Meena Khalili, Assistant Professor at the University of Louisville, joins Gary Rozanc to discuss the education of an I-Shaped versus a T-Shaped student. Meena goes in-depth on what skills actually constitute a T-Shaped students including where coding and UX/UI fit on the T-Shaped diagram. The discussion also covers startling statistics from the Department of Labor on the decline of Graphic Design jobs and the exponential growth of Interactive Design jobs. Finally, we end the conversation by discussion how design education can lead the industry, not follow it.