I spoke with Tracy Booth, former executive director of the Elizabeth Fry Society, and Bronwyn Dobchuk-Land, a Criminal Justice faculty member at University of Winnipeg and organizer with Bar None Winnipeg about coverage of deaths in the Winnipeg Remand Centre. In the past six months, six people have died in custody. We talk about how this happens, why it receives little coverage, why coverage emphasizes facts instead of feelings, and how it all fits into the colonial narrative that's violent against Indigenous people of Turtle Island.