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I'd like you to imagine your dream life

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, See the

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version of you who has what

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you want to have , feels

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how you want to feel and

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is who you want to be . I'm

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Brittany Hoops , your hypnotherapist and manifestation

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coach , and this is the show where

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I'll teach you to master the full

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power of your mind to

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guide you on your journey towards

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destination

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manifestation .

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Alright . This is Destination

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Manifestation , a podcast

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about using the power of your mind

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to manifest your dream life

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. We have stories , lessons

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, exercises , guided visualizations

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and conversations designed

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to help you align with your goals

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, hosted by me , brittany

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Hoops . How are you guys doing

1:02

? Welcome welcome , I must

1:04

say , if you're already subscribed to the show

1:06

. Thank you so much . I feel

1:08

like you guys have been reaching out to me more on Instagram

1:11

recently and telling me about how you

1:13

enjoy the show , and

1:15

I want you to just . I really hope

1:17

that you view this show as having

1:19

your little manifesti-vesti in your pocket

1:21

or in your earbuds or wherever it might be

1:23

, and I'm just hanging out with you

1:25

, just helping you reach your goals , become

1:27

who you want to be , and so I'm so

1:30

thankful for those of you who are subscribed

1:32

and will continue to be . Today

1:35

, guys , I am so

1:37

excited . If

1:40

you know me or I'll even say

1:42

this , if you first discovered me through Big

1:44

Brother 24 a few summers ago whenever

1:46

that might have been you might

1:48

be a little surprised , if

1:50

not downright shocked , at

1:53

who I have here on the show today . Okay

1:55

, well , there's a few people I think you'd be more

1:57

surprised about , but it's someone who

1:59

I'm actually very proud to call

2:01

a real life friend , and that

2:03

is Turner from Big Brother 24

2:06

. That's right , we have Matt Turner

2:08

. You might know him as one of my fellow

2:11

Leftovers Alliance members . You

2:13

might know him as the person who put me on the block

2:15

every single time he was HOH . You

2:18

might know him or have discovered him

2:20

online through one of his amazing

2:23

furniture making or rug-tuffing videos

2:25

, as he is the creator of plant-based

2:28

furniture . So , regardless of

2:30

how you know him , or if you know him , if

2:32

you're a creative or if you're a business owner

2:34

wondering what is the kind of mindset

2:37

that it takes to be a real

2:39

successful professional doing what

2:41

you love in a creative field , you

2:43

are going to freaking love this conversation with Turner

2:45

and I just want you to kind of and

2:47

this is what I did as I re-listened

2:50

to the conversation and even as I was conducting

2:52

it or we were having it I wasn't

2:54

conducting it , we were having a conversation

2:56

is I kind of almost like

2:58

watched it from like a third-party perspective

3:01

, because it's just beautiful to see how his

3:03

mind works , because I don't know if he

3:05

realizes it . I don't think he does . Turner

3:07

hear me now , but he thinks

3:09

differently than a lot of people , at

3:12

least a lot of people that I work with clients , and

3:14

it's in such a beautiful way , like he

3:16

has this deep-seated belief

3:19

in himself , belief in his dreams , that

3:21

is just so beautiful to witness and

3:23

there's a lot that we can all learn from

3:25

just seeing that in action

3:27

. And so I want you to like that would be kind

3:29

of my recommendation on how to digest this

3:32

episode is just see the way

3:34

and how he thinks about things

3:36

. That comes pretty naturally to him

3:38

that we could all learn from as

3:41

we apply it to our own manifestations . Okay

3:43

, and we're going to freaking love what Turner has to share today

3:46

. Seriously , I'm not exaggerating

3:48

here . I think Turner might be one of the

3:50

most interesting people that I personally

3:52

know . Like we used to joke back in the Big Brother

3:54

House that you could literally talk about any

3:56

subject . I mean , you could be talking

3:58

about anything . You could freaking be talking about goats

4:00

, okay , and Turner would just like , out

4:03

of nowhere , just kind of be like he would like wake

4:05

up out of a stupor and he'd

4:07

just be like , oh yeah , that reminds me of

4:09

that time that I got caught in a monsoon on

4:11

the top of a mountain and a pack of goats chased

4:13

me for 14 miles through the mud , like

4:16

I don't know I'm making this up or maybe it is a story

4:18

, I don't know , but it's just like you look at him and you'd

4:20

be like what ? Like

4:23

seriously , this guy has lived more

4:25

in his life in 24 years

4:27

than most people do in an entire lifetime

4:29

. Okay , but you'll love this

4:31

episode if you want to sneak peak

4:33

, like I said before , into the mindset

4:36

of what it takes to be a professional creative

4:38

. Plus , I would say that we

4:40

dive into some never before shared stories

4:42

about our big brother days , which you might find interesting

4:44

if you're a fan of the show Turner

4:47

.

4:47

Brittany Imagine us .

4:52

I'm not going to say two years ago , because we didn't know each

4:54

other two years ago . But , let's say a year and a half

4:56

ago . Would we ever think this

4:59

would be happening right now ?

5:00

Yeah , if somehow secretly

5:02

, sid came down from the rafters like hey , just so you know , a

5:04

year and a half you guys are going to be besties . You're

5:06

going to be up in Brittany on TikTok live all the

5:09

time , I'd be like you must be nuts because there's

5:11

no chance . But like I'm literally

5:13

so excited to be here talking to you and

5:15

we've had so many good conversations Even

5:18

since . I feel like we really hit our breaking point as

5:20

close friends August when the

5:22

big brother premiere happened . We talked for hours and

5:25

then Megan and Stephen were like all right , are they going to wrap this up

5:27

anytime soon ?

5:28

Stephen's like you literally dragged me here and all you're doing

5:30

is talking to Turner here .

5:32

And so I mean ever since then . I feel like we've

5:34

made great strides and like I respect

5:36

you so much and I consider you such a good friend , so I'm really

5:38

happy to be here .

5:39

I feel exactly the same way and that makes

5:41

so freaking happy because

5:43

I don't know , I remember you know not

5:45

to like rehash old things , but I remember that was

5:47

one thing that I was kind

5:49

of bummed about it with getting outside

5:52

the house , like I knew we were did not see eye

5:54

to eye a lot , game wise , but

5:56

you know , and you and I talked about it , we don't need to go into it

5:58

. But like you know , I was kind of bummed , like

6:00

I was like , oh man , I could really see being

6:02

good friends with Turner outside this environment

6:05

, and then I was nervous about

6:07

that .

6:07

But then wouldn't , you know , it is like

6:09

that's what it ended up being , and so of course

6:11

, like if I could call Jasmine

6:14

a close friend of mine , then quite literally anything

6:16

is possible . And , like

6:18

I was just telling you , there's like there's

6:20

so many moments where in the moment , I was like

6:23

just I was honestly just so annoying

6:25

and like nihilistic about stuff . Like when we were making

6:27

shirts together I was like I would rather do anything than making

6:29

shirts with Brittany . But now I look like

6:31

I look back at that and I'm like I'm so glad we spent

6:33

that like quality time together , even if in the moment I

6:36

was just like raging about nothing , you

6:38

know you know , what's so funny is .

6:39

I think that is such a beautiful example

6:41

of us all living our own

6:43

realities right . And the Big Brother

6:45

experience is the best

6:48

thing about that because you just realize

6:50

, like , the story going on in my head is different

6:52

than the story that's going on in your head , and in

6:54

Big Brother all you have is to create

6:56

stories about what they must be thinking are

6:58

they lying to me this ? and that right . And so you

7:00

were like fuming over there . And my story

7:02

during that exact same thing was oh

7:05

, I've been so mean game

7:07

wise to Turner . I'm going to try

7:09

to like extend an olive branch and be nicer

7:11

.

7:11

No way I put you on the block every

7:13

single time I could . No

7:15

, you deserve to be me to me

7:17

, Even though you weren't . You were just playing your own

7:19

game and living in your own reality .

7:21

But it's so funny that was the story going on in my mind and you

7:23

had a completely different story going on in your mind

7:25

, and then it was just like we were not in the

7:27

same reality at all . You know ever .

7:29

Yeah , of course . So

7:32

now , like going

7:34

after the show , I think a big promoter

7:37

in like kind

7:39

of us getting close at first , was like my mom talks

7:41

so highly of you . Even it's so weird You're the only person

7:44

my mom ever talks about . She talks about you and

7:46

she talks about Taylor because there's I mean , this

7:48

is a side step I go everywhere when I start talking

7:50

, but like my mom's always like you know , taylor's

7:52

so mature . You could probably be like

7:54

that sometimes and I'm like , yes , mom , I get it . Taylor's

7:56

like the most mature person ever and even I

7:58

look up to Taylor in that sense . She's just like such

8:01

a good person . And then she's like and Brittany

8:03

, she really has this like whole manifestation thing . And my

8:05

mom also is like subscribed to

8:07

the same , like you know mindset

8:09

as you , and so she's always like you

8:11

need to go on that podcast . And I'm like

8:14

mom , okay . So I was on the phone with her

8:16

10 minutes ago . I was like mom , I'm doing it , I'm here

8:18

.

8:18

Can you tell her ? I'll shout out Turner's mom

8:20

huh .

8:20

Yes , teresa , teresa Gurley , we love you

8:22

. I love to hear that .

8:25

And I'm so excited just to talk and geek

8:28

out about all this stuff with you here today , because

8:30

I literally will say some of my most fun

8:33

conversations in the house , where

8:35

I felt like even though you didn't know this

8:37

and really not many people do it but where I felt most

8:39

my real self was

8:41

talking to you Like I don't know if you remember

8:44

that one day I think it's breakfast

8:46

we were sitting at the breakfast bar stools and

8:48

we were talking like I was just

8:50

so interested in hearing about , like your

8:52

high school , like art school experience

8:55

Do you remember us talking about that

8:57

.

8:58

I do because , like how much you reminded

9:00

me of my college photography teacher .

9:02

What that teacher right ? I heard that right

9:04

.

9:05

No I couldn't stand her , which , honestly , is like I

9:07

don't even . Maybe I didn't even know it , but like you

9:09

were set up in my mind before I even

9:11

realized it , like what my relationship

9:14

would be with you for a few months .

9:16

No , turner , I so think that

9:18

that is true , because there were

9:20

other people in the house and I like don't want to fully get into

9:22

it , but there are other people in the house that reminded

9:24

me of people and then

9:26

that can help and it can hurt

9:28

, right .

9:29

Of course , yeah .

9:30

And again like that , because again you're just creating stories

9:32

in your mind and so if I automatically

9:34

look like high school photography teacher

9:36

, we didn't like .

9:37

that's like almost like a

9:39

transparent film over understanding

9:42

me , you know , yeah , and

9:44

then , coincidentally , the only other person that reminded me of my like outside life

9:46

was Alyssa . Reminded me of Megan's

9:48

best friend , who I'm really close with , and then

9:50

, lo and behold , alyssa and I became besties

9:53

. So it's like it's so translate yeah

9:55

funny .

9:56

I want to talk to you because having those conversations

9:58

were so much fun . I want

10:00

to talk to you . You're an artist . You

10:02

make furniture , you tell drugs , you make content

10:05

, like honestly , anything

10:07

you touch becomes art in some sort of way

10:09

.

10:10

Thank you , thank you .

10:10

Talk to me about that process , like

10:13

kind of take us back to the beginning , and some people on Instagram

10:15

were wanting to hear about this , so I'm curious

10:17

to get into this . How did you first

10:20

discover your love for

10:22

artistic pursuits Like how did ? You know

10:24

, that's what you wanted to get into .

10:25

So , like I started making YouTube

10:27

videos , I must have been like , well , honestly

10:30

, before that I was doing theater camp , okay . That

10:32

honestly this is a core memory that I

10:34

didn't even know I had , literally . So I

10:36

would do every summer I would go to this theater camp

10:39

and I just literally loved it my

10:41

whole school year . I was like , oh my God , I'm so excited

10:43

to do theater camp , I can't believe we never even talked about this . Yeah , and

10:46

I would like love getting on stage in front of like the thousand people at the end of

10:48

the summer and put on this play , and I always

10:50

had so much fun , and so I

10:52

feel like you know that had like a little seed . And

10:55

then , a couple of years later , when I was

10:57

, yeah , like nine , I bought my first camera

10:59

and I started making goofy little YouTube

11:01

videos . Right , like nothing crazy . I

11:04

don't even know what I would have done at nine years old , but I had made

11:06

YouTube videos all the time .

11:07

You still have those videos .

11:09

No , that is something I wish I did , because then

11:11

I mean , when I hit middle

11:14

school people like found them and I wish I

11:16

didn't delete them . I was like , you know , private

11:18

was a thing , you could just make them private . But you

11:20

know how middle schoolers are . I was like , no , no one can

11:22

find my YouTube videos . And

11:25

so then I started making those videos

11:27

and then that like eventually translated into

11:29

you know , the video game Call of Duty , yeah

11:32

, yeah , yeah , okay , so I would

11:34

. I would like then take other people's Call

11:36

of Duty footage and edit it for them , because I

11:38

really enjoyed editing . And so then I would like

11:40

turn it around and be like , hey look , there's like

11:42

your name in all this . And it was again

11:44

, probably not like a totally developed product

11:46

, but then by the time I hit high school I was still

11:48

doing that and I also went to this vocational

11:51

school . I originally went for carpentry

11:53

, but once I which is super funny

11:55

, because now- look how that's coming full circle

11:57

, exactly . But then , when I explored

12:00

my week in carpentry , I actually

12:02

wasn't a fan at all , and so I

12:04

ended up getting into graphic design , which

12:07

, like I think at that moment was perfect for me

12:09

. That's where I met my best friends

12:11

in , like you know , graphic design . And so then turn

12:13

around after , oh , then

12:16

I went to film school after college right , so we're

12:18

still like on the same , similar trajectory and

12:21

then I guess I started backpacking . Asia just

12:23

did like my whole thing , became , like

12:26

you know , my own biggest fan , and , like I'm 10

12:28

years into making YouTube videos and I see

12:30

no success yet , in high school I made

12:32

one video every single day , but the turnaround

12:34

time was every day in high school and

12:37

, like I think , the max one had like a thousand views . Nothing

12:39

happened . But I think that's when I got

12:41

to like that's four years of perfecting

12:44

I mean , I'm not calling anything perfect , but

12:46

, like you know , just knowing what I'm doing

12:48

, right . And so , after that , film school

12:50

, then making films in Vietnam

12:52

, wherever it may be , and then I got back

12:55

, I got my film job everyone

12:57

used to know me for . And then

12:59

big brother , now I'm here . So that's

13:02

like a super sped up version of like my art

13:04

history , but yeah , wait

13:06

.

13:07

So back to you . Make a YouTube

13:09

video every day and

13:12

you're seeing like a thousand views . How

13:14

do you keep you know ? It's funny . We've actually had somebody

13:16

else on the show who's a productivity

13:18

coach who did a similar type thing . But

13:21

I want to hear your experience , like how do you stick

13:23

with something every day for how long did

13:25

you say that ?

13:25

you kept on going . It was about four years . Yeah

13:28

, wait , wait , no , no , yeah , four years

13:30

every day , yeah , and

13:33

so like I genuinely I don't know I was like graced

13:35

with this gift by my parents or something about like

13:37

my work ethic , but also , at the same time , I

13:39

didn't have a job in high school . I would not work . So

13:42

it's like it was a work ethic , but it wasn't because I wasn't getting

13:44

anything in return . I just loved making

13:47

videos so much and if I was going

13:49

to like give myself advice back then

13:51

, now I'm like maybe it would have been more helpful

13:53

to do like every other day and then focus

13:55

a little more on the quality . So like the turnaround

13:57

was a little bit better and one day I'd do this

13:59

and the other day I'd like make it better . But

14:02

, yeah , and a lot of them was

14:04

like simple commentaries . Other time I was editing

14:06

, it was all call of duty based . It wasn't like I was making a short

14:08

film every day , but I was making a call of duty video

14:10

because I loved gaming . I really thought

14:12

my trajectory in high school was I would be like one of those gamers

14:15

, right , yeah , so

14:17

it was fun , though I loved making those . I

14:19

would get my friends involved and we would make little , just

14:22

fun skits together .

14:23

How did you keep yourself motivated , though

14:25

? Like when you're maybe not necessarily seeing them

14:27

go like viral or go like huge

14:29

, like was there ever a voice

14:31

in the back of your mind is like , why are we doing

14:34

this every day ? Or like , what was the ? Was the purpose

14:36

just for the fun of it , or were you trying to get

14:38

some place with it ? How do you keep yourself motivated ?

14:40

I think it's like every single time

14:42

in my life I have this idea . I always

14:45

feel like , if I say it too early , like people will

14:47

, you know , laugh or say what they're going to say and I know

14:49

that's just how people are . But I'm like in the back

14:51

of my mind , I'm like , just wait till they see , just wait

14:53

till they see , bro , because

14:55

, like if I was in , you know , high school

14:57

making these videos and I told my younger

14:59

self as a gap , but you're going to have hundreds of thousands

15:02

of followers or different platforms on your older

15:04

, and I would be like , yeah

15:06

, I'd be like , yeah in the back of my mind , wait till they

15:08

see , bro , because that's going to be what it is .

15:10

So they're seeing now .

15:11

Yeah , exactly Like when

15:13

bro , sometimes I think of myself

15:16

as like delusional , because when , like

15:18

I would go through a breakup in high school , right

15:20

, um , someone to break up with me I'm like , yeah , it

15:22

sucks for them , bro , because until

15:24

they see like like any

15:26

like negative , I would just like put

15:29

like I'd put the negative emotion on to them

15:31

and just sense of like , oh , they're lost .

15:33

You know , I'm yeah true , I mean , that is so

15:36

true . I mean , if they're going to go and judge you about

15:38

things like that , is completely on them

15:40

.

15:40

Like yeah , exactly .

15:41

When we start taking ownership of what other

15:43

people are thinking , that's when we

15:45

get all topsy turvy , but the fact that , like you

15:47

, kept the ownership exactly where it's supposed to be

15:49

, which is like on them and you just kept

15:51

doing your own thing , what you know that

15:54

kept you going , Whereas a lot of people , when

15:56

they take the ownership , they're the one who stops

15:58

. You know they don't do the . Youtube video every

16:00

day , or whatnot .

16:02

Yeah , like yesterday I was . So

16:04

I make these like furniture videos , right . And so

16:06

yesterday I was in IKEA filming and

16:08

I was like I was literally internalizing this

16:10

. I was like , if I was , I feel like

16:12

a lot of younger people , when they go out to film in public , like no one

16:14

cares what you're doing , like if I would never

16:16

see someone filming in public and be like , oh my God , why are

16:18

they filming ? Like who would ever think that ? But

16:20

a lot of people in turn are nervous to film in public

16:22

, which I totally understand . But it's like , hey

16:25

, I'm doing my thing like no one cares . Yeah , why

16:27

would anybody think negatively of me

16:29

filming in Ikea ? And so , um

16:31

, and some of the friends with I was like I can tell

16:33

they like walked a hundred feet that way and watched

16:35

from a distance . Really I don't know this guy , but

16:38

I was like , yeah , I got to be my own biggest fan

16:40

24 seven .

16:41

Oh , I love that , because when you are notice

16:44

, when you are your biggest fan , you don't give up , you

16:46

keep going , and then things amount from that

16:48

and you're doing what you love to do , you know

16:50

like yeah but if you , if you , if you took in

16:53

that internal chatter , it would stop you , and what

16:55

a shame it would be for you and for all of us

16:57

who get to benefit from Watching you

16:59

create these awesome things .

17:00

Yeah , exactly like . I don't know if I learned

17:03

this when I was in big brother

17:05

, but you know that , like upstairs , dr

17:07

, where shoot , this woman would just like consistently

17:09

, anytime you had a bad time , like give you

17:11

like words of wisdom in , and

17:13

like by the handful . And one time she said

17:15

I wrote this down For it cuz I was like I know that I'm

17:17

gonna think about this in our . So

17:19

she said you're , she said this word for word Just

17:21

busted out , she goes your mindset concerned , heaven into

17:24

hell or hell into heaven . And I was like that is literally

17:26

Exactly true , like you

17:28

can be , like , for example , I'm living

17:30

in a van at 20 , right , I was

17:32

having a ton of fun , I loved it , I . But like

17:34

anybody , like I could see how someone be like

17:36

oh yeah , I live in a van , I'm in Colorado , it's

17:38

negative six and I don't have heat . That could

17:40

also be the hell like . I totally

17:43

get that . So it really is all about mindset

17:45

.

17:46

Isn't that so interesting . You can turn heaven

17:48

into hell or hell into heaven . Yeah , that

17:50

is so true and that's why I love about it , because it

17:52

can be the exact same circumstance , like

17:54

what you said , like living in a van in Colorado

17:56

, negative six . Yeah one person could

17:58

be having an amazing time , the other person

18:01

feeling woe is me , sorry for myself

18:03

, or whatever . Well , however , they must be feeling

18:05

and it's exact same van , and it's yeah

18:07

, exactly exact same place

18:09

. So talk about this Turner . So it sounds

18:11

like it was a pretty fluid process , from

18:14

nine years old creating those

18:16

initial YouTube videos to like now

18:18

You're a professional creator , artist

18:20

, maker I mean , what do you even call yourself

18:22

like ?

18:22

you do it ? Oh , I . So I

18:25

always struggle to find like a label for myself . So

18:27

it's not like I don't want to say influencer

18:29

, because when I was younger I would have like died to

18:31

be like , yeah , I'm an influencer , right , but um

18:33

, yeah , exactly . And

18:36

so I started like owning . I

18:38

started owning that label because I caught myself for a while

18:40

being like , yeah , I'm like an influencer , but , like

18:42

you know , not like that type of influencer . But

18:44

it's like you don't need to like preface it like that's your job , be

18:46

proud of it . So , yeah , I just call myself an influencer

18:49

, like it is what it is .

18:50

You're an influencer , and that makes so much sense because you do

18:52

create content . And what you're also

18:54

creating that content about ? Well , you create content about a lot of

18:56

different things , but you're building this furniture

18:58

. Now You're doing the rugs . Did did

19:01

little Turner always know that he grew

19:03

up to become , in , you know

19:05

, an influencer and an artist , like in the

19:07

fact that you created these things . Like

19:09

, what did you think you were gonna be when you grow up

19:11

?

19:11

and now , compared to who you are now so

19:13

when I was a real small kid

19:15

, like a Seven-ish , I

19:17

would always just say , artists , I love drawing

19:20

, but my drawing skills weren't really good . I would

19:22

just , you know , scribbling on paper , calling into drawing . But

19:24

then you know , high school , I'm I'm

19:26

a gamer , bro , that's my thing

19:28

. I am playing video games to join phase clan

19:31

, if you ever heard of that . And then , oh

19:33

yeah , it's just like a professional

19:35

call duty team . That was my goal . And

19:37

then once I found like the avenue

19:40

of editing , I was like , oh wait , now I'm in the artistic

19:42

side of what other people are like really playing

19:44

the game . And then so I attribute

19:46

a lot of that . Also , when I Hit high school , I met this

19:48

kid who's in a lot of my stories . His name is David

19:51

Kratz . I talk about him all the time online .

19:52

I talked about him in the big brother house .

19:54

Yeah . And so when I got

19:56

to high school and got to graphics , where he was also , he

19:59

was also pursuing YouTube at the time , so

20:01

we can make YouTube videos together . And then

20:03

, like we would bounce off each other , like , hey , how

20:05

about you know , when we're 14

20:07

, I'm like , hey , my mom will drive you to your house

20:09

and we'll make YouTube video . Maybe next week your mom

20:12

can drive you to my house . But then , you

20:14

know , once we got cars , we became 16 . We would do that

20:16

every day . He was a part of like the YouTube

20:18

videos and now he coincidentally he

20:20

he was over last night he's visiting from Vegas

20:22

, but like I think that relationship

20:24

really helped craft me

20:26

and so like , Is it your

20:28

have collaborators like that , do you think for

20:31

yeah ? I think so . I think

20:33

like , at the end of the day , I would have

20:35

been doing the same thing , but it helped a lot

20:37

, like you know , having a group of friends that was

20:39

equally as interested in . Like

20:41

you know , it's like joining a theater

20:44

group as opposed to just acting yourself , like you

20:46

would probably do the same thing , but it's really

20:48

good to have that . Like you know , bouncing

20:50

one on one Energy just to play , that's

20:52

a better way to build

20:54

upon .

20:55

I mean , who wants to do monologues all day long like you

20:57

need , yeah , right , like you

20:59

need to be working with other people and yeah

21:02

, the , the , the energy that's there . I totally

21:04

get that . So talk

21:06

to me about , like , your

21:08

creative process . So like

21:10

you're creating your . You're making

21:13

furniture , your tufting rugs You're you're creating

21:15

all these amazing things . What's that like

21:17

for you ? Yeah

21:20

start a new project or what's kind of the

21:22

, the flow that we don't see in

21:24

the reals you know .

21:27

So my well , so my next project there's like that

21:29

beam where my finger . Oh yeah this

21:32

is impossible to like navigate where my hand is . But

21:34

I have two beams like right there , and

21:36

so I'm gonna make a huge bookshelf . Great

21:38

that I've never made a bookshelf . I don't know how I'm gonna do that

21:40

, but that's the same thing . When I start anything like

21:42

, there's that concrete side table

21:44

. This is a hard game I'm not gonna master

21:47

, but this table right .

21:49

Oh yeah , that you made with the balloons right , yeah To

21:52

that real guys , in case you .

21:54

He made this awesome table out of concrete

21:56

with these balloons .

21:57

I mean , it's so cool , it's like this bulbous looking

21:59

like really your favorite word , bulbous

22:02

.

22:03

No , I think it's your least I . But

22:07

like , yeah , I never know , going into

22:09

it , what it's gonna become which , almost feeling

22:11

, makes the content . Because

22:13

in a story , right , you want like ups

22:16

and downs . I mean

22:18

almost similar to like . I only reference

22:20

this a lot because where we met which I think is a huge part of our

22:22

foundation , like yeah , you know our big brother season , if

22:24

you were watching like as

22:27

a , as a viewer , there's so many ups and downs , which is what made

22:29

it entertaining . It's not just downs that's

22:31

boring , it's not just ups , that's also boring . So many

22:33

ups and downs whether you're a fan of

22:36

mine , taylor's yours that's what makes

22:38

it entertaining . So in my content

22:40

, when there's like , oh my god , I don't know how I'm gonna

22:42

do this , I don't know how I'm gonna do that Like , that's

22:44

what I think makes a story as opposed

22:46

to we . You know , when you open your phone , everything

22:49

looks perfect anyway , like every damn

22:51

Instagrammer is making everything look perfect

22:53

. I almost feel like the pitfalls of my

22:56

projects is what makes the bulk of the

22:58

of the segment .

22:59

So that's so interesting because I was gonna ask you here . You're

23:01

like I'm gonna make this this bookcase . I've

23:04

never done this before and yet you decide

23:06

to continue doing it , whereas I know so many other people

23:08

be like I've never done that , I can't do

23:10

that . Yeah , you're basically saying , like it's

23:13

the fact that there could be pitfalls

23:15

here . Yeah , exactly interesting

23:17

to pursue .

23:18

Yeah , like that damn balloon video . I

23:20

mean every video it takes a month

23:23

to make . It's like so not time

23:25

effective , how I make content . I only upload

23:27

twice a month cuz I literally Cannot

23:30

make a video every day . I look at creators that make a video every

23:32

day . I'm like that is incredible , I wish

23:34

I could be that , but like I

23:36

just literally could never , and so I'm

23:38

taking a month to make the video . But I almost feel like it

23:40

shows , like if you watch one of my videos , it looks

23:42

like a damn production and like so

23:45

maybe some like in all

23:47

ways online I've learned like teach

23:49

myself you're not gaining , you are losing

23:51

, right , and maybe that's a weird way to look at it but say

23:54

it's been three weeks , right , and I have an upload , a

23:56

video , I'll see followers drop

23:58

, because that's just what it is if you're not gaining , you're losing . And

24:01

so then I need to like Be like alright

24:03

, don't rush this project , just lose

24:05

some followers for a week , it's gonna pay

24:07

off . You're gonna post it another big boost . You

24:09

lose some another big boost . That's like how social

24:11

media works . So I just need to keep telling myself Don't

24:14

rush something , it's all gonna be worth it

24:16

in the end and thus far , like my faith in that

24:18

, that has worked out great , and so I . Maybe

24:21

I should upload more , but I'm trying to not

24:23

rush anything .

24:25

I love that because I feel like we live in a society

24:27

right now , especially because social media where

24:29

it's like you got all these people that are creating

24:31

these like little b-roll of them on the beach

24:33

and a . Text overlay and then it's just been

24:36

now like multiple times a day and yet

24:38

you're taking a completely different process

24:40

here , being like I'm gonna invest like a month

24:42

into this . How

24:45

does that feel when you're like , okay

24:47

, you're watching the loss , like what's

24:49

going through your mind , when you're pursuing Creating

24:51

things that take time ? I feel

24:53

people and I hear this from my clients and I hear this from people

24:56

who listen to the show like they're scared

24:58

to do things that take Time . Because what

25:00

if they put all this time into it and it completely

25:02

flops , and then they've lost

25:05

Quote-unquote time ? How do you

25:07

deal ? Do those fears ever come up ? And , if

25:09

so , or some version of them ? How do you

25:11

deal with that thought ?

25:13

Of course . So , like I think of people I like watching

25:15

the most , that would be like Casey Neistat

25:17

right , he goes six months without uploading sometimes

25:20

, but I'm always there for the next

25:22

video . I'm like , yeah , he had this podcast

25:24

called couples therapy and it stopped in 2019

25:26

, but if he uploaded again with that podcast

25:28

, I yeah

25:30

exactly , and so it's just

25:32

like that . I'm like all right , if the audience

25:34

that is really there to enjoy

25:37

me and likes what I do , I think they'll wait . Granted

25:39

, I post stories , like people still get to Engage

25:42

with my face and like remember what I'm

25:44

doing and I and I update people , but I

25:46

just it literally is faith . I'm not religious

25:48

at all , but I do have faith in myself

25:51

and so that I will , I'll

25:53

make the extra effort to Bet

25:55

on myself every time and I remember I , so

25:57

I play fortnight every single day . Once

26:00

I'm done work , it's like 9 30

26:02

pm . Me and my best friends , we play fortnight

26:04

. And so I remember I was on for now , my friends

26:07

, and it was the day before I was uploading that stone

26:09

video . It was like I don't want to be dramatic

26:11

, but if this video doesn't do well and I just

26:13

spent a month and a half and all my resources on it I'm

26:15

going to go insane . And then I was like

26:18

but that's what it is , that's the game I'm playing

26:20

, and so every time for the past

26:22

eight months it's paid off . So at

26:24

some point I need to be like all right , I'm eight months

26:27

deep into it pays off every time . I just

26:29

need to let friggin God take the wheel

26:31

at this point .

26:32

Yeah , yeah . But you know , and you've built

26:34

that up , I mean it's . I mean it's kind of cliche

26:36

, but it's like big risk , big reward . Literally

26:39

exactly because I feel like so many people

26:41

are unwilling to take the big risk and like invest

26:43

the time and invest the resources , all those things

26:46

, and so they just take these little mini

26:48

risks , but they're just seeing the mini reward

26:51

and that doesn't feel good either . So it's

26:53

like you really have to and I feel like I've learned

26:55

that from you the most like even just like

26:57

side personal conversations We've been having is

26:59

you're changing my mindset around that , where it's

27:01

like okay , I've done the little risk thing

27:03

for a year now and that's like you

27:05

know , it pays off in little ways Little

27:08

ways . Yeah , I don't want little ways , I'd

27:10

rather go all in on something , and just seeing

27:12

you be an example of that is a good reminder

27:14

in this day and age when I feel Like so many of us are

27:17

like instant gratification , like we wanted

27:19

to just be that easy , that like the big

27:21

things require big

27:23

, big inputs , big investments

27:25

, and you just have to , like you , like

27:27

you say , bet on yourself . That was like one of the biggest

27:29

lessons I took away from big brother was

27:32

like like after , after

27:34

Alyssa went . I

27:36

just like like feast mode

27:38

, like blow shit up mode . That

27:40

was like oh , and after Michael left , I

27:42

was just like yeah all this like I'm

27:44

betting on myself . And if

27:46

you haven't learned that lesson , anyone

27:49

who's listening ? If you haven't learned that lesson , there's so

27:51

much freedom that just comes from like , okay

27:53

, if the , if I , if there's a downfall

27:55

here , I take ownership of that

27:58

. But also like , when it , when

28:00

it does go off like your videos do like

28:02

, that's all you do .

28:03

Like you know , if you risk and that's a

28:05

huge part of mindset , just like you say , like when you bet on yourself

28:08

and big brother that's also when you won that veto

28:10

that saved your life , right . Right . And so

28:12

in that paid off in in

28:14

turn . So it's and I mean

28:16

that goes right back to Destination

28:18

manifestation like it is also in the mindset

28:21

.

28:22

Yeah yeah , cuz what , if it is

28:24

? And I mean , this is obviously what , like I would

28:26

would say , but like it is

28:28

this , it is the Belief in yourself

28:30

, the bet on yourself that is creating

28:32

that success . Yeah , like , because

28:34

how you show up in the video and how you

28:36

, you know , market it , and how you present

28:39

and how you edit it , and everything is influenced

28:41

by your belief in that

28:44

. Like this is something worthwhile , this

28:46

is something great . Like I want to share this with people

28:48

that there's energy attached to that , I mean

28:50

yeah , and also , when you like , doubt yourself

28:52

and you're so far on your timeline .

28:54

I was like look , look at where I am now . Sorry

28:57

, my I said Siracha

28:59

cauliflower before we started . It's clearly

29:01

not going well With my voice , but

29:03

can you just like look at where you are

29:06

on your journey and be like , oh my god , I've come so

29:08

far , like doubting myself . Now

29:10

what do I look like doing that ? We're already

29:12

like at level seven out of ten . Why would

29:14

I then be taking steps back ? And

29:16

it's yeah , I mean , in turn

29:19

, I look at my

29:21

path . It was definitely not a narrow

29:23

path and nobody's I don't , I don't think is like

29:25

I remember , like in school

29:27

would be like alright , what's your five-year plan ? Like how can you make

29:29

a five-year plan ? If I made a five-year plan and stuck

29:32

to it , I would never went on big brother I didn't know

29:34

what that was until 2019 and

29:36

so it's like yeah , you always need to

29:38

be . I don't even know where I went with this , but always

29:40

being adaptable and always being

29:42

open-minded and hyping yourself

29:44

up is Like the biggest

29:46

things .

29:47

I think I've learned it well , I'm so

29:49

glad that you mentioned that , turner , because that was something I want to talk

29:51

to you about . Like , you , have shifted gears

29:54

quite a few times in your

29:56

life like . Artistically in your

29:58

business , like you , like your all those

30:00

things . Are you saying you're a video editor than you had . Then

30:02

you had the thrift store , the rug , yeah

30:04

, now your furniture maker , influencer

30:06

, content creator , like when

30:09

and how do you internally

30:11

know when it's time to evolve and shift

30:14

?

30:14

that . That's a really good question . I just

30:16

think it's Off . This is gonna

30:19

sound crazy , but it's off of vibes , bro

30:21

, like it is literally off of vibes what

30:24

do you mean by that off of ?

30:26

how do you know ?

30:27

It's like a lot of the times I

30:29

get this like inkling of a thought in

30:31

my head and , you know , sometimes a passing thought

30:34

. They come in every day , thousands of them , but

30:36

when one sticks I'm like I just need to

30:38

go with my gut . When I decided

30:40

to Start start

30:42

backpacking , for months on end I everyone

30:45

is like why would you be backpacking

30:47

when no one you know in vietnam and you have

30:49

a dream of buying a motorcycle , you

30:51

never ridden motorcycle and driving it thousands

30:53

of miles throughout southeast asia ? I was like I don't know

30:55

is just what I want to do and I'm gonna do it , I'm gonna

30:57

figure it out . And it's like I'm either gonna

30:59

do what I want I'm gonna die trying

31:01

and like , even

31:03

if I was dying trying

31:06

, say it's like brian cranson doesn't get his like break

31:08

out roll please in his fifties , like If he wasn't

31:10

pursuing that his whole entire

31:12

life , that never would have happened . And so

31:14

, and a certain point , just like in ice home , like

31:17

I maybe I'm making videos for four years straight

31:19

now and I won't hit my stride until

31:21

eight years from now , which is when I really

31:23

hit in a with big brother . But

31:26

it's like I will die trying if I care

31:28

enough , and I Do care enough about what I

31:30

pursue , so it's always worth it I think

31:32

there's something there , turner .

31:34

I really think that there is , because I

31:36

have a very similar experience

31:38

with that , like not to get too dark , but like when I was

31:40

really going through depression . On

31:42

the other side of that , I was like , fuck

31:45

this , I have to become a hypnotherapist

31:47

because that's what I want to do and I want to start my own business

31:49

. Because what's the alternative

31:51

? Be depressed and like Died

31:53

trying , I mean like it was . Like

31:55

it was like , well , of course , I have to go for this and

31:57

there's risks here , but I'd rather die trying

32:00

and doing what I love , then rotting

32:02

away , wishing that I could do things

32:04

and putting limits on myself , like

32:06

we tried that route . It's not

32:08

too great , yeah , the other way

32:10

now , and I just , I just love that

32:12

. Like it isn't it interesting that when you

32:14

do that , when you don't let the fears

32:16

take over and you do it anyways because you're like

32:19

I'm gonna do this or die trying

32:21

, that's when it ends up working

32:23

out ? At least , that's the stories that

32:25

I hear .

32:26

That's what it feels like , yeah yeah , exactly

32:28

, and I'm like before we

32:30

started recording , you're like I like how , what are your feelings

32:32

on mindset Manifestation

32:35

? And I was like it's more of a background

32:37

thought as opposed to like looking myself in the mirror

32:39

and like , you know , putting a post it note there , doing

32:42

whatever other , not traditional

32:44

, but whatever works for other I have

32:46

. Everyone has their own unique version

32:48

of manifestation and so mine

32:50

is always like , and I sometimes I

32:52

think I'm full of myself , but I'm like that can't be it , because

32:54

like something's working , and so I

32:57

literally I tell myself every day I

32:59

been , you know , I'm not saying I am the

33:01

greatest creator to ever live , but

33:03

if I'm not telling myself that , then like

33:06

what am I exactly doing ? Am I like

33:08

saying , oh yeah , he's better than me , but I'm just gonna

33:10

try ? Know , like in my head I

33:12

, I'm like the leader of the ship , so I better

33:14

hope that I'm getting to the destination is like what

33:16

other cruise ship captain is gonna be like ? Oh , hopefully

33:18

we get there , you know , maybe what do

33:20

you think ? I think we'll get there

33:23

. I hope exactly so , like , so

33:25

like . If I'm on a plane like the pilot better

33:27

think he's the best jam pilot ever , and so

33:29

that's exactly how I think about my mind .

33:32

I love that . That makes so much sense

33:34

, because you're not gonna do it . Who is and

33:37

let me just point this out who is ? If

33:39

you rely on other people

33:42

to do that for you , that can be

33:44

really sucky , like I definitely know that . That

33:46

was my experience with big brother is like well

33:48

, we're both been blessed with very supportive partners

33:50

. I know that a lot of how much

33:52

I'm on a lot of her shout out , steven

33:54

Right yeah , just like the old

33:57

day shout out and I

33:59

know that was huge for me to get used to is I

34:01

think I hadn't realized that I've been with steven for fourteen

34:03

years like it . I hadn't realized

34:05

how much he had put me up and therefore

34:08

, when I couldn't talk to him every day , that

34:10

like I almost I like my end my own

34:12

, pump myself up engine needed to be like

34:14

restarted because it just was as strong

34:17

as I had thought I was

34:19

doing that , but really I was borrowing his thoughts

34:21

about me a lot of the times , and

34:23

so big brother taught me this like oh , no , I

34:25

need to be , like yeah , I'm the best

34:27

you know , and what you say , like that we're giving the

34:29

example before , when you bet on yourself , like that's

34:32

when the things start happening , and so I just

34:34

love that , like of course , you need the pilot

34:36

to believe that they're best and

34:38

that's how you are . And Think

34:40

about the kind of artist you show up as

34:42

when you believe that , as opposed to the artist you be if you

34:44

didn't .

34:45

Yeah , exactly , I'd be like different versions . Or

34:47

it's like we also mentioned this briefly like

34:50

okay , filming in public here . If you

34:52

just walk in somewhere and set up a camera , no one's

34:54

gonna stop you . But if you , like Shiley , like

34:56

hey , can I film here , like people like

34:58

me , like alright , there's not enough . Like you need like

35:01

a little on to do what you want

35:03

to do , just like like acting like you

35:06

know what you're doing honestly is a huge

35:08

help . And even , yeah , like

35:10

he knows it's supposed to be here . Yeah , exactly

35:12

like all like you are . Yeah , like

35:14

the first time I started woodworking , which

35:17

was honestly seven , eight

35:19

months ago , not even that long ago , I

35:21

want to ask you about that , because you talked about

35:23

furniture in the house yeah , I never

35:25

thought about .

35:27

After big brother . So like , take that

35:29

, for instance , like talk about big shifts like

35:31

you weren't making furniture , at least you

35:33

know , not in the way that you do now during

35:35

big brother . So like , how did that come

35:37

to be ? And so like , like I know , during the brother we're

35:39

talking like rucksack this and that and all of a sudden , yeah

35:42

, I remember my this is funny

35:44

my dad text me

35:46

that you close rucksack

35:48

. My parents love you and they follow you and they're

35:50

like go turners closing rucksack

35:53

, and I thought he was literally pranking me because that's all

35:55

we talked about . Like you , know , shout out rucksack . So

35:57

talk about like that shift , because obviously

36:00

that must have been like an intuitive nudge of some sort

36:02

like I'm gonna go and be

36:04

an influencer and I'm gonna go and change

36:06

and now do like furniture stuff . Like how do

36:08

you ride those waves of those changes

36:10

when you're listening to your gut on things like that

36:13

?

36:13

so , like big brother ends , we spend

36:15

Whoever you are spends a little

36:18

bit of time in la , whether it's a day a month

36:20

. I spent a few weeks there and then I got

36:22

home and I like walked in the rucksack

36:24

and I don't even know what it was . I was just like

36:27

this isn't me , like this is

36:29

. This was me for

36:31

a year last year . But

36:33

I got in the building and it's funny cuz

36:35

Megan has recently told me she's like my on

36:37

literally said the second you get home you're

36:40

not gonna want to do this anymore . And I that's so

36:42

interesting cuz like I my every

36:44

single waking hour went into that business

36:46

Three year and so to

36:49

think of that , oh , a year from now you won't

36:51

be doing this shop . Your opening will be crazy

36:53

. I invest like I got a lot of return on investment

36:55

, but I invested 30 grand in my own money . I didn't

36:57

get a freaking loan , yeah renovated

37:00

that place .

37:00

I remember you telling us stories about like all the blood

37:03

and tears that went into that

37:05

, that that establish man exactly

37:08

, and so , like , so far , my

37:10

gut has never let me

37:12

down .

37:12

I got feelings and so I will . I literally walked

37:15

in the store and I was like yes

37:17

, cool , like you know , whatever , but it's

37:19

not me anymore and I just think

37:21

being willing to accept

37:23

that help me a lot , and I have always

37:26

wanted to make content

37:28

online and I was like okay , I'm in

37:30

a position now where it makes sense . I

37:32

remember getting off a big brother . I had 90

37:35

K right and in my literally

37:37

this is the sounds crazy . This is when I like walk the line of

37:39

being full of myself versus just confidence in like

37:41

backing myself up . But I was like Alright

37:44

, I know I have 90 K now and if I told

37:46

anybody this at the time , they would

37:48

laugh . They laugh at me . I'd be like but I'm

37:50

, I'm gonna be the most followed person From

37:53

BB 24 on instagram . I

37:55

knew it . If I said that on twitter , oh my god , it would

37:57

. I would be the laughing stock of the site To

38:00

drive . Yes , exactly , and I

38:02

was like I , that's my , gonna be my goal . I

38:04

hit that goal a couple weeks ago and

38:06

so it's like yeah , yeah , I

38:08

you now . I didn't know I am to 235

38:11

thousand strong and so , yes , but

38:13

it's like , listen , that sounds

38:15

like I'm saying that because , like , whoever was

38:17

, whether it was you or whether it was my own mother

38:20

, or whether it was , you know , montier

38:22

taylor , whoever was , that's my goal

38:24

. I don't care who I'm passing , that's just

38:26

was my goal , and so is like I'm gonna

38:28

make that come true . Now , a lot of content

38:31

. After I left the house , I didn't exactly know what I was doing , like

38:33

they were getting one through

38:35

three thousand likes , and I was like , all right , it's not

38:37

looking good . Like since

38:40

then , like I just kept pursuing

38:42

what I wanted . I kept thinking about

38:44

that weird little dream

38:47

I had and I was like I'm gonna go until the damn

38:49

wheels fall off .

38:50

And so , yeah , we hit that last week and

38:52

I was like , yes , yeah

38:54

, rats , by the way and I mean that's just that's

38:56

, that's so cool . So it's having that

38:59

vision , it's having that gut instinct . And

39:01

so let's go back to that moment . You walk

39:03

in a rug shack , you look around and

39:05

you're like , wow , this isn't me . Mm-hmm

39:08

a lot of people Now

39:11

, you're not a lot of people , but a lot of people would be

39:13

like how do they feel ? Like they're not giving

39:15

up or worried about what others

39:17

think , like I think a lot of people

39:19

like . I was a serial entrepreneur before

39:22

I became a hypnotherapist . I made jewelry

39:24

. I was a web designer .

39:26

Very interesting designer .

39:27

I did all these things and I

39:29

know like when I would start these businesses and then they just

39:31

wouldn't feel like me . So I can very much understand

39:34

what you're talking about . And then I would shift

39:36

and I always like , had so much

39:38

like me younger , I was having so much

39:40

like I would say shame around that , but just

39:42

like , oh my god , I felt like you know the boy that cries wolf

39:44

, I was like the girl who cried , business like that's

39:47

what I felt like , and it felt like almost to the point where I changed

39:49

so much that people were like , oh , brittany's

39:51

business , like nice pattern on the head

39:53

, you know I literally could not relate to this anymore

39:56

.

39:56

Sorry to jump in , but yeah , when I , when

39:58

I started rugs during the pandemic , like

40:01

when I ordered the first rug tuff thing gun

40:03

that I got , I told a couple people

40:06

in my family and they're like alright , like this

40:08

will be fun for a month . And I'm like like

40:10

in my head I'm like why would you say that to me ? Like what's wrong

40:12

with you ? But like also , I get

40:14

it , like I Literally whether it was the video

40:17

editing or when I was backpacking

40:19

, which was very like a very formative

40:21

half a year , but I left early from

40:24

. I was in China or something , I forget where I was

40:26

, but I left early because it was just

40:28

like I was getting homesick . I miss friends , I had a relative

40:30

pass and I was like I'm just gonna go home . But other

40:33

people frame that as like quitting . But that's when

40:35

like turning your mindset into heaven or hell really

40:37

comes to fruition , because , like , people

40:40

can be telling me I'm quitting , but I was like , oh no , I

40:42

had a really great couple of months

40:44

. This is gonna be like crucial

40:46

for like my growing ages going forward

40:48

and I felt very positive about that . So you can't

40:50

like let people get in your head

40:52

about that , because if I really thought I would just kept giving

40:54

up , then I don't know where my life

40:57

would have ended up or when . I like

40:59

before big brother , I never , ever talked about

41:01

this . But I also really don't talk about my personal life on my Instagram

41:03

page . Anyway , it's like you know what I'm building , so

41:05

I'm totally fine with getting into this . But like

41:07

I literally felt for years

41:09

like the most hated person on the

41:12

internet for so long , like I would

41:14

. I had like 3,000 followers

41:16

and I would like wake up my phone like , oh , 700

41:18

messages telling me people hate me . That's awesome

41:21

and I was like , but it was like I don't care

41:23

. It's like the same exact moment where I'm like all right , wait

41:25

and see , bro , this is gonna

41:27

be a fun little payoff . And now

41:29

there's literally like videos from

41:31

this year . I know there's one YouTube

41:34

short and my big brother casting photo

41:36

is the is the photo and it's , like you

41:38

know , failed Whatever editors

41:41

from YouTube , whatever , and it's my big brother cast for

41:43

that's 11 million views , I'm like . So 11

41:45

million people clicked on my big brother casting

41:48

photo to like , you know , dog on me in a YouTube

41:50

short . I'm like , whatever it is what it

41:52

is like . You're never gonna Control

41:54

the minds of others . You can really only control your

41:56

own , what you , what you have going on .

41:58

So it's so important experience helped

42:00

coming out of the big brother house .

42:02

Oh my god .

42:03

You . I feel like all of us in some way

42:05

got some sort of hate because yeah . Like

42:09

you're like you already is like . You're like this is not my first

42:11

rodeo . Like I can deal with my god .

42:13

I was like the pinion yeah , like I , some

42:15

people from our season got out of the show and that

42:18

really did affect them and I sympathize with that

42:20

because I was affected by that for years

42:22

. And so when I got out of the big brother house , I was like

42:24

, oh , 70,000 people

42:26

are mad at me , whatever . Been there , like

42:29

I couldn't have possibly cared less . And

42:31

that , like , in turn , like I feel

42:33

like because of that , I , you know , started

42:35

like tweeting memes hour , whatever on Twitter

42:37

and people like came around like all right , it's

42:39

just turner . You know , he's the quirky little guy

42:41

, he just doesn't care about anything . And

42:43

I'm like , yeah , like that's . That even goes to show

42:46

like every single tough time is weathering

42:48

you for another storm and that

42:50

that storm genuinely weathered

42:52

me to know how to act . Once I got out of

42:54

the big brother house and just like there

42:56

were so many controversies like even pre big

42:58

brother , bro , I was a mega cancelled

43:00

. Everyone hated me before they like

43:03

saw me on the show , I was like that's just my life , all

43:05

right , so I get out of the big brother house . I

43:07

have that laptop with my sequester manager and

43:10

I'm googling myself . I'm like , oh , I was canceled months

43:12

ago , awesome , whatever . Um

43:14

I know and then I'm like I was like was everyone

43:16

canceled ? Oh me , just before anyone even

43:18

heard me talk . Great , that's helpful .

43:21

So got that . You were like . People didn't like

43:23

you at the very beginning , right ?

43:24

I had like a 1% like popularity

43:26

poll , like even I mean with peace of mind

43:29

, daniel had 30 . I'm like what am I doing wrong

43:31

, bro ? And so I ? I

43:33

I just think I get judged before people

43:35

really know me , but it's a story of my life , so I

43:37

I'd rather prove them wrong than

43:39

prove them right and just continue being myself

43:42

. And either I mean I don't know about killing

43:44

with kindness , I kill him with something , but I just keep

43:46

being myself , no matter what that

43:48

is so .

43:50

I love that and I literally wish I

43:52

Would have had more of . I

43:54

don't want to call it a thick skin , because it's like

43:56

you know , well , whatever , but like experience with

43:58

it helps you know , helps

44:00

you understand that , but like so , okay

44:02

, so it sounds like you recognize

44:04

that urge . Other people might be calling it given up

44:07

or other people might be saying , oh , they're switching gears to

44:09

this or that , but it's just . Is it believing

44:11

in that conviction within yourself

44:13

, that like gut feeling that like this

44:15

is my next chapter , like this is where I'm evolving

44:17

to ? Is it that belief

44:20

that keeps you going kind of continually

44:22

in the direction that feels Best

44:24

for you moving forward ?

44:26

Yeah , yeah . And I think even in the moment

44:28

it feels less like intense

44:30

because it's like , looking back on

44:32

so many of my decisions , I'm like that was a dumb

44:35

decision but it paid off , so who

44:37

cares ? But it's like , yeah

44:39

, at the at the time , like Even

44:41

trying out for big brother 24 when , um

44:44

, like I don't like to

44:46

for a scope of ideas , I

44:49

remember the month before leaving for big brother , the

44:51

store made like 30 grand . Right , I'm

44:53

like , okay , I'm gonna leave this behind

44:55

and just do my own . Do

44:57

do like go for TV . Like that Doesn't

45:00

sound like a great idea . But like , in

45:02

my head I was like this is what I want

45:04

to do , I'm gonna do it . For

45:06

example , I remember when I was in high school and I I

45:09

would try working . Like I got a job at

45:11

Bert this is such a goofy ass story but

45:13

I had a job at Burger King and

45:15

they wouldn't let me off for a Halloween

45:17

party , understandably . But I was like , okay

45:20

, then I'm just gonna quit . Like I want , I'm gonna do

45:22

what I want to do . Like I'll find

45:24

another job , like I'll go work at frickin McDonald's

45:26

. They don't care that I quit Burger King . So it's

45:28

always just about doing what I want to do , doing

45:30

what feels right , and a lot of the times you

45:33

know I'm trying to be sensible , right , um

45:35

, and weigh my options , but I've

45:37

just never Got myself

45:40

into too bad of a position , so

45:42

it's always just , I mean there's very , very

45:44

little that you couldn't undo

45:47

like truly undo I think in our

45:49

minds .

45:49

We think it's like this oh no , life or

45:51

death decision . There are very few

45:53

Like . Even if right

45:55

now you decided , oh shit , I made

45:57

a terrible mistake , I need to go create rug

46:00

shack again . You could go find a

46:02

spot and create that again if you

46:04

wanted to like . There's very few Things

46:06

that we can't undo and it's so funny that you

46:08

tell that story . I have the exact story

46:11

of that turner like I literally only

46:13

mine is even more ridiculous because I

46:15

was working on my business . I

46:18

was a receptionist at this like restaurant

46:20

company with this like god-awful boss , and

46:22

I was working on my business while I

46:24

was at work like I was I shouldn't

46:26

have been doing that . I was working on my own business while I was

46:28

at work and he caught me and he was like

46:30

you can't do this , like you cannot work on your business

46:32

during your working hours , and so I was like , oh well

46:34

, then I leave , but I'm yeah , yeah , it's like in

46:36

the backtracking . He's

46:39

like you can do it during lunch and like if

46:41

you don't have anything else to do , you can do it , and

46:44

so you know backtracking . And then I end up staying . But like

46:46

it was just funny , like Well , there

46:48

must be something that goes in your mind when

46:50

you really are locked in to , like creating

46:53

something for yourself , that it's like you're gonna do

46:55

it at all costs and if things in the

46:57

outside world get in the way , then you just get

46:59

rid of those things like exactly

47:01

, and you know , even like you

47:03

feel like playing Big brother

47:06

, right , I was like I need

47:08

to look out for myself .

47:09

So I don't think I always did the

47:12

morally right thing , but

47:14

I , I was always my biggest

47:16

advocate , and I mean not

47:18

like advocate , like in the sense I'm like hey guys , look at me

47:20

, I'm great , but you know , I'm hyping myself up

47:22

. I'm like I you just need to do what you need to do

47:24

and you need to do whatever you think you need

47:27

to do , because that always works

47:29

. And so , like A lot of what I

47:31

got heat for outside of the big brother house

47:33

right when we left was like how I treated Joseph

47:35

at direfest and it was like I get that and Joseph

47:37

is my best friend in the world . He's

47:40

uh what the groomsmen at my wedding coming

47:42

up , and so he's he's gonna be one of the guys standing

47:44

there Like I literally cannot talk

47:46

like highly enough of this guy , but

47:48

it's like you know I would . I would

47:50

do any of what I did again just to look out

47:53

for myself in these situations , and

47:55

I also think that's like it's

47:57

not bad to look out for yourself . You know

47:59

it's you need to .

48:00

You need to be the one who gets

48:02

yourself there because then , like we were

48:04

talking about before , who is looking out if not

48:07

? Exactly you , and even if you are

48:09

lucky enough to have somebody who's super supportive , then

48:11

you're almost on life support , like I was talking

48:13

about before with like feeling like I needed to create

48:15

my own belief in myself During

48:18

big brother , because I gotten so used to somebody like

48:20

pumping me full of belief , you know

48:22

, in that regard , like of like Pumping

48:24

me up in that way , and so it was like you

48:27

got to look out for yourself no matter what , especially

48:29

when you're playing a game , and I think a lot of people this

48:31

is like easy to say , but a lot of people think that they

48:33

, they know a very specific version of us . They

48:35

know us under a tremendous amount of stress , with

48:38

no sleep , playing a game for lots of money

48:40

. That's the version they know . And

48:43

they can deduce other things outside that , whatever

48:45

. But like you know and I think that's even been interesting

48:48

getting to know like somebody like you or any of our

48:50

castmates Like we now know each other more

48:52

outside the house than we ever did inside the house

48:54

because it's been long enough now and

48:56

you know there's even certain

48:59

things that kind of begin to surprise

49:01

me . You know about you or about other

49:03

people that it's like oh , I understand you now in

49:05

context of your life .

49:07

You know yeah , yeah , speaking of which .

49:09

How , in the world turner , knowing

49:11

how artistic you are and how much of a Part

49:14

of your life that is , how

49:16

did you go freaking three months ? You

49:18

know microwaving a tie-dye

49:21

shirt is the the extent of your artistic

49:23

Outlet like how

49:25

was that ? Now that I know you outside

49:27

the house , that makes me be more

49:29

in awe . How was it like to shut

49:32

off I mean essentially shut off that part of yourself

49:34

, for that long .

49:35

Yeah , I mean like definitely the extent

49:37

of it was making this damn shirt , which wasn't much

49:40

like artistic . Wearing it , by the

49:42

way , today , of course

49:44

this honestly , like now that I just

49:46

real quick side step , now that I make videos , I wear my

49:48

these tie-dye shirts and , like every single video

49:50

I make , everyone is like the shirts we

49:52

made together , every single one . But

49:54

so , yeah , when I was , oh

49:56

, thank you , thank you . Uh , when I was in the house

49:59

, yeah , you couldn't really make much , but I mean

50:01

so , week number one , it was a lot of like awe

50:03

and admiring what was going on because , like we

50:05

did live in like this Crazy Hollywood

50:08

set , it was beautiful and

50:10

, whether you like that style or not , because it was very

50:12

chaotic , I love how that house

50:14

looked and so love our theme

50:16

. Yeah , exactly , and like the big

50:18

color tv sign in the front or like

50:20

that big pool sign , it was just incredible

50:22

living there . And so then , like after

50:25

a while , I did get worried . I was like

50:27

, am I gonna like forget how to do a lot of the stuff

50:29

I've been doing for the past like decade

50:31

? And granted , I only got better at it , I think

50:34

, after big brother . But , um , yeah

50:37

, there was one thing I honestly didn't really struggle

50:39

. I my biggest struggle was like missing megan . Um

50:41

, finding like pure relationships

50:44

that I didn't think were just game related , and

50:46

then I think those are like Survival

50:49

instincts , almost so . Then the artistic stuff

50:51

came , came second , but like

50:53

, yeah , I think there was an

50:55

art in building relationships , so much so

50:57

that I was really focused on that that

50:59

was a creative pursuit in that house was

51:01

definitely a different form of it like

51:03

there was like , uh , I remember week one when

51:06

everyone's like trying to get to know each other and I

51:08

love getting to know people , but it's like I just I

51:10

can't function without caffeine . I have a really

51:12

hard time doing that , and it's not like quirky , it's

51:15

like a serious problem . I have a real addiction

51:17

, and so when

51:19

people are like I haven't had my coffee in the morning and people

51:21

like , oh , what do you do for work , I'm like bro

51:23

, just like leave me alone for like 10 minutes

51:25

, but like you can't say that , so you have

51:27

to be like learned .

51:28

We quickly learned .

51:29

Yeah , yeah exactly so

51:31

like . And then you see like so many

51:33

like huge personalities , like I remember waking

51:35

up like day number four and I said Monty

51:38

pooch and Kyle dancing at

51:40

7 am . I'm like what is wrong

51:42

with you people and like you know , love them

51:44

. But I just it was , and

51:46

I feel like you could probably like relate to it

51:48

being a little more Introverted

51:50

in that context . Like I

51:52

think in my personal life I'm the most outgoing

51:54

person I know , but in that setting I'm like

51:56

nowhere even near 15th place

51:58

. I'm like how do these people have like , how

52:01

did like was me getting cast a fluke ? Because

52:03

this doesn't seem like I belong in

52:05

this ?

52:05

I mean , I think that's so funny because I know so many of us

52:08

leftovers had that same sentiment of

52:10

feeling like , yeah , I'm the same way , I

52:12

am like the outgoing funny girl

52:14

in my , in my group , but I get into

52:16

this and I'm like a wet rag , like what , what

52:18

the heck ? Like it was so Jarring

52:20

to be in that , and

52:23

just , yeah , I get overly stimulated very

52:25

easily too , and so it's you . You

52:27

slink back . But then if you slink back

52:29

too much , or if people have a certain idea

52:31

of you , like I know , for me it was definitely

52:33

like I had to . I had to play a completely different

52:35

game that I ever intended on playing From

52:37

the moment pooch picked me for backstage and

52:39

so it's like all plans went , just

52:41

flew out the window and then it was like

52:44

you could never . You know it was I mean . I guess I eventually

52:46

did somewhat recover , but not it , not

52:48

ever really .

52:49

Totally and like it's almost similar

52:51

to when you see people online and you don't realize

52:54

it's like a three-dimensional person , even if they're showing their

52:56

highlights . Um , like once you see

52:58

what their real life is like . It's a little

53:00

different . And so I remember week Two

53:03

. I was talking to Monty

53:05

or Kyle , it was one of them no , okay

53:07

, it was Kyle week two and I thought he

53:09

was like such a big personality but then we

53:11

were alone for a second . He's like bro , I'm so sick

53:13

of talking to people . And like I

53:15

was like that is so helpful to know , because

53:18

I never would have thought that of you . And then you

53:20

know week eight and it's Monty

53:22

and he's like bro , if I talk to one

53:24

more person today I'm gonna go insane . And

53:26

I was like bro , I never would have thought that of you . Like that's honestly

53:28

helpful for me to internalize . I'm not the only

53:30

one who's going crazy here .

53:32

Yeah , yeah , I mean , honestly , that

53:34

was that was , I think , probably one of the reasons why

53:36

Michael and I became friends so quickly was like I just

53:38

we just had a conversation that was very similar

53:40

to that . That . I was like , oh , you just

53:42

kind of remind me of not

53:45

somebody here , but somebody in my outside

53:47

life that I would like jive with

53:49

, and that's that was just helpful to have that

53:51

context . I mean , that's interesting to hear

53:53

, though . So you were . I mean , obviously you were admiring

53:55

kind of the artistic , um elements

53:58

of the experience and like the

54:00

set and this and that . But it's interesting that you

54:02

kind of talk about like Survival

54:04

mode , like you know , because that's what they say . Like

54:06

when you're in survival mode , the

54:08

excess , like say , somebody's in fight

54:11

or flight , right for , like they have anxiety

54:13

for some reason . This is what you're talking about , but like just using

54:15

that as an example . Like um , when

54:18

your , your um Nervous

54:20

system is able to like be regulated again

54:22

, that's when you can , they say , feed

54:24

and breed like , because all the other Systems

54:27

can be turned off , because you're just focusing on staying

54:29

alive . It almost reminds me of that

54:31

, like the artistic systems within

54:33

you . Yeah could be turned off because you were just

54:35

focused on staying alive like there's

54:38

not excess resources for art

54:40

. When you're not in a like a safe

54:42

, regulated place , you know which big brother

54:44

is not a safe place

54:46

, especially um

54:48

during our , like you remember , during what

54:51

?

54:51

what comp was it that we both like almost died

54:53

doing , was it uh ?

54:54

It was otev .

54:55

Yeah , that was a real survival instinct . Like your

54:58

hand is broken open , my knee is broken

55:00

open .

55:02

Yeah , because isn't that the one ? That's what I gouged

55:04

my knee , which I still have a very prominent

55:06

scar about , by the way . And then

55:08

you , you dislocated

55:10

something .

55:11

I dislocated my kneecap . That is yeah

55:13

, and I remember you tried to like to time out and

55:15

nothing happened .

55:16

And that was the like , the eerie . That was crazy

55:19

.

55:19

That . That that was like an episode of black

55:21

mirror . When I tried timing out the whole show

55:23

, I was like there's a real problem here and

55:25

everyone , just everyone's like , keep

55:27

going , entertain us . And I was

55:29

like pro , I like I'm really trying to stop

55:32

the show . And then I was like , all right , I guess I'll like start

55:34

crawling and swimming through like goop with

55:36

like a broken knee .

55:38

Um , I can't imagine being you in that instance

55:41

. But I that same moment that I was like shit , this stuff

55:43

doesn't this .

55:44

This game doesn't stop for no one like no

55:46

, it's like literal survival mode sometimes .

55:50

But no , it's like a fun yeah

55:52

yeah , families watch this .

55:53

It's just we're hanging out .

55:56

So talk to me about this , and we were talking about

55:58

being creative and things like that . Do you ever

56:00

like how do you come up with the next idea

56:02

for the next project ? Like where do you get your

56:04

inspiration from ? Does it ever

56:07

dry up ? I'm curious to hear about that

56:09

.

56:09

Yeah , totally I think like I don't

56:11

know what it was . My like the work ethic

56:13

I was fine about before . So it's yeah , I've never

56:15

needed to like take a break with working

56:17

, even if I feel like if you looked at my profile

56:19

and you didn't know my explanation of it takes me a

56:21

month to make a video Then you would think I'm just

56:24

taking a break . But I've really

56:26

never gotten burnt out on like creative

56:28

stuff which I feel really blessed with . Just the

56:30

burnout doesn't exist because

56:33

it's my passion . And so my

56:35

next idea is like even Last night

56:37

at midnight , I'm on like Pinterest

56:40

right , looking at furniture ideas . Or

56:42

I'm really into like books

56:45

about Architects in their lives

56:47

, and so then it'll like show furniture throughout the book

56:49

. It's a really weird niche thing to

56:51

be into , but just books about architects . So

56:53

then I will start like seeing things that

56:55

they've made and I mean inspiration can really

56:57

hit anywhere . And

56:59

then a little bit of inspiration goes in if , like you

57:01

know , I have to tie a brand deal into it . So

57:04

let's see this like this bench that

57:06

I made . That's over here . That was my last video that

57:08

just went nuts . I mean

57:10

, the only reason there's a hole in it is because a cat

57:12

brand advertising and otherwise .

57:13

I wouldn't have made the whole .

57:26

So like , first off , it's like a mix

57:28

of like there's two sides of my brain working . It's like the brand

57:31

part , which is almost like the logical side

57:33

, and then the art side , and it's like they're both scrolling

57:35

on the same phone , but they're thinking about

57:37

different things . And so when I

57:40

I watch this YouTube video About

57:42

somebody building a bench similar to this , and

57:44

I was like , oh perfect , I want to make

57:46

that . So it goes on like a list of ideas and a Pinterest

57:49

board , that . And then I get a . My

57:51

agent is Alyssa Lopez from Maybrother , 23

57:54

, and she hits me . He's like , hey , do you want to work with

57:56

this brand ? And I'm like , okay , how could I translate

57:58

it over here on this page ? And

58:00

like , which one would it fit into ? And so , like

58:03

I have a . There's a VPN company

58:05

and I still don't know how the hell I'm gonna put a VPN

58:07

into a physical thing . But then I was like , okay , if

58:10

you are on a VPN and you buy something

58:12

in another part of the world , something can be cheaper . So

58:14

then how about I just get the VPN to

58:16

allow me to have like cheaper materials and

58:18

then I can just make whatever I want , something like that ideas

58:21

.

58:21

You're just trying to find these connections

58:23

from these very distinct , separate

58:26

things . But exactly overlap

58:28

is like the really cool Unique

58:30

part about it ?

58:31

Yeah , totally , and I remember when I was a kid I

58:33

would . I used to watch just youtuber's name was

58:35

Woody's gamer tag and that's neither here nor there

58:37

. But he would do these like just random call

58:39

duty videos . That was what I was into , but he would always put

58:41

like a sponsor . And I remember as a kid when someone

58:43

read a brand deal I was like I'm

58:46

not watching this . I don't know why I thought that , but I was like I don't

58:48

even want to watch the video . Nothing about it I wanted

58:50

to see . And so it's like I get why

58:53

you it's a silly thing to think you just skip past the freaking

58:55

brand part , but as a kid I so now

58:57

I never want to like so have someone going through my video

58:59

and be like this brand seems so out of place

59:01

, like in half time to skip office . So I

59:03

really try to interconnect them . So it's something

59:05

I want to do and something the brand's gonna want

59:07

and something that's fun to make , and so there's no like brand-ish

59:10

Part of it , even though there is

59:12

. You know what I mean by that .

59:13

Oh , I absolutely get that and that's what's so

59:15

cool . It's like your video . Sure , the brand . The

59:17

brand is like whoa . Yeah

59:20

, you know , maybe not even throughout the whole thing , but at least

59:22

a portion of it . But it's so . It

59:24

makes so much sense . It's almost

59:26

like it becomes part of the story , like you were talking

59:28

about , like you create ups and downs , like their

59:30

story to these projects that you're

59:32

doing , and the brand's just another element

59:34

of that story , and so it's yeah

59:37

, it doesn't detract from it at all , which is really

59:39

that takes extra work , you

59:42

know , yeah , easy to just slap it as a label

59:44

on on top or at the beginning or at

59:46

the end or whatever , but it's much harder to

59:48

make it like to integrate it throughout you do a great

59:50

job and it's not as seamless as my description .

59:52

It does take , like I I have a script

59:55

for this , the part two of the bench video that I'm finishing

59:57

right now , and , my god , I have like two lines

59:59

written and I'm like , how do I write this

1:00:01

freaking script ? And it's gonna come to

1:00:03

me Eventually . I don't know how , but that's why

1:00:05

, like if the filming of

1:00:07

the project , I don't think of the scripts

1:00:10

, because I want like a problem to come about

1:00:12

and when , if I wrote a script beforehand , I wouldn't know

1:00:14

what the problem is gonna be . So usually

1:00:16

I just write it as I work , which is helpful

1:00:18

also .

1:00:19

That's cool , that's cool . So let me ask you

1:00:21

this , turner , since you know , we know each other from Big Brother , big

1:00:23

Brother was a huge influence in both

1:00:25

of our lives . Did Big Brother

1:00:27

influence or change you

1:00:29

as an artist , maker , creator

1:00:32

, influencer , like , did it influence the way

1:00:34

you see yourself , your work , your career

1:00:36

? I'd be curious to hear that .

1:00:38

Yeah , totally . I think . Like I Think

1:00:41

the relationships I made was the most important thing

1:00:43

I got from Big Brother and so maybe

1:00:45

not as Career based

1:00:47

, but that helped , like a lot of

1:00:49

I feel like you meet people

1:00:51

when you're supposed to meet people and whether they stay in

1:00:53

your life or leave your life , it's meant to be . And so

1:00:55

, like I'm not friends

1:00:57

with everyone from our Big Brothers I don't think anyone is

1:00:59

friends with everybody- it's just not that 16

1:01:02

new friends , yeah , and so it's like my

1:01:04

relationship with you , my relationship

1:01:06

with Alyssa , my relationship with Jasmine

1:01:09

, and there's more people . The list goes on

1:01:11

. If I didn't say her name , I you know who

1:01:13

you are , but I'm meant to be drama , yeah

1:01:15

exactly , and so it's like so

1:01:17

many of my relationships I I'm so

1:01:20

happy that I have especially you

1:01:22

, like I don't know . I love talking to you . This is this

1:01:24

hasn't even seen like we're doing a podcast . This hour

1:01:26

has literally flown by and like seemingly a minute

1:01:28

and so like I Really

1:01:31

think that everybody who I've remained in contact

1:01:33

with for a career reason

1:01:36

or for just I love having

1:01:38

them in my life . That's the best thing

1:01:40

I've , uh I've like taken from the show

1:01:42

and I thought it was so funny . And Alyssa's episode

1:01:44

she's like the best and worst things I I gained

1:01:46

from Big Brother war their relationships .

1:01:48

I was like that's a funny way to put it but I

1:01:50

fully agree , it really is , and it's

1:01:52

funny , I think , that sometimes even clouded

1:01:55

my I

1:01:58

don't know my gameplay . Like

1:02:01

that idea was always kind of forefront

1:02:03

because I was such a big big brother fan and

1:02:05

I would follow all the people online . I'd see

1:02:07

them getting together and it just seemed like they

1:02:09

created this like new family and I really wanted

1:02:12

that , and so I think sometimes I would like try

1:02:14

to make things work more than

1:02:17

they needed to . Um , I feel like

1:02:19

now I'm at a really good place . It's like all the people I'm

1:02:21

close to , I talk with a lot . They're like I

1:02:23

think of them more . You know , it's kind

1:02:25

of like your friends that maybe made a friend in high school or it made

1:02:27

a friend in college , and if somebody asked you like , oh , how do you

1:02:29

know them ? You're like , oh , we met in high school . Like

1:02:31

that's kind of how I feel about like you and other people

1:02:33

. I'm like , oh , how did you know them ? Like , oh

1:02:36

, we met on this random reality show

1:02:38

. Like of course because the relationships

1:02:40

have built up More . I mean we've known

1:02:42

each other way longer than three months outside the house

1:02:44

than inside the house , and you

1:02:47

know I I think I've gotten to , I've

1:02:49

made peace with the people that I am

1:02:51

no longer friends with and really

1:02:53

embrace . You know the people

1:02:55

that I am and both are

1:02:57

okay . Like you're saying it is

1:03:00

fine , like none of us in life are

1:03:02

meant to be in each other's lives , like 100%

1:03:04

of the time . We will have some people who are like that

1:03:06

and there for the long runs , but we will have some people who

1:03:09

make their way in and make their way out and that's just part

1:03:11

of life too , and that's even like with my best friends

1:03:13

.

1:03:13

We could not talk for months and then

1:03:15

we reconnect and it's the same . So

1:03:17

it's like we might not talk every day or even

1:03:19

every week , but like the when we do talk

1:03:21

there's nothing like nothing's lost . You know , like

1:03:24

even , um , I Think literally

1:03:26

the only person I there's a couple people I talk

1:03:28

to like every other day , but even that

1:03:30

it's like I don't reach out to anybody

1:03:32

every day . There's like no chat . I'm doing my own

1:03:34

thing , and it's like I love my and my

1:03:37

friends but I can't . It's

1:03:39

not even like I can't be bothered , but it's like I don't even

1:03:41

want to be annoying sometimes . Sometimes I don't want to feel like a burden

1:03:43

. If I'm reaching out to someone every day , it's like all right , you're

1:03:46

kind of like overstaying your welcome

1:03:48

here , holy shit .

1:03:48

Yeah , that's introvert Intendencies

1:03:51

, I'm sure coming to play to you . I'm the same way . I don't

1:03:53

think I talked to anybody every

1:03:55

day . Yeah , I do love that how

1:03:57

some of my big brother friends are the people that I talked to

1:03:59

the most now , which is yeah

1:04:02

of course , cool that we didn't have that you know

1:04:04

.

1:04:04

And I think people would be shocked to see that we

1:04:06

have developed a great relationship . Right ? If

1:04:08

I was a fan , I'd be like wait , they like like

1:04:11

each other , like their friends . What are you talking about

1:04:13

?

1:04:13

Yeah , I wonder that too , because I

1:04:15

would see that with other seasons

1:04:17

back when I was just a fan , before being on the show

1:04:19

, I'd see that and I'm like how , in the world of these people

1:04:21

, friends now , but it's

1:04:23

just weird . Being in the outside I

1:04:25

don't think they tell you like out after the show

1:04:27

is like it's whole other Experience

1:04:31

. It's this yeah other chapter that

1:04:33

you're not ever prepared for . That

1:04:35

has its own ups and downs too

1:04:37

.

1:04:37

Yeah , totally it's like a Like

1:04:40

for me . Even it could be that

1:04:42

way for everybody , but for me it was like . Even with the store closing

1:04:44

and after big brother , they felt like a rebirth and like

1:04:46

a like that , three months

1:04:48

outside of everything , no phone

1:04:50

, just a couple people that you Know

1:04:53

more than you ever wish to know anybody

1:04:55

. Honestly , it's like that was such

1:04:57

like a Reset . So it's

1:04:59

like you know , I think , of my life in like chapters

1:05:02

and like big brother , and afterward

1:05:04

is its own whole chapter . Yeah

1:05:07

, I remember there's this , so

1:05:09

I don't know when it was , but Tyler creator released a

1:05:11

song a while ago and he said he

1:05:13

really hit puberty at 23 and I was

1:05:15

like hello the hell , is that possible ? But then at

1:05:18

23 I feel the exact same way . I don't think I was even like

1:05:20

conscious until 23 . I don't think I existed

1:05:22

before that .

1:05:25

Yeah , I totally . I mean that is so

1:05:27

true , like there is life before big

1:05:29

brother and there's life after big brother . And

1:05:31

I even think of some of the oh

1:05:34

, what is it the song

1:05:36

? It's the Frank Ocean song that

1:05:38

would come on in the big brother house .

1:05:41

The black and yellow . Oh , pink , pink

1:05:43

and white pink and white .

1:05:44

Yeah , that's what . Yeah , that song

1:05:46

I knew I remember you

1:05:48

liking and they would always play over the the

1:05:50

like loudspeakers and like as it was

1:05:53

, and , like the beyond , beyonce's

1:05:55

that came out right , literally

1:05:57

. So like my Spotify , like my music playlist

1:06:00

, I have it all in order for my entire

1:06:02

life . This is like very OCD of me , but like I

1:06:04

have it all in order by my life . So it

1:06:06

goes from like middle school to

1:06:08

high school , through college , and so there

1:06:10

are there a set of songs that

1:06:12

as soon as I got home from big brother , I was like one

1:06:14

of the songs that are gonna be sense memory for

1:06:17

big brother , that will like Instantly

1:06:19

bring me back there for better or worse .

1:06:20

Yeah , I could never hear freaking New

1:06:23

York State of mind by Jay-Z Without thinking

1:06:25

of , right before a competition , that Jesus

1:06:28

, that song was every day .

1:06:30

Every day . And this is so funny because it's like that

1:06:32

just is like that rush of , and it's funny because

1:06:34

it's like , literally , as I listen to my music , there's before

1:06:36

big brother and there's after big brother , like even on this

1:06:38

like playlist , and and it's

1:06:40

just kind of how life is too , you know , in

1:06:43

a lot of ways and also our goodnight messages

1:06:45

with song recommendations at the end .

1:06:47

So , did something with that . Yeah

1:06:49

, yeah , it's all in a leftover . I haven't

1:06:51

saved it . I can send it to you . It's like leftovers , spotify

1:06:54

recommendations and so so

1:06:56

that's how I found out . Afterwards I was like , oh yeah , suvian

1:06:59

Stephen sees on this playlist . I remember that

1:07:01

I should listen in because of Brittany . And then I saw

1:07:03

Anthony Fantano review and so I listened

1:07:05

to his album and then I was thinking you and I texted

1:07:07

you yeah , so

1:07:10

crazy .

1:07:10

I would never thought , like while we were doing all that , but

1:07:12

that like in the real world , what is

1:07:15

it gonna look like in the real world when we actually go listen

1:07:17

to these things or check out these things ? You know , it just doesn't

1:07:19

. You don't go that far , your mind won't

1:07:21

let you go that far because you're in survival mode

1:07:23

, you know exactly well , let me ask

1:07:25

you this so as we move into the

1:07:27

next chapter of life

1:07:29

Turner . Yeah , I mean with me , like

1:07:32

what is Matthew Turner

1:07:34

Manifested version of you ? That you're

1:07:36

the version that you're gonna evolve into

1:07:39

now ? Granted , we already talked about this , we can't

1:07:41

know too far in advance , but if you know , be

1:07:43

the way you would love to dream it now , of

1:07:45

course , so like you want to cook up in the future

1:07:47

, oh what ?

1:07:48

am I cooking up ? I love that , yeah

1:07:50

, so this is . Even if someone

1:07:53

hears this and is like no way , all

1:07:55

right , I'll prove you wrong , doesn't matter to me . Think what you want

1:07:57

. Well , here's what's happening

1:07:59

. All right , here is what is happening I am

1:08:01

. So I'm building out my brand . It I'm

1:08:03

trying to find it's like social online identity

1:08:06

, as I like Get better at woodworking

1:08:08

. It's called plant-based Furniture

1:08:11

, so it's like mate the . The joke is

1:08:13

it's like whenever I talk about eating plant-based

1:08:15

beef because I'm a vegetarian , it's like a play on

1:08:17

that plant-based furniture and it's made by plants , made

1:08:19

of wood , made of to , like you know , curate

1:08:21

different types of plants at the furniture itself

1:08:23

. And so I that I'm gonna

1:08:25

build out , I'm gonna sell it for millions of dollars

1:08:27

to Ikea . I know it's gonna happen . Ikea representatives

1:08:30

, you might not even believe it . It's gonna happen . Then

1:08:32

, when I hit a million followers

1:08:35

on Instagram , hey , might be years to come

1:08:37

. It's happening , it doesn't matter .

1:08:38

And you're like growing , like wow .

1:08:43

Thank you . So whenever that happens

1:08:45

, like I love Rhode Island and I plan

1:08:47

to live here for quite a while , it's also like

1:08:50

very affordable housing in Rhode Island like

1:08:52

this in New York would not be freaking achieved

1:08:54

.

1:08:54

I mean you have an amazing loft .

1:08:55

It's thank you . And so I

1:08:57

plan on like I do see

1:09:00

how , when there's this like trend

1:09:02

of influencers moving to those like big freaking

1:09:04

New York or LA penthouses , and sometimes

1:09:07

it just like becomes like less relatable , I'm

1:09:09

like oh , I can't like yeah . When

1:09:11

I was younger I like couldn't like grasp on

1:09:13

to what that even was , so usually that would tune

1:09:15

me up , like I have come to terms

1:09:17

with the fact that someday I do

1:09:19

actually want that , but for

1:09:21

right now I'm really happy just living

1:09:24

in Rhode Island , building out my Furniture

1:09:27

brand as I like get better at making furniture

1:09:29

, which is a huge step in this , and

1:09:32

so it might be years to come and

1:09:34

you know . But that and then hold

1:09:36

on . What was the ? What is the other thing I'm doing ? I have so many things

1:09:38

going on that it's tough to tell what

1:09:40

was . Oh , and then I my my dream

1:09:42

is also HGTV . I really

1:09:45

think that I . I've built out

1:09:47

something that I'm gonna keep building out alongside

1:09:49

the back end of the brand . That

1:09:52

, like my personal brand , is gonna be easily

1:09:54

translatable . For a production company to pick up HGTV

1:09:57

and sometimes better to move in silence . Move

1:09:59

in silence and stand on business that's what I think

1:10:01

that in my head sometimes . But hey , I'm

1:10:04

moving in front of the crowd now , so we're

1:10:06

out . But yeah , those are my

1:10:08

two goals .

1:10:08

Oh , Turner , I mean

1:10:10

, and just think about it , and you just keep

1:10:12

applying the same process You've been applying thus

1:10:14

far , and like you just believe

1:10:16

in it and you keep doing it and you're you die trying

1:10:19

and you're gonna move in the direction of that and you're

1:10:21

gonna pivot if it feels right and or when it feels

1:10:23

right or whatnot , like , yeah , right there .

1:10:25

And it's like this uh , this is gonna sound off topic

1:10:27

at first , but a lot of people right when you

1:10:29

I found this when you ask adults

1:10:31

, as if I'm not an adult , I feel like I'm 17

1:10:34

sometimes . But when you ask people who are older , their

1:10:36

age and like that's , that's rude . But

1:10:38

, like you see , I'm always like

1:10:40

so happy with my age . I wish I was 35

1:10:42

and I know if you're like 30 , I whoever's

1:10:44

35 watching this and be like alright , listen , you're

1:10:47

younger , you should enjoy it . Like every year , I just

1:10:49

feel like life gets better , like

1:10:51

I navigate it Somehow and I

1:10:53

it's like I climb a ladder rung every year in my

1:10:55

life and so I'm just really excited to see what

1:10:58

I work towards by ten years

1:11:01

from now or where my life is then , and I just , by

1:11:04

the trend of every year gets better I will

1:11:06

. I would love to just have that click button

1:11:08

and hit ten years from now and just see what's going on .

1:11:10

I couldn't agree with you more . I mean and that's what's

1:11:12

so cool , it's like I mean with that belief every

1:11:15

year gets better . That's what you end up creating

1:11:17

around you . Every year gets better .

1:11:19

Yeah , exactly .

1:11:20

I mean , I always forget like there's a decade

1:11:23

between you and I , like age wise .

1:11:25

Oh yeah , how old are . How old are you ? 34 ? Oh

1:11:28

yeah , and I'm 24 .

1:11:29

And you're 20 . I didn't even know

1:11:31

you were 22 during Big Brother , right ?

1:11:33

Yeah , yeah , I should I just

1:11:35

turned ?

1:11:36

23 , but yeah just so

1:11:38

that is funny .

1:11:38

I forgot that too . I feel like when I talk , yeah

1:11:41

, you and you and Jasmine Like

1:11:43

in a mirror .

1:11:43

She's my age too .

1:11:45

I forget you guys are like a decade older and that I should

1:11:47

go show like it . It doesn't really even mean anything

1:11:49

.

1:11:50

I can't wait to see you like

1:11:52

a decade from now , because I just think

1:11:55

, like I even just think about myself and like going

1:11:57

throughout my 20s and where I am now , like I

1:11:59

can attest , it gets so much better

1:12:01

. And it makes me excited to like

1:12:03

grow old , like I will never , you will

1:12:05

never , ever , ever , ever . Hear me Like

1:12:07

, be , like , oh , I'm getting older . This

1:12:09

or that like I don't , I look

1:12:11

forward to getting older . I love exactly

1:12:14

because it's like it's a life well lived . You just

1:12:16

know more and more about what you want and and

1:12:18

what you want to create , and I don't know . Life

1:12:20

is a gift . I know everybody says

1:12:22

that , but like it truly , truly is , and

1:12:24

the app , the opportunity that we get to Create

1:12:27

these things that we want to create , it's kind of like playing a video

1:12:29

game . That's why I think it's like we play this game

1:12:31

. It's like , yeah , what do we want to create with it ?

1:12:33

You know it's like , okay , like the

1:12:35

Sims is a recreation of life , but sometimes

1:12:37

like back , like backwards . I feel like I'm just playing a

1:12:39

Sims game and I'm like like , no matter what you

1:12:41

do , I could ruin my life

1:12:43

, but like you can get back on track . There's always a

1:12:45

way to get back on track . And it's like , no

1:12:48

matter what happens , it's not the end of the world .

1:12:50

That's what I'll . All the time I'll be working with clients and

1:12:52

they'll , you know , be worried about something or , like , have

1:12:54

anxiety about something , and we'll play the what if

1:12:56

game . Right , so many worries come in like , well

1:12:58

, what if this happened ? What if that happened ? What if that

1:13:00

happened ? And I always say , okay , well , let's answer

1:13:03

that question . What if it happened ? Oh

1:13:05

, well , then I would do this . Okay , well then , what would you do after

1:13:07

that ? And we all , yeah , we keep going

1:13:09

until we find where everything's okay . Because

1:13:12

if you answer enough what if questions , you'll get to the

1:13:14

other side . And I like to change the what if

1:13:16

question to even if . So . It's

1:13:18

like yeah you might ask yourself what

1:13:20

if I fail ? It's like well , even if I fail

1:13:22

, I'm gonna keep doing blah , blah , blah

1:13:24

because it's just finding your way onto the other side

1:13:26

of it , and very few things Can

1:13:29

you like . Most the time you're gonna be

1:13:31

able to find your way to the other side , no matter what happens .

1:13:33

Especially like , if you're not like raising

1:13:35

somebody else , you're fine . Like

1:13:37

you're fine like , granted , if I , if I had a

1:13:39

child right now , I probably couldn't like drop everything

1:13:41

and move to Montana , but like , given

1:13:44

that I don't have that , I can do , that I could do , it

1:13:46

doesn't matter right , and so there's so

1:13:48

much more freedom and flexibility in that anyway , so

1:13:50

yeah and if you do have children and you can't move

1:13:52

to Montana , then I apologize not that you

1:13:54

would want that anyway .

1:13:56

Right , yeah , my

1:13:58

gosh Turner , like you were saying this , I

1:14:01

just could talk to you all day about this stuff , but

1:14:03

I just know so many people are just going

1:14:05

to listen to this and just be inspired

1:14:07

and if there was one , let's

1:14:09

just close this out like if there's one piece of advice

1:14:11

you could give to somebody who's wanting to start

1:14:14

their own creative pursuit , wanting to start their own Business

1:14:16

or follow their passions or their art

1:14:19

or anything like that , what , what would you offer

1:14:21

to them ? What do you think is most important to keep in mind ?

1:14:23

I think , especially if you're like

1:14:25

beginning the process , like

1:14:27

just start , you know like you just need

1:14:30

to start . If I , when

1:14:32

I was in high school , recording with a flip video

1:14:34

camera that I got for like 50 bucks , like

1:14:36

if I was waiting till I got all the equipment

1:14:38

, if I was waiting until I got this

1:14:41

or that , it's like it never would have happened . So you just

1:14:43

need to start doing your thing . You're gonna

1:14:45

figure it out along the way . Like if I was

1:14:47

waiting to start making furniture until I had

1:14:49

all the tools , I still wouldn't . I use like two

1:14:51

tools when I would work and I don't think

1:14:53

anyone would guess that , but like I

1:14:55

don't have the proper Equipment I need , and

1:14:58

so it's like you just need to start and

1:15:00

so like , okay , I don't want this to

1:15:02

come off wrong , but if you're asking a million

1:15:04

questions to everybody else before you

1:15:06

even start , it's like you're already three

1:15:08

steps behind the next person who did start when

1:15:10

you did . So you just need to

1:15:12

Get going , especially if it's

1:15:14

a creative endeavor , because it's like if you're

1:15:17

asking tips from everybody and it's like a creative thing

1:15:19

, it's like you don't want outside influences

1:15:21

necessarily . I try to limit how

1:15:23

much like of other people's

1:15:25

reels I watch so that I'm not

1:15:28

Influenced , and that's not to say it's bad

1:15:30

to get influenced . We were talking before and sorry to

1:15:32

go on a whole nother tangent , but

1:15:34

what I said was my in listen to

1:15:36

this creator . If you're watching love , you I'm

1:15:39

a huge fan . But there was this creator's name is

1:15:41

a hundred thieves low and I'm a huge

1:15:43

fan of this guy . I watch everything he puts out , which contradicts

1:15:46

what I just said . But here I , when

1:15:48

I first started making like content , content

1:15:50

and I was like doing voiceovers , I would like

1:15:52

watch his write the script , like okay

1:15:55

, what would he say ? And then I like got a

1:15:57

real basis for like his

1:15:59

content and I hate saying that cuz like it

1:16:02

almost sounds like damn copyright infringement it

1:16:04

. Then , over the course of a year , I made

1:16:06

my own style of that and I

1:16:09

don't know if everyone should be copying a hundred thieves Hello

1:16:11

, sorry , bro , love yeah , but

1:16:13

like that's just what I did and it worked out .

1:16:15

And now I'm my own wheels . It's like , yeah , that's

1:16:17

exactly , his is kind of to get your footing

1:16:20

until you're like , oh wait , no , this is how I want to

1:16:22

do it . To now , you know you've changed

1:16:24

so much and found your own style and

1:16:26

I mean I feel like you really taught me that , like when

1:16:28

I was just kind of talking with you about like social media

1:16:30

stuff , just like off the cuff in real life

1:16:32

, it was like , oh , I think , especially

1:16:35

in online businesses , like with coaches

1:16:37

and hypnotherapy and stuff like that , like all the

1:16:39

gurus are trying to like use this

1:16:41

trending audio and do this

1:16:43

, and like they're trying it , like they're just creating copies

1:16:46

of each other , whereas I feel like you

1:16:48

made such a great point that it's like I , I want to create

1:16:51

something that's so uniquely me

1:16:53

, and sure , we might get inspiration

1:16:55

from other people as we're finding our unique voice . But

1:16:58

once you find something that's so uniquely you , like I'm

1:17:00

gonna go through my , my , I'm gonna be on social

1:17:02

media and just be scrolling through reels , but when Turners

1:17:05

pops up , like I know it's him .

1:17:07

You know , like yeah , because it's so unique

1:17:09

.

1:17:09

I want to be different than everybody

1:17:12

else . That's how you get attention , not be

1:17:14

the same and trending and all this other stuff

1:17:16

.

1:17:16

Like how , who have you seen with

1:17:18

a bucket hat on a liquid death hat ? I

1:17:21

don't know why I've been doing this this week , but the

1:17:23

the bucket hat on the trucker hat , it's

1:17:26

my new thing , it's gonna be a thing someday . Maybe

1:17:28

my friends are like can you like pick a hat ? I'm

1:17:30

like no , I I've started something and I can't

1:17:32

go back .

1:17:33

You can't go back . You saw it here first

1:17:36

.

1:17:36

Turner yeah , thank you , so yeah offering

1:17:38

all this stuff .

1:17:39

This has been . I can't wait to personally

1:17:41

go back and listen to all this , just because it's

1:17:43

. It's just inspiring to get to Hear kind

1:17:45

of the mindset that you apply to all these

1:17:48

things and guys . I mean

1:17:50

, it's , it works .

1:17:51

Yeah , exactly works and you're an example of it . So

1:17:54

likewise also , I would like to give you

1:17:56

your flowers . I really do love

1:17:58

what you do and I'm I'm

1:18:00

very proud to be able to call you a friend of mine , and so

1:18:02

thank you for having me on the podcast . You're

1:18:05

the goat . And also , when I was watching

1:18:07

all the other episodes as I go , I wonder I wonder what

1:18:09

my intro outro is gonna be . So I'm excited

1:18:11

to hear my intro . Yeah

1:18:14

, yeah , exactly .

1:18:16

That's so much fun . Well , I appreciate it . I know

1:18:18

sometimes you know how BB people are . We

1:18:21

all have our people that like watch out for us online

1:18:23

and I'll get like this mattering of messages

1:18:25

. It's like Turner talked about you in his live and

1:18:27

they'll like send me the little clip and it's like always

1:18:29

something super kind and I'm like thank you

1:18:31

, like that really makes my day and , yeah

1:18:34

, you know , I appreciate it .

1:18:35

Of course .

1:18:36

Turner , here's your outro . What

1:18:38

do you think ? I thought that was

1:18:40

funny that you wanted to see what your intro and outro would

1:18:42

be . I hope I do it justice . But before

1:18:44

we go any further , I just want to say thank you

1:18:46

, turner , for coming on to the show , and I'd

1:18:48

especially like to say just one more thing

1:18:50

. Thanks for your comments

1:18:53

. Am

1:18:56

I getting too much pleasure from saying that ? Is

1:18:58

it too soon ? No

1:19:00

, I freaking love that guy . Did you guys

1:19:02

notice what I was talking about ? About how

1:19:04

he thinks differently , whereas I

1:19:06

feel like so many other people might be like that's

1:19:09

gonna take too long or I can't do

1:19:11

that , or that's for other people , but

1:19:13

not me . He just

1:19:15

goes and does it . He just goes and does it

1:19:17

, and he started before you've ever even thought

1:19:19

that it was time for you to start right . He

1:19:22

believes in himself and he's not afraid

1:19:24

to put in the work because he finds joy

1:19:26

in the process . You know it's so funny

1:19:28

. I'm teaching this group hypnotherapy

1:19:30

and coaching course right now To

1:19:33

this incredible group of people . If

1:19:35

you missed joining the course , I hope you'll

1:19:37

have a chance to join us in some

1:19:39

future round . But that this

1:19:41

actually comes up a lot in our course

1:19:44

is how can we fall in love with the process

1:19:46

of Manifesting more than

1:19:48

the result ? How can we love to

1:19:50

create the content , create the furniture

1:19:53

, create the whatever , more than how

1:19:55

many likes or followers or brand

1:19:57

deals we might have ? It doesn't mean you can't

1:19:59

like those things , you can love those things , but

1:20:01

you have to fall in love with the process . You have to want

1:20:03

to do it again and again and again

1:20:05

, because , guess what ? The journey of our manifestation

1:20:08

is 99.99%

1:20:10

of our life . So

1:20:13

if we don't like that we're just waiting for

1:20:15

the time that we get the followers , we get the money

1:20:17

or we get the whatever , you're gonna live

1:20:19

a pretty miserable life and , honestly , you probably

1:20:21

aren't even gonna have the alignment and

1:20:24

the mindset necessary to even create that result

1:20:26

to begin with . So notice how

1:20:28

he doesn't even bat an eye when he

1:20:30

says that it might take years to reach certain goals

1:20:32

. He's like he's . He's not

1:20:34

like , oh , that's gonna take forever

1:20:36

, I guess I won't do it . No , he's like , yeah

1:20:38

, that's what it takes . He recognizes

1:20:40

that that's the name of the game . He

1:20:43

knows that all the videos , all the

1:20:45

furniture , all the rugs , anything that he

1:20:47

does throughout those years Will

1:20:49

build up to that vision that he had in mind

1:20:51

. So he gets to work . So

1:20:53

I just want to thank you to ravelers

1:20:56

for joining us here today on this

1:20:58

journey towards destination Manifestation

1:21:00

. You are absolutely amazing . I

1:21:02

love that you're here . I love that we can manifest

1:21:04

together and if you haven't done so already

1:21:07

, be sure to subscribe

1:21:09

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1:21:11

this episode , if you learned something interesting

1:21:13

about what it means to have a creative

1:21:16

mindset , you can certainly

1:21:18

learn more by subscribing to the show . Seriously

1:21:20

, even big brother interviews like these , which we've

1:21:22

had several on the show by now there

1:21:24

I feel like and I

1:21:27

know I'm biased , but I feel like they're really unlike

1:21:29

any other conversation You'll hear about

1:21:32

big brother that's out there , because

1:21:34

it all has to do with the mindset

1:21:36

behind the player , the houseguest

1:21:38

, and who they are and how they

1:21:40

think in real life and getting to know Kind

1:21:42

of the true essence of them , and I think that's why

1:21:45

the interviews are so successful . You don't see other

1:21:47

people asking these kind of questions out there , and

1:21:49

so I hope you enjoyed it , regardless if you're a big brother

1:21:51

fan or not . All

1:21:53

music on this podcast is by a cubed

1:21:56

and remember

1:21:58

, if you believe that life

1:22:00

will continue to get better and better each and

1:22:02

every year . You'll find it's gonna find

1:22:04

evidence that that will be true . And

1:22:06

then guess what ? Your life will

1:22:08

get better and better every single

1:22:10

year .

1:22:15

I don't know , I don't know , I don't

1:22:17

know , I don't know , waiting for me

1:22:19

to grow as it is .