0:00

And we know my joy. She went to jail behind

0:02

that one man with no legs. She's not cheating

0:04

in the house. She had no

0:05

legs. Had a vast baby. She didn't have.

0:07

Tell her you die. I've I've sealed

0:09

and everything else. The best story, Tela, like, all

0:11

this is, like, that's my people love. Listen

0:13

to the our YouTube channel.

0:17

She's saying that you're not caught a man

0:19

cheating on her in the in the house with

0:21

no legs. Yeah. He got no legs. Oh,

0:24

here we go. Here we go. There we go. She

0:30

caught him in a bed with another woman. She didn't

0:32

like to

0:35

Okay. Thank you. Then

0:37

what does she do? Since you already started the story,

0:39

what does she This is a significant part of the

0:41

story. I have to sit like this the whole

0:43

time to dismiss his word. So then

0:46

when she was she was COVID, so she really

0:48

really the Lord, she thought they were bad spirits. Because

0:50

she walked in room with another woman. So she set

0:52

the house on fire, and she stole his crutches,

0:54

and she ran out of the house. No.

0:56

No. Yes. She did. You can Google it.

0:58

Confirm his name was Joyce. I don't remember her last name at

1:00

the time. She's had, like, seven aliases. But

1:03

it's my auntie Joyce. It it shows

1:05

interested in the girlfriend. The

1:07

girlfriend had to pick him up and carry him out

1:09

of the house. Now luckily, this

1:11

was in the eighties when Wifey really didn't care about black

1:13

on black crying. They

1:18

didn't. I never

1:21

imagined. My public healing would

1:23

inspire others to heal across the world.

1:25

I think if we're using him to

1:28

reach the world, with the

1:30

message of hope and relationships.

1:33

But your life does not. God,

1:35

you are my publishers. We

1:38

laugh. We share

1:40

the unadulterated truth. He

1:42

said, not only have I not divorced you,

1:45

I ain't exposed you. Oh. We

1:47

didn't marry fans. We married whoever.

1:50

And we wanted forever to act like a fan.

1:52

Refill her Jesus. I

1:54

will not compromise. Mm-mm.

1:56

I'm getting a woman

1:57

guy.

1:58

You don't have to. And father, I

2:00

declare for his future wifey.

2:03

Thank you for preserving

2:05

her.

2:06

This Symone, either clear miracles

2:08

and manifestation. You sell it scripts.

2:11

And you're unique. You ain't like nobody else.

2:13

I noticed that right away. You being

2:15

true to who you are, you're gonna attract.

2:18

It's a Hebrew word, Haile, and it was

2:20

translated well that it means

2:22

people. It means men,

2:24

it means resources, and it means means.

2:26

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3:11

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3:13

on the podcast because, you know, I always wanna know

3:15

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3:17

much is reality, and how much is real life.

3:19

And so I brought this couple on because

3:21

they gonna keep it lit. You all know the show mantra

3:23

is we keep it lit. We live intentionally and

3:25

transparently. And so it don't

3:27

get no litter than this.

3:30

And so we about to keep it steady. Welcome to

3:32

the Deer Future Wacky Podcast. My new homies,

3:35

Simone Redwine Rashid Flor.

3:37

What's going on people? You for having What's going

3:40

on, sir? Thank you so much, man. Man, man.

3:42

Man, I met y'all I met

3:44

y'all a couple of weeks ago in Houston. At

3:47

a cocktails and conversation event

3:49

that I was hosting. And You're

3:52

awesome. Oh, you're awesome. Opinion negative folks.

3:55

Okay. Alright. Boy, they gonna keep

3:57

that. I like people who like to share their

3:59

views and their opinion. So I I love that.

4:02

Y'all were on the hit show. Owns

4:04

ready to love. Yeah. And

4:07

today, we're gonna name this episode

4:10

ready to marry. Yeah.

4:12

Ready to marry. Ready to marry. Now

4:15

I'm gonna tell you, y'all are

4:17

the first couple that I'm aware of.

4:19

Now you can correct me if I'm wrong. But

4:21

y'all the first couple that I'm aware of

4:23

that actually made it to an engagement

4:25

on the show rated love. Is that accurate?

4:27

Thanks. Yeah. Okay. Alright.

4:29

So I saw the

4:31

season premiere and they had

4:33

you guys on there, and that's when the big proposal

4:35

went down. Symone people

4:37

felt like it happened before that because y'all

4:39

also have a YouTube channel -- Right. -- where y'all,

4:42

you know, y'all share y'all journey and talk

4:44

about stuff or whatnot. So let's go

4:46

ahead and come out the

4:46

gate. What came first? The proposal on

4:48

the show or what they saw on the

4:50

YouTube channel? Definitely the proposal on

4:53

the show. Okay. Proposal on

4:55

the show. As many people know

4:57

and some people don't, a lot of this stuff is

4:59

recorded months and months ahead of time.

5:01

So I get the confusion

5:03

but everything is organic. We're not actors.

5:05

It was it was Not at all. As a

5:07

mom falling on knees. Yeah. Some mom

5:09

falling on knees right back. Crying. I said, hey. No. Why am just

5:11

gonna duplicate that to y side?

5:13

Yeah. No. No. It all happened

5:15

on the same day -- Yeah. -- just

5:17

add later. So first was that

5:20

during the day, and then after he

5:22

surprised me with the best surprise

5:24

engagement party ever and flew

5:26

in thirty of our closest friends and family

5:28

to enjoy that evening for

5:30

dinner and drinks. Why

5:31

was that important to fly them in? Man,

5:34

You know what? One, this was all a surprise.

5:36

She had no idea that she was gonna get

5:38

proposed to -- Mhmm. -- to tell somebody in advance.

5:40

Right? By the way, I'm proposed. Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

5:42

Exactly right. Surprised. So

5:45

the whole deal was she knew we were going on the

5:47

show. Right? Yeah. She knew we were going

5:49

on the Miami season of

5:51

the the latest installment of Ready to Love.

5:53

Right? But she all she knew is we were going

5:55

on as OG's kinda success stories and we were

5:57

gonna kinda coach these new castmates on

5:59

how to go through the process. Right?

6:01

So with that being said, I was

6:03

trying to throw off my trail. Okay?

6:06

So I tried to make her think I was

6:08

gonna propose on her

6:10

birthday. Boo. Bless

6:12

you. We don't want me. I know it. We

6:14

don't want you to do that ever. Don't first

6:16

of all, do not propose on our

6:18

birthdays. And as an attorney, I'm

6:20

also saying don't you do that because then it's considered

6:22

a gift. Okay? If you quote on a

6:24

non birthday, don't do all Christmas

6:26

season. Right. We don't gotta

6:28

give it back. If you change your mind, if we change our

6:30

mind, we'll have to give that ring back. So tomorrow,

6:32

so you have you have the problems with the game.

6:34

Yeah. See, I was I

6:35

was some free advice.

6:37

That was that was free advice that if

6:39

you propose to a woman on her birthday,

6:41

that's a gift, you cannot ask for that

6:42

thing, Beth. So you gotta do it day after.

6:44

Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

6:47

Birthday of Jason. No, Jason.

6:50

My birthday is January fourth. Right? So it's

6:52

right after Christmas. New Year's and

6:54

all that I was like, this is so

6:56

cliche. I literally would be ironing in a

6:58

shirt and be like, please don't pose on my

7:00

birthday. Right. Right. Right. Was that correct?

7:02

You're not gonna tell

7:03

me what the new birthday. So, guys, Like,

7:05

listen to that though. Listen, I didn't know. Yeah.

7:07

Yeah. Some of you guys didn't

7:08

know. So initially, real talk,

7:10

I was trying to propose

7:12

proper birthday, which is January fourth

7:14

this this past -- Yeah. -- twenty twenty

7:17

three. Okay. So long story short,

7:19

I'll try to distract her or throw her off.

7:21

Right? Because the network reached out and said,

7:24

hey, they see our our our story

7:26

on our ages and stages user channel.

7:28

Right? So it's, like, our wedding bells in the future.

7:30

And I told him, yes, I do plan on proposing

7:32

January fourth twenty twenty three. Stop.

7:34

What did they see on the YouTube channel that made them

7:36

feel like this was -- Right. -- last.

7:38

So we share a lot on our on our channel. It's

7:40

called ages to stages. And what we do, it's

7:42

a relationship relationship based podcast where

7:44

we talk about things that we go

7:46

through with different agents' stages of life. We also

7:48

do reviews of ready to love. So we did an

7:50

episode where we talked about moving

7:53

into it together with one

7:54

another, to share that with our

7:55

community followers.

7:56

And we've also done things where we had tough

7:59

conversations weeks. Exchange credit report

8:01

back around the scenes that people don't

8:03

do anything good because that

8:05

made you mad. Oh, yes. Because mom was

8:07

worse than her. Feel

8:09

like I'm here doing background checks on people because

8:11

that's what I do. I love my friends, I'll background check

8:13

their boyfriends without their consent. That's

8:17

what I've looked

8:17

like. I'm gonna love it. I only tell

8:19

them if I find some bad. If I look good, we

8:22

don't have anything to describe it. Is good.

8:24

So I'll write it. At the

8:26

dark top of something, I got an eviction. I

8:28

eviction.

8:29

They filed. I got a dismissed. That was

8:31

me that was me before. What

8:33

happened was they had filed, but I

8:35

paid before, you know, that And

8:37

that was sitting on there for years. You know what I'm

8:39

saying? That was a ninety that was

8:41

a ninety eight. He

8:43

still holds that over by the day. He's a good

8:45

one with the criminal record. No.

8:48

Symone. a criminal record. Came up on the criminal

8:51

Symone. Back on the criminal side. Yeah.

8:53

And it came in on the I was like, the police

8:55

didn't even tell me or

8:56

nothing. I don't have one guy called the police

8:58

on me. Even then I wasn't arrested.

9:00

That's for a different day. Right. We still we tell

9:02

that story. Yeah. Let's

9:03

focus on it.

9:04

So the reason we did all this,

9:07

man, is because I've been divorced.

9:09

Right? Yeah. Me too. Yeah. We didn't have

9:11

those tough conversations

9:11

Symone. Exactly. It was all lollipops and

9:14

rainbows. Yeah. Someone let's have the tough conversations

9:16

of fun. Let's share that with the people. Yeah. Because

9:18

they have followed our journey. They love us from the show.

9:20

Let's continue that. So that's why we call

9:22

it ages to

9:22

ages. So with that, they they have seen all that.

9:25

Right? So my crazy self

9:27

was planning on proposing January

9:29

fourth on her

9:30

birthday. Twenty twenty three. Twenty twenty

9:32

three. So anyway, I

9:34

understand her by, hey,

9:36

I'm gonna do something big for your birthday.

9:38

Let me get all of your friends who

9:40

these I need your most important

9:43

friends, not associates, not people you just met on

9:45

the way in. Mhmm. Right? Not two weeks

9:47

ago. Mhmm. So I

9:49

get those names. So that's what I did. I

9:51

was able to invite yes. I was

9:53

able to invite them to

9:55

Miami in January for this

9:57

surprise

9:57

party. The reason why I did that was because

9:59

what woman doesn't wanna share that experience with her

10:02

friends and family.

10:02

Right? Yeah. Thoughtful. It's different to just make

10:05

a phone call or face to face I

10:07

wanted something tangible so she could hug her

10:09

mom and dad, hug her best friends. Right?

10:11

So that's how I set that up. And then I

10:13

knew I told everybody, hey, make her

10:16

think that this is for her birthday.

10:18

Yeah. Right? So go ahead, baby. Yeah.

10:20

So it was really beautiful that

10:22

he had done that because I'm a

10:24

traveler. I love traveling the first episode

10:25

already. Love. They told me yep. Because

10:28

I ran around asking, Autumn, do you have a

10:30

passport?

10:30

Why sure do you do that? You

10:32

sure did. Because

10:32

I I'm a firm believer. How are you gonna tell me? I'm

10:35

the prettiest girl in the world. You ain't ever been nowhere.

10:36

Oh, wow. Okay. Part of that.

10:38

And secondly, it's a nice way

10:41

to say sir, do you have any felonies? Because

10:43

you ain't got no, you can't be jealous.

10:45

Have you got those? And and you sir, do

10:47

you have any child support arrears? Because you

10:49

can't get on the plane when you watch it. So

10:51

it's a three for one ladies. It's a

10:53

three for Symone. The free game. Free game

10:55

right there. Free game. Free game. Love

10:57

that we were on a trip and we could do that. But

10:59

him being able to get my family

11:01

out there, it made me feel so loved because I'm

11:03

the oldest of three. I'm used to being the

11:05

one to, like, look out for others. often don't

11:07

wanna inconvenience others. Where's your family

11:09

from? Round the corner. Where's your

11:11

family? Yeah. Dallas, Texas.

11:13

Yeah. That's going to about where we at. So,

11:15

yeah, it's it's the mall from here. And so to

11:17

get my daddy, this was on a Wednesday. To

11:19

get my daddy, my daddy is a

11:21

Dallas, Ocliff, Oh, g. Okay. My

11:23

dad is from the West Dallas project.

11:25

Yeah. Water lab poisoning and

11:27

all. Okay.

11:27

The biggest thing. Yeah. So you

11:30

cannot get him airplane

11:32

on the round of Wednesday if somebody is

11:34

not dead. You know? Yeah. To go to the

11:36

funeral. And so that was just wonderful to

11:38

get all of those people out

11:40

and to celebrate with this. So that also let

11:42

me

11:42

know, like, he sees me. He hears me. He

11:44

hears even what I don't say. And

11:46

that's all

11:46

you guys. I flew down here to Dallas unsurprising

11:49

and sat with her parents and did the formerly

11:51

men ask the parents for their hand and men to

11:52

their hands on yard.

11:53

Because I'm a traditionalist. Symone, think that

11:56

way, me too. Out you know, I made her

11:58

think I was delivering a car because that's why I fly all over

12:00

the

12:00

country delivering the cars and stuff to people. So

12:02

I told her, hey, I got this big client I need to fly

12:04

in the Dallas. Her mom actually picked me up

12:06

And I came and sat, spent the night at her parents'

12:09

house. Oh,

12:09

man. That's great. Yeah. That's all

12:11

done. Talked

12:12

to both of them. Her dad kicked them I'm out

12:14

the room. I'm like, oh, boy.

12:15

He's out. Let's talk about that. Let's go. But man, he

12:17

gave me something so profound, bro. What did he

12:19

say? Man, I'm a use this. If we ever have a

12:21

child, a daughter, So talking to him,

12:23

he said, listen, I've been made a long

12:25

time. Things happen. Y'all gonna not like

12:27

each other on certain days in in months,

12:29

and you're gonna get on each other's nerve.

12:31

But just do the work. It's hard work. But promise

12:33

me this. If something goes arise,

12:35

something goes wrong. Return her back to

12:37

me how you found her. I was

12:40

like bars. I was

12:43

like, say no more OG. I'm like And I

12:45

told her, I'm stealing that.

12:47

I said, don't have to explain any I don't need any more

12:49

context. BARS.

12:51

Listen, I wrote a note

12:53

to my I wrote a a contract

12:56

to my my now he's my

12:58

son-in-law. Mhmm. My daughters got married a couple

13:00

well on December the thirtieth. Okay. Congrats.

13:02

Twenty six years old. And

13:04

so they went to college together, and I you

13:06

know, his father isn't present in his life. And so

13:08

I was, you know, the father figured in his life.

13:10

And when I dropped him off at college, I said,

13:12

return how I sent I said I said I

13:14

returned her, how I sent her

13:16

unopened. Right.

13:21

I wrote him, but no. He she hates that to his very

13:23

day after listening. I ain't gave you the hey.

13:25

I did not give you to him

13:27

yet. And I said, you still own know,

13:29

I I own you, but you belong to me. And

13:32

but they they talked about that at

13:34

the at the at the wedding a

13:36

couple of weeks

13:36

ago. And and his

13:38

mom was like, I hate it when he said that. I said, that's what

13:41

fatherhood looks like.

13:41

I don't need your permission. You know what I'm saying? And

13:43

so I love that. And so what he was saying is that

13:46

whatever happens in this marriage You

13:48

know, I want you to make sure that you protect her

13:50

heart throughout. And make sure that

13:52

if y'all God forbid, that

13:54

it didn't work out, that she's

13:56

not so traumatized from from

13:58

some toxic behavior that you had that

14:00

now you she's broken and destroyed, and it's

14:02

gonna take years for her to recover. And

14:04

so that's an amazing thing for him to

14:06

say because he gave you

14:08

grace. He gave you grace in that statement

14:10

to be able to threaten you If

14:12

you do it, I'm a kid, you yeah. Yeah. I'm a all that

14:14

stupid stuff like that. But then do I have a

14:16

word, you know? It doesn't help.

14:18

Well, I feel like I can't come

14:20

to

14:20

you. This to hotels. I'm Wifey, don't

14:23

you don't You you you would tell my daddy on the

14:25

phone. Oh, yeah. They love me. They they

14:27

got hung them all. I know.

14:29

Daddy probably be you doing, baby girl? I was like, I'm

14:31

fine, daddy. Is everything okay? Yeah. Listen.

14:33

Listen. My grub just I just want to

14:35

no. Don't be so hot on it, man. You

14:37

know? He

14:38

really tried. He he ain't

14:40

just big, you know. You got to you

14:43

know, watch out. You talk to people too.

14:45

It is like

14:46

Yes, sir. How does that feel for him to say

14:49

that?

14:49

Wonderful. Why? I am one, I'm glad

14:52

that they have the relationship. And

14:54

two, I know he's right. That's it.

14:57

I I but

14:59

I'm a person who lets the people who

15:01

I know love me give me

15:02

feedback. Yes. Because they

15:05

to love me, you have to let me be me. Like, I have a

15:07

big person now.

15:07

Yes. You do, Samo. Thank you. And

15:10

so I know just a few times.

15:12

Right. And I wanna speak with you

15:14

can't correct me on everything. I won't listen to you.

15:16

Yeah. But I know that the few times that my friends come

15:18

and say, hey, let me talk to you about something. I know

15:20

that they mean it with love. Yeah. Time,

15:22

they're probably kinda scared. Like, how's your daughter miss Mom? Oh, she

15:24

had a pop off of me. So yeah. So I

15:26

know that they were limit and then I

15:28

really love that in some of our toughest

15:31

times, he has called my mom and my

15:33

sister and said, how can I

15:35

best communicate with Symone?

15:36

That's good. That's good, Kain. Yeah.

15:38

That's good. How about it? How was the first time

15:40

I found out he did that. I

15:42

said, wow, I'm proud of

15:44

myself for not cussing him out. Yeah.

15:46

Because the first thing, like, why are you telling them about Right.

15:48

Why are you and

15:48

it might be it Rashid, did it? Like a

15:51

younger or twenty one year old insurance

15:53

Symone would not have received

15:55

it for the blessing it is, which is he

15:57

feels he has a village. Well,

16:00

hear him process, and it's

16:02

not gonna be as someone is always

16:04

right, even though I'm

16:06

their

16:06

family. And I think because we

16:08

have tools like that -- Yes. -- I'm very

16:10

excited about our marriage. When I tell you that's

16:12

beautiful, I need people to hear that. I need that to

16:14

resonate with people. Because at the

16:16

end of the day, we invite all these people to the

16:18

ceremony. We have all these people.

16:20

Sometimes they have the bright side on

16:22

one side, the groom side, on the other side, they

16:24

come together, they walk down to our

16:26

families merge. But then the process

16:28

get into that place, you don't give people the

16:30

space and the grace to be able to speak

16:32

into your so that y'all can ensure

16:34

getting there, and then the form of village

16:36

around you that you can help. Ain't talk about

16:38

telling everybody all your business. Right. But the

16:40

people that you know that re really,

16:43

really can see both y'all and have y'all's best

16:45

interest and say -- Yeah. -- we're gonna make

16:47

this relationship the main thing. It's not a

16:49

Rashid thing. It's not a small thing. I see

16:51

that y'all love each other. Let's help

16:53

keep y'all

16:53

together. And when y'all feel that y'all have

16:56

the support of y'all community pulling

16:58

y'all together and rooting y'all own

17:00

and support y'all y'all will never see

17:02

the courthouse in a

17:02

hundred percent, man. And

17:03

that village I used, I leaned

17:06

on to help this whole

17:08

surprise because she's in touch. She almost caught me

17:10

a couple of

17:10

times. She knows, you know. But, like,

17:13

man, I

17:13

said, turn in. I had

17:14

people call me. Say, oh, she she gave me. She gave

17:16

me Get close. Yeah. Tell me Ashley.

17:18

And I'll put a ring on it, man.

17:20

They know what happened. How how how would you catch a

17:22

window of it? So okay. So I started

17:25

he was being too nice to me, really? He

17:28

would be too

17:28

nice. Alright. So we always had to see It's

17:31

too nice. I've always wanted him to pay for me

17:33

to get my hair on my nails, and I never really had a

17:35

guy do that except for, like, the drug dealer, but

17:37

they don't

17:38

Yeah. Right. Out of that system. They don't wanna

17:41

I

17:41

love the comments you throw

17:42

in the shit. Hello, Joe

17:44

Gilliland. And when I got caught please on me, but I'm gonna

17:46

be able to talk about that. Yeah. He's

17:49

moved away. He's not an issue. Again,

17:52

there's other jurisdictional issues. So

17:55

today. So

17:57

his thing was it was I was like, hey,

17:59

don't you wanna pay for me to get my hair nails done?

18:01

Because he's, like, fancy. And I was, like, oh, my brain had, like,

18:03

their fancy life without, you know, the felony

18:06

issues. And he

18:09

was, like, He was

18:11

like Tell me if I lost you right now. He was

18:13

like baby, I love you. And, you know, I would

18:15

do anything for you, and I'll work really hard for

18:17

you. But I feel like that's personal

18:19

mate. Like, yes, hygiene.

18:21

You need to get your hair, your nails, and

18:23

your hair, then now I will supplement

18:25

it. He'll send me your cash out be

18:27

like, Here you go. Go do you said that that is not

18:29

my responsibility. That is not my household

18:32

chore. And I was

18:34

like,

18:34

man, doesn't get the because he gets his

18:37

picture and his nails like the clear

18:39

window. Pray regularly. So I was like, well,

18:41

you could just invite me. So I'll invite you. But

18:43

first, you gotta do it yourself. Because

18:45

I'll be I'll be narrow. Ygrene is getting the

18:47

stuff and trying to do it myself. Right

18:49

now, like, good job.

18:53

It's been rough. But so

18:55

what happened was the week, like, the week before

18:58

but the week before we were going down to Miami

19:00

to film, I said,

19:02

oh, baby, you think this week you take me to get a pedicure? He goes,

19:04

sure. I said, oh, god.

19:06

He's gonna propose. So I

19:08

covered her, mister Ashley. I

19:10

think he's better do it. She said why? She said because he said he's gonna

19:12

pay for my

19:13

Medicare. That means My your husband

19:15

let you know that he was gonna propose? Yeah.

19:18

Because he was a pay for the pedicure. No. Mine's asking

19:21

you a buy. Asking was one of the invites.

19:23

Invites. Invites. And

19:25

so, Lily, You know about it,

19:27

and she loves it. So she was like, this is my crazy friend.

19:29

Who's how so brilliant? And she knows she's

19:31

awesome. Brismarck. So she's but she was

19:33

like, oh, girl. You

19:35

know, pet care. Maybe you don't want you on TV with

19:38

crusty feet and broken, you

19:40

know, halfway falling off the press on

19:42

nails. I was like, oh, she was like, because you ain't even

19:44

shot for a ring. Like, she was really she was like, Have you been

19:46

shot for me? I was like, no. Like, does

19:48

even know your size? I was like, well,

19:50

no. Look, does you know what style? I was like, no. She said,

19:52

girl, you're not gonna get you not

19:54

wearing. Oh, oh my god. He's not. Mister mayor mayor

19:56

mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor

19:58

mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor

20:00

mayor mayor mayor mayor mayor, to match. I just

20:02

Isn't this? This is ridiculous. You

20:05

just got me living instead. Shitting

20:07

it. Oh, it's

20:09

better than this. I know that I can

20:11

take you serious. And I

20:13

am

20:13

angry, and I mean these

20:16

words. I mean all of the people. So what would

20:18

you say? He got you living in sin? He

20:19

got you living in sin. Definitely.

20:22

Right. Right. Oh, we're not

20:24

barely gonna get into heaven anyway. And here

20:26

you go, just making

20:28

sure I don't meet over the threshold. I

20:31

was livid. And then I said, you know what?

20:33

This is ridiculous. If you're not

20:36

proposing, then I'm going to the Essence festival

20:38

this year. He's like, what the

20:39

hell does that got to do? What did he did?

20:41

How did those correlate? And I was like, you

20:43

know what? Go. Take your cell phone. Take

20:45

your another word. Take your behind. Oh, yeah. He was

20:47

like, take your car. Take your you're not gonna rush me to

20:50

do nothing. Oh,

20:53

man. Just out crazy, and he hung up in

20:55

my face. Mind you,

20:57

it's a week before our Miami trip, before

20:59

she's actually about to get this

21:01

ring. And I'm going to myself. you, ma'am, for real. Yes. You

21:03

bet you, ma'am. Girl

21:05

relax. Like, sometimes, you know, when you

21:07

say you're eating a

21:08

Symone, that? Oh. And that was

21:11

a real was gonna do the next week anyway. Yeah. He's like, oh,

21:13

wow. Associates. He goes so he

21:15

told you that he's actually hung up in

21:17

your face. He

21:19

was like, well, that sounds crazy. I

21:21

said, well, I just wanna be good. He was

21:23

like, why What's his answers

21:25

first? What have I said, Well, I

21:27

thought that you were taking me seriously, so I I'm

21:29

not giving you two government holidays in a

21:31

row. You want my fourth of July and you

21:33

want my memorial weekend?

21:35

That's unreasonable because

21:38

his son's his son's

21:41

birthday is memorial weekend. I

21:43

didn't the entire weekend. Do you know there

21:45

was some there was an entity that was going

21:47

to pay me to wear a bikini -- Yes.

21:49

-- run around in the Dominican Republic

21:52

for free. For free on the

21:54

beach. Celebrate Memorial

21:56

weekend. You know what? One of those, you know, single

21:58

people of it. And I said, no. I'm trying

22:00

to get a ring. All

22:04

facts. -- angry.

22:04

It was very uncertain. Leading

22:06

up to that. See, I'm not giving you

22:08

two government holidays.

22:10

That was unreasonable. Enough

22:13

is enough. Mine's

22:16

you. I've already got

22:18

the ring, designed everything

22:20

ready to go. He was like, oh, it's

22:23

ridiculous. You chose to give me that

22:25

government holiday. It was like it was

22:27

my son's birthday. It was memorial

22:29

weekend. It it wasn't until this moment that

22:31

I realized how ridiculous right now. No. No. No. No. No.

22:33

No. No. No. No. No. Symone.

22:36

So then we had I put

22:38

him through a lot. I had to really come to

22:40

Jesus meeting after that. I know what I told

22:42

him. What'd you say? What'd you say?

22:44

How'd I listen? I'll tell you. I know what you want to do.

22:46

You say it

22:46

again. But when I told her, I said listen.

22:48

I

22:49

told you when we first started dating.

22:51

I am not gonna waste your time. I'm

22:54

very intense Good to you. Because I

22:56

value marriage. I'm a better

22:58

man, married. I value

23:00

it. Yeah. So I'm not gonna waste your time

23:02

online. We're at different aparting

23:04

upon ages and ages. I'm not gonna do that.

23:06

I'm intentional about it. And, no.

23:08

So we're going on the right path.

23:10

Just sit your behind now and

23:12

relax. Like, I'm

23:14

a,

23:14

you know, I'm I'm a real man. Like,

23:16

I'm not gonna play you like that.

23:18

And then you can you can What the hell rate

23:20

on whatever you sit and you sit

23:23

via text. It's sad. I'm not

23:25

like these other brothers that you have dealt

23:28

with. I'm not gonna

23:28

tolerate this immature foolish teacher.

23:31

He said, I love you and I'm going to

23:33

expect the best out of you. This

23:35

immature behavior will not work, it

23:37

is unacceptable, and you need to do

23:40

better. He was like, I love you. I will

23:42

marry you one day, but it will be on my

23:44

time when I am ready and when I believe that

23:46

I can give you the life that you deserve.

23:49

then I was like, yes, daddy.

23:53

I say

23:57

it's okay, baby. I I don't gotta go

23:59

to this. Alright. I

24:02

ain't gotta go to

24:04

this. It's And I gave them two government

24:07

at When

24:08

you say ages and stages,

24:11

what's the age difference between the two

24:13

y'all? We're at let me see. On

24:15

fourth Don't take my

24:17

age. Yeah.

24:19

We're back at five years. Five years. Five

24:21

years. Five

24:21

years. Five years. Five years. I'm I'm older.

24:24

I'm older. I'm about to say, if you're gonna make the

24:26

straight

24:26

Yeah. Because I said COVID stole two

24:28

years from her. Yeah. You're gonna repeat a

24:30

couple of her. Repeat a couple of

24:33

months. Correct. So we all look at that. We all look at that

24:35

journey of that. Could

24:37

she had done anything

24:39

in that moment to

24:41

interrupt? You actually proposed in the next week?

24:44

No. No. No.

24:46

I'm locked in. I was locked in.

24:48

And I I just but you have to accept the person and

24:50

know their personalities and know

24:53

what their triggers are and how to

24:55

kinda center them and bring it

24:57

back. So with that having

24:59

those conversations with her mother

25:01

and sister, that was

25:02

real, bro. I I need to tell you

25:03

how to

25:04

communicate with her. And I

25:05

What did they say? What did they say to teach you how

25:08

to compute? Her mother, man, her

25:10

mother I mean, she doesn't

25:12

get too high or too low. And I called her,

25:14

she said, yeah. Mhmm. That's her.

25:16

Mhmm. She said, well, well, baby,

25:18

this is what you do, and that's how you

25:20

do it. You have

25:22

to meet her where she's at sometimes.

25:24

And you have to be a matter fact with her because she's really

25:26

she went to Cornell Law.

25:28

Like Oh, flipped educated,

25:31

oddly, educator. Okay. Yeah. So I

25:31

called her home educator, ivy

25:34

education. She got the best of both worlds. I

25:36

called all the time. She's she gonna touch you and

25:38

then represent

25:39

and and no. Well, I

25:41

always told him I said, baby don't have to worry. I will

25:43

never murder you. I'm just going to have a very

25:45

expensive slip and fall in your mansion.

25:47

Yeah. I am. And then I'm gonna make an time, and I'm gonna

25:50

be a new engineer, and then I'm gonna own it. Whoever wants to

25:52

lose their fire life. Oh, dude. Still I'm

25:54

there? You can't bring the little girl first over there

25:56

no more. You You'll be alive,

25:58

though. See, I'm

25:58

the girlfriend who's over there. I called her that I

26:00

believe educated party be. That's

26:03

it. She's suppressive. That

26:09

is hilarious. So would love her I

26:11

have to give her things that she can under

26:14

stand. Good. And clarify those

26:16

things. Once she understands and wraps her

26:18

mind around it, and they'll take she'll go into

26:20

her, whatever closet needs to go in, whether that be

26:22

prayer closet or crazy closet.

26:24

You decide, and she'll come out, and

26:26

she'll say, you know

26:28

what? I heard you. I apologize. And

26:30

this, this, this, this, this, and that's how I learned to

26:32

communicate it with her. So you will

26:33

come back and apologize, Miles. Yeah. Yes, you

26:35

do. You had

26:36

to I think that, like, when

26:38

you when you think you're right all the time,

26:40

then you're wrong. Right. Mhmm. And

26:42

if you're never the problem,

26:46

then how how

26:48

you Wifey gonna get any better. Right?

26:50

If you can't critique you, if you can't

26:52

go back and say, well, I could have done this differently. Yeah. Even if

26:54

what you do differently, just pick a different person.

26:57

Like, if somebody don't call the police on

26:59

you. You know, that's just that's one thing

27:01

you can do to didn't fix it by the angle

27:03

called the police. So let's reverse

27:05

engineer this. How did we get here? How did we get to

27:07

this whole engagement? Y'all wanna

27:09

show Colorado of what was y'all's

27:11

connection during that moment. We got a chance to

27:13

witness some of those moments, but take

27:15

us back there. Yeah. We're back there. I think I

27:17

started with being very very

27:19

ready to love. In fact, at the top of the

27:21

year, I was dating a poor

27:22

person. And it was We

27:25

were looking at that. You got a quick throw a say

27:27

Why the talkers? You always throw a say. Right. But

27:29

this is very important,

27:30

ladies. When you when you

27:32

when you Beginning of twenty twenty.

27:34

So until you you were dating a poor person.

27:36

He was poor. And and

27:39

it was and it it it

27:41

was he was just, like, really content with

27:43

it. And he felt that it was my responsibility

27:45

to just be more patient with him.

27:47

He was, like, forty at the time. And

27:49

I was, like, sir, tell

27:51

some results. You know, the rapture could come

27:54

any day now. And

27:56

he was he wouldn't get out of

27:59

my

27:59

house. He wouldn't pay anything towards my

28:01

mortgage. He was like, what's your mortgage? We're gonna pay

28:03

it anyway. He said he said

28:06

he was yeah. He

28:08

said it. He said, well, it was your

28:10

mortgage. You were gonna pay it

28:11

anyway. I thought you give me some time

28:14

to get on my feet. But

28:16

those are his words.

28:19

Wow. I meant I'm drunk in the Dominican Republic.

28:21

Oh, I'm drunk. Dog it gets worked. There she

28:23

goes again. Yeah. Dropped. They went to more

28:24

house. So, like, he had a foundation. And III

28:27

reviewed his resume. And it's the

28:29

criminal background? Yeah. That

28:30

was good. That was good. That was good. He worked in finance. I

28:32

knew it could be too bad. So

28:35

He moved to Texas allegedly for me. He

28:37

was who I was dating at the beginning of the year, and it had

28:39

gotten so bad to get him out. I had to

28:41

I would like leave town and

28:43

I had one of the Google nests and I would turn the heat up really really

28:45

high. Like, sweat them

28:48

out like it was hot yoga.

28:50

We

28:50

ought to take care of it. Yeah. We ought

28:53

to we ought to take the

28:55

direction over the left. No.

28:57

I had to sweat this nigro out of my

29:00

household delicatorade. And then

29:02

they just said, I can't live like

29:04

this. Like, dating at Dallas just

29:06

wasn't for me. It it hadn't worked. I

29:08

said, I have to take my talents elsewhere.

29:13

Yes. So how long did that last?

29:15

Yeah. So, like, a month later, within

29:17

thirty days, I made a plan. I was like, where can I move to? Why

29:19

don't I have to the ball. I moved away from him for

29:21

that real time. Yeah. I moved away from Dallas.

29:23

I moved from him. I said, just

29:25

the quality. It was

29:28

that bad. Said, because these men, I'm gonna go to jail behind

29:30

them. I'm gonna jail behind them. And

29:32

we know my joy. She went to jail behind that

29:34

one man with no legs. She's not

29:36

cheating in the house. She had no legs.

29:38

Had a vast to grasp. Tell her you die.

29:41

After I've still been passionate about it. The best

29:42

story to her, like, all this is, like, that's my

29:44

people love. Listen to her. Are

29:47

you too? That she's

29:49

saying that I caught a man cheating

29:51

on her in the in the house with no

29:53

legs. Yeah. No legs. He was sitting there,

29:55

like, we go. Here we go. There we go. Show them show

29:57

them there. She

30:02

got them in the bed with another woman. She didn't

30:04

know,

30:04

like, the Okay.

30:07

Thank you. Then what does

30:09

she do? Since you already started the store, what

30:11

she did? This is a significant part

30:13

of the store. I have to sit like this the whole

30:15

time to dismiss his word. So then

30:18

when she was she was COVID, she really

30:20

really the Lord, she thought they were bad

30:22

spirits. Because she walked in on one with another woman. So she Symone house

30:24

on

30:24

fire. She stole his crutches, and she ran

30:26

out of the house. No. She did. No. Yes. She

30:28

did. You can Google it.

30:31

Confirmed Hanger's Choice. I don't remember her last name at

30:33

the time. She's had, like, seven aliases.

30:35

But it's my auntie Joyce. It

30:37

it show interested in the girlfriend that

30:39

the girlfriend had to pick him up and carry him out of

30:41

the house. Now luckily, this was in the

30:43

eighties when I really didn't care about black on

30:46

black crime. They

30:51

didn't. So we

30:53

were able to show her her paperwork, like her,

30:55

you know, her crates paperwork,

30:57

to show that it was just a she get allegedly, she got into some bad

30:59

crack when she ran away at fifteen. No.

31:01

This is this is my

31:04

real family.

31:05

And she said, I do. Yeah.

31:07

This is what he signed up for. So

31:10

say that to say, all of that

31:12

Was it Were we going out at the beginning here? It

31:14

was an example of Ben Dallas state. It was an

31:16

example of why I ran away from Dallas state.

31:18

I'm sorry. I was it was an

31:20

example of how difficult day in Dallas was

31:22

for me. Miss, she had to move. She had to take

31:24

those cameras elsewhere. And I met in

31:27

within three months of moving.

31:29

I met him and You ready before

31:31

the

31:31

show? Briefly, I met you. I saw you

31:34

at, like, something didn't meet though, like, he was Yeah.

31:36

I didn't meet him. I

31:38

him around town. And then it was like I think you had that hat on too. I didn't like

31:40

that hat. No. It's a different

31:41

color. I mean, shout out to my guy. I keep the

31:43

James. Wait. Wait. That is very nice.

31:45

It's dead shape. Like, there's a

31:47

different shape that's more flattering. Continue.

31:51

Okay. My point is. Excuse

31:56

me. When we met on

31:58

set, I was like, okay. This is what I

32:00

came down here for, you know? He

32:02

had a degree, he had a passport.

32:06

And actually, ladies, one of the things that I

32:08

really wanted after I

32:09

turned, like, thirty five is I was like, you know

32:11

what? I think I'm a make a excellent second

32:14

wife. You said that? Yeah. Well, I tell you why.

32:16

I tell you why. Because I I heard let me ask

32:18

them say this. Yes. I've heard women

32:20

say that men make better

32:22

second

32:22

husband. So the second time they

32:24

get married, they're better. Mhmm. Why

32:26

do you think that for you to

32:28

even say that before that? I

32:31

believe that because first, I believe there's only

32:33

two types of divorced men

32:35

that want to remarry. There's only two types of

32:37

divorced men. Those who wanna remarry and

32:39

those who don't. And the ones who do

32:41

want to remarry are so

32:44

deliberate. They're so intentional because they don't

32:46

wanna make that mistake again. So

32:49

they and they come with this lack

32:51

of, I hate the word we all use it all the

32:53

time, narcissism. They come with this lack of

32:55

it because they know that something could

32:57

have been done differently

32:58

before. That's good. So they worked to tweak

33:00

and figure out, okay, what were some of the things that I

33:02

should have done differently? And

33:04

then as I enter my new relationship,

33:07

I'm going to focus on honing

33:09

and correcting and doing better than I

33:11

could have done before and know

33:13

and that I can't possibly be always right because if

33:15

I was -- I wouldn't be wise. -- too bear with

33:18

me. Yes. Yes. I said, let me get

33:20

one of them. Guess,

33:26

I'm gonna get one of them. Actually,

33:29

Rosemary.

33:30

So y'all see each other We see the first interaction that

33:32

y'all had. Take the people. Some people may

33:34

have not seen the

33:35

show. Yeah. So take them back

33:38

to that first

33:39

encounter. Yeah. Let me take the mic from

33:41

Yeah. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.

33:43

Come on.

33:43

Come on. Yes. So no. Anyway

33:46

so we gonna send an they bring us in individually and

33:48

-- Yeah. -- mingling. And I saw this

33:50

pretty little thing, you know, she had a, you know,

33:53

nice dress on and all this kind

33:55

of stuff. I'm pastor cliches

33:56

stuff. Like, let's be one of them. I'm a guy with

33:58

visual. Yeah. I gotta see you first. I've been up in

34:00

the queues or having bad eyesight.

34:03

Like I said, okay. Yeah. Yeah. How you

34:06

doing? So I come up to her, she got this little southern bell. She

34:08

could turn that on to the little

34:10

Whitney Gilbert Hey.

34:10

How's that? Yeah. And I was like, hey. How are you doing?

34:11

So we're having drinks and said, hey. How are you? And

34:14

I forget what she said. And she's

34:16

like, I'm doing good. I

34:18

don't know. She said, I'm here for

34:20

love. I said, oh, really? You are? She said, well, what

34:22

makes you think

34:22

that? Because I've been because I'm looking at it. I

34:24

said, well, okay. She she was talking

34:26

about that. Yeah. So, you know, we started talking.

34:29

Okay. Okay. She was she was witty. I love

34:31

with you. I'm a sexual relationship. Witty,

34:33

boy. Me too. Let's let's, you

34:35

know, have that interaction. Let's rally back

34:37

and forth. So at that point, it's like,

34:39

okay. Interesting. Check. And then let me circle back around

34:41

because we're just all moving the group. So we get

34:44

in the midst of things. I start hearing. I

34:46

should start talking to the other guys.

34:48

Oh, someone asking all these

34:50

questions. Passport and and this on the

34:52

third, and you got any baby mama's and stuff

34:54

like that. Yeah. I was gonna ask sports and

34:56

illegitimate children. Right. So

34:57

then we start talking, I

34:59

tell her,

35:00

I'm divorced. Right? She said, okay. Great. I think I'll

35:02

make a great second. I should one hundred. She

35:04

said, like, okay. Cool. Cool. Cool. She Rashid

35:07

that, man. Yeah. I did. was like I have one child.

35:09

I have one son. She said, okay.

35:11

She's like, well, that's fine. You're divorced. So you

35:13

fit my criteria. I said, what do

35:16

you mean? I was like, she said, I

35:18

either like a man where the baby mama's dead or he's

35:19

divorced. I said dead, like, in the divorce or your

35:21

baby mama

35:23

dead. Mhmm. I'm like, what the hell? I never heard of that logic -- Mhmm. -- she

35:26

explained later on in the

35:28

show. They never showed that little

35:31

clip. It was uptake. They never showed

35:33

the little clip. I don't know why. That's gold. That I'm telling you that

35:35

or or

35:36

divorce or in the ground. That's what he told me.

35:38

To be divorced, so your baby mama is dead.

35:42

That's what I want. Yeah. I don't know nobody was just running around or, you know,

35:44

just what do they call it? Can I say nothing?

35:46

Yeah. Run around nothing to people and

35:48

-- Yes. -- creating families and leaving them.

35:51

No. I wanna see that you've tried. Even, you know, I

35:53

mean, work that you tried, that you family

35:55

plan. I wanna know that you can count, you you

35:57

know, that you pick girls and take

35:59

their medicine, or or, you know, whatever like that. But I wanna see

36:01

you make good choices. And so

36:04

if compared to, like, we had another castmate,

36:06

he had five children, five different women.

36:09

Symone I was like, okay. Well, that's not

36:11

quite my style. First of all, that's expensive. I

36:13

know how child support's calculated. That's five

36:15

different households -- Yep. --

36:17

to support. Bye. I was like, yeah, I can come on in

36:19

there. And ladies, let's be realistic. Right? At this point,

36:22

I'm in my late thirties, and I

36:24

want to

36:26

have my preference was two kids. So if he comes with one, there

36:28

we go. That's one that I don't have to be stretched

36:30

out for. You know?

36:32

So I was like, He's

36:35

got one. I can

36:38

add two. I can have boom. My

36:40

two. His child was seven.

36:42

The other thing that I like

36:44

about. Upper reality?

36:46

Tomorrow, I like you better now than

36:48

I did from the show. So many people

36:50

I love that because Hey.

36:53

You. Yeah.

36:53

The ones you didn't

36:54

get to see all of

36:55

her. Yes.

36:56

There's a lot. At first of all

36:57

Yeah. I love this person. Turn

37:00

it

37:00

off. Right? So to to the story of how we got to this point, some of the guys because

37:02

we get the guys Yeah. Some of the guys were turned

37:04

off by

37:05

-- Yeah. -- how aggressive she can be or

37:07

Yeah. I love it. But,

37:10

one, that didn't like, I'm cool with that. You know, I live in

37:12

my like, masculinity. He's like, let's let's

37:14

let's talk. But at the same

37:16

time, I was like, whoa, she's a bit much, and that's

37:19

a little different that I had been used to. Right?

37:21

Right. So we'll get the other talking. So I'm not gonna let anybody

37:23

shake my opinion and somebody else. I wanna find out

37:25

and delve deeper. My my social is already

37:27

on my list of someone I

37:29

was interested in along with a couple other ladies on

37:31

the show. Right? And so behind

37:33

the scenes, I'm trying to yo, I wanna go on a

37:35

date with I wanna go on the date with Simone. And

37:37

me and her would talk about, I'm on a date with you. I'm on a date with you.

37:39

But they have their story arc and we weren't able to

37:41

to gather to get with one another

37:44

quick enough. Right? Yeah.

37:46

So eventually, Wifey got which

37:48

everybody fell in love with the back of the truck date.

37:50

Yes. That was beautiful. Which was dope. I was able

37:52

to set up. I'm in the car business. We got a old

37:54

car. Was that was that your idea?

37:56

Yes. Yeah. I still have he

37:58

actually wrote a note on a

38:00

piece of paper and slid it under my

38:02

room door, and I still have

38:03

it. It was, like, asking me to meet him the next

38:05

day at that time for the day. Right?

38:07

So So like I said, as as a as a

38:09

as a laparis move. Right?

38:10

Yeah. Of course, you know, like, you sit up in the back

38:12

truck in the back. So it's like she shot

38:14

shot and asked me out. Meanwhile, I had already told her, let's

38:16

go out. She's like, cool. Let's go out. Let's go out.

38:18

But it made it seem like she shot her shot first,

38:21

which is fine. Cool. But till we have the day

38:23

and that's when we really

38:25

truly started to fall in love.

38:26

Yeah. I saw it. Because it wasn't open yet.

38:30

You can you can see that

38:31

move. Like, there was no cap, no

38:33

nothing. So fast forward, people

38:35

like to, you know, people in in a type like

38:37

to throw jazz. Well, you were a second pick.

38:39

You were second pick. She never was that. If

38:41

you see that, the way ready to love

38:43

is is formatted It's a I get

38:45

you can get get out voted. Yes. And by that time, all the cast was ready for some on

38:48

the go. Yeah. We just brought everybody the

38:50

wrong way.

38:51

I didn't like them. I didn't have passports, and

38:54

I didn't have kids. I didn't have business

38:56

happen.

38:56

It wasn't right. So I

38:58

just only worry. It wasn't right.

39:01

Right. It was on the show in the men's lounge. I

39:04

was like, yo, Simone is becoming my

39:06

number one. I would love for her to stay a couple more

39:08

days a

39:10

week to for me to delve a little deeper. But she

39:12

gotta go. Right? So she

39:14

was never I was already there

39:18

with her. But I was also speaking truth to some of the

39:20

ladies about some of the men in their

39:22

behavior -- Mhmm. -- that they should just, like, I wasn't I'm

39:24

not gonna tell you don't date this person.

39:27

I'm just going to say, hey, you should just be aware.

39:29

For example, I had seen that

39:32

there was a particular guy who

39:34

who he was changed been

39:36

on whose face he

39:37

was. It was he was in front of. And so

39:39

I just said, you know, just be aware of that fast

39:41

forward. It wasn't until the finale. That

39:43

what I said proved to be true. Right.

39:45

But so it was funny that, yeah, there were some

39:47

guys who were like, oh, she's over here telling my girl

39:49

the truth. And I was like,

39:51

cheese is not for me, and I'm I'm cool with that.

39:54

But I also I get tickled when I hear,

39:56

oh, yours I would never date

39:58

someone if I was their second

40:00

choice. Listen.

40:01

It Go ahead. Go ahead. I I have

40:03

something to say about the everybody for the most

40:05

part. From the mail. So

40:08

I mean, You know, unless you met the the first person you met your

40:10

life, you decide to marry. Where all people

40:12

a hundred

40:13

choice, maybe a choice. It's like that'll

40:15

be as such an immaterial

40:18

statement. Rashid time here. And I also feel

40:20

like

40:20

my philosophy is he's with her

40:22

because he hadn't met me yet. That's

40:24

my thing. That's how I feel. Yeah.

40:26

Dude Because you can't if they haven't if they haven't if

40:29

you haven't allowed it, like, in that situation,

40:31

there was only so much of him I allowed

40:33

him to know of me. No. So

40:35

it's

40:35

not even like he was rejecting me. You can't reject somebody. You don't know. Talk about it.

40:37

Yeah. Mhmm. So at the end

40:39

of the day, in that truck, I

40:42

was able to see how dope she was. And that's

40:44

what now you

40:45

and the world are seeing. Yes. May

40:47

she special about that? Yeah. Yeah. She's dope. And

40:49

and what's so dope

40:52

about it? Is that always say everybody don't have to get your person.

40:54

That's why it's your person. Yeah. Because at the end of the

40:56

day, and then you're gonna be competing with everybody taking

40:58

their attention anyway. And and if it's

41:00

your person

41:02

and y'all click in ways that y'all never click with

41:04

anybody else, then y'all get each other. That's

41:06

what makes it such a special relationship.

41:08

And so that's what I see with

41:10

you guys. Because at first when,

41:12

you know, when thinking

41:14

about interviewing y'all, I was like, what is this

41:16

dynamic? Because -- Mhmm. -- while I bring people in my

41:18

podcast is very specific. I

41:20

got a really I I like

41:22

it. We got to

41:24

click. It's like it's it's they're they're

41:26

they're a part of my journey. This podcast

41:28

is my online journal.

41:30

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's my online

41:32

journal as I discover, uncover, and

41:34

recover love. So people that I bring on

41:36

the podcast or people that I either present

41:38

my past, my present, or my future, something I desire to

41:41

obtain in love. And

41:43

so with y'all, by been

41:45

a place where one of the days I wanna

41:47

I'm developing a reality show. Mhmm. But in

41:50

the reality show that I'm trying to develop

41:52

is how to create real

41:54

authentic connections. Instead of

41:56

making it so much of a competition

41:58

type of thing. Right. And so I

42:00

was like, will this actually work?

42:02

Like, what what what is birth out of

42:04

these reality shows? Can you really

42:07

get true authentic love? And

42:09

so it's beautiful that even behind

42:11

the scenes y'all had this connection on

42:13

the show because they provided

42:15

that opportunity. And then after the show,

42:17

y'all begin to

42:20

cultivate that. Yeah. So she gets voted off the

42:21

show, then what happens? How do you feel? So she gets voted off

42:23

the show, Mike Dang. So if people who

42:25

watched it, I had another love interest at

42:27

the time. Right? I was

42:29

in kind of quad triangle or quad whatever. And

42:31

four people yeah. There you go.

42:34

So so

42:37

I'm a young another young lady, and she was interested in

42:39

myself and another guy.

42:40

Right? Right. And then at this point,

42:42

we're going along the process, and I'm

42:44

a competitor now. No, Michael. I'm just try I'm trying to -- Yeah. -- trying

42:47

to win. Well, I'm trying to win. And she's a great girl.

42:49

Don't give me nothing negative to say about her at all. And

42:51

the guy the other guy she

42:53

was interested in Good

42:54

dude. Me and him communicate. He just sent me a text every

42:56

day. Congratulations. Good. January sixth,

42:58

the the reveal of the proposal. Right?

43:01

And at this

43:04

point, like, let's ride it all ride it all the way out. I don't wanna be

43:06

looked upon as a quitter and things

43:08

of that nature. And once you do that,

43:11

Own can then write their

43:13

own story

43:14

line. Because I almost considered self eliminating. I

43:16

mean, I was this close to self eliminating.

43:18

Like, you know what? Let's just ride it out. So a lot of people saw how things

43:20

went and transpired in the end when

43:23

I was clearly I

43:26

was actually I may not give

43:28

you some real behind the scenes. So I was about to self eliminate. They set

43:30

up a whole episode

43:32

or scene with me and

43:36

Tommy. Me and him by ourselves. Like, at fire

43:38

pit at night telling him why

43:40

I was ready to

43:41

leave. Right? And they were they were

43:44

okay

43:45

with it. They were cool. They didn't want me to go. I

43:48

have my last

43:50

scene with the young lady and

43:53

the parents were coming in town. Right? And

43:55

I decided my sister was going to be aired,

43:57

but we decided to do something a little different

43:59

because I was feeling something different.

44:02

Yeah. So I was about to self believe me. Everybody could tell that it was just

44:03

Symone my demeanor. Yeah. And her dad was there. And she's

44:06

like, you don't want me my dad? I

44:08

start thinking, In

44:10

a split second, nobody knew I was

44:12

gonna decide to stay. Everybody was ready for me

44:14

to give my concession speech and walk

44:16

on. You know, got you got this

44:18

engine

44:18

on this You know what? I said, that's

44:20

quick. You know what? If you leave this show,

44:22

they're gonna create their own

44:24

storyline. You're a quitter. You wanna work for anything.

44:26

And I showed I thought I showed everything. I left it all out there on the

44:28

field. So how intentional I can be and I

44:30

try to communicate well. So you're like, you know

44:33

what? I'm a stay in me till dad. Let me go and stay

44:35

in me because at that

44:36

point, it was towards the end anyway. I already knew

44:38

what our decision was gonna be. Yeah. And I

44:40

respected it, but at that point, it was about me.

44:43

Let me just end this the right way. Yeah. So that's

44:45

how it ended. And before she left, if

44:47

you see when she got let go,

44:49

all my homeboys, will tell you this. We were all standing up.

44:51

It was a group elimination. So, got eliminated. She got eliminated. She was

44:54

standing right next to me. And

44:56

she bear hugged me before

44:58

she left. And it was the

45:00

camera we was already there -- Yeah. -- for the most

45:02

part, and she and she left, and

45:04

she texted me blah blah blah. And she told me

45:06

this when we got back. She

45:08

was like, I don't know where me and your road is gonna

45:10

end or or begin or end

45:12

or how to what level our relationship is

45:14

gonna

45:14

be. So all these little girls, you're gonna

45:16

get in your d m's after this show, and you're

45:18

gonna travel the world and do what you wanna

45:20

do. You're

45:20

gonna be this -- Yeah. -- you know, this man

45:23

this influencer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

45:25

I'm

45:25

gonna be in your life one way or another.

45:28

We're gonna be friends or we're gonna

45:30

be lovers or whatever. I like

45:31

that. And

45:32

it'll it'll shake and found. That's the wrong folks, the

45:34

that's the wrong, wrong, wrong, aren't

45:37

you? Yeah. And because I

45:39

felt like, like, wrong

45:41

folks love isn't it's not just about what makes you

45:43

happy. It's about what that person needs to

45:46

feel fulfill. And in this

45:48

instance, when

45:50

in completing the show. I felt he needed time to count, like, almost,

45:52

like, recalibrate -- Yeah. -- to experience.

45:54

What is it like for people to

45:56

recognize you when you go play? Yeah.

46:00

Even told him, I said, well, you know, you're so handsome. You're so kind.

46:02

Who was your child? Who was, like,

46:04

your college? Gretch, you say, as Sean,

46:06

I

46:06

say, you should go in her DM. Well,

46:08

you'll

46:08

you'll you'll coach him right now. She's a big whasser

46:11

in the work Whoo. Whoo. Whoo. Whoo. Whoo

46:13

are you doing this? I really did want him to go through

46:15

first of all, I knew he was coming

46:17

back to me. I worry about

46:19

that because I let him fall in love with my

46:22

mind

46:23

before anything else. So

46:26

I wanted him to have those experiences.

46:28

Oh, you're

46:28

pissed. I didn't find out you a whole pissed by

46:30

this. Oh, yeah. Well, this is a whole not story how she

46:33

tried to pin Casey's move from her

46:35

side. That was

46:37

a really good idea. That was You're

46:40

you're saying go out there the

46:42

DM's. Because you said you know you knew for a fact he was coming back.

46:44

I knew he was coming back. Why? Tell me why

46:46

can't you be so sure about this?

46:49

What I offer, I

46:52

can't I can't articulate you

46:54

have to just experience it, and I know that

46:56

it's not for everyone. But

46:58

largely from the back of the truck

47:00

date when III

47:02

created a safe vulnerable place for

47:04

him. Yes. And I asked him tell

47:07

me about one of your insecurities

47:09

from childhood. Mhmm. Yeah. We talk

47:11

about that. Of how you

47:13

love a man. Hold a good

47:15

stop. Hold on. I'll let I'll sit there. Receipt.

47:21

Rashid did you feel in that moment? Well, she's telling the truth

47:23

to me. I was like, wow. This

47:25

is something new for

47:27

me. And, right,

47:30

she opened up because I'm at this point. Yes.

47:33

Right? Because

47:33

I've been divorced.

47:34

Yeah. And, you know, everybody

47:36

says you get married to

47:38

statement. Right? And I

47:39

took my divorce very hard. Very hard. You know what

47:41

I'm saying? So I did the work. I did all the

47:43

counseling. I did that and worked

47:46

on

47:46

myself. And I had to make sure

47:48

that my son was prepared first before

47:50

I was able able to open my heart

47:52

to her or anyone at

47:53

the dentist. So I did the work and I know

47:55

kind of what I needed

47:58

to be successful in a new

48:00

space of chasing a relationship or

48:02

or valuing someone and then

48:04

valuing me and she gave me that opportunity because, you know, this man, we

48:06

all the time. We don't feel we

48:08

always can have a sounding board that we

48:10

can come

48:12

and release all of our hopes, dreams, and fears, and aspirations

48:14

too. Right? And we may be we

48:16

may get some of

48:17

that, but you don't get all

48:19

of them. Symone. Exactly. You don't get

48:21

all of it in that one person. Right. When you get

48:24

that, that's why she could sit back and

48:25

say, he come back. Right.

48:28

So that she she's not she's telling a a hundred percent facts there. But

48:30

at the same time, she was living her life too, the

48:32

whole

48:32

life. Don't get to this. Don't get to this. Don't get

48:34

to this. Let me tell a story.

48:37

Anytime. Tell us the reason you go is Oh, god. I was

48:40

not here living. She was too.

48:42

He flew it out. We texted

48:44

you in Dubai. His name

48:46

is in the maldives. Oh my god. Hold

48:48

on. You don't know how frugal you are. You ain't

48:50

there for that? Not at all. Miss

48:52

me. Like, miss me. Don't try to put it all on me. And was on,

48:54

like, bro. And that's saying What's about you?

48:56

What's about you, Namadi? Yeah.

48:59

I was like, hey, do you wanna

49:01

FaceTime? Who who's ocean in the background? Right. Don't try

49:04

to play these

49:05

people. Don't don't do

49:07

But, Russ, do you see how much y'all face time? You watch

49:09

y'all the trip where the hell it is?

49:11

Oh, man. So and that's same

49:14

time. You saw no fee. You saw

49:16

no method. It was just

49:18

me. Come out of my d's by

49:19

myself. Come on. Go

49:22

ahead. And you had she

49:24

did have a couple girls with her to camouflage

49:26

it had one or two. Yeah. That's right. They don't play me back. It's, like,

49:28

twenty eight days. Why not that type of

49:30

budget? I'm good at twenty eight

49:32

days. Yeah. Yeah. So I went

49:36

back in four to

49:36

the But between the basketball team. She's my my best black

49:39

life. You've ever twenty eighteen. Yeah.

49:41

Like, man. Yeah. I just yeah.

49:43

I'm I'm sorry. I

49:45

was I'm at for investment. Where he said, don't

49:47

you talk to me? That's

49:50

right. So and all this kind of stuff, I'm living I'm

49:52

not chewing we'll talk I'm trying to stiff

49:54

armor. Yes. I can't because she was

49:56

on me, bro. Don't don't let anyone else. Like,

49:58

Jesus. So I was like, yo, I'm trying to live

50:00

this best life. I got down too. Let's let's pause

50:02

the break. I know where you at.

50:04

You know where I'm

50:05

at? Right. We know each other be back. Right? Right. So, yeah, it

50:07

was

50:07

cool though. I

50:08

think everything happened in the right time and I

50:10

love it. So how long was that phase?

50:14

That No. I'll be back. You don't call it? I'll be back later.

50:16

Yeah. We were both there in

50:18

the group. I would say it was from roundabout, like,

50:20

what was it? November, December ish.

50:23

Until, like, March. Right. And I had a girlfriend that's So about

50:26

six months. About five to six months. Yeah. Five to

50:28

six months. Right? Yeah. You had

50:29

a girlfriend. You had a girlfriend. Some

50:32

more inside information

50:35

to talk about allegedly. No. Hold

50:37

on. Your mic is off.

50:39

Alright. So we go to

50:41

the airport. So I'm a rewind.

50:43

So we're in the height of

50:45

the pandemic. Right? We're in a hida panda. Yeah. So

50:47

our episode is so unique. We're the only one that

50:50

weren't in our city. It's a Houston based

50:52

cast, but we were

50:54

shipped to a mountainous

50:56

we were at a -- Yes. -- lake resort

50:58

in the northern mountains of

51:01

Georgia. Yeah. So

51:03

this was before vaccines and everything. So it flew us

51:05

out. We had to get tested twice wait.

51:07

Three times a week -- Yes. --

51:09

we were we had to quarantine

51:11

in our room for five days. But I was like, we didn't

51:13

print it. They was bringing the food to your door.

51:16

You know, push ups in the in the in the

51:18

room because I can't come

51:20

out. Right? But, anyway, so we all get dropped off. So when the guys get

51:22

together, we start talking. Dropped off the airport. Oh,

51:24

yeah. I got the I got the story. You

51:26

remember y'all might as well. So

51:28

Yes. Sir. When all when

51:30

all of y'all start talking, I get some

51:32

inside information. She gets dropped off

51:34

at the airport leading Houston to start

51:37

our show. Bye, dude. And kiss

51:39

his dude. Actually, like, we're about let me go. Hey.

51:41

Kiss me. Samantha.

51:44

Samantha. Cementing.

51:46

So she had a boyfriend. He

51:50

was not my boyfriend. Okay. He

51:52

What was he? What was he?

51:56

He was someone I was exploring. I told him we need to see Jesus

51:58

wants me to do this. Jesus. We don't

52:00

see what Jesus has in store for us.

52:04

Yeah. Okay. At the end of this experience. Okay. We would

52:06

determine where our relationship would go

52:08

at that point. Did y'all have any agreement where you

52:10

said,

52:10

hey, don't be falling in love with nobody. Don't be

52:12

sleeping don't be whatever. I

52:14

I could make him any promises. I said, I'm

52:16

not your girlfriend, so don't don't do that.

52:18

Yes. Before that, yes, be like,

52:20

go by his grandparents and stuff. I said, I don't

52:22

think we should do that. It wouldn't be right. We don't wanna confuse

52:24

that woman. She's on a

52:28

last leg. That

52:37

information get leaked up with the guys then, Huntsman. One of

52:40

the guys can have fun. Oh, don't you

52:42

take the mouth? Darn it.

52:43

He No. The g d part. Yeah.

52:45

I think star

52:47

I think I'm sorry. But -- Yes. -- hate

52:49

her. I hate her on her cast. Yes. I'm

52:51

more than one. Not just him. No.

52:53

Did people talk to me? Yeah. Oh, I'm

52:56

sorry. How do you

52:56

saw how you do it? Yes. We

52:58

got that. Yeah. They saw we were You

53:00

all get into the

53:01

everyone in the same territory. And at that point,

53:04

nobody was Yeah. For real. Yeah. So you saw other black people, you're like, oh,

53:06

they're probably gonna be on

53:08

okay. I was like, why and I was so and I was like,

53:10

why would he do that? I was like, he's already trying to

53:12

sabotage me.

53:14

That's why we don't go together. You

53:16

see, you're kissing you're kissing me down the

53:18

plane back on here. Here we go. I think I think

53:20

I'll see from myself. Here we go.

53:23

Boyfriend. That's why I was like, you don't get to nominate yourself my

53:26

boyfriend. I get to consent. You know? He had

53:28

some reason to believe.

53:30

It was your boyfriend. No. Like this

53:32

man got sick from the movie man and just call it, like, come on now.

53:34

I had known him for twenty years. He

53:36

should have expedited that process. It's

53:40

not my

53:41

fault. He should have been pick me or

53:44

vice versa. You don't get to squeezing here

53:46

because it's a pandemic and

53:47

get bored. At pandemic level, something else. Yeah. Goodness. But yes.

53:50

You you you people were used just with

53:52

people

53:52

by default. Mhmm. People like you. I see

53:54

you. Yeah. Like, I really He knew

53:55

he was serious

53:58

I was I was in the Maldives and stuff like that. And he

54:00

called and he said, so so when you're coming back, I

54:02

said, oh, I think I'm gonna come back on Thursday.

54:04

He's like, who finally? He said,

54:07

You want me pick you up from the

54:09

airport? There it is. I said, oh, got

54:11

them coach. Got them. Because nobody wants to pick

54:13

you up from the airport in this day. That was a

54:15

man will send you a Uber He would he would do

54:17

a a lift. He would do anything except for I have to go himself,

54:19

waste his gas, and sit there. Yep. Especially

54:21

when you're coming back in

54:24

a NASH

54:24

Yeah. So when he did that, I was like, this man was raised right,

54:26

and he misses me. Did

54:28

you miss him? Yeah. I did it.

54:32

Oh, yeah. What

54:34

did you

54:34

miss? So why she's sitting over here on this trip? did you

54:37

not let your ego get involved? Man,

54:39

because I knew

54:40

I didn't have

54:40

any claim or attachments on her? Symone,

54:43

I'm not I've never been one. I'm

54:46

confident in myself. Yeah. And what I can

54:48

bring to the table, I've never been a

54:50

jealous person. I was like, let

54:52

let her live. And because

54:54

to that point, like, she's gonna

54:56

say, I'm I'm just different.

54:58

Not better, not worse, just different.

55:00

I was okay. But then and, again, I wasn't sitting at home

55:02

to them at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

55:03

Yeah. Or since they received we keep

55:05

this energy. Yeah. We

55:08

don't match energy is important. We imagine energy. But I saw enough

55:10

in my okay. Let's really pursue

55:12

this. So when she gets back, let's date

55:14

with

55:15

more intention. So

55:17

you knew that. You knew that at that point that when she

55:19

came back, you're gonna spin it to a different level than

55:21

that. Yeah. And then the two

55:22

day, you could take it. When she got

55:24

back, we've been together ever since. Yeah. So why

55:27

was that? What was it? What was it in her absence, in that

55:29

connection that y'all met originally that

55:31

made you say, I

55:33

I don't I've been out here in these streets. I don't see it for

55:36

myself. I want her to get back.

55:37

Mhmm. And I'm I'm gonna start something on

55:39

a different level. Man,

55:42

it was It was a conversation

55:44

we did have when I guess she stepped away from whoever she

55:46

was visiting. But

55:49

no. But she you know what? It's just

55:52

she said, hello real quick.

55:56

Anyways, what you're doing? Yeah. But I

55:58

saw at the same time, she was

56:02

giving me

56:03

herself, and she was showing me she wanted to get down with me

56:05

as well. Yeah. Yeah. It

56:07

wasn't like I was because clearly, I

56:09

do don't mean nothing to

56:10

show that hitting you and I'm a big advocate. Yeah. And

56:13

I know we're pulling in the same

56:15

direction. Let's go. Let's

56:16

go. Let's go. So that was more the the gist

56:18

of, like, okay, now I'm gonna

56:21

go ahead and put the four chord press. I'm gonna

56:23

do now my courting of you. Yeah. I'm

56:25

gonna show you the courting and be

56:27

show a wrist and show you the

56:29

whole nine. Because at that point, a conversation.

56:31

We were attracted to one another. Our conversations

56:33

were good. We were, like I said, pulling the

56:35

same direction. We wanted the same things. So now

56:38

let me go and go ahead and really really court you and, you know, bring you around with my friend's family

56:40

and my she hadn't met my son

56:41

yet. So that was a big step. That's the next

56:43

step. Mhmm. How long did it take to get

56:45

to that step? I was

56:48

in

56:48

in months. When was the time she came back? Yeah. I don't know that when did

56:50

she come back? It was it was right after I came back.

56:52

Okay. It was right around there. Right. Because they right

56:54

back dump same time. Until we

56:57

Yes. Same months. Same months. Yes. So,

56:59

again, I didn't wanna play

57:01

with it because I didn't wanna

57:03

waste too much time. So, okay. We had

57:05

some initial conversations. I hung out. I said, okay. Do you

57:07

even a person? She loves

57:10

kids? And she's really good with them. And we

57:12

had to same kind of

57:14

parenting goals and what she wanted in her life. So I

57:16

was like, okay. This is the next step. Because I don't

57:18

wanna waste my time. Yeah. So this is the next

57:20

step. Meet him. In a

57:22

casual setting, and then boom. She loved it. She loved him

57:24

and he and he hit it off with her, and then there we

57:25

go. I want y'all to explain it real quick. You say casual

57:28

setting because a lot of people are dating

57:30

with kids. When you said

57:32

casual, how did how did you bring this meeting

57:34

together?

57:34

What was the first meeting? It

57:36

was Salt Salt Lake Steakhouse. It was a

57:38

restaurant Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Yeah. So loves saw

57:40

grass. So So that breed took

57:43

it. Yeah. Boy. So

57:45

we'll just mean that. Him

57:47

and dad. Yeah. I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna

57:49

have a friend of mine come meet us here. Yeah. That's what I

57:51

do. If she can come, she can leave. Is that what she

57:53

She just coloring. She came,

57:55

sat down, met talked in for a little

57:57

while. She said, okay. I'm gonna let boys finish your father's son time, and she

58:00

left. Perfect. And I didn't know she's gonna

58:02

do that.

58:03

Oh, man. What made you do that? That's very smart. What made you

58:05

do that? Because I I know how much you appreciate

58:07

that time, and he only gets him every other weekend.

58:10

Yeah. And so for him to

58:12

not have that much time with

58:14

him. I didn't want it to monopolize by

58:16

a growing folks conversation, but

58:18

also because part of how reason we

58:20

were meeting is he was in the dog house that was

58:22

first time that was my first step

58:24

with him. Yeah. And it was something small. I

58:26

just bought the house. A miscommunication of

58:28

why he told me he was like, hey, I really need your

58:30

help to look over a contract

58:32

or

58:32

something. On Friday. Can you help me and I'm really gonna come look at the

58:34

house. Right? And it's Oh, look at the house. Yeah. And then

58:36

And it was But it came my cousin came

58:39

by us too. And I go on Instagram and it's his him and

58:41

his closing on the roof smoking cigars. And

58:43

he was like, oh, I'm sorry. And I

58:45

didn't rearrange my whole evening. I didn't put

58:47

on my makeup. You

58:49

owe me thirty two dollars for that mat. Okay.

58:52

So I will.

58:54

So I was like, oh, he's slick.

58:57

He is now to kinda get out

58:59

of the dog house. He's showing me how

59:01

much he cares because I get to meet his

59:03

son, but I looked at him and I say, you

59:05

know, we got to talk later.

59:06

And he said, yeah, baby Mhmm. We we

59:09

never had the

59:09

conversation. Maybe it's our

59:12

mouth. No.

59:14

Because that moment

59:14

Symone meeting his son was superior to all the other nonsense. He

59:17

wasn't just using it,

59:18

like -- Yeah. -- to to do a thing,

59:20

like, when he was And

59:23

I think I know you were serious too because I

59:25

don't really do it to people that I don't do it to

59:27

people that are not my boyfriend. Yeah. If I want

59:29

them to be my boyfriend.

59:31

Know, if I just want you to be some muscle, that's a different

59:34

story. But here, I

59:36

knew that I wanted to set the substantial

59:38

so I made him wait. And never me any with that. And like I

59:41

said, that that six months or

59:42

whatever, he wasn't sniffing it. Yeah.

59:45

No. I definitely I definitely

59:48

I've done that before in other relationships. I wanted wait before we

59:50

got to the physical because all

59:53

of the cool, you know,

59:55

we being, you know, looking

59:57

at each other like, you know, to to, you

59:59

know, dogs and heat. Yeah. That's gonna

1:00:02

subside at the end of the day.

1:00:04

Yeah.

1:00:04

Eventually, I wanna know if we can match each other's energy when we're sitting

1:00:06

on the couch and there's nothing to say.

1:00:08

Yeah. And we're watching TV

1:00:09

and -- Yeah. -- can we have that

1:00:11

kind of energy? Because

1:00:13

the physical stuff is gonna fade. So I was cool

1:00:16

with it at that point. So I'm

1:00:17

like, okay. Cool. So it it it wasn't and

1:00:20

it wasn't, like, you know, so Wait. Wait. Wait. Let

1:00:21

me do it. I didn't do

1:00:23

it to her. I'd like to act that way and and

1:00:26

okay. I'll I'll I'll wait for her and then go do it to

1:00:28

other people.

1:00:28

That's what I want to know. If you

1:00:30

do.

1:00:31

That's what I want to know. I wanna know. Do

1:00:31

with me. Yeah. I I they didn't hurt my feelings. They helped

1:00:33

me. Something with me in my

1:00:35

preparation. Understood. So I

1:00:37

wanted to come into it the right way. And again, I've done it

1:00:40

before. So it wasn't no issue for me. So I

1:00:42

didn't waiting for you and then saw my wall oh,

1:00:44

somewhere else. I was cool, chilling.

1:00:47

But I was gonna say, I I think also that

1:00:49

is part of what made me feel very

1:00:51

okay with with not only

1:00:53

saying, hey, you know, Go

1:00:56

explore. Yeah. And I'm also confident that you're

1:00:58

coming back. I wasn't confident because I didn't

1:01:00

just laid it on him so late. No. It

1:01:02

was deeper than

1:01:02

that. It was bigger than that. And I knew that I

1:01:05

would be okay because

1:01:07

I hadn't given myself

1:01:09

to him. Mhmm. Fax,

1:01:11

who would have thought? Who

1:01:14

would have thought. Y'all crazy stuff sitting over here waiting in the half six. Yep.

1:01:16

Mhmm. And I tell you that all the

1:01:18

time, I was like, man, probably people

1:01:21

think you just swinging from

1:01:23

me. Yeah.

1:01:24

I said,

1:01:24

what's up? What's up? You're breaking back. What's up? Why

1:01:27

would you think?

1:01:30

I don't know. I thought that.

1:01:32

Yeah. We went from the chanderly

1:01:34

as I said, I think that a lot. I

1:01:38

I got

1:01:39

it. If you get that last get that a lot. I'm sorry

1:01:41

to hear that. You too. I'm

1:01:43

sorry to disappoint you. Like that. If

1:01:45

you're not a boyfriend. But

1:01:48

it's scram. Mhmm. Better scrap. Okay.

1:01:52

Smile. So

1:01:55

you felt like if you had sex with somebody, they had to

1:01:57

be a boyfriend. Yeah. Because I worked

1:02:00

I worked at the catholic school, like, all the way through.

1:02:02

Yeah. But also, like, my

1:02:04

friends that at so in

1:02:06

in the tenth grade, I dated the captain

1:02:08

of the faulty fixata. You know

1:02:10

my name

1:02:10

names, but he dropped me because I

1:02:12

wouldn't do it to him. And then

1:02:16

he was in love with me for, like, the next decade

1:02:18

because I wouldn't do it to him.

1:02:20

And I

1:02:21

said, wow. Think I'm

1:02:24

on the sum.

1:02:26

Yeah. Same to me. And

1:02:29

my mother had always told me when I went off to college,

1:02:32

she said, look, if you're a good

1:02:34

girl, you're gonna have some very lonely

1:02:35

nights. By that means waiting enough.

1:02:38

Yeah.

1:02:38

Good girl, you're gonna have some very lonely nights. But

1:02:40

if you're a naughty girl, you're gonna have some

1:02:42

very lonely nights too. So I

1:02:44

tell your mom will be laying it down too. She

1:02:46

said, because with the with the good girls, it's gonna at first, the guys

1:02:48

are gonna like it, then they're gonna figure out, oh, she's

1:02:50

a good girl. But then they're gonna start calling you

1:02:52

again around about the junior senior year.

1:02:55

when their come to town, when they have the football

1:02:58

banquet, the basketball banquet, they're

1:03:00

gonna wanna take you. The naughty girl, they're

1:03:02

only gonna call her at the nighttime. She don't get to

1:03:04

go. No. They don't take out of

1:03:06

shounis. They don't take out of

1:03:08

movies. Those are cafeteria here that

1:03:10

were made Well, no. Those big Shounis boys. They

1:03:12

don't want that what is the truth. Yeah. They

1:03:14

they don't get to go out in public. You know, they might get someone left over from cafeteria

1:03:16

to schoolhouse. But she said,

1:03:18

I don't want that for you. And

1:03:21

know, so you just decide you wanna be a good girl or not a girl. And

1:03:24

so I said, okay. I

1:03:25

know. And I was I like that. I

1:03:27

like that. My girlfriends in college when the

1:03:29

time came, they were either I

1:03:31

said, I had a boyfriend, you know, we've been

1:03:33

together, whatever. And I said, well, I think I'm ready

1:03:35

to do it y'all. And my

1:03:38

girlfriend said, They

1:03:39

said, don't do it, because once you pop, you can't stop.

1:03:41

And I said, oh my

1:03:44

god. No. What

1:03:47

am I gonna do now? Shoot. So I said, okay.

1:03:49

I'm

1:03:49

gonna make a rule. She's doing my bill with

1:03:51

me from

1:03:53

a different world. Southern

1:03:56

Europe. What am I gonna do now? Goodness

1:03:58

gracious. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

1:04:00

Goodness gracious. Right. So I'd say, okay. My rule

1:04:02

is I'm only gonna do it to boyfriend.

1:04:06

That way, I'll cut it down. I got so good at

1:04:08

this girl's when I get to be in my

1:04:10

twenties, you know, and I found out about my I mean, I just

1:04:12

get flued out and go out there, you know, with

1:04:14

the little back when I was age appropriate for NFL

1:04:16

players. Yeah.

1:04:18

Would they would

1:04:20

be, like, really, like, wow. And

1:04:23

I'd be like, uh-uh, I wanna deal with them. What I would do if I wanted to make them

1:04:25

go away is I would say, oh, I really think I'm ready for a relationship. And they'd

1:04:27

be like, oh, I can't remember. Yeah. I

1:04:29

get to go away. After

1:04:32

you've taken the benefits of being serious, you know,

1:04:34

you're very good. That's Nice little trip. Yeah.

1:04:36

Or what I was doing, I was very

1:04:39

kind. We'd go to, like, live in the different night clubs, and then

1:04:41

I let the closers

1:04:42

close. I'll leave around about one thirty or two.

1:04:44

The closers close. Yeah. And I'll let the closers come in

1:04:46

who are gonna do it to you. That

1:04:49

way, you can get of your bottles worth. Y'all paid a lot

1:04:51

of good money for this. Somebody needs to

1:04:53

do it to these boys. To

1:04:58

the state, no longer I said Well, no. You're so thoughtful. You

1:05:00

know, no. You're so thoughtful. You

1:05:03

made sure everybody wins. No. It's

1:05:05

good. That's my goal. I went

1:05:07

everybody's like to be better after having been my

1:05:09

friend. I do want that.

1:05:12

I do. Let

1:05:12

me tell you what's different. I see that the

1:05:14

closers. They come in. You know, why don't you call them the closers? Yeah. So

1:05:16

I ended up seeing, like, a month in Dubai

1:05:18

because I had a rule. We were going

1:05:21

up with these and some of them were

1:05:23

very handsome and some of them maybe not so much. And I had a rule. I said,

1:05:25

I'm a tell you something, girls. Y'all run

1:05:28

this bill

1:05:30

up passed a thousand dollars, somebody's got to do it to him, and it's

1:05:32

not gonna be me. So y'all talk

1:05:36

amongst yourself.

1:05:39

In fact, she told me this story,

1:05:41

bro. Oh. The boys were sitting right there.

1:05:43

They looked at each other, and they said, oh,

1:05:45

we lost him on. lost him

1:05:48

on. How so

1:05:51

much? Yourself? You say it

1:05:53

right for the guys? Yeah. And I

1:05:55

put it to my if somebody's got

1:05:57

to do it too. And it's not

1:05:59

gonna be me. So y'all talk amongst yourselves. I'll be

1:06:02

your order and lobster on somebody else's

1:06:04

dime. You know, good way. You don't want

1:06:06

them to

1:06:08

You. I'm not writing Christian.

1:06:12

It is.

1:06:13

Row, tell You

1:06:15

don't So, Rowan, you. Slice and her storytelling, bro.

1:06:17

It's like The boy is not Christian. It's

1:06:19

not Christian. We'll have to

1:06:21

report on that. You had to tell,

1:06:23

say, Peter, which had died for us.

1:06:25

That's well.

1:06:27

Dude, a man

1:06:30

like that. So so how did you transition? At what

1:06:32

point? I wanna timeline.

1:06:34

So she comes back from

1:06:36

-- Yeah. The around.

1:06:38

What month was that in twenty twenty

1:06:40

In March? Of twenty twenty -- Of

1:06:42

twenty one. -- twenty twenty one.

1:06:44

Mhmm. The

1:06:45

end of March. Okay.

1:06:47

Yeah. Yeah. And then y'all

1:06:50

date exclusively from what

1:06:52

time

1:06:52

period. You know, God on there. Remember the time,

1:06:54

man? You know, she tells me, but, yeah,

1:06:56

that's will tell you. Yes. Yeah. So he didn't we didn't have the conversation.

1:06:58

Conversation. Oh, yes. But we were doing

1:07:00

all of yeah. We were doing all the things but

1:07:02

a week before his failure to union.

1:07:06

He had the conversation. Oh, yeah. That's what y'all told me. Tell a story

1:07:08

about somebody bringing me to a family reunion

1:07:10

and and introducing me as a

1:07:12

girlfriend. And I was like, oh,

1:07:15

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm at. Probably up

1:07:17

in a

1:07:17

barbecue. It's

1:07:20

a

1:07:20

Yeah. When I was just going to the house. Right? I was

1:07:22

just going to the house just leaves the thing out you

1:07:25

know, it's one of those deals where we both have my own places

1:07:26

and, you know, see the Houston's huge. Yeah. So she's on the other side of

1:07:29

town. She would always

1:07:29

build on my place -- Yeah. -- thirty, thirty five

1:07:31

minutes. I just got a

1:07:34

new house. And I was

1:07:35

like, you know, hey, you want me

1:07:36

my girlfriend? She's like awesome. She's like, what?

1:07:40

You want my girlfriend?

1:07:42

She's like, I

1:07:44

guess so. I'll

1:07:48

stay away with me. Is

1:07:50

that what I talking. And so we

1:07:52

started she got back in March. It didn't

1:07:54

take long. What do you think? March?

1:07:56

No. What happened was yeah. It was March. I

1:07:58

went on a date with one in person.

1:08:00

He he literally went to the bathroom and

1:08:02

came back. He said, I'm having so much on this I

1:08:04

said he said, I I'm having so much fun I wanna take

1:08:06

you somewhere. I said, well, you know if we go somewhere?

1:08:09

You're gonna have to take your medication every day. I didn't

1:08:11

know what he was on, but it had to be

1:08:13

something prescribed. And he revealed himself, he said, I just

1:08:16

told myself

1:08:18

that in the bathroom. I said, you know what I'm talking about?

1:08:20

I said, that's enough. I got the Uber, and I

1:08:22

went straight to his house. I went straight to

1:08:25

your house. And after that, I didn't I didn't go to bed

1:08:28

with somebody else. That's what I told myself. Hey,

1:08:30

that's what I told myself just now in the bathroom.

1:08:32

I said, we got a medication. I

1:08:34

didn't even list some out some some

1:08:36

bipolar at this time in the third, and he said

1:08:38

that's why I wasn't drinking because it doesn't go well with this medication. And

1:08:43

I said, okay. This angle. I'm so

1:08:45

sorry for what you had to deal with that man. I took a Uber Spectris. That guy, the man was mad because

1:08:47

he was trying to take me, like --

1:08:50

Yeah. -- another place

1:08:52

at I

1:08:52

said, oh, no. I'll get a Uber. Thank

1:08:54

you. He said, you go into that you go into that yellow man. I

1:08:59

said, y'all get off my Instagram. Right. So I

1:09:02

have one

1:09:02

thing to tell

1:09:04

her when she tells stuff

1:09:06

like that and I said, You're welcome.

1:09:09

You're

1:09:09

welcome. I saved you. Thank me. You're gonna thank you for a long

1:09:11

time. You know, miss Dinty Commercial in

1:09:13

a little in

1:09:15

a little spot. Yes.

1:09:17

So at what point then?

1:09:18

So

1:09:18

y'all y'all dating exclusively at this point. Yeah. You said, will you

1:09:21

be my girlfriend circle?

1:09:22

Yes or no?

1:09:23

And she's circle. Yes? She

1:09:26

circle no. She circle, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So

1:09:28

she circle, I guess, and

1:09:30

now y'all on this courtship.

1:09:33

Yeah. Simone in your

1:09:35

mind that you say, infinitely no girlfriend for no

1:09:37

two years. Absolutely. Yeah. What did you say? What was it? What was the shot clock? My

1:09:39

mind was you. He has one I

1:09:43

was gonna give him one full year to start

1:09:45

talking about actual

1:09:46

steps, like, like, ring shopping,

1:09:49

this that in a third. One full year, do that And

1:09:52

where

1:09:52

did you get that philosophy

1:09:54

from? I don't know.

1:09:56

My my calculation. Mom Why don't you

1:09:59

always bring that up to me? Who

1:10:00

you heard that from? Oh, I think Kevin Sanders. That's the only thing

1:10:02

I agree with that man on. Yeah. That's it.

1:10:06

You recorded. And

1:10:08

then once I come home, she's getting ready with

1:10:10

I'm about to take her out somewhere. She's

1:10:13

getting ready. Listening to Kim and

1:10:14

say, I'm right there on it. I'm like, got them coach. No. Now can I walk them back downstairs? I'll let finish.

1:10:16

Go ahead and take a

1:10:18

look. Reason people watch strain

1:10:21

regs. You're gonna send away. That's funny. Well, how bad is it gonna get?

1:10:23

It's gonna it was r, palem,

1:10:26

1IR0.

1:10:29

But at the same time, you watch

1:10:31

that train wreck, you don't calculate if you can beat that train or not. You learn from that rep. Carry

1:10:37

on. And so you spent a year. So yeah. A year. Oh,

1:10:39

god. So you said a year. And then what? And so A

1:10:44

year. Concrete, ring on my finger

1:10:46

within sixteen months. Please, and thank you. Yes. And I had an I had an

1:10:52

augmentation like, you know, kind of speeded out if I

1:10:54

felt like he was dragging a little bit, which was because I'm older. I'm like, well, I need to put

1:10:56

these eggs in the freezer item --

1:10:58

Yeah. -- when it gets pulled. Yes.

1:11:01

And so I would just reiterate that that's gonna be twenty

1:11:03

thousand dollars. And so I would talk about, well, how would you like to plan for this

1:11:05

twenty thousand dollars? That's

1:11:08

a good

1:11:11

because I've got Russian, you know, babe? Hey, Roch, but we don't see y'all. We don't see y'all. We

1:11:13

don't see y'all. We don't watch a y'all. We don't watch a y'all. We don't watch a y'all. We don't watch a y'all. We

1:11:15

don't watch a y'all watch a y'all.

1:11:20

Check-in charge. So when she was saying that when

1:11:22

did you think, Rosie? She's crazy. Symone.

1:11:28

And then two He

1:11:29

said, that's your personal

1:11:30

maintenance. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Sound like personal problem. And she always says that, and

1:11:33

I would like to I like to sometimes

1:11:35

give it back to her. But

1:11:38

my time line was similar, but

1:11:40

I wasn't going around expressing,

1:11:43

you know, because I wanted things

1:11:45

to happen organically. And she for the

1:11:47

most part, she did that, but I understand women who's

1:11:49

Symone

1:11:49

know, because they they you're getting baby for a

1:11:51

long time. It's a newbie sitting there for five years.

1:11:53

I'm a little older than that. And I face. And I and I And then

1:11:55

and they break up with you at Marisol Biosa six

1:11:58

months. Well, actually, I

1:11:58

didn't even want to be a

1:12:02

girlfriend for that reason. Yeah. There was the article I

1:12:04

read in Redwine was it was by

1:12:06

a white woman, of course. Is it? I

1:12:09

don't wanna I refused to be anyone's

1:12:11

girlfriend. I would only be a fiance. And basically, what she did was she dated a

1:12:13

guy she dated guys

1:12:15

and basically said, until

1:12:18

you're ready to propose, I'm gonna keep seeing other

1:12:21

people. I did try that on him, and

1:12:23

he was very diplomatic. I said, well, we don't

1:12:25

have to be boyfriend and girlfriend. We can just

1:12:27

you

1:12:27

know, date each other until, you know, you feel ready to propose. And we're

1:12:29

driving and I really thought it

1:12:31

was be like,

1:12:34

girl, you sound crazy. And it was like, we can talk

1:12:36

about what that would look like in

1:12:38

context at another

1:12:39

time. They just never bitched

1:12:41

it against that's

1:12:42

how I learned from

1:12:43

her

1:12:43

mother how to speak to her.

1:12:45

Boom. Let's bring

1:12:46

her. Yeah. Never mind. Never mind.

1:12:48

I wish you can brought up again.

1:12:50

Come in and see her, tell her, give her that response. Nobody.

1:12:52

No. Everybody will be like, this is stupid, and

1:12:55

then I go to explain why

1:12:57

it's not stupid. Why I think he was stupid

1:12:59

or

1:12:59

yeah. Something like that. And I said, well,

1:13:02

gosh, darn it. What do I got

1:13:04

now? What levers do I have to

1:13:06

do that? Because I'm here, be insane. Yes.

1:13:08

I hate it when he does that. Last

1:13:10

night, I left the window down on this

1:13:12

porch while this water got in the car.

1:13:14

And I was so aggravated by the fact

1:13:16

that I had no possible way to blame

1:13:18

it on

1:13:19

him. Say, cat dog it.

1:13:22

I

1:13:23

gotta take responsibility. Yes. I had no possible. I didn't

1:13:25

blame it on you. I tried everything. I was like, you

1:13:28

shouldn't practice it.

1:13:29

All the time. You know,

1:13:32

always, like, me, like,

1:13:34

we always get by for everything. When did when did it show the ball, buddy? Come on, man. Take that. And then what

1:13:37

I I

1:13:40

surprised her,

1:13:41

too. I was, like, I was very calm. Dude, where her's, like, what? It's like, it

1:13:43

was a dance practice time. A woman was about to come here. I

1:13:45

mean, no, no, no,

1:13:47

no say that.

1:13:49

You got to get contacted by one of your kids. What you're a

1:13:51

child? Yeah. How do you talk about? Get home. You get chastised. You get a

1:13:51

bed. I thought

1:13:54

maybe that. But you

1:13:56

are Please provide contacts on that.

1:13:58

Yeah. No. No. There's no episodes from this. Yeah. So y'all look at this.

1:14:00

Y'all were ready to love.

1:14:02

Now y'all

1:14:03

ready to bear how

1:14:06

do y'all know that y'all are ready

1:14:08

to marry? Great

1:14:08

question. Man, we've done the work. Like, real talk. Like

1:14:10

I said, those tough conversations, bro, of Symone.

1:14:14

And we like, she would say one time, I'd say this all time. She's

1:14:17

like, man, you acting like, you want me to not

1:14:19

like you. I'm like, basically, I

1:14:21

am. The most part. I'm trying to I'm trying to give

1:14:24

you everything. Everything. If it's gonna fall apart

1:14:26

now, then let it fall

1:14:27

apart. If you still here, Boom.

1:14:29

So that's basically what it was. There's a nutshell. We talked about life experience. We again,

1:14:31

we want to make sure we're pulling in the same

1:14:33

directions where we wanna

1:14:36

be financially. With my career

1:14:38

goals, what I want. Because I'm a I'm a I'm an entrepreneur. I'm a hustler. I'm a salesper I'm a Symone

1:14:41

heart. Yeah. And she

1:14:43

is an entrepreneur to

1:14:46

a certain degree. She's an attorney. She has her own law firm, which which is crazy. I've helped step in. We're I'm

1:14:48

working on her law firm

1:14:50

for her to help grow

1:14:52

it. To my left,

1:14:54

like, the Yeah. You you you come in on your street? Yeah. She comes in on her street. She's helping with me. From

1:14:56

where

1:14:56

the Symone our game and my

1:14:58

dealerships

1:14:59

and everything that's to come.

1:15:03

But we worked on that. We talked about children. I want more kids. I don't want to

1:15:05

one son. You know what I mean? So that was

1:15:07

all in alignment, and she was still

1:15:09

standing there when I gave her

1:15:11

all my awards. So boom, let's

1:15:13

do it. Mhmm. And I feel for me, it was it was the way he takes care of

1:15:16

me, like, he as he

1:15:18

explained. And now I've realized it's

1:15:20

because he

1:15:23

literally researched and learned how to do

1:15:25

it. In the way he leads me,

1:15:27

he leads me the way

1:15:29

I'm able to follow. That's critical.

1:15:32

And he's always adapting. Because one

1:15:34

of my fears is growing

1:15:36

apart. I don't worry

1:15:39

about that with Because he's so

1:15:41

willing to to grow and change and do something

1:15:43

better or try something in a

1:15:45

different way. And that's

1:15:47

so important. And particularly,

1:15:50

I knew I was ready to marry him when

1:15:52

I made, like, a little

1:15:54

list of, like, you know, the

1:15:59

things about him that irked me. I didn't even write it down, but I've

1:16:01

listed the things that irked me, and I

1:16:03

thought, okay. Or

1:16:07

the things are these things you want to change about him. Right? Yeah. Because

1:16:09

I feel like you can't go in

1:16:11

expecting someone to change who

1:16:14

they are. Yeah. And I realized the things that I wanna

1:16:16

tweak or change, they weren't things that I

1:16:18

wanna change. They were actually things he

1:16:21

wanted to adjust about him he was

1:16:23

already working on. So I said, wait

1:16:25

a minute. Wait a minute. The only things that

1:16:27

I have issues with are things that keep

1:16:29

him up at night about him self.

1:16:31

Yeah. That I know about driving and pushing and driving

1:16:33

to do. Let's do this

1:16:35

together. Yeah. I'm big on

1:16:37

that because I I played college basketball. I

1:16:39

used to coach college and high school basketball before

1:16:41

I got into the car business. And one thing

1:16:43

I always learn is know your personnel.

1:16:45

Know your own personnel. Know your

1:16:47

strengths and weaknesses. Because you're never

1:16:49

gonna get it all. So I've always been kinda cognizant to have some self

1:16:52

awareness. Of

1:16:56

I awesome. We all Symone. course. But but just being aware of

1:16:58

it, you have to but Sometimes I gotta man, remember this ain't a strong

1:17:00

suit. So lino, money for that.

1:17:02

Or sell that to you.

1:17:05

Because you disguise it, then you're gonna be upset in the other person. I'm like, you know, I thought I

1:17:07

can help you here. I should have known

1:17:10

these type of things. And

1:17:13

and oh, and most importantly, I wanna say he's

1:17:15

one of the few men in my life that doesn't fear me. Men

1:17:17

fear me. And

1:17:20

I have to say, I must have been doing

1:17:22

something to make them feel that way. But that has not been a re a issue in our

1:17:25

relationship. In in

1:17:28

my situation, the fear would show

1:17:30

up as men feeling that they couldn't make me

1:17:31

happy. Mhmm. And that I would only

1:17:33

temporarily be happy and that one day

1:17:35

they wake up in I

1:17:38

would be gone.

1:17:39

Yeah. When she did? When

1:17:40

we first met, she did tell me she was

1:17:42

a runner.

1:17:43

Mhmm. But you remember

1:17:44

what I tell you? Which part? When you

1:17:46

told me, I'm a I'm a runner. Typically, one stuff, like What did

1:17:47

you say? Who say where have you run? I'm

1:17:49

a end up there.

1:17:52

Which one? As

1:17:54

I told the girl I was dating, I said, you don't run

1:17:56

wherever you run to. I'm a be right there

1:17:58

with you

1:17:59

when you get there. Yeah.

1:18:01

I actually did

1:18:02

the opposite.

1:18:02

Because in in sales, we have

1:18:04

a what we call a takeaway

1:18:07

close. Mhmm. Right? You take it away.

1:18:09

You take something away from the from

1:18:11

the deal.

1:18:11

Yeah. Okay. This isn't

1:18:13

the car for you. Yeah. Let me find one without a sunroof. Yeah.

1:18:15

No. No. I want the sunroof. I just want the

1:18:17

price. Right. Well, there's

1:18:18

cost involved with that sunroof,

1:18:19

sir, ma'am. Symone,

1:18:22

you're a runner. That's fine. I understand

1:18:24

those things. And as long as you tell me

1:18:27

that, I'll be okay with whatever destination

1:18:29

you're trying to

1:18:29

find. Because I'm good over here. Well,

1:18:32

ladies and gentlemen, I

1:18:34

guess I'm gonna

1:18:37

act my

1:18:40

behind. Right? So y'all both

1:18:42

happen. Y'all I

1:18:45

I

1:18:47

don't know Yep. Both them. Y'all got some games. Y'all both got some games. You're

1:18:49

like, look, I'm a handle you're like, there's some handy

1:18:51

like that. She's like, you go out

1:18:53

there and go. Yeah. Fuck.

1:18:55

Go grab those. Don't care. It goes mask these

1:18:57

women. I don't care. You ain't getting it from me. Enjoy yourself. I'm not mad at

1:18:59

all. You're like, why don't you mad? You're

1:19:03

not really like me. And sometimes, we'll recognize it from we'll

1:19:06

call it man. You gaming me right now. Why are you doing that?

1:19:08

Why are you doing that? Why are you doing that?

1:19:10

I wanna cover off all that. I do that.

1:19:13

Too. We do that to each Rashid,

1:19:15

you not of I'm a yes.

1:19:20

You guys selling this to me.

1:19:22

I love the way y'all operate with each other. What's the thing in

1:19:24

closing? What do y'all

1:19:27

look for to

1:19:28

gain? In

1:19:31

marriage. You gotta think about it. Y'all have a beautiful relationship.

1:19:34

Y'all clicking very well. Most people say when you

1:19:36

get married, that's where all the issues

1:19:38

come

1:19:38

about. Yeah. Yeah. Because and the reason

1:19:40

why that is because

1:19:42

now you become

1:19:43

a threat to the

1:19:46

devil. That's why that's why the scripture says

1:19:48

that when God has joined together, let no man

1:19:50

put a sun do this because once you

1:19:53

actually come together, under covenant, now you are

1:19:55

a threat. And so my question to you is, y'all have this great

1:19:57

relationship, y'all live together. So what is

1:19:59

it that you believe marriage is

1:20:02

gonna afford that y'all don't already

1:20:04

have? Marriage

1:20:05

that I've learned is is a partnership at the end of the

1:20:08

day because love is

1:20:10

there, but relationship stuff is

1:20:12

gonna up

1:20:14

and down. And that's one of the things we talked about. She hadn't been

1:20:17

married. And, like, y'all hear all this stuff

1:20:19

and it sounds cute and blah blah blah blah.

1:20:21

We've answered back and forth, but there's gonna be

1:20:23

days where you hate me. I hate

1:20:25

you. This stuff is not gonna be lollipops

1:20:27

and rainbows all the time.

1:20:30

No. We're not gonna get

1:20:32

this whatever square foot home, two point

1:20:34

five kids, a dog, a station wagon and a picket fence. Yeah. That's not that's that's

1:20:37

for storybook stuff.

1:20:40

Yeah. Right? But the love is gonna

1:20:42

look different sometimes. So to me and her, we've come she's well established. I've well established.

1:20:44

It's a merger of two

1:20:46

companies and corporations coming together. Right?

1:20:50

And then we have those tough conversations upfront. We

1:20:52

know where each other's stand. And the

1:20:54

love will get us through all of

1:20:56

the tough stuff, but the idea that it's

1:20:59

not gonna be perfect, and we gotta have our little battles because I was immature my first marriage thinking that

1:21:01

it wasn't gonna be

1:21:03

lollipops and rainbows. Right?

1:21:06

And we try to avoid conflict. Try to

1:21:08

avoid not having discussions. What we do now,

1:21:10

we have it out. Yes. We might it

1:21:13

might we have it out. We're gonna say

1:21:15

some things to each other, but boom, we move on

1:21:17

our line. Let's go get some eating -- Right.

1:21:19

-- every next day versus let it in

1:21:21

the past. I've let it faster. Yeah.

1:21:23

And we used to can't be in the

1:21:25

fact that we don't argue. I think that was the wrong way to do things because when when

1:21:27

it does come out, it's a

1:21:31

snowball. And all about the

1:21:31

last six

1:21:32

months. Yeah. All coming out some stuff coming out of

1:21:34

this one thing. This is because she didn't offer

1:21:37

you a slice

1:21:39

of a pieces. Programming. Like, everything come back.

1:21:41

And, actually, the five months ago, I I remember when you

1:21:44

didn't you picked me Symone work late. You're

1:21:46

like, what are you talking about yourself? You're like, what

1:21:48

did

1:21:50

We got into it on the car right here.

1:21:52

Oh, we did. Five

1:21:54

minutes. I'm sorry, man. You know? Yeah.

1:21:56

I was like, oh, yeah. And I

1:21:58

was like, okay. Good. Right. Let's eat a cookie. You

1:22:01

don't like me having

1:22:03

too many sweets.

1:22:07

So the end of the day, man, as long as we

1:22:09

have AAA cornerstone value of

1:22:12

where we want to

1:22:14

go, we're doing a a family vision board. We're gonna include my

1:22:16

son in that vision board. Yes. And Symone as

1:22:18

we're pulling in the same direction, and I understand

1:22:20

that it's not

1:22:23

always gonna be sunshine. You know

1:22:25

what I'm saying? And that's the the overall arc that I want us

1:22:27

to have, pull in the same direction, understand that we're

1:22:30

better

1:22:31

and stronger together. And we can

1:22:33

defeat anything. And, you know, once we rock together, we rock and stuff like that. Tomorrow.

1:22:36

You never been

1:22:38

married before. You wash mom

1:22:41

and dad's been. How many years ago? They've been

1:22:43

together, like, forty three. Forty three years of example of

1:22:46

what marriage looks like.

1:22:49

Why do you wanna get married and what you and what do you believe

1:22:51

is marriage is gonna afford you or bring it

1:22:53

to your life?

1:22:55

I think for I wanna get married

1:22:57

because I want to be with my best friend and live with my best friend and

1:23:00

build a a

1:23:03

world with him in a family with

1:23:05

him. I think life is going to be better together overall. Just like

1:23:07

how I

1:23:08

have, you know,

1:23:11

my best girlfriends. This is like my

1:23:13

best friend that I'll do it too. Right? I love I love

1:23:16

that. You

1:23:19

think that Yep. And I also I know that without

1:23:21

him, I will never be my best self.

1:23:23

Mhmm. I won't be I

1:23:25

will not reach all my

1:23:27

goals in business. I will not reach all my

1:23:29

goals and my personal life. He drives me to the club and picks me up with

1:23:31

my girlfriends because I got

1:23:34

real bad peripheral vision. Yeah.

1:23:36

You know, it's just like the

1:23:38

little support and things of health that I have in my life. I

1:23:43

just know professionally. From his ideas, from

1:23:45

this and that I am going to be my best self. And one of my

1:23:47

worst fears is to

1:23:50

never reach my full

1:23:52

potential. But I know with

1:23:54

this man, I will because there are other men out there that will prevent you from reaching your

1:24:00

potential. On that

1:24:02

note. Wow. On the terrace all wheelfield, and I say that y'all are ready to marry. That's

1:24:08

like

1:24:08

you. When

1:24:10

I tell you that right there is absolutely

1:24:12

amazing when I tell you. I I

1:24:14

like y'all a lie. You know what I'm

1:24:16

saying? I didn't know

1:24:18

much about y'all when I all y'all on the show. I see

1:24:19

you know, I take stuff with a grain of salt. Well, I watch TV.

1:24:21

I was like, you you're seeing a because I'm

1:24:23

a producer. I

1:24:26

produce national plays. So I always see that stuff has been produced at

1:24:28

the end of the day to

1:24:30

create storylines or whatnot. And what

1:24:33

I see, the storyline that's

1:24:35

been produced off camera far

1:24:37

exceeds the storyline that was on camera. Because even on camera,

1:24:39

the storyline came to an end.

1:24:41

Mhmm. And now this

1:24:43

is gonna last

1:24:45

till the wheels fall off until y'all old and gray and sitting

1:24:47

on the porch drinking cold glass of lemonade. Yes, sir. And that's what

1:24:49

I see for y'all y'all have

1:24:51

a beautiful dynamic

1:24:55

is so encouraging to see I speak blessings over y'all's

1:24:57

union. Have y'all picked the date? Have

1:24:59

y'all released the date when y'all

1:25:02

get

1:25:02

married? So we've got the Symone.

1:25:04

It's in April. We're gonna release the date on

1:25:07

our YouTube channel. Good. That's it. Y'all can see us there right now. And I'm a drop a link. I'm a drop

1:25:09

a link

1:25:09

for their channel and make sure y'all

1:25:11

go follow it.

1:25:14

Man, I just I was I've been very encouraged by y'all.

1:25:17

I like y'all y'all got a cool person

1:25:19

that I love the dynamic that

1:25:21

y'all got going on. And it's like y'all's each other's

1:25:23

yin'g and yang. It's like, someone is

1:25:25

crazy as I'll get out. Yes.

1:25:28

And and y'all y'all balance

1:25:30

each other out so well. And I and I see that y'all gonna have many years of laughter, years

1:25:33

of playing

1:25:36

around, and many years of amazing

1:25:38

sex and many years of creating legacy and

1:25:39

doing business and making money in just many years of

1:25:41

just doing purposeful work. So keep doing

1:25:43

what y'all doing. This

1:25:46

this season is called miracles and manifestations.

1:25:48

So one of my one of

1:25:50

the things that I've wanted, and this

1:25:53

is my low key little desire, is I

1:25:55

wanted to host a reunion show already to look. You know,

1:25:57

I'm always want to You have to. Yes, sir. You

1:25:59

have to. You have to. You have to

1:26:01

take time

1:26:01

to job to be honest.

1:26:02

Take time, man. Oh, really? I wanna take job. I just wanna take that moment. I just wanna I

1:26:05

wanna just sit in the reunion show and just talk

1:26:07

about let me let me talk.

1:26:10

Let me interview that. Or even better yet that one of the

1:26:12

things that they would do like in, you know, leading

1:26:14

up to the reunion is they would have to

1:26:17

come and do a mock interview after they

1:26:19

after they zeroed in -- Yeah. -- on the

1:26:21

couples come to a mock interview with me on Deerfield's Wipes,

1:26:23

so I can ask some real questions -- Right. --

1:26:25

stuff out in the atmosphere. Yeah. So that'd be dope.

1:26:27

So wheel packet, you know, been to your house before on your

1:26:29

birthday. Yeah. So hey. I'm putting that

1:26:31

out there. Yeah. So

1:26:34

the couple's very Yeah.

1:26:35

Yeah. I

1:26:35

mean yeah. Yeah. That'd be dope. And it's it's they're

1:26:37

cast here in Dallas. I know what that was saying.

1:26:39

Oh, yeah. I heard about all

1:26:42

that. If they

1:26:42

You guys come right here see Yeah. They come right around

1:26:45

here. They come right here down. Season pops

1:26:47

off in March. Okay. That'll be great.

1:26:49

Yeah. So they, you know, starts at March.

1:26:51

So it's gonna be great. Listen. Blessin' y'all blessin' y'all

1:26:53

once again. I'm dropping y'alls

1:26:55

handle YouTube channel

1:26:57

as well as y'all Instagram. Make

1:26:59

y'all look in the description on to connect with the amazing

1:27:01

dynamic couple, continue to watch their

1:27:04

journey. It's so inspiring. Hey, y'all give

1:27:06

it up for some long red wine and

1:27:08

my homeie who is.

1:27:10

Rashid Roxy, Floyd. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Lederian thrust

1:27:14

it suddenly into child

1:27:17

protective services in twenty

1:27:19

fifteen. My nephew, Black, a boy. likelihood

1:27:20

of being adopted

1:27:23

outside of kinship

1:27:26

slim to none. Our

1:27:28

mind, sixteen years old,

1:27:30

black, a boy with five

1:27:32

years in the file secure system before

1:27:35

I even knew

1:27:35

his name. The

1:27:36

likelihood of ever been adopted?

1:27:38

Yep. You guessed it. Slam to none.

1:27:43

While luderian and Armani were trying to survive

1:27:45

and barely thrive in an overpopulated

1:27:47

and underfunded false care system, I

1:27:49

was living my own life,

1:27:51

doing well professionally. Having been a single

1:27:54

father with a daughter who at that point was doing well in

1:27:55

college, it was my time to live my life. Right?

1:27:58

Wrong. I felt unsettled.

1:28:02

Tireless agitated. There

1:28:04

are just too many of

1:28:06

our black children stuck in

1:28:08

ambiguity and in the limbo

1:28:11

of the foster care

1:28:12

system.

1:28:12

In twenty seventeen,

1:28:13

I legally adopted my nephew, Ladarious. Fast forward to

1:28:15

twenty nineteen, I

1:28:16

had no ties to this other young

1:28:18

king, but I felt God in his

1:28:21

attracting me to adopt him also in

1:28:23

Alabama. Starting over with parenting should have been

1:28:23

working with

1:28:24

various foster care and adoption

1:28:26

agencies to help bring awareness to

1:28:31

the countless young black kings in the foster care

1:28:33

system should have decreased my

1:28:35

agitation. Right? Joining the

1:28:37

board of direct of advanced adoption,

1:28:39

an organization that helps find permanent, adoptive

1:28:42

homes for children in foster care

1:28:44

should have led to some type of

1:28:46

resolve. Right? No.

1:28:47

Not at all.

1:28:48

None of it felt like

1:28:50

I had done enough. I

1:28:53

now realized

1:28:54

that every