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Hi, I'm James Deacon and welcome

1:55

to Desert Island Dicks, the show that sees you marooned on a desert island. after

2:00

a plane crash with the worst people and worst

2:02

things imaginable. Who they are and

2:04

why they're a dick is up to our guests. And

2:06

here to share their desert island dicks with us today

2:09

is Will and Bill from the bound home counties.

2:11

How are you boys doing? We're very well thank

2:13

you. Very well thank you. Glad to be here. Yeah thanks

2:15

for joining me. I think I was saying to you before it's quite exciting.

2:18

We get a lot of comedians on here which I think you

2:20

know it's great. I do enjoy that but it's rarely

2:22

that we're getting any any bands on as

2:24

a lover of music. This is very exciting for me. So thank

2:27

you for joining me. Also you've just

2:29

announced your debut album which is pretty exciting.

2:31

How are you feeling about that? Yeah we're feeling

2:33

good. It's been a long as well. The last

2:36

few days have been a bit stressful leading up to

2:38

the announcement just pulling everything together in about 50

2:40

email chains and freak

2:43

chats. It's just like yeah and

2:45

you don't really know quite what's going on. But we got it over the

2:47

line. We got it announced. Yeah down to

2:49

the down to the wire Bowie. Yeah. Well

2:53

it all looks very good online. We'll get into it a little

2:55

bit more at the end but I would say like two

2:58

very different worlds probably. When you're working as a band,

3:00

writing and recording an album you're

3:02

as a little tiny unit and all of a sudden

3:04

there's all these other people involved in

3:06

the situation right? Is that how it works? Yeah

3:10

exactly right. We're

3:11

normally just kind of cooped

3:13

away just working on it between us and

3:15

then when you end up getting

3:18

to actually putting it out you do have to just get a lot of

3:21

other people involved which is you know it starts

3:23

with a lot of other artists and everything when you're

3:26

trying to get like the album artwork sorted and

3:29

and you know these different kind of assets that

3:31

go along with the release and working with other artists

3:33

is like its own thing you know and then up there

3:36

you come to the having a bit more of the admin

3:39

admin grunt work. It's been a great

3:41

sheet come out. Oh no

3:43

that's the least fun bit. Okay well

3:45

uh I mean aesthetically it's looking great.

3:48

I've seen all the stuff that's been posted online and looks

3:50

lovely so great work and we'll talk about it

3:52

a little bit more in detail at the end. I want to

3:54

ask you how did you find

3:56

choosing your people and things for the

3:58

desert island? It's difficult.

3:59

It's a hard format because it's

4:02

like you don't want to be like offensive.

4:04

Yeah, you don't want to take it too seriously. No,

4:07

of course, of course. There's a lot

4:09

of like sort of political figures you

4:12

could choose. I think it's a

4:14

fun challenge though because it's, I think

4:16

the second you sit

4:19

and think about it, there is actually a long list of

4:21

people that actually you wouldn't want to be

4:23

placed in that situation. I guess, yeah, that the immediate

4:26

thought was like people you

4:29

objectively hate, but then you realise

4:31

like maybe they're not actually the worst

4:33

people to be on the desert island with. It

4:36

is actually the most annoying.

4:38

Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

4:41

Yeah. I think that sounds, it sounds like you've taken

4:43

a really smart room and I'm very intrigued to

4:45

hear who you've chosen. So can I

4:47

ask you, who's your first choice going to be for the desert island?

4:50

I mean, we,

4:51

yeah, again, like I said, we went back and forth on

4:53

these for a while. I think the one that kind of stuck around

4:55

in my head though would be like someone like Gordon

4:58

Ramsay. Yeah. Because

5:01

we will, it will come to my head because I think he's

5:03

just done another season of Kitchen Nightmares. I

5:05

remember that was something that people just watched on like compilation

5:08

clips. You do watch it and it is just him

5:11

berating these like tiny small

5:13

business owners. Oh no. I'm

5:15

just like, you know, slaying them to like not know

5:18

how to fry fish and stuff. I mean, I don't know how to

5:20

fry fish, but like, I

5:22

don't know. I think you'd want them more help

5:24

than that. And I just figured like if

5:26

you're in a desert island situation, like

5:29

food is scarce, you're having to make tough decisions.

5:33

You're going to have to be resourceful as possible.

5:36

I just felt like whatever you ended up cooking up to

5:39

have be with someone that would like criticize you

5:41

for it would just be the last thing that I

5:43

would need in that situation.

5:45

For sure. For sure. It's

5:48

such a difficult character to be around, criticized

5:51

and like put down. Nothing

5:53

was ever going to be good enough. You're not going to be able to like

5:56

reach his standards at any point, but you're

5:58

just trying to survive.

5:59

I had this image of me like hunched over like

6:02

a tiny little fire like desperately

6:04

trying to like stir some

6:06

like shallots that we'd found or something. I was getting like

6:08

spit sprayed by Ramsay. A

6:10

shot shallot. Yeah. Spit

6:16

sprayed by Ramsay is a great quote.

6:18

I think

6:19

yeah, really difficult. He actually

6:22

came to a local business like literally like 10

6:25

minutes from where I am right now and completely

6:28

ruined them. But I think fair enough

6:30

but like I'd eaten there a few times

6:32

and when he first did his like it

6:35

must have been yeah was it kitchen nightmares when

6:37

he goes in and he basically berates your business.

6:39

He went in and the hygiene standards

6:42

in there were insane. There

6:44

you go. It's always the freezes like that.

6:46

It's the same when you watch when you binge watch them.

6:49

You do see

6:49

like these pans emerging and it is

6:51

like he criticizes the menu or whatever and then he goes

6:54

you know talks about the hygiene. You go to the freezes and they've

6:56

just got like prehistoric meats

6:59

in there. It hasn't been touched in

7:02

hundreds of years. That was grim.

7:04

Yeah. Yeah. Have you? Is that what you do

7:06

for downtime then in between writing and recording?

7:09

Are you watching a lot of kitchen nightmares or? It

7:11

comes on you know. It's

7:14

no stranger. As I say, you know

7:16

the new season as well. It's kind of like

7:18

a bit nostalgia as well. He's

7:21

like in mid 60s. You

7:23

think he would like simmer down a little. The thing

7:26

is I actually I really like Gordon Ramsay. I think

7:29

this is one of my disagreements. I could

7:31

like if you watch like the first season of kitchen nightmares

7:33

the UK one he's actually like quite nice. There's

7:35

one where he goes to a restaurant and he's actually

7:38

like wow the food is really good and

7:40

it's really clean. He's like well done. He

7:42

just like gave them some new curtains or something. That's

7:45

like the only example of that happening.

7:48

Pretty sound guy. There's Jen

7:50

really I think. I think like the Americanized

7:53

Portray. Yeah. He's like. Yeah.

7:56

Yeah. He's like. Yeah.

7:59

Yeah.

7:59

to watch that always like working on the show and it

8:02

was like I tell you what's really good is when you start

8:04

swearing at people do more of that and

8:06

that's what like you know they were like do you

8:08

want to make loads of money we can make loads of money off

8:10

you doing this and I think he was just like yeah sure

8:13

yeah that'd be fun obviously

8:15

in the desert island context it could go the other way

8:17

like you could bring

8:19

him you

8:20

know some like kind of some leaves maybe

8:23

and like maybe you caught a fish or some

8:25

shells or like he could like whip

8:27

it up into some Michelin star level

8:30

pay he could

8:32

but I think he wouldn't I think he would just

8:34

look over here and be like you're pathetic

8:37

you're burning it yeah

8:42

idiot sandwich yeah good

8:44

Gordon Ramsay's gonna be your first choice who

8:46

is gonna be your second choice I'm gonna do one not

8:49

uh it's not a celebrity it's

8:51

more like a sort of type of person

8:53

okay and it's the people that excessively

8:55

talk about sports and there's one

8:57

there's one person in mind who

9:00

like my rugby coach when I was younger

9:02

I played rugby for a few years I was terrified

9:04

to leave I hated it terrified to leave because of

9:06

the coach just like unable

9:09

to talk about anything except rugby yeah

9:12

I can't imagine anything worse I've

9:14

been a person over the years since

9:16

like down on the high street of the local town or whatever

9:19

it's just straight away like did

9:21

you see the results of the lower

9:23

league

9:24

rugby game on Saturday like

9:27

some non-professional teams like

9:29

of course I did it these

9:32

bonkers yeah yeah like

9:34

some people that becomes their personality

9:37

it's just like knowing those things and that

9:39

that's their that's their own special club

9:41

is that they know that stuff in the state

9:43

of being locked away on the Dead Island

9:46

not being able to access the results of all these

9:48

games they'd be

9:50

absolutely furious it's maddening and I

9:52

just I wonder how

9:55

like wick and wonder is

9:57

under under 11s have done on on

10:00

their tournament on Wednesday.

10:05

I couldn't deal with that. You would have to

10:08

come up with your own games on the

10:10

islands just to keep them satisfied,

10:13

keep track of stuff. Yeah. That

10:16

would be annoying. It'd be like,

10:18

come on guys, let's get a game of,

10:20

I don't know, keep your puppies going every day.

10:23

And they're just like, nah, I don't think so. Not today, mate.

10:26

That's

10:26

a different

10:27

corner of hell. If you're like traveling on a desert

10:29

island and you're still playing rugby. Yeah.

10:32

What? Like

10:35

stupidly long socks. The

10:39

post that have like four strategically

10:41

placed trees. Yeah. So you played rugby

10:43

for a while. You were desperate to get out, but you could have. What

10:46

stopped you getting out then, this coach? I was scared

10:48

that

10:50

like, actually, we played once played

10:52

a fundraiser in my band when I was about 14. I've

10:54

been in a band for years and

10:57

I was never very, I obviously didn't enjoy

10:59

rugby very much and you could tell in my performance.

11:02

I didn't want to tackle anyone. Didn't want to, I

11:04

was really crap at throwing the ball. A pair

11:06

with this. Yeah. So I was,

11:08

generally, generally not that good at rugby. No,

11:10

terrible. But I was in this coach

11:12

like believed in me for some reason because we once

11:14

played a fundraiser at a rugby club

11:17

and he saw me play on stage and

11:19

he came up to me afterwards and was like,

11:21

if you put the passion you put into that

11:23

performance on the rugby pitch, you'll be our

11:25

best player. And he was

11:28

like, well, I

11:30

don't like rugby. So that's why

11:33

I don't. I've already seen

11:35

the transfer in skills. The

11:38

rugby legends of our generation, like

11:40

X rock stars. Yeah. Like

11:42

Paul McCartney on the pitch. So weak from

11:45

just looking myself in my bedroom playing guitar for

11:48

eight hours a day. Also,

11:51

it's just

11:51

like,

11:52

it's kind of sad that that guy has to

11:54

circle everything back. It's just like,

11:57

why should have done this come up and say, I tell you

11:59

what, that was really. Well done, I was well impressed

12:01

with you playing there. Do you know what I mean? Not being like,

12:04

take those skills and stick them on the pitch. Why

12:07

does it have to end up in rugby?

12:09

Pack it in son. And I think if we go into

12:11

on the desert island, it's

12:13

going to be using rugby as a metaphor

12:15

for everything we're doing.

12:17

Like it will be like trying to light

12:19

the fire. It will be some sort of like

12:22

a scrum. Or

12:26

everything would be done through that prison. And I

12:28

don't think I could deal with it. You have to beat

12:30

nature 3-0. Yeah.

12:34

Oh, this is good. This is really good.

12:36

I think like I like a personal one. And

12:39

yeah, that is a frustrating character. It's

12:42

a funny challenge as well when you're in situations,

12:45

you know, when you go watch a game with them, but you don't

12:47

you're not actually into the game really

12:49

at all. So you have you end up

12:51

having to pick some kind of side. My

12:54

friend came on this role, which is you always

12:56

support the team in red. Like no matter

12:59

who they are. So that's actually

13:01

done. I think that that saved my skin a lot

13:03

to be fair. Like you showed the game like Arsenal.

13:05

Yeah. Come on, you red. Yeah. Come on, you red.

13:08

You come on, you red. Because

13:12

Arsenal fans, they're always saying that. Yeah, they can't

13:14

stop them. That's their

13:16

charm. That's their charm. OK,

13:20

so rugby coach is going to be a second choice.

13:23

Yeah. Yeah. OK, OK,

13:25

cool. And who is going to be your third choice?

13:28

This

13:30

choice. So I'm going

13:32

to choose Chris Martin, I think.

13:35

And I mean, I'll never forget. I feel

13:37

a bit,

13:39

you know, it's a bit conflicted about because I will

13:41

know. I feel a bit betraying because,

13:43

you know, I saw Coldplay actually had

13:45

the Emirates, actually, you know,

13:49

I saw Coldplay, you know, and I'm out in that go

13:51

on. You read. I

13:54

finished and I was like, who won? You

13:58

know, and I enjoyed it.

13:59

I think it was really good. I

14:02

think it was ruined it for me was

14:04

during the lockdown. He was doing loads

14:06

of live streams and he was talking about,

14:08

he was at his piano and he's talking

14:11

about how he was up late

14:13

one night noodling on a song or whatever

14:15

and then his wife was like, oh, come to

14:17

bed. And he just said, he was like, oh, I like, I don't

14:19

like going to bed. I've always hated going to bed because I

14:21

just love life so much. And

14:24

I remember literally like, oh, I mean,

14:27

that is, that's not the attitude that

14:29

you want to have with someone on a desert island.

14:31

I need a bit of like realism, a bit

14:34

of bleakness, a little bit of like,

14:37

you know, a bit of self deprecating humor,

14:39

maybe a bit of a depression. I think if you're

14:41

like trapped on that, like completely

14:43

dire scenario with someone

14:46

that is just a pure

14:47

positive force would be too

14:49

much. Definitely. Yeah, yeah.

14:52

I think I think as that, but also

14:54

if they come out with such

14:56

cringe inducing lines as I just

14:59

love life too much to go to sleep, I

15:01

don't know if I could bear that for that long. I

15:03

just wouldn't want to be around that person. No,

15:05

no. And he sees obviously he had

15:07

his whole thing with because he was married to Gwyneth Paltrow.

15:10

So there's also that like,

15:11

you just need to have a bit of a meditate about here,

15:14

which is maybe not like the kind of go

15:17

getting attitude that is going to get you off a

15:19

desert island. No,

15:21

no. And if there's God

15:23

forbid, like there's an acoustic guitar laying around. Don't

15:28

want campfire songs. No, if you wouldn't

15:30

know for sure. It'd be like it's one called

15:32

Yellow again. I just

15:35

think like, the

15:38

difficult thing is yeah, I don't blame you for going

15:40

to see Coldplay. My wife went to see Coldplay when she was

15:42

younger. And like, I think given the opportunity,

15:44

if I knew anyone that liked Coldplay and was like,

15:46

do you want to go to Coldplay? I probably would have gone to see

15:48

him because like, it's

15:50

undeniable that they've got some good

15:52

songs, but it's like, they're not very cool

15:55

band to like. Yeah.

16:01

So it's difficult. It's

16:03

like a stadium band, isn't it? You watch it

16:05

and then you hear every single

16:07

song and you're like, oh yeah, I know this one. And

16:10

then you're like, you're singing the chorus and then the next one you're like,

16:12

oh yeah, classic. And then you think that was

16:14

terrible. Yeah. You

16:19

see, he's once said in an interview that if he could write

16:21

an album half as good as OK Computer,

16:23

then he'll be like, so he's like, I don't know, I

16:25

found that really surprising because like

16:27

that's such a particular sound and album

16:30

and direction. And like, that's not what Coldplay

16:32

is.

16:33

So like, that's what he's going for. He's like, he's not getting

16:36

there. He's not really hit the mark. OK,

16:39

yeah. So Chris Martin for the desert island.

16:41

That is a, it's just a, that is a solid

16:43

choice. I mean, the detachment

16:47

from reality, not dissimilar to

16:49

Gordon Ramsey's in many ways. I imagine

16:51

those two are going to get on quite well. It's

16:53

just, it's like they're like they're stuck from

16:56

Hollywood itis kind of thing. The

16:58

pamper of LA. Chris Martin

17:00

goes on. Thank you very

17:02

much, Will and Bill. Now, mercifully among

17:04

the wreckage of the plane, there was some food and drink

17:06

left over. Unfortunately for you,

17:08

it's your least favorite food and drink in the world. What

17:11

are they and why are they so bad? The

17:14

drinks when we discussed

17:16

it between each other, it's basically we drew from

17:18

the exact same place. Yeah. Basically

17:22

from the place of alcoholic

17:24

drinks, which you can't drink anymore because of over

17:26

consumption as a teenager. Strong

17:30

go dark fruits. Oh, can

17:33

you imagine like opening that plane and

17:35

seeing just

17:37

crates of dark fruits.

17:39

Crates of warm dark fruits. Yeah, probably.

17:41

Yeah, it's lovely and warm. Pipes of warm

17:44

and just like, oh, that is that

17:46

scream. That's awful.

17:48

A lot of drinking dark fruits now is just like sweet

17:52

sweet taste. My teeth

17:54

hurt. I think it's

17:57

very corrosion, isn't it? Everything about it

17:59

is just horrible.

17:59

Do you have a story from

18:02

your fable youth or is all the hazy

18:04

blur?

18:05

Can't remember so much dark fruit.

18:08

I think well, I was thinking dark fruits

18:10

more is like I think dark We

18:12

wasn't a thing when we were first like yeah,

18:14

yeah, it was just regular strong but first and

18:17

black. Mm-hmm

18:18

But I think I probably could drink a strong by now,

18:21

but I don't think I could drink a dark fruits. It's

18:24

weaker Darfids, it's more.

18:26

Yeah Yeah They're

18:29

like always as well. I feel like it's

18:31

so tailored towards kids drinking.

18:34

It's crazy It's like the marketing team have got this

18:36

like everyone signs an NDA

18:38

and they only talk about in a little room They're like how

18:40

how can we market this to 15 year old? Yeah

18:43

Like a little straw I

18:53

remember I remember

18:56

one like kind of festival season They

18:59

were doing Morrison's or as though

19:01

we're doing like kegs of dark

19:03

fruits

19:04

so you can buy like a little keg in here and you can little tap

19:07

on it and pump it out yourself and we

19:09

went to this festival and

19:10

We had to you

19:12

know, those the big like fences like to kind of

19:14

cordon off the different areas We

19:17

were like we had to move some beers from the car

19:20

to the arena But we didn't want to like bother

19:22

carrying them all the way around because we could see where we needed

19:24

to pass them So we like pass

19:27

the crates under the fence, but then when the keg

19:29

wouldn't fit so my friend Just

19:33

threw the keg over over

19:36

the fence I saw like soaring

19:38

through the air and like starting in the

19:40

ground

19:40

We

19:44

obviously like still cracked, you know cracked in put

19:46

the tap on and everything that comes up was like

19:48

this like purple foam I Get

19:52

the whole thing be like if we were to survive

19:55

the wreck it yeah in a way you actually it

19:57

would be fixed up Wouldn't it? It was a little tiny

20:00

foam and it wouldn't settle or anything it was just like

20:02

candy fots in a glass. Oh

20:04

my god. Oiling hot island. It's

20:06

like oh, that's what I want to drink. A parched.

20:08

Add some dark fruits foam. Yeah. That's

20:11

grim. That's great. Oh yeah. I

20:15

feel like dark fruits like

20:18

pass me by in a way but like

20:20

my wife and my one

20:22

of our friends they have like this running joke

20:25

and like every time we have a party whoever's

20:28

going to the other one will bring four dark

20:30

fruits and it's just like they always have

20:33

like one or two at the start and they're like

20:35

but it's just for a joke. I don't know how

20:37

the joke started but there's always dark fruits

20:39

involved but it never goes down

20:41

well. No. It must be like 50

20:44

grams of sugar in each one. It's like more than

20:46

a local side. I

20:48

used to work in a pub in Bristol and

20:52

all the locals would drink, it's not dark fruits but it's strong

20:54

both. The locals would drink this cider

20:57

which was branded as like

20:58

ye Bristol cider

21:00

and I remember once I was really busy

21:02

and the locals, there's all their gin, they're like ah we

21:04

only drink the proper stuff, we won't touch that fatches and

21:07

it was really busy and my manager was like go down and

21:10

change the cake, went downstairs and

21:12

I was like there's all I could see was strong both. I

21:16

was like I ran back up and I was

21:18

like where's the ye olde Bristol cider and

21:21

he's like strong both. That's

21:24

the echo changes but all the locals swore

21:26

by it. The first door was a massive thing or cider. They

21:28

were all just drinking strong both. Branding. So

21:31

maybe if the dark fruits was branded and the lovely

21:34

Vinto drink or something, we would be

21:39

alright with it. That's

21:42

great. I love stories like that. That's

21:44

so good because everything is strong

21:46

both. I mean wicked. Have you

21:48

told me

21:48

that that wasn't just a case of that

21:50

one cider but all ciders, every

21:53

single cider was just strong both. I wouldn't

21:55

be that much of a conspiracy. I mean

21:58

oh yeah. Yeah that's really good.

21:59

That's great, that is lovely.

22:02

Okay, so strong boudard fruits,

22:04

awful for the rest of your life just

22:07

to suck on that for the rest of your days and what

22:09

is going to be your food choice?

22:10

I've got a massive thing again, I hate really

22:12

stinky

22:13

food

22:14

and specifically tuna

22:17

and sweet corn.

22:18

I know a lot of

22:20

people like it, you're probably into it aren't

22:22

you? Are you into tuna on its own?

22:25

No, not at all. I'm not into tuna. I'm going

22:27

to take you to look at it with the sweet

22:29

corn in. It's when you're getting a jack of potato

22:31

and everyone's just like, well of course you're going to thumb

22:34

in loads of tuna and sweet corn. You're

22:36

like, I don't know. And just imagine that's all

22:38

that there is to eat.

22:40

Especially when it's hot, I've been

22:42

on so many mega buses with Connor in our band.

22:45

He loves tuna, sweet corn, melts and stuff. I

22:47

remember we really hung over on a mega bus from

22:50

Bristol to London

22:51

when we used to live there.

22:53

He bought the sandwich and

22:55

I was really hung up, I was like Connor please you cannot

22:58

eat that. He's like fine, I'll do a

23:00

few. I

23:00

won't eat it. Four hours into the trip, massive delay,

23:02

he's like well I've got to eat it. By

23:04

then it got really sticky

23:07

and sweaty. A bit

23:09

dark on the edge there. And

23:11

then he decided to eat it. It was a world stinkiest

23:13

sandwich. On the day's island,

23:16

if it's hot, it's definitely going to be that sort of thing

23:18

isn't it? Maybe you could learn

23:20

from lessons, the second you crash,

23:23

immediately eat all of the tuna

23:25

sweet corn sandwiches. Gorgeous

23:28

on them so that they don't go bad.

23:30

Yeah, although you just broke

23:32

up. That's just making a bad day even worse, isn't

23:34

it?

23:36

I'm with you. I

23:38

mean, I was absolutely fine with

23:41

tuna. I used to eat it loads but weirdly enough

23:43

when I had Covid, right, and

23:45

it changed my sense of I

23:47

lost my taste for ages. Three

23:50

weeks I couldn't taste anything. I don't know if either of you have

23:52

had it. And

23:54

then when I eventually got my taste

23:57

back, loads of things taste different.

24:00

Now, stuff like my daughter

24:02

eats tuna sandwich and it is the most vile

24:04

smell. Before I was fine with

24:07

it, but now it just smells

24:09

and tastes like bins. Yeah,

24:11

it smells like bin taste. That's

24:15

a line to Michael's perception of it. I

24:18

mean it smells like a

24:19

manky food

24:21

bin in a student hall, which has been taken out.

24:24

Exactly. Sometimes your taste

24:26

is switched like that. Because

24:28

actually, as you said, when I was younger, my

24:31

go-to sandwich, my packed lunch was teramisolata

24:34

sandwiches. Teramisolata is

24:36

like that Greek whipped fish egg. Oh wow.

24:39

It's not like... It's a fancy sandwich. No,

24:41

I know. I said it's like... I mean, caviar,

24:43

you're kind of like, not like that. It's like...

24:47

It's grim. It's like stinky,

24:49

stinky fish. Like, it's

24:53

cheap as chips, basically. And I would have... Are

24:55

you supposed to have it as like a dip or something? I

24:57

would have it as

24:58

sandwiches. And I would have it every

25:00

day for years. And I distinctly remember

25:02

literally just had biting in one at a time. And

25:05

it just tasted like the most rancid thing ever. And

25:08

nothing had changed. Like, my tastes had changed. You're scared?

25:11

I was coming up. It was great.

25:13

It's

25:17

the coming of a story for the ages. You

25:19

know what I mean? You're weird

25:21

fish patient. Yeah. Caviar

25:24

sandwiches. It was lovely. Really

25:29

down to earth those home counties. Yeah. That's

25:32

what I'd say. Okay, so are

25:34

we saying any stinky foods? Like, what

25:36

are you like with like... Well, I do want

25:38

like stinky cheeses and stuff like that. Are

25:41

you... I'm not big

25:43

into like blue cheese. I like... But I like like

25:45

stinky brie. Yeah. Stinky brie,

25:47

yeah. Stinky bit of brie, yeah. But not with

25:50

the blue variety. We

25:52

did a gig recently. We had

25:54

this long drive.

25:56

And our band made Lois Maids. Something

25:58

like 10.

25:59

egg mayo sandwiches. And

26:02

that was the same story. And the

26:05

thing is, is that everyone like, you know, just egg mayo is like absolutely

26:07

delicious, especially like especially made that

26:09

morning. Yeah. And we're just, you know, just in the car.

26:12

And it was like everything. Well, it

26:14

was all you kind of smell the egg mails and

26:16

in like, you know, in the bag, just kind of like in

26:18

the background. And then it was lunchtime, everyone

26:21

in an egg mayo once that was, I

26:23

was, I was the one driving as well. And I was

26:25

literally driving on the M4

26:28

like, I was like, stop

26:30

eating them, it's unsafe. Yeah,

26:35

I was gonna ask, like something I

26:37

should have asked you in dark fruits time is

26:39

like, obviously, you're taught if you're touring a lot,

26:41

or even if you're playing one off gigs, but you've got to travel,

26:44

like, what what's the situation like?

26:46

So one of you is driving, do you get do you indulge

26:49

in a few drinks afterwards? Are you stopping anywhere

26:51

for food? What what what usually happens? It depends

26:54

on the show, really. But usually

26:56

like a mad frantic

26:58

sprint. And we're all like, really don't

27:00

want to drive. Yeah, like shotgun on me, shotgun

27:03

on me. And then someone drives. Yeah,

27:06

it's usually after the show, because no one wants to like, not

27:09

really drink for the gig. Sometimes

27:12

it is a bit like you show up, you play and then you're, you

27:14

kind of just have to

27:15

pack it in and head home. But there's about

27:18

we kind of jump at the chance to,

27:21

you know, leave us stuff in the venue, basically,

27:23

and like go crash to someone's house and like, actually

27:25

enjoy the place where

27:28

afterwards.

27:29

That's lovely. I love that. Because sometimes

27:31

you hear and people like, no, we pack up immediately,

27:34

we get in the van and we want to be home by

27:36

half past 12. So I like that you do that.

27:38

That's that's brilliant. And what about like, in terms of

27:40

a rider? Are you getting like drinks

27:43

laid on any dark fruit sat back there?

27:45

It's typically it's typically

27:47

in the UK, especially it's the

27:50

band of six, you'll usually get maybe

27:52

a four pack of calling. Oh, if

27:54

you're lucky, an apple and half

27:57

a part in this half for him is

27:59

and

27:59

Ready, so it's crisps from little oh,

28:02

yeah, it's very but that is the

28:04

typical

28:06

Like little

28:07

pub in London. So

28:09

yeah, yeah, yeah, then if

28:11

you go to when we play in Europe It's free

28:13

course meal

28:14

like unlimited bar. We had a we played a gig in

28:17

Dunkirk the other day Well a few months ago.

28:19

Yeah, maybe a year ago Yeah,

28:22

I don't know any clothes and fun. But

28:24

yeah, they had we had a keg and like

28:26

a proper beer machine in our dressing room Oh,

28:29

yeah, for God. Oh, God. We have to

28:31

change it in we yeah What

28:34

you really the whole care? Yeah,

28:37

well, yeah, I think it's quite bad from UK bones

28:40

gonna play in Europe So just we just I

28:42

mean there's obviously a bit more of a drinking culture in us

28:45

and our side of things But there is also you just

28:47

you're never in a situation where there's like a free bar

28:49

So you just don't even know what to do with yourself. You're

28:52

so excited Do

28:57

you have to limit the amount that you drink is there

28:59

like a cap before you go on or

29:01

do you know yourself? What how do you

29:03

play? I think we've got better over the years I

29:05

mean that I've done about you and I was when we were especially when

29:07

we were like 17 or something I

29:11

used to play this venue a lot That

29:13

if you sold a certain number of tickets you would

29:15

get quite

29:16

a few crates of beer basically

29:18

for the band Which in register

29:21

it was like a big scam because actually you had to give the baby

29:23

something like 150 pounds

29:25

and they would buy you like to create a

29:27

beer By

29:30

the time it was amazing. Yeah.

29:33

Yeah. Yeah, so I think those those

29:35

those are definitely like the more debaucherous Yeah,

29:39

I think Over the years

29:41

are sort of like our south's got a bit more complicated

29:44

We used to be quite like these just straight up guitars

29:46

and bass and you can sort of get away with

29:48

being a bit looser But now we've got like

29:50

three synthesizers on stage those are percussion.

29:52

There's a lot more going on So it's

29:54

not really compatible with

29:56

being sloshed. Yeah, you

29:58

don't want to fall about the stage trying to set that

30:00

shit up. Yeah. Or take it

30:02

down. No, no. Yeah. Yeah.

30:06

Yeah. But I guess you feel a buzz.

30:09

Like, no matter if you like, whenever

30:11

I've done anything like that, you have a couple drinks before,

30:13

but then you have the adrenaline of playing and that kind

30:15

of cancels it out for a little bit afterwards,

30:17

maybe. Yeah. I can

30:19

definitely remember those times where like

30:22

you're a little bit,

30:23

you know, you are a bit better. And then when you get into

30:25

it, you do get really into and you you're kind of like this tunnel vision

30:27

of like energy.

30:29

And then after you, you're like packing down, you're like,

30:31

oh, yeah, I'm really drunk. Like

30:35

you're like trying to tie up a cable

30:37

or something. That's

30:40

good. Okay. So

30:45

we're going to go strong with dark fruit

30:47

and stinky foods. Yeah. I

30:50

think. I've been chewing on. Chewing.

30:53

You're not going to do well in a desert. No, you're not going

30:55

to do anything. You're

30:57

going to have to. You're going to have to. Probably

31:01

one of the only possible. Okay. Thank

31:04

you, guys. Now, fortunately, you won't be

31:06

without entertainment on the island. The plane's entertainment

31:08

system continues to work. But just your

31:10

luck. It only has two working settings. And

31:12

so for you this week, it's going to be two

31:15

songs. You've got one song on one channel, one

31:17

on the other. What are they and why are they so

31:19

bad? I think what's going to be a

31:21

first. Yeah. I'm going to say

31:23

one thing about this, it's very easy to jump to

31:25

kind of

31:26

mundane pop songs or whatever.

31:28

You're going to hear all the time. But this

31:31

one I think actually gets

31:33

a lot of acclaim. And it's just

31:35

rubbed me the wrong way the whole time. Which

31:38

is Dreams by Fleawood Mac.

31:41

Because I love

31:43

rumours. I'm

31:45

obsessed about Alden.

31:47

I just think that that song,

31:49

for one, gets overplayed

31:52

a lot. Like that's the only song really from the album that

31:54

will come on people's playlists and stuff.

31:57

You end up hearing a lot in that way when the rest of the

31:59

album is all over.

31:59

also like really really good.

32:03

And also I just don't think it's like Stevie Nicks' best song

32:05

as well, you know what I mean? So I just say

32:08

nothing about it. You

32:10

just get a lot of resistance, you know, with that song.

32:12

I don't know if it like warrants

32:15

it. I can really like

32:17

Fleetwood Mac at all. So you

32:19

don't even like the rest of the album? No, not really. I

32:22

also associate that song in particular with being

32:25

at like four in the morning at afters.

32:28

And it's my mate from uni who

32:30

I live with still. Denzel like loves

32:32

Fleetwood Mac. So it's this constant repeat.

32:35

I associate with it like watching the sun

32:37

come up like wow

32:40

this is very sad. This

32:42

is time to go home. Yeah yeah yeah. Signifier

32:45

of it's gone too far. Yeah that's how yeah

32:47

what I associate with. Yeah

32:50

I think it's just like it's someone's

32:52

like oh let's put on something that's a bit like soulful

32:55

or bluesy or something and then they put down

32:58

you're like oh. Oh gosh.

33:00

I just remember being at university

33:02

similarly and I swear to god I

33:04

couldn't move for rumours.

33:07

It was just like every person's uni

33:09

house I went to everyone had a copy

33:11

of rumours. Everyone was like we're so

33:13

cool we've got record player what have you got rumours.

33:16

And it was just like on all the time and it

33:18

was just like you'd go around someone's house and it's like oh I just

33:20

picked up a wicked record have you heard this. I was like it's

33:22

because of fucking yesterday

33:25

it's everywhere. I do

33:27

get it but it is good but

33:29

I agree overplayed to death.

33:32

Yeah and I think just the vibe

33:34

of it I think like it doesn't repetition

33:36

of it makes it really just

33:39

worm into your ears. Yeah. In

33:41

a bad way. You mean the album or there's like Fleetwood

33:44

Mac. Yeah I don't know why

33:46

I didn't. I just like very little music.

33:49

I think I know I like Fleetwood Mac a lot but

33:51

there are times where they brush up like quite

33:53

close to like that kind of like Eagles sounds

33:56

just like you know like very easy

33:59

listening seven agencies, kind of

34:01

American, West Country, soul

34:04

music kind of stuff. Like

34:06

big band stuff. And I don't know. And

34:08

those times where it just doesn't sound unique anymore.

34:11

It just feels like, like kind of like you say, like

34:13

everyone's go to

34:15

genre almost to like feel a

34:17

bit like kind of classy or a bit like

34:19

chill. And I just don't

34:21

I don't know. I

34:23

actually like Room is a lot, but I think the rest

34:26

of the songs on it are way better and

34:28

more interesting. I agree that

34:30

it's my least favorite of the songs.

34:33

OK, there we go. I

34:37

feel like as well, it's like

34:39

people that I know that like generally

34:42

they like music maybe but don't

34:44

really have any particular favorite bands. Maybe

34:47

they never regularly go to gigs. They

34:49

always seem to say, oh yeah, like Fleetwood

34:51

Mac. Do you know what I mean? It's just like it's just

34:53

a it's just a really easy go to. If

34:56

you like, I want to sound like I like

34:58

bands, but really it's just rumors.

35:01

Yeah, it's like it's like the go

35:03

to 70s album. Yeah,

35:06

yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, I can get behind

35:08

this. And what's going to be the second song? Yeah,

35:10

I actually like this song, but I can

35:13

imagine listening to it on repeat. It's

35:15

DJ Alligator, the whistle song. What?

35:20

I mean, if you haven't had the chance

35:22

to educate yourself on that one. I recently

35:26

my family gave loves

35:28

DJ Alligator ironically,

35:31

and it was recently been listening to DJ Alligator. He

35:33

just went to see him at Skaarper like a few months

35:35

ago. And it's like

35:38

it's terrible, but it's sort of amazing.

35:40

It's yeah, he's so exaggerate.

35:43

Such an exaggerated character that it

35:47

is amazing. But

35:49

it's one dimensional to say the least.

35:52

I don't think I know this song. I don't think

35:54

I know it. It was it

35:56

was in like I think it did quite well in the church.

35:59

2000 I'd never heard of it before

36:02

but it is quite a famous song. So if

36:04

once you hear it, you'll you'll know why Okay,

36:08

okay. It's like constant whistle like

36:10

you know like a sports whistle like

36:15

Yeah He's

36:18

like

36:18

what's what's his story he's like

36:21

He's like half Iranian half Swedish. He

36:24

doesn't it's my way. He does like some sort of traditional

36:27

Iranian songs Was a very

36:29

different like I sound like

36:31

nice and then some like never colors and then the

36:33

other side of him is like full-on

36:36

Hypersexual Right,

36:39

it's very odd. Yeah Okay,

36:43

I'm not too intrigued to do a bit of digging off this

36:45

and have a little look at detail I'm sure you watch the

36:47

music videos because that was what

36:50

really sets it apart Maybe if really

36:52

Spain had the also had the video on

36:55

You could have that as your film choice. Yeah I

36:59

get two and a half in a film catalog

37:02

Log of DJ alligator music video.

37:05

Yeah, that's great. Okay. I'm gonna check that out anything

37:07

repetitive like that anything like with

37:11

Like once that comes back around

37:13

is like swapping between that and dreams

37:15

that is just pain. I feel like Okay,

37:18

I'm sorry that I've strong armed you into doing two

37:20

songs just because you're a band how basic of me We

37:24

had we didn't have a film to be fair no,

37:26

okay great I could come up I could come up one

37:28

but like, you know enough knows I

37:31

would only one No, it's fun. I think we're pretty

37:33

like safe with our films to be honest. Yeah, unfortunately

37:36

for you. You've got DJ alligator ancology

37:38

of music Enjoy

37:44

Thank you very much boys. I'm finally the island

37:46

is overrun by the biggest dick of all the animals

37:49

Animal is it and why this is

37:51

another this is quite like another personal

37:54

one. It comes from a place always

37:56

Love it. Go general category aggressive

37:58

geese

38:00

Yes, okay. I really

38:02

dislike geese as

38:06

an animal. I think they're weirdly

38:08

aggressive for like what other birds

38:10

are like that? They're territorial aren't they? They're very territorial.

38:13

And particularly comes from

38:15

I once looked after someone's goose. What

38:18

do you mean? They went on holiday and they

38:21

were like, is it alright if you look after my goose? And

38:24

it was called Waldo. And it

38:27

was just like, it's like fuson

38:29

steroids. It was like, it probably had

38:32

fists. It

38:34

was doing like arm curls

38:36

or whatever in the gun. If you saw

38:38

that goose in the pub, you wouldn't like look

38:40

at it too long. Yeah. Yeah. So I

38:42

was looking after this goose and it was very icy underfoot. And I

38:45

remember my mum, this is

38:47

when I was like, this is when I was a kid, basically,

38:49

my mum was there. And she was like,

38:52

you just need I was terrified of the goose. My mum was

38:54

like, you just need to show it who's boss. So I ran at

38:57

the goose slipped over on the ice right

38:59

onto my ass. And the goose went straight

39:01

for my groin. No. And

39:05

then but then my mum came out like a superhero

39:07

out of nowhere and just grabbed the goose by the neck.

39:10

No. That's dinner. Yeah.

39:14

So yeah, I think scarred

39:16

from that memory and

39:19

cancelled the goose. You might have any goose

39:21

on a desert island maybe anyway. I don't

39:23

know. Yeah, they migrate. Yeah.

39:26

I don't know. I can't make

39:28

long distances. Oh, there's there's a there's

39:30

like a little I guess,

39:33

I don't know if you call it. It's a it is a river,

39:35

but it's kind of it doesn't

39:37

stop. But it's like becomes a little mini

39:40

little lake for a bit and then carries on. And

39:42

there's loads of geese near me. And I

39:45

as an adult man, I'm on

39:47

edge as I walk past them. You

39:50

know, when

39:52

there's like, you know, a good few, you know, okay,

39:56

you cross the other side of the street. Yeah,

39:58

any amount I think is too many. They

40:00

were like anti-goose. Yeah.

40:04

They were all like, gooseshit just smells so bad.

40:06

Yeah. Oh my god, yeah.

40:08

I lived in York for a bit,

40:11

and they have loads

40:13

of geese there. And

40:16

they kind of wander around the campus a lot, because there's

40:18

all these lakes and stuff. But they would also wander

40:20

into town, so I do remember leaving

40:23

clubs at like 4 in the morning and

40:26

going onto like a high street, which is obviously what I

40:28

deserted, and it's just full of geese. Oh,

40:30

that's horrible. You're a nightmare,

40:32

surely. Yeah. You're

40:34

off your head and you're battling geese on the way home.

40:37

Not ideal. You're just looking for a kebab. And

40:40

imagine a walking past with a kebab,

40:42

and they're just trying to get it off you. Also,

40:44

so you boys

40:46

have done incredibly well. Geese is going to

40:49

be your animal choice. Thank you so much for

40:51

going through your choices. An excellent

40:53

and hellish desert island. Much

40:55

appreciated. So

40:58

it's a very exciting time for you, I feel

41:00

like. So you've just

41:02

announced the debut album, and

41:05

it's going to come out next May, you said? Yeah,

41:08

May 3. OK, and what's the buildup

41:10

to that from announcing the album? What happens

41:12

between now and then?

41:14

So we announced the album,

41:17

and alongside that, we

41:19

also announced a tour that we're doing

41:21

in May. So that is

41:24

we're going to be basically taking the

41:26

album the rose basically right after.

41:28

Take it out. Yeah,

41:31

we just released a single, the second

41:33

single off the album, Wild Guess.

41:36

So that came out yesterday.

41:37

And then I think we got a few more singles

41:39

in the lead up.

41:41

The album. Yeah, we've got stuff

41:43

very much in the pipeline

41:45

in between now and the album

41:47

coming out. So we're going to be we're very happy

41:49

to be very busy. There'll

41:52

be lots of chances for people to see

41:55

what we've been up to.

41:57

Yeah, but yeah, I think we're very excited

41:59

about.

41:59

putting the album out and

42:02

getting back on the road in earnest.

42:06

Well I'm sure you've been writing stuff for a long time

42:08

but you said it's been a year in the making. So

42:11

is that songs that you've built up over time as a

42:13

band and then you kind of like was like right

42:15

this is album time now

42:17

we're gonna be doing writing and recording. How does it work? Yeah

42:21

well I think we had sort

42:23

of half the songs sort

42:24

of came in quick succession and

42:26

it was like beyond an EP and it was like well this

42:28

is looking like an album and

42:31

the sound of it was all coming together a lot more like electronic

42:33

and dancey and then some of the songs

42:36

like they're sort of older songs that like

42:38

weren't didn't really fit our old vibe like a more

42:40

it was a more punky thing

42:42

but now sort of now we've sort of all shifted

42:44

a bit more poppy a bit more like indie

42:46

they've sort of like found a new home on the album

42:49

so it's sort of pricing together like

42:51

a patchwork of old and new songs.

42:54

Yeah it was it was there was definitely

42:57

a time of like trying to work out what we

42:59

wanted to do with it and once we

43:01

kind of came to an agreement then

43:04

it was it was like this nice challenge

43:06

to re-examine a lot

43:08

of the stuff that we'd previously just

43:10

you know just ignored and

43:13

yeah bringing it back into focus and reworking

43:15

it and I think we're really happy

43:18

with how everything has turned

43:20

out to be and kind of

43:22

very interested to see what people will think when they hear

43:24

it. Yeah that's cool and when you say

43:27

you come to an agreement is it is it easy for

43:29

you as a group, it's six of you right so is it

43:32

easy for like you as a group to like

43:34

work towards the goal or is there like

43:37

push and pull in different directions how's it how's

43:40

it work? I think it's

43:42

quite difficult. I

43:45

think we operate the same way most of like

43:47

most creative projects that it's started which is like

43:49

essentially you just thicker endlessly and

43:52

then

43:52

you somehow all come to some agreement

43:56

and I know that that might not be like the most efficient way of

43:58

doing things but it's it's working. working for us. Yeah,

44:01

we got there in the end. Yeah. So, yeah.

44:04

Well, that's cool. No, and do you write

44:06

parts? I'm asking loads of questions

44:08

because I'm interested. Do you write the parts

44:10

separately and bring them together or are you in the room

44:13

and try and work it out? Like how does it

44:15

work?

44:16

It varies in between songs, really.

44:18

I mean, we did this album

44:20

over quite a long period of time, so there was a lot

44:22

of chances for us to

44:26

critically analyze every part essentially,

44:29

and all see how, you know, what we've all

44:31

worked. We worked,

44:33

I think we all worked over the songs, you

44:36

know, it didn't feel very, you

44:39

know, kind of, no one felt really limited to only

44:41

thinking about exactly what they would be playing. You

44:44

know, imagine the bigger picture a lot.

44:46

Yeah. And typically it would be like we start,

44:49

it's not like we sit in a practice room, it's been very

44:51

much more like production based. So

44:54

we come with demos and then like,

44:57

then we flesh out from there.

44:59

I'm more like sort of like making electronic

45:01

music, then like when I was sort

45:03

of quite rubbish, it's just getting in a practice room and making music

45:06

that way, which we used to do, but it does lend

45:08

itself more towards sort of

45:10

punk.

45:11

It's just how we were doing things

45:13

forever. So when we still do it, we just sound

45:16

the same as we used to.

45:18

So we tried to, you know, literally

45:20

uproot things to put ourselves

45:23

in a new headspace. And

45:25

so you said to me before we started recording that

45:28

you said, like recorded parts

45:30

DIY, did it yourself and then you

45:32

took it to someone to mix or do you have a producer

45:34

on board? How does that work?

45:36

So yeah, our

45:38

guitarist is, he's a producer,

45:40

like by trade, producer

45:42

engineer. So we would go into like the studio

45:45

in Hackney called No Teeny

45:47

Studios.

45:49

He would basically run the sessions and

45:51

we'd record everything there or even at home.

45:54

And then once everything was like

45:57

completely together in terms of like arrangement

45:59

and stuff.

45:59

but it would then go to a

46:01

guy called Andy Savers. No, he's

46:03

great. He's

46:04

mixed it, sort of elevated everything

46:07

to a

46:08

pristine quality. Yeah, he's been, I

46:10

guess like that seventh beetle in this

46:13

case. Oh, no. No way. Oh,

46:18

I feel a little trinity to you, because I'm from Hertfordshire.

46:21

It's one of the home counties, but you didn't form

46:24

in the home counties, right? Was it Bristol?

46:26

Is that right?

46:27

It depends. I mean, like the core

46:30

of the band did form in the home

46:32

counties. Oh, right. And

46:34

under a different name, and people have joined

46:36

and left over time. And then when

46:38

the band moved to uni,

46:40

then it was in Bristol, which

46:43

is, I guess where- That's where,

46:45

yeah, we actually, because we're in

46:47

a different band before, and then we, like

46:49

home counting started as a project when we were living in Bristol. So

46:53

that's sort of, that feels like the, it

46:56

was like the home of the project really.

46:59

Yeah. Now in London, we're

47:02

like nomadic sort of band. Yeah, I know. No,

47:05

I really can't wait to hear the

47:07

album in full, and I'm looking forward to seeing

47:09

you guys live at the next convenient

47:11

time. Thank you so much for joining

47:13

me, Will and Bill. Amazing, thanks so much for having us. Yeah,

47:16

thank you. Cheers, boys. Cheers.