This week's guest is senior writer for The Undefeated and new author Jesse Washington. He is the co-author of the late great Coach John Thompson's book "I Came As A Shadow." Here we talk with Washington about how the book came together and some of the highlights of working closely with a sports and culture icon. We also get into his history as a Hip-Hop journalist and hooper as well.

2:45 - Jesse talks about how the opportunity to write Coach Thompson's book came to him. He shares what it was like meeting with him for the first interview and how his own hoop background got him on Coach's good side.

7:20 - Jesse shares some of his favorite Coach Thompson quotables. He also talks about Coach's eagerness to work on the book and how the book isn’t about just basketball. 

14:00 - Jesse speaks on finishing the book before Coach's passing away earlier this year. He says Coach told him "you did a good job boy." He also talks about approaching the book as an "act of service" to make sure his story was told from his perspective.

18:15 - Branden brings light to the fact that in the 1980's during "Hoyas Paranoia" many people thought that Georgetown's majority Black team was an HBCU (which it is not). Jesse speaks on his personal experience seeing it himself growing. 

20:40 - Jesse explains the meaning behind the title of the book and how it was inspired by poetry from one of Thompson’s uncles.

24:30 - Jesse was editor-in-chief at late 90s Hip Hop magazine BLAZE, that was an offshoot of VIBE. Here he talks about his time running magazine and some of the innovative ideas he was able to execute while there. 

30:24 - Jesse is currently a writer at The Undefeated where sports and Black culture intersect. Here he talks about the joys of writing for such a unique space for this generation. He also talks about the time he was able to hoop against a Twitter troll who was critiquing his writing and basketball knowledge.  

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