Sarah Lawlor (host) speaks to Sophie Hutchinson, Director of Sustainability at ADP consulting.

Sophie is invested in delivering projects that are socially just, culturally rich and ecologically restorative, and in this conversation, she discusses the idea of wellbeing as the second wave of sustainability.  Sophie also shares her perspective on policy-making and the politics around climate change, and the environmental leaders that inspire her passion for the earth.

Design Conscious is a podcast exploring diversity and leadership in environmental sustainability in the built environment, supported by NAWIC.