In this episode, we talk about design with Lisa Sy, lead product designer at Forem, and Kuan Luo, designer and entrepreneur, who co-founded Elpha, and was formerly at Etsy and Cockroach Labs. Show Notes DevNews (sponsor) CodeNewbie (sponsor) DataStax (sponsor) Cockroach Labs (DevDiscuss) (sponsor) Swimm (DevDiscuss) (sponsor) Stellar (sponsor) Stripe Forem Elpha Cockroach Labs The Washington Post Etsy Little-Known Productivity Tools; Big Productivity Gains Pokémon Photoshop GeoCities Dreamweaver Interaction Design UX Design Product Design Screen Reader Bird by Bird