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Changed. So the Brely today,
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like, there's a new trajectory for me
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that's happening right now, live and
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in person, y'all take a pitch Mhmm. Because this is
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what I look like, single, but it ain't gonna be for
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long. Talking about cell phones out.
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Talking about Because yeah.
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Like, different energy
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is showing up, but I know it's
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because I changed. Yeah.
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So so you know that. I'm I'm
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one hundred percent. Okay. So when we look
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back, you were married before. Right? I
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said I I said yes to someone.
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I had said yes or something. Brandon, why would you say
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you don't call that being mad? Well,
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I never imagined my public healing
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would inspire others to heal across the
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world. I think if I're using him,
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to reach the world with
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the message of hope and
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relationships. But your life
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does not. God. You are my
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publicist. We
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laugh. We share
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the unadulterated truth. He
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said, not only have I not divorced you,
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I ain't exposed you. Oh. We
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didn't marry fans. We married forever. And
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we wanted forever to act like a fan. feel
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her Jesus. I will not
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compromise. Mhmm. I'm getting
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a woman
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guy. You don't have to. And father,
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I declare for his future
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wifey. Thank you
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for preserving her.
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This season, I declare miracles
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and manifestation. Did you sell it scripts.
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And you're unique. You ain't like nobody else. I
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I noticed that right away. You being
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true to who you are, you're gonna attract.
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It's a Hebrew word, Haile, and it was
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translated well that it means
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people, it means men, it
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means resources, and it means means.
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I'm the Wifey and this
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is the Deer Future Wifey podcast. Welcome
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to the Deer Future Wifi podcast. I'm your host
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Listen to season six. Oh, man, we've been
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rocking. God has affectionately
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named this season miracles
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and manifestations and god has been doing exactly
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that. And so I've
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been fast and I've been praying to get this guest
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in the podcast. She's been riding. Yeah.
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She's a running. She's a track star. So
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that's just what it is. And so after about
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a year in that half. Well, two years.
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So two years of tracking her down, she finally
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I mean, it was sounds where she was supposed to
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do the episode that day why she was
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in town and just, you
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know, some happened and she couldn't do it. And
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then I was gonna come and then the weather Wait. Sorry
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to introduce you. You
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know what? I'll get up. When king
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speak. Queen's
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fishing. So without further ado, welcome to
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the future wave of podcast, bye, homie.
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Bye the end. What's that?
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Yeah. I wanna give you an offensive point of
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giving a a offensive introduction. Well,
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thank
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you. appreciate the offensive. We ain't a offensive. We
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you know? No way back.
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Yeah. But what we gotta talk about so, Brandy, why
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have you been avoiding doing this episode? Wasn't
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avoiding this episode? No.
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No. No.
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You but why don't you tell me no then? Well,
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because You have my yes.
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But God has your number. But God has a timing
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for a thing. You can't mess with his
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timing. His timing is, I don't know. You
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know? I don't create the
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time. He says the time. Like, the weather
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wouldn't let
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me. Come on. Last
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month, but I'm talking about about six months ago.
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The timing -- Again. -- you
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right here in Dallas? I mean. You were supposed
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to be
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caught up by Saturday. You
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know what had to happen? You had to come get me.
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Explain to the people what they what you mean, but I had
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to come get you. Well, I said, and you want me
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to come on this podcast, you need to fly to LA
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or Atlanta wherever I am. Get on the
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plane with me and come and did you do that this
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morning? By default, what happened was
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you had me come do your When Kings
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speak event and
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and then I stayed there to do some other
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people's podcast or whatnot. then what did you do this
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morning? Back to what I just say? We flew
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from Atlanta to Dallas. You came and
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got
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me. On the same
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plane. There you go. You
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came and got me.
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And now I'm here. She's talking about you got to come
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get me and be a general. I said,
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who's gonna come fly? And I
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said, I'm not gonna go fly and come get you and
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then you will lie about it.
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The standard. Come on. What's that? So
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What is your standard?
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So it's a standard. So on a
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on a platonic level If that's what
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I need it. Then you should say, you know what's
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this? I got you. If it's gonna be you know
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what I'm
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saying? Fly
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to another city to bring to bring like
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it did. Mhmm. You see you see how Jesus
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has made that thing happen. You gotta be careful around
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me because what I say, this is the miracles
4:41
of manifestation. Yeah. I'm a miracle of
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manifestation sitting right here. Oh,
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no. I'm a little nerd. Okay. I'm good. You
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got to make sure my wind tight is
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homeboy back there. haven't seen
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I was, you know, this yellow
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couch. I was I had to come get on my
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knees y'all. You come here.
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Pray Pray before. Pray before.
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Pray before he has Pray. Okay. I'll put one
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in first. Be like, my number you
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know, SIM block's blessings, so I didn't know what you've been
5:06
doing. So I was like, let me breathe first
5:08
because yeah. Brely.
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So I asked you what we should call this
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episode and we said we're just gonna
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rock with it. We're gonna find out
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Yeah. -- what what we talk about. And
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and then we'll come up with the title afterwards.
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I I think so.
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Okay. So who is Bradley
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Evans? Who is Bradley Evans?
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I mean, Bradley
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Evans, she is a a wow.
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She's a wow. She's a wow. walking on
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walks. Oh, you
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better. Come on somebody. How do you
5:40
say I know you? She's a walking. Like,
5:42
is a while. I mean, I am
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I think I'm here. My purpose is
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to free people. Freedom
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out of bondage of nine to five jobs
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to live out loud as a curvy girl.
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To be unapologetically myself,
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and that helps free other people. So I'm just
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here. I am the freer.
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Is that is that a word? Is that an adjective? We can
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make it. Well, there it is. There it is. Yeah. That's
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what I will call myself. Where
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would people recognize you
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from? They they
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may see you in black. She looks so familiar. Who
6:15
is it? Who is it? Y'all know y'all saw these hips
6:17
on ambitions
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on our own mind. Hell, my
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soul. Give me the give me the network.
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Jesus. I'm bringing back.
6:26
Bring back. Okay, man.
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Mirrors and manifestations. There's a manifestations.
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There's a bed ambitions. Family
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business. I
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mean, cold and windy. Okay.
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The Christmas movie
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yeah. I can't buy Christmas --
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Yeah. -- being Mary Jane for those of you go back
6:44
to the beginning of my career. I love it.
6:46
Yeah. I have over eighty
6:48
shows, so those are the ones that you
6:50
guys probably know the most. Yeah. I've
6:52
been here. And so
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you were telling me earlier today,
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of
6:57
how, like, you sat down and
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you literally you untapped with the brown.
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Y'all actually
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manifested this career that y'all
7:04
both had. When I said, so we met in
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acting class. And we
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were putting a scene together to work on
7:11
a scene, and we felt and we were like, oh, you might oh,
7:13
we family. Yeah. And so we used to have these
7:15
Sunday family dinners, and
7:18
we used to sit on the couch and talk
7:20
about one day we gonna be so busy.
7:22
We don't need to see each other. Now we'd be like, We'll
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see each other. We'll see each So we
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knew that these days were coming in here
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they
7:30
are. Yeah. So So how
7:33
do you feel? How does Brinkley feel right
7:35
now in twenty twenty three? When you look
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at your life,
7:39
your career, you look at your love
7:41
Wifey, how do you feel? When I look at my
7:43
career, I'm so
7:45
astonished in, like, Is
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this really
7:48
me? Like, I'm really on TV. Like, I get up and
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do this every, like, the
7:51
the I'm really an actress. Like, when people
7:53
when I'm walking outside, it's almost like, I'm
7:56
like, people -- People know why. --
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names. So I'm still
8:00
surprised every day. I'm still a fan
8:02
of the craft. I'm still in
8:05
awe of this whole thing. It doesn't
8:07
make any sense, to be honest.
8:11
Love Laura,
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what we're doing? Because I don't now that I don't
8:15
get. Now I am the master
8:18
manifestor when it comes to being
8:20
on TV --
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Yeah. -- I can help people. Like I said, I am
8:23
my mom nonprofit organization has called
8:25
from nine to five to wow. So I'm helping
8:27
people come on, get out of there, get out the boat
8:29
on your hopes and your dreams. I'm about to
8:31
preach you down and do all the things. But
8:34
soon as love comes into this thing, I'll be like,
8:36
no. No. No. No. What did I need to do?
8:39
So yeah. I I feel I'm not
8:41
as you know, my
8:43
strength is not as, you know,
8:45
strong in the love department for some reason.
8:48
No. No. We say for some reason, when
8:50
you reverse engineer this thing,
8:52
what do you think is the main problem? Do you
8:54
feel like just is it one of those things you
8:56
say men aren't showing up? As a
8:58
lot of women I was complaining about
9:00
is men? Viable, you
9:03
know, candidates aren't stepping up to
9:05
the table or what?
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Well, I can't say that any longer.
9:08
Yeah. Yeah. Because the candidates then got
9:10
a little bit better than changing a little bit in your life,
9:13
mom. Yeah. The candidates, I'm like, What?
9:16
You're a who? You do what? Okay,
9:19
God. I see you. Awesome. So I
9:21
I really think that I've changed. So
9:24
the Brely today, like, there's new
9:26
trajectory for me that's happening
9:28
right now, live and in person, y'all take a pitch
9:31
Mhmm. Because this is what I look like, single, but it ain't
9:33
gonna be prolonged.
9:34
Talking about cell phones out. Talking about
9:37
Because yeah. Like, different
9:40
energy is showing
9:41
up, but I know it's because
9:43
I changed. Yeah.
9:45
So so you know that. I'm I'm
9:47
one hundred percent. Okay. So when we look
9:49
back, you were married before. Right? I
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said, I I said, yes to someone.
9:56
I had said yes or something. Brandon, why would you say
9:58
you don't call that being married?
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Well, I
10:03
mean?
10:04
You said yes to them in what fashion?
10:06
I said yes. When somebody asked me a question, I
10:08
said yes.
10:08
What question to ask you, Brandon? Well, they said
10:11
you know, will you do a whole bunch of these things?
10:13
And I said yes. So when
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I said yes, I met what I said.
10:17
But what that I was supposed to get on
10:19
the other hand. I don't think I had one
10:21
of those
10:22
things. Said,
10:22
yes. When they asked you, would you do AAA bunch of
10:24
these things? Yeah. They were like, will you have and
10:26
hold and honor and do all those things that
10:28
I said, guess. So the man I said
10:30
yes to. There was a man that I had said yes to
10:33
one time. And then and
10:35
then You said no
10:37
to You said you you guys turned to a
10:39
no? Well, I turned to an a no mint.
10:41
So I don't know they said that don't
10:43
count. A no mint doesn't count.
10:46
That's what they said. So how
10:48
long y'all married?
10:48
They were married a half.
10:50
Married a year and a half. Yeah. So what made
10:52
you married? How did you meet this this individual?
10:54
We were introduced, and I think it's the
10:56
best thing to be introduced.
10:58
How do they do that? Right. My
11:00
PR person at the time said,
11:03
I know someone. And I was
11:05
like, how tall is he? You
11:07
know, where he worked? I was like, I just knew it was
11:09
gonna be a bus. She was like, no. You're gonna be pull you're
11:11
not gonna be pleasantly surprised. He's amazing.
11:14
She didn't she thought he didn't have any children. You
11:16
know? So I was like, okay. You know, I'm
11:18
big. I'm almost some babies and all that.
11:20
So she showed me a picture that said.
11:23
What? What about the line? Because he
11:26
bought his curly and cute and
11:28
fine. It was and tall
11:30
and all the things I have got for.
11:33
And she said he he told her
11:36
if this girl loves the Lord,
11:38
I'm gonna marry her. I
11:40
could've got married that
11:41
day. When she told me he said,
11:44
he was a boy. Yeah.
11:46
Baby, I was like, bark like a dog.
11:50
Big dog. Up on one leg.
11:52
Baby, hop on one leg. What you want me to
11:54
do? So that's what happened.
11:56
We got introduced by my PR at the
11:58
time. And she had raving reviews
12:00
and people around who knew him
12:03
also gave some raving reviews
12:05
of this
12:05
guy. And so I was
12:07
sold to the man in gold.
12:09
So yeah. So
12:12
he had a good, you know He had a good
12:15
Repensation. Yeah. Repensation. Most certainly
12:17
did. And how long y'all date?
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For for a year. It was, like, a year
12:21
and then, like, I've heard and
12:24
I I come from the school of
12:26
be engaged or in
12:28
love with or like with someone as long as
12:30
it take to plan the marriage to plan the wedding. Yeah.
12:32
Because, I mean, I can't lie. You know, we was
12:36
we're trying to get married
12:37
tomorrow. Okay. We got some things
12:40
new. So Bandwidth.
12:41
Bandwidth things I have to
12:43
do. Baby. Come on now.
12:45
Use your imagination.
12:46
Well, no. Were you were you planning on just waiting for
12:48
mares to have sex? I really wanted to do
12:50
that. That that that was the thing. And so
12:52
we need to get mad, get down head on out,
12:54
and oh, wow. We need to get down head on pretty quickly.
12:57
No. It wasn't really to me. It was that. But
12:59
it was also It was it was good, but
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I come from a
13:03
two parent home. My mom and
13:06
my dad are still together today and
13:08
I know always it hasn't been easy.
13:10
And my father has expressed, we
13:13
do this, you know, it's we do this because
13:15
of you, but this is our standard
13:18
for you. So I
13:20
have not had any children out of wedlock because
13:22
it's my personal standard. Right. You know,
13:24
I've seen some of my family members struggle
13:26
in that area and they didn't make it look pretty.
13:28
So I wasn't running out to go
13:31
do the same thing and, you know, although
13:33
I may have had opportunity, I still was
13:35
like, not dog. Yeah. You know,
13:37
you don't you see a burning house. You ain't running in
13:39
it. You know, I'm I just couldn't and then
13:41
I just felt like it would be a slap in god's
13:43
face to me. That if I say,
13:45
I'm a do this and I'm a need you to help me take
13:48
care. just couldn't I you know? Yeah.
13:50
I just personally couldn't do it. So
13:52
I really want to be married and do things
13:55
that way. I'm the same girl who's going to
13:57
Catholic school, who then went to performing
13:59
arts. High school, who then went
14:01
to college, who then graduated, who
14:04
then, you know, got her first record
14:06
deal, who then left
14:08
the record industry and then, you
14:10
know, was on every TV show. I have
14:13
done things right in an order in
14:15
my professional life. Yeah. But
14:17
be there. This love thing.
14:19
Where are where are the classes at? Where
14:22
are they teaching these men and women how to
14:24
date? What are they doing at? So Yeah.
14:27
So that's kind of you know what I'm saying? So that kinda
14:29
tells you my background answer. Wifey was
14:31
like, we ain't about to sitting around here engaged
14:33
for
14:33
us. Yeah. Bidding her lemons. Yeah.
14:36
You know? Well, I agree to I mean, I agree
14:38
with the same thing. I don't believe it takes a long time.
14:40
No. And especially when you get
14:42
to a certain age. You know what you desire.
14:45
You know what you want. You've dated people. And
14:47
you're just like, I'm I'm I'm through with all the nonsense.
14:49
I'm not gonna be dating you for two years and then
14:51
decide whether or not we're gonna get married and then you start
14:53
the whole cycle over
14:54
again. And
14:55
can I tell you this? I knew
14:57
that I wanted to marry him after
14:59
one of our arguments.
15:01
That's good. But I was like,
15:04
he doesn't make me wanna get up and beat the hell
15:06
out of him. Because
15:08
I'm from Oakland. And she got,
15:10
you know, that thing. My day told me the
15:12
bigger day on a hundred feet
15:13
tall. So I'm like, I'm hard
15:16
to fight.
15:16
You had to fight. But he we were doing a little
15:18
thing, and I said, my heart isn't
15:20
racing, and I can
15:22
really I can think. We
15:24
can I can say when you're done, we can talk
15:26
about it? Then
15:29
later on, I found out, she were like,
15:31
that meant you had grown. That didn't
15:33
mean he was the one. I was like, oh, man. I
15:35
wish somebody told me that. Not that I'm
15:37
serious. I was so it was
15:39
because of that because someone told me before you
15:41
marry. You see a man in all
15:43
sense. Right? Yes.
15:45
Mad, happy, sad, you know, excited
15:47
and see all of it. Right? And when
15:49
I
15:49
got to the artist Anger part,
15:51
and I didn't, like, get up and, like, square
15:54
up on it, I was like, oh, he
15:56
brings the
15:56
feminine. You know what I'm saying? Oh, my feminine
15:59
Wifey I'm here.
16:00
That's good. This is the one. So I just knew.
16:02
And I really asked God. How
16:04
about this? How about when you asked God?
16:06
And I mean, asked God. We went to premarital
16:09
counseling and the our pastor,
16:11
it was his pastor. Which is our was
16:14
our pastor of God, said well,
16:16
I need y'all to fast and pray seriously. And
16:18
so we did. And I was like, God,
16:20
you got to show me, like, I want them kids
16:23
that need to break. Yeah. You know them kids?
16:25
Yeah. And so things were showing
16:27
up. Can I just tell you this? I
16:30
got it was time
16:32
to, you know, get birth certificates out and do
16:34
all that stuff. Well, utilize
16:35
them. In in a child, I found out
16:38
his name went even his name.
16:40
Brely, what are you talking about? His
16:43
name that I call him was not the
16:45
name on the paper. And I said, wait
16:47
a minute. But the cool part about it, what
16:49
what gave me solace was the
16:51
name on the paper was, like,
16:55
so close to my father's name. It
16:57
was it was, like, my dad's first name is
16:59
Karl. So we'd had Karl in the name
17:01
and then the middle name was the exact same
17:04
Frederick, and then the last name
17:06
started with an e. So my you
17:08
know -- Yeah. -- I was like, And so I took
17:10
a picture of it sitting to my mom. And my
17:12
mom said, what you doing with your daddy? Birth certificate.
17:14
And I said, exactly. That's
17:17
years later. Mom's in love,
17:19
Jesus. I said, yeah, his mom changed his
17:21
name to what it is, like, you know,
17:23
a couple years later. So
17:25
I felt like this is my guy
17:28
because I'm a Daddy's girl. I look y'all
17:30
look y'all daddies. What a Daddy's girl's name?
17:32
I love my dad. So I was like, But
17:35
y'all have a name so simple. This
17:37
is God -- Crazy. -- signs saying move
17:39
forward. And although I do
17:41
believe God told me to do this, I
17:43
I really fasted. I really prayed. I
17:46
was really serious about this and
17:49
the lesson. God
17:52
may tell us to do some things, but
17:55
it don't mean it's don't turn out the way we think.
17:57
Facts. Because I believe that experience
18:02
is birthing some things that are bigger
18:05
than me. Yeah. And so if I had
18:07
to do it again, I don't want to. But
18:10
I trust God so much that
18:13
I believe he sent me on this path
18:15
to again set some people free. And
18:18
he knows he can trust me with
18:20
a not so not
18:22
so good feeling situation He
18:25
knew I'm a keep a smile on my face. He knew
18:27
I'm a show
18:27
up. He knew I'm a be loud about it.
18:30
And now is the time?
18:33
So you look back at that situation. You feel
18:35
like and you feel like it was ordained
18:37
by God. I have to believe it.
18:41
I have to believe I literally asked. I did.
18:43
Now were there girlfriend saying? Mm-mm. Actually,
18:49
the after so when the pastor gave
18:51
us the thumbs up because you know what? We did the eight weeks
18:53
thing. And I mean, we did all of that. The
18:56
pastor said, okay. You know, yes,
18:58
we're moving forward with this. I got
19:00
call from pastor's wife. He's
19:04
Brely, young lady. I know what
19:07
my husband said, but he not ready.
19:09
I would hit a bass. I I would my
19:11
shepherd said, my
19:15
side is twenty twenty. Did
19:19
she just say that or did she point out some
19:21
key things? Maybe she called me on the phone and
19:23
said, some young lady. She didn't
19:25
point out anything. I See,
19:27
I didn't need people to tell me what it is.
19:29
But I think I knew. But
19:32
I was committed to listening to the pastor.
19:34
I know what I want it. I really wanted to
19:37
be married. And First
19:39
of all, I had never dated a guy who had
19:41
his own church home. Sorry,
19:45
I just didn't attract those at time, I guess. I don't
19:47
know. All I know is when that brother
19:49
said, let's go to my church this Sunday.
19:51
And he said, you got church? You mean you? But
19:54
what? Honey, I pulled out Sunday's best,
19:56
baby. I was like, let go. We
19:58
pull up to the church. We walk in,
20:01
and the church is a small church. The
20:03
pastor's already pooped it with a little late.
20:05
And he goes, oh, he brought a
20:07
girl to church. I'm looking like I'm on
20:09
TV, man. The whole church's looking bad.
20:12
was like, father God. So
20:15
I was just I've never had that experience.
20:17
Your pastor know your name. Oh,
20:19
oh, you in here in here? You don't just go
20:21
to church. Yeah. But they know you.
20:23
I was I was smitten. I was like,
20:26
this is good. It makes sense
20:27
though. I mean, all that makes sense that that
20:29
would be something that's cosigning. Yeah.
20:33
A part of it? Yeah.
20:35
Have absolutely. And so when the first
20:37
lady said when she said you just felt like
20:40
what? I just felt like III
20:43
tried I couldn't even consider it because I feel
20:45
like her husband was the
20:46
authority.
20:46
But you said but you you saw some things too.
20:49
I mean, hindsight,
20:50
Oh, okay. But at some point, you said that you I
20:52
mean, a lot of things go. And here here's
20:54
where I believe it's
20:58
important for me to be on this couch. I
21:00
believe it's important for me to remind
21:03
because I think we we know a lot of
21:06
these these things. When you see a
21:08
magenta flag. I
21:10
know what they read. Oh,
21:12
but baby when it's magenta. Wennis
21:15
pink. When
21:17
it's off white.
21:23
It's a no. My act yeah.
21:26
Because I saw some things, but I figured
21:28
everyone needs an opportunity to grow.
21:30
Right. You know, you
21:32
pick your battles. Nothing's perfect. I was
21:34
saying all of those things. Nobody's
21:36
perfect. But, you know, they're perfect
21:38
for me. Yeah. I was saying all the things.
21:41
But there are just some key points
21:43
in Wifey that you have to look at.
21:46
You gotta say, oh, you gotta go to shoes.
21:48
That mean he'll buy me some. But
21:51
when the shoes ain't quite goochie
21:54
and and they you know, but I'm thinking, oh, he's
21:56
frugal. Oh, that's so cool. Like,
21:59
you know, when when when when the car,
22:01
you know, is from the nineteen hundreds.
22:04
Okay. I mean, in in
22:06
my line, when the cars were nineteen hundreds, I
22:08
was like, oh, but he's kept it up.
22:10
It's still running well. You know?
22:14
It's a good car. I
22:15
should say nineteen hundred. But my thing
22:17
is, ladies, when you see when he
22:19
has a nice car, he he might buy you
22:21
one. But when he doesn't, is
22:25
not gonna happen. You know?
22:27
So it's like it'll just these little
22:30
things that I just kept saying, well, I'm not gold
22:32
digger, so it doesn't matter like that I
22:34
don't care about material to old baby.
22:36
God got me right together on the material things.
22:39
Wow. Because we're always like,
22:41
oh, I don't care about material things. Right? So
22:45
remember when Jesus was walking back
22:47
and he saw the fig tree? Yeah. I
22:49
liken my relationship that man to
22:51
a fig
22:52
tree. Do you know that's exactly what I always
22:54
tell people about my past marriage? What
22:56
I said that I felt like I said, what
22:58
made me decide to get divorce is because
23:00
I liken my marriage to the fig tree that
23:02
wasn't bearing fruit in
23:03
season. And I felt like it was a cursed
23:05
fig tree. That's the reason why I had to get a divorce
23:08
so that
23:08
I could bear the fruit
23:09
of everything that I do now. Ugh.
23:11
Yeah. Well, here's mine. I say that
23:14
my fig tree was six two.
23:16
Curly hair, beautiful skin,
23:19
great smile, charisma, spoke
23:21
well, love the Lord knew how to
23:23
praise and all of that. That's the victory.
23:26
Now that victory looked good. But
23:29
baby when you got up on it, this is when you was walking
23:31
towards that picture there was no fruit. There
23:33
was no fruit. It was a what did he
23:35
what did he do to the
23:36
victories? First it. And
23:38
then with it. Baby? Yeah.
23:41
That's what I that's what I like in this too,
23:43
if you will, you know, my song. Don't dig
23:45
down. Yeah. I sing the lyric in
23:47
there, like, about if there's no
23:49
fruit, like, Yeah. There's no
23:51
fruit. And not and so that's what I like him
23:53
to also material things. Yeah. Like
23:55
the material things, it's not really about
23:57
them. It's about this is where
23:59
I've been in life and this is what I've been able
24:02
to accomplish, you know, over time.
24:04
This is right. But when when everything
24:06
is not there. You
24:08
know, people like me was given all kinda. It's
24:10
okay. It's okay. And
24:13
I hope my father doesn't get me for this one.
24:15
When it was over, You
24:17
know, my mom was like, your dad isn't
24:20
there kinda. I was like, what the your
24:22
dad isn't there crying. was like, why?
24:25
He said that if If he didn't say
24:27
yes, then you wouldn't have did it.
24:29
And that is the truth. So
24:31
my father feels like I gave you to
24:33
the wrong one. Because
24:35
if daddy had said, this ain't him, I would have been, like, look
24:37
at your buddy. You that quick. That
24:39
quick. You wouldn't you wouldn't wake you.
24:41
So, daddy, you wouldn't Not not I
24:43
love, but I love them, daddy. I would not have done
24:45
it. Really? I would I'm her. That's
24:47
good. I'm her. You
24:48
trust your father. I trust my I daddy
24:51
say jump back into the pool when I couldn't swim.
24:53
I'm jumping. Like, that Carla
24:55
s Evans, baby,
24:57
he got me. That's my first love.
24:59
Okay. I'd know what a man's supposed to
25:01
be. So I
25:03
love that his heart
25:04
was sensitive enough to feel
25:06
responsible
25:07
for the responsible. Because as a
25:09
as a father, I'm
25:11
hashtag girl dad all day. And
25:14
so when I gave my daughter away
25:16
back in December of twenty twenty too.
25:18
Mhmm. I had to evaluate old boy.
25:20
I was like, now we got to talk. Because at the end of the day,
25:22
I take my
25:23
word, like, seriously. If
25:25
I'm saying,
25:25
when they say who gives this woman
25:28
away. Mhmm. I have to be able to say,
25:30
yes, I give, you know, I give my daughter
25:32
you believing that you can cover her the
25:34
way I covered
25:35
her. Believe in that you could protect her. The way
25:37
that I protect her. Believe in that you could provide
25:39
for her. Believe in that you can provide
25:41
security for all those things, I had to
25:43
be able to see that in that that young
25:45
woman. Wait. Wait. Say You said something there. You said
25:48
you had to be able to see that. See it.
25:50
But not that he could do it right on that day. No.
25:52
No. Because my dad was giving him grace
25:54
saying, I know you can't do it on this state.
25:56
Yeah. But but I trust you to
25:58
get it done. Right. Right. Right. So that
26:01
was kind of where it kind of ended
26:03
because
26:05
Yeah. No. Once once that whole
26:07
thing happened, it was like So
26:09
what really made the bottom fall out of your marriage?
26:11
I know you haven't been very vocal about
26:13
it. Not at all. What made
26:15
the bottom fall off? I was verbally abused,
26:18
and I became a verbal abuser.
26:21
Right. Because, you
26:22
know, I didn't sit there and
26:23
just listen. Open. Open gonna come out. I said what
26:25
you're saying? Oh, baby.
26:27
I went into the backpack point.
26:30
You know? There were
26:32
things like you make enough for the two of us.
26:35
Mhmm. Oh, I didn't
26:37
know. thought I married a working actress. You
26:39
know, on those times when the times are being
26:41
for me. There there was so there was verbal
26:43
abuse, and and people talk about
26:46
domestic violence so much. And they're
26:48
always talking about the black eye to brooms, and
26:50
they always got the pictures. But baby,
26:52
the pictures of my heart, the
26:54
pictures of of
26:56
what happened on the inside when somebody
26:59
tell you, did nobody want you but me. Mhmm.
27:01
When you hear the things, you
27:03
overweight, you fat, you when you hear
27:06
the things, and you Brely in a
27:08
in a in a business that
27:10
tries to guide
27:11
you, you know. Yeah.
27:13
Nope. Nobody understands what
27:15
I was going through while I was
27:17
Ron Dale Lancaster on this on
27:19
the set of ambitions. This
27:22
is when it hit to hit
27:24
to hit the bricks. I was getting
27:26
up for work like Okay.
27:30
Like, that was that's
27:32
when it all just, you know, really fell apart
27:35
when I got to Atlanta. But let me tell you about
27:37
the goodness of God again. Like,
27:40
the marriage was failing first
27:42
week of marriage. And you tell me, maybe I please,
27:45
talk you you talk to folks all the time. Maybe you
27:47
ask them for me. First week of marriage. We
27:49
had to go out of town for something he had to
27:51
do. My mom and I said, oh, we'll
27:54
meet you down there. Because you're going out of town. We'll
27:56
make it a girl's whatever while. So let's
27:58
meet for dinner after you finish a business. We get
28:00
there. The first week of marriage.
28:03
He come to the restaurant without his ring on.
28:07
We like. And my mother's like,
28:09
please don't make a a mohiel. What they say? Whatever
28:11
to happen. Make a mountain out of mohiel. And I'm like,
28:13
mommy, I just got married last
28:15
week and he doesn't have his ring on.
28:18
And he's like, girl, like, he's
28:20
like, I wash my hands. What? I could
28:23
not sit I would not sit at the restaurant
28:25
at the table until we left
28:27
my mother at the restaurant with the other people
28:30
went back to the hotel because he was he was staying
28:32
in the
28:32
hotel, and we were staying in that place. And
28:34
go, could you ring? No.
28:36
Why y'all in separate hotels? Oh,
28:38
because he was there on business. okay. So mom
28:40
and I decided to make it a girl's thing and
28:42
do our thing somewhere
28:43
else. So that's what
28:45
happened was. And I so that was first week.
28:47
So
28:47
how did you feel because of that? Because the
28:49
ring wasn't on his finger. I just
28:51
felt like I
28:54
I felt not represented. I'm
28:56
like, you're not you're we're we're away
28:59
from each other. He had already been there a few
29:01
days. Mom and I came down
29:03
and you walk him here just
29:05
like, what's up with We
29:07
back to that, like
29:08
So he said he just he washed
29:10
his hands. My hands. Like
29:11
He just left it at at And I was like, well, let's
29:13
go get it. Because
29:16
I don't know. That it just meant so much
29:18
to
29:18
me, like Well, of course, because
29:19
you you waited for this moment. I was telling you and
29:21
you didn't get a I mean, it's a week later that
29:23
you had to be.
29:24
The symbolism of I'm single.
29:27
Yeah. You know, I waited.
29:30
You know,
29:31
man, that hurt. Was having just, like, little
29:33
bit So how did
29:34
he handle her? How do you hey.
29:36
How did he handle
29:37
As of now, how did
29:38
you respond? How did you Well,
29:40
I was being a big Brely. People that know that
29:42
I can be a brat. was like,
29:43
that's why I'm sitting at this table till my husband
29:45
has a ring on. So what
29:48
what does everyone want it in? You
29:50
guys gonna sit there and order your food out stand
29:52
right here. I'm her.
29:55
I I am a little extra. But that
29:57
but I know that there's
29:59
a guy out there that knows how to --
30:01
Handle that, actually. -- love the hell out of me. Yeah.
30:03
If you can't mind, I'm saying. Yeah. You know
30:05
what I'm saying? So he never really
30:07
handled it that well. There's
30:10
another thing that I say that I think
30:12
people should be aware of when
30:14
they're dating in search searching for the one.
30:18
Proposals without rings? Is
30:23
it no no? It's not about
30:25
the material thing. Like, people want, oh, Brely,
30:27
you all about material. No. It
30:29
says that he has intention
30:32
for you that he will save or
30:34
whatever he has to do to
30:37
present something to you.
30:39
I'll never forget. Tabbeth
30:41
the brown. My sister said
30:43
you will not walk down that aisle until he proposes
30:46
properly. You
30:49
will not. And I was like, oh,
30:51
says, we we, you know, big deal. So
30:53
if y'all see the video of me getting proposed
30:56
to -- Yeah. -- I thought a stripper was coming in
30:58
at it. They had too short plan and
31:01
and the blindfold on me. I was about to attack
31:03
me. I was like, oh my goodness. I said, I didn't
31:05
put a filter for me. Wait a minute. And
31:09
they took the blindfold. It was him on his knee
31:11
proposing with
31:13
the ring and everything because he hadn't had it just
31:15
yet. But he added that day,
31:17
and it was beautiful. So he had
31:19
proposed you prior to that? You you
31:22
know what? I never really got a proposal.
31:24
It was kinda like -- We get married. -- we get married.
31:27
And I was like, okay. It wasn't really
31:29
like, I think there's something to a
31:31
man. See, a king humbling
31:34
himself before a queen.
31:37
That knee means something
31:39
Oh, it means everything. People's like it means
31:41
everything. I see it all the time. Something
31:43
that happens in the spirit realm when a
31:45
man acts. Because we always hear about
31:47
the woman submitting to a man, but the bible
31:50
says submit you one to another. And that
31:52
first submission from a man comes when he
31:54
kneels
31:55
new. This is the most beautiful
31:57
statement. It's God. It's the
31:59
man -- Right. -- then the woman. So he's taking
32:01
that man. He's putting him beneath you
32:04
to say, I vow
32:07
to protect, provide you know,
32:09
do all the things for you. So I never
32:12
had gotten that. And I was kind of
32:14
I was like, you know, whatever. And then,
32:16
you know, to be sick months into the marriage
32:18
and then start getting phone calls and text messages
32:21
about ayo. Is he gonna give me that money back?
32:25
What do you mean? Oh, they were like five
32:27
or six people that put in on this thing. Oh, okay.
32:29
Well, he asked me which one I want it. I just point
32:31
it. But you know, so
32:33
it's like So did you begin to realize
32:36
the sacrifice was never made for
32:37
you? And so in fact, what
32:39
did I do? I gave myself
32:42
way. So you can
32:44
use me. So you can't use
32:46
me. Leave me Leave
32:48
myself away and I just refuse to do that
32:50
again. I feel like I
32:53
I
32:53
What did he say about that? Turns me. When
32:56
you confronted him or brought it back and
32:58
be like, why are these people calling? Well No. Because
33:00
I I mean, I could When the dude I
33:02
could deduce that the brother didn't
33:04
have. Would it
33:04
I know about the What what he said
33:07
was it was was you okay with that? I was
33:09
okay with it because I was thinking, that's what the
33:11
man should do. If you haven't got no money, go
33:13
ask your friends, your uncles, that's over
33:15
there. Don't don't come here. And I remember,
33:17
actually, I remember when
33:19
early when
33:21
we were dating, something went wrong
33:23
with his car. Mhmm. Someone went wrong with his car.
33:26
And he asked me to pay
33:28
for it. And I said, oh, I don't do men and
33:30
money. Oh, I was
33:32
so proud of myself. Y'all, because I didn't
33:34
buy cars. I don't buy
33:36
computers. I
33:38
don't start business. Because I'm a help like,
33:41
I am a giver. No. Yeah. And my friends
33:43
now, Christina Johnson. She's like, you
33:45
don't get this receiving right. You don't
33:47
get it right. Because I don't really know how to
33:50
receive. If somebody does something for me, I'd be quick to wear
33:52
them a given day.
33:52
That's how I am. That's that's bad. I'm trying
33:55
to learn not to be like this.
33:56
I'm so like that. So I don't
33:57
know if that's a pride thing or what? It's not good,
33:59
and they say, you know what they say about the pride and the fall.
34:01
Yeah. So he
34:04
asked me and I said, no. Like, no. I
34:06
was so proud of myself. Like,
34:08
I thought it was a moment, like, the
34:10
earth could shake right now because I said
34:13
I said no. I couldn't believe I said
34:15
no. So that
34:19
the expectation that he had
34:21
of me was like, well, I'm asking
34:23
you. Not asking
34:26
nobody. I'm asking you. And I and I've
34:28
seen people sit on your couch right here and say,
34:30
she had my bed. Yep. When
34:32
I needed this, she did this. And then
34:34
I'm like, we were dating, and
34:37
I had already been through things with men and
34:39
money. And it just wasn't a good
34:41
look for me. Right? I Did
34:44
you actually tell him that though? I did. And
34:46
then he would go on to say, I'm not him.
34:48
No. I'm not the but I just didn't
34:50
even wanna get into that. I never
34:52
wanted that exchange to happen because
34:55
that's what happened with the ones I'm not
34:56
with. Because the exchange had
34:58
happened. Right? So this time I said,
35:00
I'm a stay away from paying
35:02
for stuff like that for you know I'm
35:04
talking about the exchange of articulating what
35:07
it what it is. To be able to say, hey, listen.
35:09
I really I mean, I really wish I could
35:11
show up like this, but at this stage of my wanna
35:14
do this because XYZ and I realized
35:16
that I'm such and such and such when I do
35:18
this. I didn't speak that well.
35:21
But I just I tried to explain why.
35:23
And, of course, I used past tense
35:25
relationships, which never is a good idea.
35:27
You did this for these other news. Then could
35:29
you do that? Be I had just that
35:32
was my last I was the last time it happened,
35:34
that was my last time. I was like, you know what? I
35:36
mean, I'm a giver and I
35:38
don't want to be used. I don't want
35:41
you to be with me because of what I can
35:43
and it I want I wanna wanna do things.
35:45
So put it like this. When I had opportunities
35:48
to share oh, I'm I'm a giver. Right.
35:50
Because your first time on first class will be who?
35:52
Your first time, it just buys our whole thing.
35:54
Wifey Like, you know, I'm a always
35:56
get so I give so much that
35:59
when we were dating, I had to
36:01
go speak at the Dreamers Academy
36:03
in Florida somewhere. Of
36:05
course, first class everything car pick
36:07
you up. But, you know -- Mhmm. -- they gave us
36:10
money to spend, and we
36:12
were abstaining from sex. And so
36:14
he was like, oh, is it we gonna be
36:16
cool? It's gonna be a sweet? So you could sleep,
36:18
you know, and then we could kinda wanna do all that.
36:20
But when it's time to go, he's like, you
36:22
know, what's gonna help us out? Can my friend
36:24
come? And I was like, okay.
36:28
He he asked that his guy friend could come,
36:31
and I said, yeah. Yeah.
36:36
That's what happened was. I
36:39
hosted them for
36:41
a whole week. In Florida.
36:43
Did you say I hosted? Yeah.
36:46
You know, I made sure everybody ate.
36:49
Everybody got a souvenir. You
36:51
know, everybody. Have fun. We gonna
36:53
get on these rides. Like, we had a good time.
36:55
But my point is, I I did give,
36:57
and I was
36:58
open, you know, to sharing What do
37:00
want his friend coming? Because he
37:02
it was he thought that his friend should
37:04
come because that's gonna make sure we don't do nothing.
37:07
Like, we don't we don't we don't go we don't go too far
37:09
because somebody will be there in my
37:12
naive yourself was like, okay. That's
37:15
different. Alright. It's just the truth.
37:17
That's just different. It's just the, like,
37:19
I wouldn't want my homeboy with me, with my woman.
37:22
Now I know that.
37:24
Now I know that. They didn't knew it, but
37:26
no one told me that. No. I don't know. I
37:28
I don't know.
37:29
Don't think I want my I mean and
37:31
I know one of the the guy
37:33
who I called, like, you know, you have that one person that
37:36
you dating -- Yeah. -- and that they're, like, the love of your
37:38
Wifey. would call
37:40
me from time because we dated when I was, like,
37:42
younger, and he would still call to check-in on
37:44
me your time to say, k. Wow. Here do you
37:46
see? Brother's ain't doing but you you give
37:48
an eye as you did. And I was like, no. Not with this
37:50
one, I was so happy. But
37:52
he was always like coaching me going,
37:54
what are you doing? I didn't I
37:56
didn't even raise you like that. I treated you like
37:59
a queen. I gave you everything. You know,
38:01
he was the first person to take me out the country and
38:03
do all the things. And he
38:05
was like, just shaking his head
38:07
even today, I think he's still be lying. This
38:10
girl here, my
38:12
plumb. He's coming plump.
38:15
But he'd be like, oh, Lord, what
38:17
are you doing out here? You're just out
38:19
here. I'm like, I know. But
38:21
So for that year, y'all dated for
38:23
about a year and a
38:24
and some months. So,
38:25
no, it was it was, like, around about ten months because
38:28
by the year, we were getting married. We
38:30
were getting That's a
38:30
good time for you. think it was a great time. I
38:32
didn't feel like I needed any more time.
38:35
Oh, there's another see, every time I think every
38:37
time you say something, I come to another point, of what not
38:39
to do. He can't move in y'all.
38:42
Are you moving in with you? He can't move in.
38:45
I'm a very also I
38:47
have lots of ideas. I'm a strategist. I don't
38:49
know people who will, you know, dealing all that.
38:51
Yeah. But we are big dreamers.
38:54
And and I got a plan for everything. In
38:56
your ladies, your man has to have
38:59
have the vision. I don't think we need to have the vision.
39:01
I think he has to have the vision, and then we help
39:03
him with the vision. But, baby, I was like, so
39:05
you could move in and get on your
39:07
feet for the first six months. And then even if we
39:09
have to move into an apartment, you know, I
39:11
was willing to come down from what I'm
39:13
used to. I own a whole house. And I was like,
39:16
I can, you know, rent mine out. We can get it apart.
39:19
I had the whole thing set up, but that was me.
39:21
That's see. That's why I know. By the time
39:23
we had went through by four, six, ten
39:25
counselors and ended up with the
39:27
white coat. That's
39:30
when I got my life to get that white coat. The the
39:32
the clinical psychologist got us together.
39:34
Okay? Yeah. I mean, we went to I
39:36
mean, we tried to cancel with friends. We
39:39
tried, you know, older couples. That
39:41
older couple said, this
39:43
is above our pay grade. We're
39:45
gonna introduce you to a
39:47
doctor. And we were like, okay?
39:49
That
39:49
we're married at this point.
39:50
Yes. And, I mean, we could not
39:52
Good. Y'all did a prequel counselor.
39:54
Yeah. And
39:55
y'all had counselors all throughout your
39:57
marriage.
39:57
All throughout them the home.
39:59
And
39:59
it was it was three months. Sixteen
40:02
month month. We
40:04
had counselors and people and because
40:07
I was we've had to call people, like, in the midst
40:09
of, like,
40:10
It it That's good. He was open enough to actually
40:12
go through counseling. Yeah.
40:13
That's good. lot people want a lot of men just
40:16
they will not submit to that. Yeah.
40:18
He he too he was totally that's I I
40:20
was, you know, happy that he was submit
40:22
to it, although it didn't always I
40:24
think we were both pointing
40:27
at the finger. You're wrong. You're wrong. So
40:29
we all we wanted to go to prove our point. Yeah.
40:31
Use somebody else's side. Somebody on your side.
40:34
And by the time we got to the clinical psychology,
40:37
she said, she said y'all both some fools. I
40:39
was like, oh, no. I'm not like him.
40:41
She said, no. Yes. Maybe you are. And she was a
40:43
black woman in her seventies and
40:46
who loved the lore but worldwide co we
40:48
went to a hospital. Y'all. Well, it's we
40:50
are this marriage is sick. We
40:52
own the sink in the shut in list. You hear
40:54
me? Praise us. I'm
40:56
serious. Like, for real for
40:58
real. And so we would sit
41:01
there, and then so she decided she wanted
41:03
to see us together, and
41:05
then see him separately, and then me separately
41:08
together. And then so I would go
41:10
to my possession by myself. And
41:12
she said, he didn't show up this week. What's
41:14
going on? Oh, I forgot to say
41:16
you. About three sessions
41:19
in, she said, oh, these first
41:22
of all, we my my
41:24
the guy said yes to. We
41:27
never had one of those. I
41:29
never had one of those. So
41:32
we had no insurance. So we had to pay.
41:34
Right? We to pay cash. So I was like, we're
41:36
going half on this. Okay. Where you gotta get
41:38
yours from that ain't my business? I brought
41:40
my half. Where you'll have it? And
41:43
so and she could see us over in
41:45
the corner. She ain't tooling.
41:48
Well, you need five more dogs. You know,
41:50
she saw us. I'm like, We went to the next
41:52
session. She said, God told me. God told
41:54
me. God told me. I
41:56
mean, she said God told me to
41:59
to do this. Do you know that she
42:01
gave and I'm probably well, I never said the names till
42:03
she's still covered. She said,
42:05
God told me
42:07
that I have to do this at no charge.
42:10
And so we didn't have to come in the scraper.
42:12
That's
42:12
good. And no more. And so we begin to go, and
42:14
then he stopped coming. And she would be like,
42:16
where is? I'm not going I'm cutting out the
42:18
time. Yeah. On my calendar, he did show up.
42:20
What's going on? Yeah. I kept going. And
42:23
y'all. The
42:24
moment, I kept going.
42:27
When you
42:27
started getting that strength. Started
42:29
getting that strength and elevator, building
42:31
that muscle. So
42:35
she began to pour into me
42:38
in such a way that I wish
42:40
that every young girl before
42:43
they go down the
42:44
aisle, that's
42:46
why I'm here.
42:47
Yeah.
42:48
That's why I'm here. Yeah.
42:49
Because the way she showed
42:51
me my shoes, like, you know, that's six two
42:54
curly hair, cutie potty, it walked up in
42:56
here. That's you. You know what?
42:58
In the insecurities he got about you, you
43:00
you owe TV, you kiss people. You
43:02
all that stuff you doing? That's
43:04
you looking at you. And I'm was like, uh-uh,
43:07
and she was like, uh-huh. That's
43:09
you. Because what I learned is
43:12
we are magnets. All
43:14
I did was draw, like, energy
43:16
into me. You know?
43:19
And so we think the devil coming in red
43:21
and the horns and the quote, quote,
43:23
and novel. No.
43:25
You are I drew that into me. That's
43:28
how broken I was. It had
43:30
nothing to do with him. Like, people
43:32
are like, oh, your song don't date down. I'm like, it's
43:34
really not about
43:35
him. It's about me. It's don't date
43:37
down is about not
43:39
dating down in your
43:41
your vibration --
43:42
Yeah. -- in your your finances.
43:45
Yes. But not in in how you
43:47
see the world, and what your
43:49
your future plans are, what your purpose
43:52
is. You cannot get with somebody
43:54
that has not worked those things out.
43:56
We must show up both in
43:58
a hundred percent. Yeah. You can't
44:01
show up, you know, like I'm a get
44:03
it done. You know, I'm almost there.
44:05
Yeah. Don't don't do that. Don't do
44:07
that you we gotta let people get let get whole.
44:10
Before you come try to say hi to me. Don't do
44:12
it. So what I've learned is and
44:16
that's what I can tell you. The people
44:18
who are now approaching me for
44:20
dating if I'm like, let
44:23
me look at your fruit. You
44:25
know, I see how other people, you
44:27
know, respond to you. I see how
44:29
you respond to people. I'm like, oh,
44:32
okay. She's different
44:35
because there's a different guy standing in front
44:37
of me now. So I'm like, oh,
44:39
it was me the whole time. That's
44:41
good. It was me. So it was me, but
44:43
I'm I'm so happy that
44:46
it that I know that because guess what?
44:48
If I was the Brely that
44:50
I am today, I would have never
44:53
met him.
44:56
We would have never met because we was vibrating.
44:59
vibrating on too totally.
45:01
There were some surprises that happened in your marriage.
45:03
Right? When you got
45:04
married? Oh, yeah. What
45:05
what was some of those surprises that arose?
45:08
Like I said, I the
45:11
the young lady who introduced us thought
45:13
he didn't have any
45:14
kids.
45:14
Right. But when we met and started talking
45:16
to everything, he was like, I have a son. He's
45:18
twenty something. I was like, oh, no. Twenty something.
45:20
Okay. Cool. So I married a guy
45:23
with a twenty something year old kid.
45:25
Mhmm. And then he was supposed to take us,
45:27
like, when my parents took care of the wedding, so
45:29
he's supposed to do the honeymoon. And
45:32
he was like, wait, I know you wanna go out the country.
45:34
Yes. I do. He didn't have a passport at the time.
45:36
No big deal. Oh, in your episode with
45:38
the girl with the passport, it's a real thing.
45:42
Pass these. Simone, sons
45:44
of the lawyer, why? Ask
45:47
them. Wait.
45:49
Don't matter nobody. Don't got no passport. Okay.
45:52
So She when I saw the episode,
45:54
I was like, I was standing up in my living room
45:56
because I was like, this is the truth. I married
45:59
a home man who didn't have a mask work. So
46:01
I figured he's my husband. I could open the mail.
46:03
Mhmm. So Oh, I got the mail. Mhmm. Mhmm.
46:06
Charmsport. Twenty twenty
46:08
three, I'm thinking, ain't y'all to get it by now
46:10
if the kid is this old. I was waiting
46:12
for me to do a math on that. Wait, this kid is
46:15
six. Who is he? Who
46:17
it is? Who is this? Harper.
46:19
I don't know this person. I don't know this man.
46:22
And so he was like, oh, you know, that girl been
46:24
blaming that kid on me. Come on Jesus. I feel
46:26
it. He's saying he gonna he gonna do something
46:29
for it. So so then there
46:31
was a little boy. There was
46:33
a little boy. That,
46:35
you know, we had to, you know, do all the things go
46:37
to court. And I want children
46:39
so bad that I was like, you know what? God
46:42
hasn't blessed my womb with you because by that
46:44
time we're married. Right? It's because
46:46
we already have children. So I didn't
46:48
care that this was that was before me. I
46:50
only known to boy. Know about a year. Remember?
46:53
So I was like, we have a son. A six
46:55
year old. Let's go get him. He was like, well,
46:57
I love you want to. And I was like, okay. Then
46:59
my mother was like, do not
47:01
force this man to be a father. And I was
47:03
like, that don't sound right, mommy. She's like,
47:05
you can't force you might be doing that
47:07
kid more of a service to leave it
47:10
like it didn't you art, but I was
47:12
like nah. I don't know nah. That ain't what God
47:14
would have God. No. If you
47:16
have your flesh and blood walking here on this
47:18
earth, then so
47:21
we did the thing. We met and we
47:23
met him. He's beautiful and his
47:25
mother was kind and, you know,
47:27
they had a situation and one night situation
47:29
and whatever didn't work out, you know. Yeah.
47:31
And so there's this beautiful child
47:34
and I was just so excited. I'm,
47:36
you know, let let's take him out for the
47:38
week. Can he spend the night? Just wanna oh, I just wanted
47:40
to get his room together. I just wanted and
47:42
then I gotta end a DM on
47:44
Instagram. Instagram?
47:46
On Instagram. Instagram. Boy. Instagram.
47:48
Instagram. Yep. Instagram.
47:51
Instagram. Instagram. That's
47:54
good. Instagram.
47:57
I got an inbox on Instagram that said,
47:59
and and there's a twelve year old here
48:01
in Hawaii. I said, what? So
48:06
and and I and again, I I knew
48:09
I was growing because the owe
48:11
me when it came for her. But
48:13
the new me that I was starting
48:15
to be at the time was like, this isn't
48:17
about him right now. This is about that
48:19
little boy. Yeah. So tell me how to get
48:21
in touch with you. So we can get this family
48:24
where it needs to be. Mhmm. By then,
48:26
I had gotten pregnant twice and
48:30
had two miscarriages. Wow.
48:32
And I was like, Lord, no.
48:35
I'm doing it right.
48:35
Like, I've done everything right. Man, I got
48:38
husband and we got the house.
48:39
Yeah. We're doing right. We're trying to do right by
48:41
the kid now. What's going
48:43
on? And God was like, no.
48:46
And no again. Until
48:48
two times. Two times.
48:50
I never knew that.
48:51
I know. Most people don't know that.
48:54
I
48:54
hate for sharing that.
48:55
Yeah. Because it adds some
48:59
weight to the story of why because I kept
49:01
saying Wifey are you so not
49:04
only forgiving, but so
49:06
considerate of another child
49:08
and so considerate of, you know,
49:10
instead of getting mad, like, I don't want if
49:12
I ain't got no kids, I'm showing up by taking care
49:14
of these kids and you involved, but you did the opposite
49:17
to a great to a great degree
49:19
of saying, let's go do this.
49:21
Even with your mom saying, no. You don't
49:24
do that. You're like, no. This is what God will want.
49:26
And so I salute you for actually because when
49:28
you're
49:28
married, that's how you have to operate. I
49:30
I like, that's I don't know.
49:33
That's just who I am. Like,
49:36
I don't know. That I just have a heart my
49:38
heart is just so soft. To
49:40
kids like that. So I just was like Did
49:42
you
49:42
get to meet the twelve year old? No. Never
49:44
did. He and she was like, get
49:47
out of there because I'm about to drop the hammer.
49:49
And it's gonna be like, ladies, another
49:52
point. This is another point.
49:54
Know the laws where you live.
49:57
So in California, there's
50:00
laws that say, if you this
50:03
word hurt my feelings, Jesus grushed.
50:07
My daddy didn't raise no breadwinner. Okay?
50:10
But when you make the heavier bag
50:13
in the marriage, you are the breadwinner.
50:15
And so the person
50:18
that you marry now is like into
50:20
a lifestyle that you've provided. Yep.
50:22
And the money you make is now called
50:25
marital money. Yeah. And
50:27
the house you own before, he
50:29
even came on the scene is
50:33
now a marriage to,
50:35
you know It's like community property. community property
50:37
because he lives there. Yep.
50:39
Joe, I was like, the car you
50:42
own with no no baby. That's
50:44
that's nothing but more money for him.
50:46
Yeah. So Yep. Because
50:48
I didn't even know these things, I
50:51
was just like, when it came down to it,
50:55
and he filed in
50:57
California, and I saw all
50:59
the stuff plus alimony I
51:01
had to pay. Mhmm. I said, me.
51:06
I was like, we only got married here.
51:09
I don't think I mean,
51:12
I couldn't believe I couldn't believe the paperwork.
51:14
Yeah. I couldn't believe the paperwork.
51:16
So me and my smart self, And
51:18
actually, I was into to be completely one
51:20
hundred percent, let me go back. I
51:23
decided I wasn't gonna get a lawyer and
51:25
do all the things. I'm smart, honey.
51:28
I've gone to college. My parents
51:30
have paid for private school. I
51:32
can go to a couple of, you
51:34
know, free law classes. And
51:36
I can do this thing. So I went
51:38
down to the court and I got the paperwork, honey,
51:41
I printed out what needs to be printed. And
51:44
I served him myself, went
51:47
there and said, you could sign him right here we'd be doing right now.
51:49
He was like, we I ain't doing this. And
51:51
so when he wouldn't sign those papers
51:53
did, he filed in California. So
51:55
and then he lured it up. And
51:58
then my friends were
51:59
like, we know you. Thank you smart.
52:01
Yeah. You bet you too. But what you're not gonna
52:03
do? Is go and get somebody with a whole
52:05
law degree. And I was like, no, because
52:07
the law say, my friends are like, ma'am.
52:11
Ma'am. This
52:13
is not the fight you won't. So anyway
52:15
You're about to lose it all? Yeah. And
52:18
so I reluctantly found
52:21
a beautiful black woman
52:23
who said I'm help
52:25
you. And
52:27
that and her and I Lord, I'd know
52:29
she above my paychecks because she had done
52:32
some of the
52:32
best, you know, some of the, you know, the
52:34
Yeah.
52:34
Best settlements. The best settlements
52:37
the biggest ones in Hollywood. Yeah.
52:39
And here I come, like,
52:42
mine don't look like theirs, but
52:44
he tried to take everything. And
52:46
so and then
52:49
it like, he would say things like,
52:51
you know because to
52:53
to rewind I know I'm all over the place I hope
52:55
you guys are keeping up. Yeah. Keeping up. The
52:58
I was in we were in LA when
53:00
I booked the show ambition.
53:03
Right? So ambition shot
53:06
for eight months. So
53:08
here I am newly wedded saying,
53:11
I gotta go to work for eight months.
53:13
He was like, we are newlywares. I need to with my
53:15
Wifey. And I'm like, I hear you. But I need
53:17
to go make this money.
53:18
Yeah. Because
53:19
you all may not. So I gotta
53:21
get annoyed. So
53:23
please Why why your boys got going to do?
53:25
Because, you know, us still feel I'm still
53:27
little crunchy about how some of the things went
53:29
down. You know, I wish I had the
53:32
words and the because
53:34
remember, you told you when you and I were talking,
53:36
you was like, well, you could've said that, but you could've said
53:38
it like this. Yes. I didn't have that. Yeah.
53:40
I I mind you, I was in the midst of verbal
53:42
abuse. So And
53:44
that's not a reason because I was also a
53:46
verbal abuser back. Right. I was
53:48
not And the reason why I can tell you that
53:51
now is because I've been in those same situation
53:53
where I'll say stuff. Like, you start hitting me
53:55
a certain way. I'm a lash out verbally, and
53:57
I can cut you down with words like never
54:00
before.
54:00
Oh. I write these
54:01
beautiful letters in his book, but that dog don't
54:03
think can go another way when I feel hurt.
54:05
And so and so what I've been asking,
54:07
god, but sure me in the area
54:09
is that even when I feel afflicted,
54:11
even if I feel disrespected, can I
54:13
still offer a level of
54:15
respect without trying to cut
54:17
somebody?
54:17
And that's still
54:18
process. And it is still a process, but I
54:20
find myself these days, taking
54:23
a minute, making
54:25
another call to say, what do you think this person
54:27
made by this? You know, like, can
54:29
I phone a friend? Phone a friend.
54:32
Bonafreak, you know, you know,
54:34
can do a bit to bit. And
54:37
I and and I've slowed myself down to
54:39
to start just giving people benefit of the down.
54:41
Like, I choose peace. Now,
54:43
you know, I choose joy. I choose
54:45
happiness. I choose
54:47
love. Now
54:48
So you got the job at ambition y'all y'all So
54:50
I got the job at ambition and I had to to come
54:53
out and then he was like, I'm coming
54:55
with you. And I was like, I'm paying a mortgage
54:57
in
54:57
California, but you there stay at
54:59
the house.
55:00
In business shooting in Atlanta. Yes. Yes.
55:02
So it was just a a big old thing
55:04
and he ended up
55:06
getting us a place long story short,
55:09
getting us a place in Atlanta. I
55:11
moved in. We were there three weeks before
55:14
he reminded me that that place was in his
55:16
name. The
55:17
witness place, the place in Atlanta? The apartment
55:19
in Atlanta, the two bedroom apartment in Atlanta,
55:21
he was, like, you know, one
55:23
day, I didn't even I didn't
55:25
say something he didn't like, this is when I'm exercising
55:28
all the things from the clinical psychologist. She
55:30
was like, every time you get in the
55:32
ring, they don't know who the fool lives. And
55:35
I said, oh, wait. Hold up. Wait.
55:37
What you're saying? Every time you respond to
55:40
something that he calls you that you are not
55:43
You you are that thing. I'm like,
55:45
what? So this
55:47
particular day, I just decided not
55:51
responding. I'm not
55:53
responding. How many people even angry though?
55:55
And he said, you ain't listening to me. I said, no.
55:58
You said I was overweight that you gonna get somebody fourteen
56:00
years younger than you go. I said all the things you
56:02
said, I'm listening. But he
56:04
was just going for me. He said, you know what?
56:06
Get out. Get out.
56:08
And I was like, Well, I'm your wife. I went
56:10
there went there on that air bed that
56:13
we haven't just moved in. And
56:15
laid down, he was stood over me and was, like, get
56:17
out or I'm calling the police. And
56:19
I just was like, I'm on a new show on
56:21
on. They don't do police men. Right. So don't?
56:23
They don't do that. Yeah. And so I figured,
56:25
let me get dressed and just leave, give
56:27
him some time. I'm thinking because I would have
56:29
never left. I have parents that are
56:31
in -- Yeah. -- forty five years. Yeah. I'm
56:34
not not leaving you. Yeah. I'm gonna let you had
56:36
this
56:36
moment.
56:36
Yeah. I'm gonna go over my girlfriend's house and,
56:38
you know, who saw for two,
56:40
three hours and I'm coming back. I came
56:42
back and I'm
56:45
my keys. I'm
56:46
calling, like He didn't change back quick. Oh,
56:48
no. He took my keys off the
56:51
the road? My ring while I was getting dressed and so
56:53
I couldn't get in the high I couldn't even get
56:55
in. And so I'm like, you took my keys.
56:57
He's like, yeah. I said, you can't come back here. And
56:59
so I'm thinking, okay, he's just mad. I called
57:01
my friend, she said, girl, come back. You know, you always have a
57:03
room here. It's all good. One
57:06
day, two day, three day, Mind
57:08
you, I don't have any clothes. I have pictures
57:10
of myself in my trailer. Oh,
57:13
a actress. Y'all actresses can get this.
57:15
I have pictures of myself. In my
57:17
trailer, and I only
57:19
had those clothes that I put on. And
57:21
I took a picture of myself day one, day
57:24
two, day three, day four,
57:26
and I had to wash it on -- Yes. -- and I would
57:28
be calling him like, I'm wearing the same clothes
57:30
to set pretty soon somebody's gonna ask me
57:32
what's going on. And he's like, oh, do she
57:34
got a wash under? I did wash him. But
57:36
I'm saying, can I come get some clothes? Nope.
57:39
You ain't bought none of my clothes. Can I come get?
57:41
He was like, nope. Like, And so then
57:43
I lost the contact. I lost the contact,
57:46
and I said, I can't see now. Like,
57:48
I can't work. I can't see. I can't drive
57:50
to work. You can come get a
57:51
contact. You can come get some contacts in
57:53
one outfit. And Wow. He
57:55
was doing that.
57:58
But again, when when we are not
58:01
well, when we are not well, we will
58:03
all do some some ridiculous things.
58:06
And my girlfriend can attest because I took a girlfriend
58:08
with me. And she Yeah. --
58:10
the whole thing, she had her phone in her
58:12
top pocket. And I never knew the whole song. She
58:14
was recording the whole song. She said just in case something
58:16
pop off, I need something. So
58:19
she was like, girl, you should get some junk
58:22
close for the gym. I was like, oh,
58:24
yeah. Shoot. You know,
58:26
I'm trying get some stuff and then
58:28
he started playing gospel music. It was crazy.
58:31
It was it it just it was it went crazy.
58:33
And then and I think he said or did something.
58:36
And I was like, you know what? I'm done. Oh,
58:38
he called my parents. And we were in Georgia.
58:40
My parents live in
58:41
California. think it was about nine in
58:43
the morning. So what was it in California? The
58:46
three hours. Three hours ago. So it was six.
58:49
AM. And you called my mom
58:51
to say she over here trying to move out.
58:53
But he forgot that she lay in next
58:55
to a king. Am I gonna
58:57
sit y'all over there fighting an argument again because
58:59
I could hear her and then all I heard
59:01
was kill. Oh, Fajada,
59:03
don't know. My first name is Kim Yeah.
59:06
And so, Braidley, you know, just go by
59:08
that. But my day was like, Kim, get
59:10
all your stuff right now is done. I'm
59:13
put your hands on. I will get you don't
59:15
want me to get on the plane. You bet keep your hands
59:17
to yourself. Get all yours and I was in of
59:19
me and my friend, just a backache. And
59:22
then he was
59:23
like, my mom didn't raise me like, did y'all need some
59:25
help? I was like, don't touch my my friend was like, let him
59:27
help. And so he's
59:29
putting my stuff out in the car. Mark,
59:33
her little car was so packed, and some
59:35
of my stuff was still in the car. I was looking at
59:37
her car. I was like, oh, Uber.
59:39
I called me at Uber
59:40
XL.
59:40
Yeah. He saw that black cheese. Did you call
59:42
something to come up here to take
59:45
I oh, and it was a lady driving. I was like,
59:47
dang, that was gonna be a good scene. That was
59:49
gonna look like I really did. But
59:53
it was a lady driving his big old suburban,
59:55
packed the rest of my stuff. He was like, my wife's leaving
59:57
you today to the driver. And she was like,
1:00:00
And I'll just never I'll never get, like,
1:00:02
driving away with all my
1:00:04
stuff, like, going to my girlfriend,
1:00:07
Christina. Thank you, Christina. When you
1:00:09
heard when you, at that moment, were you,
1:00:11
like, did you feel there's a failure? Did you
1:00:13
feel I could still repairable?
1:00:15
Yes. I felt like it was repairable. Yeah. I
1:00:17
did. I totally did because I said --
1:00:19
Yeah. -- a week or two? Yep. Then
1:00:21
I said, a month or two. Yeah. And
1:00:23
then when it got to five months, I
1:00:27
was like, you know, I'm oh,
1:00:29
can't cuss on this Can't cuss on the show. Oh, Braley
1:00:32
Evans. Brely mother
1:00:34
up and everything. I mean, I had to remember
1:00:36
who I was. I
1:00:37
was, like, five months
1:00:39
of holidays. don't
1:00:42
know. See, I call that the I call that the prodigal
1:00:44
son moment where he says, and then he came to himself.
1:00:47
That's when you because when you reminded
1:00:49
of who you are, and we all
1:00:51
go through that moment. Hopefully, some of us
1:00:53
get there sooner than later, but you
1:00:55
you have those moments where you go, hold on. If
1:00:57
you don't value me, I must have
1:01:00
showed you that I was invaluable in some
1:01:02
areas. Or
1:01:02
that I don't value it. And then I I'm a value
1:01:04
myself, and I'm a sit here right here now. No.
1:01:06
Hold on. Let me and then you start saying exactly
1:01:09
the language that you just said, would you be
1:01:11
like, I am and you'll start affirming
1:01:13
yourself, which you're really big about
1:01:15
affirmations. And
1:01:17
what does that mean? Because
1:01:19
let me change something. I started saying my I
1:01:21
m.
1:01:21
The I m's right here. I started saying
1:01:23
the I m's. Got God's sick.
1:01:25
Let me check. God will tell you to use social media.
1:01:27
Sometimes y'all see people on social media talking
1:01:29
and doing things. Yeah. Like, he need to get out social media.
1:01:31
No. Yeah. God use the social
1:01:33
media. I went on the social media
1:01:36
and what I was doing
1:01:38
in the mornings. So I was doing my am. Somebody said,
1:01:40
I wanna wanna read those things. And I said,
1:01:42
no. I might just save them from, you know,
1:01:44
whatever. They're like, no, we wanna read them.
1:01:46
One of the fans on the thing
1:01:50
emailed me everything I had said
1:01:52
in one of my and she said, there's your
1:01:54
book. You finish it up. That right there.
1:01:56
Came out of it. And I'm like, God,
1:01:58
I can't just do no I
1:02:01
am you know, this this wasn't enough for
1:02:03
a book, and then I heard ABCs. And
1:02:06
that's the ABC's oh, the ABC's of IAM's.
1:02:08
Okay. Because guess guess why is ABC?
1:02:11
I don't care if you have a doctor's degree everybody
1:02:13
started. ABC. ABC. So
1:02:16
I said that's not enough. Just twenty six letters.
1:02:18
That's not enough for a book lord. He said
1:02:20
five words. For every letter.
1:02:22
And then I said, that's still not he
1:02:24
said, put a scripture to
1:02:26
every I am in there. So people are not
1:02:28
just saying affirmations. They
1:02:30
are standing on the word. They
1:02:32
are and so that's how the book went.
1:02:35
It's so the
1:02:35
book. I am for the lord your God as the one who
1:02:37
goes with you to fight for you against your enemies
1:02:39
to give you victory due to enemy twenty
1:02:41
first. Come
1:02:42
on, victory. I am victorious. Say
1:02:44
it. I am victorious. Bin victorious means
1:02:46
even if you lose, you are tourists
1:02:49
because you ran your
1:02:50
race, your way, you beat your
1:02:52
own time. There is no
1:02:54
competition.
1:02:55
Can I tell you something? It's
1:02:57
amazing that you opened it to that
1:02:58
You're under slippage. Can I tell you this? I tell people,
1:03:01
don't read that book from front of back. Let's
1:03:03
have your time with the Lord. And then let him
1:03:05
reveal Let him reveal something to you and look
1:03:08
down. Because that's how he
1:03:10
works in that book. That is
1:03:12
a bible repurposed that
1:03:14
I don't I understand how the Bible was
1:03:16
inspired by man to write because
1:03:18
I'm not wasn't good in English. Yeah. It wasn't
1:03:21
my thing. But he's this book has
1:03:23
been birthed out of all the experience. You
1:03:26
know? And now I'm doing shows
1:03:28
and and having the event I just had
1:03:30
when Kingspeak. Right. Like, all
1:03:32
of these things would not have been born
1:03:35
if I didn't have the experience with
1:03:37
with this you
1:03:38
know. And
1:03:38
then in the book, you leave this area
1:03:40
right here. And what is this area right here
1:03:43
for? It's so that they can get their holy download.
1:03:45
You get that download and you say what God
1:03:47
is saying to you in the moment so you can go back
1:03:50
and remember. Sometimes you need to be
1:03:52
be in remembrance of yourself, you know?
1:03:54
Of where you were in that
1:03:55
moment. I know.
1:03:57
But he said to me, my grace is
1:03:59
sufficient for you. For my power is made
1:04:01
perfect and weakness. Therefore, I
1:04:03
will boast all the more gladly about my
1:04:05
weaknesses. And this is what I stand on right here
1:04:08
so that Christ power may rest
1:04:10
on
1:04:10
me. Second Corinthians twelve verse nine.
1:04:13
Say it, I am motivated.
1:04:14
I am motivated. There it is. Ma'am, motivated
1:04:16
means you put an idea into
1:04:18
action starting out even if you don't have
1:04:21
all the resources your motivation is
1:04:23
a magnet force that says. That's
1:04:27
that's that's that's that's that's very good right there. Well,
1:04:28
when I tell you that right there, give me
1:04:30
That thing right there. Yeah. It's on Amazon.
1:04:32
Yeah. Go on Amazon. Go on Amazon. Get
1:04:35
your tool. Get your tool. Get your your sword.
1:04:39
And so when did you write
1:04:41
this book? So this was it
1:04:43
took me about She
1:04:46
would maybe we had three years after we were
1:04:48
apart that I just was on a
1:04:50
healing journey. I was just, like, I wanna
1:04:52
be bet. What you know, and then I begin to
1:04:54
hear and, like, was then I was doing
1:04:56
the I'm's and
1:04:57
everything, and that's how it it came about. Like
1:04:59
So what year did the enrollment take place?
1:05:01
That was like, what? Eighteen.
1:05:05
Yeah. Eighteen.
1:05:06
What's so interesting is that as you
1:05:08
were afraid
1:05:09
of losing lose. This came out in twenty. In twenty
1:05:11
twenty. Mhmm. So as you were afraid
1:05:13
to lose everything in this battle, whatever,
1:05:15
Norman, tell people what an Norman does.
1:05:18
Well, Enrollment says that it never happened.
1:05:21
And so what happened was he didn't show
1:05:23
up for court. We had
1:05:26
the court date and everything, and the
1:05:30
the my attorney with his attorney didn't
1:05:32
show up either. And so my attorney said, well,
1:05:34
an all fairness judge, I need to go over
1:05:37
the list that he's asking for, half
1:05:39
the house, the car -- Yeah. -- what's
1:05:41
in her account? And the judge
1:05:44
said, well, Mister
1:05:47
didn't decide to come today, so apparently
1:05:49
he wants nothing. But can I tell you guys
1:05:51
this? What happened in me
1:05:53
was I was doing everything
1:05:56
that the attorney told me to do to keep my
1:05:58
stuff. I got to
1:06:00
a point where I said -- Oh. -- this stuff
1:06:02
ain't even mine. You said you don't care. I must do
1:06:04
it over it. Yeah. This is gossip. Has
1:06:07
a
1:06:07
mouthful. If God is trying to get his son
1:06:09
something through me, he can have it.
1:06:12
You
1:06:12
went there with it? I went there. I said he can
1:06:14
have it. Whatever it is. So I went to
1:06:16
court thinking today is the day. I don't know.
1:06:18
You know, how he gonna get half of his house? I'm gonna
1:06:20
have to sell it nor to give him half because where I'm gonna get
1:06:22
-- Yeah. -- hundreds of thousands dollars to give him So
1:06:25
III would I have surrendered my
1:06:27
stuff. Like, you can have it. Because
1:06:30
I and then even my attorney, she was co.
1:06:32
She was like, you don't believe God could do this
1:06:34
again and more. Triple for your
1:06:36
trouble. I said, you know what give him all this. Give
1:06:39
it to him. That that the judge
1:06:41
said, because he's not
1:06:43
here, then he obviously doesn't want anything,
1:06:45
and I didn't have to give a thing. So
1:06:48
that's another lesson. Keep your hands open.
1:06:51
Keep your hands open. And you know what?
1:06:54
I'm sitting here. Can I take something? Y'all.
1:06:56
I tripped that. You add me on on
1:06:58
here and you didn't have a tissue
1:06:59
box. But I said, am I not gonna
1:07:02
need a tissue, but I am healed from
1:07:04
a thing
1:07:04
y'all. What is? I
1:07:05
don't need a tissue box when I talk about
1:07:07
this. Yeah. Like out. Yeah. I thought
1:07:09
it was it was a moment at the very beginning. I thought
1:07:11
you was about to cry when you was talking about something I
1:07:13
said, I didn't bring a tissue and I said, it's over
1:07:16
there in the corner.
1:07:16
Notice it what now? I was like, Oh, what have you been
1:07:18
looking like on here? But y'all, there's
1:07:21
and so I and and I never like to say, Hill's
1:07:24
ED because I think healing is always
1:07:26
happening to But certain areas, you know,
1:07:28
it's not that you get over it. This gap is good.
1:07:30
You know, you can flick this gap and your skin look
1:07:32
good a bit. That's where I'm at in this in
1:07:34
this point. Yeah.
1:07:36
What people don't may not know about the
1:07:39
nobleman. One of the things that you can do
1:07:41
when the stipulations of getting
1:07:43
a on a note is if you have kids
1:07:45
that are undisclosed. And so
1:07:48
if I get married to someone and never let
1:07:50
them know about my children that I have, that's
1:07:53
of that's one of the grounds of in the nomen.
1:07:55
So that's what's so interesting about even how
1:07:57
this thing laid out. But, ma'am,
1:07:59
when I tell you what so dope about is that
1:08:01
you've been very private about this situation,
1:08:04
and so I take it as an honor that you
1:08:06
would trust me
1:08:08
with the story that you'll trust me
1:08:10
with your vulnerability that you'll trust this
1:08:12
space and what I love so
1:08:14
much about how you've been journeying through
1:08:16
this conversation is that
1:08:19
you've you're pulling out your own gyms
1:08:21
and nuggets and, hey, women, take
1:08:23
a listen, hey, and that's what God
1:08:25
has allowed us to become or or walking
1:08:27
epistles. And as walking epistles,
1:08:29
this is the book of great Come on. There's
1:08:32
there's nothing you could do to change your
1:08:34
story. This is a story that God gifted
1:08:36
you with. And the Bible says that people
1:08:38
will be over come by the word of our testimony by
1:08:40
the blood of the
1:08:41
lamb. So this is your testimony.
1:08:42
This
1:08:42
is your testimony. This is your testimony. It's a beautiful testimony
1:08:45
no matter how. Ugly it was.
1:08:47
No. No. It's not here. Nothing against
1:08:49
him, you know. Yeah. God bless him. Thank
1:08:51
you for the experience wherever you are. We
1:08:53
don't even know each other anymore. It's so crazy. But
1:08:56
it's like, I'm grateful for the
1:08:58
experience
1:08:58
because, again, we wouldn't have books and shows
1:09:01
and all these kind of things, but I think,
1:09:03
you know, be on your journey. Yes. Be on
1:09:05
your journey. Submit to the journey. Submit to the journey.
1:09:07
Just it's it's okay. We might get
1:09:09
some bumps and and and bruises on the way.
1:09:11
But I know there's a king for
1:09:13
me. I'm there's no the desire is
1:09:15
too strong.
1:09:16
Yeah. That so I I I'm
1:09:18
very I'm confirmed. Although
1:09:20
I'm holding on like this, but I'm like,
1:09:22
you better come on and get this. Now,
1:09:26
I'm just I'm I'm really
1:09:28
I'm just excited that I can do this whole show
1:09:30
and not
1:09:31
Breakdown. No. Breakdown.
1:09:32
I'm like, because I did. I was gonna
1:09:34
bet to your boss like this. Yeah. She was so
1:09:36
he was so no. I just don't
1:09:38
see I've never seen you walk and move like
1:09:40
that. I kept saying, can you sit down so I can
1:09:43
test
1:09:43
I got all my feelings. I said, oh,
1:09:44
you got I said, sit down on the couch. You're
1:09:47
scared to sit down. Why do I get my weed pulled up?
1:09:49
But No. But it's
1:09:51
just, like, I've never talked about
1:09:53
this with anyone. And thank you for having
1:09:55
a safe space for me to to do
1:09:57
that. And I just I wanna honor
1:09:59
the experience that God gave me. I don't wanna
1:10:01
bash anyone. I don't wanna make somebody
1:10:04
look bad. It is what it is. I had this experience
1:10:06
that you allowed me to have. Of you and guess
1:10:08
what? I didn't give you the most rosy experience
1:10:11
either because I told y'all I was abused
1:10:13
but old baby. I was getting mine in too.
1:10:15
Yeah. So, you know, it's it's just
1:10:17
I'm just happy to be able to share
1:10:20
so that somebody else can have AAA
1:10:23
easier
1:10:23
route. You know what I'm saying? Well, I'm not talking to the noise.
1:10:25
Yeah. No. Ignoring the red
1:10:28
flags. Meddiplisone. Yeah. The magenta
1:10:30
flag. Because they went red. The pink. The pink
1:10:32
ones, the magenta ones, you know Off
1:10:34
white ones. Off white ones. Don't do that. Like,
1:10:36
when when it's staying on there, deal with it
1:10:39
before you say,
1:10:39
yes, you know. So So it was on
1:10:41
the horizon for Old Brely
1:10:44
before, you know, outside of her
1:10:46
eatin'
1:10:46
her. Amazing husband. That's not
1:10:48
my fault. Way to meet you. Your future
1:10:50
husband. And guide her. Husband. And I
1:10:52
get this one. Protecta. And I'll let
1:10:54
this know. Let
1:10:56
me ask you this. Before we've been talking about any professionals
1:10:59
now, what do you look forward to the most? You've
1:11:01
been married before. What are you looking forward
1:11:03
to the modes in your
1:11:05
next and final mirrors?
1:11:08
I'm looking forward to supporting
1:11:12
someone. I'm looking forward to giving. Like,
1:11:15
I used to think that I was used
1:11:17
to was looking for what I was gonna get.
1:11:20
And now, I'm so full of love y'all. I'm
1:11:22
bubbling over. Like, I just yeah. You
1:11:24
know, I'm so I can't wait to level
1:11:26
somebody. Maybe you want your back rub. Maybe
1:11:28
you want a back you want me to you wanna
1:11:30
make some for you. Like, I just wanna love
1:11:32
on somebody. Like, I just I really am looking
1:11:35
forward to giving I'm looking forward
1:11:37
to just having
1:11:39
a teammate. I'm looking forward to dreaming
1:11:41
big with somebody and really, you know,
1:11:44
being purposeful
1:11:46
in kingdom building with my guy.
1:11:49
I'm I'm looking forward to just you
1:11:51
know, some of the couples that sit on
1:11:53
this couch I look at them and I'm like,
1:11:55
yes. You got me too? Yes. This
1:11:57
is what I'm talking about. Even once it went
1:11:59
all the way to the brink -- Yeah. -- and say,
1:12:01
we ain't doing this. And now that I look at
1:12:03
them, I'm like, shut out to take it
1:12:05
in, you or shut out to do the Whit Lowe's.
1:12:07
Whit Lowe's. mean,
1:12:10
I love it. Yeah. I
1:12:12
I just I'm looking forward to giving.
1:12:14
I really and I know it just that sounds so
1:12:16
like, oh, that's all, but it's really really
1:12:18
big to
1:12:19
me.
1:12:19
That is huge. Because I
1:12:22
really want my partner. I really wanna
1:12:24
do this life with someone.
1:12:26
Like, if I can see if I'm like, mom, cool. I could
1:12:28
just dane you know, every now and again
1:12:30
has somebody, I don't want that. Right.
1:12:33
Mm-mm. No dating for me
1:12:35
now. Like, I collect data real quick.
1:12:37
I connect I connect dad to, like,
1:12:41
you say some sideways, I'd be like, Check
1:12:44
please. Like, uh-uh. Like,
1:12:46
I'm running through the thing. We ain't
1:12:49
even getting to the second
1:12:50
date. Like, it's not happening. But
1:12:52
I'm I'm happy. Because our game
1:12:54
is strong.
1:12:55
I mean. Sometimes you think it is too
1:12:57
strong. I said, well, if he meant for me, I guess,
1:12:59
God, you'll bring him back. But Well,
1:13:01
I I know one thing that I saw
1:13:03
this video. Praise the Lord on
1:13:05
your
1:13:06
page.
1:13:07
Father God. Yeah. That's what I said when I saw
1:13:09
it. And you were over
1:13:11
here at Jyrating. Jyrating? He
1:13:13
was over at
1:13:13
Jyrating.
1:13:14
The lies you did. You a Jyrating shaking
1:13:16
your behind in in that in that in that, Karl.
1:13:20
I sent that to my homeboys, and
1:13:22
I said, look at this. Look at this. And what they say?
1:13:24
She filed a book. That's what they said. They said
1:13:26
Good. Lord, how much?
1:13:28
You know what? This
1:13:29
is she fine and more. Do you know
1:13:30
how many people sent that to me and said, Brely, this
1:13:32
looks just like you. And I said, I
1:13:34
wish y'all could go out the country so you can
1:13:36
get They didn't think
1:13:37
that was you? Sexualized. They didn't think that
1:13:39
was you? Yes. Everyone thinks it's me.
1:13:41
And I'm like, it's not me. Oh,
1:13:43
that's not you. I said, what's doing that?
1:13:46
It's not me. This I have a
1:13:48
do doppelgangers they call it. It's
1:13:50
not me. My home body shape just like
1:13:52
mine. And I put, like, everyone
1:13:54
was sending that to my inbox. Lord, we can't
1:13:56
believe you did this. But I
1:13:58
put it up too because I, like, women
1:14:01
like us, we don't get to wear the thong, bathing
1:14:03
suit, and go on the beach. What I do, we shut
1:14:05
the beach down. Little to little. You
1:14:07
know, little blue's matter, but we're little blue to be
1:14:09
on the beach. No nobody can. Ain't nobody looking.
1:14:11
No nobody
1:14:12
can. Let me I wanna wear my
1:14:14
baby's suit too. You wanna wear
1:14:15
a thaw and baby's suit too? You wanna wear a thaw baby's suit? Okay. We'll do it.
1:14:17
Let me. Yes. They will. You see is he that's
1:14:19
why I have to have a special type of husband. The
1:14:21
the one that's gonna be, like, my baby. You
1:14:25
know what I'm saying? But it's gonna be together
1:14:27
now. It's gonna look good now. It's smooth.
1:14:29
I know. Tell me that wasn't you this whole time.
1:14:31
I was never you so wrong. So
1:14:33
much fun with watching you, text it to your
1:14:35
friends. That was great. That's it.
1:14:37
I don't know. You ain't introduced me to none of them. Man,
1:14:39
I didn't wanna meet somebody. I
1:14:42
don't know. But yeah.
1:14:44
But I would totally do that though. I wanna
1:14:46
be that free. Yeah. You know, I want
1:14:48
to be with someone who really
1:14:51
allows Brely to be, Brailey,
1:14:52
like, yeah. That's my wife.
1:14:54
I can't even have him sit there for a whole
1:14:56
week since the Prince Albert.
1:14:57
Can you enjoy yourself? How do you tell me what?
1:14:59
About nine thirty
1:15:00
three times. I was
1:15:02
driving that woman out in views. Yeah. It's
1:15:04
on your page. Hope
1:15:06
you get paid off the reels because I To
1:15:09
be more careful. No. Look at
1:15:12
this. Look at this. Look at this. No. I'm not
1:15:14
that because I'm not that free. I
1:15:16
probably would do it, but it wouldn't be no footage.
1:15:19
There would be no footage. Well There'll
1:15:22
be no On the Internet. It wouldn't be
1:15:24
on it. The footage would be in the phone, but that don't
1:15:26
end
1:15:26
it. So yeah. That that's kinda
1:15:28
Oh, that is funny that you said there. That's
1:15:30
hilarious. Yeah. That's hilarious. Well,
1:15:33
listen, Brely. I really enjoyed talking to
1:15:35
you today. Make sure y'all the dear
1:15:37
future Wifey, and
1:15:39
the supporters y'all really support
1:15:42
our guests. Make
1:15:44
sure y'all go out on Amazon, get this
1:15:46
book, the ABCs of
1:15:49
IMs. Like
1:15:51
I said, I read a couple of them. You gave me
1:15:53
this book a couple of
1:15:55
what was it? When you used to go around it? Back
1:15:58
in twenty twenty. Yeah.
1:15:59
I gave you, but when it came in. Yeah. And I was looking
1:16:01
through it that day. It was at at dinner where you had this
1:16:03
group of people. Mhmm. You used to you used to do those,
1:16:05
let's call
1:16:06
mine. Master. Master Mastermind.
1:16:08
Mastermind. Yeah. And so that was really, really
1:16:10
dope. Mastermind conversation with and I still do
1:16:12
them. When I go to different cities, and
1:16:15
I'm gonna be there working on a project that
1:16:17
might take a day out, and I'll
1:16:19
throw up a mastermind. I'll get online and say, okay,
1:16:21
guys. You wanna come to go to my website,
1:16:23
evans dot com, you know, schedule
1:16:25
and come back dinner with me. And I only do,
1:16:27
like, five
1:16:28
people.
1:16:28
Yeah. So it can be very intimate and we can like,
1:16:30
I can get to know you and I've made
1:16:32
some amazing friends that
1:16:34
way, and so that's yeah.
1:16:36
That's cool. Mhmm. Nice to do those. I call it
1:16:39
Brely and breathe, and I go to a city
1:16:41
and and do that. And I need to do more of those while I'm I
1:16:43
need to do more of them too, but COVID kinda
1:16:45
shut me down. I was like, how
1:16:47
are you doing?
1:16:48
Facebook. You know? Right. Only you
1:16:50
like that. You'd be all nervous. But listen.
1:16:52
Love you a lot. I love you too. I'm proud
1:16:54
of you. I'm touching the green with with
1:16:57
you on god connecting you with your
1:16:59
purpose partners so that y'all can serve each other.
1:17:01
I know I hear a lot about you wanting to serve
1:17:04
but I want that to be reciprocated for you
1:17:06
and you find a man that has a servant's
1:17:08
heart that serves
1:17:09
you. I want him to out serve
1:17:11
you.
1:17:12
Come on. Out love you. I want him
1:17:14
to out honor you. I want him to
1:17:16
to go after god to get to
1:17:18
you. So that you can actually experience
1:17:20
what is like to truly beloved by a man
1:17:23
of God. And So I need to tissue.
1:17:27
Got the b. I got the b model.
1:17:29
I really wanna know what that's like.
1:17:31
Yeah. III want that for you because
1:17:34
I've been knowing you for a while and you're just a
1:17:36
very good hearted person. Like, you're
1:17:39
just you're just very genuine. You
1:17:41
don't have any heir about you. You just like
1:17:43
and that's the reason why your
1:17:46
last the guy that you said yes to
1:17:48
was able to penetrate your heart
1:17:50
is because you are so open and vulnerable
1:17:53
and you desire love and you
1:17:55
desire marriage. And I
1:17:57
love the fact that you're in the industry that
1:18:00
marriage the success of marriage is
1:18:02
very you
1:18:03
know, is is waning. You can't you
1:18:05
give you be married for two years and how they would. Like,
1:18:07
oh, you did great.
1:18:08
That's a lot. Okay. Right. You know what I'm saying? But
1:18:10
you you're surrounded in this industry, but
1:18:12
you still have the pure pureness of
1:18:14
heart. Because you saw this representation
1:18:16
of your parents where you say, no, I've seen it
1:18:18
work. Mhmm. And marriage isn't perfect, but
1:18:21
it's but it's worth it. And Well, I'm not
1:18:23
on you
1:18:23
that. Hey, y'all give it up for my homie.
1:18:25
Brely Evans. Y'all. Thank
1:18:28
you.
1:18:29
Ladarious. Thrust it
1:18:31
suddenly into child protective services
1:18:33
in twenty fifteen. My nephew,
1:18:36
Black, a boy. The
1:18:38
likelihood of being adopted outside of kinship,
1:18:41
slim to none. Our mind,
1:18:43
sixteen years old, black. A
1:18:46
boy with five years in the false
1:18:48
care system before I even knew his
1:18:50
name. The likelihood of
1:18:52
ever been adopted
1:18:54
Yep. You guessed it. Slim to
1:18:56
none. While
1:18:58
Ladarian and Armani were trying to survive
1:19:00
and barely thrive in an over populated
1:19:02
and underfunded foster care system, I was
1:19:04
living my own life, doing well professionally, having
1:19:07
been a single father with a daughter who at
1:19:09
that point was doing well in college. It
1:19:11
was my time to live my Wifey. Right? Wrong.
1:19:15
I felt unsettled, tireless,
1:19:18
agitated, there are just
1:19:20
too many of our black children
1:19:23
stuck in ambiguity and
1:19:25
in the limbo of the false care system.
1:19:27
In twenty seventeen, I legally adopted
1:19:29
my nephew, Ladarious. Fast forward
1:19:32
to twenty nineteen, I had no ties to
1:19:34
this other young king, but I felt God instructed
1:19:36
me to adopt him also in Alabama. Starting
1:19:39
over with parenting should have been enough
1:19:41
right, working with various foster care and adoption
1:19:43
agencies to help bring awareness to the
1:19:45
count this young black kings in the fossil
1:19:48
care system should have decreased my
1:19:50
agitation. Right? Join the
1:19:52
board of directors of advanced adoption
1:19:54
in an organization that helps find permanent,
1:19:56
adoptive homes for children in foster
1:19:58
care should have led to some type of resolve.
1:20:01
Right? No. Not
1:20:03
at all. None of it felt
1:20:05
like I had done enough. I
1:20:07
now realized that every
1:20:09
one of those experiences was land
1:20:12
the fundamental foundation for my life mission.
1:20:15
Kingdom royale. Kingdom
1:20:17
royale will be a luxury state of
1:20:19
the art home for foster boys. Our
1:20:21
first location will be in Dallas
1:20:23
Fort Worth Metroplex. We will utilize the
1:20:25
whole person approach that instills identity,
1:20:28
empowers them to advocate for themselves
1:20:30
and enlightens them regarding new perspectives
1:20:33
and limitless options that they
1:20:35
thought were impossible. Though
1:20:38
the young kings will attend the local public schools
1:20:40
that are in auctionity to King of Royal,
1:20:43
our at home curriculum will broaden
1:20:45
their worldview through participating in the
1:20:47
arts, attending various cultural events.
1:20:50
Learning about and engaging in multifaceted
1:20:52
discussions about Kearney events and even
1:20:55
a relevant historical six, introducing
1:20:57
them to gardening and landscaping and
1:20:59
even caring for our animals on
1:21:01
our farm and on-site stables. We
1:21:04
just launched our startup capital
1:21:06
campaign with the goal of raising two point
1:21:09
eight million dollars and now why two point eight million dollars?
1:21:11
Well, in twenty seventeen, I created a web
1:21:13
series in which I performed random acts
1:21:16
of kindness for targeting the homeless community.
1:21:18
One of the most notable successes was that
1:21:20
one of the videos went viral garnering
1:21:23
twenty eight million views.
1:21:25
However, one of my biggest regrets
1:21:27
is that didn't raise a single dollar to
1:21:30
help and implementing a more sustainable
1:21:32
plan for the homeless community. So
1:21:34
throughout the years, with much
1:21:36
remorse, our reflect that I'm not
1:21:38
maximizing that moment. I knew if
1:21:41
at that time just ten percent
1:21:43
of the viewers donated one dollar, we
1:21:45
would have raised at least two point
1:21:47
eight million dollars that could have really
1:21:49
established long term support for the homeless
1:21:51
community or at least started a
1:21:53
long term initiative to do so.
1:21:56
This is my do over. This
1:21:59
is our new beginning. Together,
1:22:01
we can attack this at the root. By
1:22:03
specifically helping our homeless
1:22:05
black boys who are already disproportionately
1:22:09
represented in the American foster care
1:22:11
system. I'm the Terrace r field.
1:22:13
I've been nominated for three regional
1:22:15
Emmys documented my work with the homeless
1:22:17
as well as my personal adoption journey.
1:22:20
Despite those accolades, the
1:22:22
greatest award for me is
1:22:24
truly providing the infrastructure for
1:22:27
a trans formed life. Visit
1:22:29
king of royale dot com for more details.
1:22:32
Crown of king and make a donation.
1:22:35
Today.
1:22:42
Man, I hope you all enjoyed this episode. Listen,
1:22:45
this has been an amazing week. Last
1:22:48
week, I signed to
1:22:51
Jen Miller as my literary
1:22:53
agent. So now it's time to work
1:22:55
on that book. I thank God for
1:22:57
that. That's something I've been praying to NASA God
1:22:59
for. For a long time.
1:23:02
So I hope you all saw the video that I dropped
1:23:04
the other day on my YouTube channel.
1:23:07
Yes. On March the twenty fifth, we
1:23:09
will be in in Atlanta at Newbirth
1:23:11
Church. Make sure you pull up. We're gonna have
1:23:13
an amazing time. We've assembled a dynamic
1:23:16
group of panelists, men.
1:23:20
Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. If you
1:23:22
are watching this or listening to it,
1:23:24
please come. I don't want it to
1:23:26
be a room full of women. I want men
1:23:28
there. I want that good energy from
1:23:31
both sexes to be present in the building.
1:23:33
So please, please. Pull up is free.
1:23:35
You have no excuse. It's gonna be a
1:23:37
groanful of amazing, beautiful,
1:23:40
successful women, and it's free.
1:23:43
You have no excuse. So come out.
1:23:45
My birthday is coming up March the twenty
1:23:47
ninth. So this podcast
1:23:49
is perfect perfectly time because
1:23:52
it's my birthday weekend. And,
1:23:55
yeah, a lot of y'all been DM and me asked me,
1:23:57
what can you get me for my birthday? I've always
1:23:59
shied away from that over the last couple of years.
1:24:02
While doing the podcast. Normally,
1:24:04
just told people to donate to King Royall,
1:24:06
which they did. And people, like, well, I
1:24:08
wanna get you something. So I went and got a
1:24:10
PO box. Yeah.
1:24:13
I went and got a PO box yesterday.
1:24:16
And if you wanna send something,
1:24:18
send it to dear Wifey PO
1:24:20
box, thirty nine thirty
1:24:22
seven Cedar Hill, Texas 75106.
1:24:27
That's Deer Wifey. PO
1:24:29
Box thirty nine thirty seven Cedar
1:24:31
Hill, Texas 75106.
1:24:34
Well, here's my favorite part of the podcast where
1:24:36
I speak to my future Wifey.
1:24:41
Dear future Wifey, these letters
1:24:43
are getting harder and harder to write.
1:24:45
Oftentimes, I sit at my computer for
1:24:47
hours contemplating what to write and
1:24:49
welcome the distractions that break the intense
1:24:52
thoughts of your absence. I
1:24:55
wish you were here. Success
1:24:57
is bittersweet when you don't have that
1:24:59
special someone to share those moments with.
1:25:02
Seeing you sitting on the couch, talking
1:25:05
on the phone when I come home, then
1:25:07
hurriedly stayed, and girl my man is home,
1:25:09
talk to you later. That's what
1:25:11
I live for, to be prioritized.
1:25:15
To be celebrated and not just tolerated,
1:25:18
reciprocity. There's
1:25:21
a quote by Orson whales that states
1:25:24
We're born alone, we live
1:25:26
alone, we die alone. There's
1:25:29
a quote by Orsula whales that stays We're
1:25:31
born alone. We live alone. We die
1:25:34
alone. Only through our
1:25:36
love and friendships can we create the illusion
1:25:38
for the moment that we're not alone.
1:25:41
Looking forward to the moment we create
1:25:43
that illusion with each other,
1:25:47
your future husband. I
1:25:50
hope you enjoyed this episode of The Deer
1:25:52
Future Podcast. Remember, be
1:25:54
lit, live, intentionally, and
1:25:56
transparently.
1:25:57
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