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when whatever circumstances

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one of those things that we can struggle with.

2:39

You know, you think about

2:41

the world in which we live in

2:43

the Western world,

2:45

the United States, and the comfort

2:47

that we may feel. And I know

2:49

that depending on our circumstances, we may

2:51

not feel that our life is all that comfortable. And

2:53

then you travel overseas, you

2:55

go to a third world country and you

2:57

see the poverty and you see the lack,

3:00

but you see joy and you see people

3:02

who have learned to be content in whatever

3:04

circumstance they find themselves in.

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Reminds me a little bit of the apostle Paul,

3:09

as he's writing in the book of Philippians

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about contentment. And

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in Philippians chapter four verse

3:15

11, he says, not

3:18

that I speak from want, for I have

3:20

learned to be content in whatever circumstances

3:23

I am. Our

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world promotes dissatisfaction with our lives.

3:29

All you have to do is look at advertising, and

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you're told that you know your life

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could be better if you had this, and your life could be better

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if you had that. We're constantly bombarded

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with newer and better things that

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will make our lives more complete, if

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we would just obtain them. If

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we listen to the world, we're always

3:47

going to be comparing the lifestyles and possessions

3:50

of others with our own, and

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we're always going to be dissatisfied if

3:55

our contentment comes from possessions, from

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activities, from other people, well,

3:59

these things, they can be altered,

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they can be removed. But

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if our contentment comes from a relationship

4:06

with Christ, there is absolutely

4:08

nothing that can take that away.

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Now, the apostle Paul, he'd enjoyed power

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and status among his people. He'd

4:17

also been imprisoned and bound in

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stocks in the depths of a jail cell.

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He'd stood before King, and he'd

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been almost stoned to death by an angry mob.

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Paul had enjoyed the benefits and pleasures

4:29

of life, yet he could give

4:32

them all up and still

4:34

be filled with the joy of the Lord.

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His contentment didn't depend on

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his environment, but on

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his relationship. With

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Christ. You know,

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contentment frees you to

4:48

enjoy every good thing

4:50

that God has given you. And

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contentment demonstrates your belief

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that God loves you, that

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he's got your best interest in mind.

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5:41

It seems like every day we wake up to a new headline

5:43

of what's going on around the world. And certainly

5:45

what's been happening in Israel has been dominating

5:48

many of those headlines

5:50

internationally today. And joining us

5:52

to talk a little bit about what is happening

5:54

in Israel and in that part of the world

5:57

is Joel Rosenberg. He's a New York Times

5:59

best selling author. He's also editor

6:01

in chief of a couple of news and analysis

6:03

websites and host of The Rosenberg Report.

6:06

Joel, welcome back. Good to have you with us again.

6:08

Hey, great to be with you guys. Thank you so much.

6:10

You know, as I'm looking at headlines this morning

6:13

as it relates to the nation of Israel,

6:15

the number one headline I'm seeing at the moment

6:17

is US military apparently beginning

6:19

to construct a port at Gaza.

6:22

What what's going on there and what's kind of

6:24

the sentiment or the feeling about that happening?

6:27

Yeah. Uh, one of the key

6:29

concerns, um, of

6:32

the international community, certainly the US,

6:35

uh, administration, the Biden administration,

6:37

is that, uh, not enough humanitarian

6:39

relief is getting into Gaza.

6:42

Uh, of course, what Hamas set into

6:44

motion this horrible war that started October

6:46

7th has been raging now for more than

6:48

six months. But when the problem

6:50

is, it's very difficult to get,

6:53

uh, food, water, medical supplies

6:55

in to the Gaza Strip,

6:57

not because it's physically difficult, but

6:59

because the Hamas terrorists,

7:02

uh, either, you know, tend to shoot

7:04

up the convoys and steal

7:06

the food. Yeah. So, um,

7:08

so one of the things that the Biden administration

7:10

recommended in March was

7:13

could could the United States and Israel

7:15

build, uh, a

7:17

basically a, a, an island, a

7:19

floating port, as it were, so that,

7:22

uh, food and other supplies could come,

7:25

could be checked in terms of security in

7:27

Cyprus and then shipped and

7:29

then cleared again through security on this

7:31

island and then brought into, uh,

7:33

into Gaza. And it's just one more

7:35

of multiple ways that Israel

7:37

is allowing aid from the international

7:39

community to come in. Um, but

7:42

it remains a problem because Hamas,

7:44

uh, is not defeated yet. And,

7:46

and and Biden is simultaneously,

7:49

uh, trying to pressure

7:51

us not to finish the job.

7:53

I'm glad you phrased it that way, because that's

7:55

the way that I've felt that, uh,

7:57

you know, there was this, you know,

7:59

instant when the attack happened.

8:01

We stand with Israel. We understand

8:04

that they were attacked, and they're going to need to do what

8:06

they need to do to take care

8:08

of Hamas and any other threat in that area,

8:10

and certainly Hezbollah and the growing threats there.

8:12

And so we understand Israel needs to

8:14

do this. But the longer this goes on,

8:16

it seems like the international

8:18

pressure continues to grow.

8:20

That all right, Israel shut it down. Is

8:22

is do the people feel that

8:24

there.

8:26

Yeah, but we also feel

8:28

that our many Israelis, not all,

8:30

uh, feel that President Biden is, um,

8:32

I'm going to use the term politically schizophrenic.

8:35

He, he is standing with us in many

8:37

ways. And even though I'm a critic of President

8:39

Biden on many fronts, um, you

8:42

know, he did just, uh,

8:44

help pass and sign with, you know, led

8:46

by, you know, the evangelical Christian

8:48

speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. But he,

8:50

you know, President Biden just signed a $17

8:53

billion emergency military aid package, but

8:55

he also stalled on it for six months.

8:58

Uh, President Biden, um, has

9:00

been vetoing most of the crazy,

9:02

uh, condemnations of Israel at the UN

9:05

Security Council, but he abstained,

9:07

uh, last month. So he's

9:09

arming us. He's providing, uh, ammunition

9:11

and weapons, but he's also pressuring us not to finish the

9:14

job. So, yes,

9:16

the situation in Gaza is grim. I mean,

9:18

I was there, I went in as an embedded

9:21

journalist for, um, All

9:23

Israel News, our news site at All Israel. Com

9:26

and with a, with a film crew

9:28

from my TBN TV

9:30

show, prime time, 9:00 eastern.

9:32

So 8:00 Chicago. Um,

9:34

on Thursday night, uh, which is called the Rosenberg

9:37

report. And I, we went into

9:39

the most intense fighting

9:41

in a place called Khan Yunis. I went

9:43

into those terror tunnels. I stood

9:45

in cages where Israeli hostages, including

9:48

a one year old baby, had been held. And

9:50

I was in the lair of the Hamas

9:52

leadership. It's really an eerie thing

9:54

to wake up in the morning and freedom in

9:56

Jerusalem with your family and then go

9:59

into Gaza, spend the day in

10:01

horror, and then come back and take a shower

10:03

and have dinner with your family. It's bizarre,

10:05

but I will say, especially to this

10:07

moody audience, that that, you

10:09

know, yes, the devastation is apocalyptic.

10:12

This war has been horrible. But President

10:14

Biden is the head of the world's only superpower.

10:17

Uh, and and the United States, when it fought

10:20

against ISIS and al Qaeda

10:22

and others in Fallujah,

10:24

in Ramadi, in,

10:27

um, you know, in Mosul, it

10:29

like flattened massive

10:31

areas. It there is a double standard

10:34

and there is a sense that, oh, we're getting so

10:36

much pressure. Will the United States

10:38

of America, I mean, for crying out loud.

10:40

Okay, why don't we lead the world

10:43

and say, listen, this is a hellish

10:45

war. We it's it's horrible. We want to help it

10:47

be over. But one side

10:49

has to win, and it's

10:51

the side that's against the terrorists

10:54

that are already on the international and American,

10:56

you know, terror watch list. So

10:58

let's be honest, um, you know,

11:00

the French didn't do such a great job in North Africa

11:03

or in, you know, and, you

11:05

know, we're going to listen to the Russians and the Chinese.

11:07

I'm seriously that's that's the plan. I mean, I

11:09

think President Biden is not showing the mettle,

11:12

uh, that he needs, uh, except

11:14

sometimes he is. So I have

11:16

to give him, uh, you know, I guess a

11:18

C minus. Sure. He gets

11:21

A's in some part of the report card, but

11:23

he really gets F's in others.

11:24

Well, Joe Rosenberg is with us. He's

11:27

New York Times best selling author. And as you heard, he

11:29

is the host of the Rosenberg Reports,

11:31

as well as the editor in

11:33

chief and founder of a couple of

11:35

new sites that do the analysis

11:37

of some of these stories that we're talking about this

11:40

morning, all israel.com one, we're

11:42

linking you to Joel through our Facebook page.

11:44

It's, uh, Joel rosenberg.com. Or

11:46

you can find that link when you hit our Facebook

11:48

page, Don Steve in the morning. More with Joel

11:51

coming up in just a few moments. What are some

11:53

of the other stories that maybe they're not dominating

11:55

the headlines that you need to know? We'll talk about

11:57

that in a few minutes. Well, we've got Joel

11:59

Rosenberg with us, New York, Best High, a

12:01

New York Times best selling author. He's the host of

12:03

The Rosenberg Report and founder and editor

12:06

in chief of Sum News Analysis websites.

12:08

And Joel, let's you know, a lot

12:10

of what you spend your time doing, taking a look at what

12:12

those headlines are happening around

12:15

the world, and especially in the Middle East and in Israel,

12:17

and helping us think through what

12:19

that means and help us kind of run that

12:21

through a biblical worldview. As

12:23

we think about what happened back in October

12:26

7th, as we think about, you know, the recent

12:28

headlines of Iran attacking

12:30

and, uh, you know, 99% of missiles

12:32

and drones and shot down, we

12:34

see these big headlines and

12:36

sometimes don't necessarily look underneath or behind

12:38

those headlines to think about the

12:41

humanity and the spiritual implications

12:43

of all that. Uh, you're just saying off

12:45

air a moment ago that this is actually

12:48

caused a kind of a spiritual searching

12:50

in Israel.

12:51

It really has, Steve. And again, you're right.

12:53

This is one of the reasons we started All

12:55

Israel News almost four years ago

12:58

at All Israel Comm and

13:00

why I started the Rosenberg Report on TBN,

13:02

the most watched Christian television network

13:05

in the United States, because there were

13:07

so many stories that that

13:09

we are, in fact, covering the war. We

13:11

live here in Jerusalem. We saw the missiles coming

13:13

in from Iran, the drones. We saw

13:15

them being shot down. We covered that all through the

13:17

night here. But there are stories that

13:19

the mainstream media just doesn't cover. And sometimes

13:21

that soft bias, they just don't get it. They don't

13:24

care. And sometimes it's hard bias

13:26

where they they do get it and they are against

13:28

us. But in this case, it's a story that's

13:30

being given very little attention. But we're

13:32

leading on it. And that is um, there

13:35

is a, there is a there is Israel has

13:37

been rattled to its core. October

13:39

7th. October 6th, we

13:41

thought as a country, gosh, we've made

13:44

four new peace treaties, uh, the

13:46

Abraham Accords with our Arab neighbors,

13:48

uh, President Trump helping broker

13:50

those. Um, we've got we look like

13:52

we were going to be making peace with the Saudis. Things

13:54

are good. It's not perfect, but we're Jews.

13:56

We get it. There's some people who hate us.

13:59

Um, but we're happy that more and more people like us and are

14:01

welcoming us to the neighborhood, right? Yep. That.

14:03

But we. But we got blindsided on

14:06

October 7th by the invasion of Hamas.

14:08

1200 Jews murdered people, their

14:10

heads chopped off. Uh, you know, people burned alive

14:12

in their homes. What happened is,

14:14

I believe that was part of,

14:17

um, what the Hebrew

14:19

prophet Amos wrote in ancient

14:21

times in Amos nine

14:23

nine, uh, chapter nine, verse nine,

14:25

and in which God says that in the last days

14:27

he's going to shake the

14:30

house of Israel among the nations.

14:32

And why would he do that? Uh, and

14:34

he would do that, meaning God

14:36

did not send Hamas terrorists to

14:38

to butcher us. But God is our shepherd,

14:41

as David tells us in

14:43

Psalm 23. Right. But if but

14:46

if you're a sheep or a nation

14:48

of sheep, and you have a this all

14:50

natural, all powerful, supernatural shepherd

14:53

and you abandon him. It's

14:55

not that he's sending savage wolves

14:57

to eat you, to attack you,

15:00

but he's not. You're

15:02

not letting him protect you. You're wandering

15:04

out of the fold, and

15:06

and and a lot of Orthodox

15:08

religious Jews after the seventh

15:11

began getting angry and saying, how is this even

15:13

possible? I mean, if there's a God and he loves

15:15

us, where was he? That's

15:18

a fair question, a big question. Another

15:20

response. Right. There's a lot of secular

15:22

Israelis or traditional meaning

15:25

by the Christian standards, we'd say Easter

15:27

and Christmas. Uh, Christians, you know, people

15:29

who just go to church on the High Holidays, as it were.

15:31

There are many Jews that are traditional, but they're not

15:34

particularly spiritual. They're they don't really read the Bible.

15:36

They don't have a relationship with God through

15:38

his son, Yeshua Jesus. But

15:40

they were rattled too. And they

15:43

they are they're many of them are having an opposite

15:45

reaction. They're like, wow, I think we're off

15:47

the team. We're off the reservation. If

15:49

there's a God in Israel, maybe we ought to pay attention

15:51

to him. Maybe we ought to turn and start

15:53

reading the Bible. Um,

15:55

and considering how far

15:57

off the mark we really are, that

16:00

is something that we've been covering. I will give credit to

16:02

The Jerusalem Post. In fact, your producer,

16:04

uh, offline, just mentioned a story,

16:06

uh, during during the Iranian attacks that

16:08

I didn't actually see. It was in the Jerusalem Post that

16:11

the number one most searched, uh,

16:13

topic the night of the Iranian

16:15

missile attack was, uh, the

16:18

Hebrew word tehilim, which means the Psalms.

16:21

Uh, so people were searching for

16:23

hope and they thought, well, maybe there

16:25

is hope in the Bible, particularly

16:28

in the Book of Psalms. And I hope they found themselves

16:31

in, uh, Psalm 23, right

16:33

where the Lord is our shepherd, and

16:35

he he wants to help us walk

16:37

through the valley of the shadow of death

16:39

and not fear evil. But we

16:42

need to. We, like sheep, have gone astray.

16:44

Isaiah 53. So we need to get back

16:46

under the, uh, the protection

16:48

and the care and the comfort of

16:51

the great Shepherd. And of course, we know that Jesus

16:53

himself fulfills those prophecies

16:56

and is described in the New Testament

16:58

as not only the the good Shepherd, but

17:00

the great Shepherd and the chief shepherd

17:02

of our souls. One step at a time.

17:04

First, Israelis have to get back to believing

17:07

there is a God, that he might love us,

17:09

that he might have a plan for us and want to protect

17:11

us, and that there's a way to know

17:13

him and then turn to the Bible. And

17:15

only then can I think your heart

17:18

begin to open to well, did

17:20

he already send the Messiah? Are the Christians right? Are

17:22

the Messianic Jews right? So that is a

17:24

fascinating story that

17:26

we're hearing repeated all over the country.

17:29

I don't want to say that you're seeing thousands

17:31

or millions of Israeli Jews come

17:33

to faith in Jesus yet. But

17:36

there is a curiosity, a hunger, a

17:38

a conversation going

17:40

on in Israel that I have not seen. And I've

17:42

been coming in and out of this country for 37

17:44

years, and I've been a citizen,

17:47

uh, dual US Israeli citizen for

17:49

ten. Um, and I've

17:51

never seen anything like this, and nor have the pastors that,

17:53

uh, that I know and, and I'm interviewing.

17:55

You know, it's a reason for the church

17:57

to be praying that, you know, revival

18:00

might break out in Israel and people would

18:02

come to know Jesus as a messiah.

18:05

Um, Joel, just the

18:07

Israeli mindset by default. If there is

18:09

a spiritual curiosity, an awakening to

18:11

the fact that maybe we have abandoned

18:13

God, and that

18:16

is part of the reason that, you know, he's removed his

18:18

hand of protection from us. Is the

18:20

natural inclination then going to be,

18:22

you think, to turn to the Old Testament

18:24

scriptures? Or would there also

18:26

potentially be a curiosity

18:28

about the New Testament as well? Or will the

18:31

default mindset be. No, we're just going to look

18:33

at the Old Testament, if anything.

18:35

Well, you all I mean, I think

18:37

a Jewish person default setting is if I'm going to

18:40

think about God at all, I'm going to go to the hometown

18:42

team, I'm going to go to the the book that I know

18:44

is supposed to be ours, whether I've been reading it

18:46

faithfully or not. Maybe I

18:48

ought to start there, you know. Yeah, you go to

18:51

you go to mom's cookbook, maybe to start

18:53

when you're starting to learn to cook. Maybe you don't, you

18:55

know, go by, I don't know, uh,

18:57

Joanna Gaines or whatever at first, maybe, I

18:59

don't know, but the point is, uh, that's more

19:01

my reference to my wife. But anyway,

19:05

I'm not the cook in the family, but I. But

19:07

but what we're also seeing

19:09

in from pastors and

19:11

and messianic and evangelical ministry leaders

19:13

all up and down the country, I've been all over this country,

19:16

uh, over the last six months interviewing people, sitting with

19:18

people, uh, Lynn, my wife and

19:20

I have listening, talking. What

19:22

are you seeing? At first it was anger and

19:24

shock, but over the last 3 or 4

19:26

months, we're hearing more and more pastors

19:29

and ministry leaders say people want

19:31

to talk about God. They want to start in the

19:33

Old Testament. Yes, but they're

19:35

actually curious. Yeah. What

19:38

is it possible? And we are

19:40

sharing and they are listening in at

19:42

a, at a depth and a level

19:44

that we haven't seen before. Now

19:46

it's part of a larger trend maybe over the last

19:49

15 years or so. There's definitely

19:52

been a much greater openness

19:54

to, uh, to

19:56

at least being friendly towards a Jewish

19:58

believer in Jesus and not thinking they're a cult member.

20:01

Uh, there's a growing I would say there's a spirit

20:03

of tolerance, a breeze

20:06

going through the country now in the United States.

20:08

I think that that's an evil, uh,

20:10

wind, because tolerance

20:12

is away from let's let's

20:14

consider openness to things that are not

20:16

the Bible, not the. Christian. But in Israel,

20:19

when you've got people lost and not

20:21

paying attention to God, the spirit of tolerance

20:23

says, maybe I don't have to listen to the

20:25

rabbis that are telling me never. It's not Jesus.

20:28

Anybody but Jesus. Don't go there.

20:30

That breeze is also blowing through the Muslim world,

20:32

where the Muslim clerics have been saying, you

20:34

know, Jesus is the he's

20:37

a messiah, but he's not God. He didn't die on a cross.

20:39

He didn't rise from the dead. And more and more

20:41

Muslims are like, I'm done with Islam. I've seen

20:43

the violence, I've seen the corruption, the

20:46

cruelty. I'm looking

20:48

elsewhere. And so there's

20:51

something going on and that is

20:53

healthy. It's not perfect, but it's

20:55

but it's healthy.

20:56

Well, Joel Rosenberg with us talking

20:58

about what's been going on in Israel as of

21:00

late and just kind of the spiritual curiosity

21:02

and openness that they're seeing there, and a reason

21:04

for us to be praying that God's

21:06

Spirit would be at work drawing,

21:09

uh, Jews to himself and that they would come to

21:11

know Jesus as Messiah. Connecting you with Joel

21:13

through our Facebook page. Or

21:15

go directly to Joel rosenberg.com.

21:18

We've got Joel Rosenberg with us this hour.

21:20

He's the New York Times best selling author,

21:22

founder and editor in chief of some

21:24

news websites and analysis websites

21:26

like All israel.com and host of

21:28

the Rosenberg Report, linking you to all

21:30

of that through our Facebook page. Don Steve

21:32

in the morning, Joel. And our last few moments that

21:35

we have together here, thinking about how

21:37

we're seeing here in the United States and I think in

21:39

other countries around the world, an increase

21:42

of people who are having these pro-hamas

21:45

protests, uh, US universities,

21:48

Columbia and others who are

21:50

having to deal with this. And

21:52

what are your thoughts when you are seeing

21:55

a generation of people

21:58

who are saying, you know, we see the news

22:00

headlines, but we're going to promote Hamas

22:02

over Israel here.

22:05

Well, it's very disturbing. Steve. Uh, I

22:07

think something was really unleashed

22:09

in in in the heavenly realms,

22:12

um, in the dark forces,

22:14

um, on October 7th, it wasn't just

22:17

an invasion of of demon possessed

22:19

terrorists coming into Israel. And there's no other

22:21

way. Nobody can chop off the head of a baby and

22:23

rape girls and burn people

22:25

alive in their homes. And,

22:27

you know, as a normal person. But

22:30

it seems to have unleashed a darkness,

22:33

a demonic, anti-Semitic,

22:35

Jew hatred globally.

22:38

Um, and the fact that young

22:40

people in the United States on college campuses

22:42

are particularly vulnerable, I think, is what

22:44

we're seeing. I mean, that's the only I think that's the right

22:46

conclusion to draw, just analytically.

22:49

Um, and I think

22:52

it's very, very dangerous. Look, you know,

22:54

the president of Columbia University, uh,

22:56

Doctor Shafik, she needs to step down immediately.

22:58

She's completely let one

23:01

of the premier universities in the world, which

23:03

okay, liberal and but but you could you

23:05

could still get a good education. But now,

23:07

uh, Jews aren't even safe to be on

23:09

campus. Right. And again,

23:11

I did this whole I did my whole show this

23:13

week, uh, for the Rosenberg Report on

23:15

TBN, on this, on this issue.

23:17

It is sickening. It is metastasizing.

23:20

It's a cancer and it's getting worse.

23:22

And leaders have to step up,

23:25

uh, Christian, Jewish and just,

23:27

you know, leaders of any background and say this

23:29

is unacceptable. Imagine if these attacks were against

23:31

black people or against Hispanics or against Asians.

23:34

Yeah. When you put

23:36

it in that way, it really is a

23:38

head scratcher for people to say that that

23:41

has to be a spiritual

23:43

component to this, the fact that, you know,

23:45

God's chosen people, uh, are

23:47

going to have a real big target on their back by the

23:49

enemy. Do you see this in

23:51

any way kind of tied to prophecy?

23:54

I do, Steve. You know. Uh, the Bible

23:56

is clear in many

23:59

passages, old and New Testament that as you

24:01

get closer to the end of days,

24:03

uh, then you're going to have people

24:06

turning against you, specifically turning against

24:08

Israel, either abandoning Israel when others

24:10

attack, uh, or actually

24:12

all nations are going to form together

24:14

a coalition and attack Israel. Uh, that's

24:17

what the battle of Armageddon is. That's the

24:19

final battles of the Antichrist taking

24:21

over Israel in the last day. Like,

24:23

and, you know, Zechariah 12

24:25

talks about, you know, the genocide

24:27

of two thirds of the Jewish people on the earth.

24:29

Why? Okay, the short version

24:32

is John 1010, uh,

24:35

illuminates this. Why? Because Jesus

24:37

calls Satan a thief and he says, the

24:39

thief comes to rob, kill, and destroy. And of

24:41

course, Jesus came to bring life and bring it abundantly.

24:43

So you see that Jesus and Satan

24:45

are opposite. They're not equal, but they're opposite. So

24:48

everything that God wants and

24:50

is for Satan is against by definition.

24:52

So when God says, I love the Jewish

24:54

people and I want to bless them, Satan

24:57

says, fine, I'll curse them. When

24:59

God says, I'm going to give this chosen people

25:01

a promised Land, Satan says, fine, I'll

25:03

take it away. When God says, I'm going to make

25:05

Jerusalem the city of peace, Satan says, I'm going to

25:07

make it a city of bloodshed. When God

25:10

says, I'm going to make the Temple Mount holy

25:12

to my name, Satan says, I'm going to desecrate

25:14

it and eventually create the abomination

25:17

that causes desolation. So that's what's

25:19

happening. Satan is alive

25:21

and well so far, and he has

25:23

been unleashed. And that means God is allowing

25:26

it sovereignly to happen. But this

25:28

is where Christians have to stand in

25:30

the spirit, in in principle,

25:32

in the word, and stand against such evil.

25:34

Teach our children, our young people,

25:37

um, that there are consequences.

25:39

You're not. It's not a it's not a like I

25:41

want to walk with the Lord, but no, I, I'm just going

25:43

to walk around in the world. It doesn't really matter. If I

25:46

walk with Jesus, I'm fine.

25:48

Then it's not just Israel. It's also

25:50

all of our young people. All people are

25:52

wandering around without their shepherd

25:54

in a world of savage wolves and

25:56

of demon activity.

25:59

Yeah. And and people are

26:01

vulnerable. And that's the shortest

26:03

way I can explain what we're watching

26:05

and why we need to go to battle stations.

26:07

And I don't mean our battles not against

26:09

flesh and blood. Right. But we it's a spiritual

26:12

battle. But we have to show practical

26:14

leadership. Yeah, well.

26:15

I so appreciate that, uh, battle on our

26:17

knees to be in prayer, to be praying for the peace

26:20

of Jerusalem, for Israel, that,

26:22

uh, you know, we would step into

26:24

this great need to use

26:27

our voices and use our influence and

26:29

really talk about what is true

26:31

and bring the light of Scripture, uh,

26:33

to as many people as possible. Joel, so

26:35

appreciate your time that you've given us this

26:37

morning. Uh, this is Brandon

26:39

Heath. See me through it. You

26:41

want to connect with Joel? We're linking you through our Facebook

26:43

page, Don Steve in the morning or Joel Rosenberg.

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