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1:27

We're going to be talking about the YouTube

1:29

comments that I figured I'm not going to do that again. So we'll

1:31

just restart it. Leave it in. It's

1:34

interaction with the video. So

1:36

just one more reason for you all to

1:38

watch live. You get the bloopers live. That's

1:41

the only way you can get it. Raw

1:43

and uncut. Live

1:45

on Twitch. Raw and uncut. Got

1:48

a new sizzle reel coming. So

1:52

we were talking, is there something happening

1:54

for May the

1:57

4th this year, like Star Wars wise? Is it

1:59

the end? Is there like a new series or something coming out?

2:03

There always is. I am

2:05

not the expert here because it just feels like all

2:07

the time. Okay. I mean, I

2:09

feel like I'm living in gluttony, right,

2:11

with Shogun and Fallout both happening. Like,

2:14

unbelievable TV right now. TV

2:18

is real good at the moment. Too

2:20

much good entertainment. My mother was just

2:22

saying to me the other day, like, remember when

2:24

TV was just reality shows? Oh

2:26

yeah, got about that. That was

2:29

awful. Terrible. Now

2:31

it's, I mean, TV is so good. It's

2:33

the best it's ever been. I mean, it's

2:36

unbelievable. Yeah. Well, it's interesting

2:38

because it's like streaming and on-demand

2:40

content for the really big stuff,

2:43

right? Like, TV is like,

2:45

you're talking about, like, I assume

2:47

that's mostly sports now and

2:49

like news, like who watches. I haven't had cable subscriptions

2:52

in like 10 years. Yeah.

2:59

And the Golden Bachelor or what, I think that's it.

3:04

A little off topic, but TV is weird

3:06

because I wanted to watch the Masters

3:08

Golf Tournament this weekend. See

3:10

it? Sports. Sports, right? So I'm

3:12

like, okay, how do I do this? You know,

3:14

like, I obviously I go to Google. Google was

3:16

completely useless because every ad was like,

3:19

the Masters Golf Tournament is a tournament. Every

3:22

May in, you know, Georgia and

3:24

blah, blah, blah. And then like you scroll like

3:26

through 300 ads and then like, paywall. Right?

3:32

So I finally figured out that

3:34

the Masters has their own app so

3:37

you can watch the golf tournament like on Apple

3:39

TV or on your phone through their own app,

3:41

which is great. And it's free. Really?

3:44

Yeah. However, they

3:47

don't show like the traditional like,

3:50

here are the leaders like of

3:54

the golf tournament. Like,

3:56

they don't hear the shots they're getting. No,

3:58

what they do is they. show like here

4:00

is this group that has like Tiger

4:02

Woods in it and we're gonna

4:05

show every shot this group hits for 18

4:07

holes along with this group that's

4:09

six holes behind them but they don't show the

4:11

leaders and like the people who are like doing

4:14

score like making good scores and everything

4:16

so it's a little weird I ended

4:18

up subscribing a Paramount Plus actually

4:21

at first I subscribed to ESPN Plus

4:23

and quickly figured out that I just wasted

4:26

$12 because they're showing exactly the same thing

4:28

that the Masters app was showing and

4:31

then I subscribe to Paramount Plus and

4:33

they were showing like that kind of

4:35

like regular ass like golf tournament coverage

4:37

that's just perfect for a Sunday afternoon

4:39

nap all

4:43

that just to take a nap but

4:48

yeah

4:52

bought TV show there's questions about that in Twitter

4:54

question so I'm not gonna talk about it now

4:56

but holy smokes it what a good show so

4:58

happy what a good show what

5:00

a satisfying show like you know that you watch

5:02

a lot of shows where like everything's kind of

5:04

like you know towards the end

5:07

or it starts off good or whatever and just like the

5:09

whole thing like the through line of that show okay I'm

5:11

gonna stop talking about it's great it's really good if you

5:13

haven't watched it yet it's on Amazon and it is it's

5:17

real good watch

5:21

before we get into Destiny can you tell me a

5:23

little bit about I always forget the

5:25

name of this game it's mostly for

5:27

the rest for the weekend

5:31

I don't care about anything else except no rest

5:33

of the wicked for the foreseeable future all

5:36

right sold yeah

5:39

it's so if you don't know what no rest

5:41

for the wicked is they call it an ARPG

5:43

but I think that's actually kind of

5:45

misleading for a lot of people because

5:47

ARPG tends to be Diablo it's last

5:50

epoch it's it's all things like that

5:52

so you expect a certain amount of

5:54

things you expect combat I think especially

5:56

to be a certain way which is

5:58

you get really powerful builds You do

6:00

lots of AOE's and there's just like billions of

6:02

enemies on the screen and you blow them all

6:04

up. And that's what ARPG's are. And

6:07

I think that's probably the thing that

6:09

people expect the most out of an

6:11

ARPG experience. And that's at least

6:13

what I'm seeing online when it comes to the rest

6:15

of the Wiccan. But their combat... I was

6:18

going to say probably because it's isometric

6:20

as well. So people assume. Yeah.

6:23

So they call it an ARPG, but they're calling it

6:25

a different

6:27

take on the ARPG or moving the genre in

6:30

a different way and not having to be like

6:32

it. The combat has to be like this and

6:34

the upgrades have to be this way and you have to

6:37

pick a class and you have to... They're

6:39

definitely going outside of that. So

6:41

the combat is Souls-like

6:44

for sure. It's definitely Souls-like combat.

6:46

They said that their inspiration was

6:48

the Souls series in Monster Hunters,

6:50

so you have very deliberate hits

6:53

and the game can get real tough sometimes. But

6:56

on the other side that's not like a Souls-like

6:58

and it's actually why I tend to say that

7:00

it's almost like a top-down Neo. And

7:03

that's because of the loot. The loot

7:05

is randomized, so all of the areas

7:08

are handcrafted, unlike a lot of ARPGs.

7:11

But the loot that you get in there

7:13

is totally random. So you can end up

7:15

getting a bunch of purple loot and

7:17

I'll end up just getting a bunch of

7:20

materials or money or something like that. So

7:22

it's totally random what you find and where

7:24

you find it. So

7:26

that's kind of an ARPG thing and

7:28

then also the stats that come on

7:30

the armor and the weapons are also

7:32

random and that's when you can get

7:34

some really crazy build-scones.

7:38

How does Dark Souls combat work

7:40

with the isometric perspective where sometimes

7:43

your character can kind of like

7:45

cover up the enemy character or does

7:47

that not happen? No, it works perfectly.

7:50

I haven't had a single moment where I was

7:52

like, this tree is in the way or this

7:54

person's in the way or this box is in

7:56

the way. I haven't had any moment like that

7:58

in like 10 hours. Plus

8:01

the 15 hours I played in the small

8:03

demo earlier So

8:05

yeah 25 hours. I haven't had that experience yet

8:09

Upgrading works like souls as

8:11

well where you're choosing dexterity

8:13

strength intellect etc And then

8:15

your weapons scale with different

8:19

So it's very solsy It's basically just like

8:21

the loot and I think they're also gonna have

8:23

an endgame instead of having new game plus You're

8:26

gonna have like dungeons that you can grind

8:28

which definitely seems more arpg But I'm not

8:30

gonna experience that until later and then

8:33

you also have another part of the game

8:35

That's kind of like a crafting game where

8:38

you're cutting down trees you're fishing you're picking

8:40

up materials and you can craft armor Weapons,

8:42

but you can also craft things to put

8:45

in your house So you

8:47

can craft a bunch of different furniture you

8:49

can craft things that you can actually use

8:51

to make your equipment So

8:53

yeah, it's a mix of a couple different rounds

8:55

That is the thing that I'm most interested to

8:57

find out about because yeah I kind of get

8:59

the rest of it and it sounds very on

9:01

brand I know that I like a lot of

9:03

it, but then you're like oh and by the

9:05

way Animal crossing so

9:08

like how would you maybe like how does it

9:10

come? Yeah, like do you build your own house

9:12

or you're sort of like you have a choice

9:14

of a house and then when you say Build

9:16

your own equipment. What do you mean? Like

9:19

a chair to sit on or yeah, you'll do

9:21

use yeah, so you can buy a

9:23

bunch of different houses I haven't got to the

9:25

point where I can buy a house yet, but

9:28

you do have the choice of You're

9:30

gonna need money. You're definitely gonna

9:32

need money and

9:34

yeah, you have a couple different choices in

9:36

the town to houses to

9:38

buy from obviously like cheaper to more

9:40

expensive and then you can make yeah

9:42

like beds Wow

9:45

plant pots tables chairs

9:48

Candles you can you can

9:51

decorate your house and you can craft all

9:53

of it and you find Recipes in order

9:55

to craft it and you can get all

9:57

of the materials to craft it and then

9:59

you can like a smelter in

10:01

your house so that you can turn

10:03

your copper into ingots and etc so

10:06

yeah it's got all of that. Interesting.

10:08

I was gonna say,

10:12

I don't know I saw some smoke in the background there

10:14

Briar you got a smelter off to the set? I

10:17

wish man, in my dream. Yeah

10:21

I think you just answered I was like

10:23

does it buff you potentially in any ways

10:25

it's almost like an MMO kind of mechanic

10:27

to a point like have a house in

10:30

other words if you don't have a house you you

10:32

not get access to maybe it's something better? If

10:35

you don't have a house you aren't

10:37

able I believe as far as I

10:39

know from right now. Yeah I am

10:42

super early but I don't think you can like

10:45

craft your own armor and weapons

10:47

but then again there's also the

10:49

upgrading of the town so

10:52

you can also upgrade the town so

10:54

you put resources into the smithy and

10:56

you put resources into the tailor so

10:58

when they get to level two maybe

11:01

then they can craft stuff for you but

11:03

mine aren't at level two yet. Okay yeah

11:05

it sounds like sort of MMO housing to

11:07

a point and then that'll give you some

11:09

buffs like you mean so I that sounds

11:11

really cool and you did you

11:14

say you actually do things like chop down

11:16

trees or pull some grass in it so

11:18

that farming activities it's not like oh you need

11:21

a pack of enemies and just there's some logs

11:23

fell out of there but nope you

11:25

go around and you cut

11:27

down trees there's fishing there's

11:29

digging there's mining and

11:32

if you're fishing and digging those things can

11:34

also give you loot along with a fish or

11:36

you know whatever you get from doing that stuff in

11:38

the same area you're fighting enemies? Yes.

11:42

So like you might want to get

11:44

through like an area so that you find a good

11:46

fishing spot? So

11:49

you can find the way that fishing works

11:51

is there'll be like fish jumping out of

11:53

the water and then once you fish once

11:55

that is depleted so then

11:57

you have to go find another area. Now they do come

12:00

Like things do come back, but yeah, it

12:02

does get completed It's

12:06

really a crazy game man like if you're a fan

12:08

of if you're a fan

12:10

of souls like combat making builds and

12:12

crafting and Grinding to upgrade stuff. It's

12:14

it's really like the perfect game if

12:16

you're if you like what I like

12:18

I'm gonna be like combat and watch YouTube videos.

12:20

It tells me the best build to make RNG

12:26

to get the things to make

12:28

that how many fish do I gotta catch to

12:30

make this fucking badass? badass

12:33

Silver sword. Well, that's what I

12:36

wanted to ask is like do does all

12:38

the best gear come from crafting or does some

12:40

of it? Like drop could you play the

12:42

game more action oriented rather than just going down

12:45

crafting or is it kind of built-in? You kind of have to

12:47

do all of it No, there's a there's

12:49

a ton of loot that drops you can

12:51

get the rarity the way the rarity works

12:53

is there's white Which is common and they

12:55

don't use the standard rarity of like white

12:57

is bad and then blue is slightly better

12:59

I'm purple is slightly better than that and

13:01

then gold is the best they do a

13:03

white is the most Customizable like it doesn't

13:05

come with anything on it, but you

13:08

can put everything on it and you can upgrade

13:10

it So that's gonna take more of an investment

13:12

for a white weapon to be good. Yeah

13:15

Good way away when it drops you got a good

13:17

right away. Yeah. Yeah, this

13:20

is gonna be a cool idea game, isn't it? They're

13:22

gonna have a dozen of light because they're like

13:24

there's 25 hours of content in early access. I'm

13:27

like, yeah, right I'm 10 hours

13:29

in killed one and a half bosses

13:33

In the early I don't know. I

13:35

don't know how many bosses are that might be all of

13:37

them I don't know but it doesn't seem like it. I

13:40

hope we get in playing right now And

13:44

then the blue rarity loot is all

13:46

positive effects But so

13:49

you don't have to worry about anything

13:51

bad It's just all gonna be positive

13:53

stuff and then purple is cursed that

13:55

has super awesome positive effects But we'll

13:57

have a negative effect on it. So

14:00

I have one that I lose gold when

14:02

I die. Okay.

14:04

But I get like five super

14:06

crazy stats. Um,

14:10

and then the final rarity is the,

14:12

the gold one. And that's just unique,

14:15

which as I've only seen one so far, it's

14:17

come from a boss. It's a boss weapon. You

14:19

can't change anything on it. You can put gems

14:21

on it and gems will do stuff like 3%

14:25

more stamina or you get 2% health

14:27

on a kill or something like that. So

14:29

you can add gems to those weapons, but they

14:32

already come with four special moves, which

14:34

is the max amount that a weapon can have

14:36

the common ones come. White ones come with one

14:38

special move. And a lot of the blue ones

14:40

come with one or two. So

14:43

yeah, the unique weapons come with four special

14:45

moves, which is pretty crazy.

14:48

And yeah, the, the unique weapon is at

14:51

least this boss weapon does insane

14:53

damage. It's ridiculous. It's very, very good.

14:57

Okay. Yeah. How much,

14:59

uh, ability does your character have as far

15:01

as like fighting styles? Like, are

15:03

you forced to just use like the style that

15:05

they want? Is it a lot like very heavy

15:07

or can you build like a build

15:09

where you block a lot or roll a lot? So

15:12

you can get shields and shields can block

15:14

damage. And then if you really like, I

15:17

just want to block damage and never lose

15:19

my poise, which is, you know, if you

15:21

run out of your battle stance bar, poise

15:23

bar, whatever you want to call it, then

15:26

you're like, Oh no. And it makes you

15:28

weak to an attack. Um,

15:31

but so yeah, if you want it to use a

15:33

shield and you want it to just block everything, you

15:35

don't want to roll and you don't want to parry,

15:38

you could just get a bunch of armor that has

15:40

increased your poise on it so you can actually block

15:42

more stuff because it just uses your poise bar, so

15:44

you gotta be a little careful. So you can do

15:46

that. Um, you can also choose the parry if you

15:48

want, and you can choose the dodge. There's also magic

15:51

in the game with wands and also staffs, but

15:53

the way that they do it is a little

15:55

bit interesting because they use this thing called the

15:58

focus bar. And the focus bar. you

16:00

get that resource from

16:03

engaging in combat. You can parry and you get

16:05

a full focus bar. Doing

16:08

damage gives you a focus bar, so you can't

16:10

just sit there like slinging fireballs. You can't just

16:12

do that. You have to kind of interact with

16:14

it a little bit. I did find one ability,

16:17

which was a channeling ability, that takes

16:19

your health and turns

16:21

it into focus. So

16:23

I guess if you have a lot of stuff

16:26

to heal yourself with, you could do that and

16:28

throw a bunch of fireballs. But yeah, generally if

16:30

you're choosing to use magic, you are going to

16:32

be a little bit more interactive with combat than

16:34

just flinging magic. So

16:37

yeah, there's a bunch of different playstyles.

16:40

There's 100 weapons, they said. There's 100

16:42

weapons in the game. So

16:45

all of them have unique attacks. That's

16:48

interesting. How do

16:50

you think 100 combines to like Dark Souls game? And how

16:53

do you think it combines to like how many

16:56

weapons are in like an Assassin's Creed game? How

17:00

many weapons? Let's

17:02

do Dark Souls 3. Dark Souls 3, 220. And this is early access.

17:14

So this isn't even the final game. It's the first

17:16

act of the game. And

17:19

of course they're going to be they're adding multiplayer,

17:21

they're adding a whole new area, they're adding farming,

17:24

I cannot wait for farming because

17:26

you heal through food, cooking food.

17:28

So if you don't have any heals, you have to go and

17:31

get food to cook it. So

17:33

I can't wait for farming. Can you

17:35

like buy food in towns? You

17:38

might be able to, yeah. I haven't

17:40

looked at too many of the

17:42

vendors for that stuff, but you might be able to.

17:45

That would be nice. Buy some

17:47

chowder. You

17:49

know, order take out tonight.

17:51

Yeah, maybe stills

17:53

or whatever. Have they showed any multiplayer

17:56

yet? Like there's

17:58

a little bit in trailers, but. There

18:00

is a little. Yeah. Yeah. I'm

18:03

very curious to hear and learn about that because

18:05

it seems with the replayability and everything, that seems

18:07

like that could be a really sweet

18:09

spot. And like can they like,

18:11

yeah, like maybe, you know, the answer, can they

18:13

come to your house and, you

18:15

know, I assume, right? Which is pretty neat. Yeah. They

18:18

can totally come to your house. To go to

18:20

each other's houses or however that works. There's

18:22

even like a community chest that you can put stuff

18:24

in. So if anything's in the community chest, people can

18:26

just come and take it. People can put stuff in

18:28

the community chest. So I think what

18:31

I'm planning on doing, because the way that the game works

18:33

is there's you create a realm. I

18:35

think what I would do is have like a solo realm and

18:37

then have a co-op realm. And it's like, if you want to

18:39

play, this is the realm that I do co-op in. Which

18:42

might be a nice way to do it. How many people can play in

18:44

your together? I think it's

18:46

four total. Yeah, I think it was four. That's

18:48

pretty good. That'd be fun to just

18:50

roll into a soul. Yeah. Wonder

18:53

where the realms are hosted in that. I was like,

18:55

oh, is it like Valheim? Or, but probably not. I

18:57

mean, it sounds like they'll be hosting these rooms.

18:59

I don't know. I don't know how that

19:02

works. You can also play offline. So you don't have to

19:04

worry about any server issues. Nice.

19:07

Not something to worry about. So launch

19:09

was great. Super smooth. Super

19:11

smooth launch. Good stuff. From

19:13

the makers of Ori, if we didn't say

19:16

it already. Yes. From the creators

19:18

of Ori and the Will

19:20

of the Wisps, the Blind Forest. And the art is just,

19:23

it's really crazy. There's

19:25

parts in the town where you go and stand

19:27

on a balcony and it will kind of pan

19:29

over and show you the city. And there's also

19:31

a time system in the game as well as

19:33

weather. So you can see it in the bright

19:35

sun and then you can see it in the

19:37

evening with rain. And it's one

19:40

of the more beautiful games I think I've

19:42

ever seen. That's a run. Very

19:45

pretty. So it runs fine for me, but

19:47

I have an i9 3900K CPU. We

19:51

don't care about the GPU. You know why? Because

19:53

games don't care about GPUs anymore. You

19:56

can just not have one. You don't need one anymore. Yeah,

20:00

yeah, I was gonna say you almost

20:02

don't because it's on a cloud as

20:04

well, which is Really on

20:06

yeah, I think they just announced I was reading

20:09

the news up here and I was like, oh

20:11

wait It's on GeForce now

20:13

cloud. They played on that if you have

20:15

any problems Yeah, so it's just

20:17

that and I think steam for early

20:19

access but it is coming to couples eventually

20:21

So they'll have to optimize it somewhat

20:25

Yeah, they're definitely gonna be working on optimization

20:27

They've even said that they're having some fixes

20:29

in their next patch for GPU stuff just

20:31

to have it use the GPUs more because

20:33

it Is quite CPU bound so

20:36

people are having some frame dips here and

20:38

there other people are like, why can't I

20:40

play this game? It's a

20:42

popped out game. Why is it so demanding?

20:44

I'm like their lighting is insane Demanding

20:50

in games I had a friend who he

20:52

had his game on Steam beautiful lighting They

20:54

have to remove almost all of the lighting

20:56

to get it to work on switch Like

20:59

almost every single part of the lighting that

21:02

they had so

21:04

lighting can be very very very

21:06

demanding but Yeah,

21:08

it's it definitely is quite a demanding game. They will

21:10

be working on it more We'll see what the patch

21:13

does to make it use the GPU more But

21:15

currently it is quite CPU bound. So if you

21:17

have a beefy CPU, you should be fine Yes

21:22

Somebody out there check out GeForce now cloud for

21:24

us on this one. You can get like a

21:26

day pass I think there's the free stuff, but

21:28

like you can play up to like 4k on

21:30

a 4080. That's their top almost their

21:32

top-end card right now You

21:35

know, it is over cloud but like this type of game

21:37

might work pretty well now I don't

21:39

know how tight those Perry timings are but still

21:41

anyway, it's always nice To

21:44

see the advancements there could to your point. There's

21:46

people like man. It doesn't run right. It's like

21:49

Give it a try on cloud. I mean I split a

21:51

few things that I've been surprised by I Really

21:53

need to give cloud ago again soon. I

21:55

did I remember in

21:58

the beginning of D2 I did

22:01

trials of the nine one time on

22:03

my macbook on geforce now. Yeah, it

22:05

was It was amazing

22:14

See the game like that I've you know

22:16

less so think would work, but there's other games like

22:19

You know maybe even cyberpunk that you're like

22:21

actually it's not bad And I got all the

22:23

ray tracing on which is handled you know on

22:26

the cloud so anyway When I

22:28

didn't got shut down a lot of destiny players were

22:30

sad about it because they were playing Definitely

22:32

where I did you for free you know they were

22:34

yeah There's also a bunch

22:37

of people that I heard from that

22:39

were like I play so there was one person I knew

22:41

who was a who was a Paramedic

22:44

and they used to play in the ambulance while they were

22:46

waiting And that's how they like got in

22:48

their destiny time because they had a bunch of super

22:50

demanding times for that job And they yeah, they were

22:52

able to get in their gaming time like that Yeah,

22:55

I was traveling a lot then too And it

22:57

was super nice just to be able to like

22:59

login and like play on the vendors like literally

23:02

on your phone You could like get on you

23:04

know and Like

23:06

yeah get the vendors exactly for it. Yeah, not have

23:09

to worry about we've got to go my gated stuff.

23:11

Yeah, you could do it on your phone yeah Well

23:15

there is a few four still hook into

23:17

your steam library like for a

23:19

while They did that right, but I don't know if

23:21

they I think they stopped you They did do they

23:24

still do it They

23:26

did a one point if I can get an answer but Either

23:33

way it is a good reminder because some things it

23:35

does work pretty decent Yeah, go check it

23:37

out because the the game is quite

23:39

demanding and it's a does Yeah,

23:43

it lets you get a steam epic games

23:45

Ubisoft and more Cool,

23:48

that's dope So yeah,

23:50

we're just noting over time basically like you

23:52

rent Yeah, oh is

23:54

that how it works? I didn't know that actually that's really it

23:56

used to be like you could actually

23:59

play for free Just

24:01

at a lower quality kind of like stadium.

24:03

You can just use it and

24:05

then eventually they crack down on it But

24:07

I played several a pub G game that

24:09

way. Oh wait, which game? Yeah,

24:13

well no, they they still list the

24:15

free option they it's timed though It's

24:17

like 30 minutes or an

24:19

hour or so They're at least a one

24:21

hour session length on a basic rig and

24:24

it's there's ads potentially I see I thought

24:26

that like ongoing ad

24:28

supported Everything

24:31

now Briar like there's ads on your on the

24:33

stuff you already pay for like you pay for

24:35

that Amazon Prime's description You still got to watch

24:37

that I was real mad when they said Oh,

24:39

you want to pay us more money to get

24:41

an ad-free experience? I'm like, no, I want to

24:43

pay you the same amount of money I was

24:45

paying you before for an ad-free experience, which is

24:47

what I expected Like they

24:50

raised they raised the Amazon Prime I

24:52

am Cost

24:54

every year. Why didn't they

24:56

just build it into that? Like why do you got to charge

24:58

me a monthly fee now? I'm canceling

25:00

Amazon Prime as soon as fallout season

25:03

Binging yeah Everybody

25:06

will be probably Before

25:10

we do move on I just

25:12

want to say that until May 2nd

25:14

There is a 10% to 10% discount

25:17

on steam directly which takes it from

25:19

39.99 to 35.99 and

25:22

then there's also Yeah,

25:24

there's also affiliate links which I do have an

25:26

affiliate link a bunch of people have a feelings

25:28

and a Italian has a Affiliate

25:31

link and that takes it from 39.99 to 31.99. And how do

25:33

I find your affiliate link? I

25:37

have it on Twitter. I have it on

25:39

twitch. I have it on YouTube.

25:41

I Have it pretty

25:44

much everywhere. I think then no rest for

25:46

the wicked Twitter accounts also tweeted it out

25:49

But that what the way that that works is

25:51

it takes you to the private division website and

25:53

then you purchase it through there And they give you

25:56

a steam key. So you're still playing through steam.

25:58

You're just purchasing a steam key and getting Some

26:00

money off instead of directly perfect. I'll just

26:02

use your Yeah,

26:05

go support a creator. Yeah, yeah,

26:07

and I do I do get a

26:09

kickback again like one point five dollars,

26:11

so It's

26:14

like That

26:16

would be pretty cool $9

26:19

and you get a birthday Win-win

26:22

it is it's a win-win. It was actually really cool

26:25

that they did that because I don't know many

26:28

Studios that have done like a affiliate

26:30

link for just buying their game like

26:32

imagine if destiny did that for that

26:34

ever. Yeah Yeah, I mean other than epic

26:36

games in general. Yeah, pretty much just epic.

26:39

I would change my tune on the eververse

26:41

store I'll tell you what The

26:44

newest version ever restore it's amazing Yeah,

26:55

that's exciting Yeah, check watts

26:57

is a Twitter right was probably the best place. Yeah,

26:59

so just probably the easiest place That's my pin tweet.

27:01

So it's super easy to find Yeah,

27:05

it's it's an incredible game though, man I Don't

27:09

I will play this game forever And one of

27:11

the devs was in the stream and they're like

27:13

at this rate you're gonna be playing this game

27:15

for three years I'm like just the early access

27:17

because you're probably right I'm probably just gonna be

27:19

playing this one thing for a really long time.

27:21

You know how long she's been on the last

27:24

character creators That

27:26

will yeah that one was a while You

27:31

do create a character yeah character creator is

27:33

a lot more simplified than I think a

27:35

lot of games We've seen recently, but you

27:37

do create your own character Oh

27:45

How good is the new midnight cue oh Very

27:51

divisive Like

27:54

yeah, some people are like what is wrong with

27:56

this thing? What does everybody see in it? And

27:58

then other people are like This is

28:00

it. This is like, so

28:03

I'm trying to do a bunch of research right

28:05

now because I'm pretty sure I can make the

28:08

statement that it is the

28:10

strongest PvE hand cannon in the game,

28:14

even over Warden's Law, as long as you're not

28:16

rocking Lucky Pants, because it doesn't work with Lucky

28:18

Pants. But outside of that, it

28:21

is very, very strong in PvE, and

28:23

that's backed up by the people who run D2

28:25

Foundry, and all, or at least the people behind

28:27

the math of it. I was like, double checking,

28:29

like, hey guys, like am I right in this

28:31

statement? And they were like, yeah, you kinda are.

28:34

I was like, okay, here we go. But

28:36

no, it's very good in PvE, and

28:38

in PvP, that's where it's probably the

28:40

most divisive, but I

28:43

think because it has the most aim assist

28:45

in an Elphin adaptive hand cannon

28:48

in the game, 90 base, and

28:50

it comes with moving targets, you can get 100 out

28:53

the gate, no targeting mods or anything. Did

28:56

the old version have that much aim assist? I

28:59

think they juiced it. I need to

29:01

go back and check, but I know that they were juicing

29:03

weapons, and I think that this was

29:05

one of them. And

29:07

anyway, yeah, so I really

29:09

dig it in Crucible. It's got

29:11

a bunch of damage perk, a

29:13

bunch of new crazy perks, kinetic

29:15

trimmers for PvE, and one

29:18

for all, and there's a bunch of crazy perk

29:20

interactions too. I'm literally gonna have to make a

29:22

web of which

29:24

perks work together and which ones don't,

29:26

because it's very complicated. There's a bunch

29:28

that you think would and don't, and

29:30

then there's a bunch, like for instance,

29:32

just an example, like Fireflies on it

29:35

in the left column, and in the

29:37

right column, it's got one for all.

29:39

And Fireflies, if you shoot it in

29:41

the middle of a bunch of ads,

29:43

will blow up, hit multiple ads, and

29:45

activate 35% buff from one for all,

29:47

like just one shot. That is crazy.

29:49

And then that one shot

29:51

can also proc Flint Striker in the

29:54

seasonal artifact mod that gives you Radiance.

29:56

So you literally shoot one shot and

29:58

you're radiant, 35%. but

30:00

from one for all, like all at the

30:02

same time. It's nuts, yeah. So

30:04

you have in love. I've also heard people have

30:06

been liking, what was it, explosive payload and

30:08

Zen moment? Yeah, because it

30:11

lamps up fast. Yeah. Yeah,

30:14

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30:16

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30:19

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30:21

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that one yet. I'm really focused. I

31:32

have seen some really funny clips and now I

31:34

know that all I'm gonna do next time I

31:36

play Destiny is just shooting mountaintop

31:38

at your friend's feet and they just go

31:40

flying. They go flying

31:43

across the map. So

31:45

that's all I wanna do. I will be doing that. That

31:48

is something that used to be easier to fuck

31:50

with your friends in Destiny 1 than I feel

31:52

like it is in Destiny 2. And

31:55

I'm glad to see a little bit of that return because

31:57

that was definitely part of the fun of Destiny. It was

31:59

like. Running your friend over with a sparrow

32:01

smashing him into a wall to kill him during a

32:03

nightfall mission, you know stuff like that it's

32:06

so difficult because like you run and you run into

32:08

those Where people really

32:11

are trolling people and strikes and that is

32:13

for us I've been in one of those

32:15

strikes where somebody is like killing you like

32:17

constantly killing you By some trick

32:20

and you're like, dude, I just want

32:22

to just play this I can

32:24

get it over with you know, um, but it

32:26

is really fun when you can mess with your

32:28

friends and

32:30

so Do you get midnight could that just

32:32

launch this week? Is it uh, yeah The

32:34

new the our site 99 that new vendor

32:36

in the hall. Is that right? Yeah,

32:39

and it's a real to get these weapons. It's

32:41

really short quest to just get that first roll

32:43

and then you can Uh tune

32:46

it and then you have like a 50 drop rate Of

32:49

it no matter like how you're getting

32:51

it. Um, a lot of people are

32:53

complaining about that attunement They're like I

32:55

turned in 300 tokens and got three,

32:58

you know total Midnight coups,

33:00

but it's just rng, you know be

33:02

an rng They've

33:04

been dropping pretty frequently if you just

33:06

play the game like normal play some

33:08

onslaught Um, and yeah

33:10

those getting people showing off their shinies getting

33:12

those double perk column Things and

33:14

it like I said, it's really hard to get

33:16

a bad roll There's so many good perks and

33:19

so many good perk combinations. It really comes down

33:21

to Do you like the feel of

33:24

the gun and are you okay with the recoil? Does

33:26

it feel like it did in the

33:28

year one version? Yes,

33:32

and that is kind of the problem destiny guns are

33:34

so good and solid now Like it just most of

33:36

the hand cannons now like rose and uh, you know

33:38

igneous and some others It

33:43

just feels like they're just dead on like you don't feel the

33:45

kick as much and midnight kind of

33:48

Like it feels like the gun's hitting you in the

33:50

face a little bit And it goes to the side

33:52

a bunch and I think that's throwing a lot of

33:54

people off But zen

33:57

moments there to help with that So

34:00

like it's in moment. That's what the per Sort

34:03

of that's what the perk does is it literally takes

34:05

away the visual Recoil

34:09

of the weapon it actually doesn't do

34:11

anything other than flinch reduction in-game as

34:13

far as like stats But it reduces

34:15

the way that your screen bounces when

34:17

you view the gun I

34:20

mean that was my favorite weapon by a

34:22

launch that and like the first two years of

34:24

that you do Yeah, I use it for

34:27

everything I remember everybody posting

34:29

their numbers with that gun of yeah, the thousands

34:31

and thousands of kills and not wanting to take

34:33

it off right, so it's Same

34:35

with mountaintop and all the other obviously not

34:37

that back at one of the most used

34:39

guns out there. Oh Another

34:42

gun thing that happened this week is

34:45

last time I was on

34:47

the podcast I was talking about that

34:49

grenade launcher that had like infinite ammo

34:52

if you Like shot at

34:54

people's feet right at regenerating ammo So

34:56

everybody thought like oh, this is gonna

34:58

get patched all my YouTube comments That

35:02

has it, but it's not as easy to do

35:04

is it's the tusk of the boar Iron Bear

35:06

frame And so anyway

35:08

all the comments were like this is gonna

35:10

get patched It's gonna be like they're gonna

35:12

fix this and I was like y'all I think

35:15

it might be a bug the other way Like

35:17

I think they might fix it to where it

35:19

works all the time You don't have to do

35:21

this work around and then they did this week

35:23

They make it to where is if you just

35:26

shoot three enemies It doesn't matter how you do

35:28

it like the wave just hits three enemies. They

35:30

don't even have to die It just refunds your

35:32

ammo So like if people are in like a

35:34

well of radiance you can literally just boom boom

35:37

boom boom swords dead boom boom The players are

35:39

dead like you can just keep shooting and you

35:41

just have unlimited ammo to do it. It's really

35:44

crazy now Really

35:47

feels like they're just going crazy with this game right now

35:49

It does actually after last week with the reveal

35:52

is like what is going on? Yeah, like it

35:56

It really feels like okay. We're gonna

36:00

We're going to move on, but we're going to we're going to

36:02

go crazy with that. See to you before we do. And

36:06

we talked about that last week, I would encourage folks like

36:08

to go back to that episode. The question was sort of

36:10

like, man, it seems like they're kind of going ham with

36:12

all the powers and now we're talking about weapons going ham

36:15

and like is that a

36:17

signal for like a Destiny three and how far

36:19

is it out? And we went into the detail,

36:21

but that's kind of

36:23

what you're getting at, right, Brian? Yeah. Yeah,

36:27

now to cut it off. I was just like, yeah, I

36:30

feel like we said a lot last week. That

36:32

was interesting. I definitely feel that way, but I

36:34

still stand by the way. I still think it's

36:36

very far off, but it's setting the stage of

36:38

like there's still going

36:40

to be a change within Destiny two. Well,

36:43

you know, they're not worried about power creep. They're

36:45

like in a power elevator. They're like on the

36:47

power escalator. And they got

36:49

to set the back speed. Well,

36:52

you know, it is good. I think that you

36:54

all talked about this last week, but the that

36:57

they released the list of like

36:59

what the abilities are that they're adding

37:01

together. And it's kind of the underdogs

37:03

like the unused stuff. And so, you

37:06

know, it's helping people get to those things

37:08

and it's limiting it to not be like

37:10

crazy oppressive and PvP. At

37:13

least we think, you know, we'll see what

37:15

happens when we get it. But I'm still

37:17

even with that. I'm still on Fran's point

37:19

there because I think

37:21

you'll discuss this, too. But whenever Luke Smith first

37:23

got on on that, on

37:26

the opening, and he was like, here's what we're

37:28

doing the rest of

37:30

Destiny two and beyond like it

37:32

was like after Destiny two is what it

37:34

made it sound like. And I was like,

37:37

oh, yeah, that's definitely it

37:39

definitely feels like that's on the way at some point. I

37:42

just have to laugh at it because it's like people

37:44

read into those things. The way I know, you know,

37:46

he had to like reinforce Luke himself right. And

37:49

the team it's like, yeah, yeah, I know. And

37:55

like, guys, I think it

37:57

was the exact same. I'm

38:00

just happy to be back in. And. Let you

38:03

guys know. Just the

38:05

beginning Here I am validation one

38:07

take shy would that Miley Cyrus

38:09

good I like the best that

38:11

years when you're like hes a

38:14

specific ah but anyway. Yeah

38:17

like I I think you read intuit how

38:19

you want though right leg. To me it

38:21

just as much red blood we're not done

38:23

with of our saved die everybody We can't

38:26

tell you about the and in the story.

38:28

There's episodes coming and. We've. Got

38:30

things in store? That's one way to read it,

38:32

and I'd like everybody else do, want flakes of

38:34

that. Even bigger is just like he's talking about

38:37

their C Three. It it's like whoa, Yeah, I

38:39

think there's a Destiny three and that's my take

38:41

is it's both, right? Of

38:43

course down the road, but I think

38:45

you should strap in for episodes for

38:47

a while. A and maybe even another

38:50

expansion is years from now instead of

38:52

every year. Something? I mean, who knows.

38:54

I wrote for a long time I was how like I'm

38:56

not that I'm going to do just the three I think

38:59

they're just gonna continue to like. You.

39:01

Know add to Dessie to. It.

39:04

I for a long time I thought

39:06

why don't you guys just drop the

39:08

two and just his death Me like

39:10

why if you ever play I make

39:12

it a three than why why keep

39:14

the to around But maybe that's it.

39:16

They may i really arming in a

39:18

hurry migration by they leave behind you

39:20

know this destiny two but then they've

39:22

also got. That's. There is such

39:24

a big game now that it it's hard

39:26

to. Imagine that they keep

39:28

layering on it for another ten

39:31

years. Yeah, he via six years.

39:33

Like. I could see that's why Tribunal

39:35

Uri years three years of episodes

39:37

and then like, maybe our nine

39:39

or or just guessing. good. I'm

39:44

just gonna keep mess with us the three until it

39:46

goes through at Rensselaer. We'll be right. Now

39:49

I'm certain now. Hello there. That's what I

39:51

was getting attaboy people are you know, just

39:54

reading and do it how they wanna. Eventually

39:56

it did. They said there is not going

39:58

to be. A dead. Green Thumb

40:00

nail Keep the wrong ram. In

40:04

a in a news on the

40:06

next destination kids actually three come

40:08

from. Happening to me

40:10

and. We

40:13

have our i'm Excited a. Yeah

40:16

we didn't get to hear from you lego

40:18

The discussion was a lot on like. You.

40:21

Feel like it's going so ham it's

40:23

gonna be hard to like. Do. These

40:25

episodes and stuff after that it's getting so Hannah

40:27

you like? In other words, did you want another

40:29

sub class and you feel like this was a

40:31

means to an and are you like know? this

40:34

could have been really hard to do and there's

40:36

going. To what? Was your take

40:38

on it is Yeah I'd is an

40:40

answer seen conversation. Case it, it feels

40:42

like it would be really hard to

40:45

balance. So. Fast. Like for them

40:47

to just whip it out all the sudden

40:49

It does feel like it would have been

40:51

something a little more planned but also like

40:53

didn't they bring strand forward fertile life Fall?

40:55

I yeah I I didn't Billingham because of

40:57

their able to do that. I could see

40:59

how they were able to do this to

41:01

last second so I really feel like it

41:03

could go either way. but. Yeah. Regardless,

41:05

I think it's looks. Beautiful.

41:08

Disease they actually didn't create as we

41:10

brought that up. I think they actually

41:12

did create new stuff. like with the

41:14

prismatic grenades. And like once you enter

41:16

that states where you're throwing grenades and

41:18

mail is all the time. Ah, there

41:20

is like some new stuff. Yeah I

41:23

yeah, you're right. It's like a new

41:25

need, an transcendence itself. And the animation

41:27

and. And the whole like meter

41:29

thing where you have to fill it up

41:31

like that's a whole other thing. and maybe

41:33

the you I team was able to tackle

41:35

that because there's a new you I come

41:37

into that they introduce side don't remember when

41:40

that was but they kind of like previewed

41:42

it in one the trois observe fashion of

41:44

things here. and man that the new. The.

41:47

deanna you right crazy good just

41:49

having it's so clean and like

41:51

boss been on earth like suffer

41:53

the raid that's important up on

41:55

the top weapon stuff by your

41:57

weapon down low and then any

42:00

like character buffs, radiant, all that stuff on

42:02

the left. Like, I can't

42:04

wait for that. Just, it's very needed

42:06

with all the clutter we got right now. It's hard

42:08

to know what's going on. Yeah,

42:10

yeah, that's a good point. I just

42:12

was, I wonder if I caught the

42:14

same UI reveal you were talking about

42:16

we should share it after, but it

42:18

reminded me of like, they didn't launch

42:20

the new reticle, like the gun reticle

42:22

changes and stuff, right? Right, yeah.

42:25

They didn't do that yet, right? Remember when they were

42:27

talking about like, they showed like it in the sandbox

42:29

demo or changing how your gun

42:31

reticle looks, so there's more info and like, that

42:34

was a while ago. So,

42:37

what I'm leading to was like, I

42:39

was like, look, this excites me, but it looks

42:41

like more Destiny 2, which is awesome. I've always

42:43

played Destiny, I love it. But I'm still waiting,

42:46

like I like quality of life improvements

42:48

like you're talking about. Like what's kind of gonna

42:50

change the feel and experience? I hope they got

42:53

that rabbit or those rabbits to pull

42:55

out of their hat in

42:57

the coming month or so here. Honestly,

43:00

to me, the new subclass,

43:03

like I do view it as a new subclass,

43:05

the way that they pulled it all together.

43:07

I know some people won't, but like that was

43:09

the reveal to me. I was like, oh wow,

43:11

like the fact that we're getting that and

43:13

y'all covered this too, but like the new enemy

43:16

class as well, like just

43:18

a whole new, like that was just so, so

43:22

needed and man, it

43:24

gets me so excited to just

43:26

play something different. So

43:28

excited. Yeah, that's the stuff that

43:30

excites me is new enemies, new

43:32

mechanics, et cetera. Looking

43:35

forward to it. I'm just glad that

43:37

we're at a point where we're finally talking about

43:39

being excited again. We had

43:41

the usual, yeah, dread

43:44

to crawl through for a while of like, I

43:46

don't know, I might be done

43:49

with Destiny, you know? And like, I think some

43:51

people genuinely are or were, but

43:54

we're back at like, you know, people are

43:57

like, okay, I have been playing this

43:59

for 10 years. I've only quit for the last seven

44:01

months, so I didn't really quit, and now I'm definitely put.

44:03

Like whatever, it's not an I told you so, it's just

44:05

like, it's that same behavior

44:07

I feel like as someone who doesn't

44:09

play again, I'm not, I don't burn myself out as

44:11

much, and there's no right or wrong to it, whatever

44:14

you like to do, enjoy it. But

44:16

I think people burn themselves out, and it leads

44:18

to that like, despair. It's like

44:20

man, I always enjoy the expansions, like

44:23

whether things are perfect or not, and I've really been

44:25

looking forward to it. So that's why, again, I still

44:27

want more details, I can't wait to see the rate,

44:31

and quality of life improvements, man, they

44:34

go so far, I just always bring

44:36

up the loadouts, and the getting rid

44:38

of affinity elements and stuff

44:40

for a life fault, it was monstrous

44:42

enjoyment for me. Game I already invested

44:45

eight years in, and I hope Final Shape

44:47

brings something. Yeah,

44:50

you know one thing that they're also think, feels like

44:52

they might be pulling back on a little bit, we'll

44:54

see Dan Finney was in chat a second ago, and

44:56

he brought it up, doing, like

44:58

pulling back on crafted weapons a bit. It's

45:01

been a big discussion in the community this

45:03

week, because of the shinies that everybody's getting

45:05

from Into the Light, and it's like, oh

45:07

I got that rush again that I haven't

45:10

felt in Destiny for so long of getting

45:12

this special thing that won't be around for

45:14

a while, has a low chance of dropping,

45:17

but also isn't any different than the normal

45:19

thing that's available, it's just shiny, like it's

45:21

like getting a rare Pokemon, you know? So

45:25

it's made a lot of people be like, I've

45:28

been missing this because with crafted weapons, I

45:30

just make the thing, and

45:32

then I don't think about it again,

45:34

and that's it, you know, how much

45:36

more exciting is getting this shiny version

45:38

of something, versus getting five deep sites

45:40

to craft a weapon, just

45:42

is a very different feeling for people. I'm curious

45:44

if y'all have any thoughts on that, because I

45:47

have some thoughts, but I want to hear y'alls

45:49

first. Got

45:53

any thoughts? This is not my favorite

45:55

part of the game, so it's like I don't really care

45:57

how all this stuff works. I

45:59

just take the gun. If I got a grind

46:01

for one that's like really special out to it for

46:03

grudgingly, but I'll do it I

46:05

feel like I should have said Fran. Do you have any thoughts?

46:09

Babbling on about the same thing I did last

46:12

week. So I was being hesitant. Um, yeah, I

46:14

mean I Don't

46:16

want to burn myself out. Like I said, so I

46:18

I'm not grinding for shinies and stuff But I actually

46:20

thought it was really cool and

46:22

I did get one and and I get

46:24

it You know, I get the specialness of

46:26

that and I think it's

46:28

great I think the fact that it's

46:30

rare There's so many my reaction to reading basically

46:32

some some tweets and it said or people are

46:34

like, I don't know They need to buff it and

46:37

then they did and like that's fine They probably did

46:39

because I haven't been grinding. I'm not an expert on

46:41

how worth it feels But the

46:43

fact that it is so rare and

46:45

special that is what always made like

46:47

the exotics originally and some other ones

46:49

great And so I think

46:51

it's great They brought that back and my point

46:54

I'm leaving is like look we all want that

46:56

stuff and you want to feel the reward For

46:58

the time you spend and it's a tricky balance

47:00

with like keeping it special when there's so many

47:02

good guns in destiny Like you're not really missing

47:05

out if you don't get a shiny midnight coup

47:07

Like you will

47:09

still get a good midnight coup if you log

47:11

in and try it'll be pretty good, you know

47:13

Yeah, and then you'll move on to like whatever

47:15

the next thing is. But again, you want to

47:17

keep it special without like Filling

47:19

up, you know your vault with a bunch of shinies. That's how

47:22

I feel. Yeah, that's a good point

47:24

filling stuff up. I I See

47:27

I was on the side of liking

47:30

the crafted stuff a lot because I

47:32

tinker with things so much and like

47:34

getting right a Perf and RNG can

47:36

be so frustrating to

47:38

if you're looking for a certain role on something

47:40

and you play like I did I did the

47:43

dungeon a little while ago the Last dungeon that

47:45

was released looking for the Strand bow for just

47:47

literally two perks together And the perk pool was

47:49

like a five by five column and I didn't

47:52

care about the rest of it just two perks

47:54

together I got that weapon to drop over 70

47:58

times and never got that Food

48:00

perk combo and like the odds were that I would have got it

48:02

one out of 40 or something I don't remember what it was, but

48:04

it was like I should have gotten it and It's

48:07

just RNG can just be bad sometimes and I

48:09

don't want to spend I just want

48:11

to play the game That's fun and some and

48:13

that for me means just crafting a thing and

48:15

then going and playing the game And

48:18

but I also understand the drive to like

48:20

get the shiny and do the thing and

48:22

so I think it's Interesting that

48:24

we've kind of evolved into like well,

48:27

maybe crafted is fine

48:29

for this like one set of Seasonal

48:31

weapons or whatever, but we need to have

48:33

those things to chase after two and maybe

48:35

there's a balance there. Yep Yeah,

48:38

I think that's exactly it. I think going

48:40

back to crafted I felt like that's what

48:43

we immediately heard from people against it. It

48:45

just like it wasn't special Anymore,

48:47

they wanted it to be special whereas I was

48:50

like on the other side of my I'm glad

48:52

this stuff's here but I don't have the time

48:54

personally or I don't want to make the time

48:56

to Get the

48:58

red borders and level it up and

49:00

like I just want to play the game to

49:02

use your words And

49:04

I yeah, I don't think there's a right or wrong I think you need

49:07

kind of both like you're getting at is like you have

49:09

enough Some crafting and whatnot to

49:11

solve some problems is like the way I

49:13

would put it like yeah, I need a

49:15

good glaive I need a good hand cannon.

49:18

Okay, these you can go craft But not

49:20

like all the good stuff that go earn

49:22

that stuff Right, and then I would

49:24

love it to have both and then of

49:26

course for the third thing gave me some

49:28

gear management So I can chase this stuff

49:30

without doing homework every time I go through

49:33

three strikes or whatever I

49:35

don't personally like crafting I think I

49:37

would like crafting more if it was

49:39

like you said Fran the case of

49:41

like This is a

49:43

protection of really bad RNG and

49:46

that you can't get like enhanced perks or

49:48

any of that It's just hey you can

49:50

make a role that is eventually you'll be

49:52

able to get the role that you want

49:55

But because all of the in

49:57

crafted weapons are gonna be better than any

50:00

ROPS that you get. If you

50:02

get a God roll that's perfect, five out

50:04

of five, it completely takes away the excitement

50:07

of that God roll. It's just gone. You're like,

50:09

well, this will do for now until I can

50:11

get my enhanced crafted weapon. So

50:14

I think crafting really killed a lot

50:16

of desire for me at all with

50:18

Destiny because it's, it's just,

50:20

there's just no, there's no excitement with getting loot

50:22

anymore, really at all. It's like, oh, I got

50:24

a red border, two more to go. I got

50:27

a red border, three more to go. It's never like,

50:30

it just never feels like you're having that

50:32

big dopamine payoff

50:35

for me anymore. So I've been

50:37

playing onsop more than I've played Destiny in the

50:39

last like five months or so.

50:41

Because it's, I can get weapons to drop.

50:43

Well, the activity is, is an enjoyable activity

50:45

because shooting things in Destiny is fun. It's

50:47

always a good time. But

50:51

yeah, actually trying to look for

50:53

rolls is, is really nice. I've

50:55

enjoyed looking for rolls again. Yeah,

50:57

I think it's a matter of how much and where

50:59

they put the power. Yeah, absolutely.

51:02

Minecrafting because it's funny because I don't participate

51:04

in it. Again, I don't make the time

51:06

for it. It's not enjoyable to me. So

51:09

when I'm getting a really nice drop,

51:11

it actually feels special. It's

51:14

just that I know that there's so many

51:16

other good options. And I think that's what

51:18

they struggle against is there's so many good

51:20

guns and stuff. And frankly, I have a

51:22

ton of my vault and it's like without

51:24

proper sun setting, sorry, I have to say

51:27

it, you have all this great

51:29

stuff that you don't want to get rid of

51:31

that they do want to keep pretty good. And

51:33

it's like they're launching new perks and stuff and

51:35

like it is a little bit better. But you're

51:37

like for the time, and

51:39

enjoy it. You're like, at least that's where I'm

51:41

at with it. Yeah, I play very differently. You

51:44

know, there's this this group of folks, of course,

51:46

who are like, I have to have the absolute

51:48

top elitist best roles perks. And those

51:51

folks are grinded, which is great. But

51:54

for me, I really enjoy the gameplay and

51:56

logging in and teaming up with friends and

51:59

within reason. let's call it and because

52:01

of that I don't really

52:03

like to grind for weapons that often

52:05

anymore. That ship has sailed and I'm glad

52:08

it has sailed personally. I play Destiny for the

52:10

game. I don't want to grind stuff. I don't

52:12

want to grind for weapons that is. My reason

52:15

to log in should be like onslaught is really

52:17

fun. Have you gotten a wave 25 and wave

52:19

50 because man it's really cool or have you

52:21

gotten that moment? That's why

52:23

I play personally. I

52:25

don't want to be like dude you have

52:27

to grind the loot cave so you get the

52:29

best role. Yeah. I'm over it. Yeah

52:33

I hear you. That's kind of my mix as

52:35

well. That was my whole point

52:37

getting in the conversation is like

52:39

the fun of playing the game

52:41

versus like the enjoyment and that

52:44

dopamine hit of getting that drop.

52:46

It's like two different ways of

52:48

playing almost. Yeah. I've

52:50

enjoyed onslaught more just because it is fun to

52:52

play it. It's just like an activity where there's

52:54

a bunch of ads and you get to shoot

52:56

stuff and mess around with builds and that's a

52:59

good time. So yeah

53:01

it's not just been extrinsic rewards for

53:03

me. It's just Destiny for me lost

53:05

both. It

53:07

lost the intrinsic I'm having fun and

53:09

it also lost the extrinsic of I

53:11

want to hunt for my god role.

53:13

Like the most that I've played Destiny

53:16

in the last two years has been

53:18

onslaught and before that it was

53:20

when the strand trace

53:23

rifle came out to trials. I played so much

53:25

trials because I wanted the role that I wanted

53:27

on the strand trace rifle but

53:29

yeah outside of that I'm like there

53:32

just wasn't a whole lot going on. Yeah

53:34

to me onslaught

53:36

and some of their seasonal activities but

53:38

they're usually not they don't quite

53:41

hit but there's been some okay ones but

53:43

those prove that like that's

53:45

where I think there's a ton of

53:48

room for Destiny to grow which is

53:50

yeah like for PvE right there's lost

53:52

sectors and there's dungeons and raids and

53:54

like there's just a certain amount of

53:56

complexity and like missions and honestly it's

53:58

all fun but it's very different. than

54:00

I would use Helldivers 2 as a

54:02

great example, or even Diablo Dungeons. It's

54:05

very easy to matchmake into some of this

54:08

stuff, and you just kinda like, you

54:10

zone out, but you don't because it's so fun, you know what

54:12

I mean? Helldivers

54:14

2 is like that, it's instant gratification,

54:17

and I could absolutely imagine more,

54:20

just take Helldivers 2, it's like

54:23

mini-maps, slightly open world, and

54:25

you were just slaying out with

54:27

your abilities, and it's somewhat

54:30

uncomplicated, and it's just an

54:32

extraction as well. Anyway, I think if you

54:34

look at all the stuff that's out there,

54:36

there's a lot of room for Destiny 2

54:38

to still add that stuff. It's

54:41

because we have so much fatigue on all these other

54:43

things. It's not that Lost Sectors and all this isn't

54:45

fun, it's just their format I've done so

54:47

much of. You know what I mean? Or if you wanna

54:49

do a dungeon array, it's kinda complex to get in and

54:51

get it done right, and so finding

54:53

more stuff in between that is

54:55

not as diet soda as seasonal

54:58

activities, I think is where we

55:00

need to get to in Destiny.

55:03

It's amazing how many things came together to

55:05

make this a popular mode, to get Watts

55:08

playing so much of it. It

55:11

is a different kind of activity, it's

55:13

that fun, crazy weight base, but also

55:15

really easy to get into, but also

55:17

loot that gives the dopamine hit, and

55:19

it's just a combination of all the

55:21

things that Destiny does best, and it's

55:24

nice to see that. It

55:26

really is, yeah. The only problem

55:29

is Onslaught, 50 wave legendary, hurts my

55:31

hands. I don't

55:33

know what it is, but I've talked to a

55:35

lot of people who are also like, yeah, it

55:37

hurts my hands too, and I

55:39

think it's because you're- People are throwing

55:41

too many balls. Well, yeah, you're spinning

55:44

around grabbing balls, you're shooting like a

55:46

billion things. Like there's a lot of

55:48

interacting with the game often

55:52

for a long period, because runs are like an

55:54

hour of that, so you're like

55:56

an hour of kind of just nonstop, running

55:58

and grabbing and shooting and throwing. and turn and

56:00

it's I think it

56:02

ends up wearing your hands out and I think

56:05

there's also situations where it gets pretty dicey so

56:07

you're kind of gripping controllers more and

56:09

that you kind of interesting point is

56:11

there's like no orbit not really a

56:13

break there's look at it depending on

56:15

the map but because the waves just

56:17

keep coming yeah you unlike so

56:20

many games and just destiny that you don't get

56:22

a break that's interesting so it's

56:24

like two hours two runs two hours I'm like

56:26

oh hurt a little bit but

56:30

it's also kind of nice to have

56:32

that option in destiny like we don't

56:34

really have that much and there's

56:37

times like right now 50 wave isn't very

56:39

rewarding but they're patching that week

56:42

and I'm kind of listening with

56:44

that because I'm loving current bungee of being like

56:46

we've heard you here's what we're thinking of

56:48

doing or we've heard you we can't give you

56:50

all of that but here's a compromise we're gonna

56:53

do they've done they've done really well with communication

56:55

and making those adjustments I'm excited to grind

56:58

that that 50 level 50 because it is

57:00

like a different mode where you just kind

57:02

of zone out and you're like I'm just

57:04

doing this thing I'm not going to orbit

57:06

it's just I'm always fighting I'm

57:08

always doing the thing that is fun I

57:16

think if anything else happened this

57:18

I feel like those are like the big oh there

57:20

was one really big thing and

57:23

that is they released the they

57:25

changed the raid date to

57:27

be earlier I didn't

57:30

even see the raid date you know what's funny that

57:33

you say that is I thought we knew it was on

57:35

a Friday but for some reason I

57:37

was like well I guess we didn't know the date but wait

57:39

we did they did tell us

57:41

the date before didn't they yeah

57:43

so a lot of people are like wait

57:46

why are you doing it three days after

57:48

the launch that's old school three days yeah

57:50

yeah now

57:53

it is June 7th we should get that

57:55

out there it's three days after yeah it's

57:57

a Friday kind of like before I

57:59

don't think We know the hour whether it'll be

58:01

like a they're staying far away from Elden

58:03

ring. That's what yeah, they're saying 10 a.m.

58:06

Pacific time That's an

58:08

interesting point. Oh did they say

58:10

the time? Yeah. Oh, they did you're right Yeah,

58:12

raid will launch June 7 at but there's

58:14

no power level increase right for this There

58:17

usually is on a usually is yeah

58:19

for big DLCs And

58:22

there was that thing to end down like you

58:24

got to go back to the file they they have

58:26

that new Raid

58:29

power balancing thing they talked about right where

58:31

depending on our levels on the team But

58:33

it wasn't like you took their max level

58:35

it was like Close

58:37

to it or something which

58:39

I assume and you know they'll get into the more detail

58:41

in the future We don't even know the name of the

58:43

raid Which I don't know if they'll

58:45

reveal given the oh maybe well

58:48

lots of people are speculating that the reason they're

58:50

moving it up is because it has to do

58:52

with the story of like Probably

58:54

campaign and like you know if they

58:57

want reviews out for the expansion They

58:59

want everyone to get their hands on that within

59:01

like the first week being able to play the

59:04

raid, you know Yeah,

59:06

I don't know here I'm very curious about

59:08

the raid because they have mentioned that they want

59:11

Everyone playing it and they kind of need

59:13

everyone playing it because it's such a pivotal

59:15

part of the story and I'm like well

59:17

It can't just be fireteam finder that makes

59:19

that happen like it has to surely be

59:21

something else That kind of allows you

59:23

to get involved with the raid even if you're not doing

59:25

the full raid But allowing you to get

59:27

involved so I wonder yep. Yeah,

59:30

I mean I had very visceral Tons

59:32

of reaction to this so whenever you guys want

59:34

I'll Yeah, we

59:36

do a lot of thing to what Watts is saying like I

59:39

don't want to like get my height My

59:41

height meter too high, you know But

59:43

like whenever you say it that way it almost

59:45

sounds like is this gonna be like a community

59:47

event For the rate

59:50

like what what is happening that they

59:52

need everyone there to do it

59:54

three days after like Grind,

59:57

you know, yeah. Yeah I

1:00:00

mean I have the got away from that as well

1:00:02

like this right grind They've really

1:00:04

good to me that's the first question of

1:00:06

focus on is do you guys feel like you

1:00:08

care when the date of the Rate is and

1:00:11

why are you you know does it concern you that

1:00:13

it's only three days after or you're like I? Don't

1:00:16

know if you feel you already answered, but I like

1:00:18

watching it so I I

1:00:21

know a lot of people I need to

1:00:23

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I still get appreciation out of it. Yeah,

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if I could, I would cause that was

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It was just, it was a really good time. Yeah.

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It's so funny. Like I

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think that's a great option, but

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I feel like you're saying all the wrong things, which is

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like, that is, and again, you

1:03:55

know, being sarcastic here, but like, it's

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that's the direction it's gone. To me. It

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has become exactly what you said. I actually

1:04:02

had tweeted about this. I'm like, it's become

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a marketing event Yeah, so I'm like contest

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mode exists to watch they're looking at how

1:04:09

many Concurrence they get more

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than then I mean this is again

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sweat hyperbole But like how many people

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really and not getting it spoiled and

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being part of the game and I'm

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like it's more about like this day

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and honestly, it's become a huge marketing

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event To me I proposed

1:04:32

and go ahead. Sorry. No, no, go ahead. I was

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just like, yeah I

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feel like Bungie has all the tools they

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need to make it both right? Which is

1:04:43

like if yeah, it's like I have to

1:04:45

watch it, right? But it

1:04:48

does create a problem when you split the community

1:04:51

With contest modes and you deplete, you know

1:04:53

people like people jump off your team and

1:04:56

they're like forget it You know, I'm gonna

1:04:58

get a carry and you know Go

1:05:01

find another team because like of the way

1:05:03

that contest mode is so anyway to simplify

1:05:05

things Number

1:05:07

one to touch on what you talked about the

1:05:09

power per hour needs to be reasonable Which is

1:05:12

like look if you want to have the raid

1:05:14

on Friday, like frankly three days after I don't

1:05:16

care I think that's hype. Let's go what I

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don't want you to do is when you write

1:05:21

down I made up power per hour But like when

1:05:23

you when I'm acting like I'm budget when you write

1:05:25

it down in your spreadsheet You know

1:05:27

what on average most players you only have

1:05:29

to play like five hours a day, you know

1:05:31

Tuesday to Thursday That's like 15 hours and then

1:05:33

you can hop in the raid when it launches

1:05:36

Friday morning 15 hours of like

1:05:38

whatever I'm just making that up. But

1:05:40

like that's reasonable five hours a

1:05:42

day is still like people have lives So

1:05:44

another words how they a lot if you got

1:05:47

a fucking job in a kid. He totally is

1:05:50

And that's pretty average But like anyway make

1:05:53

it even better than that and like my

1:05:55

point is you can still do a contest

1:05:57

mode and have that elite race by having

1:06:00

doing contest mode, launch it with

1:06:02

contest mode on day one, but

1:06:04

be ready. And that's the big thing I've always

1:06:06

talked about and wanted is like, I want somebody

1:06:08

on that button when they're like, we've got in

1:06:11

the top 10, we're confirming the first one, the

1:06:13

first one's in, day one, you know, top 10

1:06:15

are in, we've got other people completing it, boom,

1:06:17

we just launched normal mode as well. Like, because

1:06:20

the point is the raids out there already, it's

1:06:22

done. Oh, that's a fair point, Fran. I like

1:06:24

that idea. I feel like that's gonna happen. Like

1:06:27

I, they've done something like that.

1:06:29

No, listen, listen, they did it

1:06:31

before with taking, or not thinking

1:06:33

with Forsaken. They finished the

1:06:35

raid, the first team finished, and then

1:06:38

a whole new area opened up for

1:06:40

everyone. That was in the

1:06:42

Dreaming City, but that's true. They launched a part

1:06:44

of the game based on it. Yeah,

1:06:46

exactly, but it happened right away. And

1:06:49

if they did that, like, I can

1:06:51

see that happening and that being the

1:06:53

reason. But with unlocking normal mode is

1:06:56

what you're talking about? Because that's all I'm talking about. I

1:06:59

would like, I think you're right, you probably won't

1:07:01

do that, but I would like to, I agree

1:07:03

with you, I would like to see it. I

1:07:06

would like to see it. The reason I'm skeptical

1:07:08

is because Contest Mode has been seemingly like a

1:07:10

weird server-side like exclusive thing that like, because it

1:07:12

goes away. And everybody after every year now, we

1:07:15

always think. Why does it go away? Exactly.

1:07:17

Why can't we just keep Contest Mode? Yes. Didn't

1:07:20

they say they were looking to keep it? They were looking for it.

1:07:22

Am I crazy? Like, did they talk

1:07:24

about it and they were looking into how to

1:07:26

keep it active? I don't know. How long ago

1:07:28

was that? And do those people even still work at Bungie? Yeah.

1:07:32

Yeah, I mean, so again, like, I think

1:07:34

we could agree, right? Like that could be

1:07:36

cool. Because again, like what I want is

1:07:38

options to not only

1:07:40

be an elitist pay-per-view, watch-only

1:07:42

event and like we've participated,

1:07:44

you know, Lego, have you

1:07:46

participated in those first? We

1:07:49

have. Like, Breyer and Watts, like,

1:07:51

I don't think it's crazy

1:07:53

to say. We never for once

1:07:55

thought we would come anywhere close

1:07:57

to being in like the top.

1:08:00

But it was fun. We were top 100 for yeah, but taking king No,

1:08:06

we're yeah, we're away. No way.

1:08:08

Yeah We were we

1:08:10

weren't yeah, okay, maybe do is the

1:08:12

numbers but like meaning it's I was

1:08:14

pretty good Fran We're

1:08:20

pro gamers, but my point is we

1:08:22

slid downhill pretty hard pretty quickly Well

1:08:25

because there's so many teams that play,

1:08:27

you know truthfully every week now They're

1:08:30

just like super skilled. They know the

1:08:32

builds have become very complex and And

1:08:35

I think that's great. By the way, it is it if

1:08:37

I wanted to spoil the gameplay

1:08:39

and like watch it would be a fun

1:08:41

watch So

1:08:43

anyway, just to finish up my rant

1:08:46

here It's like I think that would be nice again

1:08:48

once the top ten are top one on Bungie needs

1:08:50

to have a lever in place It says to kind

1:08:53

of like you were talking about experiencing Lego

1:08:56

Oh, we've unlocked normal mode if

1:08:58

you want to back off and get your team through

1:09:00

We've just got normal mode for you and it's still

1:09:02

hard. It's balanced, you know, they've tested it. Hopefully that's

1:09:04

the case Otherwise if you want

1:09:06

to continue on contests awesome, and we've got some

1:09:08

exclusive rewards for you and emblem or whatever And

1:09:11

you could still have both it, you know,

1:09:13

whatever it takes to do it I would

1:09:15

love to see that and again My goal

1:09:17

is like keep your team together keep playing

1:09:19

like like Watts was just getting

1:09:22

at I think we're that group We've been

1:09:24

playing destiny for a decade. We're happy to

1:09:26

log in We don't want to have to go out

1:09:28

at 10 wills server problems and the time zone So

1:09:30

I don't want stuff spoiled though So I'm not gonna

1:09:33

watch and we log in and

1:09:35

we get together for eight hours and hopefully in

1:09:37

a reasonable amount of time for Experience players you

1:09:39

finish it but otherwise split it into a few days

1:09:41

even and but that you can

1:09:44

without having to wait For your

1:09:46

team to get in. I don't know. I love the idea I

1:09:49

frankly, I love the idea I have in contest mode

1:09:51

and normal mode launch on day one I don't if

1:09:53

you don't want to be in the contest mode why

1:09:56

force people to Do it

1:09:58

just do the normal mode like right from

1:10:00

the launch if you get a feel.

1:10:02

Well, the spoilers, the spoilers is the

1:10:04

biggest issue. Okay. Like mechanics spoilers.

1:10:06

That's the only reason. But I'm with you

1:10:09

in philosophy. Alright, so like top 10 teams

1:10:11

do it like you said, and then bang,

1:10:13

normal mode opens up. Everybody else can, doesn't

1:10:15

have to like suffer through contest mode who

1:10:17

doesn't want to. Some people do want to

1:10:19

though, some people really like that challenge. Yeah.

1:10:23

So leave it open. Me too, I don't want to go back

1:10:25

to it and like try those things. But

1:10:27

like you want to learn the mechanics first sometimes and then go

1:10:29

back. Like there's more replay value

1:10:31

there that I think they give it credit for. Again,

1:10:34

it's a weird setup that they invented contest

1:10:36

mode. I remember talking about wanting something like

1:10:39

it when this whole power power thing came

1:10:41

up to solve some of these issues of

1:10:44

where should people be at. And then they're like, you know what? Let's

1:10:46

just level the playing field. So they

1:10:48

fixed it, but then it's always been this weird

1:10:50

like it's not a mode that exists. It goes

1:10:52

away. So… I don't

1:10:54

know. I think it's a great mode and I really

1:10:56

like the competition of the thing. Now that if I

1:10:59

was, if I still was day one

1:11:01

rating, then you know, I

1:11:03

wouldn't watch obviously other teams do it. But

1:11:05

now that I'm not doing it, like I

1:11:07

enjoy watching the race. I,

1:11:09

you know, I watched

1:11:12

Datto with the like two minute or two

1:11:14

seconds over the time limit thing. And I

1:11:16

was like, I find that to be enthralling.

1:11:18

You know, I was like, oh my God,

1:11:20

they're so close. They're so close. Like,

1:11:23

I don't know. It's a lot of fun. The

1:11:25

raid stuff has been amazing to give them credit for

1:11:27

that. We like, I think

1:11:30

it's been amazing how big Destiny

1:11:32

raids have become and what that has done

1:11:34

for gaming across the board. Like

1:11:36

the fact we talked about Ghost of Tsushima getting a

1:11:39

raid. It wasn't about a raid race,

1:11:41

but like, I don't know that it would exist without

1:11:43

these raid races because it. Which by the way is getting

1:11:45

cross play. Yes, it is. It is? Ghost

1:11:48

of Tsushima is going to have cross play. Cross

1:11:50

play? Nope. No,

1:11:52

not that we've seen. They didn't say no, I don't think,

1:11:54

but I haven't talked about it. Okay. But

1:11:57

they are launching cross trophies. Cross

1:12:00

trophies, yeah, cross play. So you can load

1:12:02

up your like kid it out Legends

1:12:05

character and go play with people on. So

1:12:08

to cap that off, my last request

1:12:10

was what Lego hit on. Funnily enough,

1:12:12

I do love the idea. And

1:12:15

this is where it gets tricky. I did

1:12:17

think because it's so soon that they're like, you

1:12:19

know what? We got to cap this story off.

1:12:21

And like, it's going to be a

1:12:23

bigger conclusion, I think with the end of the reign.

1:12:25

You have a weird scenario though, where the top 1%.

1:12:29

Even half percent of the entire player base

1:12:31

is going to see the end before they

1:12:33

now what launch you into a cut scene

1:12:35

when you log in and change the world.

1:12:38

Maybe so, however, it,

1:12:41

you know, if it changed the world, I don't

1:12:43

know like how to handle that, but all I

1:12:45

can say is I'm tired of logging in for

1:12:47

day two, which has happened, um,

1:12:49

or just taking a break and coming

1:12:51

back and you get hit with a

1:12:53

freaking cut scene spoiler mandatory. It's not

1:12:55

even like the world, the raid has

1:12:57

been completed. And something bigs in

1:12:59

store. Would you like to see it? Or would

1:13:02

you like to finish the raid? Yeah,

1:13:04

I've been playing it for six hours. So anyway,

1:13:06

I would love like you did not shove

1:13:09

that in my face. As cool as that

1:13:11

moment is. It's a really weird thing to

1:13:13

spoil for the entire community with no option

1:13:15

really. Um, and

1:13:18

you can't even like go back and watch that without going

1:13:20

to YouTube after. And so anyway, if they

1:13:22

could, I, right. I feel like they have the tools to

1:13:24

do this stuff. The final shape. I talk

1:13:26

about quality of life. I'd love to see

1:13:28

that again. I think the elite side is

1:13:30

cool. I just want to be a hundred percent

1:13:33

clear. Don't get rid of the raid race because

1:13:35

it's awesome, but don't treat the raid as only

1:13:37

a, um, a raid race. It is so visionary

1:13:39

and so cool. Like the music in deep stone

1:13:42

crib when we heard it for the first time,

1:13:44

like I want to be there as a team

1:13:46

with you guys, ideally, and not personally

1:13:49

just watching someone and, or being

1:13:51

carried by someone just to get it done because

1:13:53

my team is like, I just can't do this

1:13:55

guys. And I'm out. So. Day

1:14:00

one to learn raids actually because you you

1:14:02

have no one knows what they're doing and

1:14:04

then you're learning it like right then And

1:14:06

there so I find that I actually just

1:14:09

am better at the raid if I've done

1:14:11

a day one and can just learn it

1:14:13

for myself Yeah, if I haven't done

1:14:15

the day one and learned it for myself and like

1:14:17

somebody has to like Like

1:14:20

I pulled me through I never

1:14:22

really ever learn it correctly Same

1:14:26

Whatever where do you want me to

1:14:28

stand? Yeah,

1:14:32

yeah, I mean I I might

1:14:34

be different I genuinely really love

1:14:37

To learn and figure out things and like it's always

1:14:39

tricky when you have a team anyway like somebody's noticing

1:14:41

something before you and like It's in a way. It's

1:14:43

a spoiler because like they figured it out. I like

1:14:45

you didn't even get to look at that thing Like

1:14:48

that's what it is. It's fine, but I'd rather still

1:14:50

have it be that way you

1:14:52

know, I always bring up the story around forsaken

1:14:54

and Somehow manage

1:14:57

we I forget if I played with you guys or

1:14:59

no, I think it was some other folks

1:15:01

but yeah, we got locked out it

1:15:04

was too difficult and I Didn't

1:15:07

I just tapped out for a while because I couldn't

1:15:09

find anybody to play with that wasn't gonna spoil it

1:15:11

for me But I managed to stay blind on it

1:15:14

and it was like in December of that year I

1:15:16

got a team back together was willing to like sit

1:15:18

there. I guess I was busy too I had to

1:15:20

like catch up and but anyway It

1:15:22

was so cool and I managed to do it

1:15:24

without knowing anything and people were like you

1:15:26

really don't know what happened You know, like no,

1:15:29

it's freaking awesome Yeah,

1:15:31

so I love that I mean

1:15:33

I always like gameplay so that's that's why I'm so

1:15:35

passionate about it I don't want to take away the

1:15:37

the elite side of all this other stuff. I think

1:15:39

you can have both I agree with

1:15:41

everything you're saying I do think that I hope

1:15:44

that they try to do what they did in

1:15:46

forsaken where they had something for the players that

1:15:48

They just don't there's so many people that don't

1:15:50

won't even touch the raid That's just not their

1:15:53

thing and they don't want to be asked to

1:15:55

and to have something for them When the raid

1:15:57

was completed look at this area you can now

1:15:59

explore or look at all these things that opened up.

1:16:01

Like that was just such an

1:16:03

amazing experience for those players that, you

1:16:06

know, normally didn't get to interact with the whole

1:16:08

community in that way. And

1:16:10

I do hope that they do something like

1:16:13

this. And I have to think that having

1:16:15

it so close to

1:16:17

launch date, it's gotta be something going

1:16:19

on. I think so. Yeah,

1:16:21

and I think also, we

1:16:24

didn't maybe touch on it, but I do

1:16:26

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About recapturing, which we, recapturing

1:17:33

the hype of the early days, which

1:17:35

we're seeing a lot of right now, and I'm feeling like

1:17:37

it could have been also part of like, guys, we

1:17:39

just gotta go back to that moment. Go

1:17:41

back. Everybody. You know what I mean?

1:17:43

I feel like that's part of it too, and it

1:17:45

just made sense. They're like, you know what, screw it.

1:17:48

Yes. As long as we

1:17:50

don't go back to Crown of Sorrow's six hour prep

1:17:52

time, and then 24 hour doing

1:17:55

the raid, that was

1:17:57

rough. Those call outs

1:17:59

were rough. That one that was that

1:18:01

was a tough yeah, it's a tough raid.

1:18:03

Yeah, everyone had to do there do their things

1:18:06

Yeah, I got a lot of test lectures

1:18:08

on that one my favorite Oh, you did that would

1:18:10

be that was the origin of the cat lecture. It

1:18:13

was Look here. That's how

1:18:15

it all starts put your tether

1:18:17

right here Yeah,

1:18:22

you miss him yeah, I I

1:18:26

Remember listening to that and say good man.

1:18:28

I'm glad I'm sitting over here with Joker

1:18:30

who's just completely carry Probably

1:18:34

one man every rain Yeah,

1:18:38

I mean you leaned into the mean

1:18:40

but it was it was fun I'm

1:18:44

excited though. I mean as

1:18:47

much ranting as I did I'm just cuz

1:18:49

again I'm very excited like I got I

1:18:51

didn't say this part either But ironically

1:18:54

even when they're the toughest like the raids are

1:18:56

some of the most memorable times But

1:18:59

it's because of coming together for me and

1:19:01

experiencing the vision and the gameplay In

1:19:04

a moment and that's what I don't want to take it away for

1:19:06

me for other people It is like

1:19:08

the elite ism and the difficulty which again, I

1:19:10

think if you can nail both Awesome,

1:19:13

but can't wait to see it I mean if

1:19:15

you if you were just to say that part where

1:19:17

you're like ten years of make in the making Destiny's

1:19:20

best raid yet. Like when

1:19:23

you think about it's got to be that I Mean,

1:19:27

it's gotta be no more Right.

1:19:29

So it should be pretty rad I'm

1:19:33

excited. Yeah, I Guess

1:19:37

I put this into the 12 that that

1:19:39

was the first part of the 12 is saved the date for

1:19:43

June 7th 10 a.m. Pacific time raid

1:19:46

They haven't named it yet. They also

1:19:48

have some clan updates. So

1:19:50

I guess Hawthorne's

1:19:54

getting a new vendor reputation

1:19:56

right track Clan

1:20:00

bounties are getting some love with nightfall bounties.

1:20:02

Don't longer requiring clan level six to

1:20:04

claim them There also be

1:20:06

new bounty types one for seasonal content and

1:20:09

one for dungeons all clan bounties

1:20:11

will also grant some reputation

1:20:18

Yeah together

1:20:20

again Like a reason to

1:20:23

actually go to Hawthorne and do these things

1:20:25

because it's pretty minimal right now It's not

1:20:27

really a reason to go over there unless

1:20:29

you needed a powerful something and

1:20:31

now it's like oh you can actually Like

1:20:33

raid banners cost less. Everybody loves raid banners, you

1:20:35

know stuff like that. It's kind of nice So

1:20:38

and there's one that like grants

1:20:40

spoils of conquest for the raid

1:20:43

rotator challenges. So I

1:20:45

mean I'll take that Yep. Yeah,

1:20:47

I think paired with fire team finder, which we'll talk

1:20:49

about in this update to you It

1:20:52

makes total sense You're like, yeah like what about the

1:20:54

people who just want to raid and and

1:20:56

I hope that fire team finder aids in that

1:20:58

because it's been the Biggest challenge there but it

1:21:00

sounds like a natural progression to get vendor

1:21:03

rank upgrades the same system roughly that

1:21:05

you're used to seeing Yeah

1:21:09

Yeah, I miss you. Mr. Fire team finders moving out of

1:21:11

beta. Yeah a whole list of things

1:21:13

that they're changing, right? Yeah,

1:21:16

I mean I Really

1:21:18

wish on this list. It was does

1:21:20

not end your party like whenever you

1:21:22

actually launched the activity I'm like, how

1:21:25

is that a thing still? I like

1:21:28

we've had it for so long and like why

1:21:30

do I have to? Make

1:21:32

a new listing for every activity. Why can't

1:21:34

I just keep playing and inviting the Lego?

1:21:36

They added emoji to listing titles Like

1:21:42

that is kind of helpful because it's people

1:21:44

I will say I will say on the

1:21:46

listing you know grinding

1:21:48

for a farming you can tag it

1:21:50

farming and Encounter one and

1:21:52

people still will like are we not doing the whole thing?

1:21:55

Did you look at that? People

1:21:59

did not read Even though it would help

1:22:01

them like immensely if they were to just read

1:22:03

things Yeah, I mean

1:22:05

that's gonna happen in it, but I

1:22:08

yeah I've been very happy with fire team

1:22:10

finders direction and I think they

1:22:12

pushed it out sooner out of beta than they planned

1:22:14

Right, I mean and just

1:22:16

out in the wild sooner. So um, yeah

1:22:18

I mean they the short list right was

1:22:20

desi companion app and bungee net got this

1:22:23

integrated now It used to have different fire

1:22:25

fire team finder to oh, I saw that.

1:22:27

Yeah. Yeah I pulled the

1:22:29

app up actually I was like, oh it is the same

1:22:31

You know if you go you can

1:22:34

browse all I can search for activities

1:22:36

So actually using your phone might seem

1:22:38

viable like here if I just type it onslaught

1:22:40

I'm doing it live. Can you join right from

1:22:43

your phone and it'll just like if you're in

1:22:45

orbit? Yeah, I believe it ties in I believe

1:22:47

because that's how it used to work. Even my tech man

1:22:51

Yeah, I see two listings. I

1:22:53

see two scheduled listings. So it's

1:22:55

it's on the right track Damn,

1:22:57

um, they say they've updated the

1:22:59

roster tabs display 12 players on

1:23:01

each per page of them I

1:23:04

didn't know you could schedule listings. I I

1:23:06

was that it's kind of cool. They

1:23:08

just added that somewhat recently Yes, you can

1:23:11

be like Saturday the rain. I mean in

1:23:13

theory you can schedule on June 8th Like

1:23:15

I can't play Friday. I'm working. I'm getting

1:23:17

a team together like in

1:23:19

theory. It will all be added and we'll be

1:23:22

there Um, they

1:23:24

generally improve screen to screen to

1:23:26

screen flow improved

1:23:28

feedback when submitting applications legibility

1:23:30

improvements clear indication of pending

1:23:33

applications for leaders Adding

1:23:35

emojis like Briar said and then we

1:23:37

know they added zero hour in

1:23:39

there and I Trevor

1:23:42

Very good. God, why don't we get the name

1:23:44

of the Trevor quest that's coming up? Um, there

1:23:47

are oh that is zero Oh Wait,

1:23:52

how is that in there? It's not yet. No,

1:23:54

it's not. No, it's just an option But whisper

1:23:56

the worm I assume is in there the whispers. I assume is

1:23:59

in there too And

1:24:01

onslaught's in there. So anyway, long story short, I

1:24:03

think it's in the right direction. I would love

1:24:05

to see it more on the front of the

1:24:08

director for Destiny, which I hope to get

1:24:10

more people to give it a shot. Because even you guys –

1:24:12

I mean, we do a podcast every week, and it is amazing.

1:24:15

We're all like, oh, really? Just

1:24:18

push more people into it because, yeah, I

1:24:20

just search for onslaught, and I

1:24:22

don't know if it's accurate, but it doesn't

1:24:24

look like there's a lot of listings, and you've got to

1:24:26

ask why. Like, there are a lot of people. There never

1:24:29

is. I went to do a Legend one, actually, because I

1:24:31

didn't have anyone – everybody was grouped up already, and I

1:24:33

was like, oh, maybe I'll use Fireteam Finder and just see

1:24:35

if I could just do Level 10. And

1:24:39

then, you know, that's it. And there

1:24:41

was one listing, and

1:24:43

it filled up pretty quick. And so on

1:24:46

the phone app, on the Bungie app,

1:24:48

you can go use the old

1:24:50

version. And so I clicked that, tons

1:24:52

of listings. People,

1:24:55

like, farm in, loop, you know, loop in up

1:24:57

to 10 on Legend. And so I just joined

1:24:59

that and did it for, like, three hours. But

1:25:02

where is the old one? Because, like, they should

1:25:04

get rid of it. I

1:25:06

think it's because people like using that one

1:25:08

because you can still write text. You can

1:25:10

say specifically what you're doing. Are you sure

1:25:12

it's Guild there? Like, I don't know. Yeah,

1:25:14

I used it, yeah. Huh.

1:25:17

Like, I thought it used – anyway, I thought it used

1:25:19

to be under Fireteam's on the phone app, and now it's

1:25:21

just the Fireteam Finder beta as far as I see. But

1:25:24

maybe it's in there. But anyway, I

1:25:27

think it's great. Yeah, use

1:25:29

it for Onslaught Legend. It would be a good solution. I

1:25:31

just saw three listings that said, like, chill, patient. I'm like,

1:25:33

this is what we need more of. Oh, yeah,

1:25:37

find Fireteam Legacy. Legacy? Oh, it's

1:25:41

at the top. Yeah. And

1:25:44

don't – okay, yeah, they got to

1:25:46

fix that somehow. Maybe it's transition period.

1:25:49

But it's probably good because there's

1:25:51

tons of people who use it already, so. But

1:25:55

anyway. Also

1:26:00

a breakdown of all of the

1:26:02

content planned leading up to the

1:26:04

final state. Is

1:26:09

there anything notable in here? Limited time activities

1:26:11

and rewards to start. We want to highlight

1:26:14

the content that will only be available during

1:26:16

Destiny 2 into the light. It's

1:26:19

basically Shinies are the only thing that

1:26:21

are coming away. Yeah. Everything

1:26:24

else you'll still be able to get.

1:26:27

And even like the super black shader and

1:26:29

all that, they're saying that they're going to

1:26:31

find ways to bring that back for you

1:26:33

to get that. But they didn't say how

1:26:35

yet. So there will just be ways to

1:26:37

get all the stuff except for

1:26:39

the Shinies. Yeah,

1:26:43

I was trying to find the roadmap of the dates again, but... But

1:26:46

I really want to know what the raid gauntlet is

1:26:48

and they still won't tell me. I'm just going to

1:26:50

have to wait. A Pantheon?

1:26:52

Yes. Uh-huh.

1:26:57

Sounds like it's going to be pretty... I'm just so curious. It's going

1:26:59

to be a great activity. Yeah. And

1:27:01

maybe that's going to help get people into doing

1:27:03

raids. Yeah. And

1:27:06

then May 7th, PvP maps. Still

1:27:10

waiting on those. Yeah,

1:27:14

so the Pantheon is

1:27:17

available from April 30th, June 3rd

1:27:19

right before Power Shape Criminal. Y'all,

1:27:22

May 7th is not that far away.

1:27:24

We're going to be playing new PvP

1:27:26

maps soon. I'm really pumped about that.

1:27:28

And three of them. Yeah, that is

1:27:30

so exciting. Is

1:27:34

there anything else in the Twa'b we want to go over or is that

1:27:36

pretty much it? That

1:27:39

is about it. There was a big

1:27:41

section here about how they fixed the

1:27:43

Into the Light launch day. Because

1:27:46

they had a big thing before about

1:27:48

like, hey, it's not going to be a problem now when

1:27:50

we launch new stuff. And then Into the Light was like,

1:27:52

everybody was bugging out and no one could get on. Rewards

1:27:55

were like not showing up. And then an hour

1:27:57

later, they would come in. And so they kind

1:27:59

of... Detailed like how it happened. I'm not gonna list

1:28:01

it all here But it was a pretty interesting read

1:28:04

if you're interested in how the game works It's

1:28:06

it just blows my mind that it even

1:28:08

that they were able to band-aid fix it

1:28:10

and keep everyone live and keep it going

1:28:12

And everyone's rewards came in and then

1:28:15

they they actually fix the problem later and I

1:28:17

was like, how does that even that's really? Yeah

1:28:25

Where questions yay. All right

1:28:30

Oh Charles

1:28:33

me Davis says what are the chances that

1:28:35

the raid is earlier than expected because the

1:28:38

mad lads actually did it and removed power

1:28:40

level I'd

1:28:43

be so sorry about that We

1:28:46

talked about Before was like that.

1:28:48

I'd have to go find the post. I'm

1:28:50

sorry. There was something about bringing up the

1:28:52

average to the highest member Yeah,

1:28:55

I assume that that means there will

1:28:57

still be some power, you know increase

1:29:00

They may have confirmed. I yeah, I don't

1:29:02

remember I Can't

1:29:05

admit it let's put it this way you guys really think

1:29:07

you'll be playing The final shape

1:29:09

and there's no new power. There has to be

1:29:12

I feel like yeah Well,

1:29:15

we have to see how the fire team

1:29:17

level thing that they're doing No,

1:29:20

maybe there maybe they're tinkering Janker

1:29:22

with some stuff. I think it'll be in there and

1:29:25

like again I hope that the idea though is that

1:29:27

it's not crazy and it's just like look if you

1:29:29

beat the campaign and a

1:29:31

little bit more than that You'll

1:29:34

be at these higher levels. But more importantly

1:29:36

that the rate is set to a level

1:29:38

That's like, oh you beat the

1:29:40

main campaign and put in your 15 hours

1:29:42

or 10 out You know what? I mean

1:29:44

like make it reasonable That's a bit

1:29:46

of a climb but don't make it a reason that

1:29:48

you have to grind destiny to get power I feel

1:29:51

like we're over that. Yep over it

1:29:56

Sarah says what do you

1:29:58

guys think will be the origin story

1:30:00

for the ghosts creation a

1:30:03

lot of the community thought they were defectors from

1:30:05

the witnesses first Civilization

1:30:07

before the merge but the collector's

1:30:09

edition lore killed that theory thoughts

1:30:15

Somebody call my list. Yeah,

1:30:17

I have no idea I'm

1:30:21

stupid. I need Some

1:30:24

ideas I would like some Answers,

1:30:27

you know, you know the way you know the

1:30:29

way fallout the show it like really gave Like

1:30:32

it was just really good at being satisfying

1:30:34

with how everything went during the show and

1:30:36

I would really like that for destiny In

1:30:40

this stage like we're we're we've been here for a

1:30:42

while, you know, let's let's just get to it Yeah

1:30:49

Gator says here's my question like

1:30:51

the fallout show on Netflix Do

1:30:53

you guys think that doomsday preppers

1:30:55

will be laughing if actual fallout

1:30:58

happened? No, I don't think anybody's

1:31:00

gonna be laughing No, I would hope you wouldn't

1:31:02

laugh Yeah,

1:31:04

what a grim question. Yeah, I mean the

1:31:06

way that got the way if you've seen

1:31:08

the show or if you play the games

1:31:10

you know that Nobody

1:31:13

came out of that ahead even the

1:31:15

preppers Nobody

1:31:20

Like anybody who's on the service died or Suffered

1:31:23

horrible disfigurement and the people who are

1:31:25

the vaults were basically the

1:31:28

subject of experimentation Yeah

1:31:32

Some of it was horrific Twisted

1:31:37

joystick podcast has a Kind

1:31:40

of a you know, a quick one

1:31:44

a great podcast Yeah,

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you know People see people use their tiny

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think fart glitter would be great. Fart glitter.

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Nobody's ever going to know your fart and glitter

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under there. You can't be pulling down your pants

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and just letting that shit fly. Getting

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your socks. I know. Burp confetti

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sounds kind of fun too. Yeah. I

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feel like I control my burps better too. Sometimes if I really

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don't want to burp, I could just swallow that thing down. Yeah.

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I'd say fart confetti. Farts, I have less control. Yeah.

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You know, you try to sneak one out. It'd be a

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lot more difficult, you know. Lumpy

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underwear. You're like, man. Yeah, that's not going to

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be comfortable. I don't know if fart and glitter.

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Where like a bump could be like funny. Yeah.

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They say Minnie and Ellen could work in the adult

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industry as well. I don't know if that one. True.

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True. So my thought was

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with the burp confetti, are you going

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to feel the confetti come out of

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your throat? Because that feels uncomfortable. And

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glitter seems less than uncomfortable. Yeah,

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confetti is bigger. She makes an interesting

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point. True. I'm going

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to say no. It just like conjures as

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it's coming out. So you don't die of

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like confetti. Like steam, you

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know, it doesn't condense into confetti until

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it's like out of your mouth. Okay.

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the headshot sound from that one skull

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and halo. Oh, birthday party. Yeah.

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you go. Hey, the little kids scream

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every time you get a headshot and

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the head first. That was good. They

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don't use that anymore. Oh, I don't think they

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spiders. I'm going to swim with a

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shark. I ain't going to let them spiders. Way

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way way. Are they poisonous spiders?

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long as you're not pointing to spiders, I would do

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a room full of spiders. Like, I mean, it's not.

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I could probably, I think I could befriend a shark. What

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A I Love O'neill. Or

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is it is like all there's a lot

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of fighters with his room like seven. really

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good. The spiders. Yeah. And

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it's not like it's not like if things

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glitter yeah I just got what. I

1:37:10

don't have a confidence in myself. A. Nerf

1:37:14

ball his brother like Ikea

1:37:17

like. There's a

1:37:19

lab and everybody I can do it. Could

1:37:21

be that the to. Discovering. Low.

1:37:24

Guess look at you that a whole

1:37:26

thing with as far glitter and now

1:37:28

like you're afraid of. And. It's

1:37:30

that's fine. It's gotta be comfortable.

1:37:33

Anything could happen. Over you

1:37:35

haven't I don't know if you haven't I'm

1:37:37

a voice how it was paired. Me:

1:37:44

Sir. Risk of Bisque Three says with

1:37:46

the Bob series be in a hit.

1:37:48

What other video game and adaptations was

1:37:50

you like to see? Personally I'd like

1:37:52

to see Monster Hunter would be awesome

1:37:54

to see that the off tackle the

1:37:57

family goes cooking up briar him hundred

1:37:59

delicious. Yeah. You

1:38:01

got me over the five zero thing.

1:38:04

About as good as that would have ruled

1:38:06

that normally my don't know where you got

1:38:08

him the whole my questioning it in last

1:38:10

week. did I did I pull it off

1:38:12

or did he not read it. I

1:38:14

was part of it. I remember the

1:38:17

no lag as like only a few

1:38:19

hours. Yeah, just got an average guy.

1:38:21

Now the I'm reminded of should. Get

1:38:24

out. Ah good question to my or

1:38:26

jog or yeah bio shock. I feel

1:38:28

like I was thinking about a black

1:38:31

mayor. I am I was watching of

1:38:33

authors. Yeah yes, Would you kindly make

1:38:35

about sharks Years? That would be nice.

1:38:37

Yeah But you know. A

1:38:39

what fall out the is doing so

1:38:41

successfully I think is that they're picking

1:38:43

out like the best part of that.

1:38:46

Game. Series would say to me

1:38:48

is. Like. This is

1:38:51

that are unbelievably interesting wiggle world

1:38:53

to occupy. Like this is so

1:38:55

many things that are so interesting

1:38:57

about that world. But they also

1:38:59

they've picked. These. The.

1:39:02

Obviously play the games and they've just kind of.

1:39:06

Taken. That story and they've kept running with

1:39:08

it. You don't have to receive played any of

1:39:10

those games to throw that so, but if you

1:39:12

have. Like there. Is

1:39:14

this incredibly rich lore so

1:39:17

that. It's

1:39:21

like what? are. You

1:39:24

know how like tell when a series has

1:39:26

like this I bible slogans there's not these

1:39:28

projects since all the time happening like a

1:39:31

lot of version is the you need a

1:39:33

show bible to dry and like to have

1:39:35

the visited make everything connects right. I

1:39:38

don't either. I think the So is amazing

1:39:40

public the so many video game properties have

1:39:43

gone so wrong. Halo Bash. Assistance.

1:39:46

To there's been some real that one's is

1:39:48

had. Arcane with League of Legends is handmade

1:39:51

my monk enemy which is really good with

1:39:53

have fall out the last of us. And

1:39:56

then adoptions recently adaptations. Arcane

1:39:59

at home, I think both exist in the

1:40:01

same place where they have this unbelievable world where they

1:40:03

can sell any story they want to you Yeah,

1:40:06

yeah, they're in the way halo is a

1:40:09

little stuck because you're really on the story

1:40:11

the massive chief not a world of halo

1:40:15

Yeah, I couldn't speak to Halo

1:40:19

twisted metal by the way didn't see

1:40:21

those I liked it. Yeah people said

1:40:23

was kind of fun I don't know how true you need to be

1:40:25

to that world anyway like it's a bunch of Crazy

1:40:29

people in cars But

1:40:32

I was gonna say it does in general when

1:40:34

you get the good stuff it is The

1:40:36

lesson I assume is like you work

1:40:39

closely with the creators and hand-in-hand like

1:40:41

they were executive producers

1:40:43

like Meticulous in the same way they

1:40:45

were for the games and like that's what it takes because

1:40:48

the fan Recipitation

1:40:50

right they're like oh my god like you got

1:40:53

this right when Everything

1:40:55

seems to go off the rails when you don't have

1:40:57

like that creator Adjointed

1:41:00

the hip, you know The

1:41:05

good news too is like the sales of the

1:41:07

video games have like jumped back up the steam

1:41:09

sale carts people are really enjoying Yeah

1:41:11

older game. Yeah, well 76 is now

1:41:14

had like what four or five years

1:41:16

of Patches and updates and

1:41:18

now it's apparently a pretty fun game. I've never

1:41:20

played it. I kind of curious about it now

1:41:23

Yeah, they did or doing a free week for

1:41:25

it. I believe it is a free week Yeah,

1:41:28

I might just play Fallout New Vegas instead

1:41:30

though because I already know that's awesome

1:41:35

It's like follow New Vegas is

1:41:37

like directly related to the Fallout

1:41:39

TV show and like closer than

1:41:41

I think pretty much anything maybe Maybe

1:41:44

actually play in the original fallout would be fun,

1:41:47

too Yeah,

1:41:49

I always bring up if you're into the

1:41:51

fallout stuff I produce this series that I

1:41:53

didn't call the IGN expert mode Oh, really

1:41:55

fallout New Vegas was one of them. It's

1:41:57

only like a 10-minute piece, but a really

1:41:59

cool piece You see Josh, you

1:42:01

know the game director playing the game and

1:42:03

talk about it while he's playing but it's

1:42:06

just a good interview as well But like with some

1:42:08

like oh, yeah, we we weren't gonna do

1:42:10

this But we did this and like the history of like how

1:42:12

they arrived And it's like 10

1:42:14

minutes. Yeah, I'd you an expert mode fall in

1:42:16

New Vegas highly recommend if you're getting

1:42:19

back into all your fallout stuff Yeah,

1:42:21

if you want to know about

1:42:23