This podcast is about race and politics in America, but it is not what you think. This podcast is hosted by Christopher Holman and Matthew Sprague, two men that met at a Hypnotherapy College where they learned about the subconscious mind and how it influences our behavior. Their different races and background color their differing perspectives. In times like these is important to have real long-form conversation so we can better identify the problems in our society. As real conversation seems to be fading away Matt and Chris are determined to push forward meaningful conversation. Matt and Chris pride themselves on trying to stay independent-minded. They also try not to get boxed in by identity politics and the high polarization of these topics and the times were in.