This week I sat down with Sadie-Pheonix Lavoie and Jacqueline Pelland, who both have mixed Indigenous identity and have positions on the University of Winnipeg Students' Association, to talk about the recent controversy around Joseph Boyden's claim to indigenous identity. On December 23, APTN released a long article debunking Boyden's claims to Indigenous identity. Boyden has been paid to speak as an Indigenous perspective previously, and the article opened up a national conversation on identity politics. Here we talk about how Boyden takes space away from others in the conversation, where these conversations would be most fruitful, and how news media continues to limit the range of voices being heard on the issue.