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Hello friends and welcome back to Deep Dive, which is
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normally the weekly podcast where I have the immense privilege
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of sitting down with entrepreneurs and authors and creators and
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other inspiring people. And we find out how they got
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to where they are and the strategies and tools we
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can learn from them to help build a life that
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we love. This episode is a little
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bit different because as you may or may not
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know, my brand new book, Feel
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Good Productivity is now out. Yes, it's
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out finally after three and a half
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years of work, it is finally available
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for purchase in stores all around
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the world. And in this episode, I
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thought we would include the segment
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of the audiobook, that's the introduction to the book. So
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if you haven't yet listened to the audiobook, and you
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want to get a flavor for what the book is
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about, this is the introduction. It's the
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first chapter where I lay out the thesis of
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Feel Good Productivity, which is what it's all about.
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And I tell the story of how I first discovered
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the principles of Feel Good Productivity. So
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if you're interested in checking out the book, there'll be links in
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the show notes. If you want to check them out, you can
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go to feelgoodproductivity.com, you can check it out on Amazon or Barnes
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and Noble or Waterstones or you know, wherever you normally get your
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books. And I'd really appreciate your
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support. If you've gotten value from my content, I would love it if you
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could buy a copy of the book. But
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hopefully this introduction gives you a bit of an
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idea as to what's going on with the book.
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And then you can decide whether it's something you
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might like to hear more of. So without further
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ado, here is the introduction to Feel Good Productivity,
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read by me. Merry
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Christmas, Ollie. Try not to kill anyone. With
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these words, my consultant breezily hung up the
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phone, leaving me to handle an entire ward
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of patients alone. I was
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a newly qualified junior doctor, and three weeks
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previously, I'd made a rookie error, forgetting
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to fill out a form to request the
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holidays off. Now here I
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was managing a hospital ward on my own
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on Christmas Day. Things
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had started badly and rapidly got worse. When
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I arrived at the hospital, I was met
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by an avalanche of patient histories, diagnostic reports
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and cryptic scan requests that would have made
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more sense to a seasoned archaeologist than an
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on-call radiologist. Within minutes, I was
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confronted by the day's first emergency. A man
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in his fifties who had collapsed from a
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severe cardiac arrest. And then one
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of the nurses informed me that a patient
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urgently needed a manual evacuation. If you know,
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you know. At
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10.30am I looked around the ward. Nurse
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Janice was sprinting up and down corridor A
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in a panic, her arms overflowing with IV
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drips and medication shots. On
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corridor B, a stubborn elderly patient was
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loudly demanding his misplaced dentures. Carcie
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had been taken over by a drunken
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exile from the emergency department, wandering the
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corridor and shouting, Olive, Olive, I
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never learned who Olive was. And
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every minute somebody was making a new demand.
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Dr. Ali, can you check on Mrs. Johnson's
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fever? Dr. Ali, can you help with Mr.
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Singh's elevated potassium? I
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soon found myself starting to panic. Medical
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school hadn't prepared me for anything like this. Until
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then, I'd always been quite an effective student. Whenever
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the going got tough, my strategy was simple,
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work harder. It was a
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method that had got me into medical school seven years previously.
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It had allowed me to secure a handful of
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publications and academic journals. It
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had even allowed me to launch a business while I
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studied. Discipline was the only
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productivity system I knew, and it worked.
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Except now, it wasn't working. Since
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starting as a doctor a few months previously, I'd felt
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like I was drowning. Even when
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I worked late into the night, I couldn't see the
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number of patients or finish the paperwork that I needed
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to. My mood was suffering too. I'd
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enjoyed my medical training to be a doctor, but
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I was finding the actual job utterly depressing, constantly
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worrying that I might make a mistake that would
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kill someone. I stopped sleeping,
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friendships faded, my family stopped hearing from
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me, and I just kept working hard.
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And now this, Christmas Day, alone on a hospital
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ward, failing to get through my shift. Nothing
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came to a head when I dropped a tray
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of medical supplies, sending syringes flying across the linoleum
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floor. As
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I forlornly looked down at my damp scrubs, I
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realized I had to figure things out, or my
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dream of becoming a surgeon would slip through my fingers.
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That night, I hung up my stethoscope, grabbed a
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mince pie and opened my laptop. I'd
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once been so productive, I thought. What
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had I forgotten? During my
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first year at medical school, I'd become obsessed with
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the secrets of productivity. I'd
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stayed up night after night, making notes on
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hundreds of articles, blog posts and videos, promising
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the key to optimal performance. All
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the gurus emphasized the importance of hard slog.
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A Muhammad Ali quote came up a lot. I
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hated every minute of training, but I said, don't
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quit, suffer now and live the rest of your
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life as a champion. As
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Christmas turned to Boxing Day, I stayed up, poring
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over my old notes and wondered whether that was
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where I was going wrong. Did
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I just need to regain my old work ethic? But
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when I returned to work the next day, resolving to
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just do more, it made no difference. Even
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though I stayed on the ward until midnight, and
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even though I was reciting Muhammad Ali's line to
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myself during my toilet breaks, I wasn't getting through
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my paperwork any quicker. My
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patients were still getting a tired, ineffective version
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of Ali, and I was
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still displaying a conspicuous lack of Christmas cheer.
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At the end of my hardest day yet, I felt
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completely underwater, and then from nowhere, I
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remembered some words of wisdom from my old tutor,
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Dr. Barkley. If
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the treatment isn't working, question the
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diagnosis. Only
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then, all at once, I started to doubt all
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the productivity advice I'd absorbed. Did
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success really require suffering? What
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was success anyway? Was suffering even sustainable?
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Did it make sense that feeling overwhelmed would be good
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for getting things done? Did
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I have to trade my health and happiness for,
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well, anything? It would take
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me a few months, but I was stumbling
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my way to a revelation that everything I'd
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been told about success was wrong. I
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couldn't hustle my way to becoming a good doctor. Being
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harder wasn't going to bring me happiness. And
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there was another path to fulfillment, one that
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wasn't lined with constant anxiety, sleepless nights and
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a concerning depression. I didn't
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have all the answers, not by long shot, but
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for the first time I could make out the beginnings
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of an alternative approach. An approach
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that didn't hinge on exhaustingly hard work,
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but on understanding what made hard work
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feel better. An approach that
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focused on my wellbeing first and used that
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wellbeing to drive my focus and motivation second.
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An approach I would come to refer
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to as feel-good productivity. The
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surprising secrets of feel-good productivity. Back
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in medical school, my obsession with productivity had led me
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to tack on an extra year to earn a psychology
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degree. As
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I started putting together the pieces of feel-good productivity,
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I remembered a study I'd been tested on. One
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that involved a candle, a book of matches and
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a box of thumbtacks. Picture
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yourself with these three objects before you. Your
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task is to stick the candle to the cork
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board on the wall so that when it's lit,
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the candle wax won't drip onto the table below.
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You find yourself puzzling over the items, turning them
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over in your hands. Can you think
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of the solution? And here
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in the supplementary PDF you will find the diagram, but I'll
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just describe it to you because I know that you might
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be listening to this while driving or something. Basically
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it's a diagram of a candle, three matches
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and a box of thumbtacks. So
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when presented with this problem, most people only consider
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the candle, the matches and the thumbtacks. But
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more innovative minds recognize the potential of
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the thumbtack box. The optimal
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solution to the puzzle involves viewing the thumbtack
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box not just as a container, but as
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a candle holder. And
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again in the supplementary PDF you'll see what this
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looks like in diagrammatic form. Basically the box is
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attached to the wall using the thumbtacks, which are
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these little pin thingies. The candle is on top
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of the box and the matches are underneath. And
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so the idea is that if the candle drips,
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the wax goes onto the box rather than onto
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the floor, thus solving the problem. This
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is the candle problem, a classic test of
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creative thinking. First developed by Karl
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Dunker and published posthumously in 1945, it has since been
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used in
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countless studies testing everything from cognitive
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flexibility to the psychological fallout of
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stress. In the
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late 1970s, psychologist Alice Eisen used
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it as the basis for an
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influential experiment to study how mood
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affects people's creativity. Eisen
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began by dividing her volunteers into two groups.
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One group was given a small gift, a bag
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of candy, before facing the candle problem. The
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other group started the task with no such incentive.
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The theory went that those who were given the sweets
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would have a more positive mood when they tried to
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solve the puzzle. Eisen
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found something interesting. Those whose moods were
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subtly improved by the gift were significantly
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more successful in solving the candle problem.
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When I first read about Eisen's experiment during
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my psychology degree, I found it interesting but
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not exactly transformative. Personally, I'd
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never felt the overwhelming urge to stick a candle to
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a wall. But coming back
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to it as a junior doctor, I realized that
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Eisen's insight was quite profound. It
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suggested that feeling good doesn't just end with feeling
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good. It actually changes our patterns
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of thought and behavior. I
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now learned that the study had become the
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cornerstone of a wave of research exploring the
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way positive emotions affect many of our cognitive
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processes. It showed that when
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we're in a positive mood, we tend to
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consider a broader range of actions, be more
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open to new experiences, and better integrate the
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information we receive. In other
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words, feeling good boosts our creativity
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and our productivity. One
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of the first people to explore how exactly
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this works was Barbara Fredrickson. A
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professor at the University of North Carolina
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at Chapel Hill, Fredrickson is one of
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the leading figures in positive psychology, a
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relatively new branch of psychology that focuses
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on understanding and promoting happiness. In
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the late 1990s, Fredrickson proposed what
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she called the broaden and build theory
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of positive emotions. According
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to the broaden and build theory,
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positive emotions broaden our awareness and
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build our cognitive and social resources.
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Broaden refers to the immediate effect of
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positive emotions. When we're feeling good,
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our minds open up, we take in... more
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information and we see more possibilities around
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us. Consider the
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candle problem. In a positive mood, participants were
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able to see a broader range of potential
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solutions. Filled refers
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to the long-term effects of positive emotions. When
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we experience positive emotions, we build up a
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reservoir of mental and emotional resources that can
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help us in the future. Resources
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like resilience, creativity, problem-solving skills,
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social connections and physical health.
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Over time, these two processes reinforce
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each other, creating an upward spiral
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of positivity, growth and success. The
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theory suggests a whole new way of understanding the
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role of positive emotions in our lives. They're
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not just fleeting feelings that come and go
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without consequence. They're integral to
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our cognitive functioning, our social relationships
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and our overall well-being. Positive
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emotions are the fuel that drives the engine
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of human flourishing. Why
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feel-good productivity works. When
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I first started learning about broaden and build, I caught
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a glimpse of a different way of thinking about my
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life. For years, I thought that by
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simply hustling harder, I could achieve the things I
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wanted. If I wanted to be
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a good doctor, the life ahead of me would
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be defined by grinding, unrelenting work. Now
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I could see another way. Fredrickson's
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theory suggests that positive emotions change the
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way our brains operate. Step
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one is feeling better. Step two is
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doing more of what matters to us. But
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why? I wondered. The
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more I read, the more I realized that the explanations
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are varied and in some cases remain unclear. But
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scientists have started to home in on a few answers.
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First, feeling good boosts our energy.
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Most of us have felt an energy
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that's not strictly physical or biological, one
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that doesn't come from sugar or carbohydrates,
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but from a mix of motivation, focus
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and inspiration. What's
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the energy you feel when you're working on
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a particularly engrossing task, or when you're surrounded
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by inspiring people? This
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energy has many different names. It's
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been labeled as emotional, spiritual, mental
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or motivational energy by psychologists?
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Zest, vitality or energetic arousal
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by neuroscientists? But
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if researchers can't agree on what to name
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it, they're agreed that it makes us focused,
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inspired and motivated to pursue our goals. So
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what's the source of this mysterious energy? A
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short answer, feeling good. Positive
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emotions are bound up with a set
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of four hormones, endorphins, serotonin, dopamine and
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oxytocin, which are often labeled as the
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feel-good hormones. All of them
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allow us to accomplish more. Endorphins
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are often released during physical activity, stress
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or pain, and bring about feelings of
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happiness and diminished discomfort, and elevated levels
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usually correlate with increased energy and motivation.
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Serotonin is connected to mood regulation,
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sleep, appetite and overall feelings of
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well-being. It underpins our
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sense of contentment and gives us the energy
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to tackle tasks efficiently. hormone
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or the reward hormone is linked with motivation
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and pleasure, and its release provides a satisfaction
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that allows us to focus for longer. And
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oxytocin, known as the love hormone,
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is associated with social bonding, trust and
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relationship building, which enhances our capacity to
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connect with others, boosts our mood and
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in turn impacts our productivity. All
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this means that these feel-good hormones are the
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starting point of a virtuous cycle. When
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we feel good, we generate energy, which
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boosts our productivity, and this
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productivity leads to feelings of achievement, which make
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us feel good all over again. Second,
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feeling good reduces our stress. In
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addition to the broaden and build
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theory, Barbara Fredrickson also developed what
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psychologists call the undoing hypothesis. Fredrickson
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and her colleagues were interested in decades of
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research showing that negative emotions cause the release
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of stress hormones like adrenaline and cortisol. This
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isn't a problem in the short term, it's the mechanism that
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motivates us to run from danger. But
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if we experience these negative sensations too often,
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we become riddled with anxiety and office. physical
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health surface. A continuous
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activation of these hormones can even increase the
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risk of developing heart disease and high blood
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pressure, not ideal. Fredrickson
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wondered about the flip side. If negative
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emotions have these harmful physiological effects, then
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perhaps positive emotions could reverse them. Might
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feeling good reset the nervous system and put the
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body into a more relaxed state? To
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test this out, Fredrickson came up with a rather mean
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study. Researchers told a group of
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people that they had one minute to prepare a
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public speech that would be filmed and judged by
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their peers. Knowing that the
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fear of public speaking is practically universal, Fredrickson
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hypothesized that this would elevate the subject's
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levels of anxiety and stress. And
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it did. People reported feeling more anxious and
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experienced increases in heart rate and blood pressure.
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Next, the researchers randomly assigned participants to
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watch one of four films, two evoking
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mildly positive emotions, the third neutral ones
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and the fourth sad ones. And
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they then measured how long it took the participants
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to recover from the stress. Their
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findings were intriguing. The participants who
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watched the positive emotion films took significantly less
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time to return to their baseline state in
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terms of heart rate and blood pressure. And
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those who watched the sadness evoking film took
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the longest time to return to baseline. This
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is the undoing hypothesis that positive
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emotions can undo the effects of
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stress and other negative emotions. If
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stress is the problem, then feeling good might just
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be the solution. But
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the final and perhaps most transformative implication
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of feel good productivity goes well beyond
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any one task or project. Because
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third, feeling good enriches your life.
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In 2005, a team of psychologists read all
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the studies they could find on the complex
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relationship between happiness and success. They
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delved into 225 published papers, which involved data
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from over 275,000 individuals.
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Their question, does success, as we're often told,
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make us happier, or could it be
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the other way around? The
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study offered hard evidence that we tend to get
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happiness wrong. Individuals who
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frequently experience positive emotions aren't just
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more sociable, optimistic, and creative. They
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also accomplish more. These
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people bring an infectious energy to their
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environment, proving more likely to enjoy fulfilling
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relationships, get higher salaries, and
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truly shine in their professional lives. Those
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who cultivate positive emotions at work morph
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into better problem solvers, planners, creative
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thinkers, and resilient go-getters. Their
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less-dressed attract higher evaluations from their superiors
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and show a higher degree of loyalty
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to their organizations. Put
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simply, success doesn't lead to feeling good. Feeling
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good leads to success. And
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we have a diagram in the book here which
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basically summarizes what we've just said, which is that
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feeling good firstly boosts your energy, secondly it reduces
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your stress, and thirdly it enriches your life. And
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there are some cute little icons in that diagram, but
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obviously you're listening to the audiobooks, you can't appreciate the
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illustrative prowess that went into these, but that's okay. How
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to use this audiobook? Back
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in that first harrowing year as a doctor, most of
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these discoveries were still years ahead of me. I
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was working endless shifts and trying to shoehorn
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my productivity research into the fleeting breaks between
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visiting patients. But even
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the basic insights I uncovered were enough to cause
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a dramatic change in my relationship with work. When
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I started to let go of my obsessions
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with discipline, and focused instead on making work
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feel good, my horrific shifts started to get
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easier. Soon, my mood started to
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improve too. I remember
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one appointment with an elderly patient a few
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months after I discovered feel good productivity. You
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know doctor, she said, you're the first one in
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here who has smiled all week. These
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new perspectives wouldn't just alter my approach to
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being a doctor, they would alter the direction
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of my life altogether. For
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the first time in years I began to
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see the opportunities beyond the confines of my
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work, my friendships, my family, and the other
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passions that had sidelined. And
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I soon found myself wanting to share my discovery.
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For a few years I've been running a YouTube channel on which
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I... hosted study tips and technology reviews.
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Now I started sharing practical insights that
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I'd learned from psychology and neuroscience, using
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myself as the guinea pig, experimenting with
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everything I learned and the strategies I
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thought might work. As
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my radical notion that success doesn't have to be
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tied to suffering, started to gain traction, I started
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to get more and more emails from my viewers.
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High school students aced their exams, business
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owners doubled their income, parents managed to
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balance work and family life better, all
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by applying the strategies I was sharing. Even
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seasoned professionals, worn out from the grind
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of corporate life, were discovering fresh energy,
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motivation and a new direction. And
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so was I. The more I read, the more
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my philosophy developed. Eventually, by following
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the same principles and strategies I was learning
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about, I realized that I wanted to take
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a break from medicine to pursue something new.
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That's when I knew I had to write this book. What's
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contained in this audio book isn't just another productivity
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system to help you get more done at any
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cost, it's about doing more of what
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matters to you. It'll
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help you learn more about yourself, what you love
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and what really motivates you. My
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method has three parts, each of which tackles
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a different aspect of feel-good productivity. Part
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one explains how to use the science of
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feel-good productivity to energize yourself. It
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introduces the three energizers that
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underpin positive emotions, play, power
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and people, and explains how to integrate them
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into your daily life. Next,
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part two examines how feel-good productivity
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can help us overcome procrastination. You'll
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learn about the three blockers that make
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us feel worse, uncertainty, fear and inertia,
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and how to overcome them. When
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you remove these blockers, you won't just overcome
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procrastination, you'll feel better too. Finally,
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in part three, we'll explore how feel-good productivity
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can sustain us in the long term. We'll
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delve into the three different types
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of burnout, overexertion burnout, depletion burnout
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and a misalignment burnout. And
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I'll explain how we can harness three simple
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sustainers, conserve, recharge and align, to make us
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feel better not just for days and weeks,
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but for months and years. Every
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chapter contains its fair share of practical tips, but
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my goal in this book isn't to offer you
20:05
some sprawling to-do list, it's to offer you a
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philosophy, a new way of thinking about productivity that
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you can apply to your own life in your
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own way. My hope is
20:14
that you leave this book an amateur productivity scientist
20:16
as it were, finding some methods
20:18
at work, discarding others and working savoury to
20:20
see what helps you feel good and achieve
20:23
more. That's
20:25
why every chapter contains not only three
20:27
simple, science-backed ideas that you can use
20:29
to rethink productivity, but also
20:31
six experiments that you can implement in your
20:33
own life. If an experiment
20:36
works for you, great! If it doesn't,
20:38
then that too is a helpful insight. By
20:40
the end of the book though, you should have
20:42
a toolkit for applying feel-good productivity to your own
20:44
work, relationships and life. I only
20:47
hope it works as well for you as it has for me,
20:50
because if there's one thing I've learned by
20:52
immersing myself in the science of feel-good productivity,
20:54
it's that it applies in every sphere. It
20:57
turns daunting tasks into engaging changes, it
21:00
leads to deeper connections with peers, it drives
21:02
meaningful interactions in what you do every day.
21:05
By understanding and applying what makes you feel
21:07
good, you won't just transform your work, you'll
21:09
transform your life. Feel-good
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productivity is a simple method, but it
21:14
changes everything. It shows that if
21:16
you've ever felt underwater, you don't have to settle
21:18
for staying afloat. You can learn how
21:20
to swim. Let's dive in! you
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