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33-year-old police officer, finished
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his shift for the Bardstown Police Department
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and headed home in his cruiser. During
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his drive, Jason encountered a pile
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of tree limbs blocking the road. He
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turned on his police lights, parked his
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car diagonally to block the road, and
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stepped out to clear the limbs so no one would get hurt.
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As he bent down to pick up the debris, a gunman
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shot him multiple times. Jason
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died at the scene and was
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later found by a passing motorist. It's
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been almost 11 years since Officer Jason
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Ellis was killed, and investigators
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are still searching for the people responsible.
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Hey everyone, welcome back to Detective
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Perspective. My
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name is Derek LaBassar. I'm a licensed
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private investigator and former police detective. Each
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use. Okay, this week's
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case, Officer Jason Ellis. Probably
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not hard for you to figure out why I'm covering
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this one. It's 11 years old, so
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relatively new in the scheme of cold
2:39
cases. But yeah, I'm covering
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it because it's a fallen police officer and as
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I just said for anyone who doesn't know, I'm
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a former police detective. I have a lot of friends in
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law enforcement. I was one of
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them out there and you know, I know
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how hard that job is and I know how
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dangerous it can be and whenever
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I hear about someone like this who
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by all accounts was doing the right thing and was
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a great person to
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have their life ended just because
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potentially, possibly because of
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the occupation they chose, it's
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really unfortunate. It's a hard pill for me to
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swallow personally again because of my connection
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to it. I've known about this case for years.
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I heard about it when it happened. I was
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a police officer when it
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happened, so very familiar
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with it. Although I didn't know
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all the specifics like I'm gonna cover here tonight,
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so this was a good refresher for me as well.
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But it's pretty simple. The reason I'm covering
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this case is because although
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when I get into my perspective, this one may
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be a hard one to solve at this point,
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I know that if I don't put my version of it
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out there, if I don't put my voice on top of
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this, I would feel some type of way
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and I would feel like I'm not doing my part. So
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I'm obviously doing this for you guys to make you aware
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of this case if you're not already, but
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I'm also doing it for myself. So
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with that all out of the way, let's dive into this week's
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case. Jason Scott Ellis,
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born on September 22, 1979, grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio, with
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his two sisters
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and their parents, Denny and Pam. From
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a young age, Jason showed talent in baseball and
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became a star player in high school, earning
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the title of Player of the Year in 1998. After
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graduating in 1998, Jason
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played baseball for the University of
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Cumberland and Williamsburg, Kentucky, where
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he set multiple records. After
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earning a bachelor's degree in communication in
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2003, Jason signed with the
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Cincinnati Reds to play minor league baseball.
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A year later, Jason married his
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college sweetheart, Amy, and they later welcomed
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two sons. Jason
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eventually left the Cincinnati Reds and his
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family settled in Bardstown, Kentucky, a small
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town with approximately 13,000 residents. Jason
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volunteered as a youth baseball coach and
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in 2006, he fulfilled his lifelong dream
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of joining the police department. Within
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a year, he became Bardstown PD's
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only canine officer, partnering with
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his German shepherd, Thigo. Amy
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described Jason as a police officer who went
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by the book, but was also
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a friendly and humorous person. Even
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during stops, he would approach his work with
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a light-hearted demeanor, making people laugh in the
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process. According to the
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Bardstown police chief, Jason was one of
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the department's top officers when it came to arrest
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numbers. He averaged about a dozen
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drug-related arrests each month, which helped
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put a dent in the town's issues with narcotics. In
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2008, just two years into his law
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enforcement career, Jason received the Officer
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of the Year Award. He
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also earned the Governor's Award for impaired
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driving enforcement on two occasions. Throughout
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the years, Jason remained devoted to removing
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drugs from the streets and ensuring his
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community safety. In
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the late afternoon of May 24, 2013, Jason reported for work
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at the police department. Typically
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he'd bring Figo with him, but the canine SUV was
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in the shop, so he was not a So
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Figo stayed home and Jason drove a
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marked cruiser shared by multiple officers. After
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completing a routine shift, Jason left work
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at 2 a.m. and headed home, still
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wearing his police uniform. However,
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he would never reach his destination. Just
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after 2.30 a.m., a driver
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took Exit 34 off Bluegrass
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Parkway, a sharp exit located between
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Rocky Hills. The
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driver encountered a police car parked diagonally
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in the road with its flashing blue
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lights activated, but there were no officers
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in sight. Concerned, the
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driver got out and looked around. That's
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when he discovered 33-year-old Jason's body lying in
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front of his cruiser near a pile of
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trimmed tree limbs. Now, initially,
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the driver thought that the limbs might have fallen on
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Jason or that he might have been struck by a
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car. The exact details at this
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point were unclear. All the driver
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knew was that Jason was dead. So
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using the car radio, the driver reported
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an officer down. Bardstown
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police and Kentucky State troopers quickly arrived
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at the scene. When they
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examined Jason's body, they determined that he sustained
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gunshot wounds in his armpit where the Kevlar
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vest dipped down right under his arm and
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also his head. Subsequent autopsy
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results concluded that he had been shot
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multiple times with a 12-gauge shotgun. Now,
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real quickly, for anybody who's not familiar
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with us, when we wear a vest, you can actually
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see mine right behind me
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there if you're watching on YouTube. The vest,
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you can kind of see, it's a little blurry back there, but
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it kind of wraps around you and it kind of
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straps under where your rib cage is. But unfortunately,
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there is a little bit of a gap there
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where your arm, you know, under your armpit there
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where they kind of have to leave it open
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because if it was right up under your
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armpit, it would be extremely uncomfortable every time
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you moved around, especially when you sat in your
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vehicle. Every time you sit in your police cruiser,
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your vest kind of hits the top of your duty belt
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and it causes it to push up. That's
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why they also have to leave a little bit of a
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gap right below your neck. So it's
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unfortunate because it leaves. you vulnerable in
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those two specific areas, the armpits and
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that neck area and almost around a
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little bit below your belly button as
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well. It just really sucks because
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you hear about a lot of these police officer
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involved shootings where the officer is killed and
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it's sometimes during a shootout
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where the officer is firing back at
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the suspect so their arms lifted and
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unfortunately the suspect gets a round off
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that goes under their vest or through
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the gap in the vest and kills
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the officer because now obviously goes right into the
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important organs that keep you alive. And
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it's just really unfortunate and frankly
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it's just a really unlucky situation.
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Now according to the Associated Press, Jason's
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service weapon was still holstered indicating that
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more than likely he did not anticipate
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the shooting. And unfortunately there
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was no video footage of the shooting because
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the cruiser that Jason was driving at the
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time was an older model and it didn't
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have a dash cam installed. Now
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based on the evidence at the crime scene,
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authorities determined that after Jason took exit
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34 on his usual route home, he
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encountered the limbs in the middle of the road. So
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he activated his lights, parked diagonally to
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block the road and got out
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of the vehicle to clear the road hazard. While
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bending down to move the tree limbs, he was shot
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from above, which suggested that the
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gunman had likely been positioned on a nearby hill.
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It was clear to investigators that Jason was
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ambushed with no opportunity to reach for his
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service weapon or radio for help. The
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incident marked the first time a Bardstown police
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officer had been killed. In
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response, the police chief instructed his 25
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officers to respond to calls and pairs
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and remain vigilant. Officers
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also took turns staying with the Ellis family
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at night to ensure their safety. The
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Kentucky State Police took over the investigation
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with the assistance from the Bardstown Police
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and federal agencies like the FBI and
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the ATF. On
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May 26, the Kentucky State Police held a
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press conference where they announced that Jason's murder
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had been a premeditated ambush. However,
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they were still working to determine whether Jason
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was a specific target and
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asked for the public's help in identifying any
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potential suspects. The KSP
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further mentioned their belief that someone was present
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in the area of Exit 34 before
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the murder. They urged
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anyone who saw anything suspicious, such
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as an unintended vehicle or loitering
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individuals to contact the police immediately.
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press conference announcing a reward of over $30,000.
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The police chief provided an update mentioning
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that the department was working tirelessly around
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the clock to find answers. According
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to the Associated Press, the chief mentioned receiving
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numerous tips and a few leads but nothing
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they could quote, get excited over just yet.
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At this point, they had no motive and
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no suspects. During the
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conference, Jason's wife Amy addressed the crowd. She
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emphasized that no words could adequately convey
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the amount of sadness and anger she
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felt. Amy said despite
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not wanting to live another second without her
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beloved husband, she recognized the need to stay
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strong for her two sons, who were only
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six and seven years old. On
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May 30th, Jason's funeral took place on
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what would have been his seventh anniversary
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as a police officer. Approximately
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800 police cruisers and other
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emergency vehicles from across the country participated
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in a 20-mile procession to
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the cemetery where Jason was laid to
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rest. This route was
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lined with American flags and mourners. During
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the funeral, Jason's canine partner, Figo,
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was present. He slowly
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approached the casket and gently pawed at it. Following
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the ceremony, Figo retired from
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police work and was allowed to stay with
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the Ellis family. On
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June 4th, the Kentucky State Police announced the
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$125,000 reward and revealed that the tree limbs
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discovered at the exit 34
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did not belong to any trees in that
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immediate area. This told police that
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the limbs were brought there from somewhere else. The
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police urged Nelson County residents to contact them
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if they had tree work done around the
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time of the murder or if they witnessed
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any tree trimming or removal activities. KSP
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further mentioned that they were meticulously reviewing
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all of Jason's previous arrests to identify
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any red flags that could lead them
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to a suspect. But
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in the end, they didn't find anything suspicious.
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And while Jason had made some high-profile arrests
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before his murder, they weren't
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more notable than what any other officer
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had done. Now, I will say, although that
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might have been the case, it
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only takes one, right? It could have been a routine
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traffic stop for all we know where the
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operator of the vehicle didn't like the
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way that Jason had spoken to
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him. And maybe that person has festered
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over it for weeks or months or maybe even
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years and was just looking for
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an opportunity. So although I understand
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where investigators are coming from, where there wasn't
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something that popped off the page as far
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as, oh, this could be
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a potential suspect, that's fine. But
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again, it doesn't take a serious case. case
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to lead to a serious crime. It's
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not about what happened, it's how that person felt
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and everyone reacts to every situation
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differently. So something that on paper
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to them may have looked
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routine again to the
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person that was affected by it, the suspect
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in the case, they might have taken
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it personally and this could have been their response. There's
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no way to know for sure. Any
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case that we're involved in, any
14:25
arrest that we make, you
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could be creating a future enemy.
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That's the danger that comes with being a
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police officer. In addition to scrutinizing
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Jason's arrests, the police interviewed Amy to ask
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if she knew anyone Jason had been having
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problems with or any red flags she may
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have noticed prior to his murder. She
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said no, Jason never talked about his
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work ever and he said
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it was to shield her but Amy later told
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KPNS that this made her feel shut off from
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this part of his life. Amy
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also mentioned that they never talked about what would happen
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if Jason were to lose his life. They
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didn't have a will and all they
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had was a very small life insurance policy. She
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said he never wanted to talk about death so
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when he died they didn't have a plan in place.
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Now as a former police officer I
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can confirm this. This is something that's
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very common amongst police officers.
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I've been through a lot of dangerous situations
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and I can tell you that a
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lot of my family members and friends didn't
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know about those situations until they read them
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in my book that I wrote much later
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in life after I was retired. I
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had a few of them come up to me and say hey what
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the hell I didn't know that happened to you or I didn't know
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you had this hit put on you or I didn't know you were
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in this situation or how it affected you and it
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is a common thing amongst police officers we do
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it as a way of compartmentalizing what we experience
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at work. We don't want to bring that home
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with us and I will
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tell you that there's a psychological element to it
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where we're more likely to talk about it with
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other police officers because they will
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quote-unquote understand it's just a mentality
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that you develop as a police officer. And
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then there's the element where you don't want to scare
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your significant other or your family or your friends when
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you go home because it's
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not only stressful on you as
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the police officer, but You
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say to yourself like what's the point of stressing them out
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when I'm at work? There's nothing they can do to help
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me once I'm there. I'm there and
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regardless of how much you're loved if you get
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into a bad situation The
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only person that's gonna be able to help you in
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that moment is you or your or your fellow officers
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So why burden family members or
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friends with something that there's really no
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they don't have any control over it So
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this could have been a situation where he didn't want
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to talk about what was going on at work because
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he didn't want To worry his wife completely understandable And
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I also think there's an element that many of you can
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relate to where you don't like to
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put bad vibes into the universe right, you don't want
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to talk about dying or something bad
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happening because there's a lot of people and I'm
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one of them where You know
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if you're constantly thinking in a negative mindset
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you create that that opportunity for
16:58
it where I'd rather focus on the positive
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And I'd rather be optimistic. Hey, I'm not
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gonna get hurt. I'm not gonna die. I'm
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gonna be fine I'm gonna be safe and
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that might have been Jason's mentality, but in hindsight
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Thinking from a logistical perspective even though
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I felt similar to Jason I
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did also make sure that I had a life insurance
17:17
policy in that Jana knew what
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she would have to do if I passed away even though I
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was only 20 years old when I got hired it's
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just a necessary part of the job and It's
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an unfortunate thing, but it's it's like any
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job. You don't know what's gonna happen So
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it's better to be prepared so
17:34
that if God forbid something does happen to you
17:36
your your family's taken care Now
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in addition to going through Jason's arrest records
17:41
and speaking to Amy The Kentucky
17:43
State Police also dug deep into Jason's background
17:46
for anything that might provide a motive for
17:48
his murder Such as gambling
17:50
debts drugs or affairs, but
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they found nothing the KSP later
17:54
said quote Jason Ellis really
17:56
was that guy a devoted family
17:58
man an honest police a young
18:01
baseball coach, a pillar of the
18:03
community. In mid-June, the Kentucky
18:05
Standard reported that Bardstown Police had been receiving
18:08
death threats through letters,
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phone calls, and social media, implying
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that, quote, there was more to come, meaning
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more murders to come. While the
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specific language used in the threats was
18:19
not disclosed publicly, Bardstown Police
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turned them over to the FBI. However,
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as far as I can tell, no significant developments
18:26
resulted from these threats. By mid-June, more
18:29
than a month had passed since
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Jason was murdered. The Bardstown
18:33
Police Chief expressed frustration that they hadn't made
18:35
significant progress in finding
18:37
answers for the family, the department, or
18:40
the community. In late August,
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the FBI announced efforts to generate new leads,
18:44
which included a billboard campaign and an additional
18:46
reward of $50,000 in the case, bringing
18:49
the total to $218,000. Despite
18:53
these efforts, no one came forward with
18:55
information needed to solve this case. The
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Bardstown Police Chief told WCPO that he found
19:00
it troublesome that the reward was set at
19:02
such a high amount, yet no one came
19:04
forward with the information they needed. This
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lack of cooperation indicated to him that
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the quote, murders run deep. Now,
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I know what he's trying to say here. He's
19:16
trying to say that maybe this is
19:18
a bigger collaboration that took
19:20
place. Maybe there's multiple people involved. Maybe
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there's bigger forces at play here where
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people are afraid to come forward
19:26
with information. Who
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am I to say that's not possible? He knows that
19:31
community much better than me. I
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will say this, and I'll get more into this at
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the end during my perspective, but there's
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a real possibility that no one came
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after all this media attention slowed down over
20:18
the next few months until November when the
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Kentucky State Police released a YouTube video asking
20:22
for the public's help in solving the case.
20:25
KSP described the video as an attempt to
20:27
cast a wide net in their search for the
20:29
culprit who might have fled the area or could
20:32
still be living locally. They
20:34
said quote, we're just weighing all of our options
20:36
and trying to get as much exposure as we
20:38
can to see if we can catch a break.
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And although police did receive tips from the
20:43
video, they did not obtain the leads they
20:45
were hoping for and the case continued to
20:47
stall. May 25th,
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2014 marked one year since
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Jason was ambushed and killed on exit 34.
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Amy told the Courier-Journal quote, we're
20:58
just trying to put our shattered lives back together. I
21:01
lost the love of my life. The boys
21:03
lost their daddy. We're trying
21:05
to stay positive, trying to heal as
21:08
best as we can. That
21:10
month, the Lexington Herald-Leader released a long
21:12
form article outlining where the case stood
21:14
one year after the murder. The
21:17
Kentucky State Police revealed that they think more than
21:19
one person was involved. They stated
21:22
quote, it certainly could have been
21:24
a lone gunman scenario, but logistically, it
21:26
would have been very difficult to carry out the
21:28
plan. Based on some of the
21:30
things we know about the scene, it appears to
21:32
us that at least two people were involved. However,
21:36
they would not discuss any further details. KSP
21:39
also said that they felt with a
21:42
quote, high degree of certainty that the
21:44
ambush was meant to target a law
21:46
enforcement officer, but they couldn't say
21:48
for sure if the specific target was Jason.
21:51
Several officers from multiple agencies used
21:53
exit 34 after work, and
21:56
there's nothing in Jason's background to indicate
21:58
that he was the specific target. Now,
22:01
unfortunately, reporting on Jason's murder slowed
22:03
down drastically after the one-year mark.
22:06
And by May of 2015, two
22:08
years had passed since Jason was ambushed and
22:10
killed. In a video released
22:12
by Amy and the Kentucky State Police, Amy
22:15
described the pain endured by both her and
22:17
Jason's loved ones since his tragic death. She
22:20
made a heartfelt appeal to those with information,
22:23
urging them to come forward and help the family
22:25
find closure. Amy said, quote,
22:28
time cannot close our wound. It
22:30
has been two years since our family was devastated
22:32
by a senseless ambush of my husband. She
22:35
emphasized that Jason's family and friends are
22:38
unable to heal without understanding who killed
22:40
him and why. Amy
22:42
went on to state, quote, we still struggle
22:44
with the need to understand before the healing
22:46
can truly begin. In
22:49
an announcement accompanying the video, the Kentucky State
22:51
Police expressed the hope that its release would
22:53
generate new leads. They
22:55
said someone somewhere had
22:57
crucial information about the murder and
22:59
even the smallest detail could be the key to making
23:02
an arrest. Despite
23:04
Amy's heartfelt pleas, no one came forward with
23:06
the information needed to solve the case. But
23:10
that didn't stop Amy and the police from
23:12
continuing to speak out about Jason's unsolved murder.
23:15
In May of 2017, just
23:17
two days before the fourth anniversary of
23:19
Jason's murder, his canine partner,
23:22
Figo, passed away at the age of 11 after
23:25
a prolonged illness. A
23:27
graveside service was held for Figo
23:29
and his remains were placed in an urn next
23:32
to Jason's headstone. The
23:34
years continued to pass without any answers. And
23:37
eventually the FBI took over investigating
23:39
Jason's case. In
23:42
2020, the assistant special agent in charge
23:44
revealed that Jason's murder might
23:46
be connected to two unsolved Bardstown
23:48
cases, the disappearance of Crystal
23:50
Rogers and the murder of her father,
23:53
Tommy Ballard. The agent expressed
23:55
the belief that solving one of these three
23:57
murders could potentially bring resolution to the others.
24:00
But unfortunately, he didn't provide any further
24:02
details. Now if you don't already
24:04
know this already, which I'm assuming the majority of you do, Stephanie
24:08
and I recently covered the Crystal Rogers
24:10
case on Crime Weekly, and if you haven't
24:13
had a chance to listen to those episodes, here's a
24:15
quick rundown. In July of
24:17
2015, Crystal Rogers went missing from
24:19
Bardstown. On the same day
24:21
that Crystal was reported missing, her car
24:24
was found abandoned with a flat tire
24:26
at mile marker 14 on the Bluegrass
24:28
Parkway. Crystal's keys,
24:30
phone, and purse were still inside the
24:32
red Chevy Impala. While
24:34
Crystal's remains have never been located, she has
24:36
long been presumed dead, and Crystal's boyfriend Brooks
24:39
Hauck was named as a person of interest
24:41
in her disappearance. Now
24:43
just a few months after Crystal went
24:45
missing, Brooks' brother, Nick, was fired
24:47
from the Bardstown Police Department where he served
24:49
as a police officer for interfering
24:51
with the investigation into Crystal's disappearance.
24:55
Now just over a year later,
24:57
in November of 2016, Crystal's father,
24:59
Tommy Ballard, was shot and
25:01
killed while preparing for a hunting trip
25:03
with his 12-year-old grandson on the family
25:05
property in Bardstown next to the Bluegrass
25:08
Parkway. It has long been
25:10
believed that Tommy's murder is related to
25:12
Crystal's disappearance. Now despite
25:14
the special agent in charge potentially linking
25:16
Jason's murder to the disappearance of Crystal
25:18
and the murder of Tommy, the
25:21
investigation into Jason's case continued to
25:23
stall. Then
25:25
in October of 2022, Jason's
25:27
memorial, which is located off
25:30
Exit 34, was vandalized. This
25:32
left his family with a lot of questions. They
25:35
wondered why someone would vandalize his memorial
25:37
now nine and a half years after
25:39
his murder. Amy
25:41
conveyed a powerful message to the vandal when
25:43
speaking to WDRB. She
25:45
said, quote, "...you cannot take away the
25:47
man that he was. You cannot
25:49
take away our memories. And
25:51
you cannot take away the way that we will continue
25:53
to honor and remember him and the man that he
25:55
was." Now despite
25:58
offering a reward for information leading to the murder of the to
26:00
the Vandal, up to this point, no
26:02
arrests in that case have been made. Just
26:05
a few months later, in January of 2023,
26:07
the Kentucky Attorney General appointed
26:09
a state attorney to serve as a
26:11
special prosecutor for the murders of Jason
26:13
Ellis, Crystal Rogers, and
26:15
Tommy Ballard. Again,
26:18
no details regarding the possible connection
26:20
between the three cases were provided.
26:23
On May 25, 2023, an
26:26
entire decade had passed since Jason was murdered.
26:29
Amy shared with Spectrum News 1 that
26:31
no one expected to find themselves here
26:33
10 years later, still without answers. Initially,
26:36
everyone believed this case would be solved within
26:38
days, or at worst, a couple months. Amy
26:41
expressed that despite the difficulty of lacking answers,
26:44
she chooses to focus on who Jason was
26:46
and what he stood for. She
26:48
and Jason's loved ones refuse to let evil,
26:51
bitterness, and anger take root within their hearts.
26:54
Now I want to circle back to Crystal
26:56
Rogers, which I spoke about earlier because in
26:59
September of 2023, Crystal's boyfriend,
27:01
Brooks Hauck, was arrested for her
27:03
murder. And during a court
27:05
hearing for Brooks, the prosecution revealed that
27:07
they were in possession of a gun
27:09
they believed was used to kill Crystal's
27:11
father, Tommy Ballard. Now the
27:13
interesting part here is prosecutors also revealed
27:16
that they had purchased the gun from
27:18
Nick Hauck, who I mentioned earlier was
27:20
not only the brother of Brooks Hauck,
27:22
but also a former Bartstown police officer.
27:25
Now obviously the progress made in Crystal
27:27
and Tommy's cases brought hope to Jason's
27:29
family. His sister Kelly told the
27:31
media that without going into too much detail,
27:33
there seemed to be similar people connected to
27:36
Jason and Crystal's cases. Jason's
27:38
other sister Lacey questioned why Jason's
27:40
case hadn't been solved yet. She
27:43
said, quote, they don't
27:45
want it solved. They're bearing stuff under
27:47
the rug, or there's more behind the
27:49
curtain. There's too much that's going to
27:51
come out. And that's what makes me nervous.
27:54
Lacey added that when the case was finally
27:56
solved, she wants people to remember Jason for
27:59
the incredible person. and he was, not
28:01
the tragedy that happened. Unfortunately,
28:04
that's the latest update we have in Jason's
28:06
case. Authorities are still searching for
28:08
the person or people who ambushed him on exit
28:10
34 and his
28:12
family continues to fight for justice. All
28:18
right, so let's dive into the perspective. And I only
28:20
have a few points to make, but I have a
28:22
pretty interesting theory to pose to you guys. And I
28:24
don't know, maybe someone who's listening
28:26
or watching this who's involved with the case, will
28:29
know if this has been looked into before and
28:31
if it hasn't, maybe it will now
28:34
once I bring all this out. So first off, let's
28:36
talk about the big reveal
28:38
at the end here about Crystal Rogers and
28:40
Tommy Ballard. Again, a lot of you are
28:42
coming over from Crime Weekly. You
28:45
probably already know about this case. And
28:47
as I said at the end with
28:49
this case, prosecutors revealed that
28:52
they had purchased a gun from
28:54
Nick Houk that they believe
28:57
was potentially used to murder Tommy
28:59
Ballard. They didn't say anything
29:01
about Jason Ellis. What's interesting about
29:03
that little section that they
29:05
revealed at court was
29:07
they mentioned, they didn't say the caliber or anything,
29:09
but I believe they mentioned the
29:11
word rifle. They said, we
29:14
purchased the rifle from Nick Houk. Well,
29:17
that wouldn't line up with Jason
29:19
Ellis' murder if you remember, because he was
29:21
killed from what we understand with a 12
29:23
gauge shotgun. So it was a different gun.
29:26
So we know that's not the connection, but here's
29:29
what's interesting. And I'm gonna come back to
29:32
Nick Houk at the end of this, but follow me, stick
29:34
with me on this. I
29:36
don't necessarily believe that
29:38
there's multiple people involved. I don't know the
29:40
crime scene and I don't know the specifics
29:43
that they know. So I always qualify it
29:45
by saying that. Yes, if it
29:47
was heavy tree limbs or whatever it might've
29:49
been, or maybe they're
29:51
thinking that one person slid the tree limbs
29:53
in front of the car right before it
29:55
showed up, while the other person stayed on
29:58
the hill and shot. Jason
30:00
as he approached I guess
30:02
that's possible, but I would argue Now
30:05
more than likely this is one person maybe two
30:08
But I'm going with one for the sake of
30:10
this conversation and this person
30:12
is one of two people in my mind there's
30:14
some type of serial killer who's done
30:17
something like this before and it's a
30:19
thrill kill where The intention
30:21
wasn't law enforcement. The intention wasn't Jason
30:23
Ellis. The intention was just to
30:26
kill someone. That's all it was They didn't care who
30:28
it was and under that theory they
30:30
would basically put out these tree limbs to distract
30:32
someone to get someone to get out of their
30:34
car and as soon as they did
30:36
they would kill this person and be on their way and if
30:39
that's the case here what law enforcement needs to
30:41
look into is other
30:44
cases where a Similar
30:46
modus operandi a similar mo was
30:48
conducted maybe in Bardstown maybe in
30:50
Kentucky or maybe somewhere
30:52
in surrounding states some other case where
30:56
the victims involved were killed from a distance
30:58
by a gun and it doesn't appear that
31:00
they had any enemies or There
31:02
would be any reason for anyone want to want to
31:04
hurt them So this like I said,
31:06
this could just be some coward who likes
31:08
to kill people from a distance for their
31:10
own gratification It could be as simple as
31:12
that and if there's only one
31:14
person who knows what happened the suspect and
31:17
there's really no connection To Jason
31:19
or law enforcement. That's maybe why
31:22
Agents are having such a hard time Identifying
31:25
this person. That's one scenario The
31:29
other one which I find very
31:31
interesting is if
31:33
it was connected to law enforcement
31:35
more specifically Jason It
31:38
would be someone who would have to know his
31:41
schedule and more importantly that
31:43
he was working that night and In
31:46
addition to that know what time he's getting
31:48
off work because it's not your standard nine-to-five
31:50
I can tell you firsthand Many
31:52
police officers work, you know eight to
31:54
four four to midnight midnight
31:56
till eight in the morning or they'll do an overlap
31:59
shift where they're working working from 8 p.m. to 2
32:01
a.m. it's all over the place
32:04
it's sporadic sometimes officers will work
32:06
their regular shift and then work a detail
32:08
for a couple hours so unless
32:10
you really know the inner workings of
32:12
that Bartstown Police Department you wouldn't know
32:14
what time Jason was
32:16
getting off okay so if that's
32:19
the case and where to
32:21
believe that there's something in
32:24
the case file that we're not aware of that connects
32:26
Crystal Rogers and Tommy Ballard to
32:29
Jason Ellis I would
32:31
assume that connection is Nick
32:33
Luke because again he was a
32:36
Bartstown police officer and
32:38
although the gun in these two crimes
32:40
might be different I wonder
32:42
if that connection is Nick
32:44
help himself the
32:46
question becomes what was the
32:49
relationship between Nick and Jason prior to
32:51
Jason's murder I don't even know if
32:53
Nick was on the job when Jason
32:56
was there these are all details that
32:58
I don't have access to but investigators
33:00
would and if there was a
33:02
connection there if they did know each other what
33:05
was their relationship like was there animosity
33:07
was there any issues or
33:09
was there something that would correlate
33:12
these two things where you could say yeah
33:14
Nick would have a reason to
33:16
want to take out Jason I don't know again I
33:18
don't know what that reason would be but again
33:22
the people inside that station or the
33:24
people investigating these two cases they
33:26
definitely would now the only thing
33:29
I'll say to that is we have to remember that
33:31
crystal disappeared in 2015 and Tommy was killed
33:33
in 2016 so whatever
33:38
the connection is Jason was murdered
33:40
years before any of that
33:42
happened and I do wonder
33:45
that if while investigators were looking into
33:48
crystal and Tommy's cases they
33:50
started to see some similarities some patterns
33:53
with Jason's case and maybe
33:55
although it was never announced to the public
33:58
there were some internal rumsiness about
34:01
the potential involvement of a colleague,
34:04
right? Why wouldn't law enforcement put
34:06
that information out to everyone
34:08
else? Two reasons. One, it's an
34:10
open investigation. Secondly, think
34:12
about the ramifications. There's
34:14
a possibility that this
34:16
was an inside job, that
34:19
another police officer potentially or could have
34:21
shot Jason. Is that, that's
34:23
on the table? And think about
34:26
the distrust and uneasiness that
34:28
would cause within that community. You
34:30
can't do that. You definitely can't go
34:32
public with that type of information unless
34:35
it's concrete. So that's kind
34:37
of where I stand on this case. And
34:39
to kind of summarize it all, I do
34:41
believe it was a lone gunman, but I
34:43
do reserve the right to change if new
34:45
information that wasn't previously publicized comes out. But
34:47
what we know right now and the fact
34:49
that no one's came forward with this big
34:52
of a reward in this community
34:54
is just, it's crazy to me. And
34:56
it really only leaves a couple of possibilities again,
34:59
it's one or two people and they're just
35:01
really close or it's just one person. And
35:03
unless you catch that individual, they're never gonna
35:05
confess to it. That's to me the most
35:07
likely scenario. And then as
35:09
it relates to Crystal Rogers and Tommy Ballard,
35:12
we know that Brooks and Nick are both in
35:15
a lot of trouble right now. Brooks is in prison.
35:18
Nick has not been arrested for anything yet. But again,
35:20
they already announced that they believe
35:22
charges against him could be coming down
35:24
the road very soon. And
35:26
I wonder once they do, if everything starts to
35:28
come out in the wash, will
35:31
we see some reverse engineering that
35:33
links back to Jason Ellis' case?
35:36
I sure hope so. Not only for
35:38
the Bardstown Police Department, not only
35:40
for the community, but most importantly
35:42
for Jason's family and friends. So
35:45
listen, I really wanna solve this case. I know you
35:48
do as well. So here's a quick recap. On
35:50
May 25th, 2013, Officer
35:52
Jason Ellis was driving home when he
35:55
encountered a pile of tree limbs blocking
35:57
the road on exit 34 of the
35:59
Bluegrass. Parkway in Bardstown, Kentucky.
36:02
While attempting to remove the limbs, he
36:04
was shot several times by a 12-gauge
36:07
shotgun. So if you
36:09
or anybody you know has
36:11
information concerning this case, please
36:14
call 1-800-CALL-FBI and just remember
36:16
there's still a reward available. And
36:18
finally, I want to send my thoughts
36:20
to Amy and Jason's two sons and
36:22
obviously Jason's family and friends. We
36:25
know it's been too long. One day is too
36:27
long. But we want you to continue to
36:29
fight, continue the hope, and as you
36:31
guys said, continue to remember Jason for the man that
36:33
he was. But we're with you.
36:35
We're with you until the end, until Jason
36:37
gets the justice he deserves. Everyone
36:40
be safe out there, and I'll see you soon.
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