:56

two here. bad. No. Yeah. That if

1:11:58

no one's sleeping right on that. No. No. No. No.

1:12:00

147. And

1:12:04

yet, She's a very beautiful woman. Yeah.

1:12:06

She's like that also shows she's either demonic or a robot. Yeah.

1:12:08

She's a terminator. The minute

1:12:10

she shows up and her eye

1:12:13

starts glowing pink -- Yeah. -- or red or blue. Yeah. That's when I think

1:12:15

we're gonna have a discussion.

1:12:18

147 Tang is perfect

1:12:22

capable of making classic prosthetic

1:12:24

eyes that are almost indistinguishable from real

1:12:26

ones, but she is best known for

1:12:28

her bionic eyes and, quotes, that light

1:12:30

up different colors and even flash the press of

1:12:33

a button. Short videos of her trying out

1:12:35

some of these unusual prosthesis. have

1:12:38

been going viral in China,

1:12:40

and she recently got the attention

1:12:42

of mainstream media as well. all

1:12:45

the red one is just oh, I'm gonna show you this in a minute. Cruiser. And you're gonna wait for

1:12:47

her to say she

1:12:51

put a bag lighten once less.

1:12:53

It's a big vision. Yeah, really. The twenty eight year

1:12:56

old woman told Beijing News that she

1:12:58

got into making prosthetic eyes is a way

1:13:00

of helping

1:13:02

people like her deal with confidence issues. Oh, so

1:13:05

you're just gonna scare the crap out of

1:13:07

all of us who have seen Terminator.

1:13:09

Yeah. because if she closes her

1:13:11

eyes, it's still gonna flashed through her

1:13:13

eyelid. Right. Right. She had met a lot of people who had

1:13:15

become isolated her head's low

1:13:17

self confidence after losing

1:13:20

an eye and

1:13:22

that had inspired her to

1:13:24

become an ocularist and create better

1:13:26

prosthetics. Some people want realistic prosthesis but

1:13:30

some like Ziyatang herself use their

1:13:33

disability to make themselves really

1:13:35

unique by incorporating small LEDs

1:13:37

in their prosthetics. This allows

1:13:39

them to look like real life

1:13:42

androids or Terminator robots. And that's, according to this article,

1:13:45

admittedly pretty cool.

1:13:48

They've never see

1:13:50

the Terminator movie. It's not cool.

1:13:53

It's gonna get you shot

1:13:55

in some places. Giatang's story

1:13:57

and her commitment to

1:13:59

making better prosthetic eyes recently went viral

1:14:02

in China with most people praising her boldness and her power to turn

1:14:05

a traumatizing life

1:14:08

changing event and her life into

1:14:10

something positive. Okay. Now I'm gonna show you something that's absolute

1:14:12

nightmare fuel because of the

1:14:14

look in her eye bruiser Take

1:14:18

a look at this and tell me you wouldn't shit

1:14:20

yourself if you saw this in a dark

1:14:22

room. Yeah. No. That would terrify me.

1:14:24

Yeah. Like,

1:14:25

I good for her for taking a

1:14:27

negative and turn into a positive, but that's that's

1:14:29

positively scary than it is. Oh. Like, that's a

1:14:31

great Halloween trick. It

1:14:34

is. I I bet if she dresses in all black leather and walks up to your door and says, Trico, Trico, Trico, Trico,

1:14:37

you would be

1:14:40

like, oh, Fuck

1:14:42

no. You can own all the candy. Yeah. Just don't shoot me. use

1:14:48

O'Connor. Nope. No. I'm not. Yeah.

1:14:50

No. No. Uh-uh. Yeah. We we can part his friends

1:14:52

right here, and I am going to

1:14:54

take a shot at his future head

1:14:57

That's Yeah. Like, she should have more fun to, like, make them laser pointers. So that,

1:15:00

like, someone's in, like, class

1:15:02

and, like, turn the laser pointer

1:15:04

147 to

1:15:07

start looking all over the place. doing

1:15:09

the rolyai thing, like like

1:15:11

Marty Feldman? Yeah. Oh, got it. And

1:15:13

then watch like I had to

1:15:15

go on that Oh, yeah. A meg light.

1:15:17

Yeah. That'd be even better. Yeah. The the do the rollie eye thing,

1:15:19

watch a cat chase the

1:15:21

laser all over the

1:15:24

room and end up bunking its head all over

1:15:26

the place, that would be that's why I'm not in charge of making prosthetics because I just think always a

1:15:28

screw with people. Even

1:15:30

though that screws with people,

1:15:33

because like you said, she could walk

1:15:35

into a dark room and turn it on. And it's like, okay. Yep. that girl.

1:15:36

inherited on and it's like okay yep avoid

1:15:38

decker

1:15:39

yeah Yeah. It's a who boy?

1:15:41

She's single. You know what she is?

1:15:43

Yeah. Well, yeah.

1:15:44

because she scares the

1:15:45

hell out of half of the

1:15:48

male pop population. You've

1:15:50

seen terminator. That's why. Do you think she waits till their intimate before she turns

1:15:52

in on? And would that

1:15:54

freak you out? Would you just

1:15:56

That's

1:15:59

it. You go soft right there and you

1:15:59

walk away. I

1:16:02

can't think there's

1:16:04

too many guys that

1:16:07

have a Terminator No.

1:16:08

No. Uh-uh. No. I don't

1:16:10

know. God, I don't know. I just

1:16:14

don't know. In the maybe

1:16:16

I should see a psychiatrist

1:16:19

on getting part two.

1:16:21

Back to the future, a woman talks to

1:16:24

her past self in a trippy

1:16:26

conversation after training an AI chat

1:16:29

bot on her

1:16:32

childhood diaries. This is not gonna

1:16:34

end well. No. No. Especially if you like

1:16:36

you had psychopathic

1:16:39

tendencies as a child. Well,

1:16:41

here's that too. Michelle Wang has created an

1:16:43

artificial intelligence chatbot of

1:16:46

herself as a child this

1:16:50

is not going to end well. She

1:16:52

trained it to learn what she was like

1:16:54

based on a diary from when she was

1:16:56

young. Ms. Wang used

1:16:58

open AI language model generative, pre trained, transformer

1:17:00

three to drive herself

1:17:02

crazy. So we have an

1:17:06

ansty teenage AI model out there somewhere.

1:17:08

Yeah. It says that we could

1:17:10

talk to our younger selves.

1:17:13

What would we say what advice would

1:17:15

we impart and how would it feel? Boy,

1:17:17

this just seems like mind fuck

1:17:19

three point o. Well, one

1:17:22

woman has an idea after she created

1:17:24

an artificial intelligence chatbot of herself as

1:17:26

a child by training it to learn

1:17:28

what she was like based on

1:17:31

a diary written when she was Creative Coder Michelle Wayne used

1:17:34

source material from ten

1:17:37

years worth of entries and combined it with

1:17:39

the open AI language model generative pre trained

1:17:42

transformer three or GPT

1:17:44

three. It's

1:17:47

like it's got t three in the

1:17:49

title. Don't don't play with

1:17:51

it. Right. She told people

1:17:53

on Twitter that she created

1:17:55

the AI system so that she

1:17:57

could engage in real time dialogue with her inner child.

1:17:59

This sounds like

1:18:02

everything was a psychiatrist.

1:18:05

This sounds like everything wrong

1:18:07

with AI right here. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you want DAI? I

1:18:12

don't know. and

1:18:14

then arm it with something. Give it a give it a weapon. That that sounds to be a good idea. Yeah.

1:18:16

Let's give it laser eyes and

1:18:18

a gun and and the the

1:18:23

the personality of thirteen year

1:18:26

old angsty, hate the

1:18:28

world, pub you

1:18:31

know, going through puberty teenage

1:18:33

me. And then give it give it the addresses of all

1:18:35

your your childhood bullies and your home address

1:18:37

and watch a go nuts. Yeah.

1:18:39

I was a dick

1:18:43

when I was a teenager. I do not

1:18:45

wanna relive

1:18:47

that. I just

1:18:48

can't imagine Overall, this was

1:18:50

a very trippy, but also strangely affirming healing experience would have

1:18:53

to say, but

1:18:56

III didn't

1:18:58

realize that I had access to

1:19:00

using real data from my past self

1:19:02

allowed. From a feeling

1:19:03

calling better help or a

1:19:06

therapist. Yeah. It'd just be easier to

1:19:08

call therapist. From my past

1:19:10

self allowed me to connect

1:19:13

with her in deeper plus more

1:19:15

tangible ways than I typically have.

1:19:17

She tweeted, conversing with

1:19:19

younger Michelle reminded me of the

1:19:22

parts of myself that have stayed constant through the

1:19:24

years, but also the parts that I

1:19:26

forgot or buried as life went on.

1:19:30

It was like holding a mirror to

1:19:32

an unapologetic, more earnest, and pure

1:19:34

version of my own essence. Was

1:19:37

it though?

1:19:39

You you go through

1:19:40

things in life to

1:19:43

learn.

1:19:43

Mhmm. Experiences that you go

1:19:45

through in life teach you something

1:19:47

so you don't If it's a bad experience, you don't

1:19:49

go through the bad experience again. Why would you wanna relive that? You've already learned the

1:19:52

lesson that

1:19:54

you can come with that. Right. The person you are now is more

1:19:56

pure than the person

1:19:58

you're back then because

1:20:00

you've actually been

1:20:02

tested through the fire of

1:20:05

My life. Yeah. Yeah. So to say, well, I wanna know what

1:20:07

I was back then. Why? This reaction,

1:20:10

I wanna go backwards.

1:20:12

you know everyone england first especially

1:20:14

when it's a teenage brain which isn't formed.

1:20:17

Right. You know what I

1:20:19

mean? Like, think about how you

1:20:21

when we were sixteen, we thought we

1:20:24

knew everything. Mhmm.

1:20:25

But we don't. Right. You're not even close? No.

1:20:27

She revealed that she had kept iris for

1:20:29

more than ten years of her

1:20:31

life and wrote them

1:20:33

almost every day about what her dreams, fears, and secrets were. The content

1:20:36

range from complaining

1:20:38

about homework to getting

1:20:40

us felt

1:20:42

from talking

1:20:44

to

1:20:45

my crush. Some days were

1:20:47

very mundane, some rather

1:20:49

insightful. miss Wayne tweeted after

1:20:52

scribing a ton of journal entries

1:20:54

and feeding them into the model,

1:20:56

I got working responses

1:20:58

that felt nearly similar to I think

1:21:00

I would have responded during that time. Miss

1:21:02

Wang said she asked her younger self about her worldview before

1:21:05

allowing the chatbot to

1:21:07

reply with its own questions.

1:21:10

The specific interaction felt very similar to a normal texting conversation as if I were texting

1:21:12

my past self

1:21:15

in real time, felt

1:21:18

like I was reaching through a time portal disguised

1:21:20

as a chat box. She wrote. It

1:21:22

was I was also surprised how

1:21:25

accurately the model predicted

1:21:27

my current stated interest. after lots of iterations

1:21:29

and trial and error from decade old journal entries, this made

1:21:31

me wonder that maybe this path was

1:21:33

actually already seated long ago

1:21:35

in my psyche. Miss

1:21:38

Wang highlighted two key interactions that were most memorable.

1:21:41

She said

1:21:44

I told that she was

1:21:46

loved, cared for, and safe, the words that my past self always wanted to hear, she tweeted.

1:21:52

It felt like I was reaching into

1:21:54

the past and giving her a giant hug and I felt it rippled back into the present.

1:21:57

Here's the thing,

1:22:00

a computer can't feel those

1:22:02

things or an AI chatbot can't feel those things. No. And

1:22:05

and

1:22:07

what you're feeling is that

1:22:09

you're loved and cared

1:22:11

for?

1:22:11

So if you know what I

1:22:13

mean? Like, you're feeling some that you've been

1:22:15

wanting to feel you're

1:22:18

just now coming to realization that, hey, I feel this. Right. So if you truly feel it, good

1:22:20

for you. You you

1:22:22

then finally feel it, but

1:22:26

you're reaching out to an AI program and telling it's

1:22:29

it's loved and cared for. Okay.

1:22:31

So that's projection. So you

1:22:34

can do that in your own mind. You

1:22:36

can go back and tell your inner child, your loved.

1:22:38

Yeah. And you can do that exercise in a psychiatrist

1:22:40

office. You don't need

1:22:42

to tell an AI program that because what's the AI program gonna do? It's gonna tell you what you hear. Yeah.

1:22:45

The AI doesn't

1:22:48

care.

1:22:48

No. It's

1:22:51

it's

1:22:51

it's just an object. Yeah. You can tell

1:22:53

that to a rock or a chair

1:22:55

or a tree. Yeah.

1:22:57

and

1:22:58

you'll get more more of a response.

1:23:00

I could tell Ziggy that. Yeah. I'll tell

1:23:02

Ziggy all the time. You know, hey, Ziggy. I

1:23:04

love you. You know, she I know

1:23:06

she loves her back because she weighs her tail. Yeah.

1:23:08

And she'll give you kisses and everything's good. Yeah. But by telling AI

1:23:10

bot that, the AI bot goes love you too, Matt.

1:23:15

That's it. Yeah. You're so good, bruiser.

1:23:17

I love you. You're a good

1:23:19

guy. Give me beer. The

1:23:23

other was when she prompted her younger self to

1:23:25

write her a letter into the present day.

1:23:27

This is where it gets dangerous

1:23:29

-- Yeah. -- because

1:23:32

it's projection. Yeah. Based on only a little bit

1:23:34

of data you've put in there. So then it needs to fill the

1:23:36

gap. And

1:23:39

it's it's data that you wanted to hear.

1:23:41

Right. So it's it's not

1:23:43

it's not

1:23:44

data that you know what

1:23:46

I mean? because, like, if I'm putting data and I wanna hear all good stuff

1:23:48

about me. Right. You know? And like

1:23:50

you said, it's leaving

1:23:51

gaps. Right. And it

1:23:54

has to project to to

1:23:56

put other things in there. So

1:23:58

now -- Uh-huh. -- you're putting things in your own head. Yeah.

1:23:59

Yeah. While reading

1:24:01

this, she said I

1:24:03

felt the ruminations spiral the

1:24:06

ones that I fall into sometimes when I

1:24:09

feel shame or disappointment, melt away

1:24:11

a little, she said. That's because you're

1:24:13

only hearing the good that you wanna

1:24:15

hear. Yeah. These interactions really elucidated the healing

1:24:17

potential of this medium of being

1:24:19

able to send love back into

1:24:21

the past as well as receive

1:24:24

love back from a younger

1:24:26

self. But what happens, there's no love coming back. It's words. Right.

1:24:30

It's no emotion. you into it is

1:24:32

coming back to you. Now what happens

1:24:34

if that AI decides it wants

1:24:36

to spin it and send

1:24:39

you negative stuff back? Exactly.

1:24:41

Then it's playing upon your self esteem.

1:24:43

Yes. And you're getting cyberbullying from something

1:24:45

that doesn't

1:24:48

exist? Yes. Yeah. But you think you

1:24:50

think it's you your inner child bullying you. Right. It's as simple as right now, you could

1:24:52

take your phone out.

1:24:55

You you can record Cruiser,

1:24:57

I love you. You're a fantastic person. Everything about

1:24:59

you is great. And then ten years from

1:25:01

now, playing that

1:25:03

recording to myself. Right. Right.

1:25:06

Because it's

1:25:06

all I wanna hear. Right. It doesn't even that data motions there. Right.

1:25:08

But you're almost

1:25:11

better off doing that.

1:25:12

better off doing that You

1:25:14

are. Yeah. Because that that

1:25:16

recording will not manipulate it to

1:25:18

be like, oh, you're a piece

1:25:20

of shit. You're fat. you know --

1:25:22

Yeah. -- where the AI bot will do that eventually

1:25:24

because all of our journal entries couldn't have been positive. It

1:25:26

couldn't have been old. Today was a great they,

1:25:30

you know, it had to be my parents suck. They

1:25:32

won't let me go sleep over at

1:25:34

Susie's house. Yep. This boy, he

1:25:37

sucks because he loves Susie instead of

1:25:39

me. and say, you know what? All men

1:25:41

suck. Yep. You shouldn't be with men. Yep.

1:25:44

And it's

1:25:46

not because the AI thinks that It's the programming that data. It's

1:25:48

it's the data you put into it. The data

1:25:50

you put into it is the data you're

1:25:53

gonna get out of it. Yes. So she's just putting all

1:25:55

the positive entries in there. Of

1:25:57

course, it's gonna come back positive.

1:25:59

Yeah. Exactly.

1:26:01

She went on to

1:26:03

say the stuckness becoming unstuck of finding

1:26:05

closure with past Gilder stories that

1:26:07

we had of herself. She

1:26:09

later shared a tutorial for

1:26:11

other people who create their the their

1:26:13

inner child chatbot using GPT three after receiving a lot of

1:26:16

interest about

1:26:18

her AI experiment. GPT three is an auto regressive

1:26:20

language model that uses deep

1:26:22

learning to produce human like

1:26:26

text developed by OpenAI It

1:26:28

requires a small amount of input information

1:26:30

to generate large volumes of relevant and sophisticated machine generated

1:26:33

text. Anyone can use it,

1:26:35

but it does acquire

1:26:38

a lot of work with a tutorial

1:26:40

from Miss Wang included

1:26:42

creative well, it's it's

1:26:44

it's got there's an

1:26:47

article Well, there's there's steps in this article on how to

1:26:49

do it. There's a key phrase

1:26:51

there too that

1:26:54

people are overlooking. It's machine generated text.

1:26:57

Mhmm. So it's not

1:26:59

your

1:26:59

inner child

1:27:00

texting

1:27:02

you. It's a

1:27:03

machine that you are

1:27:05

telling

1:27:05

is your inner child,

1:27:08

and it's

1:27:08

text. I hate having arguments

1:27:11

over text, you know what's behind those words. Right.

1:27:13

Yeah. You know, there's no fear

1:27:15

and emotion. Right.

1:27:19

Yeah. Right. Yeah. If you're interested

1:27:21

in in how to do this, it's a daily mail article. Just look

1:27:24

up Michelle

1:27:28

Wang HUANG

1:27:31

and and with that name, look

1:27:36

up What is the

1:27:38

term here? It is

1:27:43

well, look up AI chat button,

1:27:45

Michelle Wang, an open AI language model.

1:27:48

And you'll you'll

1:27:50

get it'll pop

1:27:52

up in daily mail or just

1:27:54

look up Michelle Wang in daily mail, and it'll come up for you. I'm I'm not one to to

1:27:59

say whether it's healthy for you or not. I I

1:28:01

actually think it's probably healthier to if you wanna get in touch with you or your child

1:28:04

to do it

1:28:06

through other means. Yeah. I agree. I

1:28:08

just don't think that it's healthy. The other thing too

1:28:10

is when you're when you're using an open bot chat

1:28:13

like that, it's so

1:28:15

easy to be hacked. Yeah.

1:28:17

Yeah. Someone literally can control somebody by doing that. Yeah. And somebody can

1:28:20

come come in

1:28:22

and corrupt your files.

1:28:24

So I

1:28:27

I don't know that it's the easiest way to do it. If

1:28:29

you if it's something you wanna get in on the

1:28:31

ground floor of and and just

1:28:34

do it quick and and get rid of it, that's fine. other thing, bruiser

1:28:36

that I worry about was something like that

1:28:38

is somebody becoming addicted to something like

1:28:43

that. Yeah. because then they really think they're getting that advice

1:28:45

from their true younger self. And

1:28:47

they don't realize that

1:28:50

that is just AI. It's just something

1:28:52

else, much like some people

1:28:54

get hooked on psychics and

1:28:56

getting advice from the other

1:28:59

side. someone may get hooked on this AI chatbot that they think

1:29:01

is really their younger self, and all it

1:29:03

is is a computer

1:29:06

program. And something negative

1:29:08

is gonna come through, and they'll take it as as gospel

1:29:10

-- Yes. -- at night. Okay. Good. Could add negatively because

1:29:14

they've already You've already got some sort of

1:29:17

mental health issues. I'm not saying you have

1:29:19

mental health issues if you're doing this, but

1:29:21

if you get attached to it, like you're

1:29:23

saying -- Yeah. Yeah. You

1:29:25

know, fight fight a human and talk to a human. Yeah. You know?

1:29:28

Yeah. It's the

1:29:30

best

1:29:31

way. Yeah. Exactly.

1:29:33

So we talked about it yesterday on True Crime Tuesday. And,

1:29:35

yes, a lot of you have emailed me over the

1:29:37

story, and it is absolutely one

1:29:39

hundred percent true. San

1:29:43

Francisco has passed

1:29:46

in its city council

1:29:50

the beginning of the end. The beginning of the end

1:29:52

in San Francisco, they've

1:29:54

allowed lethal police robots

1:29:57

to become reality and to to

1:29:59

use them to deploy robots capable

1:30:01

of using lethal force in their

1:30:03

police force. The San Francisco

1:30:06

Board of supervisors voted in favor

1:30:08

allowing police to deploy robots

1:30:10

capable of using lethal force

1:30:12

after a fiery

1:30:15

debate, the proposal easily passed an eight

1:30:17

to three vote. I'm surprised it was that close. I know.

1:30:19

You know, I There's eight people

1:30:22

that have never seen the movie terminator.

1:30:24

Yeah. or

1:30:26

Robo cop or any of those movies. Yeah.

1:30:28

Robo cop. That's the one that I

1:30:30

used yesterday because if you

1:30:32

watch Robo cop, that's the whole thing

1:30:34

is letting police use Leath of force and the n four thousand

1:30:36

bat kills everybody. Yeah.

1:30:38

Yeah. The San Francisco

1:30:40

police department currently has seventeen

1:30:43

robots that can be equipped

1:30:45

to use lethal force. However, officials say they don't plan to

1:30:47

give robots guns. That's never the plan, but it somehow always

1:30:49

ends up that way. And although they're like,

1:30:52

oh, we're gonna

1:30:55

give them guns, but Tim, what are they gonna give them? Well, I'll get

1:30:57

to that their version. I know. That's

1:30:59

that's the part that

1:31:01

I'm thrown by. instead they plan to outfit

1:31:03

them with explosives. So we're

1:31:06

not gonna give them

1:31:08

guns. No. We're gonna give

1:31:10

them bomb. That's right. That can be used to

1:31:12

breach buildings or

1:31:15

contact incapacitate or disorient a

1:31:18

potentially dangerous suspect. So

1:31:20

here's looking at you, kid.

1:31:23

Boom. Oh. Yeah. You can

1:31:25

just be blown up. Officials

1:31:27

said the robots would only be used when the risk

1:31:29

of loss of life to members of the

1:31:31

public or officers is

1:31:34

imminent and officers cannot subdue the threat after

1:31:36

using alternative force

1:31:39

options or deescalation tactics. supervisor

1:31:42

Dean Preston, who is one of the three people of vote, no, voice concerns that

1:31:45

the robots could

1:31:48

be misused. there

1:31:50

is serious potential for misuse and

1:31:53

abuse of this military

1:31:55

grade technology. Again, keep those

1:31:57

three words in mind of

1:31:59

this whole telling me that humans

1:32:02

are gonna misuse something? Milltown, cherry grade technology.

1:32:05

Yeah. So so

1:32:08

we're giving people some sort of weapon and

1:32:10

they're gonna misuse it. Come on, Tim. This thing was happened. This thing was meant

1:32:12

to kill the bruiser. It

1:32:14

was it was built to kill.

1:32:18

Like I said yesterday,

1:32:20

local man dies today because he locked himself

1:32:22

out of his car and the robot has

1:32:24

had to blow it up. That's

1:32:28

right. And zero showing of necessity

1:32:30

is what it says. So there's

1:32:32

serious potential for misused and abuse

1:32:34

of this military grade technology and zero showing

1:32:36

of necessity was said in

1:32:38

the meeting by supervisor Dean

1:32:42

Preston A second vote on the

1:32:44

policy will be held next week as

1:32:46

it if it passes again, it'll

1:32:48

head to the desk of

1:32:50

San Francisco mayor London who has voiced

1:32:53

support for allowing police to use these lethal

1:32:55

robots. The mayor supports policy, and

1:32:57

this is from the

1:32:59

mayor's office directly. The mayor supports

1:33:01

policies that allow police officers to quickly and safely respond to situations that

1:33:04

involve a risk

1:33:06

of violence to the

1:33:08

public. and this

1:33:10

includes tools such as live video

1:33:12

or robotics technology. These tools should be available

1:33:14

to pull or peace officers to employ

1:33:18

to save lives. I don't understand how

1:33:22

explosives save lives.

1:33:24

I don't

1:33:24

either. And I think

1:33:27

everybody needs to mail a

1:33:29

Blu ray version

1:33:30

of Royal Cup and

1:33:33

Terminator to that mayor.

1:33:35

I think so too. This is

1:33:37

what happens when you

1:33:39

arm

1:33:39

robots. Now on top

1:33:42

of that bruiser off of

1:33:44

robots with explosives. The

1:33:46

American

1:33:47

computer scientist declined

1:33:51

the term virtual reality is cautioning that

1:33:53

extinction is on

1:33:56

the table and

1:33:58

is learned of text existential threat

1:34:00

to humanity talking

1:34:02

about AI. So he

1:34:04

the guys that created another world

1:34:06

are telling us, oh, hey, saw our we've

1:34:08

gone too far this time.

1:34:11

That's right. Jern Lanier

1:34:12

The

1:34:15