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0:15
Pushkin, previously
0:23
on deep cover. By
0:26
the late spring of nineteen eighty five, Ned
0:28
Timmins was deep into his investigation
0:30
of the drug smugglers. One
0:33
of the three major players, the Gentleman Smuggler,
0:35
was now behind bars, but Ned
0:38
was still on a mission to get Mike Vogel,
0:40
the grocery guy. I had
0:42
it in such a way, did I really control
0:44
the marijuana industry in Michigan. His
0:49
other target was Lee Rich mister
0:51
beach club. I'm the boss,
0:54
Okay. I called the shots. If
0:56
they wanted to load, or if I was going to load
0:59
something, I could secure the boat, playing whatever.
1:02
But for now Ned couldn't do much
1:04
about the case because in the fall of that
1:06
year, his cover was blown and
1:09
there'd been a threat on his life. So
1:11
the FBI sent Ned and his wife Kathy
1:14
off to northern Michigan to hide together.
1:17
They had to sit quietly and wait it
1:19
out. This is not
1:21
any kind of a life that I want
1:23
to lead. This
1:26
isn't what any
1:28
of us signed up for.
1:32
For Kathy Timmins, going into hiding
1:34
wasn't just scary. She had her
1:36
own work, her own career at the FBI
1:39
that she now had to put on hold. She
1:41
was tired of Ned's undercover persona
1:44
Ed Thomas, messing everything up.
1:46
Oh. I was very angry. I was very upset.
1:49
I was scared, you know. And then
1:51
I just had to let it be, let it go, just
1:55
be up there and sit and wait to
1:57
make matters worse. She didn't feel
2:00
well. I thought I was sick or something, or
2:02
maybe just really really tired, because I just kept
2:04
falling asleep. And then I started feeling the queasiness
2:06
and everything, and I thought, oh, maybe I got
2:08
pregnant. After being
2:10
in hiding for about three weeks, the
2:12
FBI calls and tells Nedd and Kathy
2:15
the coast is clear. They had caught
2:17
the bikers who had planned to kill Ned. So
2:20
Ned and Cathy come out of hiding. They go
2:22
home. Kathy, who's still not feeling
2:24
well, visits the doctor and learns
2:27
she is pregnant. In
2:29
a way, the timing wasn't ideal. Their
2:32
lives had just been turned upside down,
2:35
and yet Kathy took this as a sign
2:38
like God meant it to be, because we had been
2:40
married for how many years by then, and
2:43
I had never gotten pregnant, and
2:45
I never did anything not to get pregnant. So I
2:47
just thought, oh, okay. You know I'm Catholic.
2:50
You know, it's like, okay, this is
2:52
meant to be. Now.
2:54
All she had to do was tell Ned. I
2:57
thought that he would be thrilled
3:01
and that this would really
3:03
help to bring a closure to all
3:05
of this craziness with this undercover
3:08
work. I asked, Ned, what
3:10
were your thoughts about having kids? Given
3:12
the nature of your work, it
3:15
wasn't time. Did you
3:17
think you ever wanted to have kids? You
3:20
know, I really didn't give it much thought, you
3:22
know, I was just consumed by work
3:25
and what we were doing. So
3:27
when you get back from this trip to
3:30
northern Michigan and she's like, I'm
3:32
pregnant, what is
3:34
your reaction? Well,
3:37
yeah, it's just well, I guess we're
3:39
gonna roll with it. You know. I'm
3:48
Jake Halper and this is Deep
3:50
Cover Episode
3:53
seven. The honeymoon is
3:55
over. After
4:23
he comes out of hiding, Ned is
4:25
back working on his case against Lee rich
4:27
Mister Beach Club, but for the
4:29
time being, there was no easy way
4:32
for Ned or the FBI to apprehend
4:34
Lee. Extraditions from the Caymans
4:37
were rare, plus, Ned says down
4:39
on the Caymans. Lee was kind
4:42
of a robin Hood figure, a beloved
4:44
outlaw. Lee
4:46
was the robin Hood who had taken
4:48
care of all the bankers and all the people on the island
4:51
and buried friends
4:53
and relatives and paid
4:55
for everybody's expenses. He had
4:57
a big heart, and he took care of a lot
4:59
of people, and it
5:01
would have been probably impossible
5:03
to get him extradited out of there. So
5:06
on the one hand, Ned was frustrated
5:09
that he couldn't apprehend Lee, but he
5:11
also knew that Lee was kind
5:14
of trapped, and he knew this because
5:16
of a conversation that they'd had when they
5:18
were in the Caymans together. We
5:20
had always talked alone a lot, and
5:23
I just turned him one day. We're probably
5:25
having a drink or something. I said, Lee, why don't
5:27
you get the hell out of us? Just
5:30
quit And Lee said
5:33
I can't. They'll kill me. And
5:36
I believe he meant the Columbians would
5:39
kill him.
5:43
Lee was on the hook for a million pounds
5:45
of marijuana that he'd ordered from the Colombians.
5:48
And that, by the way, is he shitload
5:51
of marijuana. Look, this
5:53
isn't an exact science, but I
5:55
talked to was a smuggler who once saw this much
5:57
weed down in Colombia and he described
5:59
it as a quote fucking
6:02
mountain end quote. He
6:04
actually built a small fort up
6:06
on top of it and slept there. So
6:09
you get the idea. Lee
6:12
was under pressure to move that much marijuana.
6:15
And remember Lee's go to guy,
6:17
Stephen Kaylish, the Gentleman's
6:19
smuggler. He was in custody at
6:21
this point, so Lee pushed
6:23
ahead without his star smuggler,
6:26
tried to move at least some of it. He
6:28
arranged for a tug boat to to a barge
6:30
with one hundred and sixty five thousand pounds
6:32
of pot on it up to Virginia.
6:35
The boat was intercepted by the US
6:37
Coastguard and the cargo was confiscated.
6:40
It was a total disaster. It's
6:44
all scrapped. It was done. You
6:46
know, at this point, Lee
6:48
is finally feeling ready to just get
6:50
out of the business. You know, I
6:53
was just I was tired of it. I didn't need it,
6:56
And I blame a lot of that on myself for not
6:58
being strong enough to tell people I
7:00
don't want to do this, I'm done. It
7:03
was a moment of reckoning for Lee. Remember
7:05
from the very start. Lie says he'd gotten
7:08
into the marijuana business so he could chill
7:10
with his buddies, non
7:14
violent beach guys, you know, lived
7:17
on the beach to surf and fish and
7:20
never hurt anybody. Okay.
7:23
Even as his business grew and he became
7:25
really wealthy, this was still
7:27
his credo. He had the yacht
7:30
which the queen borrowed, and the beach
7:32
club, but the funny parrot and the cool
7:34
house that rock stars came to visit. It
7:38
had been fun for a long time until
7:40
suddenly, well it really wasn't
7:43
anymore. And
7:47
then, as if this weren't already perfectly
7:49
clear, Alvin Connor came
7:52
knocking. I know Lee rich.
7:54
For years Alvin was the
7:56
chief Inspector of narcotics for the
7:58
Cayman Island Police Force back in
8:00
the eighties. Were used to search
8:03
all his private plea and you come
8:05
in eer week two
8:07
three time were
8:09
all these girls? Pretty
8:11
girls used to bring. Alvin
8:14
says he had suspected for a while that
8:16
Lee might be involved in the drug trade.
8:19
Nothing solid, just chatter, which
8:21
isn't surprising this was a small
8:23
island. Inevitably people talked.
8:26
Alvin says, he searched Lee's private plane
8:28
and number of times, but never found
8:30
any drugs. But then
8:33
one day in January of nineteen eighty
8:35
six, about six months after Ned
8:37
had left the island, Alvin says he
8:39
got a tip which led him to believe that
8:41
Lee might have some drugs at his house.
8:46
This was all that Alvin needed, just
8:48
a lead, a whiff of something, because
8:51
on the island, Alvin had a reputation
8:54
for chasing assent. If
8:56
can't you see me come in to see the
8:59
dog is here? You called me the
9:01
dog? Wait? Why do they call you the dog?
9:04
Mar Juanna, I smell it. They
9:07
say that I smell it. If day I'm
9:09
gonna find it. They called
9:11
me the dog to see the dog? Come, no, and
9:16
the dog. He was coming for Lee.
9:18
He didn't know about Ned Timmins or the FBI
9:20
investigation. He just wanted to
9:23
bust Lee rich. So he heads over
9:25
to Lee's house. I
9:28
say, we're here to look for drogs. Alvin
9:31
says. He searches the room and finds about
9:34
an ounce of cocaine. He arrestedly
9:36
on the spot for drug possession. Lee
9:41
says the whole thing was a setup.
9:43
They planted a two or three grams
9:46
or coke in my house and
9:48
came in and raided the house. My
9:50
mother's in the house, and I think I had
9:53
about eight people staying in the house at that time.
9:56
So it was a big scene when they took Lee
9:58
away in handcuffs. The whole thing
10:00
was upsetting for Lee, in part because his
10:02
mom was there. She started making a fuss,
10:05
and Alvin confronted her. I
10:07
say, if I'll shut your mouth,
10:10
I rescue you and jadge rob
10:12
structing police officer saw.
10:14
I rescue you and charge you and
10:17
charge you for the school keen too. The
10:20
message to Lee seemed to be clear, I'm
10:22
not afraid of you. I'll mess with your mom
10:24
if need be. Alvin
10:31
took Lee down to the police station, booked
10:34
him, locked him up, but soon
10:36
Lee got out on bail around five thousand
10:38
dollars. That's the amount that Alvin
10:40
recalls anyway, which was nothing
10:43
to Lee. Yeah,
10:45
you were like a king, big
10:47
shot, like a big shot, and nobody
10:49
could touch him. He tells Lee,
10:52
if the judge you won't let you go down, he based
10:54
that boy, gonna do my job for
10:57
Lee. The biggest fallout from all of
10:59
this was that he had to give up his passport.
11:01
The police claimed that he was a flight risk, so
11:04
they insisted that he'd leave his passport with
11:06
them at the station, so he'd
11:08
have to go and ask for a back if you ever
11:10
wanted to leave the island. Lee
11:13
was beginning to feel trapped. Around
11:16
the same time, he was hanging out at
11:18
a local bar on Grand Cayman when
11:20
he bumps into a guy he knows who works
11:22
for Scotland Yard. Lee buys
11:25
him a drink and he goes rich. He
11:27
goes, I'm I'm gonna tell you something. Goes. Don't
11:30
take your boat out past
11:32
twelve miles, don't go out on the bank fish,
11:34
and don't leave the island. They're
11:37
trying to get you on a coastguard
11:39
cutter or something off a Cayman, he
11:42
said. And I'm just telling you that because you're a decent
11:44
guy. It seemed like the walls
11:46
were really closing in on Lee. Now his
11:49
business partner, the gentleman smuggler,
11:51
was in jail and quite possibly talking
11:54
to US authorities. The dog
11:56
was pursuing him on the island, and now
11:58
the Scotland Yard guy was telling him don't
12:01
take your boat too far off shore. So
12:03
I knew then from what he told me that night,
12:06
They're really onto my ass. Okay,
12:09
and I started making
12:11
arrangements. I was going to leave, and
12:14
I was going to Europe, to Portugal.
12:17
Actually, Lee's grandfather was
12:19
Portuguese, and he figured if he could
12:21
get there, he might use that familial
12:23
connection to get his status as a resident.
12:26
He thought he'd be safe there. So
12:29
in May of nineteen eighty six, a full year
12:31
after Ned first visited Lee in the Caymans,
12:33
Lee got ready to make his escape,
12:36
and then this chance would have it, Lee
12:38
got a visit from a friend which
12:41
derailed everything. And
12:46
that friend was Tommy Lee
12:48
Base, you know, from Motley
12:50
Crue. Lee
13:05
Rich was about to flee the Cayman Islands,
13:08
but he had a scheduling
13:10
conflict. A buddy was coming to town,
13:13
Tommy Lee Basse, founding
13:15
member of the band Motley Crue. In
13:18
the mid nineteen eighties, Tommy Lee
13:21
and his bandmate Nicki six were
13:23
the bad boys at the heavy metal world. I
13:25
remember you feel for the last time you motherfucker's
13:28
liked the party? Is that true?
13:33
Well, if you're a perverse fuck
13:36
yeah,
13:38
I fucking knew it. I just knew
13:40
it. Tommy Lee and his bandmates had come
13:42
to visit the Caymans a few times before. Turns
13:45
out the band's manager, Doc McGee,
13:47
was one of Lee's investors. They all
13:49
got along famously. Tommy
13:53
even wrote about the first time that he'd met Lee
13:56
in Motley Crue's memoir The Dirt.
13:58
Here's a clip from the audio book and just a heads
14:01
up. For some reason, the narrator calls
14:03
Lee Leigh. Anyway,
14:06
Lay walked into the doc's rental house with a
14:08
Natashak case. The first
14:10
words we spoke to him were gimme, gimme,
14:12
gimme, because we knew what
14:14
was in that fucking attache case. Mountains
14:17
of white powder to stuff up our noses.
14:20
Lay opened the case and gave us a little rock.
14:23
In the memoir, Lee then shuts his briefcase,
14:25
locks it, winks and tells them if
14:27
they can open the combination lock, Tommy
14:30
can have the rest of it. We were
14:32
so coked out that we actually thought
14:35
we were coming up with every single permutation
14:37
of three numbers. Finally,
14:40
I went into the kitchen, grabbed a butcher knife
14:42
and cut the top of lace thousand dollars leather
14:44
briefcase, glittering inside
14:46
like white gold were fucking dozens of
14:48
huge plastic bags filled with coke.
14:52
So there you have it. An epic drug dealer,
14:54
an epic rock star who loved drugs.
14:57
It was a friendship made in heaven. Tommy
15:05
wasn't traveling to the Caymans alone. He
15:07
was coming with the latest love of his life life,
15:09
the actress Heather Locklear. She'd
15:12
started in a few hit TV shows like Dynasty
15:15
and t J. Hooker, where she played a rookie
15:17
cop who once even goes under
15:19
cover herself as a call girl. Yeah,
15:22
hook where are she supposed to wear? Her water and my
15:24
trick bag? An alcol girl never parts
15:26
with her trick bag. Don't get any ideas
15:29
about helping me on with it. It's fine, just where
15:31
it is. Heather and Tommy.
15:33
They'd met backstage in an Ario Speedwagon
15:36
concert. Their relationship would become
15:38
fodder for e Hollywood. The
15:40
bad boy of rock had found his princess.
15:43
Tommy was now living the life he had famed,
15:45
fortune and love. The happy couple left
15:47
for a three week honeymoon in the Cayman Islands.
15:50
Tommy was coming to visit to spend his honeymoon
15:53
on the Cayman Islands, seeing his good
15:55
buddy, Lee, the guy with the
15:57
magic suitcase. Listall
16:00
remembers just how excited Tommy
16:03
was heaves head over heels
16:05
on this girl. He said, I really
16:07
want to come back here and spend my honey, and
16:09
I said, don't worry, I'll take care of you.
16:11
You know, Lee could have told him,
16:13
no, the timing's bad, man, My
16:15
drug empire is falling apart. I may
16:17
soon be imprisoned. But
16:20
that was just not mister Beach Club's
16:22
style. His buddy was coming to
16:24
town, so his escape plan to Portugal
16:27
would just have to wait. Lee arrange
16:29
for a nice condo on the beach for Tommy
16:31
and Heather, and I
16:33
got a call the next day after leaving
16:35
him there that night from the manager
16:38
of the condo asked me to remove
16:40
them from the property, both of
16:42
them, because they were up all night running up
16:44
and down in the parking out high on whatever.
16:47
Not a huge surprise. From the Motley
16:50
Crewe memoir, you get a sense for how Tommy
16:52
partied. Gimme, gimme, gimme, so
16:55
Lee, he moves the couple to another condo,
17:00
but the situation doesn't get
17:02
any better. It was one big headache
17:04
for Lee. So they decide,
17:07
let's go to Jamaica. It'll be better over there.
17:09
Lee books them some villas, makes all the
17:12
arrangements, and he decides
17:14
that this trip to Jamaica will be the
17:16
perfect excuse to run for it.
17:19
So he goes to the Cayman Police and somehow
17:21
or another manages to get his passport
17:23
back. Lee says he's just flying
17:25
with some friends to Jamaica for a mini vacation,
17:28
but his real plan is to keep going
17:31
to London and then onto Portugal. So
17:34
he packs a briefcase with some pocket money
17:36
thirty thousand in cash, and boards
17:38
a plane with Tommy and Heather from
17:40
Montego Bay, Jamaica. That
17:45
night, when we flew to Mobay. When
17:47
I come off the airplane, one
17:50
of the girls from the counter, does
17:52
she call me by my name? She goes Lee.
17:55
I looked at her two
17:57
agents waiting on you inside
17:59
the customs area. There two
18:02
agents and like that, Lee
18:04
understood had to be the FEDS.
18:07
Somehow they'd been tipped off. What
18:09
Lee didn't know at the time was that the FBI
18:11
had a source who knew about his trip and
18:14
ratted him out, and
18:16
now here he was on the ground
18:18
at the Montego Bay Airport, walking
18:21
right into a trap. Here's
18:24
Tommy's got up one of these boomboxes.
18:27
Okay, up on his shoulder,
18:30
and he's jagging at around holler and
18:32
he's dragging this Heather with him. Okay,
18:34
going ahead of me, and
18:36
so I went
18:39
behind him, went into customs,
18:41
and sure enough those agents came up to
18:43
me. Tommy made us started
18:46
confronting him too. You know, hey, what he
18:48
hadn't done anything, you know, and so
18:50
they've threatened to arrest him,
18:53
and that was the end of that. Tommy
18:56
and Heather went one way, and the two
18:58
FBI agents escorted Lee out
19:00
of the airport and into a car where
19:02
a Jamaican police officer was waiting for them.
19:09
They then all head to the hotel where the FBI
19:11
agents were staying so they could grab their
19:14
stuff. We go to the
19:16
hotel and
19:19
the two agents get out of the car and
19:21
we're sitting in the parking lot. I'm in there with this cop
19:24
and the cop that was in the
19:26
front seat driving us. He was one
19:28
of the cops I used to pay off. And
19:31
I said, listen, you don't you remember who I am?
19:33
You know who I am? So he goes I can't help
19:35
you, Rich, I said, I'll
19:37
never forget it. So you know, I was
19:39
kind of threatening him, and I said, all
19:41
I gotta do is let me run. He goes, I can't
19:43
do it, so he wouldn't let
19:45
me out, and that was it.
19:48
The two FBI agents got back in the car.
19:50
They drove to Kingston and caught the next
19:52
flight back to the US with Lee
19:55
in custody. In
19:57
Motley Crue's memoir, Tommy Lee Base
20:00
takes full responsibility for all of this, saying
20:02
that he and Heather caused the downfall of one
20:04
of the country's biggest drug smugglers,
20:07
all because they didn't want to go to Maka
20:09
alone. Tommy writes, Heather
20:12
and I felt terrible. We had no one to
20:14
show us around Jamaica. Now
20:20
that he was in federal custody, Lee Rich
20:22
began to mull over where exactly
20:24
he'd gone wrong, and he recalled
20:27
something that his business partner, Mike Vogel,
20:29
the grocery guy, had told him.
20:32
Mike was the distributor who ran the enormous
20:34
drug warehouse back in Detroit, and
20:37
Lie says Mike he had never really
20:39
liked Tommy and Heather thought they were trouble.
20:42
Lee remembers him saying repeatedly, stay
20:44
away from those people. They're going to be your
20:46
downfall. Mike
20:50
Vogel was right, in fact, more
20:52
right than he knew. In a way, Tommy
20:55
and Heather would also be his downfall,
20:58
because at the very moment that Lee was
21:00
being apprehended in Jamaica, there
21:03
was another operation targeting Mike
21:05
Vogel back in Detroit. When
21:08
we come back after the break, Ned
21:10
Timmins and the FBI make their
21:12
move on the grocery guy.
21:29
Back in Michigan, Ned was itching
21:31
to arrest Mike Vogel. The idea
21:33
was to get both of these guys, Lee and
21:35
then Mike, almost at the exact
21:38
same time, so neither one of them
21:40
would tip off the other. Everything
21:42
had to be perfectly synchronized this
21:46
moment, it was the culmination of almost
21:49
three years of work on Ned's part.
21:52
It had been an epic journey, taking
21:54
him from a roadside biker bar in Detroit
21:57
all the way to the glitzie beaches of the Caymans.
21:59
And during this time Ned's case had
22:02
steadily grown, merging with other investigations
22:04
in North Carolina, Louisiana,
22:07
and Florida. Other agencies had
22:09
gotten involved too, like the d EA,
22:11
the IRS, the Coastguard, US
22:14
Customs, and a slew of state
22:16
and county investigators. Together,
22:19
the authorities had built a strong case against
22:21
the smugglers, and
22:24
throughout this time Ned had kept pretty
22:27
close tabs on Mike Vogel, and
22:29
apparently Mike had picked up on this.
22:31
That's what he told me. Anyway, Mike
22:34
boasted to me that he had sources within
22:36
the FBI. He added rather
22:38
cryptically that he knew all about
22:40
Ned. Did I sit down have lunch
22:43
or dinner with him? Now? Okay, I
22:45
just I was aware of them.
22:47
I was very aware of them. I remembin
22:50
the day that Ned
22:52
Timmins he ever got
22:54
involved with me, I
22:57
wish I had never heard my name. So
23:01
on May twenty third, nineteen eighty six, the
23:04
same day League gets arrested, Ned
23:06
Timmins is staked out at Mike Vogel's
23:08
house in Milford. We
23:11
had the whole swat team out there laying in Vogle's place
23:14
all night long waiting for word
23:16
that they had Lee and custody. And once
23:18
we got word that they had Lee in custody, then
23:20
we had Vogle's house, his
23:23
Ned and his FBI team are getting ready,
23:26
something really weird happens.
23:28
According to NED, a black
23:31
panther starts stalking the woods.
23:34
A black panther in Michigan. Okay, so
23:37
there was some sightings of it, and
23:39
we're in the swat team moonlightning. We've been laying
23:42
out there all night, night vision everything, and
23:46
this panther had been released. People
23:49
had seen it and reported it. You know, that there's a black panther
23:51
run around out here and there some cattle had been killed.
23:53
And so we're all laying
23:55
out there talking on our radios and you
23:57
know, waiting for word to hit the house. And
24:00
this panther was screaming
24:02
like this in
24:06
the night, in the moonlight, and
24:09
you know, you know what's out there someplace, and
24:12
you're laying in the grass and
24:14
it was a bit nerve wracking. Okay,
24:19
So I was skeptical about this story. Seemed
24:22
like another NED tail that would be well
24:24
impossible to fact jack and then
24:27
I found an article from the Time dispatched
24:30
from the town where Mike Vogel lived,
24:32
confirming that yes, there had
24:34
been over thirty sightings of this
24:36
large predatory cat. Anyway,
24:40
NED was focused on getting the job done Meanwhile,
24:43
Mike is in his house asleep next to
24:45
his wife Julie. I
24:48
had drive away suns, you know, put you
24:50
know if anybody's coming on your property. Okay,
24:53
and I always beep
24:56
beep, beep, beep beep. Julie
24:58
looked at me and said, what was that? Such of the fetche
25:01
I could tell you know, you don't
25:03
have twenty beeps
25:05
going off for one car. It was
25:07
a whole group of them that came. They
25:09
had I RS guys, I had FBI
25:12
guys and a few DA guys
25:14
and Michigan State Police and
25:17
of course Ned Timmins was there too.
25:20
And in this moment when Ned Timmins
25:22
g Man shows up to arrest Mike
25:25
Vogel, master criminal, it
25:27
isn't some kind of tense standoff. They
25:29
don't stare each other down or cuss
25:31
each other out. Mike says that Ned
25:34
was pretty friendly, cordial, that
25:36
was the word he used, like two boxers
25:39
after a fight. All the swagger
25:41
gone and now just the
25:43
handshake. He
25:47
allowed me to go ahead and take a shower and
25:50
say goodbye to my wife and kids. Yeah,
25:52
we're going to prison. Mike
25:56
Vogel was indicted in federal court in Detroit.
25:59
The indictment alleged that he and a fellow
26:01
smugglers were responsible for importing
26:03
at least five hundred and sixty
26:06
six thousand pounds of marijuana.
26:08
Investing its estimated that over
26:10
the years they smuggled as much as
26:12
one billion dollars worth of drugs
26:15
into the US. Vogel
26:17
played guilty That same year, he was stripped
26:19
of his wealth forfeiting, among other
26:21
things, a boat, five cars,
26:24
and four homes in Michigan. He
26:26
was sentenced to twenty five years in prison.
26:29
Lee was arrested that Vogel was arrested, and it
26:32
became was all on the paper and the
26:34
whole lay of everything, and the
26:38
story made big headlines actually, and
26:40
for a moment Ned was kind of famous. An
26:43
article in the Detroit Free Press chronicled
26:45
Ned's adventures. An anonymous
26:47
source told the paper that Ned quote
26:50
made the case end quote. The
26:52
source went on to say, I've seen
26:54
a lot of undercover agents, but this
26:57
guy special. He's
26:59
got ice in his veins, and
27:01
he's a tough cookie, one of the new breed.
27:03
He's a high caliber agent who
27:05
has that unique ability to be able to understand
27:08
and worked with the people. He's been sent undercover
27:11
to investigate. For Ned,
27:13
it was vindication. He had spent
27:15
the better part of three years playing the role
27:17
of his alter ego. In a way,
27:20
he'd built Ed Thomas from the ground up. His
27:22
backstory, his demeanor, his friendships,
27:25
his hard drinking, hardy riding lifestyle,
27:28
and Ed Thomas had served his purpose.
27:31
It was as if all the risks that Ned
27:33
had taken, all the close calls, all
27:36
the paranoia, all the boundaries
27:38
he'd pushed somehow or another,
27:41
it had all worked out. So
27:46
maybe it was finally time to be done with undercover
27:48
work. After all, Ned
27:51
had a big win under his belt. Plus,
27:53
at almost the exact same time of these events,
27:55
in May of nineteen eighty six, there
27:58
was other big news. Ned's
28:00
son was born, and Ned
28:03
the action craving, sometimes
28:05
reckless, hardy riding undercover
28:07
guy. He of his son,
28:10
Cathy says that the baby was attached to him
28:13
at the hip. Oh
28:15
yeah, no, they were like freaking frac
28:17
I mean, as soon as he came in the
28:20
door, he'd picked him up. I
28:22
don't think he would put him
28:25
down. Just about every picture I
28:27
have he had this
28:29
shark that he caught while we
28:31
were on our honeymoon down in
28:33
the Keys, and here's this hammerhead
28:36
shark and he he has it installed
28:39
in the den of our home. And
28:44
so he'd put the baby up there, up on top
28:46
of the shark, like as if he's riding the shark,
28:48
and take a picture, you know. I mean,
28:50
he just couldn't get enough of our
28:53
oldest son, you know, even if
28:55
his parents would volunteer to you
28:57
know, Oh, leave the baby here and we'll take care
28:59
of him now now he's gone with us. Wow.
29:03
Yeah, did that make
29:05
you feel hopeful about Yes? I feel
29:08
and so yes, I felt very
29:10
very hopeful and good, good
29:14
about things. And I
29:17
felt that, you know, whatever
29:19
work he was going to wrap up then on Matt and
29:21
then that would be the end of that
29:24
case and he'd move on to the next set
29:26
of cases. I'm
29:28
like, oh, thank god, back to normal
29:30
life. But it did never
29:32
go back to normal life.
29:36
As it turns out Ned's case, it
29:38
wasn't over, not really. Mister
29:40
beach Club and the gentleman smuggler would
29:43
have their day in court, so there'd
29:45
be a trial, but that wasn't
29:47
all far to the south, down
29:49
in Central America, the silent
29:52
partner, the General Manuel
29:54
Noriega. He was still at large,
29:57
operating with impunity, but that
29:59
was about to change. Word was getting
30:01
out about what the General had been up to, and
30:04
in Washington, DC, a political
30:07
shit storm was brewing. Next
30:24
time on deep Cover, I
30:27
just knew that the
30:29
information that I could divulge about Noriega
30:31
and his activities were a
30:34
bombshell. There's no doubt
30:36
in my mind that there's ramifications
30:39
that go all the way to the top. But
30:41
I mean literally from Reagan on down. Deep
31:03
Cover is produced by Jacob Smith and
31:06
edited by Karen Shakerjee. Our
31:08
story edit is Jack hit original
31:11
music, and our theme was composed by Luis
31:13
Gara and Flawn Williams is our engineer.
31:16
Fact checking by Amy Gaines. Mia
31:19
Lobell is Pushkin's executive producer,
31:22
and Ned's novel is read by Walton Goggins.
31:25
Special thanks to Julia Barton, Heather
31:27
Fain, Carl mcgliori, Lee, Tom
31:29
Mullad Maya Kanig, Eric
31:32
Sandler, Aggie Taylor, Kadija
31:34
Holland, Zoe Gwenn, and Jacob
31:37
Weisberg at Pushkin Industries. Special
31:39
thanks also to Jeff Singer at Stowaway
31:42
Entertainment. I'm Jake Albern
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