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there i just have always wanted to say
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titillating ah hopefully
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i can live up to your expectations for that word you
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, dating since ah
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we've got apps we got reality shows
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social media what did you
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try to someone as a different generation
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wow the differences in dating
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and relationships extreme
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lake where's your
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options way less premarital
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sex and to be honest
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way less dating burn out
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and disappointment so
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much has changed something
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they the same
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in love and that's why i have kimber
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stay in and grab a gale have the excuse
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my grandma podcast joining
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me to break down the differences in dating
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for different generations spy we
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always kick off the show with news you can
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use our big headline today is
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here's exactly how and why
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you should soft launch your relationship
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on instagram then later indira
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dimona i have a question from a fella who
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says i fear that once my matches
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know certain things about me they'll
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think i'm too much for them
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it's a real one your want to stick around for that
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albright friends are we prepared to be titillated
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suffer less day
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the painting days
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cosmopolitan magazine tells
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us exactly how and why
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you should soft launch year relationship
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on instagram let me back up a second
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because i know we have people of different generations
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who are listening to this podcast add some folks
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are not even on instagram that are saying
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what i saw applauds girl
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okay i thought launch his casually
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introducing a relationship online
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without actually introducing
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it so , examples of
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a soft launch our pictures that tease your
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couple them to your friends and followers and
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you know when court the kardashians and travis
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barker had pictures holding
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hands that know captions are tiger is
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and day and tom holland using the using g
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caption my spiderman to remember
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that and then we were like why would he me
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your spiderman
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oh grow you meet your spider
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man that's different
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that's different from a hard launch a hard launches
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posting hard couple pics that's clearly
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featuring the other person with a caption
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to match and it's just in is an
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official announcement but official think is you
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announce somebody you're creating a
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a whole digital thread and
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back when facebook was you
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know the number one social
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media platform there was
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that option rate of clearing
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your relationship and none getting all
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these comments like i remember when a friend of mine undeclared
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her relationship that was like and
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i think she didn't know that than anything
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you do on facebook if you
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don't change the settings for
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for it being announced
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or with you know they call the tech world
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posted pushed to your friends
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and followers if you don't change
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the setting is is automatically he's out
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there so she just seems or settings
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and not in a relationship and then all the sudden
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that was on her wall and improve the oh my god
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girl what happened like you might not be ready to
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have a whole composition chooses
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trying to discreetly seems her status
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without making announcements and then it became
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a bigger thing but on the other
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side like sometimes then another
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person may post you like this happen
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actually with my best friend this guy posted
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some i guess like a soft launch soft launch
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and i didn't know she was dating anybody
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and i was
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a little bit hurt
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it it turns out he was is really
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into her and it happened really
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really fast she was not ready for
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the soft launch really it was more of a
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hard launch because he tagged her in it
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so we have to really think about who else may
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be affected when you are posting
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on social media about your boo
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the in and why are
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we doing are
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we having a relationship for the public
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for the outside world are we having
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a relationship for ourselves and
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why is that important to get that stamp
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of approval like why do we even need the south
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once were like here we are holding
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hands and and now we
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created a ton of mystery about who
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is this person and how did they
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meet in all these questions come up
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look just hard launch when you're really together
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because i've been through this with a lot of clients
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who have declared on facebook like
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in a relationship with so and so who
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have a ton of pictures i
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am in his kardashians are their masters
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at this affects how many relationships
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given his have we found out from social
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media but then after
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you have to process the breaker then
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are you gonna go back and do digital scrub
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so that it's not affecting
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your next relationship and
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i think that complicates matters
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so live your life live
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your life on social media but really
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ask yourself why is
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it that important for me to
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declare to the outside world that i
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am in a relationship is it that you want to send
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a message to the you know aren't
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d amherst that you're off the
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market and therefore stop with the
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dm slides or is it that
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you want to celebrate love between
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you and somebody else or is it that
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just seeking some sort of
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social media
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validation
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then
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do you really need that is that
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something that
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the giving you
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more value
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then
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the relationship that you're an are
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the people who might be affected
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either now or in the future
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about either yourself launch for
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your heart launch on instagram
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ab are determined to do
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a a subtle hints to release
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and serve go a like in the show no
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it's because we willing to
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the cosmopolitan article
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all of the many ways that
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you can soft launch a relationship
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in a classy and provocative
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way to those two
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words go together
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her
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well when we come back a kim
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and grammar gail from the excuse my
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grandma podcast will be with me discussing
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the differences in dating for different generations
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welcome back if you
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are on the tic toc you
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probably already know about my guess for
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today timbers steen and
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her grandma grandma gail
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kim is a content creator see hosts
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the excuse my grandma podcast with
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grandma gail they cover dating relationships
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and sex advice from two very
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different generational perspective
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so please help me give big switches
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to these wonderful ladies of excuse
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my grandma gym and dale
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hi
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everyone i am so happy
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that you're here i have to tell you i've
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done a lot of podcast episodes and
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i had the most fun on
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excuse my grandma it was that
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your blast and i was like you
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have to be here to talk to anchor
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they they not yeah ,
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my view on our as as well yeah awesome
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what is i'm curious what made you want
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to even start the
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podcast in the tic toc and the
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whole internet save that you have
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now
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i was working in
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media as like a reporter and producer
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and during the pandemic the
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early twenty twenty one i want to say i
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moved in with my grandparents in florida
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and normal human york city i
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would actually going on dates and my grandma's
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just like such a character as everyone the single
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learn very shortly and was
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giving of her to sense i like my dating
12:45
life and kind of everything
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else bash and picking out of bed
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of that and always agree
12:52
running your life yes actually out
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what has been my whole life by i was like why don't
12:56
we record saw it and make it into a podcast
12:58
and see if people like and they dead
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and shortly after we started on
13:03
tic toc and instagram
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you know anything crazy short videos
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enough kind of like our main platform
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now of yeah i teach you different
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eating terms we pick out the night
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owl fits we kind of
13:16
the at all my grabbing sun
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and we're having fun so i'm curious grandma
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gale what do you think the
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biggest changes in dating
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are from the time when you were single
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to the time that him i
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was dating and under your
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roof of for the offender new well
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i know i have to honestly say the dating
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today as it's the we dated
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and the neanderthal times i mean there was
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no said we went out i went out on a million
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dates but dating was
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a prelude for marriage i certainly
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after you got out of school me i'm not saying
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dating and eighteen but by the time
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he way of nineteen twenty twenty
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one and your senior in college you already
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thinking of getting married and the guys
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were too because first of all it
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was very little premarital sex and
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that was a major difference in the late
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fifties and early sixties if he wanted
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to go to bed with a girl or guy you
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know that they're basically needed the ring
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on your face and eyes of
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the lack of birth control he also a societal
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nord societal yeah your hands would depress
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you you'd never be allowed or it and most
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families would never tolerate never tolerate you move
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in with somebody that was that that was even a conversation
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it was a very different world and
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young people today rightfully don't
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live that way was it all wrong
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i don't think so some of the step we did
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were pretty good we knew that if he
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were dating someone after three four months and
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it wasn't going someplace that you thought it should
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go you get on with it to day
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things linger on or you don't give
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that person the extra time
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that we did because we rarely
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it was really getting to know one another and
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we have to do it slowly we couldn't go
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jump into bed with somebody and oh my god that's
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the greatest than a my life i just didn't happen
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to and sometimes it didn't end up pregnant and
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then you are really in trouble you that to get married
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faster whatever alternatives we saw
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it you know it was a different world and
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i think the girls and guys today
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have less a better chance
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of finding the right mate
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because you have jaded so much
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and have been intimate with more than one person
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i'm so glad that he said that grandma jail because
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you know i'm i'm bullish about dating
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apps dating think that's it
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the has expanded our dating options
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and a lot of leaders
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today particularly younger daters i'm
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not picking on you can i swear a
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, of daters don't realize how much
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opportunity they have and
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they'll come to come saying although saying hate dating
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apps because i'm getting those did a happy situation
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ships and situation ships are
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added difficulties that
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com with the added expansion
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of you're dating pool so i'm
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curious kim from your perspective
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there's some daters that are kind of nostalgic
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for this old way of dating
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that the the more traditional
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courtship process or
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do you feel like dating
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better for you today then
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then maybe it would have been if you were dating
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fifty years ago it's hard because
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i have days where i'm one way and days were on
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the other machu pisces i'm like to fish swimming
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in opposite directions and such an old
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soul were like i romanticize
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the hollywood movies and not fifties
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kind of like courtship which is why i
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get along with my grandma so wealth but
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i'm also extremely modern and most
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of my thinking and i love dating apps and
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that's like one of our biggest differences
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you're like okay family fix up like
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you have to know the person or your friend has
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introduced yeah i almost
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exclusively go out from dating up dates
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and i go on dates because i
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think i can choose best for myself
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because
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under person going out with that not my friend
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who sending the up with them and yeah i think
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he said a great dimona of like it's just another
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avenue to meet some i agree with you on
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that even though i'm bullish on see
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things up this and i think a a lot
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of times people will say i just don't do
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dating apps is like like now
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that's where the majority of people
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are meeting their partner so just to completely
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swear off one area dating
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a little bit short sighted unless you
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know yourself and you know that it doesn't work
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for year like i would not do something because you
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like oh there's a stigma around at either wanted
17:29
i hate when people say i don't want to tell my kids i
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met my husband on an app from and my
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why like it's not better than like i met them shrunk
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at three am at this bar in the west village
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like i don't get why that's any better
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at like alleys you're choosing the person on
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some level but you're allowed to
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not be on it and make that decision for yourself
17:47
you just have to it's personal
17:49
you can are you think come to dimona
17:51
and so yeah exactly or black adder at a gas
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think that's the way surface see
17:56
you been out here in these dating street
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scam i curious
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if you could let us know what
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the red flags are that you
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see and dating there's
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so many like i feel like that's every conversation
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i have with all my friends of like how
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many red flags you can get to before you fully
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stop because it's never just one probably
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like
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the someone who kind of like selfish
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and not prioritizing
18:22
either you or dating and john are
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also like they'll are so
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busy with work day you
18:29
know have a boys' night on saturday so they don't
18:31
have time for a date like just coming up
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with the excuses and not making dating
18:35
a priority i think is like
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an obvious red flag but like
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one that i feel like is the most important i
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agree with you and the second one
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would be someone that doesn't like to share
18:47
in family situation
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sort of a control freak i'm curious
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you brought up how sexist
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changed what do you think about
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sex
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on the first state now graham again
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i don't think you should ever have sex on the first
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it telephone
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first of all
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that's is still an emotional issue
19:08
and it has more psychological
19:11
ramifications for women than it does
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for man that's proven that's written that
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upset so women really
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if you're having sex with a man have
19:20
much more personal feelings it's just
19:22
not the act itself act itself emotional
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act it's commitment it's a lot
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of stuff it shouldn't be a thank you
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it shouldn't be a lot of things it should
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be that you really have an emotional
19:34
connection with that person and you want to go to
19:36
the next level to me meeting somebody
19:39
and understanding somebody as level one
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number two perhaps
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would put in the sex put in that
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that sexual element can
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i saw you not in your head the agree
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with graham ago
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the
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i agree with someone that i saw hundreds
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of i know i i've read
19:57
that if you do wanted to turn
20:00
like a longer term relationship
20:02
there is no rush and like you
20:04
can wait till date five or whatever
20:07
it is you feel comfortable with ah
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but , do say to her all the time like not everybody
20:12
wants dot and if they just
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want are looking for like some sexual gratification
20:16
are like to have fun and that a wannabe and something
20:19
serious begin to have sex whenever they want and
20:21
you agree with i agree with that just make sure
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that everybody it is actually a safe yeah
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true true for yeah i'm pretty
20:28
on that know quite traditional
20:30
two words like i always tell
20:32
my friends like it's better
20:34
to wait so kim
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what are you look for i know you and i had
20:39
and i bit of ah the differing opinions
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on tax the use of images
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of a i want to know
20:47
what your rules are for taxing and
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what are any taxiing or communication
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red flags that you seen before okay
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well i guess first city a mogi
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situation mogi just
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find it so cringe he to use any
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a mode ye
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except and then i give like a few exceptions
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your i kind of like wanna look at my like
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the most houses are thousand i
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know what is all the time now you're showed
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no no do if you likes the message
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that's different than sending the emoji of
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the i wanted may emerge yeah that sounds kinda
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rude but like liking the message
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i feel like assigned i i'll put
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up with the i roll emoji
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i feel like that's fine the
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smirk m o g i like
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when guys use hearts sorry this is like
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controversial isolated really
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okay good night with a higher idea some guys like that
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like
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horror using a what do you like video
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soon but again relevant it's to my
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she i , i say
21:47
i can send a heart but i know now
21:50
ah no kissy face what our
21:52
i'm not married and sending
21:55
and lots on are now i don't like a
21:57
like think i only like a with is a thing thought about
21:59
we only the american the iraq i
22:02
, going to say it by suffer
22:05
t t
22:07
that's not bad world that's all i'm
22:09
okay were so
22:11
in other words know about is so no
22:13
mode you get him eventually not but how do you
22:15
read at you know i've said it that
22:17
said like they m
22:19
o g for mood model it's
22:22
a mood modifier it's it adds
22:24
context to what you're saying so how
22:26
do you read between the lines
22:29
when you only have had to go on
22:31
any don't really know that person yeah and their sense of
22:33
humor spend hours over
22:35
analyzing them with my grandma about
22:37
know i put a i agree with you
22:40
like i'm a most users mood modifiers
22:42
i feel like i should think about that
22:44
more but like even if you i'd
22:46
like to the crying laughing a mood year something
22:49
it's like something think like could still read dot
22:51
the runway a true or if someone
22:53
doesn't understand your sensibility they
22:55
could read sensibility they wrong way but then it makes me
22:57
wonder if you have that much trouble
23:00
communicating and they
23:02
don't like that sense of humor
23:04
and you then maybe that's a difficult
23:06
fits i found when i didn't my husband
23:09
he was just a terrible tax or like he just
23:12
thought he was just not good at taxing
23:14
and you know why there's still
23:16
a terrible text or to this day and
23:19
it doesn't matter of don't change but there's no
23:22
there's told that really put emphasis
23:24
on it like if they're not that it texting
23:26
it won't even go out on the date with them
23:28
you don't feel bad i had happened again
23:31
i held by the yeah happens all the
23:33
time i actually
23:35
was just talking about this in her seats
23:37
were always like ah i'd texas
23:40
guy and like if someone
23:42
like went someone like one day with that the right
23:44
responded to me like four days later
23:46
but with like six paragraph and i like that's
23:48
just weird i champion a relationship like that
23:51
and my services like i actually
23:53
think that better that he sat down and spent
23:55
the time to like formulate a good response
23:58
vs just like getting back to you in the mobile
23:59
if you had a planning you're trying to meet someone and
24:02
are like not responding a thought okay but like
24:04
this is your someone kind of like half heartedly
24:06
been like what's up like that doesn't
24:09
mean anything and i feel like we put so
24:11
much emphasis on like or digital relationship
24:14
matters a little bit but like i just
24:16
think the in person one matter so much more
24:18
it does i can tell you that from sixteen
24:21
years of marriage later say if it it
24:23
doesn't matter that he is not good
24:25
at taxing i have tried
24:27
to get him on board
24:29
with where you have grammar gail doing like
24:31
the like game just let me know you
24:33
saw it yeah like it so that
24:35
i know that like we're
24:37
having an exchange is it like if you
24:39
just read it and i'm like i don't know if
24:42
like if i'm like pick up the kids
24:45
mind and then i
24:48
need a little bit of the feedback loop of core
24:50
but it's but it's part of it like i used to say
24:52
scram a gala uses a tax thing is for informational
24:55
not conversation when i started coaching and i
24:57
still believe them but i i've had to modify
24:59
it because my really i so much a
25:01
part of our communication
25:04
culture the day after we can't
25:06
we can't ignore it yeah and you need some banter
25:08
otherwise like it's not fine like it needs to
25:10
be a little bit flirty overtaxed otherwise
25:12
like you could be taxing anybody you
25:15
could be taxing anybody i
25:17
feel like there's been a lot of stories about
25:20
you know catfish say and
25:22
and you know the tinder swindler and less some
25:25
kayla in all of these stories of
25:27
people who are not who they
25:29
say they are and
25:31
that's that's difference grama gail
25:33
from we know when you when
25:36
you were dating you know it wasn't
25:38
like you're meeting random strangers
25:40
you you are kind of a few degrees of of
25:43
that area and from or if
25:45
we it made it's a person we had a reference
25:48
they would be no way you'd go out with somebody
25:50
who somebody else did know it just wouldn't
25:52
happen and , still
25:55
unfortunately agree with that because
25:58
i feel more comfortable the
26:00
you know where somebody is from maybe
26:03
there are causing a relative somewhere
26:05
on the way you've touch base with somebody that knows
26:07
your day i think scary
26:10
and i think that's one of the hazards of
26:12
a online dating you don't really know
26:14
no the jews real picture you don't have it
26:16
to three
26:16
story ah there's so many
26:19
unscrupulous people out there
26:22
unfortunately today that you
26:24
have to be a little more careful and them
26:26
i'm sure the dating apps are doing the best they can
26:29
to screen but people are constantly
26:31
fools ah so i think
26:33
young men young women have to be ritual
26:36
and the wild west out there so how
26:38
are you how , you fixing this for
26:41
kim and for her love life or he if
26:43
is is missing anything for her
26:45
life she's as a good job on our own fortunately
26:47
i haven't been couch vanished ah
26:50
so i can't limit really comment it's
26:52
probably because i do do like old a good amount
26:54
of due diligence like of
26:57
usually it will cross
26:59
reference with all their social media selects
27:01
i'll look them up on instagram and
27:04
linked dad and facebook or ever to see
27:07
one is like their job is what they say it is
27:09
to who are mutual friends are
27:12
and if there's are lot of them fine if
27:14
there's one of them sometimes i will reach out
27:16
to like that one friend and say like hey how do you
27:18
know this person and like you think we would hit
27:20
it off once hit am like when hinge first launched
27:23
you know with all hinges on your facebook
27:26
can actually i and i had somebody
27:28
that i had date with someone that as
27:30
i only knew very
27:32
very casually but i was
27:34
laid i'll be honest
27:36
i i thought he was lake kinda
27:38
nerdy and and
27:41
, was really cool she's
27:43
a really cool lady and she was like do
27:45
you know this guy at i
27:47
at want to be like oh no
27:50
because who knows what people are into
27:52
and mind like my interpretation of i'm kind
27:54
of nerdy i mean like i i
27:56
married you know it
27:59
a bit of a nerd
28:00
myself zone idea what outside
28:02
it what to shoot it down but i was like i can't
28:04
say the negative about him but i can't
28:06
really leaving positive those it's like
28:09
gabriele you should go back
28:11
i didn't work out but i but i don't
28:13
want a the reason that it and right but
28:15
that is so hard says like and there's
28:18
some people were i i asked friends
28:20
the for and then after mike why did
28:22
you not tell me that like they
28:24
are like weird or whatever it is an
28:27
with but you know what because there's nothing really wrong with
28:29
them they might be weird for you with somebody
28:31
i will say would prefer thousand percent but
28:33
like my friends know me a why would
28:35
they not know that it wouldn't be a match
28:37
members because i think you have
28:40
to be a little open minded you never done well
28:42
i always am which is why like i do always you
28:44
can't trust one person's opinion is also they
28:46
could have bad taste like ,
28:49
yeah it is a slippery slope slope
28:51
a slippery slopes are i i
28:53
prepared a little game for us
28:55
to play so that i could get to know
28:58
you both a little bit better i've
29:00
never done this done the show before but
29:02
i think it'll be a lot of fun have you ever play the game
29:05
never have i ever have
29:07
a hammock yeah really i mean it's
29:10
so normally you'd it's like a drinking
29:12
game since you would be drinking if
29:14
you have done nothing but
29:17
instead since we are recording a podcast
29:19
and a lot of people are listening to the audio only
29:22
if you've done it you just say
29:25
me sicilia ,
29:27
so it's yeah exactly this is always that will give all
29:30
so confusing else is dimona
29:32
says something and you have done the
29:34
same to say be say yeah yeah
29:36
but you know your family gail a
29:38
third day of are going to find out some things that
29:40
are all of us are you ready oh my gosh shared
29:43
never have i ever will start
29:45
start small never have i ever
29:48
just on a first date
29:51
mean a dimona okay all three
29:54
of a sudden the a idea
29:56
actually my husband i kind of how to rule and
29:58
i kind of broke it
29:59
but
30:01
they kept her interesting so you usually would
30:03
never kiss on the first day or say
30:05
and then like what changed no
30:08
no usually i would come and
30:10
ah then i was like i
30:12
pray before i met my husband and are not be talk to
30:14
other sons excuse my grandma but i
30:16
was doing a dating plan for myself i called operation
30:19
date nice guys because i was trying to change
30:22
the kind of guys that i was
30:24
dating and so in my mind i was like a
30:26
nice guy would never tissue on the her
30:28
day and yet
30:31
the did and he isn't i yet i it in santa
30:33
think that sure i think like a nice guys
30:35
kiss on the first day ah
30:38
i just i don't like kissing on the
30:40
first state to the you don't know how
30:41
the other person feel like the person
30:44
is not initiate when they leave and no
30:46
but you know it daily lives i knew i
30:49
wasn't gonna lean in fact that so
30:51
wait until i've accepted a second date where you know
30:53
it's like a mutual like of the
30:56
good point that's a good point
30:58
eight inches surprise me it's surprise me
31:00
at then i was intrigued because he did seem
31:02
like the quintessential no sign and i was like swayed
31:04
do nice guys do this apparently they do other
31:07
here's another one never have i ever
31:10
more than kissing on our first date
31:13
now i be nice
31:16
in overdose
31:18
the
31:21
the and hard about yeah
31:23
, a know grandma yeah come
31:25
on spill the beans
31:27
now
31:28
okay i'll just me out of only
31:30
one home and our our oh
31:32
that's your set of that's usa disavow
31:35
usa disavow thing as minutes i've never
31:37
have i ever live with a man before
31:39
marriage
31:41
again it's just me as it
31:43
, this as i say we are out there
31:46
was actually was big point of contention
31:48
for my parents because we have been
31:50
exclusive we've been dating for like
31:52
three years and so i knew this was
31:55
coming but we actually grandma
31:57
gail you're gonna gail gonna say me i
31:59
can hours the i can already see i'm looking away
32:01
i can't really go away what is that
32:04
what you do
32:05
then he bought a house together before we
32:07
were and ah god
32:09
you need our pre nup lawyer my
32:13
, to the us as as
32:15
knew that we i knew that he was ring sobbing
32:18
and we've been talking about it we're building future
32:20
and i didn't not we were kind of just
32:23
for fun going to open houses
32:25
and i was not expecting to find
32:27
a house that i wanted and then
32:29
we found her dream house so he ended up proposing
32:32
the night of closing ah file
32:34
sharing q but it could have gone sideways
32:36
hundred automatic that it got a that
32:38
they loved him but they they wouldn't
32:41
talk to me to said the entire
32:43
month of closing okay have of this one
32:45
never have i ever been on
32:47
a completely blind date not
32:49
like an online date like an blind date where you
32:51
didn't
32:52
the know anything about
32:54
the person kind
32:56
like when you set me up a few
32:58
weeks ago i didn't have
33:01
in my , may sound the
33:03
blind date like i barely had either one
33:05
blurry photo does i guess that accounts
33:07
blind date un a blue ridge is going based
33:09
on the recommendation of graham again or hockley
33:12
exact yeah yeah yeah
33:14
guess i have to tell a
33:16
lie daves yeah i guess daves have
33:18
to that nobody that i really didn't know anything
33:20
about your friends that you are
33:23
now i think family for
33:25
you've been married now as then i think
33:27
i was obliged a nuclear it
33:29
it was a date i did know my the i
33:31
go to school with them yeah we
33:33
how did you meet tell us about it family
33:36
oh my yeah my uncle and his
33:38
father were in the navy together so
33:40
that was during the war a war two when they were
33:43
having an anniversary and them
33:45
they were at a party at their home and
33:47
they said they had a nice he ,
33:49
well i'm obliged to meet or and that's
33:51
how we met so it's basically a blind yeah
33:53
right right things that we
33:55
had no pitches to compare we
33:58
had nothing near nothing illustrates now
34:00
going on the recommend we went on family
34:02
recommendation wow that
34:04
is stepping out on fates i'm
34:06
never have i ever given out of fake
34:08
phone number
34:09
me
34:11
once a week do you do it
34:13
dissipates actually really million and my my friends
34:15
always like wanna you just give your correct number
34:17
the not response and then my friends
34:19
who really know me they're like because she would
34:21
feel like she has to respond because
34:23
i can not be mean to people want them actually
34:25
innocent like if you have my number i'll
34:28
probably end up like dating you for six
34:30
months because i to not so now so
34:32
i have to give up as a neighbor right up yeah
34:34
i can operate as having a little allowing is he
34:37
has an issue breaking i know i actually
34:39
thought you were going to say that you
34:41
hadn't because i find
34:43
that a lot of younger daters or they're like
34:46
nobody's even asking for phone numbers third
34:48
like they just are like what's your eyes he said
34:50
oh that but i ,
34:52
know why harder to give a fake id id
34:55
yard and luggage the my you have i i
34:58
mean maybe the right unless you have a sensor
35:00
but i think of her
35:03
yeah actually though there's less commitment would
35:05
say instagram because some i could follow you and
35:07
then dm you and then you could just be like i didn't the
35:10
through the diane's any time i'm
35:12
out they asked for my number not
35:14
like mans
35:16
the proper
35:17
what about you grandma i'll never
35:19
why we didn't have cell phones this
35:22
is we only have landline said nobody
35:24
had a watching thousand and nineteen sixty nine
35:26
when i graduated high school and let's do
35:28
one more never have
35:31
i ever
35:33
when in law
35:35
the
35:36
you've fallen in love or whether to say
35:38
though as a game
35:42
i mean if you've done is
35:44
oh me ah
35:47
i was in love i lotta times a lotta
35:49
lot and one lives long
35:51
as they're more that you want to tell us know
35:54
but no occurs those guys that silly as
35:56
i think most of them a dead
35:57
my
35:59
why as so
36:02
mine that listening to excuse
36:04
a gorilla talking with you do it
36:06
says like says like like i was my
36:08
own grandma and i know
36:11
i loved seeing how dating
36:13
has changed over from generation
36:16
to generation but how what
36:18
really see the same rate
36:20
communication and connection i feel like
36:22
that is ultimately what still
36:25
drives humans to this day together
36:28
we were all looking for love no matter if matter if
36:30
nineteen fifty nine or twenty twenty two right
36:32
thank you so much for joining me kim
36:35
and grandma gail you all
36:37
absolutely need to be following
36:39
excuse my grandma on instagram on
36:41
tik tok go to excuse my grandma
36:44
dot com and definitely definitely
36:46
listen to their podcast excuse my grandma the
36:48
links will be in the show notes in
36:50
a moment i will be back to answer
36:52
the following listener question i'm
36:55
afraid to share some personal info with
36:57
my match
36:58
what should i do
37:00
here's what i love of a doing the show i
37:02
love that you trust
37:04
me you trust me with your heart that
37:07
is really the most precious
37:10
gift that you can give me an wonderful
37:13
honor that i get to sit in the seats
37:15
and so that is what really feels me
37:17
to keep doing the show and keep giving
37:19
back and giving and slice and so
37:21
thank you for being here and thank you for
37:24
sending and so many questions i
37:26
love hearing your questions i love the united
37:29
giving me like the softball questions you're
37:31
really telling me what's happening what's
37:33
happening love life so with that
37:36
that out today's question
37:41
the motor help me this is an instagram message
37:43
from a listener named mathew matthew
37:45
says how do i approach my disability
37:48
and associated issues with someone i might
37:50
be romantically interested and i'm
37:52
currently single currently single
37:54
at once many years ago with
37:56
a solo wheelchair user and
37:58
we shared similar to the that since
38:01
we broke up i haven't dated anyone
38:03
or met up with anyone knew i
38:05
would love to be more approachable to women but
38:07
i have i have that once they know certain things
38:10
about me the think that i'm too
38:12
much for them i'm afraid the walk
38:14
away and i'll be left feeling rejected
38:17
and hurts and worried
38:19
and i won't ever find someone who loves
38:21
me for me
38:23
yeah matthew i don't
38:26
know all the details about your disability
38:29
and associated issues associated you say
38:31
but i have to say that i
38:33
can certainly relate and i'm sure a lot of listeners
38:36
can relate to the ceiling being
38:38
afraid to open up and be there
38:40
true self because
38:42
they're worried that they'll be rejected
38:44
or hurt or worried that they won't find
38:46
someone
38:47
who loves the authentic them
38:50
that is such a relay double situation
38:53
and i'm sure it's only amplified by your
38:55
disability but out bring
38:58
it back to something
39:00
that i say on the show time and time
39:02
again and why the tagline on my website
39:05
dimona often dot com that
39:07
love as you are because there's
39:09
one thing that's not really changeable
39:11
i mean we can weekend shifts
39:14
are behaviors we can sister thought
39:17
that a lot about us is
39:19
is not really going to change and
39:21
you certainly shouldn't even
39:24
for a second about changing yourself
39:27
in order to be more lovable more
39:29
the double less rejected
39:32
i know this because i've lived at mathew
39:34
you know as know as of a biracial
39:37
background not as any provisional
39:39
backer a black a jewish growing
39:41
up in the midwest
39:44
not easy and it certainly was not
39:46
the same as being a
39:48
wheelchair user or you
39:51
know navigating the disability that
39:53
you're living less but it definitely
39:56
made me feel others a lot of the time
39:58
and
40:00
it wasn't until i really leaned
40:02
into the things that made me me
40:04
and became more my authentic selves that
40:06
i was able to attract authentic
40:08
love
40:10
i have coached will care users and
40:12
folks with various disability before
40:15
on online the evening and again
40:17
i have to come back to the truth in
40:19
advertising i got another question
40:22
where someone asked about revealing
40:24
personal details on their dating
40:26
app that were like court details to
40:29
their
40:30
life in life circumstances and
40:32
they said
40:33
they said if i don't reveal that and i match
40:36
with someone a lot of times once we start talking
40:38
they're more open to it right
40:41
from what i've seen even
40:43
if someone can warm up to the idea
40:45
of
40:46
disability or having a kid
40:49
or
40:49
anything else that? maybe a block
40:52
for them i really see
40:54
that as an unnecessary challenge
40:56
for you to overcome in a relationship
40:58
a relationship much rather that you lead
41:01
unapologetically
41:01
everything
41:06
that
41:07
you unique
41:09
and if that means that your wheelchair user
41:12
that's just the thing that is and
41:14
his somebody is going to swipe
41:16
left on you because of that
41:19
then
41:19
that's on them that's not the person that
41:22
is really going to be able to show
41:24
lot for you and be there for you when the
41:26
times are getting
41:27
now does that mean that you want to put
41:30
everything in your bio
41:32
like and then i need somebody to
41:34
help me with this and this is what this looks
41:36
like know of course the specific
41:39
that revealed as someone
41:42
earns that information from you overtime
41:44
as you get to know them
41:46
and i know you've heard this before matthew
41:48
but you know you
41:50
are not limited that
41:52
chair
41:53
and
41:54
you are an us and you come
41:56
to the table so much to
41:58
offer if you operate from
42:00
that fear that once they know certain
42:02
things about you that they'll think
42:05
that you're too much because you were maybe
42:07
too much for somebody else that
42:10
wouldn't see past that if
42:13
you allow yourself to be limited then
42:16
it will prevent you from
42:18
approaching women it will prevent
42:20
you from
42:22
dating someone new n n
42:24
that narrative will start
42:26
to get
42:27
more deeply ingrained
42:29
the more that you repeat it and the
42:31
more that then those bullies
42:34
form your actions
42:35
the challenge matthew to think of all of the
42:37
ways that you are
42:40
a beautiful loving person and that
42:42
someone's life would be enhanced
42:44
by having you in it answer
42:47
really like repeat that yourself
42:49
almost as a mantra repeat it to
42:51
yourself before you go out before
42:54
you approach a while
42:55
before you even sleep
42:57
on online dating and know that
42:59
the
43:00
right person will
43:02
see all
43:03
that in you but you
43:05
can see it and you first
43:07
the project outward as well
43:10
thank you for your question the and
43:12
thank you all so much for listening
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this is episode four hundred and twenty nine
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updates in may i love
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getting your feedback i got a fantastic
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email from a listener name geneva you'll
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have to hear this sincerely cause she she
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like breaks it down
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so check out what geneva had to say
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she says dimona i wanted to thank you for
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how much you and your sage advice of helps
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me and in turn many of my friends
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several people know i have reentered the world
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of dating after years of marriage everything
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about dating is different this time around and they
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all feel lost i happened
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to start dating a slight bit before them
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so they've all come to me for advice and
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i appointed every one of them to your podcast
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and distilled some your top tips into a short
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list for them i tell them to
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one keadilan
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either three to five massage
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you create a list of the three to five
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deal breakers three no
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i think don't let a first day go on longer
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than an hour and a half which usually means
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no dinner and even have got
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the and then for she says
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give anyone who doesn't have their deal breakers
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a three day chance to see if they hit it off
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like geneva is i hear taking notes
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and i also got a dm from rosie
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who said she listens to my podcast
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with a journal though
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i knew the help you and support you
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by the way the dating accelerator program officially
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officially has begun but
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actually it's not too late our first
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classes on wednesday september twenty
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first so you miss
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the early bird you miss the regular bird
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you can still get in the late bird
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if you sign up before wednesday at the
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dating secret dot com and
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you'll get those tips but also
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a lot more as my team and i help you
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navigate
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typically through each step
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each dating loop each step of the dating process
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so thank you for being here thanks for listening
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and thank you so much geneva and rosie
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and all the people who've taken the time to dm me
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or send me their questions for the show
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you can always reach out i'm on twitter
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facebook and instagram at dimona hoffman
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you can also text me your question at four
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to four two four six six
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to five five or leave me a voicemail
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i love to hear your voice i love to
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know which guests and topics you love and
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i love to know what's on your mind in dating and
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relationships next week
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i have something have very exciting
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on deck for you any indian
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the hit netflix show is
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a personal obsession of mine and i'm
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so excited that next tuesday i will
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be back with naughty with jackass
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are of indian matchmaking season
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one and season two until
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then until wish you
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happy dating
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